Moby Dick - 3 Comic Masters, 3 Adaptations - Sienkiewicz, Eisner, Niño
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That bit in the beginning about Eisner was hilarious. I think Christophe Chaboute's 2017 adaptation is really good too. But what would actually be amazing is to see someone do an adaptation of "Blood Meridian."
You guys should check out the book by artist Matt Kish. I think it’s called Moby Dick in Pictures. He drew an illustration for every single page of Moby Dick. It’s pretty rad.
When I was a kid and didn't know any bette, I considered Moby Dick to be the equivalent of any of the movie monsters- Frankenstein, Dracula, Godzilla, Moby Dick.. all in the same group.
The Nino is yet another reprint of the tiny Vincent Fago editions. This was originally printed tiny--that's why the large panels. It's about legibility not layout.(and Nino had nothing to do with the color at any stage)
The Nino and the Sienkiewicz have always been faves of mine--the Nino was my first experience of Melville at all.
I really appreciate how you two take the viewer into a more in depth look at comic art and their creator's. I find both of your projects mind opening and fresh. Thanks
The reason for the four panel pages and the typesetting on the Nino book is that it was reprinted from the smaller-sized (about 5" x 8") series put out by Pendulum Press, an education-oriented outfit that used a lot of Filipino talent. Check out the first page, where it says "a Vincent Fago Production". Fago was the Pendulum series editor and he goes all the way back to the beginnings of Timely Comics. Marvel also produced some new adaptations, with more conventional lettering and layout. Lots of material by Doug Moench, I believe.
I really enjoyed "Marvel Classics Comics" once Marvel actually started to produce the artwork themselves. The first 12 or so issues are not that good because they were actually produced by Pendulum Press.Fortunately the best stories in the series, "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" were produced by Marvel.
Yeah, when I was in high school in the late '70s, one of my English teachers had a bunch of Pendulum Press books for in-class use. I was like, "hey, it's Alex Nino and Nestor Redondo! Comics!" Wonderful stuff.
I always liked the wacked out, 1962 Czechoslovakian, Tom and Jerry version "Dicky Moe"!
I just picked up a French version of Sienkiewicz's Moby Dick. Pretty sure his Queequeg is based on Abe Vigoda.
But this volume is peak Sienkiewicz - even more than Elektra Assassin. Just brilliant, really
When I was a little guy I remember seeing the rendering of the Space Whales in Abraxas and the Earthman (another Moby Dick adaptation) and those Rick Veitch visuals were burned into my little brain forever.
Showing love from Moby Dick’s home of New Bedford, MA.
Can’t wait for you guys discussing Andreas’s “Rork”🤩
The Marvel Classics are sorely overlooked. Really well done adaptations and fantastic art. A lot of the Philippine artists like Nino, Redondo, Cruz, Alcala, etc. Really different approaches to the comics compared to their US contemporaries.
AMAZING video, gentlemen, really above your already high average.
I had never seen this Niño comic before, it is truly remarkable!
And of course this Sienkiewicz adaptation, it's just masterful. I wish he had made more books in this magazine illustration style. His Jimi Hendrix book also comes to mind.
Jim mentioned Wash Tubbs, I'd throw the Mickey Mouse whaling storyline from 1938 into the mix, too. Not as brutal of course, but still pretty hardcore. Gottfredson captured the fight against the elements really well (Barks took notice at the time, I'm sure, and brought this stuff into his longer adventure stories later). He went wild with Duotone effects, too. Years before But Sawyer, maybe even Roy Crane learned a thing or two from this...
...we tend to forget Gottfredson's inkers, maybe the Duotone credit belongs more to them? Who knows. Props to Ted Thwaites and Bill Wright in any case...
Also, Monstro the whale from the Disney 1940 animated Pinocchio probably helped establish the general look/behavior of malevolent whales in later creative works.
Great video as always and as it happens quite coincidental for me because I'm currently reading another version of Moby Dick by French comics creator Chabouté. It's awesome and he's maybe my favourite cartoonist working at the moment when he only uses black and white. Take a look at his stuff, I think you'd get a kick out of it.
It's on page 2!
Though I do give all of them major props for condensing "Moby Dick" into a comic book.
When it comes time for the sequel to this video: Olivier Jouvray and Pierre Alary also did one in France!
Finally! You guys bring in the great Nino. Need some more of that
The color of the Sienkiewcz page at the 24:16 mark is Bill channeling Bernie Fuchs. Fuchs is definitely an Sienkiewicz influence
Who else saw the "call me Ishmael" panel they missed?
Actually the Right Whale was called that bacause it was the 'right whale to kill'. But the oil from the Sperm Whale was best, and the spermacetti from the head was pressed which resulted in wax and oil. The wax made the best candles-'candlepower' is equal to the light from one spermacetti candle. The oil was the best lubricating oil available.
I don’t envy your day of research, Ed. I remember growing up and groaning every time I had to go to a live reading, watch one of the movies, read the book in class. It is printed on my brain. But because of this, I stayed clear away from the comic books. So it’s really cool seeing the comics for the first time!
Moby Dick is a bomb story. I’d love a more fleshed out comic adaption.
This is great. If you're going to read the novel, I highly recommend the Modern Library hardcover edition. It's got a friendly, larger typeset that's much less intimidating, and some gorgeous illustrations from Rockwell Kent.
Christophe Chaboute’s adaptation is worth checking out, as well. Superb black and white artwork.
I think kayfabe effect may go into effect for that Bill Sienkiewicz Moby Dick!
What a great look at the different adaptations. After reading the book I found that I have little desire to revisit this material. I could probably describe alot of this world in detail from memory. That being said I have nothing but respect for the books that are highlighted here. Thanks for sharing.
JIM RUGG, there WAS A Hanna Barbera Moby Dick cartoon done by Alex Toth. It was backed up by the Mighty Mightor. Also a comic (Dell Hanna Barbera Super TV Heroes)
All interesting adaptations, specially the Sienkiewicz one. Another worth reading is the more recent Chabouté black and white adaptation. Check it out!!!
Love how you give professional advice while using phrases like "this ain't shit" 😂.
Wish I'd had a graphic adaptation when I had to plow through this in college, all the whaling sections were tedious.
Eisner not using “call me Ishmael” is the most Eisner thing ever Eisnered.
Its on page 2 panel 5 haha I was pointing at it on the screen as if they could hear me haha
Regarding the discussion that starts up around 7:00 concerning the visual appearance of Captain Ahab and the film starring Gregory Peck -- that film was released in 1956, and there was at least one other comic book adaptation of Moby Dick that predates it, that being Feature Presentations #6 from 1950, which y'all can access free of charge at the Comic Book Plus website. The cover's by Wally Wood, interior art by others. (Search the site for "Feature Presentations," not "Moby Dick.")
Great frickin video 👍
I clicked on this video because I saw Will Eisner, but honestly his is sort of underwhelmingly conventional compared to the other two. Very fascinating video!
Didn't Hanna-Barbera do a Moby Dick cartoon based off of Toth's work Like Mightor? I remember seeing it as a kid. At least I think I did :)
You definitely did. He shared a show with Mighty Mightor and made a couple of comic book appearances in Gold Keys "Hanna-Barbera Super TV Heroes"
Gotta check out the whaling museum in New Bedford, MA.
I wonder if Sienkiewicz is consciously referencing Jaws on that first page.
Great art, great episode…
Great episode!
I love Alex Nino's artwork
Moby Dick: A Pop-up Book by Sam Ita is my favorite comic adaption, but ive always been a sucker for gimmicks
I saw that Mobi Dick animation show!
Sperm whales don't have teeth in their upper jaws.
"Ishmael ain't shit" haha
I wanna looks at Bill’s version, but I actually wanna read Will’s.
Great video. More Alex Nino, please! :)
I’d choose the Alex Nino as the best-looking and closest adaptation.
Call me Ishmael is definitely on page 2 of the Will Eisner book. Bottom left panel