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Pete ive been looking at these for the last two years. now her in texas you can still find SOME because no one wanted them until this year. good work. i'm working on a response video on this
Its unbelievable to me that for over 10 years, nobody wanted most of these games. GameStop almost couldnt give them away. I have about 200-250 360 games (barely any sports/COD type of games that were printed in the millions) and my average cost is under $5 per game. This is also going to happen to the Wii and PS3 (again), it's about to be 20 years for all of them and thats when the boom normally happens.
IME they still don't sell for these prices in brick and mortar stores. There has been a copy of Tenchu Z at a local place for about 28USD for longer than I can remember.
Bar the technical rrod fiasco that made owners run like hell. Imo this was the start of the downfall among other reasons like the catastrofic focus of the one on kinect and sports, no games etc,...
OG Xbox was the goat. It just had this attitude that hit different. Also so many exclusives and best place for multiplats. It was made by a bunch of guys that just wanted to make something badass and somehow convinced Bill Gates to let them. And it shows.
@@bmaga123 Yeah I can totally understand your opinion. They really refined things, Xbox live was slappin. I think UI slowly went downhill after the Blades but its was still usable. I just wish they comitted. OG Xbox didnt need a massive UI but I love the idea that your console is like this powerful reactor and the boot up sequence looking like their is this highly dangerous unknown green substance powering your system is just friggin cool.
@@DavidWhitley the only knobbish thing done in that comment was spell "here" using the homophone "hear". And for that, I deeply apologize to you and anyone else who read it.
it makes my stomach sick that people are buying these games for the sole purpose of profit, depriving those people who are genuinely interested in playing the game and reliving nostalgia
It's occurring in the UK too. Since his last two videos about 360, there have been massive sales on all of the games he's mentioned, they're 100% resellers.
Will you play the game? Will you enjoy? Yes, pay the price. No? is expensive cus it's "rare", skip it. Video games are not investments. That that 15-100$ and invest it in stocks. Buy what you love. I learned that in the 80's with the B&W indie comic book glut. just cuz it's rare doesn't mean it will hold it's value, and if the comic sucks, no one will want it for .25 cents once the FOMO has died. A game has to have game play value for it to keep it's worth. Alien Breed Trilogy is an example of a game worth buying and keeping, because it has replayabilty, and it's complete, and most importantly fun
I agree. Buy the games for fun, not because you think you'll "profit". I've done this in other markets and the swells are often a flash in the pan. Things inflate for a while, then they deflate, and then they don't come back because people moved onto the next thing. I've been left holding the bag before, and people won't learn until they themselves are left holding the bag, too.
I have a decent amount that I bought into sealed games because I like the concept of it and hope that the value doesn't decrease really or I don't see that happening compared to open box. But yeah the prices of some games is kinda crazy when you can get the pc version for much cheaper. Granted some which have a 360 version as well as an original version, 360 one is worth because you can actually earn achievements but that's more for yourself than anyone else caring now
i think xbox 360 physical games are more desirable due to the difficulty of hacking the console. unlike the wii or ps3, you can’t just soft mod it and put every single game ever made on it for free.
360 games are also harder to find in good condition. The cases were cheap and the disc wasn’t blu ray like the ps3 so the 360 discs scratched very easily.
@@nintendylan7449 Also the hubs of the discs cracking. I've never had a problem with ps3 games with it but I've lost count of the number of 360 games I've had to return over it.
@@nintendylan7449I remember after 2008 SOOO MANY 360 games started shipping with those eco friendly cases that were compete shit. Didn’t protect your disc and some of them cracked the plastic around the hole. PS3 and Wii had normal cases.
@@nintendylan7449don’t even get me started on the xbox 360 and scratched discs. 11 year old me was utterly devastated to find out what happens when you move the console with a disc inside (ring scratches 😭)
Funny how a few years ago people were practically giving away their Xbox 360 collections on fb marketplace and resellers would avoid buying them because it wouldn’t sell for them. Resellers were so focused on picking up Nintendo and Sony related retro games that I was able to scoop up a lot of my collection through marketplace. Friends and family members would ask why are you buying these games that nobody wants. My response was “ the games are dirt cheap and the 360 has an amazing library of games” I knew eventually 360 games would sky rocket in price at some point and I’m glad I picked up pretty much all the games I wanted. Especially all the jrpgs. My favourite system to collect for sure!!
I've been trying to buy some of the remaining 360 stuff I've wanted for the past year without having to resort to eBay and its been tough. Game stores and expos just never seemed to have the stuff I was looking for. I eventually did start buying some off eBay and I am glad I did, because the data you have been showing has been spot on!
It's at that point where people who grew up with the system now have jobs and want to buy games for it again. Same thing happened to the GameCube when it turned 20, the prices got insane, coupled with the pandemic
Have you noticed every time you go to search up a sort of uncommon type of game, almost all of the available copies are from Canada if you are in USA. It’s like these games don’t exist within the US.
Canada is in a recession, so people are not buying much these days. I sell on eBay in Canada and I can see tons of cheap games in Canada, when you look up the USA cost it's twice to three times more.
@@warehousedave7937 I don't remember seeing them in stores in the Midwest. Small town USA though but still, nope. I have a good memory with games, and don't remember the boxart etc where I lived. Some smaller distributors might have bought a small amount for their own store etc. ???? I NEVER saw 1 copy of tales of destiny 2 where I lived. 😡
Great breakdown and discussion as usual. Looks like we are quickly experiencing the fallout of digital stuff disappearing. If we go to an all digital future we won't even have the option to go back and reclaim physical copies for future play like we do now. Kinda crazy to think about....
360 games infamous for easy 1k gamerscore are also ones to look out for. 3 that i picked up that are potentially uncommon and fit that are Brave: a warriors tale, Asterix at the olympic and possibly night at the museum.
Peter Jackson's King Kong is £15 currently and is ez 1k I just bought night of the museum 2 for about 18 I didn't see many listings mostly just the movie lol
This is nonsense. It's sensationalism that's artificially inflating the market for certain games based on driving FOMO. When RUclipsrs and influencers do stuff like this, it's really market manipulation for no good reason. What they won't tell you is that *they* are the ones driving the demand--not the market itself. Markets don't magically behave drastically for no reason--they're always guided. The fact is that the vast majority of games for the 360 are still cheap or at reasonable prices--and are obviously available. Yall don't even know what it means for things to "dry up". Try collecting for NeoGeo and report your results on prices and availability. Too wild? Try the Saturn. Wait, still too wild? Then try for the PS2. Oh look, guess what we learned today? Collecting for the 360 is obviously the cheapest to collect for, and the games are far from "drying up". So yeah, if you think things are getting crazy for the 360, you're being a clown. Go get some perspective on real collectors consoles and games and then you'll understand that even with the prices going up for certain games, 360 is still peanuts with high supply. Or if you want some real fun, try getting into the vintage music gear market and tell me how available and affordable things are. And yes, the RUclipsrs (we call 'em GearTubers) ruin that market, too. I bought a Roland MS-1 back in 2018 for $100 and remember not being able to find a single one anywhere on the internet for a couple years between then and now. I've never once experienced anything close to that for a single video game on the major classic consoles. Like I said, yall *really* don't know what it means for things to dry up. I also bought an Akai S-612 in 2018 for $40. Checked on price in 2020 and found only one online for over $2,000. So don't listen to these guys. I see them come up in my recommended, listen to the clownery, and have to offer a rational perspective. The supply and demand is fine--don't let these guys fool you.
It's about time someone says it, so I agree with you. If it weren't for these youtubers creating artificial scarcity there wouldn't be prices rising like this on certain games. Before the videos most of these games cost a fraction of what people are listing them for. It's disgusting. Also I agree with you that compared to other systems like Saturn and Neo Geo, 360 games are hardly scarce. Maybe these RUclipsrs should stop with the fomo shit.
It’s actually quite amusing seeing the prices for all these absolute garbage shovelware games that literally no one gave a hoot about before get jacked up like they’re actually worth something. I give it about a year till these games go back to being $5 or less once these people realize that no one wants to buy their bottom of the barrel bargain bin shovelware game for $100 or more…
Some games don't even have all the data in the disc, so when the servers eventually shut down to download the rest of the data, we will be forced to migrate to the newer Xbox backwards compatibility mode until that shuts down too.
Yep, Ridge Racer 6 is a GREAT example... When it was added to BackCompat I looked on ebay and their was literally TWO UK copies (actually it seemed like 2 in general actually) and they were both about AUD$200... Cut forward about 6-12 Months and their was a TON of copies and I grabbed an Australian copy MINT CIB for around AUD$50 including shipping.
Lmao that’s why I bought a hacked RGH 360 last year. I can even download unlisted games like rockband Blitz and many others plus all DLC for free. But I know many people don’t like to pirate or hack. lol but I do
I used to buy games for the 360 and buy 2. Keep one sealed. Later I got more but always 2 (back when they were cheap) I’ll never sell though. So I don’t price anything to see what it’s worth. This video was fascinating. Enjoy your content. I’m totally burned out on new stuff. Just love the old stuff.
Great video Pete! I noticed also that prices are going up and games are just not available on eBay at all! Really enjoying the Xbox content! Great system and under loved imo. Look forward to the Xbox one videos
360 is a wild one for sure you had the BC program, The pandemic and now the nostalgia is hitting ups and downs but a trend upwards and alot hard not to get caught out. The xbox market has changed the console cycle or at least prolonged it ect interesting to see the future of how it will play out. But definitely if want 360 research build that list and get hunting or maybe you use the opportunity to go PS3 if looking for some cooling off prices still HDMI ect Who knows what sony might do they crazy 🤪 lol but the most important thing is you do you and dont rush into any rash decisions. Good video thanks 😊
A lot of Xbox 360 games went up in prices when 76 new games got added to the backward compatibility list on Xbox and Halo's 20th Anniversary. Recently, Spec Ops the Line was delisted from digital stores, and the game price skyrocketed online. I've been building up my Xbox 360 Collection since 2021 and am going strong.
Super old news. Spec Ops has like 100 available on eBay now and most of the games that got a bump from B/C have settled down and it's the actually rare titles that are going bonkers right now.
This feels like my redemption arc, I have a near complete 360 collection (With all regional exclusives) and for the longest time, people asked me "Why?", to which I told them that it was my favorite system of all time. Now everyone is getting nostalgic for it 😂
I’m in Australia and the games that have dried up for me have been Blades of Time, X Blades and Fatal Inertia. Only ones available have Italian covers with no English on the cover at all. Just thankful that I collected over 350 XB360 games prior to the fomo. What I’m concentrating on now because we’re quickly running out of time is DLC. That’s something that’s going to be gone forever no matter how much disposable money we have.
That's exactly what these videos are designed for. Rarely does a content creator ever make videos to "help" others. Self-interest is and always will be the key in the game of markets.
I dont worry too much if price increase today becomes it can always come done. I was looking into 2 games back in October/November and i thought the prices was too high and waited. In February i notice they were at a good price and got them.
Great video, sir! I an glad to see others have caught on to using available listings as a rarity gauge. I hate to sound like a hipster, but I began collecting 360 before it was cool. (4+years ago I began) 😅 I have a library of around 430, including the uncommon and rare titles. The prices now trip me out, because I bought a lot of them in the 5-10 dollar range. Fatal Inertia in particular was widely available and cheap for a long time, so its rise took even me by surprise.
You nailed it about being burned out on new games, games just seem unfinished and devs seem to be concentrating making games graphically impressive using new techniques at the cost of performance and gameplay, just not worth it imo if the systems can't do it very well.
Retro gaming is really on the rise (and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are considered retro consoles now they are almost 20 years old) now because like you said, The burn out with modern gaming is real. Ppl are sick of the day one patches, constant updates, always online etc. paying these ridiculous prices for content that should have shipped with the game. Also another problem with modern gaming is what i like to call the ubisoft effect. Games are just getting too bloated with content. FF7 Rebirth is a perfect example. That game felt bloated. Like I was playing an Assassin's Creed game. As I get older, I want to play games that respect my time. I'm not a 17 year old kid with all the time in the world, I'm in my 40s and I have responsibilities. and a lot of what you do in these types of open world RPGs just feels like a waste of time. They basically just turn everything into a mini game. I miss when games were just linear. People are going back to older games because it just brings up back to a simpler time. Lately I have playing a lot of PS2 games again. and have gone back into collecting games for the PS2.
well i bought a ton of 360 games about 7 or 8 years ago. so i kinda got all the games id actually want to play. many of the rare games pete showed i have no desire to own or play
Great vids. First i got wartech for 10$ canadian from last video and today i got infernal hells vengeance and a new copy of 99 nights ii for 10$ each locally👍
Damn my boy Pete really shat on the Ps3 lmao, but i agree 360 clearly was favoured in getting more releases. Although i think Ps3 had better exclusives.
@@sasoriobinnamii9223 infamous, little big planet, heavy rain (pre 2018), beyond two souls, metal gear, killzone, resistance, gran torismo, Yakuza, lmao do you want me to keep going? These have all won multiple awards and some even game of the year lol
I've seen this trend year after year collecting. Early bird gets the worm, I luckily got all the ps3 and xbox 360 games I wanted a few years ago. Great video Pete always enjoy these types of videos
Amazing video! I’ve been taking your advice over the past year and it keeps paying off. You’re right on the money with what’s going on and your market analysis is the one I trust the most! I’m in Canada and definitely feel the sky-high shipping prices. Especially shipping within Canada. If I were to ship a tracked parcel to an address down the street, it costs over twice as much as it would to ship to anywhere in the US. It’s kinda crazy. No wonder Canadians aren’t buying Canadian listings that much.
I'm glad i bought all those Xbox 360 games from GameStop when they were really cheap. i remember when the ps3 hype was going on with all the games going up in price and was thinking the same thing i glad i was buying all these games for cheap not necessarily for collecting but I love that generation of games.
I've been keeping an eye on it on eBay for a month and I think only a single complete copy has been listed. It's probably the rarest game that Pete mentioned in this video.
I seen a video in 2018 or 2019 or so that said buy as many 360 and ps3 games as you can afford I wish I took the advice but i didn’t really have the extra money at the time
So annoyed that this is starting to happen. Knew it was coming but this is the main console I collect for because I’m an achievement hunter. Glad I have as big of a library as I do but there’s still many games I need that are just booming in price right now
I'm not really buying rare 360 games but more or less games that I've never played back then due to me simply being uninterested. Just bought Darksiders 2 and Fable Anniversary. Beats purchasing a modern $70 broken game truthfully.
Autbobahn used to be a bit more expensive and was for a while. Not a bad game, used to have it but it was nothing special. I can get some of these games at local stores for the 'old' prices, been sitting there forever. Not really interested in 360 collecting but maybe it's worth it.
I’m all in on switch collecting and feel like that will be the better of the 2 consoles for games preservation and long term valuation of game prices. Heck most of my collection is way more valuable than anything I have ever owned on the 360 or could go out and buy on the 360
Yep, ps4 market is hot right now. Some "common" ones that you saw everywhere are getting more and more scarce. The expensive ones are being sold at their list prices too.
The 360 heating up made me think to jump in ps4……train hasn’t taken off completely but it has definitely left the station and gaining momentum. Look at “a way out” boomed in the last month.
I wanted to get Ninety Nine Nights 2 and Beautiful Katamari but noticed those prices going up more and more. There is an option to get them digitally which I might do because the game discs on ebay tend to have lot of scratches.
I remember passing on Autobahn Polizei in stores for the stupid reason that it had cars that resembled real cars but which weren't licensed by the manufacturers. I wouldn't pay what it sells for now but I regret not buying it 15-ish years ago since I think I would've enjoyed it despite the lack of logos on the cars. Also, for people that haven't played it, don't let the cheap price put you off, Project Gotham Racing 4 is still one of my overall favourite racing games, especially because I loved seeing Quebec City appear as a location in a racing game. I wish that Project Gotham Racing, once the XBox's marquee racing franchise, had gotten more games after PGR 4.
I found a used 360 Slim for $25 (console only) right around the time your first video about the coming "360 apocalypse" was uploaded and I started collecting games for it immediately. I'm glad I started then because I'm definitely starting to see how much more expensive things are becoming in the last couple of months.
@@pistolgrabber01 yeah definitely, I have the majority of what I was looking for at this point so there's just a few games here and there I'm still interested in picking up
In Brazil, it is even worse. They did not sell many Xboxes or 360s here. The end of the 360 and the Xbox One is okay, but it was not before. Black is about 100 dollars, which is bizarre when compare to the expansive 20 dollar I found (I would pay today black and Indiana for this price today from Feb24 Orlando)
For me, the 360 is my all time fav console. It revolutionized gaming for me. I had moved to a different state and the 360 kept me in touch with my friends by gaming with them and also making new friends. I enjoy a number of different games from Retro to Current and the 360 just had it all imo. I've been collecting for the 360 since 2018 grabbing games I've played and games I never knew existed. I've amassed over 300+ games on it so far making it the most physical games I own for any single console. I appreciate the tips on certain games. I'm at the point where thankfully my collection is where I want it to be minus some very rare shooters I'd prolly end up never owning unless I cough up a ton of money.
Hi, new subscriber here. Been lurking. Just wondering if you think the demand, rarity and price for PAL Xbox 360 games will go up also? And do you think it’ll be less or just as much as North American versions?
I live in a remote area where i get 25mb down and 10 up so downloading a brandnew game thats 120gb on average takes me a day if not 2, but with a xbox 360 any patches that they have are under 1 gb, and are pretty much plug and play. Especially for me I missed out on a bunch of games when i was in the Teens that i wanted to play so it's a mix of fomo and a mix of just wanting to actually play and have a nice collection.
I collect Xbox 360 been for the last 10 years I’m so glad I did I got over 200 games for 2 and 3 dollars I only buy ones I want to play I don’t fall into the rare if it’s not a good game it’s pointless great vid 👍
I disagree for Project Sylpheed because the print run is low in NA (100 000) and abyssmal for other regions ( only 10 000 in Europe), I don't see it coming back down after the currrent spike from 6$ CIB in April 2024 to 30$ in July and still going.
One thing I have noticed about Xbox 360 games is that MANY of the discs are extremely brittle. I was shocked at how easily they break from just droppig them a few inches or even just pushing them into the locking mechanism in the case or even just taking them out of the case. I broke like 30 Xbox 360 games just taking them out of the case and it's just getting worse every year. :/ The disc material is literally disintegrating. At least in the climate here in Sweden.
Found Fatal Inertia in a charity shop for £2 about 5 months ago, I think at the time I checked CEX and they were selling for £8 today £10 and looking on ebay in the UK the low copies are £40.
2:41 No, people are buying copies within Australia. For someone who makes a lot of videos about looking on ebay you should be able to tell what your search results mean.
I love these videos. The fear and uncertainty that many casual gamers will go through as they can't find those physical niche or uncommon titles for reasonable prices is now a thing of the past. I've been buying up 360 games ever since Sony announced they were going to close the PS3 store 3 years ago and once prices started spiking that should have been a wake up call to everyone that this was going to happen with xbox360 store also. You snooze, you lose.
You can have all the copies of Infernal you want game is molten ass I do have N2 I got when the Disc Replay here went out of business kicking myself for not taking this more seriously God damnit. It's funny you mention season passes, because when I first hear that I immediately think of the OG season passes, Gears of War 3 and Bioshock Infinite.
Thing with the Backwards Compatability and "Forward Compatability" is the Xbox is gonna have to stay afloat. I have my doubts. Don Mattrick really screwed the brand. And even if it is as true as I want it to be... they'll find a way to monetize it eventually.
I got a lot for my games from buying them from people who work at storage places because when they don't sell at an auction, the workers have to throw the stuff away, and I get them for dirt cheap
Why should i care about games ive never heard of and you even disclaim in the video these are games we've probably never heard of going missing or hard to find. If for historical purposes people should post the disk dumps online so it's downloadable for others
@@warehousedave7937 Of course they will be good. It's the fear tactic that people can't find them regardless of price. But then that fomo kicks in like dopamine once they see it come back in stock. Even if the price is so much higher than it used to be. I kinda wonder if I should get in on PS3 buying early, just in case PS ever does full backwards compatibility. But I've already done that a little and it hasn't worked out so far.
@@Amadeus_ Start accumulating niche PS4 horrors, I wouldn't bother with the well-known mainstream ones (for example, Until Dawn). Obviously, this is a long way off from now, but there are still plenty of affordable and brand-new copies.
I'm mostly collecting eu 360 games because I am from there. Only needed 6 us exclusives which I'm only missing one of now. Jp ones i'm almost there aswell.
I just got a nice crt tv with component and s video so i got all my old consoles set up. Been collecting for a long time but 360 was always just kinda tucked away in my entertainment center, now that I'm getting back into it I've been astonished with some of the prices. Makes sense though it usually goes this way about 20 years or so after release.
Surprised to hear about Tenchu Z my sis bought it when it came out and she let me borrow it I liked it so much I 100% the achievements then went and bought a pre owned copy at GameStop later on cheap that I've never played that has set on my shelf for god knows how many years. Super happy to hear about its price situation was such a fun game I'm proud to own.
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Pete ive been looking at these for the last two years. now her in texas you can still find SOME because no one wanted them until this year. good work. i'm working on a response video on this
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Its unbelievable to me that for over 10 years, nobody wanted most of these games. GameStop almost couldnt give them away. I have about 200-250 360 games (barely any sports/COD type of games that were printed in the millions) and my average cost is under $5 per game. This is also going to happen to the Wii and PS3 (again), it's about to be 20 years for all of them and thats when the boom normally happens.
IME they still don't sell for these prices in brick and mortar stores. There has been a copy of Tenchu Z at a local place for about 28USD for longer than I can remember.
yup, goes from being wanted because new, to not being wanted because old, to being wanted because old.
Xbox 360 is the best Xbox system Microsoft ever created, IMO. It's one generation I preferred Xbox to Playstation!
Bar the technical rrod fiasco that made owners run like hell. Imo this was the start of the downfall among other reasons like the catastrofic focus of the one on kinect and sports, no games etc,...
OG Xbox was the goat. It just had this attitude that hit different. Also so many exclusives and best place for multiplats. It was made by a bunch of guys that just wanted to make something badass and somehow convinced Bill Gates to let them. And it shows.
@alyxoj1361 I love the OG Xbox, but the 360 was Microsoft at its peak. They perfected Xbox live, the interface, and controller IMO!
@@bmaga123 Yeah I can totally understand your opinion. They really refined things, Xbox live was slappin. I think UI slowly went downhill after the Blades but its was still usable. I just wish they comitted. OG Xbox didnt need a massive UI but I love the idea that your console is like this powerful reactor and the boot up sequence looking like their is this highly dangerous unknown green substance powering your system is just friggin cool.
Sad what happened to Xbox. They could’ve taken over, but then Don mattrick or whatever put Xbox almost on it’s death bed
I recently found Peter Jackson King Kong for 360 at Goodwill for 2.99. Had no idea about the value of the game until after I bought it.
I had the same find at a Half Price Books recently as well.
I found some good stuff at goodwill.i got couple games in the past.now I found sports game I won't get
So lucky bro
This is literally what happened to the 3ds, it’s pure FOMO and the price will drop back down.
Nothing drove more fear in me than when Pete said “the Xbox 360 is almost 20 years old now”.
And that's exactly what he's hear to do: drive fear. Don't let these RUclipsrs play you.
we're almost at the point where the 360 is as old now as the NES was when it was new
@@lukeautosymbol2668 dont be a knob
@@DavidWhitley the only knobbish thing done in that comment was spell "here" using the homophone "hear". And for that, I deeply apologize to you and anyone else who read it.
I've seen hundreds of petedorr videos and this is the first one I've seen that didn't begin with "all right hey guys"
Threw me off lol
it makes my stomach sick that people are buying these games for the sole purpose of profit, depriving those people who are genuinely interested in playing the game and reliving nostalgia
cry some more 😭
Should have bought sooner. Sorry.
Yes me too.
It's occurring in the UK too. Since his last two videos about 360, there have been massive sales on all of the games he's mentioned, they're 100% resellers.
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Will you play the game? Will you enjoy? Yes, pay the price. No? is expensive cus it's "rare", skip it. Video games are not investments. That that 15-100$ and invest it in stocks.
Buy what you love. I learned that in the 80's with the B&W indie comic book glut. just cuz it's rare doesn't mean it will hold it's value, and if the comic sucks, no one will want it for .25 cents once the FOMO has died.
A game has to have game play value for it to keep it's worth. Alien Breed Trilogy is an example of a game worth buying and keeping, because it has replayabilty, and it's complete, and most importantly fun
I agree. Buy the games for fun, not because you think you'll "profit". I've done this in other markets and the swells are often a flash in the pan. Things inflate for a while, then they deflate, and then they don't come back because people moved onto the next thing. I've been left holding the bag before, and people won't learn until they themselves are left holding the bag, too.
I have a decent amount that I bought into sealed games because I like the concept of it and hope that the value doesn't decrease really or I don't see that happening compared to open box. But yeah the prices of some games is kinda crazy when you can get the pc version for much cheaper. Granted some which have a 360 version as well as an original version, 360 one is worth because you can actually earn achievements but that's more for yourself than anyone else caring now
Xbox 360 is one of my favourite retro consoles still enjoy collecting for it and finding hidden gems!
I prefer launch PS4 retro collecting myself 😅
@@EntertainMeTV PS4 isn't retro yet though 😅
@@wizzgamer neither is x360
@@chaosdimension6433 It's almost 20 years old of course it is it just looks fairly modern graphically due to less advancements these days.
@@wizzgamer nothing with hd graphics, hdmi, user accounts and digital downloads feels retro, it even has GTA V lol
i think xbox 360 physical games are more desirable due to the difficulty of hacking the console. unlike the wii or ps3, you can’t just soft mod it and put every single game ever made on it for free.
360 games are also harder to find in good condition. The cases were cheap and the disc wasn’t blu ray like the ps3 so the 360 discs scratched very easily.
@@nintendylan7449 Also the hubs of the discs cracking. I've never had a problem with ps3 games with it but I've lost count of the number of 360 games I've had to return over it.
Lost Odyssey is selling a ton right now.
@@nintendylan7449I remember after 2008 SOOO MANY 360 games started shipping with those eco friendly cases that were compete shit. Didn’t protect your disc and some of them cracked the plastic around the hole. PS3 and Wii had normal cases.
@@nintendylan7449don’t even get me started on the xbox 360 and scratched discs. 11 year old me was utterly devastated to find out what happens when you move the console with a disc inside (ring scratches 😭)
Funny how a few years ago people were practically giving away their Xbox 360 collections on fb marketplace and resellers would avoid buying them because it wouldn’t sell for them. Resellers were so focused on picking up Nintendo and Sony related retro games that I was able to scoop up a lot of my collection through marketplace. Friends and family members would ask why are you buying these games that nobody wants. My response was “ the games are dirt cheap and the 360 has an amazing library of games” I knew eventually 360 games would sky rocket in price at some point and I’m glad I picked up pretty much all the games I wanted. Especially all the jrpgs. My favourite system to collect for sure!!
My man, you've got the resellers going wild in the UK with these vids 😕
I've been trying to buy some of the remaining 360 stuff I've wanted for the past year without having to resort to eBay and its been tough. Game stores and expos just never seemed to have the stuff I was looking for. I eventually did start buying some off eBay and I am glad I did, because the data you have been showing has been spot on!
It's at that point where people who grew up with the system now have jobs and want to buy games for it again. Same thing happened to the GameCube when it turned 20, the prices got insane, coupled with the pandemic
Have you noticed every time you go to search up a sort of uncommon type of game, almost all of the available copies are from Canada if you are in USA. It’s like these games don’t exist within the US.
Canada is in a recession, so people are not buying much these days. I sell on eBay in Canada and I can see tons of cheap games in Canada, when you look up the USA cost it's twice to three times more.
There are way more resellers/scalpers and collectors in the states than Canada. The greed is so real unfortunately.
Obelisk and asterix is like this. I don't think it was distributed in the United states
@@warehousedave7937 I don't remember seeing them in stores in the Midwest. Small town USA though but still, nope. I have a good memory with games, and don't remember the boxart etc where I lived. Some smaller distributors might have bought a small amount for their own store etc. ???? I NEVER saw 1 copy of tales of destiny 2 where I lived. 😡
@@vastneon That's what sponsored listings are.
Great breakdown and discussion as usual. Looks like we are quickly experiencing the fallout of digital stuff disappearing. If we go to an all digital future we won't even have the option to go back and reclaim physical copies for future play like we do now. Kinda crazy to think about....
I hate how current games don’t care about manuals 🥲
Look in the bright side. That’s one less piece you need for a complete collection.
Hey don't worry it's at this url! 😢
360 games infamous for easy 1k gamerscore are also ones to look out for. 3 that i picked up that are potentially uncommon and fit that are Brave: a warriors tale, Asterix at the olympic and possibly night at the museum.
Peter Jackson's King Kong is £15 currently and is ez 1k I just bought night of the museum 2 for about 18 I didn't see many listings mostly just the movie lol
@@hankhill2450 ooh thanks for the heads up
This is nonsense. It's sensationalism that's artificially inflating the market for certain games based on driving FOMO. When RUclipsrs and influencers do stuff like this, it's really market manipulation for no good reason. What they won't tell you is that *they* are the ones driving the demand--not the market itself. Markets don't magically behave drastically for no reason--they're always guided.
The fact is that the vast majority of games for the 360 are still cheap or at reasonable prices--and are obviously available. Yall don't even know what it means for things to "dry up". Try collecting for NeoGeo and report your results on prices and availability. Too wild? Try the Saturn. Wait, still too wild? Then try for the PS2.
Oh look, guess what we learned today? Collecting for the 360 is obviously the cheapest to collect for, and the games are far from "drying up".
So yeah, if you think things are getting crazy for the 360, you're being a clown. Go get some perspective on real collectors consoles and games and then you'll understand that even with the prices going up for certain games, 360 is still peanuts with high supply.
Or if you want some real fun, try getting into the vintage music gear market and tell me how available and affordable things are. And yes, the RUclipsrs (we call 'em GearTubers) ruin that market, too.
I bought a Roland MS-1 back in 2018 for $100 and remember not being able to find a single one anywhere on the internet for a couple years between then and now. I've never once experienced anything close to that for a single video game on the major classic consoles. Like I said, yall *really* don't know what it means for things to dry up. I also bought an Akai S-612 in 2018 for $40. Checked on price in 2020 and found only one online for over $2,000.
So don't listen to these guys. I see them come up in my recommended, listen to the clownery, and have to offer a rational perspective. The supply and demand is fine--don't let these guys fool you.
It's about time someone says it, so I agree with you. If it weren't for these youtubers creating artificial scarcity there wouldn't be prices rising like this on certain games. Before the videos most of these games cost a fraction of what people are listing them for. It's disgusting. Also I agree with you that compared to other systems like Saturn and Neo Geo, 360 games are hardly scarce. Maybe these RUclipsrs should stop with the fomo shit.
It’s actually quite amusing seeing the prices for all these absolute garbage shovelware games that literally no one gave a hoot about before get jacked up like they’re actually worth something. I give it about a year till these games go back to being $5 or less once these people realize that no one wants to buy their bottom of the barrel bargain bin shovelware game for $100 or more…
Some games don't even have all the data in the disc, so when the servers eventually shut down to download the rest of the data, we will be forced to migrate to the newer Xbox backwards compatibility mode until that shuts down too.
Mercari now passes on the service and processing fees to the consumer... It has killed itself for me.
Now it's just as expensive as eBay, that's why I haggle them down now since they can't use the selling fees as an excuse anymore.
This
That Trico plush is beautiful. Never knew a e3 plush existed. Now I have been on a 2 hour eBay rabbit hole, lol.
Yep, Ridge Racer 6 is a GREAT example... When it was added to BackCompat I looked on ebay and their was literally TWO UK copies (actually it seemed like 2 in general actually) and they were both about AUD$200... Cut forward about 6-12 Months and their was a TON of copies and I grabbed an Australian copy MINT CIB for around AUD$50 including shipping.
Gawd how many times I've seen Tenchu Z in bins all the time for $10.
Thanks for the frequent uploads. Having a hard time with things and this nostalgia hit is really helping.
Lmao that’s why I bought a hacked RGH 360 last year. I can even download unlisted games like rockband Blitz and many others plus all DLC for free. But I know many people don’t like to pirate or hack. lol but I do
I used to buy games for the 360 and buy 2. Keep one sealed. Later I got more but always 2 (back when they were cheap) I’ll never sell though. So I don’t price anything to see what it’s worth. This video was fascinating. Enjoy your content. I’m totally burned out on new stuff. Just love the old stuff.
So happy i picked up all the xbox 360 games i wanted about 2 years ago. Own them, all physical, forever.
Great video Pete! I noticed also that prices are going up and games are just not available on eBay at all! Really enjoying the Xbox content! Great system and under loved imo. Look forward to the Xbox one videos
360 is a wild one for sure you had the BC program, The pandemic and now the nostalgia is hitting ups and downs but a trend upwards and alot hard not to get caught out.
The xbox market has changed the console cycle or at least prolonged it ect interesting to see the future of how it will play out. But definitely if want 360 research build that list and get hunting or maybe you use the opportunity to go PS3 if looking for some cooling off prices still HDMI ect
Who knows what sony might do they crazy 🤪 lol but the most important thing is you do you and dont rush into any rash decisions.
Good video thanks 😊
A lot of Xbox 360 games went up in prices when 76 new games got added to the backward compatibility list on Xbox and Halo's 20th Anniversary.
Recently, Spec Ops the Line was delisted from digital stores, and the game price skyrocketed online.
I've been building up my Xbox 360 Collection since 2021 and am going strong.
Super old news. Spec Ops has like 100 available on eBay now and most of the games that got a bump from B/C have settled down and it's the actually rare titles that are going bonkers right now.
Yeah, I know, and Spec Ops the Line is up to $100 online and that's good that the bc game prices died down and yeah those rare ones though.
@@RokushoHasashi pull yourself together man!
This feels like my redemption arc, I have a near complete 360 collection (With all regional exclusives) and for the longest time, people asked me "Why?", to which I told them that it was my favorite system of all time. Now everyone is getting nostalgic for it 😂
I’m in Australia and the games that have dried up for me have been Blades of Time, X Blades and Fatal Inertia. Only ones available have Italian covers with no English on the cover at all. Just thankful that I collected over 350 XB360 games prior to the fomo. What I’m concentrating on now because we’re quickly running out of time is DLC. That’s something that’s going to be gone forever no matter how much disposable money we have.
On every console this happens when games are cheap noone cares you can buy later but when they get harder to find everything goes up from nowhere
I know where to find thousands and thousands of 360 games and I'm not talking about ebay.
Thanks to people like Peter for upping the prices for his own gain
That's exactly what these videos are designed for. Rarely does a content creator ever make videos to "help" others. Self-interest is and always will be the key in the game of markets.
Pete Dorr is a basement dwelling squid
I dont worry too much if price increase today becomes it can always come done. I was looking into 2 games back in October/November and i thought the prices was too high and waited. In February i notice they were at a good price and got them.
I pretty much "retired" from new system after the 360, it was perfect.
Same.my newest console😂
Great video, sir! I an glad to see others have caught on to using available listings as a rarity gauge. I hate to sound like a hipster, but I began collecting 360 before it was cool. (4+years ago I began) 😅 I have a library of around 430, including the uncommon and rare titles. The prices now trip me out, because I bought a lot of them in the 5-10 dollar range. Fatal Inertia in particular was widely available and cheap for a long time, so its rise took even me by surprise.
You nailed it about being burned out on new games, games just seem unfinished and devs seem to be concentrating making games graphically impressive using new techniques at the cost of performance and gameplay, just not worth it imo if the systems can't do it very well.
Seeing this is so wild - in the UK a lot of these "rare" games can still be bought new for less than RRP on Amazon.
Retro gaming is really on the rise (and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are considered retro consoles now they are almost 20 years old) now because like you said, The burn out with modern gaming is real. Ppl are sick of the day one patches, constant updates, always online etc. paying these ridiculous prices for content that should have shipped with the game. Also another problem with modern gaming is what i like to call the ubisoft effect. Games are just getting too bloated with content. FF7 Rebirth is a perfect example. That game felt bloated. Like I was playing an Assassin's Creed game. As I get older, I want to play games that respect my time. I'm not a 17 year old kid with all the time in the world, I'm in my 40s and I have responsibilities. and a lot of what you do in these types of open world RPGs just feels like a waste of time. They basically just turn everything into a mini game. I miss when games were just linear. People are going back to older games because it just brings up back to a simpler time. Lately I have playing a lot of PS2 games again. and have gone back into collecting games for the PS2.
well i bought a ton of 360 games about 7 or 8 years ago. so i kinda got all the games id actually want to play. many of the rare games pete showed i have no desire to own or play
Great vids. First i got wartech for 10$ canadian from last video and today i got infernal hells vengeance and a new copy of 99 nights ii for 10$ each locally👍
Damn my boy Pete really shat on the Ps3 lmao, but i agree 360 clearly was favoured in getting more releases. Although i think Ps3 had better exclusives.
Disagree, remove last of us, tales of xillia, gow3 and uncharted trilogy. Ps3 game library is pretty dry.
@@sasoriobinnamii9223 infamous, little big planet, heavy rain (pre 2018), beyond two souls, metal gear, killzone, resistance, gran torismo, Yakuza, lmao do you want me to keep going? These have all won multiple awards and some even game of the year lol
Lets all get along lol.@Sarcaasm
@Sarcaasm I do see ps3 also people will buy.ps3 and xbox 360 is cheap
I've seen this trend year after year collecting. Early bird gets the worm, I luckily got all the ps3 and xbox 360 games I wanted a few years ago. Great video Pete always enjoy these types of videos
Amazing video! I’ve been taking your advice over the past year and it keeps paying off. You’re right on the money with what’s going on and your market analysis is the one I trust the most!
I’m in Canada and definitely feel the sky-high shipping prices. Especially shipping within Canada. If I were to ship a tracked parcel to an address down the street, it costs over twice as much as it would to ship to anywhere in the US. It’s kinda crazy. No wonder Canadians aren’t buying Canadian listings that much.
I'm glad i bought all those Xbox 360 games from GameStop when they were really cheap. i remember when the ps3 hype was going on with all the games going up in price and was thinking the same thing i glad i was buying all these games for cheap not necessarily for collecting but I love that generation of games.
I was just playing fatal inertia the other day…
I bought it for 3.99 brand new
I've been keeping an eye on it on eBay for a month and I think only a single complete copy has been listed. It's probably the rarest game that Pete mentioned in this video.
Wow Gamezofwar? It's been years since you made a video. Good to see you online man. Hopefully you can make a xbox 360 video.
Good to see you back online. It's been years. Hopefully you still want to make videos
I seen a video in 2018 or 2019 or so that said buy as many 360 and ps3 games as you can afford I wish I took the advice but i didn’t really have the extra money at the time
I got fatal inertia case and disc for 20$ on Mercari a month ago when you made the video. Not letting it go
Partially because of videos like this!
Without videos like this, many of us wouldn’t even know the existence of these games.
So annoyed that this is starting to happen. Knew it was coming but this is the main console I collect for because I’m an achievement hunter. Glad I have as big of a library as I do but there’s still many games I need that are just booming in price right now
Can we get an updated Xbox/Xbox 360 collection video? Just started to collect 360 myself and I’d love to see what I should be getting. 😊
Second this ☝️
I'm not really buying rare 360 games but more or less games that I've never played back then due to me simply being uninterested. Just bought Darksiders 2 and Fable Anniversary. Beats purchasing a modern $70 broken game truthfully.
I should’ve bought Wet for 360 when it was $30 now it’s $150+
The naughty bear DLC was delisted in 2015
Autbobahn used to be a bit more expensive and was for a while. Not a bad game, used to have it but it was nothing special. I can get some of these games at local stores for the 'old' prices, been sitting there forever. Not really interested in 360 collecting but maybe it's worth it.
I’m all in on switch collecting and feel like that will be the better of the 2 consoles for games preservation and long term valuation of game prices. Heck most of my collection is way more valuable than anything I have ever owned on the 360 or could go out and buy on the 360
Switch collecting is going to be like the Wii .. first party games stay up and 3rd party games are super cheap
Yep, ps4 market is hot right now. Some "common" ones that you saw everywhere are getting more and more scarce. The expensive ones are being sold at their list prices too.
The 360 heating up made me think to jump in ps4……train hasn’t taken off completely but it has definitely left the station and gaining momentum. Look at “a way out” boomed in the last month.
I wanted to get Ninety Nine Nights 2 and Beautiful Katamari but noticed those prices going up more and more. There is an option to get them digitally which I might do because the game discs on ebay tend to have lot of scratches.
Do more videos in general please, Pete .They're great
I remember passing on Autobahn Polizei in stores for the stupid reason that it had cars that resembled real cars but which weren't licensed by the manufacturers. I wouldn't pay what it sells for now but I regret not buying it 15-ish years ago since I think I would've enjoyed it despite the lack of logos on the cars.
Also, for people that haven't played it, don't let the cheap price put you off, Project Gotham Racing 4 is still one of my overall favourite racing games, especially because I loved seeing Quebec City appear as a location in a racing game. I wish that Project Gotham Racing, once the XBox's marquee racing franchise, had gotten more games after PGR 4.
I found a used 360 Slim for $25 (console only) right around the time your first video about the coming "360 apocalypse" was uploaded and I started collecting games for it immediately. I'm glad I started then because I'm definitely starting to see how much more expensive things are becoming in the last couple of months.
Still a ton of great games that probably won't be affected by these rare game prices though. Just stick to games you actually think you'll play.
@@pistolgrabber01 yeah definitely, I have the majority of what I was looking for at this point so there's just a few games here and there I'm still interested in picking up
In Brazil, it is even worse. They did not sell many Xboxes or 360s here. The end of the 360 and the Xbox One is okay, but it was not before. Black is about 100 dollars, which is bizarre when compare to the expansive 20 dollar I found (I would pay today black and Indiana for this price today from Feb24 Orlando)
For me, the 360 is my all time fav console. It revolutionized gaming for me. I had moved to a different state and the 360 kept me in touch with my friends by gaming with them and also making new friends. I enjoy a number of different games from Retro to Current and the 360 just had it all imo. I've been collecting for the 360 since 2018 grabbing games I've played and games I never knew existed. I've amassed over 300+ games on it so far making it the most physical games I own for any single console. I appreciate the tips on certain games. I'm at the point where thankfully my collection is where I want it to be minus some very rare shooters I'd prolly end up never owning unless I cough up a ton of money.
Hi, new subscriber here. Been lurking. Just wondering if you think the demand, rarity and price for PAL Xbox 360 games will go up also? And do you think it’ll be less or just as much as North American versions?
The 360 is my favorite console. Luckily ive been collecting for it and currently have a little over 350 games for the system
Yo I got a copy of fatal inertia ntsc cib for ya
It's going to be hard to believe, but I got a excellent copy of autobahn polizei in a huge lot of 360 games I got for really cheap
Hey Pete, great video as always! Can you please 🙏 do a video about AFRO SAMURAI Xbox 360,I think it's a very underated game. New subscriber.
Armored core Verdict Day is getting hard to find. I just got a copy luckily.
I live in a remote area where i get 25mb down and 10 up so downloading a brandnew game thats 120gb on average takes me a day if not 2, but with a xbox 360 any patches that they have are under 1 gb, and are pretty much plug and play. Especially for me I missed out on a bunch of games when i was in the Teens that i wanted to play so it's a mix of fomo and a mix of just wanting to actually play and have a nice collection.
I collect Xbox 360 been for the last 10 years I’m so glad I did I got over 200 games for 2 and 3 dollars I only buy ones I want to play I don’t fall into the rare if it’s not a good game it’s pointless great vid 👍
That's good news for me, I own almost 200 physical 360 games, at least half are brand new unopened, and just a few of them are sports games.
Let this man cook 😤. Nobody wants to spend $130 for Star Wars outlaws for some extra skins
I disagree for Project Sylpheed because the print run is low in NA (100 000) and abyssmal for other regions ( only 10 000 in Europe), I don't see it coming back down after the currrent spike from 6$ CIB in April 2024 to 30$ in July and still going.
One thing I have noticed about Xbox 360 games is that MANY of the discs are extremely brittle.
I was shocked at how easily they break from just droppig them a few inches or even just pushing them into the locking mechanism in the case or even just taking them out of the case.
I broke like 30 Xbox 360 games just taking them out of the case and it's just getting worse every year. :/
The disc material is literally disintegrating.
At least in the climate here in Sweden.
You can risk waiting and hoping that prices of these retro games go down, but you risk is getting more and more expensive as time goes by.
Found Fatal Inertia in a charity shop for £2 about 5 months ago, I think at the time I checked CEX and they were selling for £8 today £10 and looking on ebay in the UK the low copies are £40.
Totally has nothing to due with youtubers saying "OMG THESE GAMES ARE GOING AWAY FOREVER YOU SHOULD BUY NOW!"
This has happened with plenty of collectables way before the internet
2:41 No, people are buying copies within Australia. For someone who makes a lot of videos about looking on ebay you should be able to tell what your search results mean.
Thanks for info! Interesting to see changes when time goes on.
Luckily I found a copy of Fatal Enertia for a pound in a charity shop years ago. It surprised me that the price had increased so much.
I love these videos. The fear and uncertainty that many casual gamers will go through as they can't find those physical niche or uncommon titles for reasonable prices is now a thing of the past.
I've been buying up 360 games ever since Sony announced they were going to close the PS3 store 3 years ago and once prices started spiking that should have been a wake up call to everyone that this was going to happen with xbox360 store also.
You snooze, you lose.
You can have all the copies of Infernal you want game is molten ass I do have N2 I got when the Disc Replay here went out of business kicking myself for not taking this more seriously God damnit.
It's funny you mention season passes, because when I first hear that I immediately think of the OG season passes, Gears of War 3 and Bioshock Infinite.
Thing with the Backwards Compatability and "Forward Compatability" is the Xbox is gonna have to stay afloat. I have my doubts. Don Mattrick really screwed the brand. And even if it is as true as I want it to be... they'll find a way to monetize it eventually.
Loving all the videos man! Keep it up!
I got a lot for my games from buying them from people who work at storage places because when they don't sell at an auction, the workers have to throw the stuff away, and I get them for dirt cheap
Why should i care about games ive never heard of and you even disclaim in the video these are games we've probably never heard of going missing or hard to find.
If for historical purposes people should post the disk dumps online so it's downloadable for others
I'm happy I got most of the 360 games I wanted especially the JRPGs. It's crazy how much those games went up.
I WISH GAME DEVELOPERS STOP MAKING VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES . VIOLENCE IS DEMONIC
I have been collecting for the last 5 years. I love the 360. I have all the games I want. Thanks to you Pete before all this stuff went crazy.
Sellers are just gonna delist them, wait, and then bring them back for exorbitant prices. It's so obvious.
That's what I've done and sales have been great.
@@warehousedave7937 Of course they will be good. It's the fear tactic that people can't find them regardless of price. But then that fomo kicks in like dopamine once they see it come back in stock. Even if the price is so much higher than it used to be.
I kinda wonder if I should get in on PS3 buying early, just in case PS ever does full backwards compatibility. But I've already done that a little and it hasn't worked out so far.
@@Amadeus_ Start accumulating niche PS4 horrors, I wouldn't bother with the well-known mainstream ones (for example, Until Dawn). Obviously, this is a long way off from now, but there are still plenty of affordable and brand-new copies.
Reason why they are becoming hard to find it’s because of the shut down, and also people creating RUclips videos about it as well.
Heyyy glad to see you Grabing up the games . Me as welll I just made a video covering 2 of the games. You picked up
I like your channel! Keep it up
I'm mostly collecting eu 360 games because I am from there. Only needed 6 us exclusives which I'm only missing one of now. Jp ones i'm almost there aswell.
I just got a nice crt tv with component and s video so i got all my old consoles set up. Been collecting for a long time but 360 was always just kinda tucked away in my entertainment center, now that I'm getting back into it I've been astonished with some of the prices. Makes sense though it usually goes this way about 20 years or so after release.
Surprised to hear about Tenchu Z my sis bought it when it came out and she let me borrow it I liked it so much I 100% the achievements then went and bought a pre owned copy at GameStop later on cheap that I've never played that has set on my shelf for god knows how many years. Super happy to hear about its price situation was such a fun game I'm proud to own.