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i really felt how time passed when physics spoke about "top tree dawn", "double dash warlock" and "titan stasis melee being faster" this seems so old to me lol
Best PVP players: Objective game modes, camp the objective to rack up kills. Competitive game modes: Use meta weapons depending on the map and engagement distances with a shotgun, don't peek, and team shoot. There you have it, its really that simple. There are only a few players that dominate content creators and they beginning to arrive on RUclips. The creators we are used to seeing are in the same league as some of these players I have recently discovered.
Get atleast three games of comp in. Stop after three or five losses. After three or five losses, be done for the day. Get your regular control games in to learn map sense.
For sure dude. And if you can clip your games and watch some of your best and worst matches to see why you won certain engagements and lost others. Sometimes it’s helpful to see things when you’re not mid match and can pay more attention to
Honestly I didn't pass the learning curve until I hit about 20k kills. That's when I personally noticed a large leap in skill and understanding of the Crucible. My KDA massively improved from that point on.
I'm just quitting pvp in all on destiny 2. Matchmaking sucks, always running into a sweat squad in reg or comp. Even trials is giving me the worst time of the century with putting me against 3-stacks. And it's like I'm getting 2-shot too by all their guns, when my gun takes 4-5 to kill them. I try to get better, I try really hard. But I'm always losing like this, and it's making me want to throw my entire setup away in the shed. These guys do give nice tips, but in general I'm not getting any better. Time to put up pvp, just go back to pve
I honestly wish I could relocate the radar. I'm legality blind in my left eye, so the radar is next to useless to me on the upset left hand side. Though I found a work around in audio based tracking and prepositioning.
how do you release a video this far into d2 and it be outdated by 4 years, i like the concept, but the amount of work going into getting all these creators together is wayyy to much too keep up with the relevance of the sandbox, about half of these tips no longer apply, effort appreciated nonetheless
So, just to put my skill level in perspective, im generally in the top 1% of trials elo with a 1.9 for most seasons (i started d2 at a .88) . And ive helped several of my clanmates significantly improve their kds. What ive learned doing that is you can usually break pvp up into 3 broad catagories. Gun skill, reaction time, and information interpretation. Gun skill is pretty simple, get a gun you like that's competitive and practice, it's just muscle memory, and that takes time. Some ppl adjust better than others and can adjust to a lot of guns others are better specializing in a few. Information interpretation is harder because it's a matter of multi-tasking and experience. My best tips here are learn the radar within an inch of its life, its as much a tool for your information as it is one to give disinformation to your opponents, and sound is your second best friend, change audio settings so you can at least hear jumps, and footsteps if you wanna take it that far. Between sound and radar, you canknow whats going on and where at almost all times. Reaction speed is the toughest. It's s. Combination of the first two to make the right decision as fast as possible and be able to execute. And your own personal physical reaction speed, unfortunately, while you can mitigate the reaction time with knowledge and skill, your reaction speed will be a hard limit. I have a friend who has tge knowledge and gun skill but cant process the information fast enough to react to it in real time, though he has improved substantially. Of course there's a hundred little things.
You’re pretty spot on with this analysis. Very well stated. I do have unfortunate news for younger gamers: reaction time increases (that’s bad) as you age, no matter how much you practice or how naturally talented you might be. This is true for how quickly one can physically respond to ANY sensory stimulus, whether it’s getting to the brakes to slow/stop your car, or moving the sticks and buttons on a video game controller. I suggest players focus on the second of the three key components listed by @razaiel - Information Interpretation. That skill won’t degrade as you age. Reaction time will degrade.
@18mins, That's one of the best things I learned from watching Gold - how he just knows instantly to run from an engagement. Cut your losses and know when to quit and run, survive more fights. I realize that's part of the reason 'pros' almost never compromise 100 Recovery, and why so many people can never let go of Stompees/Transversives/Dunes. Turns out running away, and getting back in just as fast is one of the key fundamentals. I think I got my first few We Rans from re-wiring my brain to do that, and that's when PVP in this game reaaally clicked for me.
I absolutely agree with this. I’m just returning after a long long break and this has been my biggest goal with getting back in the crucible the last week. Got my first two we rans from applying the same principle
Agree, so many people go on a "mini tilt" moment and continue the push or hold and die. Knowing when to push and when to run is powerful when you combine that with map and radar awareness. I don't always drop tons of kills. Some matches less then ten...but I never pull less then a 2.0 CE and I carry currently a 2.57 Seasonal CE. It's listening to that voice that's says run and drop the pride lol.
I'm overly aggressive in comp and trials. I can't solo flawless or win more than one or two in a row in comp or trials. Control and the other 6 man modes I dominate most of the time.
Well said. Being able to recognize - very quickly - when you’re losing a duel, and *also* being able to escape (either via abilities or just plain good positioning) is a BIG important skill that many players overlook. K/D ratio has both a numerator and a denominator. Increasing your number of kills doesn’t matter if your death rate also increases simultaneously. It isn’t as “sexy” as a kill streak, but a “staying alive” streak is just as meaningful on the battlefield. Every time you KO, you are hurting your team, even if you manage to do something positive in the process.
Listening through now, in the section where you're talking to castle. I was thinking "maybe I don't need to listen to this video- I've seen all the interviews when they first came out." And then I hear you talking about playing too much pve, leveling, getting gear, etc, and how then you just feel bad at pvp until you go back to spending all your time in it. And I'm dealing with that EXACT same thing right now. Yeah I need to be reminded. That's the great thing about tips like this... Even when you've heard them before, even when you've improved some, you go back and get reminded of fundamental important things and it feels fresh again.
I did what you guys suggested just playing more PvP and wow, a few days of consistent PVP has helped me so much improving my numbers! You can't be instantly good at everything and I have to remind myself of that.
You should totally do podcasts like this. Love to hear how people play the game and your interview style suits it so well! Listening to this at work so i'm missing all the gameplay but still enjoying the video so far! Keep em coming!
@@PattycakesGaming seen a bunch of them over the years 😅 Your videos with Time are really inspiring. I get bored of watching the usual HC shotty gameplay so off meta content like that is really enjoyable!
Generally speaking, the best at "input skill" tend to be shitty people. They get noticed more for it however and the other billions of shitty people go under the radar simple due to their irrelevance.
19:28 I know some readers might laugh at this, but I actually think it’s important for Destiny content creators to either stop using the phrase “play your life”, or instead be very specific and deliberate about what “play your life” means, every time you say this. I feel like the “play your life” phrase goes right in one ear and out the other for many individuals. They have some sense that the phrase means something akin to “be careful”… but then they just ignore that thought and full-send an aggressive and/or stupid play, regardless. I know that “don’t die purposelessly” is the intent of “play your life”… but I also know that does not register for some decently-sized chunk of the PvP population. We really should ditch “play your life”, in favor of something like, “don’t play stupid/recklessly” or “don’t throw the match by acting impulsively”. My suggested alternatives stink, but there NEEDS to something clearer than “play your life” for a lot of players.
I love these kinds of videos. I always try to look for ways to improve in PVP. The only problem is I don't know what kind of PVP player I am. Am I bad, decent, or good is something I have trouble evaluating about myself. I tried posting videos but never got any replies, so I am stuck in limbo 😂😂. I think I am an average PVP player at the very least.
Regardless of who can give what advice, the best advice I ever got was to adjust settings to turn on auto punch and shoot on, and the true centre aim adjust setting to on. The rest comes with time spent in the game mode. I only started pvping for iron banner gear literally this past week properly, I've avoided pvp for most of my destiny life as I suck at it, yet shockingly trying to get iron lord and spending hours doing it, I'm sitting around 3.0 - 3.5 each game now from about a 1.5 at best.
d2 pvp sucks and i quit the game as a whole because of it even if i love the game itself. why? aim assist, ability spam, too fast paced combat, too much sweats, too grindy, same re-used or re-skinned content over and over aggain
This video is so good. Thank you. I love how positively each person speaks on the game too. It’s not fun to die but sometimes it’s really entertaining to play against other good players.
Idk about y'all, but I feel like sniping has fallen off a cliff this season. Like, I just don't see ANYONE sniping. It's all shotguns. Conditional, matador, Someday, pretty much all I'm seeing are shotguns. Personally, I've tried to use conditional finality, but I just can't jive with it. I always feel like I don't have enough range, and if I were using a matador or something else, I'd have definitely gotten the pick. I've tried to snipe, especially considering I feel like everyone has been SLEEPING on the new Embraced Identity from the pale heart. Enhanced moving target and enhanced opening shot are damn good together, and you can use it with Khvostov. Everyone has had beloved GLUED to their energy snipe if they're not using cloud strike for eons. And other than, like, occluded finality which is its own thing, I feel like Embraced Identity would be EVERYWHERE if shotguns and abilities weren't completely dominating.
Biggest tip, always follow behind your fireteam, always. For all shooters when you are queing solo follow behind and shoot the people shooting at the person in front, your KD will improve drastically :)
Can we address the elephant in the room ? If you’re already a decent player at a 1.5-2.0 K/D player in trials or comp what happens if you match xim/zen console players consistently . Because there’s no real way to counter that and it’s frustrating . If your not rolling Stacked players it’s almost impossible
I really like your content and I was a bit upset that in this video you recycle a previous video that I have already seen all of them on the other hand if I have seen them all and a few more years after they came out that means they are really good(Edit: I realized now that it was meant to be a summary video for all the tips, thanks for putting them all in one video and making it more accessible :)
Yeah I realize there’s a lot of newer players with TFS and most of them aren’t going to sift through like 30 hours of older interviews lol. But I thought it was worth making a summary of some of the best tips in a more easy to consume format for people who haven’t watched them all. Plus it’s a good reminder for people who have heard some of it before but haven’t been thinking about it lately!
@@PattycakesGaming Yes, it really reminded me of all kinds of things that I had forgotten and the truth was it was a good idea to make this video because I would probably never go back and watch all these videos because there are so many and they are too long so thank you at the end for the video it was a really nice and useful refresher despite all What I said (And thank you for taking the time to answer me, I really appreciate it:) )
Thanks for these, before I took a break after Beyond light these videos really helped me feel more confident in PVP and I even had clips to show my progress to show it was working. After coming back I've definitely lost some skill but here's hoping it'll come back, thanks Pattycakes!
Yes a lot of this stuff does help in game but the most important part of being a good player is the peripherals that Diffizzle brought up. The game becomes a lot easier when you’re using the best products and have optimal ping/fps/no ghosting. Invest in the best ISP plan for your area. The best and most compatible monitor for your console/pc. And the highest quality router. Pro gamers have the best hardware available and some of the lowest ping/latency in the game.
My problem - as a good FPS player (like cod or something else) is, that you really have no overview or can make use of your senses - especially sound. You dont hear enemies approach. The radar is not a help at all and that its going away while ads is breaking the whole information flow. Also i dont understand why titan or warlock melees kill with oneshot most times and hunters cant do it with 2. Its not like they are better in all other regards to balance them by crippling the melee. And i like to snipe. But to approach a nice sniperhit - you need a crosshair. But guess what.. you dont have one on snipers while not ADS.. only in ADS. The most weapons i dont like because of the zoom factor. On other shooters you have options for different zoom values to get conftable. In D2 its almost everythime too much zoom for my taste. Im not on a console sitting 5m away from the TV to need zoom just too see something. And i dont need to see the facehair of guardians just when ADS.. I consider me to bad in D2 MP - and its not like im getting better by margins. While in other fps i am pretty good and had a clan "wars" past. I think it could be so much better in another way. But i also understand its a niche approach for FPS MP whicht others are loving - because its so different. So i have mixed feelings about it. :O
There's a lot of "new players" questions to a veteran, expert player. How often do you think he comes across new players? I think most of the time he probably plays against other experts and mid players, it would be unlikely that he would get matchmade against new players, right?
Jeez hearing this guy talk about PVP is why I stay away from PVP lmao. I don’t wanna chase a sweaty rat “playing his life” and “playing behind cover”. Bruh it’s a game about space aliens with powers go out and use them bro it’s not that serious 💀 (I’ve gone flawless dozens of times still hate PvP)
I never look at the opposing team in trails im banking that their stats are going to be better and its a 3 stack and I am a solo no mic and I had to completely change how i interacted in game trails i would be awe struck an my pride would be my biggest weakness but I really enjoy the ability to observe the way others are running stats or loadouts but I truly play as if I am going to sweeep every team and that aint none of them gonna have a chance lol wish I was better with manifesting that into the real world tho lol
You only need a prismatic hunter and spam abilitys to get a 3 kd nothing has been so broken in pvp for years. I have stop playing. Is like playing against clones.
alot of the advice in this video is of its time and outdated tbh. not as useful as it could have been if you just did new interviews rather than reposting
Just repeat over and over while playing PvP: Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. My goodness and my fortress... my high tower and my Deliverer. My shield, and he in whom I trust.
I think the main reason that people play pvp in destiny is that it’s really unbalanced and the pvp focused players get to crush the PvE focused players when they have to go in after some weapon or whatever. Honestly there are much better first person shooter pvp games
incredible video but i had one issue that kept bothering me, why were so many of these questions about snipers? maybe a large part of the community asks about that and im just out of touch, or maybe the original videos were about snipers? I don’t know it just kept happening lol
First step to becoming better requires you to adapt to the constant nerfs/buffs....which is alot of time. And then it just doesnt work because you got fools cheating, taking advantage of their flaws which gives the regular player a terrible odd to have a decent time. Not winning but having a decent time. All that's cancelled.
Best tips are : Equip a shotgun at all times, (especially unconditional finality if u have it) compliment it with an op unbalanced primary like summoner, khovostov, igneous etc and spam cheap abilities. Voila! Up goes kd unless you have no thumbs.
An affective approach is that perfect zone of experiencing challenge but still having fun. The more FUN you are having, the more you want to come back to play, and practice is what truly enables improvement.
Thank you 🙏🏼….all of you I have been playing this game solo for so long yes I made friends and join a few clans but it never works out the way I want. I’m trying my best to get better at PvP when you guys make this kind of content I’m always watching studying… I think for me the biggest thing I need to improve on is movement, aiming, and peak shooting. One day hope to come across one of y’all the destiny world until then God Bless and thank you guys again for all you do.
1) if you plan on getting better at PVP: you won’t be the same player at the end of your journey compared to when you started. In short; choose meta weapons that are best in slot and fit your play style. You will adjust and be better for it in the long run. 2) when he mentions cover and escape routes. He means “game sense” You get this from hours and hours of pvp. Map knowledge, radar manipulation, and slide shooting and laning are all important things you will get better at the more you play. A lot of times you aren’t losing because the other person is faster it’s cus they’re smarter and have better game sense form experience.
I prefer the firebreak mindset myself. I am a Titan Main of a decade and I try and find the spot I can cause the most damage and hold that position until I die. Some times it works. sometimes it doesn't. However I know I'm a pain in the ass to fight because I've been told I'm "oppressive and unrelenting once I set my sights on a target." And you can't be bad at PVP and piss the enemy team off bad enough for them to chase your ass around the map. It's honestly hilarious because I usually run them into my teammates.
There are also other factors like your whole set up. Are you on console or pc? Are you playing on a tv or monitor? What size? Then there are settings for everything. Are you on WiFi or EC? What is your ping? You have to take into account these factors as well everything mentioned in the video as you are competing against players who not only have many hours of experience in the game but who have the best setup too.
Everyone has something that they need/can work on in their game , i personally was really good mechanicly in both aim and movement but i was pretty much trash in almost everything else , i was the kind of player that would win 90% of 1v1s and be completely useless on everything else for my team , something that i personally found really helpfull was bringing a mentality from League of Legends into D2 PvP of the "annoying prick" , long story short everything you do will cause a reaction from the enemy so you use something like that to manipulate the match into a better state for you and your team even if you are the one to go down first , chip shots - annoying angles - peek baiting- wasting opponents time and my usual favorite of the overachieving kamikaze where you intentionally go into unfavorable fights for you but in that you chunk enemies or even get atleast one kill and make the opponent over-focus you to shut you down thus making them easy targets for your teammates. Edit- i dont know if this will help anyone but because i am naturally good at aiming and i enjoy PvP i used to unintentionally play in autopilot , i know it sounds dumb but when you play with intention it makes a whole lot of diffrence , there is a diffrence between getting in the zone and letting yourself play naturally and spawning in and playing as a dumb auto-aim turret
I recently got good at pvp from like playing PvP for like a couple months on and off then daily. I loved the trust so I used it alot( even have a “god roll”) now I use ace or like the rose and it’s been coo😂
I say focus on playing a comfortable meta something your good at weapon wise, play your range, slowly increase your sensitivity while keeping your aim tight, try to not get hard focused on kills and instead try to just outplay.
my best advice for newer players, and comin back to the game - do weeklies, dailys, i.e bounties, smash thru strikes, and vanguard quick plays, you gonna get faster, then jump into gambit maybe, and slowly slide into crucible
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i really felt how time passed when physics spoke about "top tree dawn", "double dash warlock" and "titan stasis melee being faster" this seems so old to me lol
Haha yeah that one was a throwback at this point.
Best PVP players: Objective game modes, camp the objective to rack up kills. Competitive game modes: Use meta weapons depending on the map and engagement distances with a shotgun, don't peek, and team shoot. There you have it, its really that simple. There are only a few players that dominate content creators and they beginning to arrive on RUclips. The creators we are used to seeing are in the same league as some of these players I have recently discovered.
this is just what I needed as a returning player!
play more PVP if you want to be better.
I think my first step to getting better is probably just playing pvp outside of the occasional trials card 😂
Get atleast three games of comp in. Stop after three or five losses. After three or five losses, be done for the day. Get your regular control games in to learn map sense.
For sure dude. And if you can clip your games and watch some of your best and worst matches to see why you won certain engagements and lost others. Sometimes it’s helpful to see things when you’re not mid match and can pay more attention to
Honestly I didn't pass the learning curve until I hit about 20k kills. That's when I personally noticed a large leap in skill and understanding of the Crucible. My KDA massively improved from that point on.
My wife will never forgive me as much as that mercy passage does 😂
I'm just quitting pvp in all on destiny 2. Matchmaking sucks, always running into a sweat squad in reg or comp. Even trials is giving me the worst time of the century with putting me against 3-stacks. And it's like I'm getting 2-shot too by all their guns, when my gun takes 4-5 to kill them. I try to get better, I try really hard. But I'm always losing like this, and it's making me want to throw my entire setup away in the shed. These guys do give nice tips, but in general I'm not getting any better. Time to put up pvp, just go back to pve
I honestly wish I could relocate the radar. I'm legality blind in my left eye, so the radar is next to useless to me on the upset left hand side. Though I found a work around in audio based tracking and prepositioning.
That would actually be a good idea. Being able to move around the UI to fit peoples preferences more.
how do you release a video this far into d2 and it be outdated by 4 years, i like the concept, but the amount of work going into getting all these creators together is wayyy to much too keep up with the relevance of the sandbox, about half of these tips no longer apply, effort appreciated nonetheless
So, just to put my skill level in perspective, im generally in the top 1% of trials elo with a 1.9 for most seasons (i started d2 at a .88) . And ive helped several of my clanmates significantly improve their kds.
What ive learned doing that is you can usually break pvp up into 3 broad catagories. Gun skill, reaction time, and information interpretation.
Gun skill is pretty simple, get a gun you like that's competitive and practice, it's just muscle memory, and that takes time. Some ppl adjust better than others and can adjust to a lot of guns others are better specializing in a few.
Information interpretation is harder because it's a matter of multi-tasking and experience. My best tips here are learn the radar within an inch of its life, its as much a tool for your information as it is one to give disinformation to your opponents, and sound is your second best friend, change audio settings so you can at least hear jumps, and footsteps if you wanna take it that far. Between sound and radar, you canknow whats going on and where at almost all times.
Reaction speed is the toughest. It's s. Combination of the first two to make the right decision as fast as possible and be able to execute. And your own personal physical reaction speed, unfortunately, while you can mitigate the reaction time with knowledge and skill, your reaction speed will be a hard limit. I have a friend who has tge knowledge and gun skill but cant process the information fast enough to react to it in real time, though he has improved substantially.
Of course there's a hundred little things.
You’re pretty spot on with this analysis. Very well stated.
I do have unfortunate news for younger gamers: reaction time increases (that’s bad) as you age, no matter how much you practice or how naturally talented you might be. This is true for how quickly one can physically respond to ANY sensory stimulus, whether it’s getting to the brakes to slow/stop your car, or moving the sticks and buttons on a video game controller.
I suggest players focus on the second of the three key components listed by @razaiel - Information Interpretation. That skill won’t degrade as you age. Reaction time will degrade.
my “it’s not meta, but i can’t let go of it” gun will always be mida multi tool. It just always feels right.
Im right there with you. Tried the new khvostov for a day, and i just missed my multi-tool so much
Mida is pretty good right now in this meta. I’ve been running it with my knucklehead radar setup and it puts in work!
@banksy_gg but why, they both give you radar
Mida just feels good man.
@@KingShibeBecause knucklehead puts crosshairs on the enemy and you can see them behind cover and know when they will peak again or run away.
@18mins, That's one of the best things I learned from watching Gold - how he just knows instantly to run from an engagement. Cut your losses and know when to quit and run, survive more fights. I realize that's part of the reason 'pros' almost never compromise 100 Recovery, and why so many people can never let go of Stompees/Transversives/Dunes. Turns out running away, and getting back in just as fast is one of the key fundamentals.
I think I got my first few We Rans from re-wiring my brain to do that, and that's when PVP in this game reaaally clicked for me.
Very real - this is probably one of the most important things to understand and execute to be more of an asset to your team and yourself
I absolutely agree with this. I’m just returning after a long long break and this has been my biggest goal with getting back in the crucible the last week. Got my first two we rans from applying the same principle
Agree, so many people go on a "mini tilt" moment and continue the push or hold and die. Knowing when to push and when to run is powerful when you combine that with map and radar awareness. I don't always drop tons of kills. Some matches less then ten...but I never pull less then a 2.0 CE and I carry currently a 2.57 Seasonal CE. It's listening to that voice that's says run and drop the pride lol.
I'm overly aggressive in comp and trials. I can't solo flawless or win more than one or two in a row in comp or trials. Control and the other 6 man modes I dominate most of the time.
Well said. Being able to recognize - very quickly - when you’re losing a duel, and *also* being able to escape (either via abilities or just plain good positioning) is a BIG important skill that many players overlook. K/D ratio has both a numerator and a denominator. Increasing your number of kills doesn’t matter if your death rate also increases simultaneously. It isn’t as “sexy” as a kill streak, but a “staying alive” streak is just as meaningful on the battlefield. Every time you KO, you are hurting your team, even if you manage to do something positive in the process.
There's no way anyone can make a video about mastering PVP in Destiny 2 when Destiny in itself is broken and unbalanced.
One thing that’s been a problem since the beginning is the lunge. You can be doing some ninja shit an get hit with a bot ass melee from across the map
Like if I’m above your head and almost all the way behind you. You should NOT be able to do a tracking 180 10 foot lunge melee
Listening through now, in the section where you're talking to castle. I was thinking "maybe I don't need to listen to this video- I've seen all the interviews when they first came out." And then I hear you talking about playing too much pve, leveling, getting gear, etc, and how then you just feel bad at pvp until you go back to spending all your time in it. And I'm dealing with that EXACT same thing right now. Yeah I need to be reminded. That's the great thing about tips like this... Even when you've heard them before, even when you've improved some, you go back and get reminded of fundamental important things and it feels fresh again.
I did what you guys suggested just playing more PvP and wow, a few days of consistent PVP has helped me so much improving my numbers! You can't be instantly good at everything and I have to remind myself of that.
You should totally do podcasts like this. Love to hear how people play the game and your interview style suits it so well! Listening to this at work so i'm missing all the gameplay but still enjoying the video so far! Keep em coming!
If you haven’t seen it, I have a whole playlist of full length interviews like these in the description
@@PattycakesGaming seen a bunch of them over the years 😅 Your videos with Time are really inspiring. I get bored of watching the usual HC shotty gameplay so off meta content like that is really enjoyable!
I couldve sworn i seen this video last year
Yeah nah Pvp is terrible in this game.... Its genuinely terrible like usually its funny how bad it is but nah nothing funny about this at all....
Illphysics giving advice on improvement when he self destructed his own community with pure ego is pure comedy
Maybe he grew up
what did he do
Sounds older based off the jargon. Top tree hasn't been in the game in a long time so this might've been moments before disaster?
Generally speaking, the best at "input skill" tend to be shitty people. They get noticed more for it however and the other billions of shitty people go under the radar simple due to their irrelevance.
19:28 I know some readers might laugh at this, but I actually think it’s important for Destiny content creators to either stop using the phrase “play your life”, or instead be very specific and deliberate about what “play your life” means, every time you say this.
I feel like the “play your life” phrase goes right in one ear and out the other for many individuals. They have some sense that the phrase means something akin to “be careful”… but then they just ignore that thought and full-send an aggressive and/or stupid play, regardless.
I know that “don’t die purposelessly” is the intent of “play your life”… but I also know that does not register for some decently-sized chunk of the PvP population. We really should ditch “play your life”, in favor of something like, “don’t play stupid/recklessly” or “don’t throw the match by acting impulsively”.
My suggested alternatives stink, but there NEEDS to something clearer than “play your life” for a lot of players.
I love these kinds of videos. I always try to look for ways to improve in PVP. The only problem is I don't know what kind of PVP player I am. Am I bad, decent, or good is something I have trouble evaluating about myself.
I tried posting videos but never got any replies, so I am stuck in limbo 😂😂. I think I am an average PVP player at the very least.
Whether you PvP or PvE gotta respect great videos from patty. Especially during maintenance! ❤
Regardless of who can give what advice, the best advice I ever got was to adjust settings to turn on auto punch and shoot on, and the true centre aim adjust setting to on. The rest comes with time spent in the game mode. I only started pvping for iron banner gear literally this past week properly, I've avoided pvp for most of my destiny life as I suck at it, yet shockingly trying to get iron lord and spending hours doing it, I'm sitting around 3.0 - 3.5 each game now from about a 1.5 at best.
d2 pvp sucks and i quit the game as a whole because of it even if i love the game itself.
why?
aim assist, ability spam, too fast paced combat, too much sweats, too grindy, same re-used or re-skinned content over and over aggain
I only have around a 2kd I'm so bad man and istg every time I touch crucible the weapons I prefer get worse and worse each update
This video is so good. Thank you. I love how positively each person speaks on the game too. It’s not fun to die but sometimes it’s really entertaining to play against other good players.
Step 1: Crutch META no matter how cheesy
Step 2: Profit
JizzSock speaks the truth
Just like Jesus
100% true
The clip from 2:05 with armor mods 🫢 that one going to confuse the new lights 😂
lol how things have changed
Idk about y'all, but I feel like sniping has fallen off a cliff this season. Like, I just don't see ANYONE sniping. It's all shotguns. Conditional, matador, Someday, pretty much all I'm seeing are shotguns. Personally, I've tried to use conditional finality, but I just can't jive with it. I always feel like I don't have enough range, and if I were using a matador or something else, I'd have definitely gotten the pick. I've tried to snipe, especially considering I feel like everyone has been SLEEPING on the new Embraced Identity from the pale heart. Enhanced moving target and enhanced opening shot are damn good together, and you can use it with Khvostov. Everyone has had beloved GLUED to their energy snipe if they're not using cloud strike for eons. And other than, like, occluded finality which is its own thing, I feel like Embraced Identity would be EVERYWHERE if shotguns and abilities weren't completely dominating.
Biggest tip, always follow behind your fireteam, always. For all shooters when you are queing solo follow behind and shoot the people shooting at the person in front, your KD will improve drastically :)
Just here because I suck at crucible I’m not having fun
Can we address the elephant in the room ? If you’re already a decent player at a 1.5-2.0 K/D player in trials or comp what happens if you match xim/zen console players consistently . Because there’s no real way to counter that and it’s frustrating . If your not rolling Stacked players it’s almost impossible
They are beatable, yes it’s frustrating and can be quite exhausting after a couple of games but it’s do-able.
HAVE A LOT HACHERS AND CHEATERS
Lmao no one can help me, doesn't matter what videos or methods I try 😂
the crucible is such a different environment than the pve. i barely touch the pve unless i gotta get a new weapon
I really like your content and I was a bit upset that in this video you recycle a previous video that I have already seen all of them on the other hand if I have seen them all and a few more years after they came out that means they are really good(Edit: I realized now that it was meant to be a summary video for all the tips, thanks for putting them all in one video and making it more accessible :)
Yeah I realize there’s a lot of newer players with TFS and most of them aren’t going to sift through like 30 hours of older interviews lol. But I thought it was worth making a summary of some of the best tips in a more easy to consume format for people who haven’t watched them all. Plus it’s a good reminder for people who have heard some of it before but haven’t been thinking about it lately!
@@PattycakesGaming Yes, it really reminded me of all kinds of things that I had forgotten and the truth was it was a good idea to make this video because I would probably never go back and watch all these videos because there are so many and they are too long so thank you at the end for the video it was a really nice and useful refresher despite all What I said (And thank you for taking the time to answer me, I really appreciate it:) )
Thanks for these, before I took a break after Beyond light these videos really helped me feel more confident in PVP and I even had clips to show my progress to show it was working. After coming back I've definitely lost some skill but here's hoping it'll come back, thanks Pattycakes!
Try different builds on different characters. I have thousands of pve hours up on Warlock, but found my best KD result is on Strand Hunter. Bummed.. 😑
Yes a lot of this stuff does help in game but the most important part of being a good player is the peripherals that Diffizzle brought up. The game becomes a lot easier when you’re using the best products and have optimal ping/fps/no ghosting. Invest in the best ISP plan for your area. The best and most compatible monitor for your console/pc. And the highest quality router. Pro gamers have the best hardware available and some of the lowest ping/latency in the game.
#1 tip: crutch the meta hardcore and never let it leave your hands, like a rat
Play like your the best player in the lobby 🙏
My problem - as a good FPS player (like cod or something else) is, that you really have no overview or can make use of your senses - especially sound. You dont hear enemies approach. The radar is not a help at all and that its going away while ads is breaking the whole information flow. Also i dont understand why titan or warlock melees kill with oneshot most times and hunters cant do it with 2. Its not like they are better in all other regards to balance them by crippling the melee. And i like to snipe. But to approach a nice sniperhit - you need a crosshair. But guess what.. you dont have one on snipers while not ADS.. only in ADS. The most weapons i dont like because of the zoom factor. On other shooters you have options for different zoom values to get conftable. In D2 its almost everythime too much zoom for my taste. Im not on a console sitting 5m away from the TV to need zoom just too see something. And i dont need to see the facehair of guardians just when ADS..
I consider me to bad in D2 MP - and its not like im getting better by margins. While in other fps i am pretty good and had a clan "wars" past.
I think it could be so much better in another way. But i also understand its a niche approach for FPS MP whicht others are loving - because its so different.
So i have mixed feelings about it.
:O
There's a lot of "new players" questions to a veteran, expert player. How often do you think he comes across new players? I think most of the time he probably plays against other experts and mid players, it would be unlikely that he would get matchmade against new players, right?
Jeez hearing this guy talk about PVP is why I stay away from PVP lmao. I don’t wanna chase a sweaty rat “playing his life” and “playing behind cover”. Bruh it’s a game about space aliens with powers go out and use them bro it’s not that serious 💀 (I’ve gone flawless dozens of times still hate PvP)
Console: play Hunter or Warlock for advanced maneuver perks.
or Switch to PC.
I never look at the opposing team in trails im banking that their stats are going to be better and its a 3 stack and I am a solo no mic and I had to completely change how i interacted in game trails i would be awe struck an my pride would be my biggest weakness but I really enjoy the ability to observe the way others are running stats or loadouts but I truly play as if I am going to sweeep every team and that aint none of them gonna have a chance lol wish I was better with manifesting that into the real world tho lol
You only need a prismatic hunter and spam abilitys to get a 3 kd nothing has been so broken in pvp for years. I have stop playing. Is like playing against clones.
If only hardware supremacy was available always. PvP is much more enjoyable without current ability meta spam
On controller, it's hard without having paddles on the back of your controller to take advantage of movement tech
alot of the advice in this video is of its time and outdated tbh. not as useful as it could have been if you just did new interviews rather than reposting
I was listening until war thunder. I guess I'll find something more destiny related
how to be good in pvp in under 5 sec explained: use handcannons ,use a controller also , or a special pen ;) , sad
Lol a controller takes actualy skills smh. Unlike a mnk smh. So keep your facts straight kiddo. Use a mnk*. There i fixed it for you.
Apathetic is just a player who stands in a rift and it doesn’t move at all I played against him before and he sucks just don’t get me wrong
There are better options.
New players should listen.
Get more in detail why.-
If you have a 3.0 k/d that means you are mostly playing against inferior players.
what shotgun is that paired with Ace of Spades? Crazy range.....
I dont expect to be to times better but i refuse to put 4plus hours in pvp. I would rather be more balanced
Just repeat over and over while playing PvP: Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. My goodness and my fortress... my high tower and my Deliverer. My shield, and he in whom I trust.
POPPY GET OOOOOUT
Wtf is this?
I think the main reason that people play pvp in destiny is that it’s really unbalanced and the pvp focused players get to crush the PvE focused players when they have to go in after some weapon or whatever. Honestly there are much better first person shooter pvp games
Terrible take icl
Just teach me how to use a fricken hand cannon!!!!
incredible video but i had one issue that kept bothering me, why were so many of these questions about snipers? maybe a large part of the community asks about that and im just out of touch, or maybe the original videos were about snipers? I don’t know it just kept happening lol
These videos are old af. These aren't done during TFS
Step 1: play hunter
Step 2: follow step 1
So be a coward and hide in the back that's corny af
In Asia/ANZ region you get gud by cheating with aimbots and wallhacks
Just get a Xim like everybody else
First step to becoming better requires you to adapt to the constant nerfs/buffs....which is alot of time. And then it just doesnt work because you got fools cheating, taking advantage of their flaws which gives the regular player a terrible odd to have a decent time. Not winning but having a decent time. All that's cancelled.
Best tips are :
Equip a shotgun at all times, (especially unconditional finality if u have it) compliment it with an op unbalanced primary like summoner, khovostov, igneous etc and spam cheap abilities. Voila! Up goes kd unless you have no thumbs.
An affective approach is that perfect zone of experiencing challenge but still having fun. The more FUN you are having, the more you want to come back to play, and practice is what truly enables improvement.
The netcode is why i quite D2 PvP😅
Thank you 🙏🏼….all of you I have been playing this game solo for so long yes I made friends and join a few clans but it never works out the way I want. I’m trying my best to get better at PvP when you guys make this kind of content I’m always watching studying… I think for me the biggest thing I need to improve on is movement, aiming, and peak shooting. One day hope to come across one of y’all the destiny world until then God Bless and thank you guys again for all you do.
1) if you plan on getting better at PVP: you won’t be the same player at the end of your journey compared to when you started. In short; choose meta weapons that are best in slot and fit your play style. You will adjust and be better for it in the long run.
2) when he mentions cover and escape routes. He means “game sense”
You get this from hours and hours of pvp. Map knowledge, radar manipulation, and slide shooting and laning are all important things you will get better at the more you play. A lot of times you aren’t losing because the other person is faster it’s cus they’re smarter and have better game sense form experience.
I prefer the firebreak mindset myself. I am a Titan Main of a decade and I try and find the spot I can cause the most damage and hold that position until I die. Some times it works. sometimes it doesn't. However I know I'm a pain in the ass to fight because I've been told I'm "oppressive and unrelenting once I set my sights on a target." And you can't be bad at PVP and piss the enemy team off bad enough for them to chase your ass around the map. It's honestly hilarious because I usually run them into my teammates.
There are also other factors like your whole set up. Are you on console or pc? Are you playing on a tv or monitor? What size? Then there are settings for everything. Are you on WiFi or EC? What is your ping? You have to take into account these factors as well everything mentioned in the video as you are competing against players who not only have many hours of experience in the game but who have the best setup too.
those Shadow bow clips were crazy
That thing was so insane
Everyone has something that they need/can work on in their game , i personally was really good mechanicly in both aim and movement but i was pretty much trash in almost everything else , i was the kind of player that would win 90% of 1v1s and be completely useless on everything else for my team , something that i personally found really helpfull was bringing a mentality from League of Legends into D2 PvP of the "annoying prick" , long story short everything you do will cause a reaction from the enemy so you use something like that to manipulate the match into a better state for you and your team even if you are the one to go down first , chip shots - annoying angles - peek baiting- wasting opponents time and my usual favorite of the overachieving kamikaze where you intentionally go into unfavorable fights for you but in that you chunk enemies or even get atleast one kill and make the opponent over-focus you to shut you down thus making them easy targets for your teammates.
Edit- i dont know if this will help anyone but because i am naturally good at aiming and i enjoy PvP i used to unintentionally play in autopilot , i know it sounds dumb but when you play with intention it makes a whole lot of diffrence , there is a diffrence between getting in the zone and letting yourself play naturally and spawning in and playing as a dumb auto-aim turret
As always, very informative, various perspectives & play styles with great foundational fundamentals. Always love a PattyCakes video
I recently got good at pvp from like playing PvP for like a couple months on and off then daily. I loved the trust so I used it alot( even have a “god roll”) now I use ace or like the rose and it’s been coo😂
Great video, lots of great info. Thank you for this!
Did I understand correctly that one of these guys helps people get their first flawless in Trials? I just want a Hushed Syrinx! 😭
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I say focus on playing a comfortable meta something your good at weapon wise, play your range, slowly increase your sensitivity while keeping your aim tight, try to not get hard focused on kills and instead try to just outplay.
Nice i wasn't aware of the Hunter surfing thing thing (23:00)...thats pretty cool. Might have a chance to beat the locks to B for once😂😂
Anytime pattycakes post anything pvp related you know I’m sitting through the whole video.
what do i do when every solo queue team i find immediately puts me in a 3v1 (or 2v1 when i get a pick)?
First step to get better would be a working right hand. Or everyone to play with a broken one. I'd be fine with either.
My son Mikwen a pro halo player said movement both when dueling and moving across the map is key.
Man , I used to be good, then had 3 years out . NOW, man, so much has changed. I'm getting slapped 😂
i had a huge whiplash on the nomad talk when he talked about beyond light then i noticed this is just a supercut of all your interviews
Get hacks like most of these people
my best advice for newer players, and comin back to the game - do weeklies, dailys, i.e bounties, smash thru strikes, and vanguard quick plays, you gonna get faster, then jump into gambit maybe, and slowly slide into crucible
I play hunter a lot but most matches i don't use my dodge, how can i practise using it more?
I alWays do calls a penalty emote when there is a flawless title player on enemy team bc i cant get the flawless title.
With how important radar is, i really hope bungie addressses radar manip with prismatic
I know ads pay the bills, but I’ve never seen a Destiny 2 video with more ads
Tip number 1: Don't miss shots.
Tip number 2: 500mbps internet at minimum.Tip number 3 good luck.
Paralax trajectory, man i miss season of the lost... Good times for me and my clan.
Idgaf about the skill I want to know the fashion of the 3.0kd on the video
Sorry for my questionable rift placements :/
Simple play hunter
My shadebinder warlock on 18 mob :)