Should You Even Bother with Outbreak Perfected?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • The exotic mission Zero Hour is back and so is the Outbreak Perfected, it's fully craftable now and here's how to do the mission. Also, in this video we ask "is it worth it?" Is the weapon actually good in PVP and should you bother taking the time to craft it? Let's chat about it.
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  • @dredgen0268
    @dredgen0268 Месяц назад +60

    Nothing will ever EVER sound better than the sound Outbreak makes on a crit kill.

    • @elysiumcore
      @elysiumcore Месяц назад +3

      Peoowwwwwwww nit nit...nit nit nit * Siva particles sounds 😂 love 💕 it

    • @mackkennemer651
      @mackkennemer651 Месяц назад

      Yup

    • @lAscendantl
      @lAscendantl Месяц назад

      Yeah until we get the Raid weapons like Genesis Chain from D1 thst also did the sound and the Ex Machina sniper.

    • @camaroSSRS8
      @camaroSSRS8 Месяц назад

      Definitely this. Ever since I first heard it in D1 I just fell in love with this gun. It just adds to that satisfaction of getting a crit kill.

    • @goblingoovo6508
      @goblingoovo6508 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@lAscendantlIt was on all of them whenever their upgraded perks ie firefly on genesis chain activated.

  • @Marc-pu1wm
    @Marc-pu1wm Месяц назад +11

    I know TV mentioned the stability stat on Outbreak but what he forgot (or maybe just didn't know) is that Bungie said some years ago that they built Outbreak on an Auto Rifle frame which is why it feels so much more inherently stable than any other Pulse Rifle. It's extremely unique in this regard. It's the only Pulse in the game that has that feature. This gun feels like it's in it's own league in terms of consistency compared to all other Pulses. It's a Lightweight and those aren't the meta, but it's a stable consistent monster for being a Lightweight; even without Rapid Hit you can feel how tight the bullet grouping is on this gun per burst, but with it it's a whole other story. Just take it to the enclave and aim it at a plate, then just hold both triggers on controller and don't touch the sticks at all and watch as after 10-15 mag dumps it's still landing every single bullet on the plate without moving the reticle off of it at all...Other Pulses literally can't do that.

    • @stranger242
      @stranger242 Месяц назад

      Badjuju is built the same way

    • @KapasaGamer
      @KapasaGamer Месяц назад +1

      ​@@stranger242I believe they remade juju to feel more like a pulse as this auto rifle feature felt horrendous (at least to me)

  • @xthecre8or735
    @xthecre8or735 Месяц назад +48

    Short answer: yes
    Long answer: yes

    • @luisespinoza3877
      @luisespinoza3877 Месяц назад +3

      Really isnt, rapid fires are better. Shit even to the 450 auto nerf they still duel better🤷‍♂️

    • @Kyubii01
      @Kyubii01 Месяц назад +2

      @@luisespinoza3877every party needs a pooper that’s why they invited you

    • @luisespinoza3877
      @luisespinoza3877 Месяц назад +1

      @@Kyubii01 your upset at the truth 😂, its not that good anymore. Not to mention next expansion bungie will put out better legendary ones. Funny you cant accept people criticizing a game weapon😂😂

    • @Kyubii01
      @Kyubii01 Месяц назад

      @@luisespinoza3877 not at all cause I slay with the gun . Why would your opinion matter to me when the gun feels good and looks good. You are putting way more energy into this than me and that’s saying something

    • @luisespinoza3877
      @luisespinoza3877 Месяц назад

      @@Kyubii01 im sure you do, some one who cant accept criticism to a mediocre gun obviously isnt all that good at all😂😂. You can look me up ill give you my bungie id, before you can talk bakc.

  • @stalkholm5227
    @stalkholm5227 Месяц назад +1

    I was dreading doing the Legendary Mission; you just saved me an hour.

  • @OmniZenith1
    @OmniZenith1 Месяц назад +9

    0.87 second TTK but its only for 8 bullets, out of a 3 burst (9 total), and only 7 need to be a crit. If all shots crit in 3 bursts then it can beat out restoration and over-shields, especially with nanites getting mixed in. Leaning into the high handling and raising stability (fluted/arrowhead, steady rounds, headseeker, short action stock) is the play with head seeker to further improve the consistency of killing more resistant targets. Also nanites will shut down revives more effectively than anything else in the game, thanks to the immediate damage and ability to two burst the target (or one burst, depending on health) thanks to the increased damage. Yeah expect to see Outbreak Perfected a lot more often, especially for builds that center on gunplay than abilities.

  • @skuirrelTV
    @skuirrelTV Месяц назад

    Great vid TV!

  • @rafaelpinto9197
    @rafaelpinto9197 Месяц назад +1

    Cool vid, I think I'll keep my old one for now since I don't really have the time to grind out ZH every week. Hey TV have you noticed any changes in the matchmaking situation this week after the patch? I feel like it's gotten a bit better since your last video on the subject.

  • @undecillion25
    @undecillion25 Месяц назад +20

    I believe the one thing that would make outbreak a top tier weapon for high skill 3v3 gameplay like trials or comp would be if the nanites that spawn from a head shot kill stayed longer without disappearing, I’d say like 7 to 10 seconds long? It’d make it a very good map/revive control weapon.

    • @joako3733
      @joako3733 Месяц назад

      Yes but guns like that that are annoying asf

    • @Rawho323
      @Rawho323 Месяц назад

      Always thought it would be cool if you could go "absorb" those nanites to do something

    • @undecillion25
      @undecillion25 Месяц назад

      @@Rawho323 like thorn?

  • @nullpointer5603
    @nullpointer5603 Месяц назад

    Hey TV, you can unlock the first column barrel options this week as well in Zero Hour.

  • @mitchellprokopis7904
    @mitchellprokopis7904 Месяц назад +11

    It might be worth noting that the intrinsics may boost its stats...similar to revision zero

    • @williamchavez9302
      @williamchavez9302 Месяц назад +5

      It doesn't look like they do, unfortunately. You can get the tier 2 intrinsic right now, and the only thing each intrinsic appears to do is unlock the next crafting category slot (barrels, then mags, then stocks). It even says in the description when hovering over the perks in the crafting screen. I could be proven wrong, but that's what it looks like.

    • @frankcouper9377
      @frankcouper9377 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@williamchavez9302
      You're 100% correct.

    • @mitchellprokopis7904
      @mitchellprokopis7904 Месяц назад

      @williamchavez9302 thanks for confirming! Revision zero gets hefty stat boosts so I was just speculating

  • @DaveBravo7
    @DaveBravo7 Месяц назад +2

    As probably one of my most used weapons in the game it’s a Pve weapon and I think it will always be put fun for PvP

  • @OtherL
    @OtherL Месяц назад

    TV, If I catch you or any other of my favorite destiny tubers in the Crucible...I'm farming kills that day lol

  • @DamadaTattoo
    @DamadaTattoo Месяц назад +1

    Listening to this clip while doing some chores. And it’s like listening to Fry from Futurama! (I mean no offence, but it really is)

  • @pduvall55
    @pduvall55 Месяц назад

    TV haven't seen you in a while, advocate for rgh. We all miss it.

  • @jehbon
    @jehbon Месяц назад +2

    It’s super fun on warlock with chromatic fire on either strand or void, precision kills will either create strand (kinda siva) and void debuffs so the normal siva can more easily multi kill. Just a fun thing to play around with in 6’s

    • @J.Starkweather
      @J.Starkweather Месяц назад

      Also great for Arc too

    • @SepticEmpire
      @SepticEmpire Месяц назад +2

      Bruh chromatic is great on all subclasses wdym😂
      But void probably the best cuz the buddy can slow them why they take damage from siva
      On top of shutting down revives especially with the siva too
      And you might even get devour if they die by the orb
      And with that one fragment they’ll explode
      Imo void is just the best warlock subclass and it’s not even close

    • @J.Starkweather
      @J.Starkweather Месяц назад

      @@SepticEmpire Weaken lasts only two seconds in PvP

    • @SepticEmpire
      @SepticEmpire Месяц назад +1

      @@J.Starkweather pretty sure it last for 4 seconds and blind last for 1 second according to light gg anyway
      Also it’s not JUST weaken that’s happening it’s the explosion damage plus the siva nanites AND the void buddy
      And I’d rather my nanites do more damage than have the enemy be slightly impaired
      Plus the void buddy would do more damage from the weaken too so that plus the siva even if it doesn’t kill it’s still a LOT of damage and can shut down revives and punish players for grouping up which a lot of people are doing in trials rn
      Arc buddy can be good but void buddy is better because it feeds ability and can track even through walls and you don’t need direct line of sight and it also slows them down too and has a pretty decent area of effect too
      So even if weaken is for 2 seconds as you say imo it’s still better running void over arc
      Not to mention you can get devour AND BLINK void is just the best and you even get overshield with one of the fragments

  • @ChrisBaker801
    @ChrisBaker801 Месяц назад +21

    lol, the shade at the hc supremacists.

    • @kiritoequalspotato493
      @kiritoequalspotato493 Месяц назад +9

      I may like handcannons but there definitely not the hardest weapon to use

    • @ironladyerimuth
      @ironladyerimuth Месяц назад +4

      Hand cannon users act like they have the moral high ground while using a gun that shoots literal truck bullets, has great in air accuracy, is the best at peekshooting and has a load of range. I don't wanna hear it.

    • @gk66
      @gk66 Месяц назад +2

      im curious, what primary take more skill?? sidearms/smgs/auto/scout/pulse/bow? like cmon lol

    • @sm0k525
      @sm0k525 Месяц назад +1

      @@gk66sidearm for sure

    • @theveryamericaneagle3657
      @theveryamericaneagle3657 Месяц назад

      Scout,pulse,sidearm,auto,hc,sub that to me is ranked skilled to unskilled.​@@gk66

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 Месяц назад

    Ever since I got the outbreak prime in destiny 1 and after the tower got blown up I was sad that my favorite gun was gone then bungie brought it back in d2 I was over joyed and now they brought my favorite mission back with a craftable version I’m going to craft it regardless.

  • @pollyon
    @pollyon Месяц назад

    great video tv

  • @flunkie91
    @flunkie91 Месяц назад

    Over 50% of kills last week we’re handcannons, however I managed to get by just fine swapping between adhortative (340) and my adept summoner with zen/tl

  • @mountanedew9793
    @mountanedew9793 Месяц назад

    Having 100 recoil direction with more stability and rapid hit is amazing

  • @legoshi6531
    @legoshi6531 Месяц назад

    I love the outbreak, it was my first exotic i got when i joined the game in season of the splicer, ive got lots of good memories using it throughout that season 😭

    • @clanka5509
      @clanka5509 Месяц назад

      Wild how that season is 2 years old I loved that season

    • @SepticEmpire
      @SepticEmpire Месяц назад

      @@clanka5509I feel old now

  • @jeremyhsieh3749
    @jeremyhsieh3749 Месяц назад +1

    Anyone else geek out when you find yourself in a TrueVanguard video?

  • @johnh5909
    @johnh5909 Месяц назад +1

    I’m sorry comparing hand cannon ease of use with the flinch meta we’re in to pulse rifles is amazing 🤣 what’s the ttk if ya miss a shot 🤔

  • @jimmcmeen761
    @jimmcmeen761 Месяц назад

    Didn’t lightweight just got a damage buff?

  • @ZHibiki
    @ZHibiki Месяц назад

    I have a special place in my heart for this gun so yeah it is

  • @Zurrke
    @Zurrke Месяц назад +3

    Just announced a huuuuge pulse buff in pve btw

  • @josephwaldron6168
    @josephwaldron6168 Месяц назад +2

    Outbreak was good in d1 too but prolly hardest exotic to ever get

  • @g405t
    @g405t Месяц назад +4

    Taking your dadvice on this one.

  • @Brian-ch6hg
    @Brian-ch6hg Месяц назад

    Bungie bringing this nanite-storm back right at the beginning of cicada-pocalypse here in the US. Coincidence?

  • @Aurkus23
    @Aurkus23 Месяц назад

    Need to see if this can combine with the new arc hunter aspect. Don’t know if it gives jolt to non-arc weapons or not, Siva and Jolt could be fun.

    • @xNeoNxCyaN
      @xNeoNxCyaN Месяц назад

      Highly unlikely that it would, volatile rounds don’t go on kinetic weapons so I would imagine jolt wouldn’t go on one either

    • @Aurkus23
      @Aurkus23 Месяц назад

      @@xNeoNxCyaN Would seem like a waste if the whole team is required to run arc weapons for that aspect to have a use. Chromatic Fire gives dragonfly to kinetics…so maybe? You could be right, was gonna mention the Strand Better Devils in the new trailer but, that could’ve been for show.

    • @jaden577
      @jaden577 Месяц назад

      @@Aurkus23I’m pretty sure the aspect is supposed to make enemies jolted, not your gun. At the same time if you use it above allies it’s supposed to make them amplified. Meaning it will apply the debuff to the enemies directly. The only thing I can think of in the game that will allow your gun to apply jolted is voltshot.

  • @wangchangbackup
    @wangchangbackup Месяц назад +8

    The hand cannon skill conversation always just blows my mind. This is the only game I have EVER PLAYED where people are like furious if anything other than a hard-hitting semi-auto weapon is good. The "more skill-based" shooters people are always saying Destiny can never be like or compete with are almost always ruled by full auto or burst fire weapons!

    • @CAeuJohno123
      @CAeuJohno123 Месяц назад +1

      But, there is an argument to be had when the semi auto weapons in question, have bullets that magnetise to crit spots when the sights are no where near the target. When I shoot over someone's head, or shoot at scout rifle range, it shouldn't kill in 3 shots. They need to be high skill weapons offering very high rewards based on how skilled you are at using them

    • @Model1887isBEAST
      @Model1887isBEAST Месяц назад

      Even tho handcannons shoot bullets the size of kitchen appliances.. they honestly don't really take much skill imo

    • @SepticEmpire
      @SepticEmpire Месяц назад

      Destiny has some crazy gun vudu magic and hand cannons are pure dopamine
      Most competitive games (from what I know) also don’t have aim assist and all that stuff
      Personally I think destiny *can* be competitive and skill does exist in the game
      Sure hand cannons have insane aim assist but people still miss shots it’s just not as punishingly brutal as other games
      Which imo gives lower skill players a chance to complete
      Not to mention the same for ability they are wildcards everyone has so a bad player could go crazy with a super and put the match on even ground
      But a good player could counter the super or do better with their super

  • @joako3733
    @joako3733 Месяц назад +1

    As someone that uses pulses a lot they are also extremely easy to use idk about all that talk about 140s being easier

  • @themanwithnosoul3958
    @themanwithnosoul3958 Месяц назад

    Its a good workhorse weapon for both PvP and PvE, and will only het better with Final Shape thanks to how itll be able to charge both bars for Transcendence.

  • @darkside7802
    @darkside7802 Месяц назад

    Idk. I used to use it in PVP and it was pretty good. I guarantee it’ll be great with Headseeker.

  • @thesmallcheval
    @thesmallcheval Месяц назад +1

    I agree with your outbreak review however after spending time with a keep away head seeker Scalar Potential I disagree with you there. That gun is SO so consistent. Turns out it has a lot of…Potential…aha…ahh yes there’s the exit, I’ll see myself out.

  • @justagamethrower
    @justagamethrower Месяц назад

    0:45 its me lmao

  • @aaroncunningham1121
    @aaroncunningham1121 Месяц назад

    Accurate assessment. Super sticky, though!

  • @secret1566
    @secret1566 Месяц назад

    I personally don't think the stability is all that bad considering its unique recoil "feature" that bungie left with it. Even with its lowest stability it still feels incredibly tight after the first burst is fired. I have not used outbreak since the last time lightweight pulses were on the upper end of meta but I'm excited to try it out again (and I am definitely trying headseeker on it)

    • @jaden577
      @jaden577 Месяц назад

      I totally agree with you. Because of how stable the gun is with it’s frame, it’s probably even worth going something like full bore just to max it’s range even at a detriment to stability. Especially if you’re going with rapid hit as your perk option but even with headseeker I doubt full bore would change how the gun feels all that much

    • @secret1566
      @secret1566 Месяц назад

      @@jaden577 While probably true, I would rather stay more true to the guns original stability and not hurt it. The stats were already very easy to control so I see no reason to change stability in any way except MAYBE PvE simply to make holding down the trigger easier. PvP though theres no reason to hurt it, especially since stability still effects flinch resist

  • @LoganToulouse-uc2pl
    @LoganToulouse-uc2pl Месяц назад +1

    The outbreak despite having a low recoil stat actually has basically no recoil not sure why but it is incredibly easy to get the optimal ttk and is just a very easy gun to use

    • @Marc-pu1wm
      @Marc-pu1wm Месяц назад

      Bungie talked about this years ago, it's built on an Auto Rifle frame and it's the only Pulse in the game to have that feature. It's inherently more stable than any other Pulse in the game. Stats are misleading on it for that very reason. It's kind of like how Luna's Howl is a 140 handcannon but it was built on a 180 handcannon frame.

  • @joshuaspears4216
    @joshuaspears4216 Месяц назад +56

    Fellow dad rifle lovers unite! (Did I get first comment lol)

    • @gamerclips1882
      @gamerclips1882 Месяц назад +2

      I’m a 30 yr old dad and it’s true…as I’ve gotten older I’ve fallen in love with pulses more and more. But don’t get it twisted I’ll still put on a shotty and HC if I have to sweat but damn pulses are fun 😂

    • @joeymcintosh29
      @joeymcintosh29 Месяц назад

      ​@@gamerclips1882BIG same lol. 🤣

    • @PersianWolverine
      @PersianWolverine Месяц назад

      Holy shit.. first comment.. congrats!!! Your life has meaning now!!!! ❤❤ you got THE FIRST COMMENT ON A RUclips VIDEO!! ALL HAIL THE KING!!🥰🥰🤦‍♂️

    • @paulhinterberger7438
      @paulhinterberger7438 Месяц назад

      I'm not even a dad and I love pulses 😭 I'd use a HC but I can't consistently hit that 3 tap with all headshots cuz my shots aren't that great. So in comes the pulse...

  • @skorpyo331
    @skorpyo331 Месяц назад

    Perfect! Pvp not on my to do list

  • @DarkPyroZero
    @DarkPyroZero Месяц назад

    I'm trying to solo Zero Hour and I forgot about a few of the things in the mission and ended up losing like 10 mins of my time and ended up failing because of that

    • @bradenkinard6293
      @bradenkinard6293 Месяц назад

      It's pretty difficult, might be best to wait till next week. There are a couple bugs. Apparently the enemies in normal are the same as in legend, and the boss and servitor when the boss brig comes as well as the brig will invis kill you by the architects. I died 9 times by architects my first try. Even while trying to hide I still died to nothing, neither boss was shooting me and still died. After 8 trys I finally beat it solo but it was a pain.

  • @willardlarkinsnow5622
    @willardlarkinsnow5622 Месяц назад

    So no head?

  • @MxIzmir
    @MxIzmir Месяц назад

    If nanites proc headseeker imma shid

  • @giantslayer9335
    @giantslayer9335 Месяц назад +1

    Wouldn’t Headseeker be the go to for Outbreak, given the lack of forgiveness Lightweights have in PvP?

    • @chriskim757
      @chriskim757 Месяц назад +1

      Yes 💯

    • @otisdriftwood7094
      @otisdriftwood7094 Месяц назад

      @@chriskim757 I thought headseeker was more valuable on the pulses that can't two burst like this one. But vanguard seems to disagree.

    • @jaden577
      @jaden577 Месяц назад

      @@otisdriftwood7094I’m in the boat of we’ll wait and see, cause it’d be pretty nutty if the nanites could proc headseeker

  • @kelsonlewis9252
    @kelsonlewis9252 Месяц назад

    I think for regular players handcannons are absolutely the benchmark for skill. No matter what I do I suck with handcannons. I just either take 4 or 5 shots to take someone out or I spend a lot of extra time trying to line up headshots.

  • @KingTraut
    @KingTraut Месяц назад +1

    How you kill titan threw the barrier in the beginning?

  • @MGShadow1989
    @MGShadow1989 Месяц назад

    As a kinetic slot exotic PR it's competing directly with Revision Zero for me, which is my preference by a significant margin in PvE and PvP

  • @Welverin
    @Welverin Месяц назад

    Yes.

  • @zacharyrosmanitz7547
    @zacharyrosmanitz7547 Месяц назад

    it’s a lazer beam now, all you need to change is small bore &rapid hit

  • @mattp8654
    @mattp8654 Месяц назад

    Extended mag, rewind rounds.. i really want this gun to become a pve meta option

  • @awrc4thawrc4th41
    @awrc4thawrc4th41 Месяц назад

    Still unable to beat the normal mode. 3 attempts so far, 2 solo (didn’t even get to the boss) and 1 using fireteam finder (took ages to get into team) Finally made it to boss only to find my teammates were nowhere to be found…… Failed. Not sure i can be bothered to try again. Hate timed missions. Wouldn’t be so bad if it was easier to get into team.

  • @kiritoequalspotato493
    @kiritoequalspotato493 Месяц назад +1

    I really dont think rapid hit is necessary sinces its so stable inherently and reload isn’t that bad so im going for headseeker for the slight damage increase and extra aim assist

  • @paulboissiere1278
    @paulboissiere1278 Месяц назад

    It’s trippy to hear this opinion from vanguard. I feel like when I use outbreak in pvp I’m cheating.

  • @StayPuft80
    @StayPuft80 Месяц назад

    I have it.... never used it. At least it gave some people a lob on and Bungie probably got a few numbers playing

  • @jez76
    @jez76 9 дней назад

    PvP: No
    PvE: Yes. Absolutely yes!
    Melting champions at 15-20 below level with one mag of a kinetic primary while getting 30% of your super back is no joke, and it’s even a great ad clear.
    The intrinsic updates and catalyst takes it to another level.

  • @coremanger
    @coremanger Месяц назад

    im gonna use my free name change and do true gambit lol

  • @gamesordames9480
    @gamesordames9480 Месяц назад

    Yes. Yes you should.

  • @Sullyjr
    @Sullyjr Месяц назад +1

    I’ll never understand how hand cannons take a lot of skill to use in peopled eyes. How is hitting three shots with a hand cannon difficult? lol

    • @jaden577
      @jaden577 Месяц назад

      On paper it’s not, but even after bungie reduced the flinch that primaries take hand cannons still get flinched to the moon it feels like. Especially by pulses. Meaning it’s harder for you to hit those shots when you’re being shot back, and hand cannon ttks become pretty bad if you’re not 3 tapping. Whereas with a pulse or auto, missing one shot doesn’t make much of a difference usually and the fight is still recoverable. Sure, hand cannons do have a lot of aim assist and magnetism and in the right hands they could feel pretty oppressive, but how many people who have never touched the game before could hop into the game currently and be a hand cannon god without practice? Whereas on the flip side, pulses and autos are way easier to use and are just as competitive.
      That’s just my opinion though, I’m not really a hand cannon elitist, just an enjoyer. They just feel really satisfying when you’re popping off and really bad when you’re playing bad, making them a more accurate representation of a person’s skill if they’re able to be super consistent with them.

    • @Sullyjr
      @Sullyjr Месяц назад

      @@jaden577 Hand cannons dont get fliched at all so not sure what game you are playing

  • @Adam-xs4eo
    @Adam-xs4eo Месяц назад +3

    Finally someone said it 🙌 the HC elitism is absurd

  • @adamgriffin
    @adamgriffin Месяц назад

    This gun is getting boss damage nerfed according to the weapon tuning preview so i'm going to pass on grinding for this one.

  • @BansheeNornPhenex
    @BansheeNornPhenex Месяц назад +1

    Tried it in pantheon its pretty garbage. Id wait til they buff pulse rifles for pve

  • @danhalo1405
    @danhalo1405 Месяц назад +2

    I honestly would way way rather get a craftable version of the Bad Juju because it is the same archetype of pulse rifle as the Outbreak Perfected but it can 2 tap with its String of curses perk, so Bad Juju with a good selection of perks would have a lot more potential to be a great pvp weapon than the Outbreak has.

  • @COREcasual
    @COREcasual Месяц назад +1

    Only if you don't already have it

  • @pmmcrobb
    @pmmcrobb Месяц назад

    It kinda sucks in PVP right now. Between the huge hand cannon meta, and the fact that lightweight pulses are probably the worst off archetype right now.
    That being said, I kinda love using it in PVE. Run Strand, get Banner of War, and keep procing it and tangles with Outbreak.
    It sucks that it basically still has the same stat range as it did years ago. Really shows how much power creep has occurred. These stats used to be king.

  • @blakestewart7533
    @blakestewart7533 Месяц назад

    Praying nanite damage procs rewind rounds

  • @nenzonenzo
    @nenzonenzo Месяц назад

    lol imagine a roller player knokin on AA. This guy

    • @TrueVanguard
      @TrueVanguard  Месяц назад +3

      I mean... I play on console. Did you, like, want me to XIM? You realize Aim Assist is on MnK as well in big quantities as Bungie themselves noted right? Weird comment bro, like no hot woman out there is really going to care that you play Destiny 2 on Mouse and Keyboard so why you trying to act like it's a flex lol

  • @morrismilton517
    @morrismilton517 Месяц назад +2

    If Handcannons aren’t the highest skill primary what is? Pulse rifles, side arms, auto rifles, scout rifles, smgs
    High aim assist doesn’t make the gun easier to use when almost every other option allows you to sit in the back of the map or just hold the trigger down.
    I love auto rifles and pulses but they are not high skill and we know smgs aren’t

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 Месяц назад +1

      The highest "skill" primaries are either bows or scouts.
      Both drastically suffer if a shot is missed and require longer ranges traditionally (excluding special cases like hush and dmt) but of course that's if you literally mean only landing head shots as "skill" and not the 4 other skills of weapon mastery.

    • @Ayo_zak
      @Ayo_zak Месяц назад +1

      @@theremnants6807i threw up in my mouth 🤢

    • @Ayo_zak
      @Ayo_zak Месяц назад +2

      Hand canons are definitely the highest skill primaries. Don’t let pulse rifle Andies ever tell you otherwise. I have huge respect for TV but I disagree with him at times.

    • @morrismilton517
      @morrismilton517 Месяц назад

      @@theremnants6807 that is the most wild statement I’ve heard in a while. I would agree with you if people played with those weapons aggressively, but 99 percent of bow scout users are Lanning Larry’s camping in the back of the map.
      Their so far out of range that return fire only tickles their pickle and they can continue landing ranged shots

    • @morrismilton517
      @morrismilton517 Месяц назад

      @@Ayo_zak bro, same. That was a ridiculous statement and he had to be trolling

  • @forrealthoughbruh
    @forrealthoughbruh Месяц назад +1

    lol. Truth. HCs don’t equal skill.
    I did the quest solo. Very frustrating but doable. Almost went flawless.
    I think the the issue is running the legend quest to get the intrinsics unlocked. I think that’s going to be a real pain.

    • @sauceinmyface9302
      @sauceinmyface9302 Месяц назад +1

      Legend and normal mode enemies are the same right now. If you're used to combat in normal, you can do legend.

    • @forrealthoughbruh
      @forrealthoughbruh Месяц назад +1

      @@sauceinmyface9302 good to know! I saw something about that on the forums and wasn’t sure if it was the case. Just knew it felt harder than necessary for “normal”. But now that I know I can bounce back in to get the rest of the quest completed. 👍🏼

  • @KapasaGamer
    @KapasaGamer Месяц назад

    I feel like rapid hit is the best perk overall. It allows you to hit and keep hitting easier, plus it buffs reload insanely well.
    I am curious about how the nanites will affect headseeker though.

  • @CAeuJohno123
    @CAeuJohno123 Месяц назад

    Its funny, i only left a comment on frostbolts lightweight pulse video, basically saying how they are completely obsolete right now.
    In d1, the lightweights outshined the adaptives due to the duelling capabilities and better ttk. Buffing lightweights more, would make adaptives obsolete, just like they were in d1
    Right now, the whole crucible meta is the most imbalanced meta we've had since d2s launch imo. Hand cannons dominate in every way possible. Theres no place for lightweigh pulse rifles, when 140 hand cannons do everything that all 5 archetypes of pulse do, but better. At least high impacts and rapid fires have their place in the meta as a competitive option

  • @subzero308
    @subzero308 Месяц назад +7

    Im not running a mission for a gun i already have and had to run again to get the catalyst just stupid... The ones that have already did the mission before should be able to craft the Outbreak we already have.

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Месяц назад +1

      If you could do it back then, you can do it again now that resilience gives DR, we have way stronger weapons, subclass reworks, mod reworks, etc.
      It takes less than 20 minutes. It's not hard. You did the old version of this mission for the old version of the weapon. If you want the new version of the weapon, do the new version of the mission. There's absolutely nothing wrong/annoying about this.
      Even if you were able to "craft" the old one, you'd need to do the new version anyways to get the new traits just like other craftable exotics.

    • @Wallaces_Wood
      @Wallaces_Wood Месяц назад

      @@jonahbrown5669 the annoying part is doing the same fucking content AGAIN for the same shit.

  • @paultaylor4001
    @paultaylor4001 Месяц назад +5

    Why bother bungie will nerf it

  • @luisespinoza3877
    @luisespinoza3877 Месяц назад +2

    Rapid fires still better dueling weapon…so those who use dad rifles just use a crafted over soul, or that riven season one🤷‍♂️

  • @jrclark222
    @jrclark222 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for saving me from wasting my time grinding this mission. I hate these exotic missions, and hate them even more if they hide a PvP monster gun in a PvE activity.

  • @sm0k525
    @sm0k525 Месяц назад

    Glad you mentioned how ppl fool themselves about how hand cannons are not that high of a skill weapon.

  • @iwaskillcam1434
    @iwaskillcam1434 Месяц назад

    Yeah Hand cannons are easy mode

  • @swampzombietm9918
    @swampzombietm9918 Месяц назад

    I thought you quit Destiny… 😂

  • @nicholasgrogan856
    @nicholasgrogan856 22 дня назад

    Hitting a full burst from Outbreak is just as easy as hitting a headshot with a hc. Dont kid yourself.

  • @danperkins4781
    @danperkins4781 Месяц назад +4

    Headseeker is the secret sauce to make this family work. TTK slaves just completely ignore it. The ease of use boost with HS is enormous.
    Like I’m sorry tv but you clearly just haven’t used a good headseeker roll on this frame. You simply can’t say the stuff you did if you’ve used one.

    • @TrueVanguard
      @TrueVanguard  Месяц назад +5

      Umm… this is a real weird comment dude. I never said I used Headseeker on it bc it’s time gated lol, I’ve used it on Lightweights and the return on investment isn’t as good as other families mathematically. Unless you’re stacking HS and another Damage buff like Chattering Bone.
      Real weird snarky comment man lol just politely disagree like normal ppl.

    • @user-fr2dq7ml9v
      @user-fr2dq7ml9v Месяц назад +3

      Getting cooked by tv is tough

  • @TriniHammer777
    @TriniHammer777 Месяц назад

    It's a PvE weapon

  • @jc7111
    @jc7111 Месяц назад +1

    Say it for the people in the back.
    HAND CANNONS ARE MORE FORGIVING THAN PULSES.

  • @thenexus7343
    @thenexus7343 Месяц назад

    The whole point of this gun is that you dont actually feel the stability the way it shoots make it not matter nearly as much as you think, agree with everything else tho

    • @joshtenney4143
      @joshtenney4143 Месяц назад

      If I remember correctly they used the recoil animation from an auto rifle for it, which is why it feels so stable.

  • @joshuanovakowski8293
    @joshuanovakowski8293 Месяц назад

    So hand cannons need to catch an aim assisstant cone nerf. That's what I'm gathering from this.

    • @stasis760
      @stasis760 Месяц назад

      Nah, but they aren't the hardest guns to use. They have alot of ease of use

    • @joshuanovakowski8293
      @joshuanovakowski8293 Месяц назад

      @stasis760 they have the highest aim assist cone in the whole game, 3 degrees if memories serve. Most everything else is under 2 degrees. Too much ease of use, and it is stifling other weapons in game.

    • @fotis3v480
      @fotis3v480 Месяц назад +1

      As a HC main i wouldn't mind a HC aim assist nerf but compensate bu reducing bloom.

  • @trikotine358
    @trikotine358 Месяц назад

    Algorithm

  • @ryanariola2574
    @ryanariola2574 Месяц назад

    Dad Rifle user for life. Relentless , No time , Elsie's , Blast Furnace , Ju-Ju etc...... Pulse users union unite🤘🤘

  • @apollodeancampbell4272
    @apollodeancampbell4272 Месяц назад +1

    It's too hard ti grind, I'd rather keep the original

  • @xgumbix1
    @xgumbix1 Месяц назад

    100% agree with the HC talk. They are the easiest weapons to use in pvp. Don’t have to be anywhere near the head for a crit. Anybody who says they are the highest skill weapons to use need to take those training wheels off lol.

  • @kennydolby1379
    @kennydolby1379 Месяц назад +2

    Nah, I crafted Chattering Bone with Rapid Hit + Headseeker , I'm good. Bungie's PVE content is so anti-fun after Lightfall, that I would have to be really bored to play this exotic mission. Apparently even on normal it's harder than a Dungeon.
    "You need to grab some friends or clanmates" - you lost me here.

  • @jerrycasper614
    @jerrycasper614 Месяц назад

    Too much work, too little gun for the effort.

  • @jadehawk1586
    @jadehawk1586 Месяц назад

    Only a pvp noob thinks every gun is made for pvp. Every gun varies on usage with person.

  • @fredericoeusebio9770
    @fredericoeusebio9770 Месяц назад

    "The stocks are only really there to make up for the bad stability...." really???? One of the most stable guns on the entire game...bad stability?who cares if stability is low... its visual recoil is non existent for fuck sake...the only problems this thing has is reload and handling... things stocks can do wonders for...

    • @TrueVanguard
      @TrueVanguard  Месяц назад

      It matters because flinch is tied to your stability stat. If it’s too low, you’ll actually get a flinch penalty. More stability means better chances of hitting your shots while under fire.

  • @jessedee5696
    @jessedee5696 Месяц назад

    Annoys the fucking shit out of me when bungie reprises weapons and they don’t update the stats.
    They gave this thing the spare rations treatment. Too hard to click a few buttons on bungies end

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Месяц назад

      With it being craftable it should boost stats when you get the full intrinsic right?

    • @fotis3v480
      @fotis3v480 Месяц назад

      We literally got stocks andnwe can finally get rid of extended barrel taking away 10 handling.
      In PvP you are looking at at least +10 handling or stability or a bunch of different combos.
      Me swapping to smallbore,smooth grip is automatically a +15 handling and +12 stability.

  • @cheemy1000
    @cheemy1000 Месяц назад

    I hated the original Whisper Mission, the same with Outbreak. I have both, I'm not going through those again just to craft them. (I hate jumping puzzzles BTW)

  • @stevegaspar
    @stevegaspar Месяц назад +1

    I don't think it's worth doing the mission if you already have one. For one the mission is not newbie friendly at all and LFG is already a nightmare for it. Normal is also bugged as the enemies are at legend strength. Also, if you so plan on legend then those switches? Ya, you all need to let them reset because your quest won't progress for all members. Dumb

    • @bradenkinard6293
      @bradenkinard6293 Месяц назад

      That's not the only bug. The servitor and brig will kill you even when they're not attacking you and it says killed by architects. I'd hide pop out shoot then go back to hiding and die immediately to nothing.

  • @UltraViolent21
    @UltraViolent21 Месяц назад +1

    Not worth it. Got it years ago. Who cares?

  • @coreyclark4190
    @coreyclark4190 Месяц назад +1

    5:13 Nah gotta interject right there, handcannons are definitely the benchmark for player skill. Love ya Vanguard but ain’t no way I’m about to let someone advocate that pulse rifles are closer to the benchmark instead, you’ve gotta be kidding. Pulse rifles and autos are pretty much in the same category IMO, stand and deliver which is a term you’ve used in the past. It takes a lot more to slay out with a handcannon in a match than it does using a pulse to do it. I don’t think any “pretending” is necessary here, if you see someone drop 50 kills with a scrim load out (HC/Shotty or HC/Sniper), you respect it more than Pulse Rifle Perry who sat and laned the entire time and played his life behind his teammates all the while keeping a cryosthesia handy in case someone compromises his camping spot. With a HC just having high aim assist isn’t enough to discredit the skill ceiling for the playstyle it requires. You still need to be good with reticle placement, your movement has to be worth a damn, peek shooting effectively is required as well. There are a lot of different factors and skills that go into being good with a HC, regardless of the aim assist value. It doesn’t take much to slay a with a pulse, if anything pulse rifle usage, auto rifle usage and scout usage are the bottom 3 on the skill tier list. There isn’t much need for brainpower for those weapons, that’s a large reason why pulses and autos are ruling right now, everybody gets the effect of Low input/ High output.
    I couldnt let the HC downplay slide my boi 😂

  • @roberttaylor4213
    @roberttaylor4213 Месяц назад

    Second comment lol

  • @andyortega1517
    @andyortega1517 Месяц назад

    I had 30K kills (PvE) on my Outbreak and after crafting one and looking at them side by side there is no reason to use the old Outbreak - It is simply inferior in every way. It’s absolutely worth spending half a day to unlock everything.

  • @Ayo_zak
    @Ayo_zak Месяц назад

    I use Ace of Spades, probably has least aim assist.

    • @Sullyjr
      @Sullyjr Месяц назад +1

      Ace is actually one of the highest aim assist weapons in the game at 70 aim assist

    • @otisdriftwood7094
      @otisdriftwood7094 Месяц назад

      @@Sullyjr Not for a 140 though, hawkmoon has 93 and Rose has 85.