Funny how he accidentally made it sound Scandinavian. While the whole joke was that the Norwegian does not understand it. Maar ik snap het wel, Nederlands is ook moeilijk.
In his post race interview WVA used the term 'a miscalculation' to describe what happened but was a bit evasive when asked if TJV has done enough pulling at the front. Lessons will be learned from that.
This was perfect today: started watching the broadcast, riders have just reached cat 2 climb, break isn't losing much, it will become a close one, I fell asleep and woke up 2km to the finish.
Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately. I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the climb, Trek's move seemed fine. But after that... I think it's nice to see, but frustrating for Van Aert to be 5 seconds short.
Yeah, I think it's well known that the rider-most-likely-to-wins' team does the work to pull back a group. Looked like they just didn't ride smart enough. Time for the managers to get the heads straight. To me looks like laporte didn't want to put in the work
Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately. I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the
Weird situation for JV. They are clearly the strongest team (not even close). So do they just go out and try to win every stage? As it unfolded, I really thought they could easily bring the break back until 20k to go (they have the horses in this race with CH, TB, CL, and SK, let alone WOUT). My take is they don’t want to seem greedy cause they could conceivably take every stage except TT. I think if this was a Grand Tour, they would simply hand the GC lead off until the final week but with only one week, do they just let it roll and become greedy villains? Especially with relegation. I guess it doesn’t matter since Ineos, Bahrain and UAE chose their own squad.
I mean, it's not that bad for JV actually. As the Belgian commentators said, it's not bad to lose the yellow jersey because that means they won't have to work tomorrow and the team can rest before the important stages. Besides, Van Aert can win it back during the TT even tho he doesn't care about yellow. He's there to train for the green jersey and he actually took even more points on his rivals. He's there to gain confidence and winning the bunch sprint is all that matters for him. So I don't think it was a bad day for them in the end 🤷🏼
When jumbo look behind with 2km to go and ask for help 😂. I would've cried laughing if I was a rider behind. Are you mad? You done next to nothing all day and now you want help? 😂
i think,that the breakaway group working great together and Jumbo Visma find right pace too late.. That's good in cycling,not every time the strongest or favourite win,;-)
I think Jumbo didn't want to pace for WVA. They have to save their riders for Primoz. Today who had to work were the Ineos riders for Ethan Hayter and obviously, with only one team pacing, it's not enough. As someone who wants Uno-X to take off and get a wildcard for the Tour, I don't like TotalEnergies' victories, but this one was an exception. I liked to see something different and a 2nd place for an Uno-X rider it's always good news.
@@wanderalmeida9584 why??? Their leader is not WVA, it's Primoz. Ineos were the team that needed to attack if they wanted to win the stage and get that yellow jersey.
Was watching the placement tracker in the route map on the Dauphine website. Did I see it correctly? Seemed to indicate that Froomey went off the front of the peloton to attempt to bridge the gap to leading group, and then get gathered in and dropped for a bit, before he rejoined the peloton and got a respectable finishing place? Can’t find any reports or footage to support it so wondering if maybe the gps data was flawed.
Nah this doesn't prove it at all, Jumbo Visma just failed. They could have easily pull a Paris-Nice-JumboVisma on the crest - or at least burn Hayter and GC riders on the chase
Well they allready have proven a lot of times they can combine that. As race leader they'd have to control a stage anyway, which takes the same type of squad. It simply looked like everybody in Jumbo apart from their leaders was too cooked to work after the hectic riding on the last climb. If their main target would have been the green jersey, they'd have lost 2 or 3 riders by that point, because that type of support rider wouldn't get over the climbs either. Also the damage had been done before that last climb - once JV had the chance to take over handed to them by the other teams, they had ran out of road. We're only having this conversation because Van Aert is the rare type of rider you can bring to a Dauphine (or Paris Nice to a lesser extent) and have win the non-mountain stages. Normally you'd allways bring a climbers squad. He's allways going to be in a team with mixed goals and with less other teams around willing to work.
It's not as much as Jumbo-Visma making a mistake as more not them getting the help they needed at the end. The Belgian commentatiors were mentioned that as well because it seemed that the others teams were just thinking that if they would put in the effort, Van Aert would just beat them at the line
the other teams (trek, EF and INEOS) took the gap from 4:21 to 28 seconds though. they cant expect teams to help in the finish after wout winning yesterday
I love the effort on the "Dit is moeilijker dan de ZLM toer huh?", quite impressive hahaha!
Funny how he accidentally made it sound Scandinavian. While the whole joke was that the Norwegian does not understand it.
Maar ik snap het wel, Nederlands is ook moeilijk.
In his post race interview WVA used the term 'a miscalculation' to describe what happened but was a bit evasive when asked if TJV has done enough pulling at the front. Lessons will be learned from that.
I'd rather listen to Sean Kelly using that term.
You know when the gaps get mentioned repeatedly that it's gonna be a gold recap.
If only I could've watched it live.
"Just a casual 80-85km/h" my thoughts exactly lmaooooo
This was perfect today: started watching the broadcast, riders have just reached cat 2 climb, break isn't losing much, it will become a close one, I fell asleep and woke up 2km to the finish.
1:17 Fun fact Grøndahl Jansen actually speaks dutch
yeah i realised after recording that he obviously rode for jumbo visma (with groenewegen) so my joke fell on its face haha
@@LanterneRougeCycling Still funny though. Decent dutch mate.
@@simon6495 dutch is my first language and i didn't understand anything he said lol
@@qopiqq3629 Dit is moeilijker dan de ZLM-tour hè...
@@qopiqq3629 I’m dutch too and had to listen to it twice before i got it. That’s why i said decent and not great lol.
the amount of front moto the leading group had, especially in the descent was insane
So True and not first time happened in last weeks.
That’s what happens when there’s French teams in a break, in France
Did Jumbo-Visma make a mistake? They have the strongest team. They had the yellow jersey. It was up to them to bring the breakaway back.
Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately.
I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the climb, Trek's move seemed fine. But after that... I think it's nice to see, but frustrating for Van Aert to be 5 seconds short.
It’s awesome. Breaks being successful is waaay more interesting, it extends the race out to much earlier than just the big sprints & climbs.
Yeah, I think it's well known that the rider-most-likely-to-wins' team does the work to pull back a group. Looked like they just didn't ride smart enough. Time for the managers to get the heads straight. To me looks like laporte didn't want to put in the work
What a sprint and victory for Villermoz
Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately.
I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the
Weird situation for JV. They are clearly the strongest team (not even close). So do they just go out and try to win every stage? As it unfolded, I really thought they could easily bring the break back until 20k to go (they have the horses in this race with CH, TB, CL, and SK, let alone WOUT). My take is they don’t want to seem greedy cause they could conceivably take every stage except TT. I think if this was a Grand Tour, they would simply hand the GC lead off until the final week but with only one week, do they just let it roll and become greedy villains? Especially with relegation. I guess it doesn’t matter since Ineos, Bahrain and UAE chose their own squad.
I mean, it's not that bad for JV actually. As the Belgian commentators said, it's not bad to lose the yellow jersey because that means they won't have to work tomorrow and the team can rest before the important stages. Besides, Van Aert can win it back during the TT even tho he doesn't care about yellow. He's there to train for the green jersey and he actually took even more points on his rivals. He's there to gain confidence and winning the bunch sprint is all that matters for him. So I don't think it was a bad day for them in the end 🤷🏼
It’s an opportunity lost for a WT stage win. Even someone with the palmarès of WVA wouldn’t say no against it. It’s an easy win given away
When jumbo look behind with 2km to go and ask for help 😂. I would've cried laughing if I was a rider behind. Are you mad? You done next to nothing all day and now you want help? 😂
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True.... Lol
Great job !!
i think,that the breakaway group working great together and Jumbo Visma find right pace too late.. That's good in cycling,not every time the strongest or favourite win,;-)
6:14 what is up with that yellow jersey?? lololol
Vuillermoz too swole
HAHAHA
The moment you realize the last years second stage video was called "Stop UNDERESTIMATING the breakaway"...
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I think Jumbo didn't want to pace for WVA. They have to save their riders for Primoz. Today who had to work were the Ineos riders for Ethan Hayter and obviously, with only one team pacing, it's not enough. As someone who wants Uno-X to take off and get a wildcard for the Tour, I don't like TotalEnergies' victories, but this one was an exception. I liked to see something different and a 2nd place for an Uno-X rider it's always good news.
It was the duty of the team with the yellow jersey to control things, not Ineos.
@@wanderalmeida9584 why??? Their leader is not WVA, it's Primoz. Ineos were the team that needed to attack if they wanted to win the stage and get that yellow jersey.
Was watching the placement tracker in the route map on the Dauphine website. Did I see it correctly? Seemed to indicate that Froomey went off the front of the peloton to attempt to bridge the gap to leading group, and then get gathered in and dropped for a bit, before he rejoined the peloton and got a respectable finishing place? Can’t find any reports or footage to support it so wondering if maybe the gps data was flawed.
Yes, I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to follow Froomie's position. Saw him roadside in the Mercan'Tour Classic. He's looking good.
That’s the difference between Ineos and JV. Ineos domestics are just awesome giving all they got.
1:21 LOL that was hilarious
Do a vid on arnaud de lie
misjudged the breakaway group; lesson learnt
Or did Jumbo Visma proof today you can not target stagewins and the green jersey, if your main target is the yellow jersey?
its been done tho
i mean it was the nineties but it has been done by t mobile in 97 /w ullrich and zabel
Nah this doesn't prove it at all, Jumbo Visma just failed. They could have easily pull a Paris-Nice-JumboVisma on the crest - or at least burn Hayter and GC riders on the chase
And with Laporte/Benoot/Harper being substituted by Dennis and Kuss at the TDF, it’s only going to get worse for Van Aert
Well they allready have proven a lot of times they can combine that. As race leader they'd have to control a stage anyway, which takes the same type of squad. It simply looked like everybody in Jumbo apart from their leaders was too cooked to work after the hectic riding on the last climb. If their main target would have been the green jersey, they'd have lost 2 or 3 riders by that point, because that type of support rider wouldn't get over the climbs either. Also the damage had been done before that last climb - once JV had the chance to take over handed to them by the other teams, they had ran out of road.
We're only having this conversation because Van Aert is the rare type of rider you can bring to a Dauphine (or Paris Nice to a lesser extent) and have win the non-mountain stages. Normally you'd allways bring a climbers squad. He's allways going to be in a team with mixed goals and with less other teams around willing to work.
Is Michael Matthews injured or something? Why didn't BEx bring him?
Matthews didn't ride the dauphine
He was at Brussels Classic on Sunday
He's racing Suisse with Groves.
@Lantern Rouge Stop UNDERESTIMATING the Break | Critérium du Dauphiné Stage 2 2021
Интересная , но тяжёлая жизнь велосипедистов , такие виды ....
TJV doesn't like to waste time on flat surface
they're waiting for the mountains.
Может хватить недооценивать отклонения )
TJV as strong team but would force you to help them
You are the best
Это очень важно
Wow!
Van Aert is a comedian. He's glad to be out the yellow. He'll take minutes in the time-trial and win the whole thing.
IS sticky bottle with another rider legal ?
" i dont speak dutch" classic LT commentary
Good
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It's not as much as Jumbo-Visma making a mistake as more not them getting the help they needed at the end. The Belgian commentatiors were mentioned that as well because it seemed that the others teams were just thinking that if they would put in the effort, Van Aert would just beat them at the line
the other teams (trek, EF and INEOS) took the gap from 4:21 to 28 seconds though. they cant expect teams to help in the finish after wout winning yesterday
@@LanterneRougeCycling Fr especially with wout in yellow
And they also mentioned the fact that losing the yellow jersey isn't a bad news for them as they won't longer have to work to keep it
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Great for Vuillermoz who had a couple of really shitty years.
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Wow
A 500m miscalculation. 🤣
go well
using the stage profile by "La Flamme Rouge"? Really? that's not on
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and victory for Villermoz
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