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@@jackson5116 His last name is Zimmerman. He is part Hispanic, but is mostly Caucasian. Get it right, before you act like a victim. Real latinos don't autograph confederate flags and wear confederate shirts. His white privilege helped him get off with murder more than his part "Hispanic" did. Get serious. He is a coward white racist who got preferential treatment, no different than your favorite Proud Boys.
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 It isn’t about where you are at if you are part of the system in there level doesn’t matter where you worked people still know you and listen all judges are on the same side and protect each other all the time
@@michaelbryant9375 b.s. a person can't necessarily just get away with something simply because their dad is some retired magistrate from the other side of the country. Do you have any proof George's father used his "influence"as a retired magistrate to help his son
@Boris Groszek BAHAHAHA!!!! Zimmerman is unemployable, begging for handouts from right wingers till they tire of him and he starts living in a tent under the freeway overpass.
I don’t know if I can feel sympathy for the girl who dates a guy who points a gun in her face that is known world wide for gunning down an innocent teen, and then whines about it to the police. That’s like complaining that standing in a fire is too hot.
I definitely don't feel any kind of sympathy or empathy for those dump heifers. They got exactly what they deserve. It probably turned them on to know he killed a black person.
@@TheSm1thers He didn't attack Zimmerman. Zimmerman harassed and stalked him until he was forced to defend himself. And of course the basically all white jury found Zimmerman not guilty, that's standard for Amerikkka.
Why would anyone have a problem with that? He saved his life with that gun. And everyone with a brain knows that it was self defense so in no way was it ever a "murder weapon".
@@beverlyhurd8556 You know just as well as us all the reason why that gun was purchased at auction. Because it killed a Black boy. You people are sick!
@@twill1076 No, it was because an entrepreneur wanted to own a piece of history. He wanted to own the gun that a brave man used to defend himself with when he was attacked in the dark of night by a racist bloodthirsty savage. Simple as that.
@@oglowkey9532 And why shouldn't he be? What kind of savage monster wants to do harm to a man that did nothing but defend himself? The same kind of savage monster than gives himself a thumbs up maybe??
Welp sucks to suck. Lmao he might have gotten away with it but this man ain’t free. I’m a Floridian and for years this man has been attacked whenever he’s in public. So basically it’s like being in prison
Classic domestic abuse situations. He brandishes a gun and threatens to kill his partners, they reach out to the police for help, he starts stalking as intimidation, they quit working with the police so the abuser will stop harassing them, and he moves onto his next target. He tried that nonsense with men and got shot at by one and put in jail for another. I just hope his next victim stands their ground in the moment.
It's good to know you can get away with murder according to man's law, but what happens when your judged by the ALMIGHTY who has no respect for man's laws?
@@camplo777 That's right. And the _facts_ are that Martin attacked and tried to kill Zimmerman and Zimmerman shot him down for his efforts. God bless him!
Probably for the same reasons all those "good' people who loot and boost from shops, beat up and kill shopkeepers, and take pot shots at the cops aren't hanging from lamp posts all over cities throughout the US. Left fascists haven't broken the rule of law - yet. Pray they never do. it won't end the way they think.
Imagine if Zimmerman had just been shot by officer Paul Fleischman when Fleischman identified himself as a cop to Zimmerman and warned Zimmerman to back off and leave him alone but Zimmerman chose to assault him anyway.
@The Hand And if I remember, the detective even coached Zimmerman on the scream after Zimmerman said it wasn't himself screaming. Zimmerman supporters love to say how Martin's dad didn't believe it was his son screaming but they are always silent on Zimmerman himself saying that it wasn't Zimmerman screaming. You would think that a halfway decent prosecution team would take that and run with it combined with the fact that Zimmerman was so calm right after the shooting (and the fact that a young healthy man is not going to be screaming when he has a gun) and the evidence (Trayvon's lungs developed pneumothorax when he was shot, he couldn't vocalize and that's why the screams ended immediately at the exact instant he was shot) but the two bungling idiots Bernie De La RIonda and John Guy never mentioned it.
@@naitthegr8131 - You have the benefit of time and a wealth of resources, yet nothing has changed for you. Zimmerman heard the voice on the 911 recording and told the detective, "that doesn't sound like me", not "that isn't me". There is nothing unusual about someone hearing their own voice on a recording and thinking it doesn't sound like their own voice. Zimmerman may not be terribly bright, but he also isn't a complete moron. If that was not his voice and he knew it because he knew it was Trayvon's voice, he certainly wouldn't have said that it wasn't his voice - and then kept on insisting it was himself that was screaming. You do not have a grasp on this case, and you display that. Repeatedly.
CNN and MSNBC are twice as Racist they just hide it like yourself. Me? I hate everyone. I would save a Dog in a House Fire before I would a Human especially you.
He should still be in prison! He is a criminal! He has problems. Shooting a child. Those that have stuck by him are now wishing they probably should have left well alone. He's dangerous. I care more for the family of Trayvon Martin. They should have got REAL JUSTICE!
I hope he continues his downward spiral to his destination, for what he did let his sins that he did eat away at his conscience. I don’t wish for his death, I want him to live in agony for his crimes, and when he does perishes god bring what he did like he do for all of us.
@@USUXXSOHARD Will always be mad that this could of been avoided if George simply would not of followed him like the dispatcher told him not to. Then he claims self defense. How about i go after someone and then want to aim self defense. There is no logic in that.
@@lafan2003 nothing george did was legaly deserving of being sucker punched or full mounted. Yes he followed a 17 yearold when he was told not to, but the fact is dispatchers have 0 legal authority, nor did Martin have access to that information. The only reason you heard about this case was because of his age, what they didn't tell you was how big he was, nor did they show photos of him older than 14. Martin was 4 inches taller amd weighted about the same. (Before zimmerman gained stress weight) zimmerman wasnt being malled by some 5'6 130 pound 14 yearold like MOST people think. Martin towered Zimmerman and punched him when he shouldn't have.
@@windoeater1597 Just because something is legal does not automatically make it "wise". Im glad i herd about the case so i know that there is someone out there that wants to play " so called HERO" when he was asked not to follow him so i can avoid him like the plaque. We will just agree to disagree and that is okay. As i stated before do not expect me to feel sorry for George. I feel sorry for Travon :)
If I saw George Zimmerman walking down the road, with his known public history, I would fear for my life, and don’t they say in America you can protect your life with force if you fear for it?
You clearly don't understand the law, nor do you understand the case involving Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. You may only protect your life with deadly force if 1) your fear of death or suffering seriously bodily injury was reasonable, and 2) the actual danger was immanent. Trayvon Martin was not an innocent teen when he beat George Zimmerman and continued beating him even as Zimmerman screamed for help and as an eyewitness yelled he was calling 911. The evidence showed Zimmerman did indeed fear for his life and that the danger was immanent.
@@kjs257incpen3 - Here's a test: Zimmerman was in area A, and Trayvon was in area B (near the "T" sidewalk). Trayvon ran into area C (far away from the "T"), then Zimmerman ran into area B where Trayvon had previously been. When Zimmerman arrived in area B (near the "T"), he was not able to see where Trayvon had run off to and told the dispatcher, "He ran" and then Zimmerman stopped running. Zimmerman continued talking with the dispatcher for nearly 1.5 minutes. 2 minutes after that, the violence started........IN AREA B (AT THE "T"). For those with a functioning brain, do you not see a problem? Please, tell us why Trayvon was "protecting himself" by returning to area B? You will fail this test, I promise.
No murder occurred in this incident. You can look it up. What makes this a sick world is that people believe a murder occurred when there is zero evidence to back that belief up. And worse, there IS evidence that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, this is a sick world.
@@cryptedanimations6509 - You said, *"I could literally take your life away with my bare hands."* What does that have to with anything? Your inability to think?
Too many people hold strong opinions that Zimmerman was guilty when they are not familiar with the actual evidence. That is what is messed up. Here is but one, alarming, example: 8 witnesses to parts of the incident testified for the prosecution and not one credibly contradicted a single element of Zimmerman's version of events. Not a single element. No other witnesses to any part of the incident testified, but if they had, they too would not have contradicted anything.
@@bradlee2594 the fact remains in this country you should have to make sure someone has a weapon before killing them and to instigate violence as well is crazy
@@omarabdulwaleed4383 - This is not a simplistic A+B=C equation. There are many factors - some simple, some not, and all factors when considered indicate Zimmerman did nothing illegal that night. The only person who committed a crime that night was Trayvon Martin, when he violently attacked Zimmerman.
He was arrested tried and found not guilty. He never should have even been arrested in the first place because he was the one that was attacked. All he did was defend himself. And he did it in fine fashion as well. Good job, sir!!
A racist killer and stalker who beats and threatens women's with a gun more than once and is still free in our society, shiezer the privileges are bottomless. Karma has a way of catching up to this special type of human.
Or a police officer who tries to tell Zimmerman to leave him alone or back off. Or a UPS driver (it was said that months before Trayvon, Zimmerman had to be calmed down from going after and confronting a UPS driver) ..or...or...
@@naitthegr8131 - You are wrong. You are very nearly wrong every time you speak on this case. It's astounding. A dispatcher, not a police officer, told Zimmerman "we don't need you to do that", meaning follow Trayvon Martin. After that, Zimmerman stopped. That's what the evidence shows. You are very interested in this case. Why don't you go learn about the actual evidence?
@Brad Fuller so the officer begged zimmerman to put his hands on him after he identified himself as a cop? "im a cop, come at me bro" you and zimmerman are two peas in a pod, youre both idiots
@@tj5579- The correct reason to be pissed off is that a false narrative was sold to the media, and the media perpetuated that false narrative - and people relied and the information they were being told and allowed themselves to become useful idiots. Those people (who should be pissed but aren't) continually perpetuate the same false narrative. In other words, you were duped by people you should expect to be able to trust. You were brainwashed so much so that you refuse to look at the evidence that contradicts you.
How many slap on the wrist can this guy get? Our justice system is a joke. He wasn’t even a cop and he killed Martin as a security guard at most. Idk how this guy is still walking free
Welcome to America.. this is why you gotta learn the system. Because once other people start exploiting it like they do they will eventually change it...
Did all this happen in Florida? If so, Florida is with the BS. Even if the woman tried to take their story back, the state can pick up the charges and move on with prosecution.
@Steve Bishop he doesn’t anymore, no venue wants to host those events. His last one was November 3 , 2021 but it got cancelled by the hotel when they learned he would be there so the event never happened. Since then he has had 0 income
In what way was racism demonstrated in this case? I think it would be much more accurate to say that relying on assertions rather than evidence leads to too many Americans becoming stupid.
He’s a grown man he’s been bullied his whole life he’s waited his whole life to take that anger out on someone u took a innocent 17 year old child’s life and ur out here acting like ur a gangster ur a coward and 1 day u will meet ur maker and there will be no one to save u
He has no conscience, And GOD !! Is Leaving him for Judgement day !! The Devil is waiting on him !! Believe that . He never got away with anything !!!!
@@naithngr81-jh2bb he may be a thug to society. I don’t agree with the DVs on him or what happened to Trevon. But at the same time. Mr Zimmerman is a private US citizen and there’s some people out there who won’t leave him alone.
After killing the poor kid, he continues to make his living off the death of Trayvon Martin. By Selling the gun, and painting pictures and trying to sue the parents. Much evil. Gods vengence is going to fall on him.
Zimmerman shot the 17 year-old Trayvon Martin because Trayvon Martin was beating and would not stop beating Zimmerman, even after an eye-witness came outside, from only 20 feet away, and yelled he was calling 911. Zimmerman, legally, used his gun to defend himself. Zimmerman sold the gun and painted pictures as a way to bring in income (he had little means to make income because he [incorrectly] became the most hated man in America). He sued the parents, along with the attorneys and Rachel Jeantel and Brittany Diamond Eugene, because the evidence was overwhelming they all perpetrated a fraud upon Zimmerman, which is much the reason he became the most hated man in America. Your assignment of evil is misplaced.
@@bradlee2594if you think someone can follow you a few feet away from your home starts a fight with you then blows a hole in your heart and kills you while you are unarmed. If that's tight to you......,then your thinking is sick like a sociopath.
@@ednaedna7725 - I am 100% aligned with you on the idea you cannot follow a few feet away from the guy's home, start a fight and then shoot that guy. Where you and I differ is in our understanding of the evidence in this case. Zimmerman was some 100 feet or more from Martin, who some 400 from the home he was staying at, when Zimmerman followed, and Zimmerman stopped following nearly 400 from that home as Martin disappeared behind a row of homes and continued increasing the distance between himself and Zimmerman while making his way to that home. 3.5 minutes AFTER Zimmerman had stopped, Martin returned and attacked Zimmerman - in the exact same area Zimmerman had previously stopped (400 feet away from the home Trayvon had been running toward). THIS is what the evidence tells us happened. The evidence is plentiful. If I am wrong regarding my understanding of the evidence, then I am wrong, not evil nor sociopathic. You are ignorant of much of the evidence. Because you're ignorant of the evidence, and because you have never been particularly interested in the evidence, you make mistakes such as assigning evil incorrectly.
A better question is why do so many *ignorant* people arrive at such strong opinions about highly controversial matters they know little about? I know the answer: too many people don't understand the extent of their own ignorance, and those people are too stupid and too easily manipulated into becoming *Useful Idiots* who perpetuate falsehoods, avoid truth, and are the significant reason for so much division.
No, he can't be charged in another state. Even if he did though, the outcome would have been the same. The state in which he faced prosecution made nearly zero difference, because the Stand Your Ground law played no relevant part, nor did any difference in laws.
Maybe what the guy did was wrong, I dunno, I wasn't there. But you gotta admit, Zimmerman is always good for a laugh. This guy is always doing something stupid.
My condolences to the family of this guy but at least he's not in jail getting free food with our money that we wake up every morning to work hard for our families. This is the only nation the prisoners vote for president even they don't pay taxes or worked hard to pay their own food for them and families. They receive benefits and federal funds everytime.
"Voting rights retained while in prison for a felony conviction in: Maine, Vermont, and the District of Columbia" 3/50 states "European countries that allow inmates to vote (as of 2012) include Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and Ukraine." Everytime you buy something, you're paying sales tax, and It's the right of every US citizen to vote. Also those prisoners that vote, hey, they still have to pay taxes, follow laws and legistlation made by politicians, who act on a vote, so yeah maybe they're on to something. "The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax." -24th ammendment. Yeah so that's some bullsh!t.
@@mismissy Oh I see. So in your your mind anyway, people that are truthful and honest are nothing but the devil and should be ashamed of themselves, right? Is that what you think? Might be time for you to put the crack pipe down for a while.
I miss the the 1990's when black people pulled clowns like you out your car and curb stomped you during the LA riots. Human trash like you needs a slow speech pattern adjustment.
@The Hand - You don't appear to understand the context in Zimmerman's statement to the dispatcher. You likely also don't understand that 5 seconds after Zimmerman said, "He ran", Zimmerman stopped running. At the point Zimmerman stopped running is where the physical altercation started....... *3.5 minutes later.* When Zimmerman stopped, Martin was long gone, which is why Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "He ran". There was no chase. And the only reasonable conclusion one can make is that Martin returned, which is exactly what Zimmerman indicated in his version of the story. The evidence supported Zimmerman. It did not contradict him.
@The Hand - Unlike most people, I will answer challenging questions. You will need to choose your questions more carefully if you want to truly challenge me though. *Name one piece of evidence that shows Martin ever took one step in Zimmerman's direction.* Approximately 58 seconds into Zimmerman's phone call with the dispatcher, Zimmerman said, "now he's coming towards me". That's evidence that Martin was approaching Zimmerman. 23 seconds later, Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "yup, he's coming to check me out". That's a 2nd piece of evidence. *Zimmerman made the call about Martin. Why?* Because he observed Martin in the yard of someone he knew Martin did not live, and because Martin was behaving oddly in that he was walking in the rain with no apparent purpose and looking at homes. None of that was a crime, and Zimmerman never claimed Martin committed a crime. Zimmerman did exactly as his police-sponsored neighborhood watch training instructed him to do, which was call a non-emergency number anytime he saw something suspicious or saw someone in an area they did not belong. It's no more complicated than that. *Zimmerman chased him. Why?* Zimmerman never chased Martin. To believe he did, you would have to ignore the evidence or be ignorant of it and believe other people who have ignored the evidence or are ignorant of it. *In the walk-through interview, which is recorded, Zimmerman demonstrated that he continued in Martin's direction, armed, for several yards. How does he run for less than 10 seconds and get into a fight three minutes later?* Martin ran South away from the area Zimmerman was in and toward the back entrance, which was coincidently where the house was that Martin was staying at. Both of them lost sight of each other. Zimmerman stated so, and Rachel Jeantel also stated so when she said that Martin had told her, "I'm in the back by daddy's fiance's house." and also, "I lost him". 3.5 minutes after Zimmerman stopped running - and also approximately 3.5 minutes after Martin told Jeantel, "I lost him", the physical attack started in the same area Zimmerman had stopped running in. This is more evidence that Martin must have approached Zimmerman, not the other way around. You have to understand a lot of evidence to understand this clearly. *We are supposed to believe the hothead we hear on the call gave up obediently because the dispatcher said so?* Yes. First, there is nothing "hot-headed" about Zimmerman's interaction with the dispatcher. Mumbling under your breath is the exact opposite of hot headed. Listen to Zimmerman's voice throughout the 4-minute call with dispatcher. He is nothing but calm. To answer your question directly, again, yes we should believe Zimmerman stopped running very shortly after the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that". It's wind noise that lead the dispatcher to conclude Zimmerman was following Martin, and the wind noise stops shortly after Zimmerman was told, "We don't need you to do that". After the wind noise stops, Zimmerman spoke very calmly with the dispatcher, and there is no wind noise for the entire 83 seconds he finished his call after the wind noise stopped. If you would like to challenge anything I've said - or anything else, I'm willing and able to discuss. Also unlike most people, I'm willing to learn things I haven't already learned and change my opinion based on new things I've learned. If you want to ignore what I've said and continue believing what you believe based on assertions others have perpetuated, not based on evidence, you're welcome to do that as well.
@The Hand - I understand long-winded answers, combined with a case involving a mountain of evidence, is difficult to stay on the same page. Perhaps you would be interested in focusing a bit? I too have studied this case, and unlike most people am willing to have my conclusions about the case be scrutinized. Before focusing, I will respond to your comments. Words by a defendant are indeed evidence. They are not necessarily proof of anything though. There is not necessarily anything wrong with Zimmerman providing specific information to the dispatcher and then later adding new information. Certainly, you can guess that he might be lying with the new information. But he also might be telling the truth. To clarify though, Zimmerman never claimed Martin was trespassing. Only when later asked where Martin was when Zimmerman first saw Martin did Zimmerman tell police that Martin was in the yard of a house he knew Martin did not live. The situation was dynamic, and Martin likely stood for seconds at a time and walked at other times. Zimmerman has never been pressed to provide a second-by-second detailed retelling of every move Martin made and did not make. It would be ridiculous to believe Zimmerman - or anyone - could do that. People try to make what Zimmerman saw simplistic when it's not. "Trayvon was doing nothing but walking" is a ridiculous statement people make. That's not to imply Martin was doing anything wrong. Whatever he was doing, Zimmerman found it to be suspicious. There's nothing wrong with that, unless "black = suspicious", which is another ridiculous notion that people apply to Zimmerman. In the re-enactment, Zimmerman did indeed say the dispatcher asked him if he could get to where he could see Martin. And I agree, that did not happen. But it is clear, during the original call with the dispatcher, Zimmerman believed the dispatcher was perfectly agreeable with Zimmerman in keeping an eye on Martin. The dispatcher says at one point, "let me know if he does anything else". In fact, he said it twice. The same circumstance as above applies to Zimmerman's other statements. While on the call, his comments were short and spontaneous. In the re-enactment, his statements were more long-form. There can be no real surprise that his statements don't 100% or even 60% align, even if the statements were 100% honest. I would be happy to discuss any one - or any number of these specific statements in more detail. Yes, Zimmerman admitted to following Martin in his vehicle. Not a crime though, and he believed, rightly or wrongly, the dispatcher was OK with him keeping an eye on Martin. When Zimmerman says Martin is running and Zimmerman follows, for the 2nd time, and you concluded that was "factually" a chase, you are ignoring a truckload of evidence that provides a lot more understanding. Where Martin was and where Zimmerman was at the point Martin started running is important. Do you have any idea? I do. Lots of evidence tells us very approximately where. The evidence tells us Martin might well have been out of Zimmerman's view while Zimmerman was still inside his vehicle more than 100 feet away. Maybe 200 feet way. The evidence tells us that Zimmerman did not start running until 14 seconds after Martin started running. If we do the math, Martin was at least 100 feet and another 14 seconds ahead of Zimmerman by the time Zimmerman started running. And for most of those 14 seconds, Zimmerman did not know where Martin was. So Zimmerman's reaction to run, as he later explained and is also supported by the evidence, was to get to an area where he could regain sight of Martin. The evidence tells us that Zimmerman ran for no more than 23 seconds. Based on where Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and the direction he headed, we can make very decent guesses as to where he was when he stopped running. And we can also guess that Martin was very close to the back of the house he was staying at, based on all of this evidence. This "chase" narrative is exactly that. It's a narrative based on little evidence and a lot of ignoring of a lot of other evidence. I can break this down in another post if interested. You are correct, there is no evidence that Martin ever returned to the house. I never said he did though. I repeated what Jeantel said Martin told her. And based on the evidence of where Martin started running, combined with Jeantel saying Martin said, "in the back by my daddy's fiance's house", and Martin had enough time to crawl to the house, and it was Martin's intent to go home to watch the NBA all-star game, there is every reason to believe Martin either made it to the back door (or even the front door). Regardless, one must wonder why Martin returned to where he started running from, if not to specifically confront Zimmerman? "Trayvon had a right to be where Zimmerman was", while 100% true, is not a valid answer. Your characterization of Zimmerman "hissing" profanity is a bit overly dramatic. He said under his breath, "effing punks". He said nothing else even close to similar while running. Not exactly a profanity-laced enraged hot-headed meltdown as you want us to believe. Your "It is documented" and "you don't get deny facts" comments were funny though. Feel free to respond to anything or nothing. But can I request you pick one thing - anything - to debate or a single challenge question, then we'll get into it and see which of us understands the case - or at least that one point. Or may I challenge you on something/anything?
@The Hand - You said, again, *"there are no statements given by RJ (Rachel Jeantel) stating that Martin had returned to his father's girlfriend's house."* Why repeat this? I agreed with you the first time. I will say it again. Jeantel never stated Martin went to the house. I agree. I further explained why I believe Martin did go to the house. I may indeed be wrong about that, but nothing I said about it was unreasonable and certainly not dishonest. You don't appear to know the case anywhere near as well as you think you do. If you did, you would debate what I said and attempt to prove it wrong instead of simply asserting that I am dishonest and also reasserting your statement, implying I disagreed with a fact when I didn't. You said, *I thought the freedom of Martin to move about would be conceded..."* I did concede that. You seem to have a comprehension issue. You added, *"but you want to perform time calculations so that you can lock down his whereabouts to further your argument."* Well, yeah. The timeline helps us connect dots. Other evidence does too. You seem to favor ignorance. I do not. You said, *"The only evidence of Martin's location is the surveillance camera at the store where he bought the candy and the location of his body. His movements are not known."* You're dead wrong. If you actually studied the case and paid attention, you would know this. If you were interested in learning, you could. Or am I giving you too much credit? You said, *"You have conceded that he was followed. We know GZ was armed. Martin was within his rights to defend himself upon fear for his life. "* The first two statements are true. The last is ridiculous. While Martin would have been within his rights to defend himself had he been in fear of his life, there is ZERO evidence that he was in fear of his life. Martin did not know Zimmerman was armed until the moment before he was shot, while still in the act of attacking Zimmerman. You said, *"The shooter lied about instructions from dispatch and his credibility is in question."* There's no proof he lied. You "think" he lied. Your view of the entire case is based more on ignorance than evidence, and because of it you "feel" rather than know. You said, *"As I said, there is zero evidence Martin took one step in Zimmerman's direction."* Look again. If you hadn't ignored my answer to you previously, you would know there is evidence Martin came toward Zimmerman. Again, Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "Now he's coming towards me" and also, "yup, he's coming to check me out". I even provided timestamps in the recorded call. But you're not interested in the timeline...... or evidence. You said, *"Rather, the evidence shows that every step Zimmerman took was toward an unarmed teenager who had committed no crime."* You are simply wrong. You have no idea what steps Zimmerman took during the 3.5 minutes after Zimmerman had stopped running. The evidence indicates he was not walking South toward where Martin ran. You have no real understanding of anything. And you have no desire to remedy your predicament.
So essentially, the system will keep this guy out of jail no matter what he does. He’s a hero to them. There will protect him at all cost.
that's Hispanic privilege for you. If I do it, I'd be in jail the rest of my life...
@@jackson5116 df?🙄
Jackson facts
It was self defense
@@jackson5116 His last name is Zimmerman. He is part Hispanic, but is mostly Caucasian. Get it right, before you act like a victim.
Real latinos don't autograph confederate flags and wear confederate shirts. His white privilege helped him get off with murder more than his part "Hispanic" did.
Get serious. He is a coward white racist who got preferential treatment, no different than your favorite Proud Boys.
The fact that he is still alive is more sickening than anything
Oh wow. Your just as bad as him
@@carrtex Oh please at this point he deserves anything that comes to him
@@Lee-Tea ok sicko
@@Lee-Tea you're right
@@carrtex no you’re just as bad as him for thinking he deserves life, let alone being free.
His dad is a retired judge that's why he gets away with all of his crimes
Ooooooooooooooooooooh- this makes a lot more sense now 💩
His dad is a retired magistrate from Virginia. Why would he have any sway in Florida
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 It isn’t about where you are at if you are part of the system in there level doesn’t matter where you worked people still know you and listen all judges are on the same side and protect each other all the time
@@michaelbryant9375 b.s. a person can't necessarily just get away with something simply because their dad is some retired magistrate from the other side of the country. Do you have any proof George's father used his "influence"as a retired magistrate to help his son
@@michaelbryant9375 his dad wasn't part of the system, and his dad wasn't on their level
He auctioned off the gun that he’s used to kill Trayvon Martin. That’s pretty evil
No
I'll bet you that gum is cursed.
Whats worse is the the sick person who wanted to buy it, this world is evil
It's history @@larrylias3667
I’ve learned to sit back and watch life. The same thing that makes you laugh will eventually make you cry
Blows my mind that people supported this guy, that aged well didn’t it
@Boris Groszek get back to your nerd activities boy
@Boris Groszek BAHAHAHA!!!! Zimmerman is unemployable, begging for handouts from right wingers till they tire of him and he starts living in a tent under the freeway overpass.
@Groszek y’all probably haven’t heard what he’s done recently then.
Yeah a Mexican Racist, the Hypocrisy 😅🤣🤣
@Groszek Yeah, hopefully he kills everyone you love.
I don’t know if I can feel sympathy for the girl who dates a guy who points a gun in her face that is known world wide for gunning down an innocent teen, and then whines about it to the police. That’s like complaining that standing in a fire is too hot.
I definitely don't feel any kind of sympathy or empathy for those dump heifers. They got exactly what they deserve. It probably turned them on to know he killed a black person.
😂
Not an innocent teen, he was proven by the forensic analysis to have been on top of Zimmerman when the shooting took place. Self-defence is a thing.
Is it that Zimmerman did these things or is it that those women ended up being like the guy that tried to shoot him in his car?
@@TheSm1thers He didn't attack Zimmerman. Zimmerman harassed and stalked him until he was forced to defend himself. And of course the basically all white jury found Zimmerman not guilty, that's standard for Amerikkka.
Am still stuck on him listing the murder weapon and someone buying it. We live in a sick sick world
Why would anyone have a problem with that? He saved his life with that gun. And everyone with a brain knows that it was self defense so in no way was it ever a "murder weapon".
@@beverlyhurd8556 You know just as well as us all the reason why that gun was purchased at auction. Because it killed a Black boy. You people are sick!
@@twill1076 No, it was because an entrepreneur wanted to own a piece of history. He wanted to own the gun that a brave man used to defend himself with when he was attacked in the dark of night by a racist bloodthirsty savage. Simple as that.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Zimmerman started it
@@beverlyhurd8556 It wasn’t self defense dummy
This will not end well for Mr Zimmerman, as he will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.
For what? Yet another savage racist to attack him? I doubt it. He still carries a gun I'm sure.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just hush at this point
It’s been 10+ years and he’s still alive sadly
@@oglowkey9532 And why shouldn't he be? What kind of savage monster wants to do harm to a man that did nothing but defend himself? The same kind of savage monster than gives himself a thumbs up maybe??
@@beverlyhurd8556 he followed and KILLED 17 YR OLD KID AFTER POLICE TOLD HIM NOT TO FOLLOW HIM N GOT FOUND NOT GUILTY HOW IS THAT DEFENDING YOUR SELF
Blows my mind why any woman would date this guy...
Some women like men with steady jobs who defend their communities.
Some women loves jerks.
@dr cruel lol coward just like him
@@DrCruel “some women like racist, hateful men, who’s also happen to be murderers with steady jobs”
@@angelwut469 That's why so many male apparatchiks in socialist countries have wives and mistresses.
this man literally is using get out of jail free cards
Welp sucks to suck. Lmao he might have gotten away with it but this man ain’t free. I’m a Floridian and for years this man has been attacked whenever he’s in public. So basically it’s like being in prison
Classic domestic abuse situations. He brandishes a gun and threatens to kill his partners, they reach out to the police for help, he starts stalking as intimidation, they quit working with the police so the abuser will stop harassing them, and he moves onto his next target. He tried that nonsense with men and got shot at by one and put in jail for another. I just hope his next victim stands their ground in the moment.
Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman, not the other way around
@@gholland5840 who’s talking about Trayvon Martin?
@@gholland5840 Who is this, somebody related to Jan Holland aka "Fabrications, enhancements"??? LMFAO
@@naitthegr8131 becayse everyoke with the holland surname is related. You are very smart.
@@gholland5840 That isn’t what happened dummy quit spreading false information
It's good to know you can get away with murder according to man's law, but what happens when your judged by the ALMIGHTY who has no respect for man's laws?
What kind of stupid does it take to think that defending yourself from a bloodthirsty savage racist attacker is murder??
@@beverlyhurd8556 facts
@@camplo777 That's right. And the _facts_ are that Martin attacked and tried to kill Zimmerman and Zimmerman shot him down for his efforts. God bless him!
@@beverlyhurd8556 Martin didn’t try to kill Zimmerman dummy quit spreading false information
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just hush at this point please
How is this evil person still walking ? Streets are done.
He is not walking. Wonderful Mr. Zimmerman put that animal down.
Probably for the same reasons all those "good' people who loot and boost from shops, beat up and kill shopkeepers, and take pot shots at the cops aren't hanging from lamp posts all over cities throughout the US.
Left fascists haven't broken the rule of law - yet. Pray they never do. it won't end the way they think.
At this point, I bet he longs for death.
Streets are soft in FL.
Nah frfr. Jay z was right bruh. But most of them ready to do it to each other.
Sad. The officers need to be investigated as does his father. Something is going on.
This man have 9 lives dude. 🤦🏿♂️
Imagine if Zimmerman had just been shot by officer Paul Fleischman when Fleischman identified himself as a cop to Zimmerman and warned Zimmerman to back off and leave him alone but Zimmerman chose to assault him anyway.
@@naitthegr8131 - What point are you trying to make? This shouldn't be such a challenging question, but somehow it probably is for you?
@The Hand And if I remember, the detective even coached Zimmerman on the scream after Zimmerman said it wasn't himself screaming. Zimmerman supporters love to say how Martin's dad didn't believe it was his son screaming but they are always silent on Zimmerman himself saying that it wasn't Zimmerman screaming. You would think that a halfway decent prosecution team would take that and run with it combined with the fact that Zimmerman was so calm right after the shooting (and the fact that a young healthy man is not going to be screaming when he has a gun) and the evidence (Trayvon's lungs developed pneumothorax when he was shot, he couldn't vocalize and that's why the screams ended immediately at the exact instant he was shot) but the two bungling idiots Bernie De La RIonda and John Guy never mentioned it.
@The Hand "he is pursuing a child" and Zimmerman did refer to Trayvon as such on the tape where he said he didn't know "where this kid is"
@@naitthegr8131 - You have the benefit of time and a wealth of resources, yet nothing has changed for you. Zimmerman heard the voice on the 911 recording and told the detective, "that doesn't sound like me", not "that isn't me". There is nothing unusual about someone hearing their own voice on a recording and thinking it doesn't sound like their own voice. Zimmerman may not be terribly bright, but he also isn't a complete moron. If that was not his voice and he knew it because he knew it was Trayvon's voice, he certainly wouldn't have said that it wasn't his voice - and then kept on insisting it was himself that was screaming. You do not have a grasp on this case, and you display that. Repeatedly.
He’s probably working for Fox News.
CNN and MSNBC are twice as Racist they just hide it like yourself. Me? I hate everyone. I would save a Dog in a House Fire before I would a Human especially you.
And if he is
this isn't something that has to do with politics wtf
I bet he is.
@@Martianig it has everything to do with politics when republicans started defending him
He should still be in prison! He is a criminal! He has problems. Shooting a child. Those that have stuck by him are now wishing they probably should have left well alone. He's dangerous. I care more for the family of Trayvon Martin. They should have got REAL JUSTICE!
He will never live in peace because of the guilt he carries! He wants to be incarcerated.
So basically he prints out photos and pretends he paints them...
I hope he continues his downward spiral to his destination, for what he did let his sins that he did eat away at his conscience. I don’t wish for his death, I want him to live in agony for his crimes, and when he does perishes god bring what he did like he do for all of us.
With Trayvon’s blood on hands then he’s going to suffer for the rest of his life!
@@jahvohnymcintosh self defense
This guy Zimmerman is a real thug, I have a feeling he doesn’t have much longer
I'm surprised that he lasted this long.
@@Junkman2008 Everyone not super stupid knows that it was self defense. Everyone not a total moron knows this.
@@beverlyhurd8556 all these acts are not “self defense” dude put hands on his wife and you’re defending him. Shows what type of person you are…
@@beverlyhurd8556 It wasn’t self defense dummy
@@kjs257incpen3 I see you got of jail again. Pity.
I dont feel sorry for him one bit.
Lol still mad
@@USUXXSOHARD
Will always be mad that this could of been avoided if George simply would not of followed him like the dispatcher told him not to. Then he claims self defense. How about i go after someone and then want to aim self defense. There is no logic in that.
@@lafan2003 nothing george did was legaly deserving of being sucker punched or full mounted. Yes he followed a 17 yearold when he was told not to, but the fact is dispatchers have 0 legal authority, nor did Martin have access to that information. The only reason you heard about this case was because of his age, what they didn't tell you was how big he was, nor did they show photos of him older than 14. Martin was 4 inches taller amd weighted about the same. (Before zimmerman gained stress weight) zimmerman wasnt being malled by some 5'6 130 pound 14 yearold like MOST people think. Martin towered Zimmerman and punched him when he shouldn't have.
@@windoeater1597
Just because something is legal does not automatically make it "wise". Im glad i herd about the case so i know that there is someone out there that wants to play " so called HERO" when he was asked not to follow him so i can avoid him like the plaque. We will just agree to disagree and that is okay. As i stated before do not expect me to feel sorry for George. I feel sorry for Travon :)
@@USUXXSOHARD
Not as mad as you clowns who voted for Cheeto Jesus. HE LOST! 😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆😂😆😂🤣😆😂😆
If I saw George Zimmerman walking down the road, with his known public history, I would fear for my life, and don’t they say in America you can protect your life with force if you fear for it?
You clearly don't understand the law, nor do you understand the case involving Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. You may only protect your life with deadly force if 1) your fear of death or suffering seriously bodily injury was reasonable, and 2) the actual danger was immanent. Trayvon Martin was not an innocent teen when he beat George Zimmerman and continued beating him even as Zimmerman screamed for help and as an eyewitness yelled he was calling 911. The evidence showed Zimmerman did indeed fear for his life and that the danger was immanent.
@SoRaya | 2winMom😇 - Simpleton explanation. Idiotic, in fact. Because it's simply wrong. Learn the evidence.
@@bradlee2594Just hush at this point please
@@bradlee2594Trayvon was protecting himself doofus Zimmerman started it
@@kjs257incpen3 - Here's a test: Zimmerman was in area A, and Trayvon was in area B (near the "T" sidewalk). Trayvon ran into area C (far away from the "T"), then Zimmerman ran into area B where Trayvon had previously been. When Zimmerman arrived in area B (near the "T"), he was not able to see where Trayvon had run off to and told the dispatcher, "He ran" and then Zimmerman stopped running. Zimmerman continued talking with the dispatcher for nearly 1.5 minutes. 2 minutes after that, the violence started........IN AREA B (AT THE "T"). For those with a functioning brain, do you not see a problem? Please, tell us why Trayvon was "protecting himself" by returning to area B?
You will fail this test, I promise.
Murders someone and gets cash for it, this is a Sick world
No murder occurred in this incident. You can look it up. What makes this a sick world is that people believe a murder occurred when there is zero evidence to back that belief up. And worse, there IS evidence that Zimmerman was innocent. Yes, this is a sick world.
@@bradlee2594 I could literally take your life away with my bare hands
@@cryptedanimations6509 - You said, *"I could literally take your life away with my bare hands."*
What does that have to with anything? Your inability to think?
I’m still wondering why it was not kept As evidence?!
The fact that he was found not guilty is wild to this day it shows how messed up our system is
Too many people hold strong opinions that Zimmerman was guilty when they are not familiar with the actual evidence. That is what is messed up.
Here is but one, alarming, example: 8 witnesses to parts of the incident testified for the prosecution and not one credibly contradicted a single element of Zimmerman's version of events. Not a single element. No other witnesses to any part of the incident testified, but if they had, they too would not have contradicted anything.
@@bradlee2594 the fact remains in this country you should have to make sure someone has a weapon before killing them and to instigate violence as well is crazy
@@omarabdulwaleed4383 - I don't know what you're saying. Perhaps you can restate?
@@bradlee2594 Trayvon did not have a weapon and Zimmerman instigated the altercation that led to him shooting martin
@@omarabdulwaleed4383 - This is not a simplistic A+B=C equation. There are many factors - some simple, some not, and all factors when considered indicate Zimmerman did nothing illegal that night. The only person who committed a crime that night was Trayvon Martin, when he violently attacked Zimmerman.
isnt his dad like a judge or something? is THAT why he hasn't been arrested? bs
He was arrested tried and found not guilty. He never should have even been arrested in the first place because he was the one that was attacked. All he did was defend himself. And he did it in fine fashion as well. Good job, sir!!
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just hush at this point please
@@beverlyhurd8556 He didn’t defend himself dummy
@@kjs257incpen3No
His dad is a majostrate in a different state. It doesn't mean anything.
I wonder why Zimmerman is so troubled and kept out of jail? He will self destruct sooner than we think. Parents perhaps afraid of him 😆
Black ppl are afraid of him
@@NevaSellmySoul Florida is soft
talk about a pattern of behavior!
@@hupsizan5264black people*
We have a warrant for his arrest here in Africa once he lands in Africa we will immediately book him
A racist killer and stalker who beats and threatens women's with a gun more than once and is still free in our society, shiezer the privileges are bottomless. Karma has a way of catching up to this special type of human.
Karma really trying here but somehow not succeeding…. Maybe she has something bigger in store for him 😊
I bet the woman said give up guns there bad but yet allow Alec Baldwin type people to have them lil confused
They recant because they are scared.
Can't flim flam the zim zam
He thinks he can't be touched but guess what The Most High will have the last say so
Amen
Ase
Seems like a fine up standing citizen to me... as long as you are not a woman or black...or the parent of a woman...or...or...
Or a police officer who tries to tell Zimmerman to leave him alone or back off. Or a UPS driver (it was said that months before Trayvon, Zimmerman had to be calmed down from going after and confronting a UPS driver) ..or...or...
@@naitthegr8131 - You are wrong. You are very nearly wrong every time you speak on this case. It's astounding. A dispatcher, not a police officer, told Zimmerman "we don't need you to do that", meaning follow Trayvon Martin. After that, Zimmerman stopped. That's what the evidence shows. You are very interested in this case. Why don't you go learn about the actual evidence?
@@bradlee2594 Projection much, bradly?
@@bradlee2594 projection much, little bradly?
@Brad Fuller so the officer begged zimmerman to put his hands on him after he identified himself as a cop? "im a cop, come at me bro" you and zimmerman are two peas in a pod, youre both idiots
Why does this man keep escaping jail? Is it because of who his father is?
This guy has got Insane anger issues
I remember being a teen pissed off reading articles at 4am about trayvon martin and other people. He will get his judgement soon.
And you've learned nothing since? You should research a bit. You might find out you were pissed off for the wrong reasons.
@@bradlee2594Enlighten us with the so called "right reasons" then
@@tj5579- The correct reason to be pissed off is that a false narrative was sold to the media, and the media perpetuated that false narrative - and people relied and the information they were being told and allowed themselves to become useful idiots. Those people (who should be pissed but aren't) continually perpetuate the same false narrative. In other words, you were duped by people you should expect to be able to trust. You were brainwashed so much so that you refuse to look at the evidence that contradicts you.
Some brilliant women here…
"Hey girls, lets hook up with a fat ugly guy with a history of abuse and aggression with people he knows, strangers, and even his own family!!! "
This still pisses me off.
All we need is a predator sting operation to finally take him in. Or a drug dealing sting.
How many slap on the wrist can this guy get? Our justice system is a joke. He wasn’t even a cop and he killed Martin as a security guard at most. Idk how this guy is still walking free
Ignorance can be remedied.
Welcome to America.. this is why you gotta learn the system. Because once other people start exploiting it like they do they will eventually change it...
seems like he is living a horrible life
Hopefully.
Hope it’s getting worse
This what happens when you get with murder. So he feel like he's bigger than life... or they made him feel big
Did all this happen in Florida? If so, Florida is with the BS. Even if the woman tried to take their story back, the state can pick up the charges and move on with prosecution.
Murder was the case that they gave me....*Snoop Dogg*
it seems they want to keep him out of the press. I heard no one will hire him
My heart bleeds for him. Pathetic.
@@josephconner3742 he doesn’t deserve work, this guy Zimmerman is a thug domestic abuse as well
@@uvirex5293 he should join Kyle Rittenhouse on the crybaby victims tour. LOL
@@josephconner3742 2 for 1 special 😂😂
@Steve Bishop he doesn’t anymore, no venue wants to host those events. His last one was November 3 , 2021 but it got cancelled by the hotel when they learned he would be there so the event never happened. Since then he has had 0 income
How did they not see this coming.....🙄...the racism in America makes some Americans stupid
In what way was racism demonstrated in this case? I think it would be much more accurate to say that relying on assertions rather than evidence leads to too many Americans becoming stupid.
One day dude…
US is sickkk y'allll
I won't deny there are some awful people out there but the USA in whole isn't sick
EVIL !!!!!!!
Yes he was. But Mr Zimmerman took care of that evil monster. God bless him for what he did.
@@beverlyhurd8556 JUST SAY YOU’RE RACIST AND GO ON
@@beverlyhurd8556 Karma’s gonna catch up to ya
@@kjs257incpen3 Go away you hate filled racist. Go away and stay away.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Make me go away
He’s a grown man he’s been bullied his whole life he’s waited his whole life to take that anger out on someone u took a innocent 17 year old child’s life and ur out here acting like ur a gangster ur a coward and 1 day u will meet ur maker and there will be no one to save u
Trayvon attacked zimmerman. How is that innocent?
@@alfredorodriguezdc no he didint bro u must hape black ppl
13 50
Happy birthday Trayvon Martin
He’s like OJ Simpson; doing just fine. 👍
You kiss my LL arge Bag of Diamond Black Walnuts!!! 👎🏾🖕🏾🖕🏾👎🏾🖕🏾😂😂😂
OJ Simpson was a murderer though. Zimmerman was self defense.
Doubtful. Zimmerman has a target on his back. No one in their right mind is wishing him well
Zimmerman is broke too lol
@@uvirex5293 Not anymore. I bought enough of his paintings to keep him on his feet for awhile.
what a winner.
Gee we couldn’t see this coming
He has no conscience, And GOD !! Is Leaving him for Judgement day !! The Devil is waiting on him !! Believe that . He never got away with anything !!!!
IDC where he’s at. Life goes on.
the streets should care where he at. idc if he get beaten up or smoked. i'd rather him get smoked tho.
@@brewlitesis9060 That POS isn’t worth your freedom.
@@michelewilson4236 true
@@brewlitesis9060 You support indiscriminate murder of anyone you disagree with. You are vile
@@brewlitesis9060 just like he did with that black thief.
Menace to Society
Society is a menace too.
RODDY GET AT ME I MIGHT JUST NEED ATTORNEY FEES BRO
You know you're supposed to try art before you commit horrible crimes, right?
I think george zimmerman is a good man
@Steve Bishop yer wrong about that, I'd rather smoke a doob with him
@Steve Bishop Seriously if it was not for that man idk where I'd be in life or what kind of man I would be today.
I think your mother is a good man
@@jimbobfisher8904 Thats funny cuz me and george zimmerman ran a train on your mother the other night.
George Zimmerman is a _wonderful_ man!! ✝
Stop Harassing Mr Zimmerman and let the man live his life
Tell Zimmerman to stop being a real thug to society.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb he may be a thug to society. I don’t agree with the DVs on him or what happened to Trevon. But at the same time. Mr Zimmerman is a private US citizen and there’s some people out there who won’t leave him alone.
@@JDGrawe0221Just hush at this point please
@@JDGrawe0221Tell Zimmerman to leave random strangers alone
@@JDGrawe0221Zimmerman should’ve left Trayvon alone
America your system is broken 😂
if they had kids they would have scales, hooves and horns.
not everyone should have a gun
Once a thug, always a thug.
Where's the guy who crippled Governor Wallace when you need him?
Wtfk so he did all this and never got Locked up , Somebody helping on the inside forsure
So what fool thinks we should lock people up for defending themselves???
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just hush at this point please
Come on out Zimmerman ain't nobody going to do anything to you we just want to talk to you.
Whatttt in the fucc he’s raining 🌧 havoc
America's beloved!
After killing the poor kid, he continues to make his living off the death of Trayvon Martin. By Selling the gun, and painting pictures and trying to sue the parents. Much evil. Gods vengence is going to fall on him.
Zimmerman shot the 17 year-old Trayvon Martin because Trayvon Martin was beating and would not stop beating Zimmerman, even after an eye-witness came outside, from only 20 feet away, and yelled he was calling 911. Zimmerman, legally, used his gun to defend himself. Zimmerman sold the gun and painted pictures as a way to bring in income (he had little means to make income because he [incorrectly] became the most hated man in America). He sued the parents, along with the attorneys and Rachel Jeantel and Brittany Diamond Eugene, because the evidence was overwhelming they all perpetrated a fraud upon Zimmerman, which is much the reason he became the most hated man in America. Your assignment of evil is misplaced.
@@bradlee2594if you think someone can follow you a few feet away from your home starts a fight with you then blows a hole in your heart and kills you while you are unarmed. If that's tight to you......,then your thinking is sick like a sociopath.
@@ednaedna7725 - I am 100% aligned with you on the idea you cannot follow a few feet away from the guy's home, start a fight and then shoot that guy. Where you and I differ is in our understanding of the evidence in this case. Zimmerman was some 100 feet or more from Martin, who some 400 from the home he was staying at, when Zimmerman followed, and Zimmerman stopped following nearly 400 from that home as Martin disappeared behind a row of homes and continued increasing the distance between himself and Zimmerman while making his way to that home.
3.5 minutes AFTER Zimmerman had stopped, Martin returned and attacked Zimmerman - in the exact same area Zimmerman had previously stopped (400 feet away from the home Trayvon had been running toward). THIS is what the evidence tells us happened. The evidence is plentiful. If I am wrong regarding my understanding of the evidence, then I am wrong, not evil nor sociopathic.
You are ignorant of much of the evidence. Because you're ignorant of the evidence, and because you have never been particularly interested in the evidence, you make mistakes such as assigning evil incorrectly.
@@bradlee2594Just hush at this point
After I watch ‘origin’ movie, I’m coming here to comment.
Either he is rich or he is linked to one of the politicians.
Schizophrenia
Dosen't answer the question...??
How isn’t this man hunted down by any living being at this point?
A better question is why do so many *ignorant* people arrive at such strong opinions about highly controversial matters they know little about? I know the answer: too many people don't understand the extent of their own ignorance, and those people are too stupid and too easily manipulated into becoming *Useful Idiots* who perpetuate falsehoods, avoid truth, and are the significant reason for so much division.
He needs to have his concealed weapon license taken away.
Why?
@@beverlyhurd8556 take his meat out your mouth 🤣🤣
Wicked SAVAGE!
Who's paying for their recants
Can he be charged in a different state? I feel like it would be a very different outcome
No, he can't be charged in another state. Even if he did though, the outcome would have been the same. The state in which he faced prosecution made nearly zero difference, because the Stand Your Ground law played no relevant part, nor did any difference in laws.
@@bradlee2594 Just hush at this point please
@@kjs257incpen3 - Just get an education at this point, please.
@@bradlee2594 I am educated so hush
@@bradlee2594 For the millionth time hush
He has diabetes. Not talking smack, but he does. I mean maybe he might beat maybe not. I don't know I'm not him
What point are you trying to make😭
Charged with stalking a private investigator who was stalking him??? That is the dumbest charge ever. Private investigators are literally stalkers.
So Martin was a PI when he was stalking Zimmerman? I did not know that. Wow.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just hush at this point please
They are trying to set him up left and right
dislike
This pig has retribution pay day set can't wait to see it + its set
He lives in Vermont but people do not seem to like him. Those racist have a little class and swag....he has zero to offer
Why are you doxxing him? I'm reporting your account for insighting violence.
HIT SOON 4 SURE
He is SICKENING... PERIOD ‼️
Maybe what the guy did was wrong, I dunno, I wasn't there. But you gotta admit, Zimmerman is always good for a laugh. This guy is always doing something stupid.
Zimmerman was assaulted and protected himself. Remember the testimony of his neighbor?
Protect the Z man at all costs!
George is an American hero 😂
My condolences to the family of this guy but at least he's not in jail getting free food with our money that we wake up every morning to work hard for our families. This is the only nation the prisoners vote for president even they don't pay taxes or worked hard to pay their own food for them and families. They receive benefits and federal funds everytime.
"Voting rights retained while in prison for a felony conviction in: Maine, Vermont, and the District of Columbia" 3/50 states
"European countries that allow inmates to vote (as of 2012) include Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and Ukraine."
Everytime you buy something, you're paying sales tax, and It's the right of every US citizen to vote. Also those prisoners that vote, hey, they still have to pay taxes, follow laws and legistlation made by politicians, who act on a vote, so yeah maybe they're on to something.
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or
other election for President or Vice President, for electors for
President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in
Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any
state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax." -24th ammendment.
Yeah so that's some bullsh!t.
True! the best Prison sentence for guys like this is to be a nobody who's shunned by society.
Prison sucks.
@@MakoSucks yeah I'm sure that the prisoners say well I may have gotten raped up the butt last night but at least I can vote
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 true! Anyone thinks that Prison is anything but what the title states is a misinformed fool.
And when the world needed him most….he vanished
God bless George Zimmerman! Oh, but I wish so much there were a few more million just like him!! 👍
We know what "god" you worship devil
@@mismissy Um...what? What god you worship devil? And that means what? Do you even know? Goodness. Get sober.
@@beverlyhurd8556 it means you are a devil and you should be ashamed of yourself.
@@beverlyhurd8556 RACIST
@@mismissy Oh I see. So in your your mind anyway, people that are truthful and honest are nothing but the devil and should be ashamed of themselves, right? Is that what you think? Might be time for you to put the crack pipe down for a while.
I miss the 1800s when this was normal behavior. Zimmerman saw a problem and decided to fix it.
tf? what problem lol
it would be a dude named robert
I wonder what that problem your referring to is and I wonder why you mentioned the 1800s? Definitely not a dog whistle totally not…
Kinda dumb you posted this with your name and face on your account 😂.
I miss the the 1990's when black people pulled clowns like you out your car and curb stomped you during the LA riots. Human trash like you needs a slow speech pattern adjustment.
Zimmerman was attacked and defended himself from a violent thug, it doesn't matter if he's a likeable guy or not, justice was served, end of story.
I guess y’all haven’t heard about anything that he did afterwards and the fact that he bragged about his achievements. Basically a one hit wonder.
@The Hand - You don't appear to understand the context in Zimmerman's statement to the dispatcher. You likely also don't understand that 5 seconds after Zimmerman said, "He ran", Zimmerman stopped running. At the point Zimmerman stopped running is where the physical altercation started....... *3.5 minutes later.* When Zimmerman stopped, Martin was long gone, which is why Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "He ran". There was no chase. And the only reasonable conclusion one can make is that Martin returned, which is exactly what Zimmerman indicated in his version of the story. The evidence supported Zimmerman. It did not contradict him.
@The Hand - Unlike most people, I will answer challenging questions. You will need to choose your questions more carefully if you want to truly challenge me though.
*Name one piece of evidence that shows Martin ever took one step in Zimmerman's direction.* Approximately 58 seconds into Zimmerman's phone call with the dispatcher, Zimmerman said, "now he's coming towards me". That's evidence that Martin was approaching Zimmerman. 23 seconds later, Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "yup, he's coming to check me out". That's a 2nd piece of evidence.
*Zimmerman made the call about Martin. Why?* Because he observed Martin in the yard of someone he knew Martin did not live, and because Martin was behaving oddly in that he was walking in the rain with no apparent purpose and looking at homes. None of that was a crime, and Zimmerman never claimed Martin committed a crime. Zimmerman did exactly as his police-sponsored neighborhood watch training instructed him to do, which was call a non-emergency number anytime he saw something suspicious or saw someone in an area they did not belong. It's no more complicated than that.
*Zimmerman chased him. Why?* Zimmerman never chased Martin. To believe he did, you would have to ignore the evidence or be ignorant of it and believe other people who have ignored the evidence or are ignorant of it.
*In the walk-through interview, which is recorded, Zimmerman demonstrated that he continued in Martin's direction, armed, for several yards. How does he run for less than 10 seconds and get into a fight three minutes later?* Martin ran South away from the area Zimmerman was in and toward the back entrance, which was coincidently where the house was that Martin was staying at. Both of them lost sight of each other. Zimmerman stated so, and Rachel Jeantel also stated so when she said that Martin had told her, "I'm in the back by daddy's fiance's house." and also, "I lost him". 3.5 minutes after Zimmerman stopped running - and also approximately 3.5 minutes after Martin told Jeantel, "I lost him", the physical attack started in the same area Zimmerman had stopped running in. This is more evidence that Martin must have approached Zimmerman, not the other way around. You have to understand a lot of evidence to understand this clearly.
*We are supposed to believe the hothead we hear on the call gave up obediently because the dispatcher said so?* Yes. First, there is nothing "hot-headed" about Zimmerman's interaction with the dispatcher. Mumbling under your breath is the exact opposite of hot headed. Listen to Zimmerman's voice throughout the 4-minute call with dispatcher. He is nothing but calm. To answer your question directly, again, yes we should believe Zimmerman stopped running very shortly after the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that". It's wind noise that lead the dispatcher to conclude Zimmerman was following Martin, and the wind noise stops shortly after Zimmerman was told, "We don't need you to do that". After the wind noise stops, Zimmerman spoke very calmly with the dispatcher, and there is no wind noise for the entire 83 seconds he finished his call after the wind noise stopped.
If you would like to challenge anything I've said - or anything else, I'm willing and able to discuss. Also unlike most people, I'm willing to learn things I haven't already learned and change my opinion based on new things I've learned. If you want to ignore what I've said and continue believing what you believe based on assertions others have perpetuated, not based on evidence, you're welcome to do that as well.
@The Hand - I understand long-winded answers, combined with a case involving a mountain of evidence, is difficult to stay on the same page. Perhaps you would be interested in focusing a bit? I too have studied this case, and unlike most people am willing to have my conclusions about the case be scrutinized. Before focusing, I will respond to your comments.
Words by a defendant are indeed evidence. They are not necessarily proof of anything though.
There is not necessarily anything wrong with Zimmerman providing specific information to the dispatcher and then later adding new information. Certainly, you can guess that he might be lying with the new information. But he also might be telling the truth. To clarify though, Zimmerman never claimed Martin was trespassing. Only when later asked where Martin was when Zimmerman first saw Martin did Zimmerman tell police that Martin was in the yard of a house he knew Martin did not live. The situation was dynamic, and Martin likely stood for seconds at a time and walked at other times. Zimmerman has never been pressed to provide a second-by-second detailed retelling of every move Martin made and did not make. It would be ridiculous to believe Zimmerman - or anyone - could do that.
People try to make what Zimmerman saw simplistic when it's not. "Trayvon was doing nothing but walking" is a ridiculous statement people make. That's not to imply Martin was doing anything wrong. Whatever he was doing, Zimmerman found it to be suspicious. There's nothing wrong with that, unless "black = suspicious", which is another ridiculous notion that people apply to Zimmerman.
In the re-enactment, Zimmerman did indeed say the dispatcher asked him if he could get to where he could see Martin. And I agree, that did not happen. But it is clear, during the original call with the dispatcher, Zimmerman believed the dispatcher was perfectly agreeable with Zimmerman in keeping an eye on Martin. The dispatcher says at one point, "let me know if he does anything else". In fact, he said it twice.
The same circumstance as above applies to Zimmerman's other statements. While on the call, his comments were short and spontaneous. In the re-enactment, his statements were more long-form. There can be no real surprise that his statements don't 100% or even 60% align, even if the statements were 100% honest. I would be happy to discuss any one - or any number of these specific statements in more detail.
Yes, Zimmerman admitted to following Martin in his vehicle. Not a crime though, and he believed, rightly or wrongly, the dispatcher was OK with him keeping an eye on Martin.
When Zimmerman says Martin is running and Zimmerman follows, for the 2nd time, and you concluded that was "factually" a chase, you are ignoring a truckload of evidence that provides a lot more understanding. Where Martin was and where Zimmerman was at the point Martin started running is important. Do you have any idea? I do. Lots of evidence tells us very approximately where. The evidence tells us Martin might well have been out of Zimmerman's view while Zimmerman was still inside his vehicle more than 100 feet away. Maybe 200 feet way. The evidence tells us that Zimmerman did not start running until 14 seconds after Martin started running. If we do the math, Martin was at least 100 feet and another 14 seconds ahead of Zimmerman by the time Zimmerman started running. And for most of those 14 seconds, Zimmerman did not know where Martin was. So Zimmerman's reaction to run, as he later explained and is also supported by the evidence, was to get to an area where he could regain sight of Martin. The evidence tells us that Zimmerman ran for no more than 23 seconds. Based on where Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and the direction he headed, we can make very decent guesses as to where he was when he stopped running. And we can also guess that Martin was very close to the back of the house he was staying at, based on all of this evidence. This "chase" narrative is exactly that. It's a narrative based on little evidence and a lot of ignoring of a lot of other evidence. I can break this down in another post if interested.
You are correct, there is no evidence that Martin ever returned to the house. I never said he did though. I repeated what Jeantel said Martin told her. And based on the evidence of where Martin started running, combined with Jeantel saying Martin said, "in the back by my daddy's fiance's house", and Martin had enough time to crawl to the house, and it was Martin's intent to go home to watch the NBA all-star game, there is every reason to believe Martin either made it to the back door (or even the front door). Regardless, one must wonder why Martin returned to where he started running from, if not to specifically confront Zimmerman? "Trayvon had a right to be where Zimmerman was", while 100% true, is not a valid answer.
Your characterization of Zimmerman "hissing" profanity is a bit overly dramatic. He said under his breath, "effing punks". He said nothing else even close to similar while running. Not exactly a profanity-laced enraged hot-headed meltdown as you want us to believe. Your "It is documented" and "you don't get deny facts" comments were funny though.
Feel free to respond to anything or nothing. But can I request you pick one thing - anything - to debate or a single challenge question, then we'll get into it and see which of us understands the case - or at least that one point. Or may I challenge you on something/anything?
@The Hand - You said, again, *"there are no statements given by RJ (Rachel Jeantel) stating that Martin had returned to his father's girlfriend's house."* Why repeat this? I agreed with you the first time. I will say it again. Jeantel never stated Martin went to the house. I agree. I further explained why I believe Martin did go to the house. I may indeed be wrong about that, but nothing I said about it was unreasonable and certainly not dishonest. You don't appear to know the case anywhere near as well as you think you do. If you did, you would debate what I said and attempt to prove it wrong instead of simply asserting that I am dishonest and also reasserting your statement, implying I disagreed with a fact when I didn't.
You said, *I thought the freedom of Martin to move about would be conceded..."* I did concede that. You seem to have a comprehension issue. You added, *"but you want to perform time calculations so that you can lock down his whereabouts to further your argument."* Well, yeah. The timeline helps us connect dots. Other evidence does too. You seem to favor ignorance. I do not.
You said, *"The only evidence of Martin's location is the surveillance camera at the store where he bought the candy and the location of his body. His movements are not known."* You're dead wrong. If you actually studied the case and paid attention, you would know this. If you were interested in learning, you could. Or am I giving you too much credit?
You said, *"You have conceded that he was followed. We know GZ was armed. Martin was within his rights to defend himself upon fear for his life. "* The first two statements are true. The last is ridiculous. While Martin would have been within his rights to defend himself had he been in fear of his life, there is ZERO evidence that he was in fear of his life. Martin did not know Zimmerman was armed until the moment before he was shot, while still in the act of attacking Zimmerman.
You said, *"The shooter lied about instructions from dispatch and his credibility is in question."* There's no proof he lied. You "think" he lied. Your view of the entire case is based more on ignorance than evidence, and because of it you "feel" rather than know.
You said, *"As I said, there is zero evidence Martin took one step in Zimmerman's direction."* Look again. If you hadn't ignored my answer to you previously, you would know there is evidence Martin came toward Zimmerman. Again, Zimmerman told the dispatcher, "Now he's coming towards me" and also, "yup, he's coming to check me out". I even provided timestamps in the recorded call. But you're not interested in the timeline...... or evidence.
You said, *"Rather, the evidence shows that every step Zimmerman took was toward an unarmed teenager who had committed no crime."* You are simply wrong. You have no idea what steps Zimmerman took during the 3.5 minutes after Zimmerman had stopped running. The evidence indicates he was not walking South toward where Martin ran. You have no real understanding of anything. And you have no desire to remedy your predicament.
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