Superb work from VW to make an amazing EV for a really good price !! About your vid Kris, every day you get better and better !! You are doing an awesome work !! Keep it up mate, you are the best !!!!
The AWD is needed to trully create a serious competition in a Nordic country to Tesla since most sold Tesla is AWD. But the true competition will be with Model Y since Model 3 is a sedan.
They cost more or less the same over here, from my perspective the ID4 gives more value for the money. The only major advantage of the Tesla Model 3 is the acceleration and infotainment system. Model Y costs NOK 100K more than the ID4, so not comparable for the time being.
@@andrvas1 Acceleration is not that important in a family car tbh, as long as it's good enough. The ID.4 and Enyaq has decent acceleration...not really good, but not really bad. So imo that's not a major advantage, because you rarely need it. It's more fun to have.
I did a 410km run with my new ID4 First base edition on Saturday between 4 and 9°C and dry weather on a mixture of back roads and motorway average consumption was 19.5kWh/100kms. Very happy with that and the car overall. Expect consumption should drop a little more when the summer comes.
Excellent Vidéo. I am glad I did order the ID4 after having looked at Tesla and Mach E. Can’t wait to get my car next month hopefully 🙏. Thanks for all your comments and information. Looking forward to your infotainment video. I have seen some already and depending on who is testing you get different opinions. There is for sure room for improvement but that is true for all EV manufacturer.
Nice video, as always! Didn’t expect a new record with crosswinds like this, which is practically head wind both ways. 👍 I think you should have split the charging in two, though. Adding 40% at Ionity Lillesand and 40% at Circle K Telemarksporten, would have cut the charging time by approx 10 minutes. Even with 4 minutes of extra overhead, you would be at 6:50.. (ABC, always be criticizing.. 😉)
Me neither, so I was genuinely surprised! Yeah, you're right that there could have been some time to save in charging twice. But I'm pretty sure that the overhead would be more than 4 minutes. But still, some time could have been saved :)
So glad I ordered the ID.4 over the e-Niro... Specifically for this kind of trip it saves a substantial amount of time due to faster charging. And I drive a lot of these trips (400-500 km). I do wonder if another charging strategy could have saved some additional minutes. Charge to 60% and then add another 25% somewhere else at a lower SOC.
I think you made the correct choice as well :) Yeah, you could probably save a few minutes with an additional charging stop, but then the question is. How much of a detour is the second charging stop? Will there be vacant chargers? Will you have som issues with charging? How much time do you actually save? There are many "what ifs" :)
It is amazing how much infrastructure has been built in Norway considering the country has a large territory and small population and the winter weather is not helping in construction over there.
Yes, it's heart-warming to see how environmentally friendly a country can be as long as it earns enormous amounts of MONEY FROM EXPORTING FOSSIL FUELS to other countries.
( 14:15 ). It is very strange that some ID's have that kind of lag and others don't. I have never seen such a big lag with mine (ok, about minute after starting it can be slow, but not in normal use). If you watch Bjørn's recent video about infotainment, that is how mine works. Pretty snappy if you don't compare Tesla's software. Also there hasn't been a single issue with Apple Carplay. But cleary there are ID.x cars, that have huge lags and issues still after 2.1 update.
Agreed. Not sure what CPU they put in these things maybe just underpowered? But likely to do with software bootup, if so hopefully they will sort it soon.
What’s the model number on your Ray-Ban Justin sunglasses? 😎 Lost mine and can’t find the right ones online.. the glass/tint on these are superb for driving. Works with head up display too.
There is nothing wrong with the sharpness of the video, you may be referring to the times my camera is struggling to focus on screens. I previously used Canon which has a different autofocus technology than the Sony I now use, and it seems Canon manages to focus better on screens in general. But since I bought the Sony camera back in januar after my Canon broke, I won't be switching any time soon.
If you live in Canada, this is the best car for the money. Period. You'll get full goverment grants ($13000 in my province) making this car just a few dollars more than a comparably sized petrol vehicule. In the price range, we have 62kWh Leaf, Hyundai/Kia 64kWh trio, Chevrolet Bolt 66kWh... Until e-GMP comes with a more sensibly priced car, this will be the king of budget EVs in Canada as we don't get ID.3 (thanks to the US of A). Mach-e and M3 SR+ won't qualify for federal grant as the base price is too expensive. Hope VW sorts out the infotainment.
How does this work you drive the same route and the ID.4 drives it on 6h 56m with 42 min charge time but it still beat the Tesla that only charged for 30 min?
This is how you rig a test hahaha it's obvious... I don't know why Soo much bias against Tesla.... More traffic on the highway is a lame excuse hahahah if one cannot overtake In a tesla, I don't know which electric car does it better hahahah..... It's Kris s channel so he has every right to showcase as he wants the results to be...... For more authentic stuff you should follow Bjorn s videos....
@@MrMad0max Bjørn’s 1000km test is way from accurate. Some are done in the cold and maybe in rain and with a lot of wind and sometimes unlucky with chargers when charging and so on. And he is definitely a Tesla fanboy you can’t trust these for accuracy at all. My wife gets way uses way less kw on the same trip then I do so how you drive is also a important factor. Going from a to b should take about the same time whatever car you drive if you follow the speed limit, kw use and charging time is the only thing that should differentiate the cars.
@@royhoynes2787 guys! Keep in mind you don’t buy a car just from excel and data. You should buy your cars by trust of engineering and other factors like space, practicability e.g. A Tesla has more acceleration but it only can accelerate. On a German autobahn it’s getting way too uncomfortable at 160kmh. The suspension is not good enough. Volkswagen always does a great job with the overall suspension and stiffness so you have a much more solid fast driving experience. And this is only one example. The sedan opening is terrible for transporting furniture. In an ID.4 you could easily put a whole ikea session 🤣. Another example is when you buy a new car at Tesla you need to take a list of errors with you and look at your brand new car finding a lot of these. And I don’t meant the small kind of things. A loose steering wheel, not right adjusted headlight which turns into wind noise… . I love driving Tesla much but as much as I do for 60k€ I would prefer Polestar, Volvo, VW, BMW or other prime brands. At last you have to consider how often in a year you drive more than 500km where the charging thing is necessary to have. Guess what VW is topping the charging speed to 180kW I bet until September 😉😊
I hope the Audi e-tron Q4 will have its own infotainment system. If so I am sure it will be a really great car. The weak point of the Id4 is obviously the software.
Most likely, VAG will try to consolidate software (components) across cars on the MEB platform. They will still look and feel Audi/VW/++, but writing core BMS, motor control, sensor monitoring, cabin & battery cooling/heating, even maps and entertainment specifically each time is just Plain Stupid! You might be thrilled by the individuality of your car, but the cost is that once your car, and it's software is in production and signed, the original teams move on to new things and your car is left behind with miniscule updates, as they cost a whole lot, and the number of cars/owners birching over stuff not getting stuff fixed is to low compared to a project cost of minimal gains. Am I snuffed as an Audi55 owner? Well, I hope it doesn't show, but I at least hope ID4/MEB is done correctly, and that the number of cars/owners forces VAG to realise software counts, and not AGAIN have to realise that what Lord Musk was correct, 10 years later
re infotainment. In the end you do core setup once or twice then just deal with sat nav, climate, media, charging and maybe mode. If they are easy to use then no problem. And they are easy to use on an ID3 and 4. Far too much fuss over things normal drivers hardly touch.
I agree, but VW should have at least got the basically design layout right. I mean there’s lots of cars out there where they could have pretty much just copied.
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Hi man, how can you get that result? 😳 You drive the same distance, at the same speed, and get better results with the iD4 than the TM3, though the charging time in iD4 was 40 min., and 30 min. in TM3. In my mind, that will be 10 min. better total time in TM3.😳
It is because of traffic, and being behind a car on the two lane sections that drives just a few km below the speed limit over such a large distance is enough. This is not a scientific test or done in a lab, so there will be variables in the real world that will affect the time. Which is also one of the points of the test. Traffic can have a bigger influence than range and charge speed. In reality this test is more of an approximation than a 100% accurate representation 😊
@@KrisRifa In that case, it does not come out well enough in the tests. 😞 When you clearly state in the test which car comes out the fastest, and show a ranking table, it can seem confusing to your followers. It took a while before I even perceived the "error" via the ranking table.
@@KrisRifa There is also a reason why I like the collaboration you have with Bjørn Nyland, when you test two different cars against each other at the same speed and the same distance.😉 Then you get a more realistic picture of the cars.👍🏻 But understands it is not easy to achieve all the time, and especially not in these corona times. But by all means, get on with the fine work you do! Likes to follow you.😉👍🏻
Since the hood is comparatively shorter on an ID4, a frunk would mostly be used for storing charging cable, if they made the compartment for it. The downside of a fruite is high possibility of additional wear on hood paint and possibility of users unnecessarily fscking around with with the electrical stuff there. For the mackies' part: using the wet bar and spilling crap beer where there should be none. From a manufacturers point of view; it is cheaper NOT to build crap a user doesn't know he doesn't need.
IMO a frunk is wasted space, Tesla could have made the hood shorter and give the space to the interior and trunk. A frunk is a "solution" for EV platforms originally designed for ICE but if the car is designed for the start to be electric only there isn't any need for it other than trying to imitate the looks of an ICE car.
Slow motion....driving in a eSUV and in the infotainingsystem. That record will be beaten by the e -gmp Roadrunners from Korea. This Test is almost a chargingtime contest. I rather would like to see, which car does the run with the most efficency. 5 kWh between an M3 to id.4/enyaq/etron on every 100 km is something not to be proud. Not bad for a SuV, but not good enough for the future of mankind.
Keep in mind the ID4/Enyaq are much larger vehicles than the Model 3. They are going to be less efficient by default given their aero and weight disadvantages.
@@yowvil Nobody forced VW to build huge cars. They took the Bestseller „tiguan“ as the refrence. I wish they choosed the ioniq 28 oder the audi a4 avant. If you put an egolf next to an id.4....your golf feels like an up!
So what you are saying is that a car which has almost the same battery capacity as the tesla model 3 LR AWD and has an average consumption of more than 6kwh / 100kms (23 of ID4 minus 17 of Tesla) does better in your special (rigged) test.... hahahaha Kris we all know you hate tesla, if you want to do better, i suggest get rid of the bias in your videos..... wish you all the best....
So what you are saying is a lighter, more aerodynamic vehicle will be more efficient than a heavy SUV. MrMad0max we all know you love tesla, if you want to do better, i suggest get rid of the bias in your replies.
@@AlanTov hahahaha before insulting someone I suggest you take a maths or a science lesson, if you had paid attention while your teacher was explaining, it would have helped save the embarrassment of your comments hahahaha
Superb work from VW to make an amazing EV for a really good price !! About your vid Kris, every day you get better and better !! You are doing an awesome work !! Keep it up mate, you are the best !!!!
Thanks :)
It's great to see VW giving Tesla some solid competition in this market segment, I'm thrilled by the results! And I'm a Model 3 '21 LR owner :-)
The AWD is needed to trully create a serious competition in a Nordic country to Tesla since most sold Tesla is AWD. But the true competition will be with Model Y since Model 3 is a sedan.
They cost more or less the same over here, from my perspective the ID4 gives more value for the money. The only major advantage of the Tesla Model 3 is the acceleration and infotainment system. Model Y costs NOK 100K more than the ID4, so not comparable for the time being.
@@andrvas1 Acceleration is not that important in a family car tbh, as long as it's good enough. The ID.4 and Enyaq has decent acceleration...not really good, but not really bad. So imo that's not a major advantage, because you rarely need it. It's more fun to have.
that's the correct attitude; it's not so much Tesla vs other EV's. it's more about getting more EV'S/less ICE cars on the road.
I did a 410km run with my new ID4 First base edition on Saturday between 4 and 9°C and dry weather on a mixture of back roads and motorway average consumption was 19.5kWh/100kms. Very happy with that and the car overall. Expect consumption should drop a little more when the summer comes.
What rims do you have ? Thanks :)
che velocità andavi eri in autostrada?
@@francescoluparella3089 Buona domanda... :=)
@@gery4870 20" with Bridgstone Turanza ECO summer tyres
@@francescoluparella3089 110km/h
I think overall the ID4 is a very good family and long trip car with potential for further improvements in the Software area.
Great to see the ID4 matching Tesla 3! I’d opt for more space and comfort every day.
Excellent Vidéo. I am glad I did order the ID4 after having looked at Tesla and Mach E. Can’t wait to get my car next month hopefully 🙏. Thanks for all your comments and information. Looking forward to your infotainment video. I have seen some already and depending on who is testing you get different opinions. There is for sure room for improvement but that is true for all EV manufacturer.
Nice video and fair comments. Do you subtract any time for having 6% left?? I guess you need to correct for any over-charging time??
Nice video, as always! Didn’t expect a new record with crosswinds like this, which is practically head wind both ways. 👍 I think you should have split the charging in two, though. Adding 40% at Ionity Lillesand and 40% at Circle K Telemarksporten, would have cut the charging time by approx 10 minutes.
Even with 4 minutes of extra overhead, you would be at 6:50.. (ABC, always be criticizing.. 😉)
Me neither, so I was genuinely surprised! Yeah, you're right that there could have been some time to save in charging twice. But I'm pretty sure that the overhead would be more than 4 minutes. But still, some time could have been saved :)
So glad I ordered the ID.4 over the e-Niro... Specifically for this kind of trip it saves a substantial amount of time due to faster charging. And I drive a lot of these trips (400-500 km).
I do wonder if another charging strategy could have saved some additional minutes. Charge to 60% and then add another 25% somewhere else at a lower SOC.
I think you made the correct choice as well :) Yeah, you could probably save a few minutes with an additional charging stop, but then the question is. How much of a detour is the second charging stop? Will there be vacant chargers? Will you have som issues with charging? How much time do you actually save? There are many "what ifs" :)
It is amazing how much infrastructure has been built in Norway considering the country has a large territory and small population and the winter weather is not helping in construction over there.
Yes, it's heart-warming to see how environmentally friendly a country can be as long as it earns enormous amounts of MONEY FROM EXPORTING FOSSIL FUELS to other countries.
@@reinplat at least its not exporting wars, religious fanatics, pandemics etc. nice talk, bye
Great video by the way...
Thanks :)
Fun video to watch and that's a great result for the RWD ID4. The real challenge is if the AWD ID4 would still beat the Mustang Mach-E AWD ER.
The Burger King restaurant which lies over the highway at 6:12 is just cool.
Nice video I live in Bergen will be buying the family edition.
Do you think it’s worth paying 5,000kr extra for the 20 inch wheels?
Veldig bra 😊, hadde vært interessant å se denne mot Mustang Mach-E LR RWD utgaven
( 14:15 ). It is very strange that some ID's have that kind of lag and others don't. I have never seen such a big lag with mine (ok, about minute after starting it can be slow, but not in normal use). If you watch Bjørn's recent video about infotainment, that is how mine works. Pretty snappy if you don't compare Tesla's software. Also there hasn't been a single issue with Apple Carplay. But cleary there are ID.x cars, that have huge lags and issues still after 2.1 update.
Agreed. Not sure what CPU they put in these things maybe just underpowered? But likely to do with software bootup, if so hopefully they will sort it soon.
@@AlanTov Up to date Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 Automotive.
What’s the model number on your Ray-Ban Justin sunglasses? 😎 Lost mine and can’t find the right ones online.. the glass/tint on these are superb for driving. Works with head up display too.
Rayban Justin is the model :)
Thanks Kris for your good stuff, but please look at the sharpness of the Images, especially for 4k content....
There is nothing wrong with the sharpness of the video, you may be referring to the times my camera is struggling to focus on screens. I previously used Canon which has a different autofocus technology than the Sony I now use, and it seems Canon manages to focus better on screens in general. But since I bought the Sony camera back in januar after my Canon broke, I won't be switching any time soon.
If you live in Canada, this is the best car for the money. Period. You'll get full goverment grants ($13000 in my province) making this car just a few dollars more than a comparably sized petrol vehicule.
In the price range, we have 62kWh Leaf, Hyundai/Kia 64kWh trio, Chevrolet Bolt 66kWh... Until e-GMP comes with a more sensibly priced car, this will be the king of budget EVs in Canada as we don't get ID.3 (thanks to the US of A).
Mach-e and M3 SR+ won't qualify for federal grant as the base price is too expensive.
Hope VW sorts out the infotainment.
I hope there's a software update that fixes the infotainment, it seems to be a very nice car otherwise. Can't wait for the full review.
How does this work you drive the same route and the ID.4 drives it on 6h 56m with 42 min charge time but it still beat the Tesla that only charged for 30 min?
I guess he drove faster
More traffic when I drove the Tesla 😊
This is how you rig a test hahaha it's obvious... I don't know why Soo much bias against Tesla.... More traffic on the highway is a lame excuse hahahah if one cannot overtake In a tesla, I don't know which electric car does it better hahahah..... It's Kris s channel so he has every right to showcase as he wants the results to be...... For more authentic stuff you should follow Bjorn s videos....
@@MrMad0max Bjørn’s 1000km test is way from accurate. Some are done in the cold and maybe in rain and with a lot of wind and sometimes unlucky with chargers when charging and so on. And he is definitely a Tesla fanboy you can’t trust these for accuracy at all. My wife gets way uses way less kw on the same trip then I do so how you drive is also a important factor. Going from a to b should take about the same time whatever car you drive if you follow the speed limit, kw use and charging time is the only thing that should differentiate the cars.
@@royhoynes2787 guys! Keep in mind you don’t buy a car just from excel and data. You should buy your cars by trust of engineering and other factors like space, practicability e.g. A Tesla has more acceleration but it only can accelerate. On a German autobahn it’s getting way too uncomfortable at 160kmh. The suspension is not good enough. Volkswagen always does a great job with the overall suspension and stiffness so you have a much more solid fast driving experience. And this is only one example. The sedan opening is terrible for transporting furniture. In an ID.4 you could easily put a whole ikea session 🤣. Another example is when you buy a new car at Tesla you need to take a list of errors with you and look at your brand new car finding a lot of these. And I don’t meant the small kind of things. A loose steering wheel, not right adjusted headlight which turns into wind noise… . I love driving Tesla much but as much as I do for 60k€ I would prefer Polestar, Volvo, VW, BMW or other prime brands. At last you have to consider how often in a year you drive more than 500km where the charging thing is necessary to have. Guess what VW is topping the charging speed to 180kW I bet until September 😉😊
Love you're videos keep it up unlike others all what they talk about is tesla to get free cars!
I hope the Audi e-tron Q4 will have its own infotainment system. If so I am sure it will be a really great car. The weak point of the Id4 is obviously the software.
Yes it will have for sure the Audi MMI Technology we can see already in the ETRON´s like the Etron GT
The Q4 has the same MMI as the e-Tron. Not this. You can see that in several of the Q4 interior videos that's up on YT :)
Most likely, VAG will try to consolidate software (components) across cars on the MEB platform.
They will still look and feel Audi/VW/++, but writing core BMS, motor control, sensor monitoring, cabin & battery cooling/heating, even maps and entertainment specifically each time is just Plain Stupid!
You might be thrilled by the individuality of your car, but the cost is that once your car, and it's software is in production and signed, the original teams move on to new things and your car is left behind with miniscule updates, as they cost a whole lot, and the number of cars/owners birching over stuff not getting stuff fixed is to low compared to a project cost of minimal gains.
Am I snuffed as an Audi55 owner? Well, I hope it doesn't show, but I at least hope ID4/MEB is done correctly, and that the number of cars/owners forces VAG to realise software counts, and not AGAIN have to realise that what Lord Musk was correct, 10 years later
I think Audi announced to use Exynos Auto v9.
@@kompost1 a lot of text with a lot of non sense
Would it be roomy enough to sit 3 adults comfortably in the back need to know going to be replacing my taxi with a new electric vehicle
re infotainment. In the end you do core setup once or twice then just deal with sat nav, climate, media, charging and maybe mode. If they are easy to use then no problem. And they are easy to use on an ID3 and 4. Far too much fuss over things normal drivers hardly touch.
The manganese grey ID.4 Björn Nyland tested had a more snappy infotainment experience. 🤷
I agree, but VW should have at least got the basically design layout right. I mean there’s lots of cars out there where they could have pretty much just copied.
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Hi man, how can you get that result? 😳 You drive the same distance, at the same speed, and get better results with the iD4 than the TM3, though the charging time in iD4 was 40 min., and 30 min. in TM3. In my mind, that will be 10 min. better total time in TM3.😳
It is because of traffic, and being behind a car on the two lane sections that drives just a few km below the speed limit over such a large distance is enough. This is not a scientific test or done in a lab, so there will be variables in the real world that will affect the time. Which is also one of the points of the test. Traffic can have a bigger influence than range and charge speed. In reality this test is more of an approximation than a 100% accurate representation 😊
And the temperature was very different too.: -7 vs. +7
@@KrisRifa In that case, it does not come out well enough in the tests. 😞 When you clearly state in the test which car comes out the fastest, and show a ranking table, it can seem confusing to your followers. It took a while before I even perceived the "error" via the ranking table.
@@KrisRifa There is also a reason why I like the collaboration you have with Bjørn Nyland, when you test two different cars against each other at the same speed and the same distance.😉 Then you get a more realistic picture of the cars.👍🏻 But understands it is not easy to achieve all the time, and especially not in these corona times.
But by all means, get on with the fine work you do! Likes to follow you.😉👍🏻
Less shifting shifting in B-role pls, making me sick. This is better than the last uploade video, i did not see that one to the end.
Try this in -7 degrees ;-)
Didn’t think Norway hade any highway. Most is 90km/h. Not like sweden with 110-120km/h.
110kmh in Norway
Hi Kris any plans to do an iX3?
Hope he does! I know TeslaBjørn is doing IX3 next week🤗
The only drawback is lack of frunk in VW ID4 vs Tesla or Mustang Mach E. But in AWD with fixed infotainment ID4 will sell like hot cakes.
Since the hood is comparatively shorter on an ID4, a frunk would mostly be used for storing charging cable, if they made the compartment for it.
The downside of a fruite is high possibility of additional wear on hood paint and possibility of users unnecessarily fscking around with with the electrical stuff there.
For the mackies' part: using the wet bar and spilling crap beer where there should be none.
From a manufacturers point of view; it is cheaper NOT to build crap a user doesn't know he doesn't need.
IMO a frunk is wasted space, Tesla could have made the hood shorter and give the space to the interior and trunk.
A frunk is a "solution" for EV platforms originally designed for ICE but if the car is designed for the start to be electric only there isn't any need for it other than trying to imitate the looks of an ICE car.
Not really since id4 has a bigger trunk than mach e so much better.
This assumes that the infotainment system is actually fixable.
Slow motion....driving in a eSUV and in the infotainingsystem.
That record will be beaten by the e -gmp Roadrunners from Korea. This Test is almost a chargingtime contest.
I rather would like to see, which car does the run with the most efficency. 5 kWh between an M3 to id.4/enyaq/etron on every 100 km is something not to be proud. Not bad for a SuV, but not good enough for the future of mankind.
Keep in mind the ID4/Enyaq are much larger vehicles than the Model 3. They are going to be less efficient by default given their aero and weight disadvantages.
@@yowvil Nobody forced VW to build huge cars. They took the Bestseller „tiguan“ as the refrence. I wish they choosed the ioniq 28 oder the audi a4 avant. If you put an egolf next to an id.4....your golf feels like an up!
@@susihormon7821 SUVs are what sells if you haven't noticed. That's why there is a Tesla Model X and Model Y.
It will be interesting to see the efficiency of the Model Y compared to M3 and ID4.
@@patrickgass5707 that would be a much more fair comarison, especially id4 vs model y as i believe model x fits in another segment all together....
Eh Bjorn does all d same...hehe
1st
400km / 90km/h ; 200km / 120km/h
So what you are saying is that a car which has almost the same battery capacity as the tesla model 3 LR AWD and has an average consumption of more than 6kwh / 100kms (23 of ID4 minus 17 of Tesla) does better in your special (rigged) test.... hahahaha Kris we all know you hate tesla, if you want to do better, i suggest get rid of the bias in your videos..... wish you all the best....
Get a grip. Kris actually mentioned temp differences on the Tesla run and showed the time just for idiots like you.
So what you are saying is a lighter, more aerodynamic vehicle will be more efficient than a heavy SUV. MrMad0max we all know you love tesla, if you want to do better, i suggest get rid of the bias in your replies.
@@AlanTov hahahaha before insulting someone I suggest you take a maths or a science lesson, if you had paid attention while your teacher was explaining, it would have helped save the embarrassment of your comments hahahaha
@@yowvil exactly what I am saying... Great you get it right... Wonder which part needs explaining.... Hahahah
I can also show any time I like... Hahahaha wake up and smell the coffee