Is there anything the Riese & Müller Charger4 can't do?! | Fully Charged
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2022
- We visited the Rutland town of Oakham with Tristan to review the new Riese & Müller Charger4. The electric bike in this feature is the Charger4 GT Vario, which comes complete with a Gates Carbon Belt Drive and and Enviolo gearing, its most popular configuration. We explore just how versatile the Charger4 is and debunking the myth that this is a bike only for the city.
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I got the Charger 3 this year and love it. I do 30 km each way commute to work everyday and this bike takes the 150 meter climb on the way home out of the equation. Fantastic bike especially for someone like me who is not the fittest. Great commuter especially between towns.
Thanks for getting in touch, Anthony and so glad you're enjoying your Charger3. With 85Nm of torque and 340% pedal assistance, the Bosch Performance Line CX motor just eats up hills, doesn't it!
same, I got a charger 3 vario this may and got in 1300km by august. I've had electric bikes for 7 years now, and the charger is far and away the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden.
Tristan, you are a true connoisseur of Riese & Müller eBikes.
That he is!
Wow, no wonder so many people from the UK settled in and around my hometown - aside from the mountains in behind us, the landscape is very similar. As for the Charger 4, great looking bike. I love looking at it when I pass by the shop in my building.
Great video Tristan. Most times you really don't need a car. Just hard to convince those that think you do! 😃
Perfect and valuable review 👍
Thank you for your comment, Marten!
I recently bought a Charger 4 & it's excellent.
Do you think the GX tyres are necessary? or are the standard tyres already good for offroad terrains? would be mostly used on tarmac but with the occasional forest trail
I have a question about the Charger line; or all R&M models in general. When the Purion display is selected, the bike in general is paired with an Acros Headset with cables directly running into it. Whilst this keeps the overall look tidy, i have noticed that this allows an inordinate amount of water into the head tube, and you can tell that the electrics are not happy inside as they make a ‘frying’ noise. I have put a bead of silicone over the ports to prevent further water ingress, but surely this must be addressed by the manufacturer as it will severely shorten the working life of the bike. It is the only thing that’s keeping me from ordering a Nevo at the moment
I've had this bike since august, done 600km so far. Mine is also a GT Vario, but I have the petrol matt (basically blue in unfancy language) 56cm version. I'd agree with most of what you said, this bike isn't the best in any category, but it is very very good in every category, which is one of the three main reasons why I bought it, the others being the connectivity of the smart system, and the other being the expected low maintenance of the hub gear + belt drive system. There is one potential drawback I haven't heard mentioned though, the riding position is quite sporty. For me, it's not much of a problem, as I'm quite bike-fit from also having done about 1000km in the couple of months before getting the Charger 4, but I have heard complaints about numb handpalms from older people. Me, I also think I wouldn't have gotten the Charger 4 if I was ~20 years older, it really is a rather sporty bike.
All in all though, I'd say that it's one of the best products I've ever bought (so far at least), and I'm thoroughly enjoying how good it feels every single time I get on it. Even other brands that are supposedly quite good, like Gazelle, Batavus, Sparta etc now feel like flimsy toys when I ride them for a few minutes.
Thank you for your honest feedback on the bike, Rafterman and glad to know this is one of the best products you've bought! We hope you have endless hours of enjoyment on the bike and if you're ever in London or any one of our other stores in the UK, do pop in to say hi!
How tall are you? I am trying to determine the best frame size.
@@native-groove Completely forgot about this comment. I'm around 195/196cm and I got the 56cm frame. On the website they claim that the 53cm is for riders 1.80 to 1.95 and the 56cm is for riders 1.95 to 2.05, but even being on the shorter side of the 56cm category, I have the saddle raised quite high (visually at least). So I would say if you're on the edge of two categories, opt for the larger one. I have 2000+ km now btw, commute to work daily and the Riese & Muller part of the bike has been great. I have had some problems with the Bosch smart system though, where I sometimes have to restart my phone to find the connection between phone and bike.
Great video and well edited. Wish I could afford one of these. In a city it's just out of the question to lock something so expensive up ANYWHERE. It will be angle-grinded away in short time. P.s. it didn't sound too healthy in this video tho lol
Thank you for your comment. You do mention safety and security and there are very good locks available. With the Charger4 we would recommend either the ABUS Granit Extreme (which at Fully Charged we can mount onto the rear-rack) or a Hiplok D-1000.
With regards to the sound, the bike we were using for filming had a slight issue with it whilst going up the hill that was resolved as soon as we got to the top!
Thanks for the informative video. This could be the bike for me. I want a carbon belt and hub gears and had selected the Homage. However, being in IT, I want a bike with the Bosch SS. Thanks to you, I can see that the hardtail would be enough suspension for me and so the Charger 4 is a good fit. I would prefer to use my Android mobile (Samsung S22) as a display, so as to get the benefit of navigation. According to Bosch, one can choose to swap between the Kiox and the Smartphone and back any time. However, I am told that the cabling on the R&M has to be either one or the other. Is that right?
Hi Bob, thank you for getting in touch and for your comments... all very valid and glad that you're arriving towards the Charger4 as your preferred Riese & Müller. Obviously a man of taste. Yes, you're correct, with R&M you do have to choose a particular cockpit, with the Smartphone hub not able to be a part of the SS currently. Our customers have had very mixed reviews of the smartphone hub. We would always suggest the Kiox; some of our customers simply have a Quadlock and a Quadlock case and fit their phone onto the handlebar. Hope this was helpful?
My boss gave me a black Riese and Muller mountain e bike that has two bosch batteries called performance line CX and several other upgrades
Not sure how much this bike is worth????
I really like the look of Riese and Muller bikes. I love the Charger4, the SuperCharger (in mustard!) and the Tinker but I can't have them all sadly. I'm still trying to make a decision,but will probably go for the SuperCharger with the Rohloff system (I don't really need it, but I'm a tech geek and just like it). However, I do have a question based on recent observations: Whilst I am not that into full on eMTB bikes, hence the Delite isn't on my radar, I have noticed that the reviews of eMTBs never seem to figure Riese and Muller bikes into the head-to-head comparisons. It's the usual suspects every time; Scott, Trek, Specialised, et al. Why is that? Is it that the eMTB aficionados don't rate R&M? If not, why not? Any and all opinions gratefully accepted here. Thanks.
Hi Nigel, thanks for getting in touch. Great to hear you're as much of a fan of Riese & Müller's eBikes as we are! The SuperCharger is an epic eBike and the Rohloff technology is generally regarded as the most durable gearing system. You're right about Riese & Müller rarely featuring on eMTB reviews. The Delite Mountain is considered to be the flagship eMTB model. Even though many of their eBikes feature their Control Technology package, they are geared towards off-road trekking and bridleway style terrains, with the suspension focused around comfort as well as performance. If you are interested in eMTBs, we stock a number of models manufactured by Moustache. Being an eMTB specialist brand, they have a plethora of different off-road options. You can find our review with eMTB rider Alexia Desile here: ruclips.net/video/F6GzwZak-I8/видео.html
which exposure light do you use ??
The supernova mini 2's. Only the best for Riese & Müller! Thank you for reaching out!
What's that drivetrain noise around 4:30? Sounds almost like bottom bracket creaking.
Thank you for your comment, John. It was the chain guard catching on the pedal from the Tern GSD we were using for filming with both Jake and Henry on the bike! We resolved the issue as soon as we came back down the hill but unfortunately the light was fading so we had to keep this little segment in. Our apologies, John. As ever, all a learning process.
Hi, Great video. I want to swith my old bike for something like this. Could you tell me how does this "belt" behavior in winter (snow, salt). I dont know what is better belt oraz chain. I drive to work all year and this is very imprtant info for me. Can you help to make a right decision?
Ah no worries! Of course, that's why we're here. Yes, belts would be preferable in the snow and cold.
@@FullychargedUK thanks a lot 💪💪👍😀
Hi there in England,
your trip and the explanation is phenomenal, but I missed one thing, and that was the price of the bike. if I want to buy this bike with everything on it, what will it cost me? greetings from tulip land. 👌🏽🙏🏼👍👍
Hey Falah, thanks for the positive feedback. Great to hear you enjoyed the video. The Riese & Müller Charger4 costs £5,099 for the Touring model. We realise buying an eBike like the Charger4 is a considerable investment but it's one that can actually save you money in the long run, especially when you take into account the residual value these bikes hold due to their quality and Bosch drive systems. It's a very versatile bike, so whether you were commuting or using it for grocery shopping, it's a great replacement for a car or train. We've made a video on how premium eBikes can save you money which you can watch here -> ruclips.net/video/AHcDgCJQkI4/видео.html. Whilst we understand that an eBike cannot do everything a car can, there are equally as many things an eBike can do that a car cannot!
Good review. The Charger 4 really is a great bike. However, the truth also is that compared to the built-in components the bike is roughly 1000 EUR too expensive.
Thank you for getting in touch! The Bosch Smart System brings with it a wealth of new features such as a lock system, an alarm feature, custom riding modes, a 750Wh battery, an eBike flow app, and more to come with over-the-air updates. We do believe that this alone warrants this price point, not least the other components that are on the product.
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The biggest thing holding me back on a bike like this is security. With an electric motor, something like an immobilizer would be helpful, but the reality is that you really need somewhere safe to park on both ends of a commute.
Hi Pete, thank you for getting in touch with us at Fully Charged. We have great news for you! The Riese & Müller Charger4 now comes with the Bosch Smart System. Any Bosch Smart System bike can have a lock and alarm feature fitted via the Bosch ConnectModule. This, combined with the Hiplok D-1000, an anti-angle grinder lock, has you completely covered! Check out our video on the new Smart System (14:12 on the all new ConnectModule).
ruclips.net/video/bABwzqzD5co/видео.html
A lot in common with Cannondale Tessoro X1
Is the CX motor very noisy?
not very noisy but it is the noisier motor from Bosch out of the range, a lot of people like it because you can here its power and know when to change gear... come and try one out any time you like.
Some stylish German engineering here..
Some very stylish German engineering indeed!
Does all ebike have that irritating whine?
Hey there, interesting point here about the noise levels of eBikes. As electric bike technologies have evolved in recent years, the 'whine' noise of the motor that you refer to has been significantly reduced at the middle to top-end of the electric bike market, with it only audible when the motor is working to power the bike up steeper gradients. At Fully Charged, we're big believers in Bosch eBike motors; not only do they offer long-lasting quality but they're range of motors are also particularly silent.
@@FullychargedUK , thanks for taking time out to answer.
Its' essential that your bike and phone are connected , BOLLLOKS .
IT COSTS LIKE 9K ????
Thanks for getting in touch. No, the Charger4 does not cost £9k. It ranges from £4,500 - £6,000.00
Der Sattel ist zu tief eingestellt😊
How about be affordable?
Hi Ryan thank you for getting in touch. Of course, there's no shying away from the fact that this might seem, initially, like a considered investment. Owing to Riese & Müller being what most regard to as the pinnacle of eBike engineering with only the best in technology and components, their prices do reflect this. You can find more about Riese & Müller and their company ethos here: ruclips.net/video/kr5bUQKOZlo/видео.html
Tristan does mention at 4:45 about the Cycle-to-Work scheme, which can offer a considerable saving to you over the course of 12 months. We have more information surrounding the scheme here: www.fullycharged.com/our-services/cycle-to-work-scheme
There is also finance options available to you. Hopefully that answers some of your questions and thank you for watching our content, it means a lot to us!
At first sight, it might smell a bit like price gouging, but take it from me as someone who did about 50 hours of research before ultimately pulling the trigger: these ebikes really aren't that outrageously priced when you add up all the parts, everything on this bike is premium, and no bike manufacturer has all this stuff in-house. Look for any ebike with the new Smart System consisting of a 750wh battery, a 85nm engine, and kiox 300 display and you're already not finding anything under about €5000. Then add the Enviolo continuous gears, the gates belt, the cane creek thudbuster, the suntour 100mm front suspension fork, the magura MT5 disc brakes and you simply get this price of nearly 6k euros. Believe me, I also looked to find something cheaper, but that was always with compromise. Every time I thought I found another bike to save 200-1000 euros, it either had a chain with shimano gears, or it had less advanced disc brakes, or it had cheaper and thinner tires, or it didn't have any front suspension, or it didn't have saddle suspension. Ultimately I decided to just go for it, just like there's no get rich quick schemes that work, there simply wasn't a bike of this level available for a significantly lower price.
The customer service of the London branch is atrocious. I suggest that before buying from them you first try customer service and judge for yourself. Such expensive bikes but horrible after sale service.
Hi M B, thank you for getting in touch. We profusely apologise that the service you received may not have been of the high standard we thrive to achieve here at Fully Charged. We'd be more than happy to hear from you if you'd like to either call our London Bridge store or email us? Your feedback would be highly valued.
WARNING about R&M Homage dual battery Bicycles and Bosch systems, look this after 5 months of use, first 2months I have to change the motor make noise now I have to change the Motor Bosch again make noise again, loose the eShifth very often,loose air in the back suspension shock,covers from the battery fall down on the street when I ride,Water get inside the switch (made in China) BRC351,tension spring get very rust after I ride on the rain,if I use 50psi on the tires it touch the screws in the front and back under the fenders, BIG MISTAKE to pay Cad$17000 for this shi... brand, this people here are pay by R&M to make that kind of comments about the brand me I am a REAL consumer with the REAL problems...
Who the F buys a Ebike for 8k+??? thats not eaven 750W?!?! What a ripoff! I could build a E-Motorcycle for that kind of money!
Hi Mr K, thanks for getting in touch. The Charger4 is not actually priced at £8,000.00 but instead ranges from £5099 - £5550.00. It also does come with a 750Wh battery, and the Bosch eBike System, with a Performance Line CX motor that gains you 340% pedal assistance and 85Nm of torque. Hope that clears things up
They're insanely overpriced bikes
Too expensive for average person made for the rich