One month late but: Clan Skryre sells Weapon Team weapons to other clans for precious warpstones manling. You can add weapon teams to Stormvermin. Counter charge or ambush could come in handy on these guys.
Great work! Really enjoy these old world reviews. It's so interesting getting the perspective of someone who clearly has an empire + 40K background and looks at stuff through that lens. I play empire and skaven and the Old World has been ROUGH to by boys/rats. Thank goodness for 6th edition. P.S. whatever you do, don't compare an abomination to a giant spawn. Just don't do it. ❤
Man i play lizardmen and my whole faction has like 5 units I’m envious of all these choices. I just want bow skinks… And bolt throwers that don’t need to be on a dinosaur…
Funny but there it keeps not working 😅 either you don't role the spell or it doesn't go off when you're desperate for it, or he has to hide on the back of the unit to avoid the higher initiative on the charge of some scary melee chap.
Can’t you put the warp-stone armor onto him? Warpstone armor basically says it counts as heavy armor and can be worn by wizards. I’m likely never taking it for the price but still it’s an option
Im crazy biased to the Grey Seer on bell with the storm condenser and the ruby ring. Yes it costs a bomb, but the kill magic is just funny. I do manage to kill the points worth sometimes, but me and my friends play 3k so idk if thats a valid opinion? 😅
@Mordian Glory, please stop putting apostrophes in your plurals-- you do it here with Pros and Cons, and you do it in every live stream with the word Minis 😅 plurals do not use an apostrophe lol
These Old World army composition rules are absolutely nonsensical. And I really don't get why Globadiers need to be limited by your number of Engineers, whereas you not only don't need Moulders to take Rat Ogres and even goddamn Hellpit Abominations, but the moulders aren't even characters anymore.
Warlord is a pass sadly and not for any weaknesses of its own, rather just that it shares a 0-1 per 1k with Greyseers, which, despite their high cost, are auto-include 2 in a 2k games because so much of the army relies on recieving buffs from them. Losing one for a warlord sadly is hard downgrade.
Very disappointing but Clan rats are a pass despite being a requirement. The fact that the best way to field tour required clanrats is 2x20 naked says it all. Weapons teams are only a decent option because they come out of your core, if they were a special option they'd never see the table. It's arguably better to spend the points on giant rat darts and swarms.
Rat Swarms being unbreakable is very valuable, fast(ish) vanguarding skirmishing unbreakable wounds dense... Just low output otherwise brilliant. And you want 3, most things will kill one base in a round, 3 bases though let's them fulfill they sticky roles.
You're very very wrong about rat ogres, Rat ogres are deceptively low durability especially per point cost. They're Frenzied with decent speed so they get baited by anyone even vaguely competent. And they have pitiful output, if they somehow survive getting punched first by whatever chose to charge them (they get baited and counter charger almost without fail) they have sweet sweet strength 5!... But no built in AP, so you're relying on armour bane? How many do you think are going to pop? Not enough to do anything meaningful, and at their cost they have to be your performance unit (you're absolutely right if you're trying to make them work you need 6+, that's a huge cost)
Plague Priest is absolutely great. An amazing combination of a mage and a warrior. With plague censer and Hammerhand he can cause a lot of trouble for enemies. I always put him in an army and I always give him a lvl2 wizard. Screaming Bell may look good, but it's bad. It has the annoying property of ringing out the exact blows you don't need at the moment. HPA's Avalanche of Flesh is a total massacre for infantry with small bases. And Warp Lightning Cannon? Definitely the worst unit in the Skaven army. This thing is useless EVEN if you roll the best dice!!!
I love these Old World series.
you missed the doom wheel XD
Finally man-thing Mordian make-does a video for me-me.
Bois I think 13 Jezzails are absolutely slept on if a Grey Seer nearby takes lore familiar, battle magic, curse of arrow attraction.
One month late but:
Clan Skryre sells Weapon Team weapons to other clans for precious warpstones manling.
You can add weapon teams to Stormvermin. Counter charge or ambush could come in handy on these guys.
Love the format.
Great work! Really enjoy these old world reviews. It's so interesting getting the perspective of someone who clearly has an empire + 40K background and looks at stuff through that lens.
I play empire and skaven and the Old World has been ROUGH to by boys/rats. Thank goodness for 6th edition.
P.S. whatever you do, don't compare an abomination to a giant spawn. Just don't do it. ❤
Man i play lizardmen and my whole faction has like 5 units I’m envious of all these choices. I just want bow skinks… And bolt throwers that don’t need to be on a dinosaur…
Silly option that is potentially stupidly killy, Grey Seer with Illusion and the Fellblade. Getting 2d6 str 6 no save hits is scary
Funny but there it keeps not working 😅 either you don't role the spell or it doesn't go off when you're desperate for it, or he has to hide on the back of the unit to avoid the higher initiative on the charge of some scary melee chap.
@@That_Rat_Bastrdyeah, one of those meme list builds not an actual useful one.
Can’t you put the warp-stone armor onto him?
Warpstone armor basically says it counts as heavy armor and can be worn by wizards.
I’m likely never taking it for the price but still it’s an option
Dark Elves and Chaos dwarfs would be awesome
Wait, are Skaven Slaves not a thing anymore?
Whos going to get shot instead of me-me?
without slaves we are doom doom 😔
Clanrats with zero upgrades are basically the same thing. They're utter trash and very cheap 😅
Thank you for this VID! EPIC!
what are your thoughts on the doom wheel?
Im crazy biased to the Grey Seer on bell with the storm condenser and the ruby ring. Yes it costs a bomb, but the kill magic is just funny. I do manage to kill the points worth sometimes, but me and my friends play 3k so idk if thats a valid opinion? 😅
Skaven girls are always a smash imo
@Mordian Glory, please stop putting apostrophes in your plurals-- you do it here with Pros and Cons, and you do it in every live stream with the word Minis 😅 plurals do not use an apostrophe lol
The fault is not Mordians dear sir, it is I the Editor that must ANSWER! Please LAMBAST me this time
@DeathKorpsOfWrath LAMBAST!
Where is the Doomwheel entry? :D
What do you think of the Doomwheel?
Is the doom wheel not in old world? I didn’t see you say anything about it, great video though
is this official or fanmade?
love the old world stuff keep it up
Chaos warriors please.
Doomwheel??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably doesn't bode well that he forgot it, probably Mordian doesn't like them as did to empire cannons easily
@@OmnisKorrecta 😄😄😄After the review, I went to look at their rules and they are very interesting
Yes-yes, all best units, except me. I best-best. - Any Skaven model
EVERY SKAVEN UNIT
no doomwheel
Interesting
These Old World army composition rules are absolutely nonsensical. And I really don't get why Globadiers need to be limited by your number of Engineers, whereas you not only don't need Moulders to take Rat Ogres and even goddamn Hellpit Abominations, but the moulders aren't even characters anymore.
Yes-yes
Warlord is a pass sadly and not for any weaknesses of its own, rather just that it shares a 0-1 per 1k with Greyseers, which, despite their high cost, are auto-include 2 in a 2k games because so much of the army relies on recieving buffs from them. Losing one for a warlord sadly is hard downgrade.
Very disappointing but Clan rats are a pass despite being a requirement.
The fact that the best way to field tour required clanrats is 2x20 naked says it all.
Weapons teams are only a decent option because they come out of your core, if they were a special option they'd never see the table.
It's arguably better to spend the points on giant rat darts and swarms.
28:37 you do not need a warlock engineer to field weapons teams.
Rat Swarms being unbreakable is very valuable, fast(ish) vanguarding skirmishing unbreakable wounds dense... Just low output otherwise brilliant. And you want 3, most things will kill one base in a round, 3 bases though let's them fulfill they sticky roles.
You're very very wrong about rat ogres, Rat ogres are deceptively low durability especially per point cost.
They're Frenzied with decent speed so they get baited by anyone even vaguely competent.
And they have pitiful output, if they somehow survive getting punched first by whatever chose to charge them (they get baited and counter charger almost without fail) they have sweet sweet strength 5!... But no built in AP, so you're relying on armour bane? How many do you think are going to pop? Not enough to do anything meaningful, and at their cost they have to be your performance unit (you're absolutely right if you're trying to make them work you need 6+, that's a huge cost)
Beware rolling the immune to psychology result on the bell if you run gutter runner, it prevents your evasive fire and flee shenanigans.
Plague Priest is absolutely great. An amazing combination of a mage and a warrior. With plague censer and Hammerhand he can cause a lot of trouble for enemies. I always put him in an army and I always give him a lvl2 wizard. Screaming Bell may look good, but it's bad. It has the annoying property of ringing out the exact blows you don't need at the moment. HPA's Avalanche of Flesh is a total massacre for infantry with small bases. And Warp Lightning Cannon? Definitely the worst unit in the Skaven army. This thing is useless EVEN if you roll the best dice!!!
Globechukkas need str 3
LOL, are you sure you know what "smash or pass" actually means???
Fortificatuons, varoety of missions, objectives, placeable terrain like AoS, SO much more ToW is lacking.