NYXI Wizard Switch Controller Review-Wavebird 2 With No Stickdrift!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- The spiritual successor the the GameCube Wavebird, the Wizard works some magic in the form of magnetic hall effect thumbstick modules that won't get stick drift, and mechanical triggers and bumpers. While the controller retails for a reasonable $70 and I strongly recommend it, it has been sold out since drop but surely will be back in stock soon.
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2:03 Quirks and Features
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8:30 Weight, Measurements
8:39 Ergonomics/Comfort
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10:13 Dpad
11:04 Face buttons
12:30 Accessory Buttons
12:51 Thumb-sticks
14:37 Bumpers
14:54 Triggers
15:06 Rear Buttons
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You had me at "no stick drift" 😉
Yeah I really do believe these style of thumbsticks should be the norm, its a damn shame Nintendo is getting all the love in this department and Sony/Microsoft are still out here swinging potentiometer modules lol. Good times.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Sony and Microsoft won’t use HALL effect, coz then the likelihood of spending more on new controllers is reduced, that’s why they decided to sell spare modules for the new Dualsense Edge
@@JJB0310 yup
Sadly its false: At least when i use pc mode its a f$@2@ drift o matic: A complete and total waste of money
They are absolutely amazing. My personal review is different tho. The controller feels so damn comfortable in my hands. They need to tilt the connector slide so that the screen points directly at your face when your hands are at rest in your lap. There’s about 30 degrees of space to do that available on the controller with its current build. For future versions I suggest that instead of each side needing a usb-c plug to charge they should make the centerpiece more than just a plastic connection piece. It should be an extended battery pack to bring with you in case your battery depletes. This would allow home on the couch play to be longer sessions and it could also serve as a nexus to charge both sides simultaneously off of just 1 charging mechanism. You charge the battery pack and it in turn charges each side. It could also potentially have a wireless charging feature where you set it on a dock.
I ordered mine for the second batch before any reviews came out and I've seen a couple of middling but glad that you are thorough and liked them! Was surprised at SwitchUp which I usually trust being overly negative. I'm sure I'll love them as I love the game cube controller!
You can use the remapping in the system settings to get around the back button issue, if you wanted to set your left back button to A which is on the right joycon what you can do is set the screenshot button to A in the settings and then set the back button to press the screenshot button which is now triggering an A press
Found the channel because I'm looking for a new controller for competitive FPS (apex, controller on PC) to replace my razer raiju ultimate. Gotta say man you are hilarious, love your brand of dry humour, logical approach to very comprehensive reviews (e.g. scoring each section out of 5, simple yet effective) and generally informative videos.
That said I am yet to see a controller that I will get to replace my raiju, 2 years in and I have a surprisingly small amount of stick drift and love the mechanical faceration buttons. Keep up the great work man, hopefully one day we get a hall effect controller with good back button layout, mechanical switches everywhere that's comfortable in the hand.
Heard about this for the first time yesterday so glad to see you already reviewing it.
I want a good wireless controller for the switch that isnt too expensive and this one ia definitely one I'll consider and honestly will probably win and be my choice.
Although I do love the purple and it's classic nintendo look I'd like other color options.
I also don't have the time and patience at hunting down things that are hard to find in stock so I'm hoping this doesn't become one of those things that are hard to buy as then I'll find a different option
Comedic and informative, you’ve earned my sub.
Lots of great information! Thanks for the info. I’m waiting for mine to come in. My hands are little too big for the traditional switch joycons so longer gaming times my hands begin to cramp. I did like the GameCube layout for that reason. But all the other information is still very useful.
Get the Battler Gc controller that just released, it has everything a Gamecube controller needs plus it works 4 different Nintendo systems plus Ps3 and Ps4 with a magic ns adapter
Just ordered cause of you. Keep up what you do 💪
Incredible reviews man i subscribed
Much appreciated!
Another solid controller review
I'm currently still waiting (day 5 of waiting) for it to come into the mail, im so excited cause the gamecube was my FAVORITE gaming platform as a kid
Been waiting on this
Sounds like a great controller. Fan-damn-tastic review. Surely I'm not the only one that has to pause and skip back 10 seconds because I start laughing due to your comedic commentary.
Thanks Justin . I enjoyed using this controller and actually had a lot of fun making the review. I appreciate that man !
Wow, a 5/5 on the dpad! Curious your thoughts on other dpad options for joycon replacements on switch? I'm looking for the best possible dpad that works wirelessly so I can play some vertical games with the Flip Grip.
Yo!
I got this thing to stick drift.
I hardly used it until recently and I was using it for Smash.
Reached out to Nyxi for a return.
I'm inside of the 6 month warranty.
Switch allows remapping so the layout should be awesome. A and Y are where they should be and X and B can be swapped. (Using Xbox button analogy)
I saw another video that claimed that you cannot remap third party joy-con. Don't have first hand experience myself.
Also I would argue that many games other then fighting games appreciate a notched gate, platformers and Mario kart really appreciate it
Love the review as always! - if i'm not mistaken doesn't the switch allow you to natively change any button to any other button in the settings? on Joycons and official pro controllers? Someone with more knowledge than I should be able to implement remapping of any button on joycons to back buttons regardless of L or R controller
I will keep the 8-way, because I actually use it for racing games , and that's what I play mostly. But also I'll use it for every platform like Mario, kerby, smash, Metroid or anything else. Actually it's is for everything on Nintendo. Unless your playing Grand theft Auto, I don't see why the switch wouldn't use 8-way
Love your reviews. Wondering if you tried the Nyxi Hyperion controller yet?
Just a little comment as someone who's been begging for a good controller with an octagonal gate: I have some motor skill issues and cannot stay straight with analogue thumb sticks. This isn't an issue in some games where they have a bit of tolerance, almost like a deadzone, for some directions but there are plenty of games where walking straight forward or backward is completely impossible for me. I cannot get my thumbs to make and stay straight without looking at the controller. This issue is completely resolved with an octagonal gate and is one of the reasons why I love the GameCube controller so much. The other being that it fits my small hands pretty well. Oh, and you can definitely have fine control with an octagonal gate. You just gotta learn not to always bottom it out to the corners, stay in between when you want to turn gently.
My main concern when this controller was announced was actually the size of it. I was worried that it would be larger than the GameCube controller for "comfort" as many controllers these days skew big but seeing it in your hands it looks like it might be about the same? Another concern is that it seems like the triggers are digital even though they have a bit of travel? That would cause issues in all sorts of non-Switch games and would be a main concern as well.
Kind of crazy that a GameCube controller is on the cutting edge right now.
Can you remap the face buttons in the switch menu? Great review!
18:10 whoah man, the game cube face button layout is considered one of the best designs ever in my opinion. I always get GameCube style controlls for the switch for all games. No matter what. I never play with B A Y X layout. Its A B X Y or GameCube. For all games ever. Not just for your gatekeeping game type.
I get annoyed when people act like the GameCube layout is only for Smash, as if there aren't hundreds of other GameCube games that existed. Currently, I only use GameCube styled controllers for Switch, Wii U and Steam Deck. God of War with the GameCube layout is pure gaming heaven!
@@LightyKD_ anything with GameCube layout is superior. Unfortunately Nintendo patened it and other but companys can't use it for their own hardware. At least accessory manufacturers are exempt.
@@PhoachPlaylist Don't think you can say that either. Look at the Steam Deck. It's clearly Valve's hardware yet it has official support for the XBox, PlayStation and Switch Pro Controller. The only reason it doesn't have GameCube options in menu is because not many people ask for official menu settings. That said I still use my PowerA GameCube Styled Controller because it's technically a Switch Pro Controller. Just because the console players don't like mixing controllers, well that's their issue.
@Lighty Kid there is no patent on the standard controller layout. Since the super Nintendo, everyone has gone with it and hasn't changed. It's standard because it's familiar. So that's mostly why it's the common layout
Good Video! Only gripe I had is it feels like you repeat a lot of the features such as the hall effect sensors, and the gates which just extended the video longer than it needed to be. Everything else on point though!
You should review the Mobapad switch controller soon.
I’ve never seen someone review an instructions manual lol 😅
Overall great vid preordered mine 🎉
First time viewer of your channel, and loved your review! Fast, complete, concise and loved your humor! Compared to other gamepad reviewers (likee the whiney Blunty..).
Glad you enjoyed!
Just ordered these 😊 and a hyperion. Just wondering can the wizard connect to pc?
maybe i missed it in the video, but do they charge through the rails or do you have to charge them through the USB C ports, even when handheld?
ordered mine! does clicking the controller into the switch just work like a native bumper set or is it still bluetooth since you mentioned you can charge it via the usb c port. just making sure i dont have to always charge it over the ports and i just misunderstood that.
Just bought the 8bitdo ultimate for pc mainly, super looking forward to it
I need that
@@0FFICERPROBLEM after using it for a while, I recommend it over any other pc controller regardless of price
3:58 The X Button would like to have a chat lmao.
There is a way to remap buttons on the switch to allow you to use a button from the other side. I don’t use the dpad for most of my games so I remapped b to one of the directions and then the rear button to that direction and now it allows me to have b on the left a on the right.
That's actually a decent work around, unfortunately not one Id be able to use as a good amount of the games I play tend to use the d-pad for one reason or another. Could definitely see using this on games that just have the D-pad as a alternate to the left stick though.
Wish you could've tested on a PC or steam deck since i hear it's compatible with that
Follow up question you have an idea of a case that might fit this set up? Pre ordered mine and looking for a case to fit it in. I’m waiting to hear back from NYXI website to see if the case they sell will fit the set up. I know it fits their other products but wasn’t sure on the wizard set up. Any information would help a lot thank you.
Hey, will you review the besavior PS5 controller it looks great and has 4 back paddles
Can the face buttons be swapped with a GameCube controller's buttons? That would make the buttons better.
As someone who also uses Playstation and Xbox layout controllers, Gamecube's layout is a godsend! The a$$hole design of swapping the ABXY buttons for no reason is irreverent when each button has a different shape and feel. It's impossible to forget the layout.
So for me, Gamecube games/fighting games are not why I use controllers with this layout. I genuinely just think it is the best button layout. Also, the gates are fantastic for both 2D and 3D platformers and even some shooters with stupid controls like Bioshock.
Too bad I couldn't find a video of yours reviewing the Exlene GameCube switch controller as a comparison. I picked up 2 when they went for $32. They are perfect for hammering on for smash. They are supposedly upgraded and cost $50 now. At that price I'd be hesitant but still recommend.
Was waiting for your review. Let’s see how this puppy fares.
That sucks that you can’t even test the inputs on the pc. Oh well
Oof. Face button feel is most important for me. If they don’t feel close to the og GameCube ones, I don’t really want it.
Available now! Only 10,000 (ten thousand) pieces available, so grab em quick!
as far as i know these are the only joycon with hall sticks if i am wrong i would love to hear about alternatives
and the restock has occurred
Does it say the amps needed to recharge the joycons...like a 1.5 amp brick? Would have buy two, i guess.
What are the width and depth dimension of the unit with the joycons attached.
Any details on battery life or charging?
can this controller be used on pc or other condoles besides switch?
Anything on the new aim controller on kickstarter?
Can you please review the collective mind strike pack eliminator for PS4?
Does it have wired connection? And what’s the refresh rate?
Imagine if LG made a controller. The naming on that bad boy.
Does the original ones have Hall effect?
Did you have any problem with shipping? I ordered mine and the tracking website is in Chinese lol
please add a amazon link for this
I'm interested in where the stick modules actually came from, who the supplier and manufacturer are, because those stickboxes seem almost semi-custom as they don't match any other typical design on the market currently.
I'd be curious to see how long the modules actually last, same with GK's design. The better of the suppliers only rate their basic hall sensors, i.e. no mitigation strategies implemented into the sensor package, at 1000 hours of quiescent age-related voltage drift; which is abysmally short once you think about it, probably the reason we're not seeing amazing warranties (if at all) on these controllers. Furthering this issue is that hall sensors also have an infancy period of voltage drift before their drift plateaus to a consistent low, so that 1000 hour number is pretty hit or miss, not to mention that's average among a set; and this age-related voltage drift issue runs away fairly quickly, which would mean you need constantly adapting mitigation, which wouldn't exist in most consumer products. Are they a step above the current ALPS situation, sure, but are they long-term, not really; plus potentiometers aren't the issue, properly specced ones will last a long time, ALPS is cutting corners and overrating components, that's why drift wasn't an issue a couple of decades ago and why it only has been an issue the past couple console generations, ALPS has become the quality that third parties used to get shat on for. Honestly I think hall sticks are a fad, there's a reason Sega's design didn't stick around for the past quarter century, if ALPS wasn't causing problems these modules wouldn't really be a thing, basic marketing tactics, piggyback off an issue and provide a solution that's marginally better, rather than creating a better solution; which does exist, Sony figured out cheap and simple inductive sticks 15-20 years ago, and discontinued them probably because they were too good (look at the current 'controllers are consumables' market), plus other inductive designs do exist, analog optoelectronic designs could exist, etc.
As for the controller itself, I don't understand a few things. Why is there a charging port per controller, the thing charges via the Switch, the thing could instead charge via the middle bar. The rear buttons are also in a fairly awkward spot, the molding under the C-stick and dpad are entirely reachable, not to mention the GC handles are unique in that you can wrap your hands around them fully, why not tuck the button into the inside of the grips instead of towards the rear. The light-up buttons are probably the reason they feel lackluster, you have to pipe light into them somehow, and how they get around that is more than likely what leads to their downside; I could understand them for someone that isn't familiar with a certain layout, going from Sony to a different platform, and the issue between Microsoft's and Nintendo's ABXY layouts, but the GC layout is made in such a way that it doesn't need this feature, A is always main, B is always secondary, and X/Y are always tertiary, by color, size, and layout. Also why do the swappable stick gates not have anti-friction rings, at least on the circular ones, this would be such a basic upgrade.
Another reviewer somehow got gamepad tester to work with their controller. Somehow NIXY has tuned the controller to only have 5% circularity error. Although I noticed some oddities and I do wonder if the modules have redundancy or if they're somehow mitigating jumpy sensors, y'know the issue GuliKit has with their no-deadzone mode.
Wow you are obviously extremely knowledgeable about this stuff! Is there any controllers you would recommend buying atm for PC/Console/Docked Switch use that are potentially long term quality?
@@0FFICERPROBLEM The current market is pretty much potentiometer sticks or hall effect sticks, we all know how the pot situation is lately, and hall sensors are a step up from the current situation but aren't a long term solution. Plus no company is invested in other solutions, like inductive position sensors, optoelectronics, etc., nor will any company realistically dive into that because controllers are now consumables.
Honestly, learn how to repair controllers, it's the only long-term low-cost solution until someone develops something better; and given the controllers are consumables take the industry has, this will have to be an aftermarket mod at some point, and that kind of mod just isn't all that simple to pull off considering the difficulty of drop-in modules that adapt one style of tech to another tech's physical layout. If you get into repairs, you _might_ have luck scavenging potentiometers from decades ago, y'know when drift wasn't such a widespread issue, this might be a first decent step. Another option is finding a 4pin SixAxis/DualShock 3, as these are magnetic sticks that aren't hall sensors, just use API translation such as a Mayflash Magic or a Brook adapter; I'm currently trying to reverse engineer these, but this is proving to not be so simple.
The market is just in a bad place right now because of capitalism and consumerism with absolutely no oversight nor consumer protections. That's why various manufacturers are jumping on hall sensors, they're a marketable alternative with a lot of marketing buzz, mostly from influencer word of mouth, which honestly makes them more of a fad than a solution given their downsides.
I guess the eight gate would be great for Zelda: Links awakening, seeing as how it uses 8 directional movement.
Is it sold out again? I wouldn't be suprised if it is
Can this connect to PC by Bluetooth? Steam has Joy Con support, so I'd love to try this on my PC games in the future
Yes
My dreamcast controllers still work, damn are they quality
Yeah they are
No stick drift ! But my d-pad has drift. And I tried to contact them and no response in over 5 plus days
Hey bro thanks you
what carry case can this fit in?
What about the weight? I actually love and prefer a controller with a bit of bulk behind it. The weight of a Wavebord or a traditional Gamecube controller is what made the gamecube so great IMO.
To me if a controller doesn't have weight then the quality of the controller is obviously going to be cheap and frail and likely will not feel as nostalgic as the controller it's trying to gain inspiration from.
Nah, the GCN design/ layout is a BIG plus for me, even if I there was NO GCN games to play on switch, along with Hall Effect sticks, I need one in my life.
When are we going to see something like this in a ps5 pro controller?
BIIIING BOOONG
I love it however it’s feels very lite and a little cheap but it’s still nice
what pc case is that i want one :) ?
Can you use these usb wired on PC.
Do these have rumble?
Is this good for smash bros online? Or just get a wired one
Does it work on Android or PC via bluetooth?
These no stick drift controllers just continue to hurt my heart not having 2+ rear buttons ..
Ironic how they sold out but they made sure they’re promoters got one that way sales are ensured. Bet this remote sucks as much as the hyperion did
Absolutely would buy this solely to play smash
If my pro ever gives out i prob buy this
I just want a controller for switch that's full mechanical buttons like my razer sabertooth is.
Why do people question the Gamecube button layout so much? I prefer a Gamecube controller for ALL games (on PC as well), because it's objectively the best controller design ever, and here's why: due to the unique face button shapes, they can never be confused with one another like every other ABXY layout of **4 identically sized circles** can! With the Gamecube controller, the A button is like 'home row' for your thumb, and all the other action buttons surround it, which makes way more ergonomic and logical sense than the standard diamond arrangement. With other controllers (if you're someone who games on multiple platforms), you're often having to look down from the screen to double check what you're pressing, which is ridiculous and shouldn't be the case. Going from Nintendo to Xbox? Watch out because A, B, X, and Y are all in different spots! Going from Xbox or Nintendo to Playstation? Well now you've gotta remember some random f*king symbol positions instead of letters.. The Gamecube controller had this problem solved over 20 years ago, yet somehow an inferior design has prevailed. This is the true reason why the Gamecube controller will never die. It's just better.
3:37 you can remap through the switch software so you can get that opposite joy con button mapped to the back button. Or just any of the standard buttons since these joy cons are compatible with the switch software. Hori Switch Pad Pro is not
im gonna get this but i wish i could connect to it to my PC like a normal controller. if you know what i mean hope they make something that can help with that
You simply pair the two half's as one controller
Correction there aren't any GameCube games on switch, and the remasters/HD rereleases of old GameCube titles like Super Mario Sunshine on that Super Mario 3D collection don't count.
I wasn't going to cave, and then I remembered how I broke the l3 click function on my joy cons....and now I have paid for one
so dissapointed they added turbo buttons. this could have been tournament legal.
Im trying to decide whether this controller will hold up to the rigors of Smash (for casuals ofc)
@@meesironman ive since purchased this. its absolutely great for smash, especcially handheld. Still wish they didnt add turbo buttons on it, its also got macros.
Brawler64 BT NSO and Victrix BFG when?
What about amiibo support
Try to buy this and it went out of stock immediately. Hopefully it comes in the stock soon.
Back in stock
@@UGotA9 yeah I pre-ordered mine. Sadly it hasn’t shipped yet.
dreamcast was the best console ever
Are the triggers analog?
No
So I will say when it comes to screen prompts I have a much harder time than jumping.
Would this work with a PC without much hassle?
Yes
Could you show us a closer pic of "the wall"
I’ll do you one better . I’m doing a video tour of my room and wall soon
@@GamerHeavenOfficial i love that!!!!
Is this working on pc ?
But does it let you play video games
The face buttons being worse than even the 3rd party gc controller has me hesitant, button feel is way more important than most think
If the face buttons are like previous NYXI controllers, then they will be trash.
If only it would charge with the actual console and not a a type c :/
Biiiing boooooong
You are saying it wrong, it's NYXI N.Y.X.I meaning you say it like this, Niksy not with each individual character said separately.
Now you've gotta check out the *_DOYOKY Wireless Joycon_*
i can't find the input delay test section, that's the only thing i care beside hall effect joysticks
ok he couldn't do that... uff....