I've wanted one for YEARS! The Cornopean!
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Thank you for actually showing the pistons and how the air was routed. Ever since I first saw (an image) of a horn with stötzel valves I've been wondering how they actually work.
This made me so happy when you pronounced Stölzel perfectly!
A lot of people just disregard the umlaut.
Very neat! As an organist, I've known about the "Cornopean" organ stop for many years, but I didn't know there was ever an actual brass instrument by that name! I suppose, then, that organbuilders started using the term "Cornopean" for a relatively mellow-toned trumpet stop instead of the term "Cornet," since, as you may know, the term "Cornet" in organ registration has a completely different meaning (and pronunciation) from what one might expect.
Yes, I'm familiar with the french cornet (Cor-nay). There are actual reed stops on some organs named cornet (as in the brass instrument). I think there are some organs with "orchestral cornet" as a reed stop, a misnomer as the cornet isn't really an orchestral instrument.
Historically, the "cornet" in the organ was named for the cornetto, AKA Zink, that wooden, fingerholed instrument with a cupped mouthpiece.
@@timothytikker3834 Yes - I have one at home.
Yeah, generally the term "orchestral" in organ stop usually refers to an imitative rank, I think. (This is especially important in Theatre Organs, where turning on a stop labeled "English horn", will probably give out a sound that sounds like a whole section of brass players playing forte.)
I believe that the cornopean stop on the organ is a flue stop that is voiced to resemble a reed. I may be wrong but that is what I have heard. For non-organists, the cornet is usually a combination of 3 or more pipes that use pipes tuned to harmonics other than the octave to create a reed-like sound. Sometimes this is one stop and other times the organist can create the sound by combining stops.
Dear Brother Trent,
Thank you for sharing your love and dedication to the history all instruments made of brass. You are a veritable fount of almost totally useless brass history. But in our niche world you have become the Living Wikepedia of all things brass. That is why you have one million subscribers! I wonder what is the statistical bell curve distribution of the ages of your commentators. As for me I turned 75 on February 6, 2023.
In my entire life I have never once sold a musical instrument. I've spent over six decades looking for quality used/vintage instruments. I also would buy them because I wanted to play or learn to play them. Until I was ironically prematurely retired against my will back in 2019 I had an excellent job and was given the Luxury of being able to purchase almost any instrument I wanted.
I am not a little bit weird in that I regard myself as the Trustee of any given instrument that I've ever known/owned. With and by the grace of The LORD our GOD, I would gift the lower quality (and as a musician and collector and repairer of instruments my “lower quality instruments” were/are not junk or defective. They make excellent gifts to new students who might not otherwise have the money to buy their own instruments and instead are spending/wasting their money on ongoing rentals. As I myself came from a rather poor family I know what it is like to be trying to learn an instrument on a damaged defective leaking instrument. (especially the reed or worse yet the double reed instruments.)
Now I will tell you a very pretty brass musical instrument story. My very best friend was a guy named Dominick who I met in a Church congregation as a marriage counselor. He born was exactly He was born in Calabria, South Italy from the same area as my father’s people. He being likewise both in 1920 was exactly the she if my by then late father. Dominick was then raised in Argentina at the age of four where he lived with his father until he was 17 years old. Then his Dad brought him to America where he was promptly drafted into the the US Army in 1941 and was dispatched as the company Bugeler to North Aftica early in the War. When not doing his Bugle calls he was a profession level Trumpet man who along with other musicians in his company played for the men when able to jam when not hunting down or running away from Rommel’s Panzers in North Africa. The men and officers kept him alive as he was too valuable for the moral of the troops to be dispatched by Field Marshall Rommel. Contrary to his wishes Dominick was not allowed to go out combat patrols. As such he actually saved more than a dozen lives, but that is another story!
Being a trumpet player saved his life; and also the.lives of two dozen deserting Italian troops Dominick “captured”.
I met Dominick in 1990 when he was 70 years old. And he was my best friend for the next 18 or so years before he died. He would go into this basement to practice the trumpet for hours on end. He rested his chops by playing the guitar while composing Praise & Worship music. He was a working class bloke who could not afford a really good trumpet on his limited retirement income. So I gifted the Bach Stradivarius Trumplet that bought used which was in near mint condition. That gift brought him to tears. He spent the next decade playing on that Bach Strad. No action of mine had ever made me happier!
I lost my Dad to a horribly aggressive biliary tract cancer (Klatskin’s) cancer) that I diagnosed in 1981, at age 61 and within seven months he went from 185 pounds at his peak (he was only 61 years old at the time. He was only 5’8” tall) down to only 67 pounds when he died. Being short and slim he had the misfortune of being trained as a B17, B-24 ball turret runner. [Not a good career move.] See the poetic narrative of the poem on RUclips entitled “The Death of The Ball Turret gunner, as wonderfully read by the author Randall Jarell, who himself was a ball turret gunner) my Dad was Whitey Ford’s practice baseball catcher in the 1950’s. I got my love for music from him.
One more pretty brass story. In 2003 my family were visiting the historic battlegrounds of Gettysburg where in 1863 some hundreds of thousands of Yankee and Condederate troops (all brothers) butchered each other to the demon god of war in the most important battle of the American Civil War. I was totally unaware that this was a major once-in-a-lifetime commemorative event of that horrible battle almost 150 years later! I still hear the sweet music of that property uniformed brass band playing original period instruments coming from the new Museum Center. There were perhaps sixty or more uniformed musicians representing both sides of the war all playing ORIGINAL BRASS INSTRUMENTS from the time period of 1863! They played for an hour and a half. I was very familiar with their repertoire! That sound can not otherwise be reproduced as they were playing on instruments that were 140 or 150 years old! And they were pitched higher than our present concert pitch. I was literally able to walk up to within five feet of all of the performers. It was like being in heaven.
I myself am a bit of a American Civil War historical reactor and a history and a brass band music buff and I was intimately familiar with each and every song they played as we in the audience anonymously joined in a rousing chorus. It was as if I had died and went to Heaven! And all of this happened by “coincidence”! [Not!]
Trent, I did not know you then but I wish you could have been there!
GOD willing I will be allowed to likewise donate my treasure trove of musical instruments gratis rather than having to one day need to sell them to survive.
Our nation (the USA) is going from within as if we had a cancer within our bowels.
May any other commentator or your Brother Trent pray that the LORD will allow me to gift my treasures rather than having to sell them off to survive.
Thank you, Trent.
And may the LORD BLESS and keep you!
Thank you for taking the time to write to me, it is most appreciated and is always interesting to hear from other people around the world. Many thanks again :)
Im only a young musician but having a treasure trove of instruments and stories too sounds like a dream!
I like how it looks, it reminds me more of the classical Posthorn than a regular Cornet. And the Deutschlandlied, which you played in the end, is usually played in Eb, or F on a Bb instrument, although Haydn composed the melody in G.
I remember as a wee one watching your videos and falling in love with brass and music, now I see that my musical journey has just started even with 7 years experience and I see through videos like this that there’s always more to learn.
And on another note I’ve been able to see you change for what seems like the complete better, you sound happier now and I wish the best for you. Thank you!
That sounded far better than I was expecting! All down to the player of course.
The tone you got on that thing was incredible! You might be interested in visiting NYC at some point to see the musical instrument exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They have some instruments with this type of valve and other early valve designs that you don't see anymore.
What a cool and unique instrument. That was very informative and fascinating. Sounds nice too.
Never heard of tubular valves. Very fascinating!
Very clear explanation of the Stölzel valve system, I have always been curious how they actually work. As of yesterday I am also the proud owner of a Cornopean :) but I couldn't wait to see how the valves work so I watched your video before it got to me.
Mine does sound a bit mellower though, but maybe that's just me and I haven't tried it yet in a bigger room.
Not a bad sound for an ugly old thing. The wall of many things is becoming a substantial collection.
Interesting instrument as always, with good explanation. This channel deserves more attention. Keep up the good work 👍
I love it . I think it has a beautiful sound
So cool! Loved the sound!
That's a really sweet sound!!! I really really like it.
Hey guys, due to reasons best left unsaid, I haven’t played my instrument, French horn, for around 10 years or so. I had recently decided to started practising again, only to realise the embouchure I had built up over the years had completely disappeared. Does anybody know good embouchure strengthening exercises?
Long tones and lip slurs are my recommendation
Long tones in the low to mid register, lip slurs, breath attacks, and scales are my recommendation. Those were all things my private instructors told me when I had to take time off the horn due to embouchure collapse.
Thanks a lot!!! I've always wanted those explained and shown to me!
What is that flugelhorn looking instrument is in the very bottom right corner? Do you have a video on that?
It's a flugelhorn style bugle in G
@@TrentHamilton I would love to see a video on that thing, being a flugelist myself I find it so fascinating! 😁
Nice, rare to find one let alone hear one.
Interesting instrument. I didn’t know they could machine valves that precisely in 1818.
Some of the machining on steam engines done in the 1800s has modern day machinists absolutely baffled. There was some unbelievably good machining happening during the industrial revolution, some of which has been near impossible to replicate using modern equipment.
This example wasn't made in 1818. But it was possible to lap valves with pretty tight tolerances. Valves were honed specifically for the valve casings they were intended for.
interesting timbre! probably not a loud instrument. I suspect the valve design was just expedient for making it haha
That sounds really nice
Now i want one too
Can you do a review of the MackBrass brass instruments? It’s a company based in Virginia in the States.
It's very cute
I still want to compare Allen valves to modern rotors
Is that its original mouthpiece?
No. Didn't have one, sadly
@@TrentHamilton what kind of mp are you using?
Die Habsburger Hymne, lol..
Cornucopia
I would think that as the valves wear it would leak a lot. Do you notice that at all when playing, or is it reasonably tight despite its age?
What key is it in?
Bb
Sadly the one I got needs alot of work :( but I have one!
Did you buy it, or just review it on loan?
Yes
Playing at 4:35
Cool!
Where do you find your horns
Mostly on the wall behind me
German national anthem lol
Austrian national anthem actually. That is, Austria, not Australia
@@apolloskyfacer5842 The tune at the end used to be the old AUSTRIAN (imperial) hymn. We kind of mislaid it ... and the Germans picked it up. One of a series of bad mistakes we made during this period ... 😞
Really poor intonation on that thing.