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How Final Fantasy 16 Is Avoiding Final Fantasy 15's MISTAKES
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- FF16 may make mistakes - that's always a potential danger with pretty much every single game in existence, regardless of the franchise or the developer - but if it does, they will be new mistakes.
And if nothing else, it's incredibly reassuring to know that the major blunders the developer made with Final Fantasy 15 won't be rearing their head again.
over 11 hours of cinematics?? Dude... I'm kinda excited for that. Reminds of MGS games lol
How much I loved being a teen burrowed in my room playing MGS3 and really getting into the political discourse and plot
@@dominicdunn2579 MSG3 was my first one as a kid! Cheers!!
I love good cinematics
And you can’t skip them some people are gonna cry about this get ready
@@thegamewin100I’m not sure that’s true, I’ve seen IGN skip one in their dungeon gameplay
This game is getting all the TLC. And I love how they aren’t just throwing in an open world just cause. Every games doesn’t have to be an open world. Can’t wait to experience this story and world the team is creating!
But those smaller linear experiences better feel damn good to make up for it.
Given the demo experience it's gonna be structured like nioh and still gave an amazing experience
@@automato436 I think it will be closer to god of war 2018 and ragnarok, nioh is more gameplay than cutscenes, god of war is always a mix between gameplay, cutscenes and some open areas and by the look of it is very close (as they said god of war is one of the inspirations).
There are VERY few people left in the games industry that I trust and Naoki Yoshida is one of them. FF14 is, in my opinion, one of the best directed games playable at the moment.
I have faith that he and his team can pull FF16 together just like they rebuilt FF14.
Ever heard of Verum Rex and Kingdom Hearts 4?!
@@OrganizationXIII NEVER ever heard of ANY of them.
I'm from the future, oh man this game did not land with so many players
I loved FF15, but I was only able to appreciate the story and the narrative after I'd gone through the outsourced medium. The game as a standalone title is pretty much stripped away.
It doesn't help that the CEO at the time was sabotaging the dev team because he thought people at square were "too obsessed with final fantasy). He moved the offices of the whole building working on FF15 just because of a horoscope reading.
Ahaha sounds like he took too much acid
That's great they're being careful
I know right babe??
One thing u enjoyed in 15 was the banter with the boys. You really did feel like you're on a journey with friends. Clive on his own in worried it's s just going to feel like him by himself and occasionally companions come in. This does make it more on edge because they can easily kill any of the companions off or turn them into villains later. Just don't want that lovely dread feeling of getting to point A to point B. A lot of dirty narrative games have some kind of companion, like Spider-Man has Miles or some doctor, Kratos has his son, Zelda you have various companions in and out. If FF16 feels kinda like Zelda in terms of solo journey with the odd companion I think that's fine how it'll be done.
Most anticipated game this year! in terms of story telling and action, I dont think any game this year beats it full stop. When you have the Heavensward writer and the FF14 team CBUIII with Yoshi-P at the helm, its almost guaranteed to deliver in both high quality Story telling, action and characters and as a fan of FF14 and the dev team, im here for it!
Absolutely. And with Spiderman and Burning Shores, it's a perfect combo of first class games. And we have plenty of pallet clensers this year as well. Great year.
Starfield
@@ktdagoat1289 Maybe in exploration, but in terms of narrative and action I don't see any game this year beating Final Fantasy, possibly Spider-Man in terms of action but I truly thing narrative goes to FF this year.
Nah we just talking better gameplay overall.. TotK is in the lead cause the time the gameplay allows you to enjoy it, Starfields gonna be played YEARS beyond TotK CONSISTENTLY... It's things in Skyrim people still haven't discovered in 2023, so we can assume people will REALLY be playing it until 2034 😂...
@@ktdagoat1289 Well that’s a good point but nah in terms of combat, FFXVI winning hands down, I don’t think anyone can argue with that when you have the DMC5, and Dragons Dogma combat lead on FFXVI, I’m confident in that if anything.
I also think it will win best music for a game as well, if you know anything about Final Fantasy it’s that they got some of the best music in the game and they got my boy Soken to compose its music who worked on FF14.
4:19 - I think FFXV had more than 3 DLCs. At least I can recall the 4 "episodes" add-ons: Prompto, Gladiolus, Igniis and Ardyn. And I think the multiplayer expansion "Comrades" was also DLC. So it'd be 5 DLCs released, but definitely not 3.
I thought that too
Thought I was going mad there for a sec
Thank God. Final Fantasy 15 was really fun but it had some huge holes everywhere.
I kinda miss the old Final Fantasy games that I grew up with, they were lots of fun, tears and silly laughs. There were times i and my friends were all looking forward to what song the next Final Fantasy would deliver.
A lot of iconic and emotional moments in the old Final Fantasy games, the death of Aeris, the joy of seeing Golden Saucer for the first time, the cute monkey like Zidane and Vivi and their funny banters, the dance at the ballroom between Rinoa and Squall, the kissing scene between Yuna and Tidus. The stories were complex yet easy to follow, you didnt need 400 DLCs and 300 spin offs to be immersed in the story, the dialogues were fun and natural in FF7-10, they spoke without big words and rarely were there heavy dialogues that made you think hard. The old FF1-12 were not about trends (fast pace battle, open world, heavy and super complex multi episode stories across multiple media).
I still can literally cry whenever I play FF7 and listen to the bg music, nostalgic, haunting and memorable. I dont know why the newer Final Fantasy games feel overly complicated, heavy and lack of memorable musics and songs. They just don't resonate and speak to me.
Eyes on You, Melodies of Life and Suteki Da Ne still play vividly in my head. I think Final Fantasy franchise has slowly lost its charms, it feels very cold and forgettable. I gave up on Final Fantasy after FF13. 😢
They had me at “not open world”! ❤
I hate boring open worlds. But in saying that, i loved death stranding. There was just something i cant put my finger on that kept me content with traversal of that world.
"Open world" is a mixed bag, sometimes they are great (Horizon Zero Dawn) other times ... not so much. When you're doing a very detailed tight story I think its best to stay away from fully open worlds.
This year has already, IMO, released more bangers than the past 2-3 years COMBINED. I already have 4 games on my GOTY list. hHogwarts, RE4-MAKE, Jedi Survivor, and of course Zelda TotK. That's not counting the others that have released this year that have been absolutely AMAZING. I just think those 4 currently stand at the top. We still have Street Fighter 6, Diablo IV, FFXVI, Starfield, Spider-Man 2, Mortal Kombat 1, AC Mirage, Lords of the Fallen, Atlas Fallen, and I could go on and on ad nauseam.
What a great year to be a gamer. My wallet hurts, but it's happy as hell. 😁😁😁
This will be a standout year like 2010 and 2011 were.
please do go on (i need to make a list)
Where is kingdom hearts 4 and Verum Rex! They shit on any other game you mentioned!
@@OrganizationXIII Ridiculous
@@FredMaverik Oh, certainly. I'll rename the ones I've already listed as well. Keep in mind too, these are the games that I personally plan on playing and am interested in.
Diablo IV
Street Fighter 6
FFXVI
Mortal Kombat 1
Assassin's Creed: Mirage
Starfield
Baldur's Gate 3
Lords of the Fallen
Alan Wake 2
Armor Core VI
Alone in the Dark Remake
Atlas Fallen
Immortals of Aveum
Exoprimal
Spider-Man 2
Silent Hill 2 Remake (rumored)
That's it for now. I expect more announcements and reveals at the GamesFest, but these are all of the titles confirmed for this year that I'm currently excited for and plan on playing. Hope it helps....
✌🏾✌🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I hadn't considered it before but 2023 is turning out to be one of the best years of gaming ever. At least for me since I play on all four platforms. With all the remakes of beloved games to sequels to beloved games there are some huge hits coming on top of the ones that already released.
Oh dude, 100%. This year has already, IMO, released more bangers than the past 2-3 years COMBINED. I already have 4 games on my GOTY list. hHogwarts, RE4-MAKE, Jedi Survivor, and of course Zelda TotK. That's not counting the others that have released this year that have been absolutely AMAZING. I just think those 4 currently stand at the top. We still have Street Fighter 6, Diablo IV, FFXVI, Starfield, Spider-Man 2, Mortal Kombat 1, AC Mirage, Lords of the Fallen, Atlas Fallen, and I could go on and on ad nauseam.
What a great year to be a gamer. My wallet hurts, but it's happy as hell. 😁😁😁
I really must be different. I loved final fantasy 15. But I’ve loved every final fantasy. I’m stoked for 16!
it was good; but i hated the fact i couldn't summon the aeons at will. i also hated how it was too damn slow outside of battles.
@@ChickenMcThiccken I understand that. The way they did the summons was kind of cool though. Having to fight and be in an intense moment. Being close to death by the time your summon gauge was full and call it in right before it’s too late.
@@josephjohnson704 and that was the only thing that saved you LOL. i think it took me like over 30 hours before it finally summoned. i was in this one battle and getting really pissed because i was bout to die; then the "hit R1 + L1" came on screen and i was like ; wtf is this? and bahamut just vaporized everything
I've never played final fantasy before so looks like it's a good time to jump in
My favorite thing as a new FF fan is each mainline game is contained in its own world and story. So you can pick up any one and jump in, obviously besides sequels/prequels to the main games.
This definitely feels like the best point for someone new to FF to jump in
Play Verum Rex it’s better trust me
@@OrganizationXIII verum rex hasn't even been announced, for all we know it could be part of kh4 or not even happen at all
FFXV also had action focused combat (wait mode was added post-launch and disabled by default) and a single playable character (again, controlling the other characters was added post-launch after the initial 3 DLC episodes).
That wasn't really the issue with XV though.
@@varenoftatooine2393 Not exactly relevant to my point. They keep saying this is the first action FF in the mainline series. I was stating why this is not correct.
You are absolutely correct in that XVI is not the first action rpg in the series. Its a lie perpetuated by Yoshi-P and fans are doing everything they can to validate his statement.
@SgCy I understand remaster you mean now, sorry, I hands seem a lot of people trying to say that XV's issue was its combat when it was actually the storytelling
@@Jenema2 it is the first true action combat which is true
Honestly, Open World RPG is OVERRATED. I want a well presented & developed story, stylish characters, fun game-play that ALL I FREAKING CARE!
Dang I actually liked 15 . 7 and 15 we’re my favorites
I think not being open world is an absolute winner. Its so overdone and boring at this point.
Not bought a game on release for over 3 years (maybe even +5) but there's a good chance I'm picking this up.
Not played any ff except 15 but I actually liked it quite a lot so this just sounds like that plus everything more I would want.
Saying that, will still be giving it a week until I see reviews before a purchase but overall, very exciting
Maybe not, didn't realize it was PS5 exclusive
Verum Rex is better! Kingdom hearts 4 is better!
@@ItsMyLife154 its 6 months exclusive. PC/Xbox virgins will probably get it early next year.
The only thing I’m worried about are the side content/side quests I understand that there is a big focus on the story but I hope the side content is given the proper care.
If they make the main story even more rewarding in place of side quests, then i dont think there’s anything to worry about.
They said side quests actually focus on fleshing out the characters and world
@@DoomiePookie I don’t know if you play the game yet, but the side quest are fantastic and even though it’s technically not an open world in a lot of ways, it actually is because you can go back to any part of the game.
So it’s not like Final Fantasy seven remake for once you leave an area you can never go back there. Like basically, once you unlock a spot in the game or a town to explore you can always go back to that zone unless it’s a specific story be that keeps you from going there temporarily.
But for instance, you can go back till like one of the first place in the game when you’re like level 40 way deep into the storyline and go explore some of the first caverns in towns that you are locked.
I would say it’s sort of halfway between a open world. It’s basically done kind of like the old Zelda games did where it’s broken up in zones and you pull up a map to go to the immediate area that you want to fast travel to and then within those zones you can also fast travel in those areas. So I would say it’s honestly pretty close to being open world like 80% just imagine if like there’s certain gates in between areas.
I want a ps5 just to play this game I love the ff series
Same man.
I was lucky enough to find one when I was able to afford it. I got it specifically for this and the next 7 remake.
it's 6 months exclusive probably coming to xbox series X and PC later. Not coming to Nintendo obviously hahaha
@@loveaintfree1409 its coming to pc but they confirmed not for a while. not xbox tho
15 felt very empty. Very lonely. I did enjoy the game and completed most of it if not all. But quickly ran out of things to do
16 feels more empty
Frankly it’s an annoying expectation of buyers to expect an open world game for every single game. There are plenty of great games that aren’t open world and there are plenty of games that are open world that feel very empty and disappointing. It’s an unreasonable expectation! Make your own open world game then you’ll understand why.
Everyone shits on FF15, but putting aside the broken story, I thinks it's a hugely entertaining game, with a great cast of characters and a great world to explore! I was never bored by it, and really enjoyed beating it. And this comes from a guy who has been playing every FF game since FF7 in 97
My only fear is that the game is a linear Action game without turning back to old statges. I just read that theres no airship....i hope there is a way till endgame to return to old places
I doubt they would go so far as to really block you from completing things at your own pace. Especially since that systems like fast travel are actually fast I imagined me that will probably not be an issue.
They already mention you can go back to areas.
Also there probably will be an airship whether that is like how FFX used it or whatever the hell XIII did is another thing
its simple , dont outsource the story and lore to other medium
This looks like an action game. Is it even an RPG? There looks to be ONE playable character. Is there even build variety? NO OPEN WORLD. No real magic use, just like 15, spell casting is an afterthought. Am I wrong? I want to be excited, but at least 15, for all its shortcomings had an open world...
The build variety is supposed to come from the summons that you can equip...but im with ya, i dont consider this game an rpg.
It is an RPG. You'll have different weapons, armor, attacks, magic, skills, and summons that you can equip. It's not one complete open world (neither was 15) but each area will be open in a similar way as GoW:R. I'm over the moon excited.
This has also been a growing concern for me. Everyone is gushing over the combat which looks great, but the info on rpg elements has either been sparse or outright disappointing. I hope the demo will help clear things up, for better or worse.
If you check the HUD, there's Fire in the ability wheel, which changes to Stone, Aero or Blizzard, etc depending of which summon you have equipped.
Have you even watched the videos?
Spells has utility baked in as an example Fire is a ranged fire spell then when held it converts to Fira and can launch a target into the air
It has plenty of RPG
Builds? Again have you watched any of the videos?
This game looks stunning.
With Yoshi-P on board, we're Golden
Just like how this game went gold months ago lol. The series is about to be restored to its former glory
@@progenlock7785 Amen to that
Which ff game got you into the series - mine was FF8 (purchased when 1st came out)
@@dametreuspppp8734 7 for me. Bought it alongside my PS1.
@Pixel Jaunt VR I soooo wanted to get into that as a kid use to see my cousin play it. I think at the time it was the tiny characters I couldn't get over (ff8 had adult like characters that was more appealing) now I don't mind either style
The producers already said DLCs will happen if the game is successful.
I think I’ll enjoy the hell out of 16 but I must say, I loved both 15 and 13 myself so I guess according to most people, I’m a little odd
Though too bad I don’t have a PS5
Final fantasy 13 was what got me hooked on final fantasy. It was literally a cover buy and I still love that game although I seem to be in the minority.
I am absolutely tired of open worlds. The world maps in older Final Fantasy titles were fine but I want to enjoy a journey with purpose.
FF16 is way better than 15 the story is lit 🔥
wait for the shite predictable ending. completely ruined it for me. at least 15 had a massive twist, moving on 10 years.
16 was by far the worst FF I have played to date, the story was boring, the side quests were predictably dull. the ending was absolutely appalling, no thought at all, so predicable and I genuinely didn't care for any of the characters other than Jill. combat was okay, but ridiculously easy, full playthrough of all content including hunts and side quests in 32 hours, and didn't die once. that's not me gloating, its just so easy to overkill everything with the summon abilities, and the story was so dull, I have zero interest replaying the game on the harder difficulty. waited years, and I am so disappointed. I actually enjoyed 15 far far more. Hopefully 7 part 2 makes up for this absolute shit show of a game.
The naysayers who complains about not being turnbase or not being able to swap characters has no idea what type of story and tone they made for FF16. This is the first rated R mature cinematic Final Fantasy designed to keep you immerse all throughout the runtime. Having turnbase would break the tone and immersion. Imagine Silent Hill was remade to turnbase, the tone of the game will be destroyed. And for the swapping characters, this is an intimate story about Clive, not anyone else. You cannot write a well written intimate story when you are an omnipotent reader with knowledge beyond the main character. One of the close example is the Dragonborn for Skyrim or Geralt from The Witcher.
I love your take on the main character by comparing how much better characters with an actual personality like Geralt are over self insert blank slates like the dragonborn
but the party doesn't hurt this at all the entire Final Fantasy franchise is proof of this
I'm more worried about the game seemingly gutting rpg elements. The vast majority of info we've gotten has been combat and action this action that and what info we do get is more than a bit dissapointing, and yes lack of party control is a step back considering ff7r did it so well. The game will be good, but I'm having doubts it will "bring back" FF, I think that part is being hyped up too much. I'm just glad there's a demo coming.
@@davidbernardino8109 I also feel like a party and RPG elements should have been implemented
but also i think that all those who "need FF to be brought back" after XIV and VII Remake are living with their heads in the clouds and having unrealistic expectations because those games have been as good as it gets nowadays they had issues but woch game doesn't? many FF fans are looking for a perfection tailored to them wich is just not possible
REMAKE IS BETTER THAN DISC 1 10 TIMES BETTER and im not gonna be blinded by nostalgia to claim otherwise when the 3 parts of Remake come out it will be better than the OG with mistakes like the ghosts or not because a lot of the game got improved too people just don't feel like looking that way ...
This might be splitting hairs here for the purposes of the video, but I would personally make the argument that FFXV's problem isn't that its story is incoherent. Actually, I think the base story in the main game makes sense for the most part. The problem is in the game's failure at providing emotional setup and payoff.
You don't REALLY need the DLCs, the anime, or the movie to understand the story. The attack on Insomnia is explained, even if you don't necessarily have the details about how it happened. And while the DLCs are helpful for understanding character development and motivations, they aren't needed to understand the basic overarching plot.
IMO the reason FFXV's story fails is that while it tells you what you need to know to follow the story, it doesn't bother putting in the effort to make you care. It tells you Noctis lost his father and his home, but it doesn't show you his connection to Insomnia or his bond with his Dad. The story tells you (albeit vaguely) what happened to Ardyn, but it does so in a poorly edited exposition dump that can be easily glossed over. The story tells you Noctis cares about Lunafreya, but shows you nothing about their relationship or why they're so important to each other. And the story tells you Niflheim is bad, but the people in power get like one scene in the game, and you not only never get to see the Empire get destroyed, but you don't get to see the place in its prime, either... so again, why should you care?
FFXV tells you a lot of things, but all the action happens outside Noctis's perspective. And where's the fun in that?
Yep, best gaming year of the decade so far!
Aged like fine wine. FF16 team already disbanded
that is not the only problem with FFXV, the exploration, combat, graphics, everything was bad
I like how Yoshi P took the ff16 project, locked it home, and told executives to never get any closer lol. Cant wait for the game!
I like the story of FFXV and I think even before the patch, it was good. The combat though, was pretty hit and miss for me. Playing it first time was fun, but doing new game +, it's actually really boring.
You literally cannot die in that game unless you did not bring enough healing items
15 still was great
I disagree. It wasn’t great or awful, just really average.
15 is the first FF game that took me years to complete. The combat was just sloppy and the story was incredibly boring.
@@NineTails87 Still remember Versus XIII and that looked so fucking good
I heard 15 was suppose to be 13ver but something stopped them from publishing,so they had to remake whole thing into 15…..
I guess 13ver has some sensitive things in the story 😢
No. Was horrible. Nobody is pre ordering xvi because of xv
I'm really looking forward to this but my one concern is they go so hard in one direction (story) that they end up lacking in another (endgame). They've already stated there's no optional or hidden dungeons which is kind of a let down but could also mean many things. I just hope the endgame content like super bosses isn't lost upon going all in on the story and critical path content
There will be plenty of endgame content- end game bosses, hunts, leaderboard in arcade mode, ultimata mode in arete stone, and new game plus with optional harder difficulty
@F2P harder modes and ng+ are not what people mean when they say "endgame content" and certainly not what I'm referring to here. I do think there will be super bosses and maybe a few hunts, and that's great but like, the lack of optional dungeons and how much they've stated that the main focus is the critical path story leaves much to be desired when we talk about endgame. For all the problems 15 had, the endgame dungeons were the best part about that game imo. The fact it's been confirmed nothing like those will exist kinda sucks. I'm hoping there's some sort of translation error there tbh lol.
@@voxploxxinterm of action type game like this endgame is NG+ challenge boss second time or mode
if you want classic jrpg endgame this game might not have it but interm of action this is a lot of replay ability
@JuanJorn.Channel that's kind of my point though and what my concern is. Traditionally, in any game, endgame means new and optional content, typically in the form of new areas and bosses, that cannot be completed until your character reaches a certain threshold. NG+, the leader boards (which can only be done on harder difficulties), and timed modes are literally just replaying the story content with an OP character. The fact thats the selling point only lends credence to the fact there's a lack of optional content. I'm sure the game as a whole will be fantastic and I'm sure I'll love it. It's just the lack of that optional endgame content is a letdown. But hey, I appreciate them being open about it before launch at least.
@@voxploxx for maybe plus side for optional thing , hunt board can be that hard boss you can challenge
also interview they said they not add optional dungeon bc they focus on main content that people must encounter
so it possible that extra piece you like is upfront like i said in hunt board or side quest but not in form of dungeon
i still dont think it problem for optional hard boss is in NG+ i mean you suppose to stack up what you have from first play but not mean you OP in NG+ that where the fun begin it same with FF7R too only extra few boss is in simulation but more fun on NG+
Sadly ff16 had made plenty of mistakes and failed at some things ff15 got right.
At this point I gotta say Ff15 is a better game.
agreed. 16 is dull af
One thing I will say final fantasy 16 didn’t take were the smooth character movement and animations. It’s like they used the character animations from 14 online. Also the graphics are definitely not better than 15, along with the empty zones where even riding a chocobo isn’t fun to do. Compare the animations and graphics of 15 to 16 and it’s almost like they went backwards. Story is great but that’s about it. Everything else feels like they put a shitty graphics mod onto ps2 title
I honestly just want a final fantasy game with classic turn based system with now technology and graphics so we can control more than 1 person and just have the nostalgic feeling of old JUST ONE MORE TIME!!!! 😢. This game looks amazing im just saying i would love to have the Turn based system one more time with the joy of recruiting your team members! ❤
I was saying that to my cousin. I'd love to have another ff10 style turn based game....10 was by far the best of all in terms of battles. 10s battles with materia would be so dope I think.
@NotSoJolleyPotatoe agreed!!!! Man a classic turn based game that would be so dope! All I've been waiting for. Don't think we ever gonna get it looking at ff7 remake....if we get a ff8 or ff9 remake expect it's gonna be a dumb ass fast pace remake and I'm not looking forward to it!
I disagree. Turn based needs to die in mainline FF games. I appreciate and love the old titles, but FFVII remake showed me it could be done right. I like being able to dodge, cast spells, attack in real time, and make on the fly decisions. People that argue 'BuT sTrAtEgY' in older turned based FF games are delusional. For FF Tactics I would agree, but 1-10?? Come on lol. I could beat all of them just smashing the basic attack command except for a few enemies that required the occasional magic 😂
@mrchefcheck now I'm not saying every new FF needs to be turned based I'm just saying it would be amazing with today's technology to have one new entry give us the old school feel of turned based. Or with action based let us at least be able to control more players not just the main character. That's the biggest let down of FF16 in my opinion.
But then it turned around and made every mistake that 13 did
FF 15 had a story?
Typo in he quote at 3:10. It says 16 but means 15 at the top.
I think its reassuring how focused the game is. 16 is the first game since 12 that hasnt tried to be some mass media collab or something.
I dont hate 13 or 15 but they definitely lingered too long and we're still seeing the effects of that
Especially 13, with its sequels.
Has FF always been a franchise that shifts some core mechanics around sure but to say FF has been a franchise to time and time again radically change is just not true. Not sure what to think about FF 16 im sure it’ll be good but I think when we say it’s losing it’s essence what we mean is it’s starting to be less FF and more
[insert whatever the current trend is in gaming]. At this rate we will only really know it’s an FF game because there’s some Chocobos in it and a guy named Cid.
I wonder if there is a way to remove the damage point all over I hate looking those numbers
If we're being real 12, 13, 14 1.0 and 15 all had issues in some way and should be part of this conversation.
12? Naaaaaahhhh.
@Pixel Jaunt VR 12 is where the development cycle issues started but great game for the most part.
@@pixeljauntvr7774 That game also had issues and it shows how stilted the dialogue is. You should read about the developmental troubles the game faced. It’s director actually left the game.
Unpopular opinion I like ff15
Well, ff went downhill with 13, 15 had Potential but the story sucked.
This looks more like a step back to 10 and 12 which i loved.
XII was a masterpiece I will never forget!
I genuninely cannot stand how many final fantasy fans claim its older games are "open world". ALL FF games are linear, and how intense that it varies SLIGHTLY. Just because you have a world map does not mean you have an open world. From FF1 all the way to day elements of the game locked behind plot progression. Whether its vehicles, or even being able to explore a town or past a certain point, you are always locked behind the plot more or less. At least until the last half / 3/4 of the game of the game.
Some best examples are FFI, FFIV, FFV, FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX and so forth. The only 2 FF games that slightly allowed "open world" concepts from the get go were final fantasy 2 and 3. And even then, not in its true scope.
And honestly, FFX is pretty linear but has one of the best stories in all FF. If you consumed the anime, book, and movie ( and yes those shouldn't be prerequisites to enjoy something) but if you did then Royal Edition is honestly pretty dang good from a plot perspective.
SE hasn't produced a decent entry into the franchise since FF 12 (FF14 RR doesn't count ). Fingers crossed this will change now..
How dos 14 not count when it's the team behind 14 that is making 16?
It s an MMORPG.
@@user-cr3pw3bg1b
So?
@@sam.246 It s not the same format. Bottom line is, between 13 and 15 (14 not counting) they've been dropping the ball for too long now. I really really want 16 to work.
@@user-cr3pw3bg1b 13 was made by the team doing 7 remake, and 15 by the Luminous team. That fact that 14 is an mmo is irrelevant to the fact that the MSQ (main story) is a single player FF game in itself.
Plenty of mistakes in this bang average game
I hope the regions are large and fun to explore. I don't like to rush games, I like to spend time grinding and crafting. Wasn't a big fan of the FPS portion of the demo, hope there isn't a lot of that. Not happy with the low level cap either.
I really liked ff15 tho
So did I even with the flaws
Im looking forward to this game. Am i also the only one who enjoyed ffxv?
No, I enjoyed that game so much!
despite the terrible story 15 was the only FF game that I enjoyed enough to finish
that's not to say the other games are bad though, all of them are good games
Wish it was out 5 days early if you pre-ordered lol. After the demo I just bought it immediately now I have to twiddle my thumbs till I can enjoy. I really hope there's areas to explore and it's not click map point and goto small area missions over.
This why I didn't download the demo, the feeling of waiting till next week... I took Thursday and Friday off... 4 day weekend. Yessss
Just make a complete story and game and you will be rewarded. Final Fantasy 13 and 15 were both incomplete games and stories.
I feel sad to keep hearing loft praise about a (full) game and (complete) experience when that's what we expect from games that are supposed to be finished!!!
Ff16 is a good game but the whole dmc thing ruined it for me personally as well as lack of rpg elements no party system i honestly dont see the push for action action square seems to push if there after more players dmc has never sold more than final fantasy so why make it more like dmc
they did do episode ardyn after the fact. that was my favorite of the dlcs
I’ll be honest I have no interest in playing a turn base game ever again if I wanna do that I’ll go play a Pokémon game final fantasy started off as turn base because of the limitations of the time. And it hasn’t been turn-based for nearly a decade.
And look how bad the franchise is now doing
@@villaniousmustache4898 actually, it’s doing bad because of how bad it was marketed and how bad the past few games club points have been everyone is loving 16 and the majority of fans are not asking to go back to crappy term base combat is that’s a thing from the past.
It’s definitely not what has Henard sells of Final Fantasy.
What screwed the franchise up is the last game add one of the most complicated and confusing plot points that expected you to watch multiple movies, read comic books, and a whole bunch of DLC to understand the story. They were expecting way too much from an average fan.
And before the last game the game before that was an MMO, which turns a lot of people off you prefer to play single player games in the game before that was 13 which most final fantasy fantasy hated.
So you’re talking about a full decade of games that were not receive that well because of their stories.
Yoshi P is a heavens-sent. King Midas of the 21th century 🫶
15 was a absolute mess from building the new engine, compressing three games into one, swapping directors, having like 2.5 years of actual development time, bullshit marketing designed to sucker us in, and it was definitely not a complete game on launch and at end of life.
16 appears looks like it won't be a 15, and we had kingdom hearts 3 and ffvii remake in between to show us 15 was a one-off fuck up
No more, Stand by me, songs.
thank you god
Indeed, also no more boy bands crews and people who we can't relate much to.
Hey that song is great ...
I'm glad this is not open world, so sick of open world games for the most part
They may be avoiding 15's mistakes, but they are making some of their own so.... it really is subjective.
You wanna explain or act like a smart ass ?
Spoiler it's got the same ending.
GOTY for sure cant waittt
just do 2 things and I'm cool...1) do NOT make the main villain fucking assist you multiple time throughout the game for no reason 2) do NOT have a retarded mission where you nearly die and sacrifice your team breaking into a heavily fortified base to steal back you damn car
Ardyn wasn't actually the main villain though. Problem is they never actually explained that properly in the main game. Everyone's fate was being manipulated by Ifrit.
1thing i dope about ff16 was no group party the game play is ok but if they have party group like ffx would be awesome
I’ve been a fan of Final Fantasy since 1997 and I’ve played every entry. I know that I’m in the minority now but I desperately want at least one more Final Fantasy game with the old traditional turn based combat system with these gorgeous graphics. FFX was the last one, way back in 2002!! I’d even compromise and settle for a battle system like the FF7 Remake. I enjoy the strategy and the feeling of controlling the entire party. I even got my wife into Final Fantasy and she’s played all of the old ones. Also Dragon Quest and Persona. But she can’t handle fast paced action games so it sucks that she can’t play this. Action combat is too chaotic and messy, the camera moving around everywhere and the screen filled with flashes of magic and numbers. I really hope they can give the older fans one more classic, even scaled back to the ps1 graphics of FF9! But I doubt they’ll ever do it.
I also miss the turn based combat system, now I have to find other games that scratch that itch. This game looks good but it also kinda of looks more like other games already out there
It'd be so cool!
4 was released and 2 were cancelled.
The problem is that even semi-open zones in XVI looked a bit empty.
You're not meant to wander around them aimlessly the story is fairly linear with minimal side content.
3:04 Ttpo. Should be FF15 not 16. Need QA guys
Are there any cosmetic options in the game, I only see Clive wearing that dark armor
This game is way too linear. I feel like I'm being rushed as there is not enough side content to distract me and exploration is not very rewarding.
I managed to finish it in 32 hours with side content and watching all the cutscenes, they stated 35 hours for the main story alone, so that was total bs. by far the easiest FF, and by far the worst story too date imo. then ending was utterly shite and so predictable. was really hoping for a bit twist at the end, and nothing...
I'm curious did Square release a special edition of FF15 with the Kingsclave movie and maybe the Brotherhood series included? 🤷🏽♂️Seems like that would've been a no brainer
Look, I'm excited for ffxvi, gonna play it day one, but I legit have no idea why they keep using ffxv -- the lowest bar -- as an example of what NOT to do when making an FF game. It's just one of those "yeah, no dip sherlock" moments when this team brags about how much better ffxvi will be compared to ffxv. Again, not a high bar to compete with.
No more mistakes? What about all the mistakes? Game is ass.
Can the damage numbers be removed. Looks very annoying
I mean seriously, in FFXV there is a new ending in the novel! How dedicated can you be to look for different medias just to get the whole FFXV story!
Keep in mind FF XV didn't have a steady team, direction, or fanbase. FF XV could've been something special if they showed more love but of course people are so damn impatient and want to jump the ban wagon. It was just practically living on hope. Personally if It was tetsuya vision it would've been a lot different than this but it is what it is. FF XVI will be amazing just because it's Yoshi P and he did and a wonderful team saved one of the most amazing MMOs this world has to experience thus far! I don’t buy day one games anymore but i can happily say I am buying the deluxe ver no hesitation and yeah it could be a shitty game but I highly doubt it just because a dev who is confident with trailers, gameplay, and advertisement! Shows they're highly invested into this product and I am as well. I can see the memes now
Come to me Ifrit
you know what ive learned over time? even the best dev ; fucks up from time to time. lets give it honest reviews first.
i wasn’t aware that FFXV was so problematic lol. i love the game, have played through it a ton, and still find it incredible. i had no idea that the production team was struggling so bad
The story was obviously very problematic as said in the video but i also found the combat to be so incredibly stale and boring, especially compared to other final fantasys. I’m just glad that some of these newer releases have shown us that final fantasy can still have engaging combat without a turnbased system
Can we clear the hud up
FF15 was released unfinished then they “finished” the rest of the game 2-3years later
actually its still not finished.They cancelled one DLC and released another one as book instead.
FFXV was a mess at first. But you had to watch kingsglaive and wait until royal pack released
ok no open world but give us some online hunts!
Some traiilers for this alone are better than FF15 as a whole game :')
Thankful no day one patch such a hassle to take ps5 to friends to download it as can't afford internet in area I live in took half year to save for ps5 couple years ago thankful working more now but beside the point
Love how everyone, including FFXVI devlopers are roasting FFXV 💀
only three weeks away
Biggest mistake was leaving it to square enix to slice the pie and scalp it as dlc. Reason we never got lunafreya
7:06 Please watch Final Fantasy The Spirits Within. Then tell me the essence of Final Fantasy is a nebulous concept. As it not feeling or looking like a FF was a primary issue. Am i going to play 16, of course its Final Fantasy. I have no doubt that'll it'll be a good game. But there is a long list of characteristics, themes & elements used to describe or define FF. Acting like their aren't is just disingenuous.