Basement guitar player/recording artist (ha!) here. Big fan of Squier. I have a 2020 CV 50 Tele (those pickups sound great to me. Still thinking about putting in some Nocaster 51s and changing out the tuning machines, but again, that guitar sounds fantastic in my rig), 1985 MIJ Strat. I also have a Gibson Les Paul Jr. (1992) that I paid $250 for (fantastic headstock repair) with a P90, and a Squier Affinity JMHH which I modded with all black chrome hardware and new wiring. Thinking about putting better humbuckers in it, but also thinking about selling that. What I REALLY want is a Telecaster with CuNiFe pickups to round out my arsenal (of course, I still want to get something with "better" PAFs in it). They want $2500 for a Fender thinline. I can find Squier Thinlines on Reverb here for $350-400. Spend another $425 on Fender CuNiFe pickups and 1 meg pots and I'm still under budget. I just can't see the Fender being $2000 better than something I customize myself. I mean, I'm not going on tour any time soon, so why spend the cash. Thanks for the tip on Madlove.
I love the Cunife in my 72 thinline. Clear as a bell, bright and jangly, or dirty and gritty, or sweet and bluesy, it can cover so many genres. But so can TV Jones Classics. My point is.. If it sounds good it is good. I do enjoy the reissue 72 with the Cunife reissues. They do a special thing, whatever that is. They sound good in a jazzmaster too. With a little compromise. Worth it though.
my baritone has Alnico Wide Range pickups, which is kinda blasphemy, but I really like their sound for djent, deathcore and stuff like that. great video, i've subbed
I have too many guitars to mention with all different sorts of pickups. I’m a single coil guy. But my favorite guitar is a a heavily modded Jag with wide range humbuckers. It’s my go-to for sure. So, there’s definitely something to be said about these pickups
"pay-tint"? I love my Aussie brothers and sisters, but I can't even with this pronunciation. 🤣 Seriously, though, this video is awesome, as is the intro song. Thanks for helping sell me on some Madloves!
Great job on the history of Wide Range humbuckers. Like you I am also searching for an in-between that has Fender single coil sparkle and PAF Humbucker girth. Haven’t tried Wide Range humbuckers yet because until now none that I knew of actually used CuNiFe. Thanks for letting us know about Madlove‘s offerings. Fender is now selling aftermarket CuNiFe pickups as well.
I played a bunch of guitars with the new CuNiFe pickups to see if I wanted to put one in the neck of my custom tele shaped thing, but ultimately decided on a Lindy Fralin Big Single. I liked the sound better and the price is better.
I feel like the WRHBs have been very popular for a while tbh? maybe less amongst the traditional rock crowd, but hipsters have loved these for forever, or at least that is my impression of things lol. I think i might throw one of these into my blacktop jazzmaster in the bridge position to go with the jazzmaster sized p90 i have in the neck position- your review and demo has been very helpful!
I remember the first time I heard wide range pickups and wanted to know what they were was seeing Damien Rice live, he’s usually an acoustic guy (though he used to get a little heavy live even with an acoustic by using a rat & muff combo) but he pulled out an old beaten up black tele custom ‘72 for some full band stuff and basically kept it in the neck position the entire time, sounded killer and really unique. I’d never seen or heard pickups like it so I had to look it up after. I genuinely think it’s the only pick-up I really actually like in the neck position. Also I’ve always called CuNiFe like [kuh-knife] but I’ve not got a clue if that’s right. The only other company I can think of that makes proper CuNiFe wide range pickups is here in the U.K. called The Creamery, other than that I really don’t think there’s any other makers. I believe the Creamery manufacturers their CuNiFe in house though, as they describe it as ‘custom manufactured’. They make a few pickups with CuNiFe options, even bass pickups, and similarly to Madlove regular humbucker sized. I’m also glad to hear someone else is into those big ridiculous oversized ‘70s headstocks, love them. Also at like 19:30 was that the limelight being kicked on?
I completely forgot to mention the creamery when doing the video, but yes I had heard about their WRBHs. Didn’t know they offered such a range tho. Big headstocks are honestly my favourites on fenders. I know a lot of people hate it, but I love the vibe of fenders 70s output. I have heard that the build quality in that era was pretty bad, but thankfully there are plenty of lawsuit era Japanese guitars from that time to pick through. And no, at 19:30 it was actually the halberd. I love the limelight, but the halberd has been a real mainstay for me lately.
I just at discovered WRHB because of my Line 6 Shuriken SR270 guitar and in workbench hd you can virtually swap out pickups, etc. so I finally got time to set up an experiment with a ghost/neutral body + any pickup and mapped all available in workbench HD to pickup selector switch/user bank combos and anyway - the wide range humbucker is my favorite for distorted electric guitar, for a really raw, wild naked, full range of frequencies. Makes me want to play punk, grunge or blues especially, they’d sound so good in those applications. Also reminds me of a Steve Albini type of tone that he even uses in his bands. I can imagine this wide range pick up thru a cranked tube hi-watt or $fender maybe with a tube-screamer boost
It’s funny you mentioned Albini, because the original WRHB was the basis for the humbuckers in Travis Bean Guitars, of which Steve has used a lot in his bands.
Good channel. Found you when I was looking for a No Face review. Ended up getting that pedal after your great demo. I agree about the awesomeness of wide range, but they have to be CuNiFe and not one of the AlNiCo copies, or they're not going to sound right. I've got a pair of the Fender ones and I'm currently in the process of building a loaded pickguard to drop into my Deluxe.
cool video I did not know that the vintage ones were so different. for me as far as favorite pickup its either a bridge p90 or a neck humbucker. in love with both. also cant get over strat position 4 with an hss.
Just put some cunife Fender reissues in my Mex Deluxe Tele with 1 meg pots. I own and have owned lots of nice guitars over the years, mainly Gibson's and Fender's and this guitar is possibly the best sounding guitar I've ever owned. The bridge pickup is unsurpassed! If I have a slight criticism, the neck pickup could do with being a bit tighter, would like to try an underwound one in this position, maybe a lollar Regal
Listen to ''Night Train'' by Tab Benoit for the best example of what these pickups can do in the right hands. He plays a stock '72 thinline with no pedals or effects at all.
You’re smoking, man. Lollar pickups that used to be based right here where I live in WA have been doing this for over a decade. I have an overwound set from them. Been rocking the 72 deluxe reissue for a very long time now.
Lollars WRHB, while I’m sure are amazing, don’t use CuNiFe, they use a mix of alnico and FeCrCo magnets. A lot of industries switched to using FeCrCo when CuNiFe become unavailable, and it’s generally seen as the next best option to CuNiFe for WHRB. It’s paired with Alnico to help tame the harsh high end FeCrCo magnets tend to have. Lollar pickups are great though, I have a set of their Blademaster pickups in my Jazzmaster. Also I quit smoking.
Whoa whoa, man. The perfect middle ground between single coils and Humbuckers are P90s. :) in all seriousness, nice to hear others opinions on different pickups.
I have a 2006 Mexican Tele Deluxe, I have never had the pleasure of playing through real Wide Range Humbuckers but the ones that came in my Tele suck, they sound thin and lifeless compared to some of the other humbuckers I have including but not limited to the 1971 Gibson SG with Tar Backs, I have a Les Paul with T-Tops, A lawsuit Univox LP copy with pickups that sound almost identical to my late 60's patent sicker T-Top which is in another Japanese Lawsuit LP Copy, I also have some 1972 Maxon pickups from a Matsumoku made Epiphone which I put in a Squire Strat that all smoke my Mexican Tele wide ranges. I wish I could try some real vintage wide ranges but I don't have the finances to make this happen.
I am only concerned about my own mind. I bought a MIM semi hollow ashbody Tele in the US about 20 years ago, with 2 WR HB pickups, and it sounded terrible. It had no ´bite´ what so ever, and I sold it after a month. Later I have learned that it is a good idea to use 1M volume pots on those PUs, and Squire had a period using 300K, maybe that could be the reason. They sounds good in this video though. I any case I think the size is a problem, they fit nowhere. My ism are FilterTrons at the moment.
The 1 Meg pots are pretty crucial to getting the most out of them. The size is definitely an issue tho, if you don’t like the few guitars they fit in, it’s too bad so sad.
For some reason I really don't like the shape of a tele, but love LP. The headstock tho, I fancy the otherway around strat body and tele neck. That would look killer.
Nice one 😄 Keith Richards would be proud 😉ive put a hosco w.r.b in my tele deluxe, and while its ok it doesn't necessarily have much top end sparkle! I think a 1 meg pot must play a big part 😃
After thinking for years it was a pipe dream (since Fender has never made them). I finally lucked into a builder who would do a starcaster body left handed for me. Built it last fall and have Novak WR with the Cunife upgrade/mod. The thing not only sounds phenomenal, but it's just feel and sound are just endlessly inspiring to play. It's a VERY hard guitar to put down.
Awesome video homie
Loved that intro jam mate. Awesome stuff!!!
Thanks mate!
Same guitar here in France, just discovered you. very cool and instructive video, for history and Madlove pickups. Keep going mate :)
It's my first time here, the opening music was awesome. I could tell you were a fellow Aussie from the opening song; well done.
Thanks mate!
Basement guitar player/recording artist (ha!) here. Big fan of Squier. I have a 2020 CV 50 Tele (those pickups sound great to me. Still thinking about putting in some Nocaster 51s and changing out the tuning machines, but again, that guitar sounds fantastic in my rig), 1985 MIJ Strat. I also have a Gibson Les Paul Jr. (1992) that I paid $250 for (fantastic headstock repair) with a P90, and a Squier Affinity JMHH which I modded with all black chrome hardware and new wiring. Thinking about putting better humbuckers in it, but also thinking about selling that. What I REALLY want is a Telecaster with CuNiFe pickups to round out my arsenal (of course, I still want to get something with "better" PAFs in it).
They want $2500 for a Fender thinline. I can find Squier Thinlines on Reverb here for $350-400. Spend another $425 on Fender CuNiFe pickups and 1 meg pots and I'm still under budget. I just can't see the Fender being $2000 better than something I customize myself. I mean, I'm not going on tour any time soon, so why spend the cash. Thanks for the tip on Madlove.
Terrific video mate! Well done.
owl man. great!!! whatsWhat setup configuration for this tone, please?
I love the Cunife in my 72 thinline. Clear as a bell, bright and jangly, or dirty and gritty, or sweet and bluesy, it can cover so many genres. But so can TV Jones Classics. My point is.. If it sounds good it is good. I do enjoy the reissue 72 with the Cunife reissues. They do a special thing, whatever that is. They sound good in a jazzmaster too. With a little compromise. Worth it though.
my baritone has Alnico Wide Range pickups, which is kinda blasphemy, but I really like their sound for djent, deathcore and stuff like that. great video, i've subbed
Wow, great video. I've got two sets of madloves in my JM's and they are fantastic!
Yo that pic of a forest very much of my area too. Sick guitar lad. Cant wait to start learning more about guitar
I have too many guitars to mention with all different sorts of pickups. I’m a single coil guy. But my favorite guitar is a a heavily modded Jag with wide range humbuckers. It’s my go-to for sure. So, there’s definitely something to be said about these pickups
"pay-tint"? I love my Aussie brothers and sisters, but I can't even with this pronunciation. 🤣
Seriously, though, this video is awesome, as is the intro song. Thanks for helping sell me on some Madloves!
great video man, interesting tone, fun to listen to.
Thanks!
Great job on the history of Wide Range humbuckers. Like you I am also searching for an in-between that has Fender single coil sparkle and PAF Humbucker girth. Haven’t tried Wide Range humbuckers yet because until now none that I knew of actually used CuNiFe. Thanks for letting us know about Madlove‘s offerings. Fender is now selling aftermarket CuNiFe pickups as well.
I played a bunch of guitars with the new CuNiFe pickups to see if I wanted to put one in the neck of my custom tele shaped thing, but ultimately decided on a Lindy Fralin Big Single. I liked the sound better and the price is better.
I feel like the WRHBs have been very popular for a while tbh? maybe less amongst the traditional rock crowd, but hipsters have loved these for forever, or at least that is my impression of things lol. I think i might throw one of these into my blacktop jazzmaster in the bridge position to go with the jazzmaster sized p90 i have in the neck position- your review and demo has been very helpful!
Fantastic intro piece of music ! Thanks a lot !
Feels good man
I remember the first time I heard wide range pickups and wanted to know what they were was seeing Damien Rice live, he’s usually an acoustic guy (though he used to get a little heavy live even with an acoustic by using a rat & muff combo) but he pulled out an old beaten up black tele custom ‘72 for some full band stuff and basically kept it in the neck position the entire time, sounded killer and really unique. I’d never seen or heard pickups like it so I had to look it up after. I genuinely think it’s the only pick-up I really actually like in the neck position.
Also I’ve always called CuNiFe like [kuh-knife] but I’ve not got a clue if that’s right. The only other company I can think of that makes proper CuNiFe wide range pickups is here in the U.K. called The Creamery, other than that I really don’t think there’s any other makers. I believe the Creamery manufacturers their CuNiFe in house though, as they describe it as ‘custom manufactured’. They make a few pickups with CuNiFe options, even bass pickups, and similarly to Madlove regular humbucker sized.
I’m also glad to hear someone else is into those big ridiculous oversized ‘70s headstocks, love them.
Also at like 19:30 was that the limelight being kicked on?
I completely forgot to mention the creamery when doing the video, but yes I had heard about their WRBHs. Didn’t know they offered such a range tho. Big headstocks are honestly my favourites on fenders. I know a lot of people hate it, but I love the vibe of fenders 70s output. I have heard that the build quality in that era was pretty bad, but thankfully there are plenty of lawsuit era Japanese guitars from that time to pick through. And no, at 19:30 it was actually the halberd. I love the limelight, but the halberd has been a real mainstay for me lately.
Koo-nif-eeeeeee
I just at discovered WRHB because of my Line 6 Shuriken SR270 guitar and in workbench hd you can virtually swap out pickups, etc. so I finally got time to set up an experiment with a ghost/neutral body + any pickup and mapped all available in workbench HD to pickup selector switch/user bank combos and anyway - the wide range humbucker is my favorite for distorted electric guitar, for a really raw, wild naked, full range of frequencies. Makes me want to play punk, grunge or blues especially, they’d sound so good in those applications. Also reminds me of a Steve Albini type of tone that he even uses in his bands. I can imagine this wide range pick up thru a cranked tube hi-watt or $fender maybe with a tube-screamer boost
It’s funny you mentioned Albini, because the original WRHB was the basis for the humbuckers in Travis Bean Guitars, of which Steve has used a lot in his bands.
Great video and thanks for the kind words❤❤
Thank YOU for the awesome pickups! ❤️
Me too Im well into them..... personally think a 70s thinline Tele with them is unreal 😎👍
Graham Coxon mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
nice! I wonder how they would sound with a set of stringjoys
Good channel. Found you when I was looking for a No Face review. Ended up getting that pedal after your great demo.
I agree about the awesomeness of wide range, but they have to be CuNiFe and not one of the AlNiCo copies, or they're not going to sound right. I've got a pair of the Fender ones and I'm currently in the process of building a loaded pickguard to drop into my Deluxe.
What camera do you use?
cool video I did not know that the vintage ones were so different. for me as far as favorite pickup its either a bridge p90 or a neck humbucker. in love with both. also cant get over strat position 4 with an hss.
Great video! I am interested in trying out Wide Range Humbuckers on my baritone build im working on.
rip off the scab and admit you are a bass player!
You got me. I'm a dingwall loving drop a bass player.
love seeing this video. i have the black on black of the same guitar. its my number 1! the pickups and neck...my other guitars just dont compare...
and then i get to the part where i find out you dont have the stock ones lmao
Just put some cunife Fender reissues in my Mex Deluxe Tele with 1 meg pots. I own and have owned lots of nice guitars over the years, mainly Gibson's and Fender's and this guitar is possibly the best sounding guitar I've ever owned. The bridge pickup is unsurpassed! If I have a slight criticism, the neck pickup could do with being a bit tighter, would like to try an underwound one in this position, maybe a lollar Regal
Try a “no load” tone pot, might do the trick with the neck pup
Interesting video! I have a MIJ 2012 Fender pawn shop ‘72 with a WRH in neck position, I guess no CuNiFe there…
What 1 meg pots did you use?
Would you try 1 M pots with other single coils, or a p90?
Where can you buy cheaper wide range pickups?
trust this guy... he knows what he's talking about... greath video dude
Thanks man!
Listen to ''Night Train'' by Tab Benoit for the best example of what these pickups can do in the right hands.
He plays a stock '72 thinline with no pedals or effects at all.
Howdy,
What is your go to pick up hight for these pickups?
You’re smoking, man. Lollar pickups that used to be based right here where I live in WA have been doing this for over a decade. I have an overwound set from them. Been rocking the 72 deluxe reissue for a very long time now.
Lollars WRHB, while I’m sure are amazing, don’t use CuNiFe, they use a mix of alnico and FeCrCo magnets. A lot of industries switched to using FeCrCo when CuNiFe become unavailable, and it’s generally seen as the next best option to CuNiFe for WHRB. It’s paired with Alnico to help tame the harsh high end FeCrCo magnets tend to have. Lollar pickups are great though, I have a set of their Blademaster pickups in my Jazzmaster. Also I quit smoking.
Whoa whoa, man. The perfect middle ground between single coils and Humbuckers are P90s. :) in all seriousness, nice to hear others opinions on different pickups.
OP has a point, WRH does not have the humming as p90 does, hence he put it as the middle ground.
@@cpamiseso there are stacked p90's which are humless similarly to fenders noiseless singlecoils.
I have a 2006 Mexican Tele Deluxe, I have never had the pleasure of playing through real Wide Range Humbuckers but the ones that came in my Tele suck, they sound thin and lifeless compared to some of the other humbuckers I have including but not limited to the 1971 Gibson SG with Tar Backs, I have a Les Paul with T-Tops, A lawsuit Univox LP copy with pickups that sound almost identical to my late 60's patent sicker T-Top which is in another Japanese Lawsuit LP Copy, I also have some 1972 Maxon pickups from a Matsumoku made Epiphone which I put in a Squire Strat that all smoke my Mexican Tele wide ranges. I wish I could try some real vintage wide ranges but I don't have the finances to make this happen.
I am only concerned about my own mind. I bought a MIM semi hollow ashbody Tele in the US about 20 years ago, with 2 WR HB pickups, and it sounded terrible.
It had no ´bite´ what so ever, and I sold it after a month. Later I have learned that it is a good idea to use 1M volume pots on those PUs, and Squire had a period
using 300K, maybe that could be the reason.
They sounds good in this video though. I any case I think the size is a problem, they fit nowhere. My ism are FilterTrons at the moment.
The 1 Meg pots are pretty crucial to getting the most out of them. The size is definitely an issue tho, if you don’t like the few guitars they fit in, it’s too bad so sad.
if they were mim wide ranges they were likely to be closer to pafs in construction
@@madloveaudiodevices1411 yes that too
For some reason I really don't like the shape of a tele, but love LP. The headstock tho, I fancy the otherway around strat body and tele neck. That would look killer.
OOO, nice stereo, bro.
Nice one 😄 Keith Richards would be proud 😉ive put a hosco w.r.b in my tele deluxe, and while its ok it doesn't necessarily have much top end sparkle! I think a 1 meg pot must play a big part 😃
After thinking for years it was a pipe dream (since Fender has never made them). I finally lucked into a builder who would do a starcaster body left handed for me. Built it last fall and have Novak WR with the Cunife upgrade/mod. The thing not only sounds phenomenal, but it's just feel and sound are just endlessly inspiring to play. It's a VERY hard guitar to put down.
P90 are equivalent to me with more clarity. I do not concur.
To each their own my friend. P90s are sick, but they are often too midrangey for my taste. Maybe I just haven’t tried the right ones.
P90s are woolly !?
I spy with my little eye, an EAE sticky
Gotta do it for the lads
Indeed You look 45, dude
Novaks have a CuNiFe option.
DiMarzio. Super distortion. PAF pro.
Are you for real these new one are fake as fluck
Too bad they're on such a crap guitar.
Ok buddy
you have a point, why does it not have a telecaster headstock? I suppose it has a massive swimming pool route?