I have a 2016 Powerwagon on 37's, 6 speed auto, and the AEV Procal. It has stock gears which are 4.10 and the 6.4 gas motor. It shifts into 6th at around 60mph. It does fine out on the interstate and highway here in hilly north Georgia but does kinda suck gas if you stay in 45mph zones and in traffic. Great videos!
True, 4.10 gears are already on the power wagon on my 2021. The best thing they said is true, I'm getting lifetime warranty ball joints to control the steering. Maybe an Apex steering system. To tighten it up without having them tight hub ball joints, but them freely swiveling the hub. More control over lose gravel or dirt.
I really appreciate you talking about gears. I am one of the people asking you about gears on IG and youtube. I can't wait for the dedicated gear episode
What setup do you want to have - tire size and suspension system? Do you haul and tow? If so how often? If not what distance driving do you do? Are you a weekend warrior? Is your truck a mall crawler? Etc.
if you go to a gearing calculator (Google search), you can plug in your factory wheel size and factory gears, then plug in the size tires you want and it will tell you the gear ratio you need to keep your shift points as they are from the factory. The number it provides you will most likely not be a actually mass produced gear size but you can round up or down. For example, it may say you need 4.79 gears so you would round up to 4.88 gears. Alternatively, you can by an OBD programmer from a respectable company like AEV. Programmer will tell you to input your axle gears and tires and then re-program your transmission shift points to match what they were from the factory. If you really want to do this the right way, you do both. Re-gear for the bigger tires and then re-program with the new gear ratios and tire sizes. I have done this with several trucks and it provides the best outcome for off-roading, especially if you want to go with a much more aggressive gear.
@@amolinari9 I have the 3.42 gears. I am gunna run 37's and move up to 40's eventually. I already have a bigger turbo set up. I plan on towing regularly once I start building a home. Im more in the planning stage of my build.
Jake McKeen well luckily 3.42 is a respectable and economical gear ratio for large HD trucks. The best all around for 37” tires and a turbo diesel that mostly daily drives is 3.73. If you care a lot about mileage then 4.10s would feel “perfect” but if you do a lot off road and tow heavy then you’ll want 4.88s minimum. What is your truck, year, make, model, and trim level?
The next time you guys do one of these Q&A sessions could you address rear axle offset on super duties and whether or not Carli suspension systems correct the issue. It seems like on most super duty trucks the rear axle favors the passenger side up to an inch in some cases.
I’m so glad you guys made this video and provided the explanations the way you did. Here’s my personal case study to give ppl piece of mind. My truck stock had 2.73 gears with 29” tires (2006 Dodge Ram 1500 v6 3.7L 6 speed manual regular cab). I ran 33s on it (mud terrains many brands) for past 10 years until I decided to bite the bullet and regear. I wanted 4.56s but even with 37s it would be too draining on long commutes with poor gas mileage. I went with 4.10s and plan on my next set of tires to be 35s. For daily driving and weekend off-roading it is the perfect combo for me. My engine is weak but my drivetrain is solid (under power overgear). Furthermore, paired with a Detroit locker my rear axle is tougher at 14 years old than any stock 2020 😎. As for suspension I have a procomp 3” lift (don’t make them anymore). I had to replace the shocks last year but everything else in the steering and ball joints is stock and/or OEM. When I get my next truck this thing can only grow into a rock crawler unless I leave it as a “farm” vehicle.
Really good info guys I am new to the heavy duty truck market I just bought a 2019 ram 2500 crew cab with the hemi thanks to Eddie's life For leading me to you guys just wish you wasn't so far away in California I live in Oklahoma saving up to buy a leveling kit soon
It’s like asking iOS vs Android. Just comes down to which brand you like better! Both make a product that’s head and shoulders above the rest of the “lift kit” market.
It all depends on what you’re doing with the truck. If you’re towing multiple times a week, you should re-gear. If the truck is mostly empty, then a tuner or pedal commander will do the trick! Most of the time though these trucks drive just fine without anything.
This is one thing I'vw been wondering about as well since I would definitely regear from the 4.10 factory to 4.88 for the 37 inch tires I want to put on my power wagon.
I have a 17 power wagon, I'm going to put on 40's what other upgrades should I do? Short commuts is basically what I do a few long trips throughout the year. And once in a while I do a little offloading nothing serious.
What is the difference ride and capability between the Carli setup and the AEV levelling kit? Specifically is AEV's axle relocation necessary or can I get the same results from a Carli system?
I just regeared my truck and used the pulsar Lt programmer to match the gear axle ratios and my cruise control won't work..I didn't tune it because I assumed the pulsar was all I needed..has anyone had this issue and how did u get your cruise control back
I’m ordering a 2022 Ram 2500 or 3500 Cummins 4x4. I plan on doing a Carli lift to fit 37’s. I have the option to order the truck with 3.73 or 4.10 gears. I won’t be towing regularly or heavy. What gears will be the best choice for the future? If I order the 4.10’s now it is only $150 option versus thousands later if I need to.
Love the videos, always learn something new. Can you go over suspension upgrades for guys who run 19.5 on there 3500. Is it best to ditch the 19.5 and run a more traditional 17inch tire. Appreciate your time.
Yeah sadly those 19.5 tires ruin the ride because they’re so stiff! The best move for ride quality is to go 20” or 17” wheels since the tires ride significantly better.
Hey CJC! Ive been enjoying your stuff and even planning my level, wheels, and tires off your videos. I have been going back and forth on the gears , my 2019 F250 has 6.7L and 3.31 gears so I have been budgeting a regear but maybe not? My biggest concern was the big tires would cause my transmission to work harder? I think Im going to reach out to yall for my lift when time comes! thanks again!
Our recommendation is always to drive the truck with the new tires before re-gearing. These trucks are made to tow 20k pounds all day every day, so some bigger tires don’t phase the truck much! 99% of our customers don’t re-gear because there’s really no need unless you plan to tow extreme loads daily.
I have 2018 2500 ram 3.42 gears really love the look of the 37's. I'm on the east going to have a local shop do 2.34 Thuren kit front coils with front and rear track bar with 2.5 fox shock on 35's I pull 29ft travel trailer 8,000 pounds I pull it like 6 time a year max travel is 2.50 hrs if I was to do the 37's you think I should regear or you think I would be fine not sure how much regearing cost just sounds expensive. Ty Lou
You can always try it and see how the truck does for you and then make your decision. Multiple of us at the shop have a similar situation and left the stock 3.42 gears and have over 80k miles without issue.
I'm in the exact spot, was planning on doing 37s but after seeing this beast with 38s I REALLLLLY want to follow suit. Would there be a massive difference 37 to 38?
38s look great, but expect rub when flexing and turning, and know that the truck’s suspension can’t fully bottom and turn lock to lock. You’ll also definitely have to re-gear with 38s and factory 3.42 gears. That said, did we mention how good they look? Haha
I’m wondering about tire wear on 2016 ram 3500 dually. My truck has killed 3 sets of tires in the front lots of cupping. What’s recommendations to help the front end ride nice. Truck is lifted fox 2.0 37s also dual steering dampers and steering box stabilizer
CJC Off Road Okay I’ll check balance just had all new ball joints and hubs done also alignment. Just thinking it’s front end that causes high speed vibrations or Might be balance is off on driveshaft. Thanks for the reply
I’m getting new rims, I found the same ones with+20 offset, I liked a few beasts but they’re only a positive one offset and I’m not sure they’re gonna work with 35
There is a '19 Power Wagon in my near future. When making the change from the stock 33's to 35's or 37's, is there a wheel option that allows the installation of a larger diameter brake disc/caliper kit? I'm concerned the greater diameter tires degrade the braking performance, plus I'm planning an overland build, so I'll be carrying some extra weight. Thank you.
You probably won’t need larger brakes since these trucks stop great even on 37s or 38s as the brakes were designed to stop the trucks plus their full towing capacity. These are like Tacomas or other smaller trucks! If you do want larger brakes though, you’ll need to do an 18” or 20” wheel. We also highly recommend getting a Ram 3500 for any overland build, since they’re the only trucks with adequate payload capacity and you can make them ride better than a Power Wagon.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for your comments. I was thinking of a light weight camper in the 450 lb range. I know the stock PW has a payload around 1600 lbs, and don't you offer a Carli kit that raises the payload to 2000 lbs? I'm thinking that should be enough payload for me and my gear, unless you can convince me otherwise.
i'm running Bilstein 5100 shocks with stock coils and 2in spacers on 35x12.5xR20. I want to ditch the pucks, jam some thuren 1in coil springs and keep my 5100s. See any potential issues with that? 15' 2500 Ram LL 4WD
The shocks you have might not cycle enough travel for the Thuren coils. We typically recommend pairing Carli or Thuren coils with Carli or Thuren shocks if possible.
I have a 2018 power wagon,thinking of doing the thuren overland system,this will raise the truck how much..i bought the truck with 20x12 helo rims neg 44 offset and have small rubbing issue ..once the kit is installed would i be able to run 35x13.5x20?
Thuren actually offers several coil heights, so choose accordingly for the height you want. You will have extreme rub with a wheel spec that aggressive though. We couldn’t recommend over -12 with a 35” tire if you plan to flex the suspension at all and turn.
Hi guys, I have a 2019 Power Wagon and am curious about suspension options. Could you guys explain the difference between AEV’s Dual Sport Suspension system where they are fitting 39s or 40s vs a Carli Suspension system? Both brands seem the be held in high regard for engineering and building high quality long lasting systems designed to take off road abuse, AEV maybe even more so. The Carli systems seem to have a lot more manufactured components and a higher cost at first look whereas AEV seems to be more focused on retaining factory components and just relocating them to maintain geometry. If one was looking to fit 39s or 40s, had to have a suspension which lasted the life of the truck, and had to be able to withstand serious and daily off road use, what would be the best choice?
If you don’t mind, call or shoot us a message on Instagram. Happy to help but it’s a longer conversation than we can have on a RUclips comment section!
I've got a 2017 ram 3500, I have a carli add a pack kit sitting around from my last build. should I consider installing that on this truck or will it make a difference in ride quality?
I have a 2022 power wagon. I run 35 inch tires. Stock suspension. Mostly in town driving I only get 8.9 mpg. I’ve seen people say they get 14-18 mpg. How are they doing this ?
I have a question. I can't justify the cost of diesel. So I am trying to decide between Power Wagon vs. Laramie+Carli. Daily driver, occasional local towing, and heading to camp sites with the whole family. Thanks!
Our personal choice would be the Laramie with Carli Suspension. You’ll get a nicer interior, and far more capable suspension than what comes on the Power Wagon. Sure you miss out on the winch and a few other small things that come with the Power Wagon, but in the end you’ll have a more comfortable and capable truck.
@@CJCOffRoad thanks! So with that said, I am trying to plan out a truck order. I read that some kits have different load capacities. I would like to try keep my load capacity with the Laramie.
Have any customers with a 6.4 hemi, 3.73s running 37s with no issues/complaints? Reading online either people say its fine live your life, or the other half say you have to regear.
It all depends where the person lives and how they drive. Some re-gear, and some are perfectly happy with the factory gears. Our recommendation is to always go off your personal needs and use case.
I'm in the market to buy a 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.7 diesel. I would like to get the 2.5 3" king pintop kit. I know these kits can still tow good but is there anything I can do to increase the payload? I would like to get a host tahoe camper trailer for my truck so we can still tow our boat and have a place to sleep.
The 2500 trucks have an okay payload in Tradesman trim, but it’s still under 2k depending on the configuration. Unfortunately there aren’t great solutions to increase payload.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for your reply. Looks like a 3500 it is then. Looking forward to starting this project end of December beginning of January. I live in Pico Rivera so as soon as I pick up my truck I'm swinging by your shop in bellflower.
I have a 19 Power Wagon and used the Tazer Ram to correct the speedometer, change tire size, and lower factory tpms parameters. It’s easy to use and install. It unlocks the ability to change a lot of different factory settings that you normally wouldn’t be able to access.
Lets simplify the re-gearing debate. The answer is yes you SHOULD re-gear anytime you change your tire size from what it was from the factory. The drivetrain and trans tuning was designed to work specifically with that gear ratio with that tire. You are only adding extra wear and tear into the drivetrain without re-gearing. The truck will function fine without re-gearing but understand parts will fail sooner than if they were re-geared, also the truck will feel a little more sluggish. You will NOT see better fuel economy overall being under geared, you are forcing the engine to overcome mechanical disadvantages all the time instead of the proper gears you would be forcing the engine to overcome mechanical disadvantages only when there is a load on the truck. Being under geared would be like 500 LB in the bed at all times. If you want to maintain how the truck feels from the factory you have to re-gear. Yes these new trucks make 1000 lb of torque from the factory and they can handle being under geared but you certainly will feel the difference in everyday driving and especially towing applications.
@@stump3514 I got a 2020 Ram Power Wagon with Alfa OBD tuner. 35x12.50x17 tires. Improved my fuel economy, improved trans shift points for larger tires, and corrected the speedo. You have a good rest the day sir.
@@sh0cktim3 holy hell you are that stupid. Tell me why trucks wouldn’t come from the factory with 35x12.5 tires if they improved fuel economy?? Wait don’t answer that question. You will never see an overall increase in fuel economy being under geared it’s not in the realm of possibility. As for fixing the reading on the tachometer that’s just adjusting the calculation in the computer for it and adjusting shift points for larger tires is called compensating for being under geared...
@@stump3514 man your very angry.Power Wagons come from the factory with 4:10s. I imagine that has alot to do with it compared to a typical 2500. It's my truck. I actually drive it and I know the economy has increased. Nothing major but it has gotten better on the highway. Jesus Christ go get laid Asap.
I'd be willing to bet re-gearing is a net positive on preventing your DPF from plugging up. Lugging around at 1200 RPM with 37" and stock gears isn't ideal.
Just got my leveling kit, track bar, and 35s installed on my 2500. The ride and stance is so much better. Thanks for the informative videos guys.
I have a 2016 Powerwagon on 37's, 6 speed auto, and the AEV Procal. It has stock gears which are 4.10 and the 6.4 gas motor. It shifts into 6th at around 60mph. It does fine out on the interstate and highway here in hilly north Georgia but does kinda suck gas if you stay in 45mph zones and in traffic. Great videos!
True, 4.10 gears are already on the power wagon on my 2021. The best thing they said is true, I'm getting lifetime warranty ball joints to control the steering. Maybe an Apex steering system. To tighten it up without having them tight hub ball joints, but them freely swiveling the hub. More control over lose gravel or dirt.
I really appreciate you talking about gears. I am one of the people asking you about gears on IG and youtube. I can't wait for the dedicated gear episode
What setup do you want to have - tire size and suspension system? Do you haul and tow? If so how often? If not what distance driving do you do? Are you a weekend warrior? Is your truck a mall crawler? Etc.
if you go to a gearing calculator (Google search), you can plug in your factory wheel size and factory gears, then plug in the size tires you want and it will tell you the gear ratio you need to keep your shift points as they are from the factory. The number it provides you will most likely not be a actually mass produced gear size but you can round up or down. For example, it may say you need 4.79 gears so you would round up to 4.88 gears. Alternatively, you can by an OBD programmer from a respectable company like AEV. Programmer will tell you to input your axle gears and tires and then re-program your transmission shift points to match what they were from the factory. If you really want to do this the right way, you do both. Re-gear for the bigger tires and then re-program with the new gear ratios and tire sizes. I have done this with several trucks and it provides the best outcome for off-roading, especially if you want to go with a much more aggressive gear.
@@amolinari9 I have the 3.42 gears. I am gunna run 37's and move up to 40's eventually. I already have a bigger turbo set up. I plan on towing regularly once I start building a home. Im more in the planning stage of my build.
Jake McKeen well luckily 3.42 is a respectable and economical gear ratio for large HD trucks. The best all around for 37” tires and a turbo diesel that mostly daily drives is 3.73. If you care a lot about mileage then 4.10s would feel “perfect” but if you do a lot off road and tow heavy then you’ll want 4.88s minimum. What is your truck, year, make, model, and trim level?
Is it true that Hollywood asked both of you to make "Step Brothers II"? Cole & Cody World Wide?
The next time you guys do one of these Q&A sessions could you address rear axle offset on super duties and whether or not Carli suspension systems correct the issue. It seems like on most super duty trucks the rear axle favors the passenger side up to an inch in some cases.
I’m so glad you guys made this video and provided the explanations the way you did. Here’s my personal case study to give ppl piece of mind. My truck stock had 2.73 gears with 29” tires (2006 Dodge Ram 1500 v6 3.7L 6 speed manual regular cab). I ran 33s on it (mud terrains many brands) for past 10 years until I decided to bite the bullet and regear. I wanted 4.56s but even with 37s it would be too draining on long commutes with poor gas mileage. I went with 4.10s and plan on my next set of tires to be 35s. For daily driving and weekend off-roading it is the perfect combo for me. My engine is weak but my drivetrain is solid (under power overgear). Furthermore, paired with a Detroit locker my rear axle is tougher at 14 years old than any stock 2020 😎. As for suspension I have a procomp 3” lift (don’t make them anymore). I had to replace the shocks last year but everything else in the steering and ball joints is stock and/or OEM. When I get my next truck this thing can only grow into a rock crawler unless I leave it as a “farm” vehicle.
We need more of these!
Nice job guys, would love to see more pics/video of the green beast. I think i'm going to build one as well!!!!
More to come! We've posted a bunch on our Instagram too!
just diesels posted a video on it, cole let him borrow it for a bit ha
Really good info guys I am new to the heavy duty truck market I just bought a 2019 ram 2500 crew cab with the hemi thanks to Eddie's life For leading me to you guys just wish you wasn't so far away in California I live in Oklahoma saving up to buy a leveling kit soon
Thanks for the support! We ship and will happily walk you through the whole install process!
Good info. I'd love to hear the pros and cons of a Carli suspension kit vs. a Thurin kit.
It’s like asking iOS vs Android. Just comes down to which brand you like better! Both make a product that’s head and shoulders above the rest of the “lift kit” market.
Love your videos guys! Love it
Thanks so much!
Would you recommend re gearing over a tuner to make up for power loss from larger tires?
It all depends on what you’re doing with the truck. If you’re towing multiple times a week, you should re-gear. If the truck is mostly empty, then a tuner or pedal commander will do the trick! Most of the time though these trucks drive just fine without anything.
Can you do a video on installing Carli radius arms. Bolt on and off is not hard but talking specifically about how to set the camber.
Caster
When are after market gears going to be available on 2019 and newer Power Wagons?
Great question! From what we hear it should be very soon.
This is one thing I'vw been wondering about as well since I would definitely regear from the 4.10 factory to 4.88 for the 37 inch tires I want to put on my power wagon.
According to Randy's ring and pinion gears for 2019 and newer Ram Powerwagons will not be available from them until 2023,or 2024.
I have a 17 power wagon, I'm going to put on 40's what other upgrades should I do? Short commuts is basically what I do a few long trips throughout the year. And once in a while I do a little offloading nothing serious.
What are gear ratios and how do they affect truck on/off road?
Completely skipping over the 2013 power wagon, that I heard was the perfect one of the time.
What is the difference ride and capability between the Carli setup and the AEV levelling kit? Specifically is AEV's axle relocation necessary or can I get the same results from a Carli system?
I just regeared my truck and used the pulsar Lt programmer to match the gear axle ratios and my cruise control won't work..I didn't tune it because I assumed the pulsar was all I needed..has anyone had this issue and how did u get your cruise control back
I’m ordering a 2022 Ram 2500 or 3500 Cummins 4x4. I plan on doing a Carli lift to fit 37’s. I have the option to order the truck with 3.73 or 4.10 gears. I won’t be towing regularly or heavy. What gears will be the best choice for the future? If I order the 4.10’s now it is only $150 option versus thousands later if I need to.
If you plan to run 37s, get the highest numerical gear ratio you can order!
Love the videos, always learn something new. Can you go over suspension upgrades for guys who run 19.5 on there 3500. Is it best to ditch the 19.5 and run a more traditional 17inch tire. Appreciate your time.
Yeah sadly those 19.5 tires ruin the ride because they’re so stiff! The best move for ride quality is to go 20” or 17” wheels since the tires ride significantly better.
I was looking on your website you have the Thuren overland suspension for my power wagon in stock not on back order as per Thurens site
Unfortunately that system is just waiting on the shocks which are backed up at the moment.
Can u upgrade shocks
What are your thoughts about adding the fox back country 2.5 and 2.0 to a 14+ power wagon with factory springs ?
Hey CJC! Ive been enjoying your stuff and even planning my level, wheels, and tires off your videos. I have been going back and forth on the gears , my 2019 F250 has 6.7L and 3.31 gears so I have been budgeting a regear but maybe not? My biggest concern was the big tires would cause my transmission to work harder? I think Im going to reach out to yall for my lift when time comes! thanks again!
Our recommendation is always to drive the truck with the new tires before re-gearing. These trucks are made to tow 20k pounds all day every day, so some bigger tires don’t phase the truck much! 99% of our customers don’t re-gear because there’s really no need unless you plan to tow extreme loads daily.
I have 2018 2500 ram 3.42 gears really love the look of the 37's. I'm on the east going to have a local shop do 2.34 Thuren kit front coils with front and rear track bar with 2.5 fox shock on 35's I pull 29ft travel trailer 8,000 pounds I pull it like 6 time a year max travel is 2.50 hrs if I was to do the 37's you think I should regear or you think I would be fine not sure how much regearing cost just sounds expensive. Ty Lou
You can always try it and see how the truck does for you and then make your decision. Multiple of us at the shop have a similar situation and left the stock 3.42 gears and have over 80k miles without issue.
I'm in the exact spot, was planning on doing 37s but after seeing this beast with 38s I REALLLLLY want to follow suit. Would there be a massive difference 37 to 38?
38s look great, but expect rub when flexing and turning, and know that the truck’s suspension can’t fully bottom and turn lock to lock. You’ll also definitely have to re-gear with 38s and factory 3.42 gears. That said, did we mention how good they look? Haha
I’m wondering about tire wear on 2016 ram 3500 dually. My truck has killed 3 sets of tires in the front lots of cupping. What’s recommendations to help the front end ride nice. Truck is lifted fox 2.0 37s also dual steering dampers and steering box stabilizer
Sounds like something is off with the alignment or balancing. In our experience, balancing is usually the issue on the dually trucks.
CJC Off Road
Okay I’ll check balance just had all new ball joints and hubs done also alignment. Just thinking it’s front end that causes high speed vibrations or Might be balance is off on driveshaft. Thanks for the reply
I run 37’s on my stock power wagon with no issues, do you think I can go to a 40” or a 42” without regearing it?
I’m getting new rims, I found the same ones with+20 offset, I liked a few beasts but they’re only a positive one offset and I’m not sure they’re gonna work with 35
+1 works just fine with 35s!
There is a '19 Power Wagon in my near future. When making the change from the stock 33's to 35's or 37's, is there a wheel option that allows the installation of a larger diameter brake disc/caliper kit? I'm concerned the greater diameter tires degrade the braking performance, plus I'm planning an overland build, so I'll be carrying some extra weight. Thank you.
You probably won’t need larger brakes since these trucks stop great even on 37s or 38s as the brakes were designed to stop the trucks plus their full towing capacity. These are like Tacomas or other smaller trucks! If you do want larger brakes though, you’ll need to do an 18” or 20” wheel. We also highly recommend getting a Ram 3500 for any overland build, since they’re the only trucks with adequate payload capacity and you can make them ride better than a Power Wagon.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for your comments. I was thinking of a light weight camper in the 450 lb range. I know the stock PW has a payload around 1600 lbs, and don't you offer a Carli kit that raises the payload to 2000 lbs? I'm thinking that should be enough payload for me and my gear, unless you can convince me otherwise.
i'm running Bilstein 5100 shocks with stock coils and 2in spacers on 35x12.5xR20. I want to ditch the pucks, jam some thuren 1in coil springs and keep my 5100s. See any potential issues with that? 15' 2500 Ram LL 4WD
The shocks you have might not cycle enough travel for the Thuren coils. We typically recommend pairing Carli or Thuren coils with Carli or Thuren shocks if possible.
Is there any way to get shocks for a 01 2500 2wd drive? 😢just the bare minimum to help the ride
Nothing aside from the standard parts store shocks sadly.
The torque makes a big difference for sure
Should I spend my money on the grumper front and back bumper and cal too. 2019 ram Cummins 6.7
no lol
Good shit guys.
What is the most comfortable set up , can you do a video
Probably the pintop with every add on for the ultimate comfortable ride. They have done multiple videos on that system and everything in between.
Kindly sir I need to buy transfer case shifter for ram 2500 dodge power wagon 2018
I have a 2018 power wagon,thinking of doing the thuren overland system,this will raise the truck how much..i bought the truck with 20x12 helo rims neg 44 offset and have small rubbing issue ..once the kit is installed would i be able to run 35x13.5x20?
Thuren actually offers several coil heights, so choose accordingly for the height you want. You will have extreme rub with a wheel spec that aggressive though. We couldn’t recommend over -12 with a 35” tire if you plan to flex the suspension at all and turn.
Hi guys, I have a 2019 Power Wagon and am curious about suspension options. Could you guys explain the difference between AEV’s Dual Sport Suspension system where they are fitting 39s or 40s vs a Carli Suspension system? Both brands seem the be held in high regard for engineering and building high quality long lasting systems designed to take off road abuse, AEV maybe even more so. The Carli systems seem to have a lot more manufactured components and a higher cost at first look whereas AEV seems to be more focused on retaining factory components and just relocating them to maintain geometry. If one was looking to fit 39s or 40s, had to have a suspension which lasted the life of the truck, and had to be able to withstand serious and daily off road use, what would be the best choice?
If you don’t mind, call or shoot us a message on Instagram. Happy to help but it’s a longer conversation than we can have on a RUclips comment section!
CJC Off Road ok thanks, DM sent on IG
I've got a 2017 ram 3500, I have a carli add a pack kit sitting around from my last build. should I consider installing that on this truck or will it make a difference in ride quality?
The add a pack does make a considerable difference in rear ride!
I have a 2022 power wagon. I run 35 inch tires. Stock suspension. Mostly in town driving I only get 8.9 mpg. I’ve seen people say they get 14-18 mpg. How are they doing this ?
If your speedometer isn’t corrected for the tire size, your truck is reading less miles and that’s impacting the economy.
@ any suggestions on a programmer to correct this ?
You can use an AEV Pro Cal Snap:www.cjcoffroad.com/products/procal-snap-for-2019-hd-ram?_pos=1&_sid=a238b5a39&_ss=r
Ok Thanks. I have a throttle Commander installed. Will this affect that?
I have a question. I can't justify the cost of diesel. So I am trying to decide between Power Wagon vs. Laramie+Carli. Daily driver, occasional local towing, and heading to camp sites with the whole family. Thanks!
Our personal choice would be the Laramie with Carli Suspension. You’ll get a nicer interior, and far more capable suspension than what comes on the Power Wagon. Sure you miss out on the winch and a few other small things that come with the Power Wagon, but in the end you’ll have a more comfortable and capable truck.
@@CJCOffRoad thanks! So with that said, I am trying to plan out a truck order. I read that some kits have different load capacities. I would like to try keep my load capacity with the Laramie.
Have any customers with a 6.4 hemi, 3.73s running 37s with no issues/complaints?
Reading online either people say its fine live your life, or the other half say you have to regear.
It all depends where the person lives and how they drive. Some re-gear, and some are perfectly happy with the factory gears. Our recommendation is to always go off your personal needs and use case.
What make is that 3rd brake light behind you guys????
You can buy those right here: www.cjcoffroad.com/GJ-Motorsports-s/2485.htm
If I go with the carli pintop for my 19 wagon and 37s should I regear?
All depends on your personal use! Most of our Power Wagon customers stick with the factory gears on 37s.
I'm in the market to buy a 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.7 diesel. I would like to get the 2.5 3" king pintop kit. I know these kits can still tow good but is there anything I can do to increase the payload? I would like to get a host tahoe camper trailer for my truck so we can still tow our boat and have a place to sleep.
The 2500 trucks have an okay payload in Tradesman trim, but it’s still under 2k depending on the configuration. Unfortunately there aren’t great solutions to increase payload.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for your reply. Looks like a 3500 it is then. Looking forward to starting this project end of December beginning of January. I live in Pico Rivera so as soon as I pick up my truck I'm swinging by your shop in bellflower.
For a 2019 RAM 2500, is a 4" lift too much for 37" tires?
The 3" Carli/Thuren systems look just right for 37s in our opinion!
Can you guys introduce yourselves as the Scranton stranglers?
What "programmers" are you using to correct the speedo on these trucks?
Our go to is either the AEV ProCal for home use, or Alpha OBD.
I have a 19 Power Wagon and used the Tazer Ram to correct the speedometer, change tire size, and lower factory tpms parameters. It’s easy to use and install. It unlocks the ability to change a lot of different factory settings that you normally wouldn’t be able to access.
Lets simplify the re-gearing debate. The answer is yes you SHOULD re-gear anytime you change your tire size from what it was from the factory. The drivetrain and trans tuning was designed to work specifically with that gear ratio with that tire. You are only adding extra wear and tear into the drivetrain without re-gearing. The truck will function fine without re-gearing but understand parts will fail sooner than if they were re-geared, also the truck will feel a little more sluggish. You will NOT see better fuel economy overall being under geared, you are forcing the engine to overcome mechanical disadvantages all the time instead of the proper gears you would be forcing the engine to overcome mechanical disadvantages only when there is a load on the truck. Being under geared would be like 500 LB in the bed at all times. If you want to maintain how the truck feels from the factory you have to re-gear. Yes these new trucks make 1000 lb of torque from the factory and they can handle being under geared but you certainly will feel the difference in everyday driving and especially towing applications.
FALSE! All you gotta do is reprogram the computer for 35s or 37s and it will fix the issues you mentioned.
@@sh0cktim3 I hope you’re joking. Otherwise you would just be stupid.....
@@stump3514 I got a 2020 Ram Power Wagon with Alfa OBD tuner. 35x12.50x17 tires. Improved my fuel economy, improved trans shift points for larger tires, and corrected the speedo. You have a good rest the day sir.
@@sh0cktim3 holy hell you are that stupid. Tell me why trucks wouldn’t come from the factory with 35x12.5 tires if they improved fuel economy?? Wait don’t answer that question. You will never see an overall increase in fuel economy being under geared it’s not in the realm of possibility. As for fixing the reading on the tachometer that’s just adjusting the calculation in the computer for it and adjusting shift points for larger tires is called compensating for being under geared...
@@stump3514 man your very angry.Power Wagons come from the factory with 4:10s. I imagine that has alot to do with it compared to a typical 2500. It's my truck. I actually drive it and I know the economy has increased. Nothing major but it has gotten better on the highway. Jesus Christ go get laid Asap.
Guys, a 68rfe is not gonna last with 37s flat driving no towing or not.
We have hundreds of customers with lots of miles towing and off roading without issue to say otherwise.
Yes it can drive like an adult
I'd be willing to bet re-gearing is a net positive on preventing your DPF from plugging up. Lugging around at 1200 RPM with 37" and stock gears isn't ideal.
They really don’t lug with 3.73s and 37s. Remember the truck is able to shift gears, so it still keeps the engine right in its happy spot.
Love the videos guys but you really need to work on your "uhs"
These Q&A videos are completely unscripted and off of the cuff- there's going to be ums and uhs since we're human!
Why u keep on speaking about diesels when you claim power wagon