Doesn't matter how many "good and happy" videos they show, the second that they locked him in that box with no windows abd no light switch and no access to a/c and NO TOILET, made the rest of the nice videos null and void! Every abuser in the world is nice at times!
A lot of kids adopted from Asia are special needs, these parents were overwhelmed and made wrong decisions…they should have turned him in to the State custody years ago…
This boy isn't "special needs". He may have a behavorial disorder, but was doing well in school (calculus etc.). Hardly special needs. Children aren't commodities.They didn't have to adopt any children in the first place. Bad parenting and wrong decisions are just excuses. They are educated people, with financial means for the much needed therapy.
@shaunnal2560 Where was the real mother ?..why did she give him up? That's why he's mad.. Those people are not his parents. He needs to find his real mother.. And his real mother needs to give him answers.. That's why he's mad.. I don't blame him for being mad.. stop the fantasyland and get to the real reason he's bad.
@@saralyinn0519 RAD and ODD are mental special need and nothing the parents caused….odd its in the genes and rad is from early childhood probably in the Vietnamese orphanage
So I'm confused, is the child on trial? Are we seriously blaming the Childs behaviour for the parents locking him in a cell? LOCKING HIM IN A CELL! Also it really irritates me this child abuser gets up every morning and rubs gell through his quaff like he's going out to a date night
@demonsnfan Very good question ❤ From Germany. I was locked in our attic with a bucket every evening for 6 years. However, without air conditioning or heating and zero drinking. Reason: My drunk father sexually molested me when I was 9 years old. I suspect my stepmother wanted to avoid a repeat. I didn't know love at all, but I experienced verbal insults almost every day. I left home/prison at 14 and was treated like a real human being in the children's home (as we name it). I'm now 68 and I'm still treated like the guilty party by my siblings. 😥 I refused to report my parents, even though the authorities urged me to. It may sound crazy, but I loved my parents and wanted to protect them and at the same time stop being treated like a doormat. The pain my childhood never left me. 😢 But I became a loving Mom of 4 😊
I guess the defense thinks it is the only way to give the parents a chance of being found not guilty. Stranger things have happened, look at the jury finding Kasey Anthony innocent of murdering her daughter. Maybe she had gotten sick of her daughter getting so much attention, and she wanted complete freedom to party. I will never understand how anyone could testify for the dad knowing he did these things.
to say they're a weird bunch is the understatement of the year, they come across as being coached up to the eyeballs and totally unbelievable, not to mention phony.
@@maryb6672 so glad they don’t have innocent children in their “care” anymore. They keep talking about how the child has mental issues, but I think their behavior shows just how messed up they are mentally.
I’ve never wanted to write someone in jail a letter so bad in my life. I want him locked up and I’ll send him a letter starting with “Hey you big jerk/tough guy” truly disgusting excuses of parents to so clearly and openly be a safe space and attentive to some kids but not all. The pain I feel for RF at him having to know and see how well treated and loved his siblings are while he’s locked in a room where turning the AC on on a hot day gets him reprimanded. I hope nothing but healing for RF. I hope he has his own family when he’s older and the love and care is a healing experience for him. And if he doesn’t want kids then I hope he’s still able to heal and he’s getting therapy.
@galexiefaraway I wholeheartedly agree with you but I think you should edit your comment to remove his first name, in respect for the judgment regarding his privacy
Right? It’s so odd. What fascinates me is the Ferriters say this child was out of control yet in all the hours of footage, nothing to indicate this behavior from RF. You think they would have something, even just one incident of this child with a behavioral disorder having a tantrum or outburst. Nothing.
@Alina-ci3fb Well, he's been told that his behavior is "out of control" by his parents for years. I lied as a teen. I had a bad attitude as a teen. His punishment/discipline would likely encourage him to lie over small infractions, or he lies because he knows what his parents want to hear. Him admitting that he "always lies or is out of control" doesn't mean much honestly, it just means he believes that or tells people (like attorneys) what they want to hear
The only humane decent thing said in this trial was from the Victim himself “I felt inhumane but forgive them they made a mistake” the so called father hasn’t flinched or showed any wrongdoing. The mother cried once and flinched 6 times. Shame on these parents
The fact that they lied about it to child protective services and the police says it all. Why lie if you think you are doing what is needed. What excuse did they have for turning off the lights and air during periods of daylight and heat. There is no excuse.
Ephesians 6:4. Fathers do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather bring them up w discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord. This boy was locked in a cell. No light. No bathroom. Not a loving voice or kind word. Jesus please heal this boys heart and mind from this horrible experience. Amen.
This child had no role model to form his behaviour on. He was brutally treated. Never would it be ok to cage a person with food withheld light withheld nurture withheld stimulation withheld
What is the point of these videos? That he was let out of his BOX once in a blue moon so they could video it and prove they were good parents???? Give me a break! Makes me nauseous!
Yep, if I hadn’t known that she was a defense Psychiatrist, I would have thought she was testifying on behalf of the State! Also, that was a killer cross examination by the Prosecutor! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
And may I add that I think that not allowing access to a bathroom, the continuous isolation and the HORRIBLE way these people spoke to this poor child is terrible and WRONG.
Yep my son got into more trouble than this kid until about 12 years of age. He's absolutely fine, tip at school, no issues. That psychologist is insane.
@@stayhydrated8321 exactly what I was going to say! Both “parents” bash him for things that they are so much worse at being. They are typical “do as I say, not as a do” people…only they are too self righteous and arrogant to even realize it.
To me all these videos do is to show when given the chance the child was a loving part of the family. The problem is, that his parents didn’t allow that
I’ve been wondering if they adopted 2 children to seem like they are wonderful human beings? Only to behind closed doors treat the boy horribly. And it had to affect his older sister too seeing what they put him through.
The bad behavior of the child is a direct result of the parent's maltreatment. You need only look at the studies of solitary confinement on prisoners to understand what happened to him. The child didn't have a detachment disorder, the parents detached themselves from this child.
It is beyond me that the mother is not in trial. She was 💯 just as guilty. She locked her son in the garage room, she didn't reach out for help, she knew he had a toilet bucket. She is also guilty, guilty, guilty... Are we to understand that it's ok to treat your children like this as long as your not the biggest A-hole parent.
He requested for the separate trial because his wife lied on several occasions when the detectives were there and he wasn't present. Her lies would affect their defense if they were tried as a couple. He is convinced he is "clean" and faultless (LOL!). Hence the request for severed trials.@@deb-77d
why did the parewnts just give him love. comfort him.cherish him & makle him feel love? They adopted him whey would tthey not address pre exisating issues.... shame on the adoptive parents!
The defense's videos are just showing that he is a normal kid and not a danger to his siblings. All the things this kid got in trouble for at school or normal teenage behaviors
So, the boy actually has the same affect as the "parents" who were raising him. That's not a sign of an issue, its a sign that he learned his parents mannerisms.
It’s not uncommon for one child in the family (especially when one or both parents are narcissists) to be a scapegoat. I’m really glad these sorts of family dynamics are coming to light. So many suffer in silence
55:17 I don't think this is portraying what the defense attorney thinks it is! To me it sounds like ferriter's thought "this child was treated worse in the orphanage so he doesn't know better, why should we have to do better? THIS IS BETTER!" *NO! NO IT IS NOT!!!*
Physical means that he forced him into the box, which in my opinion he did, where it was by threats of other abuses or not standing down and away from the door before he closed it and locked it. In no way is locking a child in a dark room with no food, bathroom, bathroom and having locks on the door for months at is never reasonable as punishment.
I don’t recall any evidence of their church intervening and helping to guide Ronan yet they have priest sitting with them during trial. He’s just there as a prop for them to try to look good for the jury as far as I’m concerned. The video show Ronan being attentive and kind to sibling also.
My first thought when I noticed that is it could be to make an impression on the jury. But then again he looks like he is from India…. Maybe there to support Waleed (spelling?)
@Feebmyster I'm just now watching this trial, I've added a very long comment just today, about my own personal experience with my own child diagnosed with *RAD* As I've listened to the defense so far and over the initial days and hours of evidence presented, that was the first thing that caught my attention. *The defense is blaming this child* and giving permission to the adults ( I struggle to refer to them as parents), to do what they did to him. I'm disgusted!
They try to say he has behaviour problems at school but he stole a couple things, because he was given nothing. Like stealing a calculator! He probably was told if he failed math or didn’t do this or that he’d be punished! He can’t ask for a calculator or so he stole some sprinkles. It’s sad cause the teachers probably judged him not knowing he’s locked in a box at home😢
Love it that this evil and nasty man has been found guilty on all counts. Wife crying because she knows it is her turn next! For his lawyer to ask that he remain free just because he has somewhere to stay and will not be allowed to see the children, does not cut it, so was very pleased that the judge saw through that rubbish and put him into prison. I do hope that the toilet in his cell is faulty and he has to use a bucket. Well done jury you should all be proud.
I know! Every time I come her to watch the next day of this disturbing trial, I'm flabbergasted how they think blaming the child for his own incarceration is a legitimate reason for what they did?
Tim Ferriter is going to file an appeal stating 'Innefective Counsel'. He's tally marking every ''sustained" the prosecution is granted during Defense's questioning of witnesses, as well as every ''Approach'' to the bench. Guarantee it.
I've thought the same thing but he chose them. Their evidence goes against him, their witnesses go against them. His behaviour has no defense. The judge is stepping carefully too so he cannot claim bias later Edit. He smiles and laughs with his horrible attorneys...
Great judge and prosecutors! Shame on that defense duo!!! AND that friend from Australia.. sitting there supporting them and comforting the wife on the way out!!!!!! Would he have done the same to his children????
Tim's buddy from Australia most likely has been convinced by Tim that Ronan was a danger to their bio children. But I agree it SHOULD make him open his eyes if he watched the ring videos showing the systematic isolation and cruelty inflicted by Tim and Tracy.
The friend from Australia got to see what life was ACTUALLY like for that kid most of the time. He saw and admitted that the kid was dangerous. No one is trying to say that the way the boy was punished for his bad behavior was necessarily appropriate but it certainly wasn't torture.
Yes, also, he is threatened by the boy's intelligence. He is jealous of this boy and wants to let him know he thinks the kid is faking being smart at school. This is a man-child bully. He sickens me.
Previous days I've seen the 'mothers' tears as possible remorse. Today, I see it for the truth it is, a belief they're being persecuted, victimhood. Shame smh
I didn't like the answer about food. it is known food gives dopamine and so it's typical for depressed children to eat food especially things like chocolate because it gives them comfort and happiness they don't get without.
How does the adopted mother get to be in the court room if she will be tried also. Also how does Tim keep getting to turn around and talk to her. That shouldnt happen.
@@scatterbrain_jane no. I didn't watch that. I'M concerned with cases that matter. Not celebrity distraction and inconsequential bickering. Though, I'm sure it was entertaining.
I feel like the female defense lawyer either doesn’t know the law or is trying to get away with stuff that she knows isn’t allowed. Either way it comes out seeming desperate.
Defense is trying to introduce expert opinions they did not disclose prior to trial. She knows better. She didn't want to give the State a chance to line up a rebuttal witness. But trials are mapped out. Each side should know what the other is going to present, prior to trial. If its truly about seeking justice for the victim, and wanting the right person to be held accountable, both sides should be adhering to rules of evidence to ensure the jury has all relevant information.
It's interesting the defense couldn't find any videos f the kids dangerous and bad behavior and instead played videos where he comes off as a very sweet kid
I understand the parents tried to get some help... but with minimal follow up. I feel like the medical professionals, teachers, and other professionals failed him. I can't help but believe if he had gotten the appropriate help and medications, and the parents in classes/therapy for a child with special needs, things could have turned out differently for all of them. Sad really, for the whole family. To those of you who offer a loving and nurturing environment to your special needs children. Bless you! I know its not always easy. There is a difference between offering a safe place to have a melt down and confinement of that of a prison.
I have watched many trials, and I have to say this is the first expert witness that I believe has not been biased on either side. In my view she seems very honest 🤷♀️
He is very sweet with his baby brother. He and his sisters talk like regular siblings that age range to each other. I was told he was a monster kind of feel jipped
Everyone is asking the same question but I’ve not seen any answers. The judge wouldn’t allow anyone who is testifying to sit in the courtroom before their testimony. So how is the wife allowed to be in the courtroom when her trial will be coming up after his?
I believe it’s because although they are having separate trials they have been charged together as complicit conspirators in the case xx the wife will not be testifying for the husband so she is allowed to be in court xx
You wouldn’t lock the dog in windowless concrete cell for 14 hours, would you?!?… this is horrendous, especially that those two look …”normal”?…But they are NOT
It's interesting how they made a big deal of the child's flat affect. The parents both have incredibly flat affects. A flat affect could simply mean the child has high functioning autism. That's not dangerous, uncommon, or anything to do with his personality. I find it interesting that he said something to "humiliate" his sister in class, they never say if what he said about his sister was the truth. I think that has a lot of baring on that situation...
He said that she was "ugly" among other things. Not downplaying it, but siblings do embarass one another. But of course, the word "humiliation" carries a lot more weight than "embrassment".
Also out of over a month they have what 50 hours of the child not locked up in the room and the defense thinks that helps their case? They literally want to admit 50 hours of ring video of the kid not in the isolation dungeon they created and they think that helps their case
2:05:48 "As of today, I have made 5,000 dollars" Ooh that was terrible phrasing. Yes experts are paid and should be. She charges the same hourly rate as the State's expert. But he phrased it more professionally/ did not highlight his own gain as the big factor- She should have said "I've been compensated ____ for my time and expertise" not 'I've banked 5k '
@@saralyinn0519writing notes that are never gonna see the light of day. I think it’s so funny when I see him scribbling away like anything he’s writing is gonna mean anything lmao
People should be really concerned about the blatant disregard this judge shows towards the laws that are on the books, and the definitions of words like malicious, and physical.
Does anyone know if they still have their other kids? I know they didn't treat them the way they treated poor Ronin, but wouldn't CPS still be required to remove them just because of this case and the allegations alone?
@mariadavis8745 Thanks for the clarification😊 I figured CPS would remove them just based on the allegations alone, but I wasn't sure since they didn't treat their own kids the way they did poor Ronin. I pray they lock both of these disgusting, vile monsters up & throw away the key & two thumbs up to CPS for removing the other kids from their custody bc it's crystal clear that they can't be trusted with ensuring the well-being of a child(ren).
I find it absolutely nauseating that these horrible individuals are happy to brand their child as a psychopathic potential murderer in order to save their own sorry ar***. I often wonder if we underestimate the human body's instincts as regards reproduction, some people are just not fit to be parents, i suspect its natures attempt to ensure the safety of children by rendering particular individuals infertile.
The State did an amazing job with this horrific case. Judge is fantastic! The defense has made everything worse, if that’s even possible! And, what was the point of showing those videos? Absolutely zero interaction with their son! More interest in football than their son. I think from listening, it made the jury’s job even easier. GUILTY!! Shame on these two “parents”.
What i cannot fathom is the sheer volume of video footage and audio. This is no way to live. This is like a Big Brother house. The footage used by the State puts the defendant in a bad light and the "better" footage provided by the defense also works to the child's benefit because it shows that when he's given the chance he interacts normally with his siblings. These people are abusers through and through, sat there all self righteousness trying to prove the child is a monster who deserved the treatment he was given and even went as far as to cross examine his daughter to prove her a liar. Repulsive people who should not be allowed around children at all
@@scatterbrain_jane that part was crazy, wasn’t it? The whole time he was trying to one up the kid and prove how much smarter he was. Well, Tim was wrong! Anne Frank’s name was pronounced like “Anna”, not “Annie”. Her father’s nickname for her was a loving tease of Chatterbox. He asked Ronan if he knew what a Rabbi is. Ronan answered 100% correctly when he said a Jewish teacher. Tim tries to one up him by saying it’s like a priest. He was wrong on that one as well. Why couldn’t he just tell the kid he is impressed with his learning ability and encourage him. Tim is one small sick man. (I posted a response, but I don’t see it. Hopefully it doesn’t show up twice.)
One would think. This whole trial is nothing but listening to videos, which I understand, but it's frustrating not to be able to see any evidence at all. My imagination is working overtime.
I can’t believe the support this family has how any 1 could agree that what they did was acceptable because there is nothing in this world that would make these evil ppl did to that boy if they new what they was doing wasn’t wrong why did the schools the therapists and more than 1 therapist and more than 1 school not know he was locked in a 8x8 cell no access to the house without supervision not normal they need to be locked up for there behaviour narcissistic and certainly they join in the worst parents ever line up
Yes the child has needs yes he had times of behaviour Yes how the parents delt wih it was so wrong do they deserve to rot in a cell YES. Tiu would treat an animal this way.
This state attorney is ON TOP OF IT I love her she is not letting anything slide and I’m here for it!!!
I agree she is a good lawyer. What is her name?
Brianna Coakley, she's the assistant ada@@sundaychamberlain228
She is amazing! This is my first time seeing her in a trial , so I don’t know her name and have missed it when said in this trial.
She’s good but that voice……. Deafening……..correct!
@sundaychamberlain228 Idk about first name but the judge refers to her as Ms. Coakley (spelling)
2:05:31 Cross-examination starts. You're welcome.
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Thank you ❤
Doesn't matter how many "good and happy" videos they show, the second that they locked him in that box with no windows abd no light switch and no access to a/c and NO TOILET, made the rest of the nice videos null and void! Every abuser in the world is nice at times!
A lot of kids adopted from Asia are special needs, these parents were overwhelmed and made wrong decisions…they should have turned him in to the State custody years ago…
This boy isn't "special needs". He may have a behavorial disorder, but was doing well in school (calculus etc.). Hardly special needs. Children aren't commodities.They didn't have to adopt any children in the first place. Bad parenting and wrong decisions are just excuses. They are educated people, with financial means for the much needed therapy.
Absolutely 100% agree
@shaunnal2560 Where was the real mother ?..why did she give him up? That's why he's mad.. Those people are not his parents. He needs to find his real mother.. And his real mother needs to give him answers.. That's why he's mad.. I don't blame him for being mad.. stop the fantasyland and get to the real reason he's bad.
@@saralyinn0519 RAD and ODD are mental special need and nothing the parents caused….odd its in the genes and rad is from early childhood probably in the Vietnamese orphanage
Great prosecutor team. They are on spot! 👍
So I'm confused, is the child on trial? Are we seriously blaming the Childs behaviour for the parents locking him in a cell? LOCKING HIM IN A CELL! Also it really irritates me this child abuser gets up every morning and rubs gell through his quaff like he's going out to a date night
@demonsnfan
Very good question ❤
From Germany. I was locked in our attic with a bucket every evening for 6 years. However, without air conditioning or heating and zero drinking. Reason: My drunk father sexually molested me when I was 9 years old. I suspect my stepmother wanted to avoid a repeat. I didn't know love at all, but I experienced verbal insults almost every day. I left home/prison at 14 and was treated like a real human being in the children's home (as we name it). I'm now 68 and I'm still treated like the guilty party by my siblings. 😥 I refused to report my parents, even though the authorities urged me to. It may sound crazy, but I loved my parents and wanted to protect them and at the same time stop being treated like a doormat.
The pain my childhood never left me. 😢 But I became a loving Mom of 4 😊
@@wolke1955 Love from a Sister Survivor! ❤
Love from a sister survivor Ohio
I guess the defense thinks it is the only way to give the parents a chance of being found not guilty. Stranger things have happened, look at the jury finding Kasey Anthony innocent of murdering her daughter. Maybe she had gotten sick of her daughter getting so much attention, and she wanted complete freedom to party. I will never understand how anyone could testify for the dad knowing he did these things.
God bless you in life. I’m so sorry for what you went through. You are loved
I cannot believe the people behind him supporting Tim after it was found out what he did.
to say they're a weird bunch is the understatement of the year, they come across as being coached up to the eyeballs and totally unbelievable, not to mention phony.
I would think they are mostly family members. It’s hard to guess which family, since the parents look so much like each other. IMHO
Like his wife?! Whom should be co-defendant if you'd ask me...
There's something poetic (almost cruel) about having them watch videos of happy memories before they are locked up
Especially knowing they lost custody of all 4 children by the time of trial. Makes me feel warm inside.
@@maryb6672 so glad they don’t have innocent children in their “care” anymore. They keep talking about how the child has mental issues, but I think their behavior shows just how messed up they are mentally.
I’ve never wanted to write someone in jail a letter so bad in my life. I want him locked up and I’ll send him a letter starting with “Hey you big jerk/tough guy” truly disgusting excuses of parents to so clearly and openly be a safe space and attentive to some kids but not all. The pain I feel for RF at him having to know and see how well treated and loved his siblings are while he’s locked in a room where turning the AC on on a hot day gets him reprimanded. I hope nothing but healing for RF. I hope he has his own family when he’s older and the love and care is a healing experience for him. And if he doesn’t want kids then I hope he’s still able to heal and he’s getting therapy.
Agree!!!!!! 💯
Pray when he’s older finds a girlfriend she shows him the Love he always needed and love him forever ..❤❤❤
Worst way to deal with a child diagnosed with R.A.D.
@galexiefaraway I wholeheartedly agree with you but I think you should edit your comment to remove his first name, in respect for the judgment regarding his privacy
Well said ❤
Who records every minute of their home life? That’s just weird.
Right? It’s so odd. What fascinates me is the Ferriters say this child was out of control yet in all the hours of footage, nothing to indicate this behavior from RF. You think they would have something, even just one incident of this child with a behavioral disorder having a tantrum or outburst. Nothing.
@@waydagotcI mean the kid literally admitted on the stand that he was always lying/stealing/acting out/misbehaving, so I’m sure it’s true.
@Alina-ci3fb Well, he's been told that his behavior is "out of control" by his parents for years. I lied as a teen. I had a bad attitude as a teen. His punishment/discipline would likely encourage him to lie over small infractions, or he lies because he knows what his parents want to hear. Him admitting that he "always lies or is out of control" doesn't mean much honestly, it just means he believes that or tells people (like attorneys) what they want to hear
This prosecutor is so prepared and EXCELLENT at cross.!
The only humane decent thing said in this trial was from the Victim himself “I felt inhumane but forgive them they made a mistake” the so called father hasn’t flinched or showed any wrongdoing. The mother cried once and flinched 6 times. Shame on these parents
I find it very telling that Tough Guy Tim and his wife moved their adopted son out in the garage when they needed a room for their baby.
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RIGHT!!!!
That is not what they did! They could have moved him out there but not mistreated him!! 2 different things.
She only said it was telling. Nothing more. And she’s correct. It is telling. It says a little something about them.
The fact that they lied about it to child protective services and the police says it all. Why lie if you think you are doing what is needed. What excuse did they have for turning off the lights and air during periods of daylight and heat. There is no excuse.
Ephesians 6:4. Fathers do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather bring them up w discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord. This boy was locked in a cell. No light. No bathroom. Not a loving voice or kind word. Jesus please heal this boys heart and mind from this horrible experience. Amen.
Amen!
Amen 🙏🏾
Amen… and they are Catholic ….
Amen!
I think that psychologist did a great job for the prosecution 🤣
This child had no role model to form his behaviour on. He was brutally treated. Never would it be ok to cage a person with food withheld light withheld nurture withheld stimulation withheld
What these parents did was alienate the other children against this boy by treating him as a "bad boy".
What is the point of these videos? That he was let out of his BOX once in a blue moon so they could video it and prove they were good parents???? Give me a break! Makes me nauseous!
Exactly. There’s way more video of him in his box that out.
this is one of the best broadcasted trials in RUclips history… sound, picture and editing
Seriously. Not only that but them peeping out the children's name is so subtle...
No, the Depp vs Heard, was the best
@@renefourie881 just wasn't criminal
One of the best for sure,… I was so disappointed in the Letechia Stauch Trial that I couldn’t even watch ‘it was the worst 🤨
@@MitziHart I think I gave up on that one
That expert was not going to lose her career for these two parents and their defense.
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Yep, if I hadn’t known that she was a defense Psychiatrist, I would have thought she was testifying on behalf of the State! Also, that was a killer cross examination by the Prosecutor! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The videos just make the parents look worse, showing love to some children but putting one in a box.
Being a parent is the hardest job there is. But it is your moral and legal and ethical obligation to get help if you can’t do it well.
Judge to defendant: “You made a decision to plead not guilty and proceed with the trial” 😂, “now you need to decide if you testify or not”.
Best Judge I've ever seen!!! He is extremely intelligent and very patience!
I say the same thing
The wife is getting to see into her own future in her husbands trial.
So let's play let's show the neighbors how awesome we are before we lock our son in a box
Heard an attorney saying that the defendants Tracy and Timothy look so alike . Like brother and sister. I agree to that . They look so similar
Just another indication of their smug narcissism
It’s uncanny!!
False
I thought that too. Maybe they are brother and sister. 😊
@@alicetoyou448Yes, they are in love with themselves, so they picked someone just like each other.
And may I add that I think that not allowing access to a bathroom, the continuous isolation and the HORRIBLE way these people spoke to this poor child is terrible and WRONG.
Five year olds do still have tantrums at times so that is bs lady
Teenagers also
Yep my son got into more trouble than this kid until about 12 years of age. He's absolutely fine, tip at school, no issues. That psychologist is insane.
The “dad” was having tantrums at his old age
@@stayhydrated8321 exactly what I was going to say!
Both “parents” bash him for things that they are so much worse at being. They are typical “do as I say, not as a do” people…only they are too self righteous and arrogant to even realize it.
To me all these videos do is to show when given the chance the child was a loving part of the family. The problem is, that his parents didn’t allow that
I think they just don't like him. Was disappointed he wasn't perfect enough for their family.
I’ve been wondering if they adopted 2 children to seem like they are wonderful human beings? Only to behind closed doors treat the boy horribly. And it had to affect his older sister too seeing what they put him through.
Completely agree.
@nancyjackson8690 I completely agree.
This prosecution is so good she is on top of it...
Cross examination hit the nail on the head 🎉 go girl!👏👏👏
I can’t believe these parents need to be told it’s inappropriate and illegal to lock your kid up.
The bad behavior of the child is a direct result of the parent's maltreatment. You need only look at the studies of solitary confinement on prisoners to understand what happened to him. The child didn't have a detachment disorder, the parents detached themselves from this child.
It is beyond me that the mother is not in trial. She was 💯 just as guilty. She locked her son in the garage room, she didn't reach out for help, she knew he had a toilet bucket. She is also guilty, guilty, guilty... Are we to understand that it's ok to treat your children like this as long as your not the biggest A-hole parent.
Her trial is coming up. For some reason they’re trying them separately.
He requested for the separate trial because his wife lied on several occasions when the detectives were there and he wasn't present. Her lies would affect their defense if they were tried as a couple. He is convinced he is "clean" and faultless (LOL!). Hence the request for severed trials.@@deb-77d
@debsibson7071 his lawyer asked for the cases to be split 'due to his wife giving conflicting statements she made that may harm his case'
She's on trial separately. Requested by the defendants. She lied to the police about where he slept whilst the husband was out of the country.
I am understanding that she is out on bail and she will be tried separately
why did the parewnts just give him love. comfort him.cherish him & makle him feel love? They adopted him whey would tthey not address pre exisating issues.... shame on the adoptive parents!
The defense's videos are just showing that he is a normal kid and not a danger to his siblings. All the things this kid got in trouble for at school or normal teenage behaviors
Exactly. Was going to say the same thing. It shows what a great brother he was.
So, the boy actually has the same affect as the "parents" who were raising him. That's not a sign of an issue, its a sign that he learned his parents mannerisms.
BINGO! Nailed it!!
Even Worse! Treat some kids well not others? Seriously?
It’s not uncommon for one child in the family (especially when one or both parents are narcissists) to be a scapegoat. I’m really glad these sorts of family dynamics are coming to light. So many suffer in silence
defense: "but look sometimes the kid wasn't in the room & look how nice Tim is to other people!"
55:17 I don't think this is portraying what the defense attorney thinks it is! To me it sounds like ferriter's thought "this child was treated worse in the orphanage so he doesn't know better, why should we have to do better? THIS IS BETTER!"
*NO! NO IT IS NOT!!!*
Physical means that he forced him into the box, which in my opinion he did, where it was by threats of other abuses or not standing down and away from the door before he closed it and locked it. In no way is locking a child in a dark room with no food, bathroom, bathroom and having locks on the door for months at is never reasonable as punishment.
I don’t recall any evidence of their church intervening and helping to guide Ronan yet they have priest sitting with them during trial. He’s just there as a prop for them to try to look good for the jury as far as I’m concerned.
The video show Ronan being attentive and kind to sibling also.
The mormon church?
R they Mormon?
Misguided Catholics
They are using their religion to get out of a crime.
All for show, sympathy
Oh my God as the mother sitting next to a priest seriously… she put her kid in a box you’re beyond saving
My first thought when I noticed that is it could be to make an impression on the jury. But then again he looks like he is from India…. Maybe there to support Waleed (spelling?)
Evidently they’ve been pretty heavily involved in the Catholic Church for yrs. Lots of volunteering, donating $ etc. Hypocrites..
My thought also
Victim shaming galore and total agree the state attorney is not playing.
@Feebmyster I'm just now watching this trial, I've added a very long comment just today, about my own personal experience with my own child diagnosed with *RAD*
As I've listened to the defense so far and over the initial days and hours of evidence presented, that was the first thing that caught my attention. *The defense is blaming this child* and giving permission to the adults ( I struggle to refer to them as parents), to do what they did to him. I'm disgusted!
They try to say he has behaviour problems at school but he stole a couple things, because he was given nothing. Like stealing a calculator! He probably was told if he failed math or didn’t do this or that he’d be punished! He can’t ask for a calculator or so he stole some sprinkles. It’s sad cause the teachers probably judged him not knowing he’s locked in a box at home😢
I would like to see the body language team do a video on Tim’s reaction during trial.
His lawyer would have told him to stay emotionless
There is a team of 3 people that has published body language findings. Should be able to find via searching the internet.
My nine year old daughter is smarter than these “parents” she like wouldn’t locking a child in a box make his behavior worse.
I wish the prosecution had brought in an orange home depot bucket and kept it in the courtroom and placed it right in front of Mr. LEGO HEAD.
😂😂
Good one 😅😂😂😂
That would have been amazing!
Mr. Lego Head, lol!
Never brought up why make two trips to take your kids to the same school
This professional, in my opinion, has been the most beneficial and most understandable witness in the whole trial.
Love it that this evil and nasty man has been found guilty on all counts. Wife crying because she knows it is her turn next! For his lawyer to ask that he remain free just because he has somewhere to stay and will not be allowed to see the children, does not cut it, so was very pleased that the judge saw through that rubbish and put him into prison. I do hope that the toilet in his cell is faulty and he has to use a bucket. Well done jury you should all be proud.
I’ve never seen a more disgusting defense.
This lady attorney has a ice cold voice, like the so called parents have ice could eyes 😮
I know! Every time I come her to watch the next day of this disturbing trial, I'm flabbergasted how they think blaming the child for his own incarceration is a legitimate reason for what they did?
They are only doing their job.
Blaming the victim who happens to be a child for a parent locking him in a room? thats a disgusting 'job'@@brendaford5542
@@brendaford5542 I don't know who you are talking about, the parents or the defense attorneys.
I find it odd that the defendant is permitted to speak with his wife furing questioning in trial. I've never seen that before.
Tim Ferriter is going to file an appeal stating 'Innefective Counsel'. He's tally marking every ''sustained" the prosecution is granted during Defense's questioning of witnesses, as well as every ''Approach'' to the bench. Guarantee it.
Probably. He cannot accept his actions are indefensible.
I've thought the same thing but he chose them. Their evidence goes against him, their witnesses go against them. His behaviour has no defense. The judge is stepping carefully too so he cannot claim bias later
Edit. He smiles and laughs with his horrible attorneys...
It really baffles me the way you turn around and whisper with your wife (who will be tried next) as tho what yall did was great for that child
Great judge and prosecutors! Shame on that defense duo!!!
AND that friend from Australia.. sitting there supporting them and comforting the wife on the way out!!!!!! Would he have done the same to his children????
He didn’t see the videos where he was locked up due to being a witness. That might change his view
Tim's buddy from Australia most likely has been convinced by Tim that Ronan was a danger to their bio children. But I agree it SHOULD make him open his eyes if he watched the ring videos showing the systematic isolation and cruelty inflicted by Tim and Tracy.
As the saying goes show me your friends and I'll know who you are. They are all Birds of a Feather flock together. They are all the same.
The guy from Australia seen the cage in Arizona and thought it was a great room. With that zero credibility on anything else he said
The friend from Australia got to see what life was ACTUALLY like for that kid most of the time. He saw and admitted that the kid was dangerous. No one is trying to say that the way the boy was punished for his bad behavior was necessarily appropriate but it certainly wasn't torture.
2:55:06 Please. All the "tough guy" crap is Tim projecting his own insecurities about aging and feeling threatened by a younger man/boy.
Yes!!! That was my very thought!
I agree 💯
Yes, also, he is threatened by the boy's intelligence. He is jealous of this boy and wants to let him know he thinks the kid is faking being smart at school. This is a man-child bully. He sickens me.
Sounds like the defense is trying to play dirty sending over a 14 hour tape late last night to the state.
Previous days I've seen the 'mothers' tears as possible remorse. Today, I see it for the truth it is, a belief they're being persecuted, victimhood. Shame smh
So fed up with adoptive parents trying to fly the RAD defense. Such nonsense
I didn't like the answer about food. it is known food gives dopamine and so it's typical for depressed children to eat food especially things like chocolate because it gives them comfort and happiness they don't get without.
I agree, especially given the fact that it seems they literally gave him bread with peanut butter and a banana every freaking meal.
How does the adopted mother get to be in the court room if she will be tried also. Also how does Tim keep getting to turn around and talk to her. That shouldnt happen.
If the kid was dangerous the parents could have put him in a facility.
Oh, it shows him telling his lawyers, oh look here, here was a second of me communicating with Ronan. Wow.
I have never watched a case with the bench being approached this often. It's crazy
@@scatterbrain_jane no. I didn't watch that. I'M concerned with cases that matter. Not celebrity distraction and inconsequential bickering. Though, I'm sure it was entertaining.
These defense attorneys are such a turn-off
The wife crying makes me feel angry and I want to be sick!
OMG, the defense lawyer keeps wiping her nose with her hand!!
Gross 🤢
I feel like the female defense lawyer either doesn’t know the law or is trying to get away with stuff that she knows isn’t allowed. Either way it comes out seeming desperate.
Her voice is almost impossible to listen to for me. She thinks she’s clever but the judge isn’t fooled in the least.
Ugh. The defense lawyer speaks like an insolent 14 year old. And yes she is being underhanded/dishonest.
Defense is trying to introduce expert opinions they did not disclose prior to trial. She knows better. She didn't want to give the State a chance to line up a rebuttal witness. But trials are mapped out. Each side should know what the other is going to present, prior to trial.
If its truly about seeking justice for the victim, and wanting the right person to be held accountable, both sides should be adhering to rules of evidence to ensure the jury has all relevant information.
Nothing wrong with that female defense lawyer.
In fact, all lawyers on both sides are pretty good in this trial.
I could NEVER be a defense attorney. It’s too icky. No.
Id love to know what the psycholgist is thinking of these lawyers right now
It's interesting the defense couldn't find any videos f the kids dangerous and bad behavior and instead played videos where he comes off as a very sweet kid
They didn't seem to be allowed to show or really discuss the boy's bad behavior. That part seemed really strange to me.
If Ì had to represent him then that is what I would have done too.
I appreciate how subtle the name redactions are..
It's not the like loud AF beeping..
I understand the parents tried to get some help... but with minimal follow up. I feel like the medical professionals, teachers, and other professionals failed him.
I can't help but believe if he had gotten the appropriate help and medications, and the parents in classes/therapy for a child with special needs, things could have turned out differently for all of them. Sad really, for the whole family.
To those of you who offer a loving and nurturing environment to your special needs children. Bless you! I know its not always easy.
There is a difference between offering a safe place to have a melt down and confinement of that of a prison.
It’s crazy how you understand the parents and blames everyone else 🤣
I have watched many trials, and I have to say this is the first expert witness that I believe has not been biased on either side. In my view she seems very honest 🤷♀️
He is very sweet with his baby brother. He and his sisters talk like regular siblings that age range to each other. I was told he was a monster kind of feel jipped
Please help me figure out why he is able to talk to his wife.
They are both out on bond. It doesn’t seem right to me either.
He doesn't even need to show up. What are you talking about? Go read a book
Everyone is asking the same question but I’ve not seen any answers. The judge wouldn’t allow anyone who is testifying to sit in the courtroom before their testimony. So how is the wife allowed to be in the courtroom when her trial will be coming up after his?
I believe it’s because although they are having separate trials they have been charged together as complicit conspirators in the case xx the wife will not be testifying for the husband so she is allowed to be in court xx
You wouldn’t lock the dog in windowless concrete cell for 14 hours, would you?!?… this is horrendous, especially that those two look …”normal”?…But they are NOT
It's interesting how they made a big deal of the child's flat affect. The parents both have incredibly flat affects. A flat affect could simply mean the child has high functioning autism. That's not dangerous, uncommon, or anything to do with his personality. I find it interesting that he said something to "humiliate" his sister in class, they never say if what he said about his sister was the truth. I think that has a lot of baring on that situation...
He said that she was "ugly" among other things. Not downplaying it, but siblings do embarass one another. But of course, the word "humiliation" carries a lot more weight than "embrassment".
@@saralyinn0519 Ohmigosh, my brother used to embarrass the heck out of me with WAY harsher insults. You’re spot on with the verbiage, too!!
The parents have a flat affect because they are in court. They weren’t like that at home.
I never saw these parents show love to this young boy! (Or heard ) they only blame him for everything!
Also out of over a month they have what 50 hours of the child not locked up in the room and the defense thinks that helps their case? They literally want to admit 50 hours of ring video of the kid not in the isolation dungeon they created and they think that helps their case
2:05:48 "As of today, I have made 5,000 dollars" Ooh that was terrible phrasing.
Yes experts are paid and should be. She charges the same hourly rate as the State's expert. But he phrased it more professionally/ did not highlight his own gain as the big factor-
She should have said "I've been compensated ____ for my time and expertise" not 'I've banked 5k '
I dont understand why all this day to day stuff was recorded in the first place, does anyone know why they did it ? Its weird.....
Who knows? But it's for sure KARMA now 😅
Control. Even in court, he is busy writing notes. He wants to be in control and if he could, I bet he'd be there arguing his own case.
@@saralyinn0519 💯
@@saralyinn0519writing notes that are never gonna see the light of day. I think it’s so funny when I see him scribbling away like anything he’s writing is gonna mean anything lmao
DA was on point with the objections!👨⚖
Hmm immunity to harm a teenager for discipline. Ähm speechless
People should be really concerned about the blatant disregard this judge shows towards the laws that are on the books, and the definitions of words like malicious, and physical.
Does anyone know if they still have their other kids? I know they didn't treat them the way they treated poor Ronin, but wouldn't CPS still be required to remove them just because of this case and the allegations alone?
No the children have been taken away.
@@mariadavis8745 I hope this is true!
@mariadavis8745 Thanks for the clarification😊 I figured CPS would remove them just based on the allegations alone, but I wasn't sure since they didn't treat their own kids the way they did poor Ronin. I pray they lock both of these disgusting, vile monsters up & throw away the key & two thumbs up to CPS for removing the other kids from their custody bc it's crystal clear that they can't be trusted with ensuring the well-being of a child(ren).
state attorney is on top of it.
How many days is there before sentance. I dont want to miss that
I find it absolutely nauseating that these horrible individuals are happy to brand their child as a psychopathic potential murderer in order to save their own sorry ar***. I often wonder if we underestimate the human body's instincts as regards reproduction, some people are just not fit to be parents, i suspect its natures attempt to ensure the safety of children by rendering particular individuals infertile.
The State did an amazing job with this horrific case. Judge is fantastic! The defense has made everything worse, if that’s even possible! And, what was the point of showing those videos? Absolutely zero interaction with their son! More interest in football than their son. I think from listening, it made the jury’s job even easier. GUILTY!! Shame on these two “parents”.
What i cannot fathom is the sheer volume of video footage and audio. This is no way to live. This is like a Big Brother house. The footage used by the State puts the defendant in a bad light and the "better" footage provided by the defense also works to the child's benefit because it shows that when he's given the chance he interacts normally with his siblings. These people are abusers through and through, sat there all self righteousness trying to prove the child is a monster who deserved the treatment he was given and even went as far as to cross examine his daughter to prove her a liar. Repulsive people who should not be allowed around children at all
@@scatterbrain_jane that part was crazy, wasn’t it? The whole time he was trying to one up the kid and prove how much smarter he was.
Well, Tim was wrong! Anne Frank’s name was pronounced like “Anna”, not “Annie”. Her father’s nickname for her was a loving tease of Chatterbox.
He asked Ronan if he knew what a Rabbi is. Ronan answered 100% correctly when he said a Jewish teacher. Tim tries to one up him by saying it’s like a priest. He was wrong on that one as well.
Why couldn’t he just tell the kid he is impressed with his learning ability and encourage him. Tim is one small sick man.
(I posted a response, but I don’t see it. Hopefully it doesn’t show up twice.)
Could they show the actual video if the childrens identity were blurred?
One would think. This whole trial is nothing but listening to videos, which I understand, but it's frustrating not to be able to see any evidence at all. My imagination is working overtime.
I can’t believe the support this family has how any 1 could agree that what they did was acceptable because there is nothing in this world that would make these evil ppl did to that boy if they new what they was doing wasn’t wrong why did the schools the therapists and more than 1 therapist and more than 1 school not know he was locked in a 8x8 cell no access to the house without supervision not normal they need to be locked up for there behaviour narcissistic and certainly they join in the worst parents ever line up
Is that the mother sitting in the gallery watching the trial
Yes
I love this judge, he truly has the command of his court ~ no nonsense and keeps the trial going
Yes the child has needs
yes he had times of behaviour
Yes how the parents delt wih it was so wrong do they deserve to rot in a cell YES. Tiu would treat an animal this way.
Why the heck are the female defense attorneys pants so long?
Woops. Hubby and wifey don’t look happy with the recross.