The DOWNFALL of Millie Bobby Brown’s Ex Hunter Echo … the lies no one caught
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The rise and downfall of Millie Bobby Brown ex Hunter Echo is disgusting. Along with Hunter Echo continuing to bully and manipulate Millie Bobby Brown, he says he groomed her while dating, and we need to discuss the Millie Bobby Brown, Hunter Echo’s deflection, apology, hypocrisy, power dynamics, and manipulation that no one else is really talking about. Are we supposed to Believe Hunter Echo? Millie Bobby Brown? Stranger Things have happened and something doesn't sit right…
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Talk about the Drake Bell/ child stars situation please
You gotta keep pork chop!
Also I think you should do more about the shows the sexualized teens like PLL and the movies u talked about
I can’t stop thinking about the Danny Masterson SA upcoming trial and I can’t stop wondering about that. His BFF Wilmer had drama with vulnerable young women, it all seemed super suspish back in the day
Now there’s a trial and Scientology and all that mess, but I’d love to know what you think about this deep rabbit hole of bad mans behaviour
Billie Eilish’s boyfriend and/or ex boyfriend, idk i’ve heard some shady stuff but have no real opinion on it
what really baffles me, is how no one wants to hear women that constantly talk about how having grown men on their teens prey on them affected them and how we really want to protect younger kids from what we lived when we were younger.
I'm 19. I am still extremely uncomfortable with it all. I have been hit on by adults, and it makes me scared. I had a teammate in high-school think it wasn't that bad that she, a 17 year old at the time, was talking to a 22 year old guy and she would listen to no one about it. I worry for her.
I literally learned through experience to be weary of older men since the age of 12. Walking around malls with friends was anxiety inducing if you paid attention.
@@fryingpanvan I just commented this somewhere else but when I was 13, I was talking to a 21 year old and saw no problem with it. It wasn't until I was much older that I realized I had been s*xually abused. She'll eventually realize she was, too. I just hope she can deal with it okay when she does.
Yup. I’m 24 and still recall men hitting on me when I was 11 or 12. Sometimes even younger! I just don’t understand why some men think that’s okay…
@@Emma-zc5jm same. Learned from experience as well. I thought I was "wise beyond my years" that's why older men hit on me. My first boyfriend was 24 when I was 16 and the emotional and verbal abuse and manipulation I went through with him, to the point that I was scared of breaking up with him even if I knew I want it to end. It's years after that I realized all the wrong things I've experienced with older men.
“ imagine being a grown man and dating a child”... he literally admitted to grooming and tries to play the victim is just infuriating, and he admitted She was a child and he was a grown man, which means he knew full well what he was doing. “ she used her powers on me”... does he not realize how stupid he sounds?
Someone who was only known by doing weird lazy shit on tik tok, lets not expect much, the dude doesnt even reach the 3 digits iq.
He’s asking for pitch forks here
@@MissJiGsSong Hey! That's an insult to people with 3 iq points.
How come nobody is talking about millie's parents though?
@@emmanuelstyles6345 of course a guy would say this. Guess what, there are so many parents out there raising girls like millie who started dating when the mom was underage and the dad was an adult. So, it doesn’t occur to the mom that this is unacceptable even if her relationship was abusive, because her parents had the same dynamic. It's a family cycle in some communities.
An ethical justice system protects children even from harm their parents could put them in or enable.
Just think how many places in the U.S allow child marriage at any age as long as the parents sign their signature.
Making "what the parents allow" the boundary between the child and harm only enables more harm to children with shit parents.
Tbh I have parents that are 11 years apart but the key point was my parents were *adults* when they met. To me the gap itself isn’t the issue it’s the ages themselves. A 26 dating a 37 year old is extremely different from a 26 dating 15 year old. Both parties should be adults, not just legally but developmentally.
exactly
Completely agree!!
And the key part should also be to be in similar stages in life. Someone studying and not working (possible in Germany where I live) while the other one is full-time working are still at very different points in life. Work and managing an income bring another experience to you. Plus different incomes can create a power imbalance. It's such a complicated topic :D but generally, yes, people meeting as adults is very much different than when one of them still is a child
That makes so much sense!
Couldn’t have said it better
"boys are GIVEN the right to act childish well into adulthood whereas girls are sexualised from the moment they hit puberty" -- I swear, I learn something profound every time you uplaod
From the moment we are born... unfo
@@jarkachalmovianska7812 That's a truly scary thought but with the toddler pageantry and whatnot, you're probably right.
i think everybody is sexualized from a young age, like baby onesies that say “ladies man”
it’s not just girls, unfortunately. it’s just more violent towards girls/women i think
@@reckless_herbIt's also more common for girls to be sexualized when compared to boys. The stats on it are easy to find, including ages of first sexual male gaze and first age of street harassment. For example, one study done on women showed that 18% of them experienced street harassment the first time at 10 years old or younger.
It does happen to boys, but it's just not at common. That doesn't mean it should be ignored.
@@kristajones7202 oh yeah, it is more extreme for women/girls. I just know a lot of guys who’ve been taken advantage of, and don’t even realize it. It breaks my heart that it happens to anyone at all
For someone to even think it was okay to say what he did is astonishing
Truth. At the same time, at least he was dumb enough to out himself all on his own. Less work for the rest of us.
Oh yes, I wish they were all just as dumb
@@frumtheground right :/ now if only they all did that
But think about it, how does society usually respond to things like this? Legally? He said it because he knows he'll most likely get a slap on a wrist.
@@ooostarb3rryooo Agreed. Legally nothing will happen and he knows it just like most of his ilk, and even if anything did happen he'd be let off or his crime not taken seriously by the legal system (I mean the fact that any state has the age of consent as young as 16 pretty much says it doesn't take it seriously). But society, people here, are outraged and condemning him at the same time. If anything I think it shows society's malaise toward our legal system because we know it doesn't work for us among other things.
He and his sister are perfect examples of how money doesn't buy you class. They are straight trashy individuals!
omg what did his sister do?
@@liontoyou9518 She said gross things about Millie too and supports Hunters behavior and agreed he did nothing wrong.
@@xoMrsWentzxo
That’s jealousy and envy right there. You can tell when she’s talking about Millie. Sucks to be her.
dont forget about their very trashy friend
I’m late to this party but is that nasty woman who’s way to old to be partying much less with young men that age actually his SISTER? They sound like trash! And HOW is no one talking about his reaction to his friend saying he released the pictures, his reaction is funny, but no where NEAR AS FUNNY AS THE GUY IN THE BACKGROUND (mouth agape) reading the comments 😂😂
The tone of Hunter’s voice in his live tells me that he thinks it’s a joke and so funny. He had no remorse at all. And saying “it’s a power imbalance” is trying to throw a reverse James Charles, and would only be true if Millie was the adult in this situation and he a minor, which the opposite is true.
It is a joke to him because he knows the odds of being held accountable is next to 0. He'll lose a few thousand viewers for a couple weeks, someone else will get exposed for being a creep and he'll be right back to having 13 year old girls donating to him and making weirdly sexual comments
the way his smile left the chat when the other person said he leaked the pics was the only good thing in the live imo
"Hollywood doesn't want to let women age and doesn't want to let men feel like they've aged." This is so true. I thought exactly the same recently when I saw a few movies in a row, where the main guy is a Hollywood superstar in his 60s or 70s and we give him a 30yo actress to play his wife.
He has the face of a criminal who knows exactly that they will never be held accountable by law for what he does and will even keep his career. I'm done with this age where men can get away with their crimes because some people find them attractive and because they make lots of money. He deserves to be banned from tik tok.
There's still hope 🙏
He deserves jail.
TikTok is hardly career. He looks like every other douche. Hope he gets his karma big time.
What is the face of a criminal? Can we just spot them by their face now? This comment is dumb.
Patricia some guys have rapey ass faces lmao but you’re giving strong pick me energy - and the commenter was clearly referencing his smugness and his boldness admitting what he did knowing he won’t face any consequences
I remember Kirsten Dunst being asked about kissing Brad Pitt in 'Interview With the Vampire' as though she had some scoop to give to all the jealous WOMEN. Kirsten was ELEVEN YEARS OLD when that movie was filmed. ELEVEN. So she gave the answer any child would give, it was gross. Ew.
Brad Pitt was 30.
Jesus Christ this one is insane!!!! Also the Jennifer Connely / David Bowie age gap - she was 16, he was 39. The literal Wikipedia article for the movie says ‘Jareth truly does love Sarah’. HOW is this okay?!
Forgot to mention the movie for this one is Labryinth, one of my favourite movies, but the blatant romanticisation of this age gap ruins it
THANK YOU!!! I remember some friends of mine watching that movie when I was over and not understanding why I WENT THE FUCK OFF on how absolutely disgusting what they forced a LITERAL CHILD to do, say, and act was
Oh my god I had no idea about this. That's so gross. Why in the fuck would they do that and why would he even agree to it? I have so many questions.
It’s taken me 10 years to recognise that what happened to me was grooming.
I was 16 years old and had just come out of a mental hospital for an ED / S attempt. I was so vulnerable. He took advantage of me. He was 32 years old, 14 years older than me.
What really fucks me up is that my parents knew this was happening for over a year and never said/did anything. I do feel betrayed more by their inactions than his actions.
I'm so sorry to hear that...I was groomed when I was 16 as well and have only just recently really accepted that it happened. He worked at my HS...
I understand this feeling of betrayal. Because the office ladies knew and did nothing. Friends knew. Did nothing. Some are STILL friends with him today.
You're so brave for speaking your story. Thank you. And I hope you're healing.
I was 5. My abuser was 32. Yes I have ptsd.
@@Kittychanmao Do you think we’ll ever heal from it?
@@Jessiepoo91 I don't think wounds fully heal. They scar. It doesn't go away, but we survive. Some days may be harder than others, of course. It's important to reach out during those times. And know that, no matter how much it can hurt, you're not alone.
@@Jessiepoo91 I have had a lot of therapy. No we never are like we may be before. But after 29 years my acute complex ptsd is on its way to remission. It never goes a way, but pain is not our default. I recommend CPT as it helps at the root of the issue. It allows you to actually possess what happened and gives you building blocks to start to heal. Also, we did nothing wrong and are not broken. We did what we needed to survive. All the shame is on the abuser.
The fact that the media is twisting Millie's experiences and appearance as "adult style" (as if stylists and others aren't making that image for her) or "rage" (implying her being hurt by being sexualized as a child is unwarranted or overreacting) is just sick and shows that the attitude of the adults in the industry is the problem. Not to mention the obvious differences in how her male counterparts are treated by still being sexualized as if a kiss on screen is equal to a sincere romantic kiss and "oh you put the moves on her," bs is just as gross. The poor kid clearly didn't like talking about his costar that way and was just going along with it because he's so used to being talked to that way about her.
Why are all these adults so interested in these children's romantic lives??? How is it not creepy???
You’re so right and it’s so unfair because it’s really anything with the media. With Courtney Stodden is was that she was “promiscuous like an adult” and with Millie she “dresses in expensive clothes like an adult”. Sorry but she’s dressed in trendy clothing not ‘adult’ clothing. A kid in adult clothing still looks and acts like a kid and is a kid. Idk what’s not clicking
@@zahrahali8631 what's especially frustrating is that her stylists are playing into it as well. Like in one of her red carpet walks wearing a completely backless dress. We associate things like that with adults. Adult women. They dress her that way because they know it elicits a certain response and it's to appeal to the male gaze while completely ignoring the fact that she's a child. And dressing her with that expectation on purpose is very strange. Idk how you could reconcile that. A 16 yr old kid can still look fashionable and such and still dress like a kid. Just let kids be kids! I know we've come a long way since Judy Garland and garbage like Blue Lagoon, but not far enough!
You're right. It's incredibly creepy. Since stranger things came out and millie was all over high fashion magazines, I got a bad feeling about how she would be treated once she hit puberty. Remember that super editorial shoot she did with vogue? She was too young for that! She needs to be protected more.
When a movie does too much romanticizing of the physical aspects of children loving or crushing, on each other I immediately am reminded of 'the male gaze'.. except in this case it's 'the adult gazes'...
-all those cinematographers, cameramen, editors, directors and producers and This, is what y'all wanted???? You're sus
"16year old not mentally or emotionally fully developed in the brain... And thus is a child". Me, 27year old still figuring out my mental well-being - how can we expect that from a 16?!!
Right??? I'm "grown" but I still feel like I'm... Just... Not. At all.
A 16 year old whose life has been under the microscope and repeatedly scrutinised by the public since she was 12, might I add.
@@midwintersnight right! Definitely hasn't had the normal experiences to learn from. Also, we've learned that imitating the lives of others as children is actually detrimental to their mental wellbeing in adulthood, if not properly addressed.
I’m 34 and just now figuring shit kind of out…
And then guess what happens when girls and young women who were highly sexualized since the age of 12 get to be over 35 (& heaven forbid, 40) and no longer viewed as desirable by society standards, they are forced to try to stay young to maintain what value they once had. The insecurity is never ending for women. It's so fcked up and backwards. I really hope things change. I think we have a chance when so many people speak up in such an intelligent way.
When I was 18, I had a relationship with a 30 year old man. It was the worst relationship I've EVER had, and even other bad relationships I had did not leave such lingering consequences as this one did. Even though it was perfectly legal, I was VERY inexperienced and he wasn't. Constant gaslighting and psychological abuse. It's been over 10 years and I still haven't processed everything.
I'm sorry you went through that. I hope you heal soon, sending you lots of love ❤️
so sorry this happened to you...
I was in a similar situation. I was 20 and he was 31 and he mentally emotionally and physically abused me and it happened 6 years ago and I haven’t processed all the abuse either and I was with him for 5 years 😭
@@kayleewest8171 I'm sorry it happened to you. I don't think we ever fully understand that we were abused, but it does get better. I got married eventually, and I live pretty well now. Hope things will be ok for you ♥️
Sorry for your experience, must have been harsh
when I was 20 I dated a 40 yo and was a lot of fun, least problematic relationship I had.
I guess it depends more on the person than the age gap itself.
Keira Knightley was 17 in the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean film. Kirsten Dunst was 10-11 when she had to kiss Brad Pitt in Interview with a Vampire. Brooke Shields was very young when she had to play a child prostitute in Pretty Baby. Mila Kunis was 14 when she played Jackie on That 70s Show. Women in Hollywood have been sexualized for many decades now and it makes me feel awful for them. We need to stop this from happening, period!
Don’t forget the countdown timers for the Olsen twins and Emma Watson to turn 18.
*Girls in Hollywood
I wouldn’t add Mila Kunis in that category, the producers wanted an 18 for the role and she lied and told them she would be turning 18 but never told them when. They didn’t find out she was 14 till filming was about to start.
Emmy Rossum was 16 when she did The Phantom of the Opera
This man makes me so angry, but what pisses me off more are the parents. They BETTER be doing better to take care of their daughter. This situation just keeps happening in Hollywood and honestly the parents are always non existent and I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND IT
It’s sad, but she was set up for this to happen. Her parents were sus from the beginning, selling everything they had and moving to Hollywood to make her a star, letting her be styled much older than she is, letting her associate with men much older than her (Drake). She’s just a cash cow to them. I await the inevitable memoir or blowout when she reaches 18.
As a parent who went through this type of situation with my teen daughter, there is only so much one can do. The police would not allow the parents to take out restraining orders; only the daughter could do that, but when the daughter is convinced she is "in love" and that "age doesn't matter", there isn't that much parents can do. They sneak around behind the parent's back and pull all sorts of stunts and secret rendevous. So don't assume the parents were at fault or never tried to stop anything. You aren't in the family; you don't know the full details and only see the man and the girl. It's not fair to so harshly blame the parents. I hope one day you don't have to go through something like this as a parent yourself. It was hell and lasted several years until the daughter went to college out of state. Then it became a different kind of anxiety. Fortunately she never got pregnant and has a steady guy now close in age.
@@ReviewsAndMore9 Thank you for your perspective! It’s true, there’s only so much a parent can do. We have a similar situation in my family - though it is a loving relationship, despite a huge age gap. We still hope for a breakup but that’s about all we _can_ do. Hope you and your family are doing well ♥️
@@ReviewsAndMore9 I’m not denying those situations happen, they certainly do. However, Millie’s parents have a pattern of questionable behaviour regarding their daughter. Moving country to ‘make her a star’, making a literal child the sole breadwinner of their entire family, deliberately making her appear older. It paints a picture of parents who have been putting this girl in danger to get ahead. This incident is just part of it.
@@ReviewsAndMore9 I don’t doubt you did everything you could, but Millie’s parents allowed this man to move in with their underage daughter. There is no excuse for that.
I think it’s pretty funny he destroyed his reputation not by actually abusing her bc it wasn’t known, but bc he made that live stream. Now he’s forever stapled his reputation of a child abuser. Every acting/ sponsor job will google his name and the first thing that will come up is him bragging about s.a. Ing a famous child. I love that for him.
Literally…did Billie even say anything ?
@@LKTori who?
@@LKTori that’s p funny tho. That you confused the two most famous girls in the world rn. Billie Eilish and Millie Bobby Brown. I totally get why. And to answer your question I think her representation has said they plan to take legal action, but she herself has not responded.
@@Meanie74 Oh sorry my bad it was a typo ! I was talking about Millie i just didn’t type her name
@@LKTori it’s no big deal i got what you meant. I hope they find a way to sue him. But either way he tanked his career by trying to get famous quick through sleeping with a child and then bragging about it.
I’ve been watching PLL again recently and today with a friend we discussed how aria dating a teacher made me think it was okay to date a man that was in his twenties when I was 14-15 😅
Honestly same. I’ve never watched PLL but there was this Japanese drama that I’d watched as a teenager where a 17yo boy gets involved with a 30-something female teacher, and back then i would be like ‘let them be in love!’ and antagonise everyone that tried to separate them. Because at the time I put myself at the teenager’s place cause I was the same age. Now that I’m 30, I see myself more as that teacher, and it makes me understand how fcked up it truly is. Like I would NEVER EVER. The fact that this kind of stuff is still often seen as normal romance, forbidden love, instead of the bullshit it truly is is mind boggling.
It’s so gross because as a young teenager, I romanticised this relationship because of the way it’s portrayed in the show, which then caused me to look at all my teachers from that same view. The impact this has on young girls that watch/watched PLL is huge and is not okay!!
I always thought it was weird even when I was a kid and didn't know Arias age. I always got irritated because no one in the show seemed to really question it.
I love f-up stories, but when the author portrays it as ''normal'' it's just disgusting.
@@plzleavemealone9660 yes!!! And my friends would support it and I would get upset like how is this cute. It’s weird.
It's even weirder because they definitely do not get married like that in the books. I think he goes to jail?
Seems like this all started when he found out Millie was dating someone new... he thinks that if he embarrasses her.. everyone will ditch her, he’s truly deluded for sure.
Swoop: "I'd say stranger things have happened."
Me: "STRANGER THINGS. Because Millie... was in Stranger Things... nope not intentional? Well shit."
Hahahah that was definitely intentional... wondered who'd catch that!
@@PettyUniversity I certainly did 🤓
she’s so clever, I love swoop
Same! 😂
Honestly, the fact that that joke wasn’t commented on in the video made me feel like I imagined it
“Confessed groomer hunter” sounds like a good show actually. Hunting confessed groomers and beating them up
I dated two older men when I was still underage & during both “relationships” it was done because they feel young girls are easy to manipulate and can do whatever they want to to them. As an adult I would’ve never dealt with them at all or give them a second glance even.
Say it louder!! As a 26 yeard old woman I wouldn't dare look at someone two years younger than me, tops, let alone anyone under the age of 20, or 18?! As a person in your mid to late twenties (not saying that's Hunter's case ftr) what the hell do you have in common with a teenager! Their level of maturity is nowhere near yours. Whether they want to admit to it or not, it's because dating someone that much younger than them makes them easier to manipulate and that's it. It's gross. Date someone around your own age ffs, or can't you get a girl your own age bc they don't put up with your bs? 🙄
It's also so gross that we'd been normalizing that shit for so long. I remember being 13 and meeting the cousin of a cousin (which makes it even WEIRDER) who was 26 at the time!! TWICE MY AGE!! and how long he tried to get with me, when I tell you it was YEARS. Then I got into college and boy, I must've stopped being attractive for him now that I was an adult 😑 but how everyone encouraged it and was surprised that I wouldn't appreciate his advances bc he was older, I should've been flattered according to them. As a 26yo myself now I can't help but think you have to be deeply disturbed by trying to get into a 13 year old's pants. I was a fucking CHILD.
Yeah i remember being 16, 17 and having female friends who dated guys in their 20s. When you're a teenager you thinks it's cool to hang out with older people, but now in my late 20s i realize that shit was weird af.
@@LeilaleilaZ He was in it for the sex, nothing more. They are all in it for the sex and bragging rights.
Thank you.
@@ReviewsAndMore9
They also are in it because women their own age see through their shit easier.
I'm an adult now. But when I was teenager my own parents told me they were hoping for an older man to be my first boyfriend, like in their mid to late 20s...because they would be more mature and thus better and of more guidance to me. Needless to say, I'm in therapy now.
That’s so distrusting. I’m sorry you had here that kind of thoughts growing up.
yikes
I can't believe Swoop singlehandedly found the root of the issues we see nowadays: We live in a DARVO Society.
When I was 14 I dated a 19 year old. I am 26 now.
Last week the guy reached out to me. Someone gave him my phone number for some reason.
I stood up for myself and told him what he did was unacceptable.
He told me that I was the one who pursued him. That I was all over him. He put all the blame on me.
I was a child.
okay but the comments on his instagram live is fucking amazing RIP HIM TO SHREDS YES
I’d be curious to hear your take on Aaron Taylor-Johnson potentially being groomed by his wife, who is 23 years older than him. Granted, he was 18 when they met. But it’s a very uncomfortable situation. It’d be interesting to hear about a grooming situation with the genders reversed
He was actually much younger than 18 when they met. They "got together" when he was 18, but she was his boss for a long time in his teen years. It's definitely a groomed relationship worth talking about.
this right here! i never see a video on 'role reversed' grooming! and grooming can very much happen to any kid with the groomer being any adult
He was younger than 18, but it would be a good video for her to do
@@specializedchemicals6669 I've actually seen quite a few videos on these lately, most memorable one being Sloan's. It's slowly taking traction because it's a topic creators want to discuss, but it can be difficult when they also need to discuss current events.
@@specializedchemicals6669 there is a video about that...i think if you search aaron taylor-johnson and grooming it will come up.
This was so gross. And his "apology" was fake af. And I also feel like her parents failed her. But when I was 15, I dated a 18 year old and I wish I never did..because he ruined my life
So sorry you went through that
I never related to something so much. My parents didn’t agree with it but they let me date him because it was my choice and I wish they never let me.
Bruh
"1 in 5 girls is SAd *at least* once in their life". It's so distressing that there is a "minimum" and I don't think there are enough people who talk about how many of us are victimised multiple times.
For someone like myself who suffers from undiagnosed ADHD who can’t stay for longer than 3 minutes on a video to then switch to Instagram stories, then reels, tik tok, and then back to the RUclips video I started 😅 I find myself watching your videos the whole way through. Truly a talent girl 🥰
Edit: I’m not claiming to have something I don’t have. I said undiagnosed for a reason due to the fact that one, I haven’t been diagnosed. And two, I just received health insurance after not being able to meet with a physician for 3 years. I have many other symptoms other than just having a “short attention span”
I could have said self-diagnosed but I don’t agree since I’m on the same boat as some of y’all in the comments 🙂
That's kind of you to say and share thank you!
Same
Holy shit I do the same ☠️ sometimes even use the computer and phone at the same time just to be in two platforms, maybe one of the videos is sped up bc I get bored lol. Should I get checked or... 😞
@@AMELIA-oj5qk lmaoooo i love this, doesn't sound like a bad idea 😂
Have u tried watching most of your videos at 2x speed. I do the same as u and it helps me to change the speeds when I find myself leving the video because of my short attention spand
Imagine being a whole adult man and his friends talking shit about a minor, you know your life means very little when you have to resort to picking on children to get your name out there.
The fact that he’s confessed to what he did and is still smug is baffling to say the least
When he said “I gOt mEenipulAteD” 💀
love it every single time swoop takes us to petty university. CLASS IN SESSION!
Listen... Fall semester is about to go off!
Yes...I LOVE petty university!
His sister also ain’t sh** too smh…. If my brother talked about any woman like this let alone a 16 year old child. I’d punch him square in his face! No hesitation. Idc if he on live. We. Are. Fighting. The fact them ppl just laughing in the back is gross. I shouldn’t even have to say it but what if it was they sister or cousin he was talking about?! Wouldn’t be laughing then I bet
Honestly until I got older I never realized that having an age Gap so big in your twenties was a big deal once I got to 31 I realized I have been taken advantage of quite a bit throughout my late teens and early twenties. It's been alot to cope with and something I'm still dealing with that your videos make me feel a lot better about it❤ keep doing what your doing swoopn cause u are helping alot more ppl than u know!
Also Votes for keeping porkchop! Yes please!
Same here, it’s so strange to look back and go over what I thought okay and realizing I was in a very unhealthy position.
@@kenzieleeftw x z
There’s a famous saying in the criminal justice system called “lawful by awful” insinuating just because something is legal does not mean it is right or moral.
Please look into Brooke Shields (I think that’s how it’s spelt) childhood. It’s absolutely horrendously gross 🤮 what that poor woman endured thanks to her mum 🤬
Is this the young girl that was exploited by Playboy’s gross magazine?? She was literally 11!!
@@kythefairy2029 yes thats her. it makes me wonder how as a society do we stop these things that happen in front us?? not asking you personally just a question in general because i see these things and i dont know what to do but i know i would take action if i had the course. if that makes sense. ://
my mother uses the DARVO thing to excuse her abuse towards me and my siblings and im so glad you went over that. due to my mom using that excuse nobody believes us so im glad to see people believing the victims
When SWOOP posts you know you got lucky
Agreeeeee 🧷
Thank you Swoop for your final words there. They meant so much to me. My childhood S A at the hands of my father had scarred me beyond belief and has truly resulted in some pretty shitty decisions I’ve made along the way.
“It is HIS SHAME, NOT MINE”.
Bless you. I too am so freaking sorry for your experiences.
Love and hugs from me to you. ♥️♥️♥️
Just awful. I wouldn't have been able to cope with any of that at 17.
As a survivor, I want to thank you for how you talk about these things. Stories like these can be very triggering, but you break things down in such a survivor-honoring way and I really appreciate how you always remind the survivors in your audience what we need to hear (it wasn't our fault, all our emotions are valid, etc...) 💜
Swoop is killing it PER USUAL I MEAN HELLO?! 🥳
I'm going to share a bit of my past. I was child gr****d when I was 4-16 years old by a family member. I did not realized at the time. I thought it was normal until I was 20 years old. I did not know what gr****ing was until I watched your videos. Thank you for everything that you do and helping me realize that IT IS NOT OUR FAULT! Sorry I had to do that in all caps. Thank you so much Swoop I am truly grateful. To all surviors out there, You are strong, beautiful, amazing but most of all you are not a victim but a survior! You are brave and you are still here. We are strong together. I love you all. Keep being amazing!
For a minute I was so disappointed I thought the algorithm had blocked you! But no I'm just on time for once
I think age gaps are fine if the younger party is in their 30s, they're both mature and stable, so power imbalance is minimal. Then age really is "just a number".
Agreed. Round about that age you figure out who you are and what you want and are able to hold your own.
Swoop is my dose of another person reminding "it's not your fault." Also happy someone else feels similar emotions to me on this topic. Thank you, Swoop.❤ I also would like to hear Swoop's take on how we failed Britney Spears; 16 when she became famous and was portrayed as "insane" or "unstable" in her mid 20's. (I'm currently in my mid 20's and I emotionally feel that "unstable" lable they forced: meaning if the media "cared" about me they would label me, a normal woman docs aren't concerned about, as "unstable".)
“And I will never apologize… “
two seconds later: “ I am sorry .”
Honestly such a horrible situation, I saw parts of the live and it made me feel sick the way he talked about her.
Oh shit, darvo viewer was me (I think!). It was surreal to feel like my comment had an impact but I'm happy to help! Also, isn't it ridiculous to point out that her family allegedly knew as if befriending the family isn't part of common grooming behavior 🙄
YES!! i finally caught a Swoop video early!! SENDING SO MUCH LOVE AND SUPPORT YOUR WAY! :)
Yay thank you for being early and the love! Appreciate you all so much!
I was 17 and thought it was cool for some reason that a 30 year old wanted to pay attention to me and when I finally snapped myself out of it and told him we couldn't do the things we were doing he tried to pull the "But you were finally teaching me to love again" or some BS, like straight up trying to manipulate me. Yeahhh glad I avoided that one.
Another young child that "we" failed after theyre famous. Brooke, Megan and so on. So sad that this keeps happening to young young girls.
He's stupid to take this as a joke - "she used her powers on me" playing on the fact that she acted as a gifted child in a TV show...."her nose started bleeding and I was like oh shiiiit". Ugh.
Her friendship with Drake is kinda weird too don't you think?
Oh it exposed the shit out of him. People went through all his girlfriends and they were all barely 18 when he started dating them. Like a...groomer??
He reminds me so much of my "ex", who "dated" me when I was 15 and he was 21. He told everyone all about what we'd done together, and he dragged my name through the mud. He made me out to be manipulative and he was the victim! I hope MBB is okay ❤️
I always thought the age of consent was with other people that age? Like if the age of consent is 16, I thought that was for other sixteen/seventeen-year-olds, and it was universally (used loosely) known that you still had to be an adult to be with an adult despite the age of consent?
Age of consent is usually defined as the age that a person can engage in sexual activity, in general. Some states have Romeo and Juliet exceptions that allow for teens to not be charged for hooking up within certain age ranges that can be under the legal age of consent.
Personally I think age gap relationships are fine when both are ADULTS. But when it’s a child and adult that’s a different story... younger adults (18-25) are yes still finding themselves but I feel are developed enough to make less emotional decisions then a 14-17 year old
Sure, it's illegal lol
What’s truly the difference between 17 and 18 minus legality? Ppl fresh out of school are still just as immature.
You're welcome about DARVO. I've been screaming that shit on every video about this case.
You’re welcome?
"I have a short fuse with confirmed troglodytes"
READ HIIIIMMMMMMM
I actually clapped
congrats on 300k! so happy i found this channel, you’re amazing!
Awwww thank you!!!
Parents knew about it... I had my parents encouraging me to date a 17yo when I was 13. We had a 3 1/2 age difference. He didn't groom me cos he was also manipulated but it f*cked me up and still is a decade later. I can't image what a girl with fame would deal with. Shes too young to handle what she has had to outside of sexual stuff, she deserves better
When I was 14 I had a 30 something year old teacher groom me. He would gaslight me to the point where I really did feel crazy.
He would say "What? I don't watch you changing in the locker room. Youre always the last one to change. I think you must be seeing things since you're scared of being alone in there." And "Geez, I take you out because I'm trying to be supportive and you think it's a date?" And "I was only feeling you because your hair and skin are soft and smells good. ANYONE would've wanted to feel that softness and take in your scent. Here, don't I smell good? Touch me like this too. It doesn't mean anything, it's just human nature. Stop trying to make things weird, when it's not." It was horrible, because he was handsome and everyone liked him, no one believed he would do something like that. Heck, I couldn't even trust my own understanding of the situation. All I knew was that I didn't like it.
i entered a relationship with a 28 year old man when i was 16 (twelve hear age gap)
we were together for 3 years and it was awful. I have never been as sickly, thin, quiet, and FEARFUL in my life than those 3 years with that man.
I'm 22 now, dating s 22 year old who treats me so amazingly and loves me and cares about my health.... hes truly a dream partner 💕💕💕
When she said "should I keep porkchop" I was like, yes plz😍.
When you didn’t finish PLL and now know that Aria and Fitz got married.
I could never get through it but seeing them get married and Shay Mitchell with a baby had me shook to my core
like ma’am you were fifteen when I left you what HAPPENED
As someone who was r worded and groomed by SEVERAL ADULT MEN as a young teen, thank you for saying the things you've said through this video. I've lived with shame for so long because society makes me feel like the abuse was my own fault. It's refreshing hearing that it wasn't.
Hey girl, if you are ever looking for an animator/illustrator, I can do some Petty University upgrades or more! I have the experience for videos :)
Love love LOVE that you refered to him in the title primarily by his connection to Millie, an acomplished actress, and not just by his name. Usually women in are known for who they are to men rather than by their own acomplishments and its satisfying to see that flipped on its head. Although its not difficult when his only claim to fame is grooming a child and using her for clout....
Jesus, no wonder it took me 20 years for me to realize that my first relationship, when I was 14 and he was 18, was not ok but more importantly, not my fault.
not me breaking down crying at the end when she says sorry to all the victims... love you swoop- you are fucking amazing, thank you.
Millie got a PR team. She doesn't need to speak on anything.
Discovered your channel by accident yesterday and I’ve watch all of you docs so far and I love it. You’re so talented and you’re take on these situations is great. New sub for sure❤️
^^^ this!!! I found your page just last week and i’ve gone down a rabbit hole watching all of your docs! your amazing truly amazing at what you do!
Are we redefining "P-word"? How is Ben Shapiro going to explain his outrage the next time Cardi B puts out a song? 😂🖤
Ben Shapiro is actually a decent guy, he doesn't cheat or look at pron, if you knew anything about him you would know that, enough with the left and right BS
And cardi is a misogynist
@@metalmoth6608 are we talking about the same people?
He will reply succinctly and smartly and on video so that you can rewind and go back to the big words.
I remember being so grossed out when I watched Framing Britney Spears in that the interviews were just so inappropriate. We really haven't evolved that much though, have we? How depressing.
Omg those comments on his livestream are DRAGGING HIM TO FILTH 😂
As they should✨
I was groomed as a teen. It took me years to understand what was happening. But it happened. And he was the same way, just so proud of what he was doing to me. Emotional trauma like NO tomorrow. Of course it's still difficult to recognize it, and I was mad at myself for not understanding sooner... but I'm hella glad I made it all come to light. I feel for Millie 1000%, and it's so great to see that she hasn't let this control her. She's fighting for what I wish I could've fought for as a child, but I didn't feel my voice was heard enough.
PLEASE make a teal “petty university “ college sweatshirt. But on the topic of the video that’s so gross that he lies about being the victim
petty University is the only class i still attend and take something with me from😂👍🏻
He’s so pissed he had to apologize. His demeanor tells me he didn’t care at all. Ugh.
I said this on another video on the subject, but…
“She used her powers on me!”
Boy, she’s a human being and a TEENAGER, not the MK Ultra human experiment with telekinesis she plays on Netflix. And if she did have powers, somehow in this life, you would be dead.
It's just as damaging the way all those women sexualised Finn. Can't we live in a world where children and childhood are protected instead of preyed upon?! Also, would you ever look into how this is normalised in the world of anime etc?
Can we live in a world where adolescents are treated as such, instead of as very young children who are incapable of doing anything?
When Pretty Little Liars was popular my friends legit shipped the student and teacher couple. I told them that didn't they feel it was wrong or gross? They would tell me yah but they still want them together ._.
the woman defending him reminds me of the gf of the man who sexually harassed me, insisting that I'm lying & that I remove my post about the negative experience 😂😒 it's disappointing and gross
That's his older sister, and she seems to be as trashy as him. Runs in the family apparently!! Swoop didn't even include the revolting ass things she's said about Millie. She's absolutely horrible
"DARVO is an acronym for 'deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender'"
WHY THE EFF IS THIS NOT MAINSTREAM KNOWLEDGE!
Hey... you should look into Chris Delia, since he's so bold to comment knowing his past
the fact that you've lived through such traumatic experiences and can speak on it with an unwavering strength is AMAZING. helping others with your platform is a major reason why i love you, the kitten cleansers happen to be another reason. i just really respect that you use your experiences to help others and shed light on these issues and how we can come together to say "hell no, we won't stand for this." ❤
Your skin. I can't stop looking at your glowing skin and sparkly white teeth. My god, you're just so beautiful.
Everyone who thinks Swoop should keep Porkchop!!!!
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When I adjust turn 19 a 30 year old man started approaching me. He was in a position of power because he was a known musician and I was just trying to get my start in the promotions scene. It has taken me a long time to realize how gross that relationship really was. Thank porkchop for my therapist.
This just makes me so sad, angry, and sick. Makes me think of my experience with my groomer when I was 14, and he was 18. He did the exact same stuff that this p.o.s. is doing to Millie and I just really feel for her and hope she’s okay.. it’s so traumatizing to go through this
I LOVE the style of your videos, your editing style is 🔥. I just get so excited when a video of yours pops up, I know I'm in for quality and for some awesome sass. I'm also a student at Petty University, I hope to get my degree.
Thank you so much!
Is it bad that I want a SWOOP video for literally every single controversy 👀
I was literally so blown away by him *admitting* to shit and then acting like it wasn’t disgusting on HIS end??
I used to get scouted a lot as a child. But my mom always turned down any opportunities to enter the entertainment industry. It used to make me mad, because I felt like I missed out on a chance to be rich and famous. But now I know she was just protecting me from creeps, and I’m thankful to her for that.
I think i’m the first comment. I have watched only 2 minutes and already know this video is amazing. You always state facts !
Thank you for being early!
when I was 14 i started dating an almost 19 year old. I thought i was so mature, he said I was so more mature then girls my age. Shit he lived with us a year. I did things i didn’t really want to, for a year.
When I finally got out of it I started to realize what happened. I was being groomed for almost 2 years. I gave myself the blame for allowing it. I needed and still need time to accept what happend.
no matter how mature you think you are, you are a child not a woman. you are being groomed.