The DOWNFALL of Creepshow Art ... the lies and confession no one is talking about
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The rise and downfall of Creepshow Art with Emily Artful is disgusting. Along with Creepshow Art bullying, there are Creepshow Art lies and confessions that no one is talking about, and we need to talk about the lies and manipulation. Are we supposed to feel bad for Creepshow Art Shannon? Believe her? Something doesn't sit right...
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ALSO: In regards to Bailey Sarian: I’m seeing some confusion over when I said “get better idols: Bailey Sarian”. I was literally just quoting Bailey as that is one of her signature phrases! Bailey is a lovely human, and definitely deserving of all good things 💙
I’m here for it. How are you doing today Swoop?
Thanks for donating, you’re awesome!! Since you’re in the LA area, maybe you can do a video on what’s happening with the homeless on Venice Beach? I’m concerned about the whole thing and even found a video on TicTok of an old friend who has become homeless and lives there. He’s clearly mentally ill and dangerous, but not all the people are. They are there for different reasons. Perhaps cover the stigma against the homeless and what Cali is doing about it. I hear they are going to begin removing them tomorrow. Check out the channel German in Venice. His channel is full of powerful info. Love you babe!!
Wait are you saying Bailey is a good role model or not...? I’m so confused and oblivious 😳😂
@@klowen29 she always tells us to “get better idols.” Bailey is amazing!!
@@bubbles9287 ok big sigh! I always thought Bailey was amazing!
i like how im getting ads for academic universities, like no, i’m enrolled in Petty already, keep it moving
HAhahahahahahahahaha omg that made me literally laugh out loud
I keep getting ads for the mormon church and I'm a pagan worshiping heathen !!! 😭🤣💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂 this comment is gold!
@@nozomutsubasa3803 i keep getting goddamned pragerU ads. All because I looked them up when I found out Chris Pratt follows them and interacts with their posts on insta. 😒🤡
@@blaah9999 may the gods bless your soul. I'm so sorry. Thats awful. Prager u is annoying as fuck and also literally full of lies and propaganda!
I discovered that my (now ex) boyfriend is a manipulative sociopath. After I discovered that he committed identity theft and ruined my life, I felt like I've hit rock bottom ..so hearing your words really gave me strength and pushed me to continue fighting to protect myself. Thank you, SWOOP
Please continue to take every step possible to protect yourself, and reach out to people you trust and/or the authorities in your area for support and assistance. Please stay safe 💙
Omg xiao 😰 I loved your channel growing so sad to hear this coming from from one of my favorite youtubers 💔
Remember that continuing to live despite him is the greatest revenge you can inflict on him..besides a court case of course.
The same thing has happened to me 😔💖 it's very hard to know your pictures and identity are being taken for someone's sick games, good luck moving forward and remember no one can capture every part of your life! No matter how hard they try
Psychopath is a slur
maybe this is why gabbie hanna and shannon's friendship ended quickly - they probably tried to pull some shit on each other, but you can't con a con
Omg they were friends?
this reminds me of the tumblr post of the two daddy doms whipping their belts at each othernfndndndn
They were FRIENDS?
ham flavored lip balm 😭😭😭💀
@@MissGlower she made an entire ass video defending her. Never watched it but I did watch clips from it after shit went down. She may have deleted it. Someone has a list of videos that have been removed/ privated and it’s a lot of content lol
Shannon claims she is good at online stalking yet she doesn’t know what a VPN is and claimed someone spoofed her ID for years anonymously. She is just a horrible person with no special abilities.
"Taking accountability" and "apologizing" is not even close to enough to make up for criminal stalking. If Shannon were to admit what she did to Emily she could be held criminally liable.
Unfortunately, it’s incredibly difficult to get charges brought against a stalker. My mom had a stalker for over a decade, one who she believes even broke into her home and tied her up (he was wearing a mask and gloves, plus it was pitch dark, but there were mannerisms she recognized). She was never able to get any legal consequences brought against him, even for the b&e because his best friend claimed he was at his house that night.
@@doubtful_seer It's awful it's so difficult. Emily herself even mentioned that she went to a lawyer and the police and didn't have enough proof. The system is broken.
@@doubtful_seer First, that's absolutely horrible, I am so sorry you're mother went through that. Was there no sweep for evidence after she reported this to the police?
I'm sure it's normally impossible, but if the stalker ADMITS to stalking that changes things, definitely if Emily pursues civil charges.
@@doubtful_seer that’s awful and I’m sorry to hear that, but I think this situation is a little different because Shannon is a well known RUclipsr. Emily outed her and her story creepily matches some of the rant videos Shannon had done, in particular the one where she talked about being stalked for 8 years (when in reality she was the one stalking Emily). At this point I don’t think she can put out a decent cover up story because she also outed herself by the community post she made where she said she was spoofed, and the aforementioned rant videos (which she deleted). The only way she can escape this is by completely leaving the whole internet, because if she does come back, people will still be wary of her, and if she does admit to having stalked Emily, that’s a confession that will be more than enough for the police to take action. Either way, it’s a loss loss situation for her.
@@doubtful_seer that’s why OP said “if she confesses”, though
What's worse with this story is that when she started youtube and stopped harassing Emily, she could have turned her life around. Go to therapy, make amends. She had genuine friends, people genuinely loved her. It's wild to purposefully ruin your own life. The degree of self destruction is high. And she wanted to bring people down with her. Sad.
Yea especially with Emily just saying I want to be left alone
She actually didn't. It was after a specific confrontation she had with Emily a few years after they both started making RUclips videos that she stopped. And that speaks volumes
The guy who said "How are you mean to Ready to Glare??"
SERIOUSLYYY
the viewers voice!
Yep... nick Snider and dustin dailey...
The viewers voice
she's not that nice, so why not
@@ChocolateMuffin308 bro as if. She's so lovely and kind. I could see this coming from Shannon but RTG is just so nice
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn you're joking right? Ready to glare is regarded as one of the most professional channels out there. She's not even seen as a commentary channel because she's a step above that
I feel sorry for Shannon's therapist rn. like how do you even begin the session ?
Lol
Play this Swoop video 😅
You leave the profession 😂 that's what I would do
@@candyalchemist omg Ty for replying I forgot the name of this creator and I couldn’t find it anymore. Now time to subscribe to the channel 🎊
Bold of you to assume that she’s gone to therapy. I'm not saying that she hasn't but if she actually listened to a good therapist then this never would have happened.
Man. Execution is 🔥 Swoop-Swoop
Just trying to get on your level D! You the real one ☝🏽
As always!!! Love these docs
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Hey man, how's life?
I'm learning more from this than in school
This is a topic that needs to be discussed more. My 16 year old daughter just experienced a friend turned psycho stalker situation. Thankfully, she is safe. But things did escalate to a very scary place. More people need to know what to look for and that not every stalker is some stranger. So, thank you for talking about this.
And to anyone that has been the victim of stalking, my heart goes out to you.
I’m so sorry your daughter had to go through that, I hope she will be okay ❤❤❤
@@Fio_Lynn Thank you. Luckily, we were able to intervene and keep her safe. She's doing much better now.
Yikes, that's scary. Kind of reaffirms my belief that children under 17 shouldn't be allowed to register for social media. I know that's wildly unrealistic, but young girls especially are warped by everything they see on FB and IG and Twitter and Snap and so on.
@@blackpajamas6600 You're so right. I tried to stay on top of who she was talking to and what kind of people were on her friends list, but when it was someone she knew personally, it threw me. And yeah, the types of "influencers" online and on social media can lead kids to do some crazy/dangerous things.
I was a victim of child abuse, my reaction to everything my abuser was doing was to be as meek and kind as possible and to try and do everything he asked even when this was impossible. This attitude and defense mechanism continued into my adult years until I realized I just could not live like that anymore. So never blame the victim if they do anything to feel safe or even just a little safer in reaction to any type of harm they experience.
My sister did that too. Totally valid and normal. I fought. Also valid and normal.
Me too . I rolled over because it kept me safe
@@thixiemattel my older brother was like you. Each person is a little different. My younger siblings were too young to remember everything. Thankfully the parental rights were terminated and we had great foster parents who took care of us.
@@Mantuamaker hope all of you guys are okay ✊🏻
i'm still trying to tell me mom she can say no to people because she stresses herself out to the max because she's too afraid to say no due to childhood traumas
THANK YOU for talking about Fibromyalgia as a trauma response! I’ve had it for 30+ years and only recently has that link been discovered. My heart is with you.
Same here. Like, I have fibro genetically and had pain all of my life, but it only came out in me in full force after I got some really really heavy life events happening all in one go. When I am stressed, or my CPTSD gets a bigger hold of me again, I immediately feel that my pain gets way worse. My heart is with you, and Swoop
Me: man the creepshow stuff just looks tiring i don't want to know anything about it
SWOOP: makes a ~40min video about it
Me: i'm about to become an expert
For me I was tired of seeing the videos everywhere about her so I was done with watching them lol.
OMG! Why did I just comment Amber the exact same thing?!?! 🤣 I ALWAYS click so fast!!!
Lol right! Her videos are the best for information 🤣
She was someone i used to watch, but it was when i saw that Giullia posted a video about it, that it was serious shit, though ive been keeping myself out of it, but did the same as you.
Same
About the "setting herself up to get caught" thing, I could imagine it being in a similar mindset with those who have kleptomania. There's this high may get when stealing something, but not because of the item they're getting, but it's the rush to see if they don't get caught. There's a possibility that Shannon is playing a game to see how close she can fly to the sun without getting caught, and could be kind of playing a game of chicken with herself.
I agree, it's a complete Icarus thing. Like having sex in public, part of the thrill is being naughty & possibly getting caught.
She flew so close to the sun that her brain fried
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 💀
There's flight, fight, freeze trauma response but there's also fawning trauma response which is usually when the victim use people pleasing tactics (consciously or unconsciously) as a means to diffuse the situation.
Absolutely!
I use the fawn tactic, and that’s actually where I got my online name “faun” from as a joke against my trauma response-
Too many people haven’t understood these trauma responses, especially in various comment sections. It’s been really triggering with this whole situation.
I fully related to Emily's reaction, I've been trying to spread the understanding of this reaction too. Freeze and fawn are so misunderstood but make so much sense it's wild that people don't get them to me
I feel like this helps explain Stockholm syndrome
I really appreciate the way you talk about abuse and survivors. Thank you, you give a lot of positive encouragement.
As a former fan of her, I’m glad it’s getting so much attention. What she did was GROSS and I think it’s something we should all look at.
What she did was heinous and she really needs a lot of help. Unfortunately, she probably won't hold herself accountable.
It's not drama, it's dangerous.
That really hit close.
the clips of her bragging about how great she is at cyber stalking are sooooo creepy and unnerving
Right? Like first of all, it’s not difficult to find basic info online, second of all - that’s so weird to brag about!
@@lesaubergines
Exactly, it's not as if she's hacking the fucking mainframe here. She almost seems edgy in her bragging. Like a sort of "notice this undercover, mastermind-like thing I do", you know?
I used to write disgustingly angry letters to myself when I had felt I deserved to be punished for something. To my shame, one of my ex-coworkers found one in my locker at work. She was a mom, who then told some other moms, and they all mom-bullied me (scolding me) every time I said something negative about myself. Somehow this never got back to my actual mom, who worked in the same company but in another department.
Don't know why would they think scolding you is the right approach. People struggling with mental illness (or even just self-worth issues) need actual help, and scolding them may make things worse. Yes, self-deprecation should be discouraged in such cases, but not by bullying. :I
I hope you're doing better
Literally everybody I watch was “close” with Shannon. She found a way to insert herself into all their lives. I feel like she was incredibly insecure and had impostor syndrome. She needed to accepted by these people specifically. Their talent or confidence or brand captivated her and she love bombed or trauma bonded with them until she felt a accepted but never got over how jealous and resentful she felt and had to vent her petty feelings anonymously.
Yeah I've noticed that, literally everyone from people with bigger platforms like Ready To Glare to random RUclipsrs with 3k subs they all seemed to have personal stories of interactions with her of varying degrees. So weird, I think you're right about the insecurity and maybe also hoping that if everyone is on her side she wouldn't get as much shit for doing bad things? I remember RTG saying she felt very confused and conflicted about whether Shannon could have really done this because Shannon had sent her flowers literally days before it all came out
This really made me want to dive deep into pyschology. Most people don't realize how deep mental illnesses can get.
I've been struggling over why she did the lolcow shit, and this is the first thing I've seen that makes sense.
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn right I think she needed their approval but secretly had a lot of gross personal thoughts about them.
Yeah I'm surprised at the amount & diversity of youtubers she was "friends" with. How did she even have the time & energy to keep so many balls in the air?!
As an abuse survivor, we absolutely respond to particular people and situations in a way that others might not understand. We have been torn apart, attacked on so many levels and if you don’t get it, then I’m relieved for you. Living in an abusive situation is horrific and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone 😞
Ngl the fact you found audio of her saying how good she is at internet stalking is prime 👌
I remember that vid, too
Truly is
this entire situation is such a mess and honestly so scary. someone having all of your information and following you for years is so- ?? like why?? I feel so bad for Emily and really hope she gets justice
there are four reactions to trauma, these are fight, flight, freeze and FAWN
fawning is an incredibly common reaction. most people will try to appease and diffuse a situation where or someone else is in danger.
people dismissing emilys claims based only on this is stupid at best
freeze is mine
I relate so hard because I've done that. Literally begged to stay with my abuser (because he threatened to throw me out on the street) and did everything I could to please him. People don't understand how degrading that feels, and often lose sympathy for victims who don't fight to escape their abusers.
@@lilscenechick1995 say it louder for the people in the back! Because this is true
Forget the F3 response. It's an F4 response: Fight, Flight, Freeze, or FAWN. This is what victims do with long term abusers, especially if there is a perceived power imbalance via whatever means. I still struggle with this to this day because of co-dependent parental programming. IT IS LITERALLY EMOTIONAL SURVIVAL MODE!
This is so important! Learning about the fawn response explained so much for me.
@@graysonrogers-barnes6302 I am so glad it was illuminating for you. It blew my mind when I learned about it too!
@@Vanquish12V I can only hope more people find out about it. I do my beat to share it when relevant.
@@graysonrogers-barnes6302 That is awesome of you to do that. I, too, try to always give my best in sharing any little nuggets of wisdom I find along the way.
Fawn is definitely its own particular brand of hell, but with a lot less outside compassion and understanding, I feel. There is this intense vibe of victim blaming that has just got to go. But the shifts are happening. We just gotta keep spreading the knowledge and compassion.
It gets even weirder. The whole thing is actually flock, fight, flight, freeze, fawn🤧😩 I don’t think many people know about the flock part of the equation. We love adding F words to the list😂
God I feel you on the boundaries thing. I suffered severe verbal bullying almost entirely alone (I had 1 friend) solidly from age 5 to age 10, and then shunning and being shit-talked behind my back for the entirety of high school (10-16) and as a result of that, especially the primary school thing, combined with anxiety and extreme rejection sensitivity due to my adhd, I became a chronic people pleaser and doormat. It got to a point that my brain still has a tendency to rewrite my entire reality so my worldview matches that of my friends, and I was (and maybe still am) constantly subconsciously altering my personality to be what the people I care about would find appealing. It's gotten to a point where I'm not entirely sure who I am.
I'm 23 years old, and only in the last year have I finally gotten the backbone to assert boundaries. Trauma really fucks you up
You've come so far in a short time you are strong and amazing!
wish we went to school together, maybe we would’ve felt less alone.
I’m a year older but had the same exact life lol. Also ADHD. Maybe we’re just like easier targets or something? :(
Keep pushing, keep exploring. I don’t think any of us know who we really are in our early 20’s so you are not to far behind . Keep trying new things and really be in the moment so you know if you enjoy it or like it . Good luck to you . Think of this as a fun time in life to find yourself ☺️. I hope you begin to heal from your trauma
Different beginnings but I’m in this post and I don’t like it
I literally heard "GET BETTER IDOLS" in bailey's voice omg lol
I thought she was dragging bailey for a second lmao
@@shinsei_bby6290 same! I was so worried lol
@satsumasaturn same me and my dad were like "uhh 👁👁"
@satsumasaturn RIGHT LMAO!!! 😭😭
me too LMFAO
I just hope Emily can recover from what happened to her it’s terrible what happened to her
I never watched Creepshow Art until after this drama surfaced and I'm confused why people are surprised. Her entire attitude was nasty with a ton of red flags
If you didn't know, back then she was a little less popular also she used a few manipulation tactics as emily stated as love bombing and acting like this extremely fragile and sweet person.
I used to watch her way before this "drama". Honestly i didnt even realise what she was talking about initially, just think its a story time as i use her as background noises. Stopped when she is screaming and getting angry + always bringing up about being homeless when it was a choice for her
@@yuki97kira i watched her videos for a a long time and then i think a month before all of this unfolded i wrote a comment somewhere saying that i loved her videos but she started to sound really aggressive/angry in her videos so i stopped watching her videos as often. then she gets exposed as a stalker lol
@crystalynaurelia300 I saw some her videos, some previos months before the drama began, and I felt scentially same as you: she sound angry and angrier, her tone and language became meanier in ways it's hard to explain. I just didn't enjoy her content anymore...soon I knew why. Lol, I guess your should form opinions by yourserlf, question everything and there Is a doubt, must be a reason. 😏
Weird how people who are not from the art community comment on this. I’m so grateful people can show emily as much support as possible
She deserves the love
@@thejoking.madmen not to speak for OP but the art commentary community is relatively small and typically is pretty insular with the exception of people like creep show who fuck up badly enough to get noticed by bigger creators. So in that regard, it is wild seeing bigger more “mainstream” creators talk about it.
@@thejoking.madmen Art community drama never really gets out into the mainstream because of the community being so small. So it's interesting to see this do exactly that.
@@Chiickiienuggiies well this isn’t “drama”. It’s a literal crime.
@@breannankolb Yes absolutely.
Wake up babe, they released a creppyshow art sequel called "illuminaughti"
Yes, honey 😂😂😂😂😂
Emily's strength highlights Shannon's weakness. Bailey is a must watch.
At least we can all agree on one thing: Ready to Glare is too good for RUclips
I really don’t understand the hype, she’s anti-feminism :/
@@melomania why?
@@melomania how?
@@Addicted2fashion444 She’s made several videos on the subject, mocking feminists or scattering here and there reflexions about it (it’s not needed anymore, they exaggerate, it’s so much more difficult for men, etc.). I had to unsubscribe because I could not bear these kind of remarks…
@@melomania for example? Like I am genuinely curious,I watched a lot of her videos and I never found anything that fits what you are talking about
Something about someone as beautiful as you saying YOU are NOT stupid and YOU are NOT worthless really feels good even if it's in passing.
Girl, this dropped and I literally dropped what I was doing to watch! Your docs are the BOMB. Much love to you and the Bills!
Thank you for being early and welcome to a wild ride!
Hard agree!
Me too. I was watching a documentary and I stopped it to watch this. I was hoping she'd do it cz she does this so well
I feel like Gabbie Hanna and Shannon are a master class in Projection. It's incredible. I'm impressed for all the wrong reasons. 🖤
They’re the same person in different fonts.
diffrent fonts 😭🤧😂@@ofeliasantoshistory
My mother is a narcissist and being able to move away from her and getting a therapist has helped me developed the boundaries I need. She frequently complains to my sister about how I never call...and then she never called me on my birthday which is always great.
My step dad is a narcissist. Congrats on making boundries, I know how hard that is. I ended all contact and I feel sooo free.
My ex’s mom is narcissistic and he has tendencies as well. Im so so glad you disconnected.
My daughter in law is precious to me. She was abused in all ways and had no idea life could be good, as her dad and mom are both -not good people. I won’t go into it since it’s non stop trigger warnings but know you are loved and supported.
@@CreativeCreatorCreates I still am in contact with her. It's very hard to break off completely. Shes disabled and a hoarder which made it even more emotionally difficult growing up around her. I feel guilty a lot still.
My bf is so understanding about it. But it's still messy.
@@LizzieBelina we’ll know you have a person setting the best positive intentions. Thank you for being such a great soul.
Thank you for talking about this. It took me more than 5 years to understand that feeling uneasy around my abuser was my gut instinct telling me to remove myself from any interaction with her. I always felt guilty, like I was being judgemental, even after she SA'd me, I felt SO guilty and ashamed of even speaking out about how awful she was to me, because she behaves all outgoing and nice with a lot of people we mutualy know. I am still afraid to talk about her abusing me, because I'm afraid that I will be shamed or blamed for what she did to me, and I didn't reported it when it happened (we work on the same place, btw). And yeah. This year was the first time I said out loud to me, and to my hubby: I was SA'd by her. I never put a name on what she did to me until a month ago. And it was so healing. You are right when you say that we don't have to feel bad for speaking out. But is so common to victim blame or call them liars when the other party involved seems charming at first sight.
thank you! this is a really insightful and compassionate breakdown of CSA’s bizarre behaviour. i’d never heard the term “digital self-harm” before, but *have* noticed that some Extremely Online People (i.e., professional trolls and outrage merchants who cultivate their own notoriety because it keeps them paid) exhibit what i call “digital Munchausen’s”: a severe persecution complex that isn’t based in reality, accompanied by wildly exaggerated, unsubstantiated claims of victimisation at the hands of nebulous Others (e.g., “Jealous Haters,” et. al.).
your analysis here illuminates so many parallels with toxic behaviours i’ve witnessed by bad actors within my own online community. thanks again for this fresh, nuanced perspective!
I really appreciate how you address SH online in general and the guilt that can occur when your negative view of yourself is different from what others think of you. On a different note, Swoop, I hope you continue to find healing and happiness. Please know that you bring validation and hope to other abuse survivors and people suffering from mental illness.
This. I wanted to give a big thumbs up for the mental health coping skills suggestions. Not many would think about this in terms of Shannon's mental health and be sensitive about it. I'm not excusing what she "allegedly" did but the online SH explanation makes sense. I think that posting negative things about yourself is either a way to get people to "defend" you so you can bask in the praise, or that they would post negative things and would validate the negative feelings you have. I have a bachelor's in psychology and this was fascinating to me, and gave a whole new level of depth to this situation I hadn't considered before. Thank you for this!!
It’s funny how as you’re describing narcissists and their behavior, also sounds a lot like Gabbie Hanna
Yeap!
That's why Gabbie and Shannon were such good friends before
@@OpqHMg I didn’t realize that at all. If I had known, I would have stopped supporting Shannon a LONG time ago
Kinda like Trisha too
@@vulpixies3272 I learned about it through the HelloLeesh debacle! Shannon was trashing her in support of GH
As a kid I was abused in a number of different ways and my parents weren't good people. My birth mother specifically was a narcissistic liar. She taught me how to lie and made me, as a child, believe that I needed to lie. This of course led to me not knowing how to tell the truth or to be authentic with myself or others. When I got away from her as a teenager I personally had no idea how to behave outside of this lie bubble that I created for myself. My perception of reality existed within the lie bubble. It took a lot of personal fighting on my end to get over that and to be able to tell the truth and be an authentic person. It has been years and years but I still struggle with it. It honestly hurts to see people lie themselves into a hole when they've done something wrong because I know from personal experience how letting go of those lies really lifts the world's weight off of your shoulders. It feels so good to grow in to get better even with the struggles I still have and I wish that for others everyday. That being said that doesn't mean that those people also don't make me extremely angry at the same time for being such blatant pieces of shit.
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I couldn't NOT have ya'll in the intro!
Nick and his honey bun in the intro, is the palate cleanser I needed to start this whole ass mess, that is Shannon.
I was a pathological liar for a long long time. Straight up probably most of my life. I would lie consistently about things that didn't need to be lied about. For no gain to myself and it was almost a reflex. As well as lying for my own gain as well and it almost ruined my life.
By no means is it an excuse, but figuring out the reason for why I was this way, for me, is what got me to start working on it.
By no way am I cured. But now catching myself in conversation when I reflexively lie I make a point to backtrack and say the truth. Often to the confusion of the other party. But holding myself accountable is the only way I think to fix it.
I only found out why I was this way after having my son. I was thinking about discipline. like as what my general rules would be when he did something wrong etc.
When thinking back on it, I realized none of the punishments I ever got were fixed rules that "x would happen and I knew Y would happen as a result" often coming down to how the adult was "feeling" that particular day.
Not knowing the consequences of a punishment I believe encouraged me to just lie as a reaction. Fearful of if I admitted to wrong for small things the punishment could be as small as a whoopin or as serious as what would be considered cruel and unusual punishment. Or the adult saying "if you just tell the truth (cuz on top of being a lier for so long you would think I would be good at it. Sadly I'm fuckin horrible at it😅) the punishment would be easier" but truly it never was. There was no incentive to tell the truth so I just never did
Moral of the story, for kids make sure you have fixed rules for punishment. And don't let your personal feelings increase or decrease it, as well as encouraging the truth, as being much more important than whatever wrong any child can do.
I was thinking the LolCow SH was her actually reinforcing the “stalker Amy” story. Maybe she thought it would bolster her claim and invalidate Emily. It sounds like she knew this was coming and was setting up a defense.
Shanon reminds me so much of my ex. After we broke up, we continued to be friends for several years till they stopped talking to me. They then tried crawling back into my life after a year of not speaking with me but something was off. I ignored them, and I’m so glad I did. I found out that they were one of the main orchestrators in my 5+ years of online stalking and harassment, as well as the reason I lost all my friends. It’s scary how someone’s obsession with another person can lead them down this dark a path.
I’m so sorry you had to deal with that! I was also stalked and harassed for over 7 years. It’s incredibly frustrating and isolating especially when you have no way of getting the person to stop. My stalker had a physical disability and it would make others see them as harmless. Even though they were threatening me daily people would still come after me with accusations of “leading” this person on. Once I would show these people the evidence I had of their abusive behavior, they would apologize to me but would never confront my stalker for lying to them. I finally had to contact his mother who for years hated me because of what he was telling her. Luckily for me she believed me after I showed her years of screenshots. I haven’t heard from him in a couple years but I’m always worried when he’s gonna come back. I hope you are doing well and your ex leaves you alone!
@@taylors445 thank you sm! To my knowledge, my ex has left me alone, though I wouldn’t know as I have them blocked lol. I hope you’re healing as well!
Awww, I just adopted 3 kittens, but I want Adora-Bill!! My daughter’s name is Adora and she would lose it!! Congrats to everyone who gets to adopt and much love to the Billing Department 😻🥰
adora is such a beautiful name!
I've been actually avoiding watching anything about this topic for weeks now. I am very grateful to have found your channel (via the Gabby Hannah stuff) so that I could watch someone who could deliver this all in a concise and level headed way. Good luck to you, and your channel (and your kitties), and thank you!
I discovered your channel pretty recently. Hearing you talk about your history with your abuser and how the trauma manifested as fibromyalgia was like listening to someone describing my own history. I got the diagnosis when I was 15. I had started having extreme episodes of pain, what I now recognize as flare ups when I was almost 13. I had always been a sickly kid with hard to explain issues, but puberty was when things went nuts. It took another 10 years before I realized my father was knowingly abusive with no intention to change. He has narcissistic and even sociopathic tendencies when he’s angry enough. In 2017 I hit my limit. A lock was installed on my bedroom door and I set reasonable boundaries and began addressing him as “sir.” He proceeded to systematically violate every boundary I set until I developed a stress induced neuropathy in my legs that took away my ability to walk. Thankfully it was temporary. I was able to move out just before the pandemic hit. I’m immunocompromised so Covid pre vaccination would have probably killed me. Even so, finally having a space that man could not violate ended up making 2020 a much better year for me personally than 2019. Make of that what you will. I just wanted to share all this because you inspire me and I wanted to let you know that you’re not alone. I’m in your corner, and I know I’m not the only one. Keep being awesome. The more awesome is practiced the more people want to practice awesome. Keep showing people how it’s done.
the thing about narcissistic people really hit home for me. i had a falling out with someone who i used to call my best friend and i've been struggling with the way they've been publicly slandering me. it's been going on for MONTHS at this point. every single point that you went over was something that they did and it makes so much sense now. not that i was looking for their reasons behind their actions, but it's nice to be able to kind of piece it together. thank you for this clarity!!
My mom’s a narcissistic liar. I’ll probably be on mood medication and in therapy for life. But I’m in a much better place than I was in the past.
I’m glad you’re in a better place than you were. Stay strong!
I literally started crying when you started speaking to the audience (and from the look of it, reminding yourself as well) that we are good people who deserve good things.
As someone who has rarely felt like I deserve anything good, it hits differently to hear someone tell you that you do.
To Swoop (and anyone else hurting that reads this): You deserve good things, because you’re a good person. You deserve to feel like you’re worth it-because you are. You deserve to feel your own feelings without worry or judgment, and you deserve to set and maintain healthy boundaries without feeling like you’re being “a lot to deal with”.
Past trauma still hurts, but it doesn’t have to continue to define us as we move forward. Most importantly, we deserve the ability to heal and move forward. We deserve to be happy. 💜
Btw 15:02 for people who aren’t familiar with it, “sp*rged” is derogatory to autistic people (short for Asperger syndrome and used as a noun or verb) and I think it might be considered a slur. People who aren’t on the spectrum probably shouldn’t use it.
Yep that’s what it means. I’m diagnosed with it, I say it about myself exclusively, it’s weird for me to see it used negatively so much because when I say it it’s a good thing. I have to remind myself what it means to other people! Lol
I have been diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome and I have never heard that term. I have heard Aspies. But these days, that diagnosis is now referred as High Functioning Autism, which that term is just as harmful as a label.
Whoa thanks for information on this I was confused by that part and assumed it was some sort of normal slang and not a slur. Good grief shannon is a piece of work
I’ve been obsessed with debunking all the drama and terrible shit CreepShow Art has done. Your video was great! I’m loving the docs on all these influencers keep up the good work!
This whole story was so triggering for me. My ex husband's wife spent YEARS actively stalking me in the same fashion. I had a 3 year restraining order against her after her threats. She even created a fake MySpace account pretending to BE me and posted so many lies about me and my kid. She cut my child off from their father and all for what? He walked away from her, too. It's just sad. It was so traumatizing. I'm in a better place now, but, yikes.
32:30 omg thank you for speaking up about this!!! I'm going through the exact same thing with my family, much of whom has abused me in the past, and although I'm away from the bulk of it, if I ever want to go round my dad's to escape my mum and her husband, I still have to deal with my sister who copies all of our mum's worst traits and triggers my panic attacks when she gets bored... then she uses her mental health as an excuse and copies my abuse stories but puts herself in my place which also triggers panic attacks and sleep terrors... we love the human body and brain...not...
We adopted a domestic long hair black kitty and named her Luna! She’s been the best addition to our little family! I hope all the bill’s get adopted! ❤️ 🐈⬛
I love you ~ and ~ the background music is putting me into fight or flight lololol
~ and ~ the quality of this content is 100/10
Omg leeor lmaaoooo i see u in every drama i watch i also love your videos.
Lmaoo Leeor! I love your videos
Can we JUST STOP STANNING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS... pleeeaaaase!!
Yes, 100% yes.
Well I don't think it's wrong for people to want to support other people, that's a very healthy human thing to do. It's silly to blame the victims in a sense for trusting these people and not the people for their behaviour. No we shouldn't idolize people anymore and put them on a pedestal but, hey nothing wrong w staning people. Some people do deserve to get that bread. ✋😩💞
Hope M Stanning people is idolizing and putting them on a pedestal, it's literally the same thing. However, there's a huge difference between supporting people and stanning them.
@@crystalb4178 I mean well yes if we are talking about the original definition of the word. I feel like every word that's cool online seems to get dragged through the ground and lose its meaning so I just assumed by Stan we just mean supporting at this point. 😭
Seriously. It's largely disappointing for the the stans, and a huge amount of pressure on the person being stanned. Just like who you like and always keep in mind that you don't really know them.
Every few years i come back to this controversy and am absolutely mind, boggled at how ridiculous it all was. The most insane part to me is at the very beginning of the controversy before Emily story ever broke, and I replied to a comment, asking Shannon to take accountability for the posts on that website and just replying to that comment lead to Shannon DMing me, in the DM she defended herself, and I was so stunned that I just apologized and moved on. At the time I was a fan of hers not only was a fan I was in high school. And taking two seconds to look at my bio or anything would have given her that information. The fact that she was so quick to DM, a fan, defending her self and borderline Gaslighting the fan is insane to me. As an adult now I would never even think about arguing with a minor
On the Internet about anything. I’m just glad it didn’t snowball into anything else with her.
Damn that’s awful. Im sorry she reached out to you in that way. She knew that her online status/age would put her in a position of power for your conversation. She probably reached out to anyone she could at the time to defend herself in a failed attempt to keep control over her downfall. That doesn’t excuse her behavior at all and it makes it worse that she was trying to guilt trip you as a fan and an underaged fan at that.
That's creepy
Attending class at Petty University is the only time I’m sad when class is dismissed.
Holy fuck. I’ve finally realised why When I was a 14/15 I would post anonymous posts to myself....
Because I was so mentally fucked up from my bullying and it was a way of harming myself without being caught & sent into a psych ward again.
Yikes on bikes for 14/15 year old me.
I've never heard of "yikes on bikes" before, but thank you for introducing me to this phrase lol
I am proud of you for coming to this revelation, but above all for still being with us! You are strong and brave, and the things we do when working through sh*t isn't US. It is how we cope. I hope you learned how to be much kinder to yourself, because you deserve it.
Yikes on bikes.. are you a gworl? 😂
My ♡ aches for all that Emily Artful went through. Nobody deserves what she delt with by an evil woman
Wow! I too developed fibromyalgia after the consistent and constant trauma inflicted by an abusive narcissistic man. I feel for ya
i love how this is not just a general review of the drama, but a deeper analysis of the psychological torment that Emily suffered.
i know a lot of RUclipsrs are sending her well wishes, but Emily should have honestly been the focus of a lot of those videos, not just the lolcow posts.
it's honestly tragic, but I hope that the solid info and advice that you provided in this doc will help those who may have experienced something similar.
love your work dude!
Thank u ❤. Sometimes u need to hear that ur not crazy and making things up. My half sister abused me for years and my parents would play dumb as to why im an alcoholic adult having full meltdowns whenever she was around. Im 2 years sober now, refuse to acknowledge her presence, and told my parents i held them fully accountable, and it helped me move forward.
This one had me right at the intro, especially the clip : " How can you be mean to Ready to Glare? " ...right?! Great video! I liked your in-depth analysis 😎
Edit ; Also, am offended Shannon used " Amy " as her imaginary stalker's name - leave us out of it!! 😤
My besti actually did character assassination to me. From calling me racist slurs to framing me in stealing (while stealing my stuff), and she still portrayed herself as the "sweet innocent good girl" to the point I thought I was going insane because she gas lightedme so much that I started to question reality.
I'd absolutely love to adopt one of the kitties but sadly I'm in the UK. I've wanted a black cat forever and am finally in a place where I can get one so I'm doing my research to adopt atm 😊
aw im happy for u!!
I work part-time at an animal shelter, and they have "black cat Fridays" where they adopt out black cats at a slightly reduced fee because there's still such a stigma around black cats. I bet some of the shelters in your neck of the woods have similar things like that. And congrats on looking to expand your family.
@@maplelump I'm surprised people are actually avoiding adopting black cats, if they cross your path one way isn't it supposed to be lucky? I keep forgetting how prejudicial & illogical people can be.
@@NotAnotherKuromi I honestly don’t fully get it either, I think maybe it has to do with witchcraft and people just being fucking stupid.
31:50 I’m so sorry you are going through this. I also dealt with a pathological liar and bully who years later I am still so traumatized by. I know that you say that you can’t get away from them because they are part of someone’s life who you love, but please prioritize your health as this is so damaging. You shouldn’t have to endure this person abuse to any extent.
what i find most disturbing is that shannon took Emily’s story. This means she knew it was bad, and that the person in Emily’s position was a victim.
Shannon was aware to a high extent
My heart hurts you seeing you describing the abuse you've survived. You are so strong and keep holding on!!! My abuser is my "mother" so I can empathize with the feeling of needing time to get through the situation.
This is so wierd. I'm a trauma survivor and I'm so sensitive to other people due to it. I've always had a calm space with Emily's channel but Creep has always rubbed me wrong and I just got this gut feeling of hatred towards her. I tried to just close it out (you know, artist supporting artist) It has all made sense to me when all of this came up.
The way I broke down at 22:25
Thank you Swoop for being there for all those who struggle with their mental health and sharing your journey as well. We need more people like you. ♥
Thanks, Swoop! 💜💜💜
I listened to a video from "Petty Paige" about a week ago discussing digital self harm. It was super interesting. It was nice to hear your take on it as well.
Oh dope, I'll check it out!
Creepshow Art really did let their creep show... and they made an art of it.
It had crossed my mind that shannon was purposely outing herself with all her self deprecating speech, but because she really felt like the horrible stupid piece of crap she kept calling herself. But it wouldn't surprise me if it was to receive positive affirmations from her followers. Or even to help her depressed followers identify more with her.
i always appreciate the way you speak to your audience during your takeaways, but I especially appreciated this video as I have a similar situation with a narcissistic lying family member in my life. it's a struggle every day to remind myself of the things that you said to us toward the end of this video, especially because they have been heavily involved in my life over the past year. i'm comforted to know that i'm not the only one that goes through this, and i hope it gets easier to live our lives without this cycle of abuse in the future. thank you
I jumped ship from creepshow when the Hopeless Peaches drama was going down. What an absolute monster.
I never understood my freeze response was survival. I beat myself up over it but learned only recently in my 40’s it definitely saved me from escalation and worse harm. I totally relate and believe Emily. Also see Shannon as a victim and a perpetrator.
Yes! Idk why we were all taught that it’s just fight or flight. It’s flock, and then fight, flight, freeze, or fawn. Flocking is what we do to determine whether a situation is dangerous, and then if it’s the first time we’re in a dangerous situation we do one of the four options. From then on whenever we’re in a situation like the first one, we do the same thing we did the first time. The response can be different depending on the situation and which option we chose the first time. That response is then etched into the brain forevermore.
Swoop seeing you get emotional just breaks my heart. Sending you all yhe good vibes and hoping this situation has gotten better for you
When it comes to self-harm internal monologues that can lead to digital self-harm, a mental health professional said something that punched me in the gut: Every time you "say" something terrible to yourself internally, ask yourself, "would you say that to a small child?" I later saw this same message on various body positive tiktoks. My now former (she retired and is still awesome) therapist, encouraged me to implement this and discussing at our weekly sessions. It is making an enormous difference. Thank you @SWOOP thank you for being so thorough and validating in how you covered this entire messed up situation.
The fact that she had all of us fooled..I can't believe I used to like her. And felt a tiny bit bad when she was talking about being stalked. There's no coming back from this
Speak for yourself lmao. I could see through her bullshit a looong time ago b
@@mintvelvet3351 same. Anyone can be who they want online. However, life experience allows us to see through the bs. I’m just disappointed not as many people observed this.
Took over a decade to realize I had PTSD (after finally getting out of my decade deep depression) from an ex friend who have done everything in their mind to talk down on me, my depression, autism, always had to be higher than me (forcing me to leave an afternoon class I had loved to be social, annoying people to block me on places), manipulating people, acting as a victim while not take responsibility (while I had for years tried to apologize and taken responsibility (had undiagnosed autism when it happened, and after I was in same school I chose to try and fix things))... it changes everything around one, so watching Emily I got teary as she explained it so well
With abusive people I always find that distancing yourself is the best. Once you’re gone they will find someone else to terrorize and slowly everyone will see through their BS.
Wow I was in the exact situation of being in constant contact with your abuser because they are in someone you loves life. Unfortunately my abuser was my brother and I couldn’t take the prison like you described anymore, and now it’s been almost 5 years since I saw my nieces. With him in and out of my life, it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to me and I hope no one has to go thru this :(
I'm so sorry you have to endure that, there are truly no words to do justice how wrong that is
Hopefully your nieces will be able to seek out contact with you once they're more independent, it's a tough call but it's amazing and brave of you to centre your own well being.
rewatching this after a while. it's crazy how I remember when all of this was unfolding on emily's channel. I had been a long time fan of her videos when this was going on. I couldn't believe what was happening and felt so bad for her and was constantly hoping she was okay.
you mentioned Bailey Sarian when talking about giving influencers platforms that are not deserving of them, did she do something?
I think it’s a reference, Bailey always says “have better idols”
Yeah, I wanna know too! I love Bailey, what happened?
@@lillymoon2086 okay thank you! I was about to be very upset 😭
@@alw_9911now THAT would be truly disappointing! No no, our Bailey is cool 😎
Swoop has been wearing bailys jewelry.she was quoting bail. But she did say it kinda funny even I was like what did she just say and went ten seconds back and was like oh ok just quoting her thank god haha
Yeah, I just got into all of this, and the lengths that creepshow person would go to, and her boyfriend/husband, was insane. Completely insane. People say "attractive people have it easier because of their looks", but this whole situation proves that things aren't so easy for those that are considered attractive. I'm glad I am ugly AF, so I don't have to worry about anything like this. Just insanity.
This is one of the best videos on the topic so far. I was somewhat confused because there’s just so much sh-t she’s done but you covered everything, including the sensitive topics, extremely well. You just earned a new sub!
I came back to watch these docs and I’m very glad I did.
I have a boss who I already knew was a liar and a manipulator, but it really clicked in my head that they are a narcissist. They once told me they also had ADHD when I told them it’s why I struggle with time, and it IMMEDIATELY set off red flags something was wrong with this person. After working with them longer, and hearing and seeing everything else around them and my coworkers, I’m pretty comfortable making that guess.
Seeing them in that frame will really help me and how I can control my interactions with them. My new mantra “narcissist liar” will play every time they open their mouth to try to manipulate me
YES YES YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED!!!! this whole situation is so confusing to me and your videos are always so good
10:58 I recently commented quite a personal thing about my having a hard time getting angry at people. Someone replied saying what I described sounded like what's called a "fawn" reaction, which is (along with freezing) an alternative to fight or flight. It absolutely makes sense, and I even know where I learned to do it. My mother has...issues, and nothing helps when she decides it's time for everyone to be shouted at. The only thing a child can do is to be as nice as possible. I don't usually get angry, because when I'm faced with mistreatment, I try and people please my way towards being treated better. This, you may be surprised, is not usually an effective strategy in the long term.
This is that too. You know getting angry back won't help, running won't help, zoning out won't help, so you learn to try and calm the abuser down by giving in. I can totally imagine that reaction, because I've lived through that too, and I may never unlearn it. I'm doing pretty well though. Not perfect, but well. Even today I stood up against my raging older brother in defence of my younger one. I'm proud of that, actually.
as a fellow fawn-er, proud of you for improving. it’s tough out here 🫠
@@haruuuuu1115 thanks. I appreciate that. Good luck in the trenches as well. Your wants and needs are valid too.
@@coconutcore thank you!! all of it helps ☺️
I hope SWOOP makes a doc on the Spears family.
I was cyberstalked from the age of 16 to around 21. I could no longer enjoy being on my phone because any notification made me physically ill, sometimes to the point of throwing up. Even after making all of my accounts private they would still try to make contact and content to belittle me and they even began involving people in my life at one point. I still have to fear that they are online and waiting to see if they find one of my accounts. We discovered that they were someone who used to be close to my family (a grown adult woman). And that made me even more fearful that it could escalate to something physical and not just online. It genuinely becomes a terrifying existence.
Emily We Believe you and We Stand With you and all the other Victims ❤️🧡💛💚💜💙
Your section on your current situation really, really hit me hard. I've been living next door to my ass@ulter for almost 20 years and the sense of inescapability has always been so damn strong. I feel in my bones the struggle you've faced and as you said, wouldn't wish that on anyone in this world. You're magnificently strong and so amazing for being able to find your power in the midst of all that and begin to set safe boundaries like you deserve as the very least 💜 it's an inspiration and gives me hope for my own situation too
May I make a book suggestion to anyone dealing with an abuser.
"The highly sensitive person's guide to dealing with toxic people" by Shahida Arabi
You aren't alone and you are valid