What the heck can we eat? Everything is toxic and dangerous. Bread, sugar, veggies, nuts, processed, unprocessed, cooked, raw, geez every food has a video about toxicity. How is my mom living alone at age 94?
I have oxalate poisoning from my superfood smoothies, Dr Ken Berry has a 90 day BBB & E to get us through 90 days of carnivore. I have been eating carnivore for 10 months now, still dumping oxalates without pain. I have blood spots and white spots on my arms, some brain fog, but have my balance back and feel stronger every day.
For those of us who have messed up guts oxalates can pass through the intestines more easily…. There in lies the problem. Couple that with all the toxins in the environment and in our foods and acquired histamine and salicylate intolerance from oxalate overload and bam. You have to look at the soil of someone’s body.
Great video! I used to eat a "healthy diet" also (for 10 years or more), bowls of beans, lentils, loved raw onions, almonds, peanuts, dark chocolate, spinach and would often not drink enough water because I have an enlarged prostate and didn't want to be going to pee every half hour. Unfortunately, I developed kidney stones and found that most of my diet was oxalates!! Now I cut out all of these and am learning to eat what is better for me. Lemon water, apple cider vinegar and drinking much more water, have truly helped me avoid forming more kidney stones.
I had the same problem. I now eat lean meats, fish and white rice, and sometimes berry smoothies. All my health problems went away. I still eat Vegetables but rarely. Maybe once a month.
My sister has sever osteoporosis . She ate bags of spinach. I started to eat lotts of nutts not knowing . I use to do some of oxalate foods seasonally and very little . Then started to work for so called health food industry . ate kale , spinach , then Barrie's for now you could have them all the time . Been slowly getting worse and worse . Started taking magnesium citrate , calcium citrate , potassium citrate started to notice it helped . Then biotin , taurine , butterate . Just watch Eliot's vid on nutrition . I took a expensive test and it showed I was low on all these nutrients . Thank you Eliot .
I used to drink green smoothies almost on a daily basis. I was a very strong fan of them and recommended them to all my friends and family. At that time, I always had a burning feeling while urinating. I've never paid much attention to it though and thought it was normal. I heard about oxalate then. I didn't believe the negatives of them for a while. Coincidently, I stopped drinking green smoothies for a while because of being very busy with my day. I stopped perhaps for three months. Then I started drinking them again. Few days later I got thr burning sensation again after it stopped for weeks. At that moment I had no doubts about this topic. Btw, I used to put lots of parsely in my smoothies. Parsely turned out to be extremely high in oxalate
We are supposed to have an intestinal bacteria called “oxylobacter formigenes”. It helps digest oxalates. I am guessing many of us no longer have that bacteria anymore because of antibiotics or GMO’s. It’s hard to get it as a supplement because it is anaerobic.
Did you have the oxalate dumping problem? I think I have that. I’ve had diarrhea since I began Carnivore. Do you know if it causes fairly severe pain in arthritic joints? My right knee was a lot worse than my left, until a few days ago when my left knee became so inflamed I could hardly stand on it.
@@suew4609 Are you eating eggs? dairy? supplements? artificial sweeteners? seasonings? These can all flair joint pain. Might try lion diet for awhile and see if it helps.
How can that much meat or any food be good for you. Carnivore could only work if you get your own animals and pasture raise them. Do not use all the vaccines, hormones, and torture that most animals take. There's a reason they torture them, and why I don't eat meat. Meat today is poison like everything else. It could also give you bad karma. These carnivore comments are bots. No one is doing this. Or they got the same results this other person stated. Everything in moderation, even moderation.
Thinking of going full on carnivore / keto. I’ve suffered inflammation all over my body for a longgg time , assuming it was gluten flares , I never thought it could be the “healthy” food I was eating . After coming across the definition of Oxalates , I paused and was in complete shock ..MY ENTIRE DIET was oxalate heavy . Chocolate, sweet potatoes , almonds , green smoothies , potatoe chips with avocado , cassava to sub for wheat , it wasn’t until a couple of days ago I literally couldn’t breathe and my body was feeling sooooooo horrible like I was run over by three buses that I said “nah, this isn’t normal” and suddenly ran into Oxalates . I’m now removing all possible Oxalates from my diet to see if my inflammation goes away. Wow is all I can say. And to try to stop the inflammation I would buy turmeric lattes 🥲 didn’t know TURMERIC was an oxalate load . WOW . I am so sorry body 😢 no more
I had a similar experience. The healthy "anti oxidant" and "anti inflammatory" foods I was consuming were poisoning me. I'm glad I caught it before I got any more damage than I already incurred.
It definitely affected me. I had unbelievable brain fog and no energy. I loved eating salads. Huge salads. Everyday. Thought I thought I had all sorts of different things. Just 2 days without salads I felt so much better.
Yep. I've been on a carnivore and now lion diet. My interstitial cystitis improved straight away. I was vegetarian then vegan with lots of oxilates in my diet. I wish I'd known sooner than 7 years sick.
I went to a urologist because of interstitial cystitis & they never suggested removing oxalates from my diet. Sometimes I think doctors are criminals, not curing you so they can continue to make $$$
i’ve been to hell and back so it’s really great to read your comment. i came very close to not making it. question if you don’t mind…..when you went carnivore, did you experience any oxalate dumping, any temporary side effects of suddenly stopping the oxalates like Elliot talks about or did you just start feeling better? what were the worst symptoms you had if you don’t mind sharing?
@@ginoasci urinary urgency and pain on bladder filling. Painful pelvic spasms worse with sitting too long. Sometimes constant pain relieved sometimes by lying down. Also had IBS symptoms which made bladder pain worse. Started carnivore last July and I had no pain for a whole 4 months. During that time I had a lot of crystals in my urine. The pain returned a little at 5 months and sporadically since. It's hard to gauge if it's dumping or a reaction to adding other foods occasionally. Still confused.
My symptom of oxalate overload was a kidney stone, one of the most painful things I have ever been through! This was several years ago, when I first went keto and was eating numerous foods that were high in oxalates, when I didn't even know what oxalates were at the time. I discovered this only after I got the kidney stone and started researching causes.
I am truly sorry for this horrendous experience! I am currently going through this! Would you recommend any foods to help? I am too scared to eat anything and the doctors are useless
@@Just.Call.Me.A_OK. Right now I am trying to shift to the carnivore diet, at least for the next 3 months, until right before Christmas, when I might loosen up a little bit for a short time.
I'm in my second bout of a carnivore diet . Both times at three months in I started getting severe joint pain. I have taken high amounts of vitamin C for several decades and eaten plenty of other high oxylate foods. Both times I had diarrhea all throughout the diet. This time around I found videos on Oxylate dumping. I'm about 4 months in now and I've been having extreme foot , ankle and tendon pain. So bad that I could barely walk.I also have had skin rashes and constant diarrhea .After watching oxylate dumping videos, I've upped my minerals, added lemon juice. Today I had a cup of tea and my pain decreased immensely in 20 minutes. That is the confirmation for me that I am oxylate dumping.
I know first hand how too much oxalate feels like. It feels needless sticking in the face....all over the face: lips, cheeks, eye lids, itchy hands, itchy burning eyes and ear pain. Lower back pain, joint pain and tingling foot pain. I clearly remember, every time I ate too many blackberries, strawberries, almonds, spinach, sweet potatoes, regular potatoes and just about every food on the oxalate list...I felt the pain. It's challenging to avoid it because I like so many foods on the oxalate list. I'm now changing the way I eat. Eventhough it's challenging, it's just not worth the risks anymore.
Hmmm, I suddenly have lower back pain, too. I started the carnivore diet three months ago and I think I have the oxalate dumping problem. It started with diarrhea. I have arthritis in my knees and suddenly my “good” knee became inflamed and it hurts like hell to bend it, or walk. Have you had this experience? This was the knee that I was using to climb stairs and now I can’t do it with either knee. I hope it doesn’t last too long! My arthritic hands are hurting, too, but not as bad as the knee. I wonder what else is in store for me.
I have been vegan for 6 years but I was craving fats so much so land up eating tea spoon or two of coconut oil. This in so many ways protected me from oxylates. However, now eating animals products and not eating any of the 'super healthy' fruits and vegetables I must say I feel amazing...
@@NavanirunzMainly because it’s good for you! We need animal proteins to be our healthiest. Vegans are finding this out, one by one, as they have more energy and feel better eating some animal protein.
This makes so much sense. I spent my 4th birthday in the hospital with Nephritis. And have had problems with pain such as Fibromyalgia and Kidney stones for years. Had a high sed rate for years and not one Dr. could figure out why.
Excellent explanation. Thank you Elliot for educating us. We can be well nourished without oxalates. Beware and avoid so called "superfoods" which can actually be "super risky".
I got arthritis and bad skin and constipation eating spinach and other greens and grains and nuts. Made me unwell for years . Thank you for good advice. I'm keto / carnivore mostly now and restoring my heath gradually x
I'm also keto-carnivore now in a bid to clear the underlying systemic inflammation of my auto immune disorder of Alopecia Areata. Apart from the fat melting off my body I feel really good and my eyebrow hairs are coming back and my scalp is rough with the teensiest little fair hairs. I still look like Charlie Brown without a wig on but if I hold a bright light behind my head I can see those teensy teensy fair hairs. After years of doctors telling me just to accept my condition I'm like no - I now have answers and understanding of what underlies the condition. And my joints no longer hurt, especially my feet and hands and lower back and knees.
@@leazy1618That’s fantastic!I have several autoimmune diseases that I hope will be gone after a while on Carnivore. I believe I’m having Oxalate dumping though, so I was slowing down a bit, going more gradually. Now I’m having severe pain in my left knee, and wondering if this could also be dumping. Do you happen to know? I have arthritis in my knees, but my left one was my better one, until recently.
Definitely a real problem and one under-diagnosed, very sneaky. Raw greens are really risky for this, despite hype about health and green smoothies. For me it is a problem if I have too much. I have learnt to recognise the symptoms I get (they vary between people depending which part of the body they cause issues). I use this to to check and then remove or lessen intake. It accumulates from different things. Vitamin C has oxalates. Anything I suspect I do a check by eating some on an empty stomach and when I am feeling fine. If I get the symptoms I know. It doesn't mean you stop these things always. Oxalates are very common, but lots of foods have low levels and they are ok. I take Vit C but have lowered my large amounts. I cannot eat silver beet, beet greens, spinach etc they are too high in oxalates. I am now in senior years and I notice more sensitivity. I think it is because of the long term damage and sensitivity. This can really implicate your health so best be aware of it. Some posters here tell of how it harmed until they changed dietary habits. Thanks for video.
I learned I had oxalate toxicity very recently. I tried to return something to a dept store and was told they couldn't take it back because of all the tiny white dots all over it. I eventually found out the dots were oxalate crystals. When you wear a black shirt , take it off after several hours to see if if it's covered with tiny white crystals.
chrislastname, thanks for the tip. I wore a black skirt to church today, I checked it and no white spots. I will write this down so I'll remember, as I'm getting so much new information.
Look into carnivore diet. Meat & animal fat is high nutrition and healing. It’s our ancestoral diet before this modern age of fake fruit, veggies & grains that are slowly killing us.
12 years ago, I was snacking on almonds daily, and eating “healthy,” meaning lots of spinach and greens. I had an active job. Odd formations began growing in my knees. They would break off, and I had to have them surgically removed. Some were the size of marbles. I also had strange urinary incontinence-like symptoms- a watery discharge with a strange odor (TMI, sorry). I noticed that it went away whenever I stopped eating almonds. I still have that whenever I eat nuts or chocolate (way too often). I thought it was an arginine/lysine imbalance, and I take lysine for it. Now I’m wondering if it’s oxalates. Perhaps most importantly, I had a HS C-Reactive Protein test, and my result was literally off the chart- over 10! I’m having chest tightness and I had an abnormal stress test. This is in spite of the fact that I’ve never smoked, I don’t drink, my blood pressure is normal, and blood sugar and cholesterol are only slightly elevated. My shoulder blades have recently become painful, and when I roll my shoulders, they sound “crunchy.” I’m definitely going to try a low oxalate diet ASAP!
@@tulipohare12 I try to remove oxalates, mucoid plaque but I wonder about parasites protozoa, Roger Wyburn Mason claim arthritis patients are infected by protozoa. He helped thousands of them . Frank Limpan put Seamus Mullen on keto diet but also he used anti microbial something which live in biofilm.
I 1000% suffered from this. When I realised and cut them out, the months of dumping was absolutely horrendous, very scary. I did phase them out but perhaps too fast. Thank you Elliot for all of your work on this!!
ive also heard that cooking dosent help. there are so many conflicting sources on this subject even the food lists are no where near close if you keep comparing - its rediculous@@Fearzero
@@clemclemson9259 It doesn't matter what you heard. The science has proven a 30% to 87% reduction in oxalates depending on which method you use to cook the greens. Steaming was best.
I truly think everyone needs different diets for health problems. Genetics, environment, and health all require a different diet style. probably one reason many people with autoimmune issues going on things like the Keto and Carnivore diets see such an improvement.
One problem is that lists of low and high oxalate foods contradict each other so much. Cucumbers, avocado, dried figs, blueberries, kale, coffee, mustard greens, parsnips, peanuts, sunflowers seed, and squash seeds are some that are high or low depending on who says so. Some people cut the Gordian knot by just eating animal foods. But this is not feasible or desirable for everyone.
@@Loohan7 I haven't deleted anything, only just saw the video this morning. Sorry we seem to have been at cross purposes, I hadn't realised it was you who said" I don't follow", I thought that implied the person didn't understand what Loohan meant . The joys of hurriedly using a phone 😀
I think they should do a study on populations used to eating a variety of fruit and vegetables like vegetarians in India whose culture has incorporated plants into their diet for centuries. Even the meat eating population in India have vegetable dishes as part of their diet. If you don't have the microbiome to digest plants, it may be a problem. But studies always focus on Western people and that is not representative of the whole human species. Not saying oxalate is not a problem. Just saying they need global studies.
Studies focus on Western people because that's where the majority of scientists have been present. If other races want to conduct their studies, nothing is stopping them.
Almonds are being used by people and wrestlers especially in South Asia from centuries, and they found nothing wrong in almonds but tons of benefits. Point is: This kind of medical Researches are usually flawed. If you study history of this kind of Researches of past 100 years; you will see 100% contradictions. Once Egg was a big culprit for heart disease and today they say that egg is great. Once they used to say that Butter is very bad fat and today they say: butter is great. Cholesterol used to be a Bigggg Criminal but today they tell: that Cholesterol is indeed friendly as it repairs damaged lining of arteries, and during that repair, artery become narrow. So culprit is not Cholesterol but inflammation. There are hundreds of examples for such contradictions. Not all but most of Medical Researches on Food are mere guesswork. *Important is:* diversify and be moderate in all kinds of foods, control weight BMI, be stress free, and be active/exercise/walk, and that is key to good health. In the light of centuries old use of Almonds; I will classify all that Research Flawed which tells that Almonds are bad
Sixties. Practically my entire diet is made up of those foods. I can't stand cooked greens, but love uncooked spinach. Maybe its the pesticides interacting with the oxalate that are doing people in?
I also eat an oxalate rich diet, vegan, love red beets, baby spinach in salads and almond milk with everything. My kidneys are fine. It maybe helps that I avoid salt and drink water. I don't like eating dry, hard foods. Soups, smoothies, light foods, easy to digest, very little protein.
Thank you for making a short video I never can watch the ones that are more than eight or nine minutes. Thanks very much for the short concise information thumbs up from me
I started eating almonds to avoid snacking on 'junk food' and also raw spinach. Started having kidney and bladder stones. Later a urine test showed oxalates and I did the research and cut out those foods.
Thanks for the video! I am eating an animal based low oxalate diet and i seem to be dealing with dumping issues. Urethra irritation is a big one that maybe oxalate dumping that I am dealing with. Please keep this kind of videos coming!
I have had bladder pain for years - the only relief I have is taking D-Mannose (I used to only have to take it every few days, now I have to take it daily, sometimes multiple times a day). I'm now pretty convinced my bladder pain is due to oxalates, along with my all-over body pain, skin rashes that won't ever go away, and possibly even my menstrual migraines and fibroids. The doctors here in America are terrible - I just went to one and she refused to do an ultrasound on me for a chronic uterine pain that I keep having, and when she recommended a CT Scan - my insurance company denied coverage because it wasn't "medically necessary". So I'm on my own now. Thanks for these informative videos!
The bladder pain could be "chronic pelvic pain syndrome" Search around on youtube, theres a channel called "Uptown Mike" that talks about it a lot. I had symptoms for 6-8 months and they want away in 2 days with the right stretches.
My youngest daughter has the same issues. She’s on D mannose and a certain cranberry tablet the urologist prescribed. I never really had any UTIs or bladder problems but her dad had kidney stones and was recommended low oxalate. I on the other hand, am experiencing severe joint and muscle issues I’m now convinced is related to oxalate.
Wow! I agree with you about our medical system. It sucks. They don’t seem to know much of anything, especially when it comes to autoimmune diseases. I had a rash that the dermatologist could heal in 1 1/2years. I finally just stopped going, because what was the point. Insurance companies play the doctor instead of letting the doctor decide what we need. This is just wrong! I hope you get the relief you need. I seem to have oxalate dumping, too, sadly.
I’m doing a distilled water only way of life now been doing it for almost a month 2 weeks and I started feeling the effects of oxalate dumping and I am starting to take care of it but only after I ended up with gout in both knees which are weak joints over the years. I’m in a lot of pain. I even feel like I got glass shards inside my vulva! Keep going to the bathroom so much I’m here to relearn everything that I thought I knew from 2016 when I started cutting back on oxalates, which started my dumping originally. Who knew that distilled water only way of life could re-create oxalate dumping all over again.😢
I felt the same since I was diagnosed as a diabetic changed my diet to more greens..my vulva was cracking.. but just thought its old 63..wow..started oiling it with coconut and castor oil..then my fingers were painful like they had stones inside..so decided to eat more goat meat..
Trying the carnivore way now (with some minor amount of fruit) and so far my gut and eczema seem to be doing lot better. I don't believe in veggies anymore.
same. Eggs are great source of vitamins and protein and easy to digest. Except on cheat days every now and again I go gluten free dairy free that helps for me but you might be ok. I dont eat many veggies anymore either occasionally carrots and broccoli thats cooked but mostly fruit protein and gluten free snacks.
For years, I've been told of the benefits of an all plant diet. Perhaps Ben Franklin was right in that moderation may be the key to the near ideal diet.
I heard that, too, and tried eating mostly plants several times. Every time I felt worse than ever. I was left not knowing what to do because it seemed the vegetables were causing me to feel awful. I’d never heard of that. I’m now on Carnivore and have discovered that I have oxalate dumping and potentially histamine intolerance. Hopefully, this diet will help, but probably not until these oxalates come out.
Thank you. Explains why eating my greens always made me feel unwell and got worse the more I tried to increase vegetable intake. After numerous tests, a Gastroenterologist told me to limit or avoid fruit and veggies.
@Ellena369 look into carnivore diet or variations that incorporate more meat. Very difficult if vegetarian, but heard testimonials from many channels that carnivore heals vegetarians with declining health.
This week I have seen videos that say dark green vegetables are bad for me, Olive oil is bad for me, fat is bad for me, sugar is bad for me, tuna is bad for me, caffeine is bad for me, processed foods are bad for me........ should I end it all now or wait until my diet does it?
... same what I thought, if you surf on YT after a year you cannot eat anything anymore. Fasting should be very healthy, but not if you quit eating forever. Maybe this is the key, to make fasting periods regularly, so that the body can get rid of waste. I must say I meanwhile believe, that humans know less nowadays than back, where they had to build up their toolset for foods and cooking over generations and manifest it by tradition.
I have had intermittent burning stools for years, patches on my skin more recently, an intense back itch that comes and goes for last year, my urine has been smelling more foul lately with more bubbles. i even had a mildly elevated creatinine a few weeks back but it went down after a recheck 2 weeks later. i had this random pain in the middle of my pink finger joint a few months back. overall, i always feel off. I am naturally a pretty heavy set person and i ended up using alot of dietetic foods that were high in oxalate in the process. for years i was having a low carb baked goods line up that was based on almond and soy flour. i would make protein drinks with almond milk, chocolate protein powder, a cacao (also has spinach in it) super greens powder, and sugar free chocolate syrup (literally an oxalate bomb). big tea drinker as well. i am pretty convinced my symptoms line up with my oxalate consumption,. ill be ruling it out in the next few weeks if this is really the issue.
I'm with you. My diet choices and general symptoms rhyme with yours. I've been eating huge salads and large amounts of mixed nuts for years and the past year I've been having strange symptoms all over the body; heart rate that won't come down for days; pains in joints; low energy and sex drive; hard time seeing when driving at night. There's more but that comes to mind immediately. Are you going to do carnivore? I'm two days in on carnivore. Also look former vegan of almost 10 years. The anti-meat propaganda really has done a number on me
@@ladycactus110 exactly, that will prevent your body from going to crazy town. I switched too fast and after 5 great days I went straight to hell. I was using white bread because I thought wheat was high enough, but it's only like 5mg per piece, you would have to eat like 10 pieces to slow it down lol. Dark chocolate is way more effective.
@@ThomasMitche11 thank you. I'm day three and added in some macadamia nuts and clean chocolate but only a small amount. What's the consensus about cheese? Had a strong desire for it today and had some organic mozzarella and feta with my two meals which were eggs cooked but still runny. Any tips from your experience would be appreciated
12 years ago, I successfully managed to stop kidney stones from forming. But for the last 3 years I was getting sicker by the day. Luckily I found these articles. I slowly started to remove Oxalates from my diet, I had a fair amount of dumping problems. Every day I am feeling better, feeling better one day and not so much another. I had such "brain fog" I was having trouble functioning. Now my mind is starting to clear and the pain is getting less. I actually went to a Dr. But he did nothing. M thyroid is feeling better I am even getting my eyebrows back just a little. My dog's groomer got excited when she saw me (I am not heavy) when she saw me she could not believe how thin I look. I must have lost a ton of something because she said I look like I lost a lot of weight, it was just 3 lbs. I was told that may happen. I don't have kidney disease I just figure I have a storage of crystals. Whatever it is, unloading some oxalate is making me feel fantastic. Your videos are helping me understand all this. BYW I am over 70, I didn't know that was a thing till now. I think a big thing that is helping is I never drank milk or had calcium, now I have some at every meal. thank you
For those who still want green veggies: foods that are low in oxalates but high in vitamin K include mustard greens, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, mushrooms, onions, peas, and zucchini1.
Just boil the greens for 5-7 minutes and you get rid of 99% of oxalates. I've been eating boiled parsley, which has over 1800mg/100g of oxalates for over 2 years now and I don't have any kidney or thyroid problems.
Thanks to my high oxalate diet, I developed a kidney stone the size of damn near a nickel. Thank god I got it out but it was a harrowing experience I never want to go through again. Now I’m mindful of eating too much high oxalate foods. Moderation is key.
I'm ANGRY, VERY ANGRY that I trusted dietitians and google believing that Spinach, Tea, Almonds, organic peanut-butter and dark chocolate were good for me. For the past 5 years I've been religiously making my shake in the morning with as much Spinach as I can grab with my big hand, along with bananas, Almond milk, eggs, orange juice and a big spoon of peanut butter. And then after I eat lunch, I would eat lots and lots of almonds with my cup of black tea (leaving the teabag in) to my left. And then, at night, when I get any sugar cravings I would opt for a healthier alternative, PEANUT BUTTER again with a tiny bit of jelly. All my joints were inflamed, my eye sight recently started to worsen (couldn't read small letters anymore) my sleep is shit and my energy level was very low, even though I was going to the gym for the past 3 months. Then I heard about the carnivore diet and how plants are trying to kill us, so I started a 90% strict carnivore on 06/02/2023, cutting sugars completely and eating less than 10 grams of carbs per day. And If I cheated, I would choose the lowest oxalate veggie and eat very little of it after steaming it and adding butter. In 2 weeks, I was able to run the same way that I did when I was 17!!!!!! I ran so fast that only the tips of my toes were touching the ground (still had some knee pain left over back then). Now, in less than 2 months, I have lost 28 pounds, my knee pain, elbows pain, gum bleeding, shitty sleeping, low energy, bad eye-sight, brittle nails ALL GONE!!!!!! The problem is, who are you gonna sue for this?????!!!! I got screwed over big time and there is no one to blame but the government. I know that I'm still going to get healthier each day, but those oxalates are dangerous and if you cut them out completely and abruptly, you could experience serious health complications due to fast oxalate dumping. One doctor said that if you used to consume a lot of oxalates, then keep including them in whatever diet you choose to follow, but in very small amounts and reduce this amount over a few weeks or a few months before cutting them out completely.
@@redrustyhill2 if you’re talking about eating meat and eggs, and staying away from other stuff, then I don’t know what to tell you 🤷♂️ I personally would rather eat disgusting food and be healthy than eat delicious junk food and suffer . I guess it’s a preference and everyone is free to eat however they like.
@@David-R. meat, eggs, dairy, potatoes, bread, some veggies, fruit in season, limited snacks of nuts is how my family has eaten for generations. Everyone has been healthy and lived long.
@@redrustyhill2 That sounds pretty good, and you are some of the lucky people that aren't having any bad reactions to any foods. I wouldn't call the carnivore diet disgusting however, I'd call it "Boring AF" lol. some people like Mikhaila Peterson, and thousands of others, didn't find healing and comfort until they cut out everything but meat from their diet. Others used it as an elimination diet and slowly introduced some foods back to figure what was causing them issues (of course, sugars, processed foods, seed oils and carbs are out of the question). I'm personally having trouble going 100% strict. I was 99% strict for a little over a week and literally healed my gums that have been bleeding at a couple of spots for 3 years, same with the pain in my elbows and knees. My personal culprit was Spinach and sugars, I cut them out and the magic happened. As I'm typing this I'm having some meat, cooked with onions (for flavor) with plain Greek yogurt, I have strawberries and blueberries in my fridge that I'm going to have some of later. I made a shake with strawberries and heavy whipping cream with a half a spoon of honey. Not proud but I had to before trying to go stricter again. I still feel good and my inflammation is non-existent :) Oh and lost 34 pounds in less than 2 month. I lost the bad weight, no muscle loss.
A few years ago I inadvertently gave myself an oxalate overload by juicing parsley and eating baby spinach. Soon I could hardly urinate and my urine as thick and cloudy. I quickly figured out what was wrong and I immediately cut back on oxalates. My symptoms subsided and I've been careful ever since. It turns out juicing only concentrates oxalates and both parsley and spinach are off the scales as far as oxalate content is involved. I want to learn more about the dumping symptoms. I know they can come and go. I've been experiencing skin blotches - it looks like someone has taken a needle and pinpricked the skin on my face. Then it disappears only to come back a few weeks later. it's quite bizarre. I actually don't mind if it means that I'm dumping oxalates.
Im not prone to kidney stones( knock on wood). I had the audacity to tell a pharmacist to try lemon water + olive oil for her horrible kidney stones and to her credit she took the advice😊.
I’ve been dumping for 6 months. It’s getting better. I’m trying to slowly reduce dietary intake. Going cold turkey is too painful! Using a rebounder for a minute several times/day helps move oxalates through the lymph. D Mannose helps my bladder and aloe Vera juice helps the bladder and intestines, too.
So important! I had interstitial cystitis in the 70s. The doctor said I had pinpoint hemorrhages on the inside of my bladder, which I bet corresponded to oxalates crystals.
My oxalate problem was due to too much supplements (specifically 500 mg a day curcumin C3 complex for a year and some other supplements). I couldn't avoid it since I was taking it as a pain relief for a neck injury I had. That intake of curcumin created a kidney stone on my right kidney (curcumin is very high in oxalates). That stone is long gone now but I now have 24/7 pain in the low right abdomen area (close to the appendix) which is probably irritable large intestine or some kind of bladder infection. After 6 months of cutting milk products and taking some probiotic pills, its getting better. So, do not overdo it on taking vitamins/supplements. Take it easy.
I am in the Facebook group trying low oxalate, they actually test foods and are in contact with a lab, join them and type in Curcumin, it's on the very low oxalate list, they tested it in their lab. I would highly recommend you join them, very interesting
I had a lower gut inflammation that became appendicitis (undiagnosed) 3 weeks ago. I fasted and it went away, no surgery. I was eating 1/3 of a bar of very dark (75-90%) chocolate for over a year. I think this caused it. Now I do have some residual light pain in that low right abdomen near the appendix and bottom of the rib cage. Wondering if this is all oxalate related and what else I should do.
@@TheBroLounge wow. I too was eating dark chocolate for many years now and to tell you the truth I was wondering if its appendicitis or not but the symptoms of an appendix bursting are different (sharp pain and off you go to the hospital)....so it's probably not that. It might be chronic appendicitis (yes, that exists as well), nerve related (but you must have back pain as well) or simply muscle aches. Is it deep or shallow pain? Mine is shallow and when the pain comes a simple hot/cold cream usually does the trick. Other things you can try is black cumin seed oil. That among with magnesium complex (500mg) and sometimes curcumin (but don't overdo it due to oxalates) seems to do the trick....also, the C3 curcumin complex is the lowest in oxlates so do not take anything else except that.
Thank you for this video. I’ve been suffering from these problems for 3 years. When I decided to go on a healthy diet, I consumed way too much oxalate foods. I experienced a sharp lower back pain, had blood in my urine and foamy urine. My useless doctor told me my pain has no physical cause. I think she was indirectly saying I’m making it up 😂. She even told me off like a child. Anyway, I had many tests and scans but no sign of any kidney stones. I’m relieved of course but confused. My kidney function tests always come clean. But I DO feel pain in my lower back, sometimes as a tingly pain in my “love handles” and if I eat more high oxalate foods it extends to where my kidneys are in my back. I’m worried this means damage to my kidneys, but confused as to why I’ve not had any kidney stones yet. Can anyone explain this? I of course avoid high oxalates, but sometimes I have them in small amounts and I instantly feel tingling in my lower back. So so frustrating!!!!! I think they are definitely affecting my joints more but I am terrified at the thought of kidney stones.
Vitamin C increasing urinary oxalates suggests perhaps it increases dumping and protects one from the damage consuming oxalates could cause. Im on the fence between giving up cacao or trying to find a work around I really don't have much in my life worth living for so it's really difficult to make dietary changes. I just got rid of coconut chips so my crunchy texture is gone they weren't digesting and showing up in my stool so im not left with much choice in regards to sweetened dessert type foods. I've come from a life of eating boatloads of carbs followed by desserts so I can't really change that I don't think just transition. Portion control was a big one as fibre rich foods objectively satisfied me due to the time it took to eat and the visual amount so moving to keto was difficult and went from eating tubs of almond butter as vegan keto to bags and bags of pistachios (full of mould now I know). I know Stevia is suggested to affect quorum sensing but more definitive data is needed. I wouldn't say I have ARFID but my sensory obsessions are borderline pathological probably stemming more from trauma than an arbitrary beheivhoural label such as autism. I think, having something foundational in an ever shifting biology is mostly responsible for routine obsession seen in autistics. It's a form of grounding
I started juicing after watching Nutribullet commercials. I wanted to be super healthy, so I would drink big green smoothie everyday. After doing this for a few months I started not feeling well, but I never thought it was the smoothies. My gut started hurting, I was bloating up and feeling so sick everyday to the point that I really thought I was dying. So I decided to stop juicing and eating plant based and just enjoy junk food till I die. Well after a few weeks of eating whatever I wanted I started feeling better. Binging a dummy I started back juicing again, thinking it will make me feel even better. After just a few days I was so sick again and that’s when it hit me it was the juicing making me sick. Two years later after stopping the juicing I’m still not 100% back to normal. Wish I had never juiced 😢😢😢
Now apparently these oxylates have been buried in our bodies for perhaps decades!! Has any body noticed when you go into "dumping" phase that your bowel movements are putrid and stink like its some dead creature being extracted from you? I don't mean to be gross, but can I have some feedback on this particular issue? If its buried in our bodies and comes out of the "grave" would this be why its odour is so toxic? Appreciate your comments!
Seems very unlikely that stinky s*** would have anything to do with oxalates. Have you recently upped your meat intake? That's far more likely the cause. The heavier load of sulfur containing amino acids in meat are metabolized by gut bacteria into very smelly sulfur compounds.
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Very informative. I learned about this from doctor Eric berg almost a year ago and im still going through a waves of detox due to oxalates. I used to have greens drinks with raw spinach 3 to 4 times a weeks for almost 3 years and I got off all high oxalates as soon as I found out. The waves of detox become less and less over time but still after a year Im going through it.
@@freddygolzofficial4129 yea it took me a while to figure out what was happening I thought I was detoxing from something or maybe it was certain supplements I was taking. Had to go off everything and then came across a video explaining what oxalates do and it was the spinach smoothies I was making.
I’ve eaten mostly veg and fruit my entire life and I’m 74. Why am I not crippled or writhing in pain? I worked up until 6 months ago when I quit by choice because I wanted to do other things. So what gives?
Your gut biome seems then to tolerate it well. I can't tolerate most veggies and fruits... I can tolerate blueberries, avocados every once in a while, very few raspberries and cooked "to death" Brusselssprouts....that's it! ...I was vegetarian for almost 20 years ...the week I stopped eating vegetables my skin healed on my hands, knuckles, elbows and thighs...within 1 week.
@@connywonnie7971 Maybe I tolerate veg and fruit better because I’ve eaten a lot of dairy most of my life as my main protein source. I’ve heard that a diet high in calcium (through food, not supplements) tends to neutralize the oxalates in veg and fruit. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I guess it’s a good theory!
@@Sparkling-Cyanide that's interesting. I was watching Dr. Gregor and he did a video on blueberries and said not to have milk or dairy with blueberries as there was something in the milk that stopped the body from absorbing certain nutrients from the berries. Maybe you are right about dairy blocking the absorption of the oxalates. I have blueberries in a shake every night but add powdered milk to my oatmeal and fruit and nuts in the morning. My biggest problem is when I eat sprouts I get very tired. Nobody else seems to have this problem.
We need to spread Oxalate awareness, like yesterday,… This is REAL, and with the proper education like this, we can live & feel better then ever 👊🏼 …Share this video with anyone you know who continuously consumes high Oxalate foods like I have for way too many years,… You will help that person(s) more than you know 🫶🏼
I'm wondering since the bladder tissue is sensitive to the effects of oxalates that the symptoms of urgency may be related to the irritation caused by the crystals?
There is so much directly conflicting information on high/low oxalate foods out there. An expert says blackberries, raspberries, peanuts are high, an online list says these are low. Where can i find an accurate reliable list.
Informative video thanks. As someone who often mixes spinach in smoothies it's a bit disturbing to learn of potential oxalate overload. I wonder what can be done to limit the burden if you already have oxalates in your system?
just gradually reduce and then go off the spinach and eat low oxalate foods now and again to avoid dumping process. make sure to taper off. Cut out as many high oxalate foods as possible and ride out the process. Its not fun its not pretty it comes in waves and its different for everyone in severity and frequency. Depends on how much your bodies able to tolerate how long you've been doing it for and how healthy you are overall. you'll get through it and the waves you experience will become less frequent and less severe and you'll know your headed in the right direction.
You can add calcium citrate to your diet, as calcium binds to oxalate to remove it from the body. However, for this purpose, don't take it at the same time as Vit. D since calcium will want to bind to the D rather than the oxalate.
Istarted detoxing and i got extremely burning in my back and than tingling neuropathy hands and feet than muscle cramps..er couldn't find anything.. so i just kept going thinking it's detox but my kidney functioning was struggling and i kept getting pain .. I'm terrified now what can i do to repair and i have crystals in my urine as well
I have experimented with both a strict vegan and a carnivore diet. Even on a lower oxalate vegan diet I was having crazy joint pain in my feet, ankles, and occasionally in my knees. Went back to carnivore, and almost immediately there was no more pain. I’m done experimenting with the vegan diet.
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Absolutely correct. Spinach and a handful of almonds in a smoothie will make my joints hurt with an hour and it lasts for days. It’s easily reproducible. No doubt it gets worse with chronic exposure but I swear it doesn’t take much time to accumulate but rather within hours after an oxalate rich meal. During my smoothie diet experiment, I also had my only stone formation. I’m 100% certain that 90% of diagnosed arthritis is caused solely by oxalate and could be reversed with avoidance. That said, Doctors fear creating orthorexic patients and will never suggest that patients avoid any “plant foods” regardless of the evidence.
@@BipolarBilly52 Frankly, there’s nothing in plants that you need which you can’t get from a whole animal foods diet. Vitamin C is the only possible exception because there’s only a small amount in meat. That said, you only need extra anti-oxidants if you have oxidative stress from eating plant foods that cause oxidative stress in the first place. eg. Oxidized seed oils, fried foods, carbs and sugars, alcohol etc. and other things people get inflammation from eating.
Orthorexia was invented by doctors as a gaslighting technique to silence people who are waking up to the fact that we are all eating poison. Just call them crazy. Please pass the twinkies.
Thank you for your research! I'm a "healthy" person. I eat many of the foods listed, and I often just learn about oxalates. I've been experiencing pain in my lower abdomen. Something is telling me it's related to oxalates; I've also consumed a lot of cranberries, which are moderate in oxalates in both pure juice and supplemental form. I'm going to PC this week. I'll try a low-oxalate diet as well. Since I've laid off the oxalate much of the pain has subsided
Thanks for teaching me about vulvodynia. I'm still trying to figure out if vaginismus could be worsened by oxalate, but it's not even well known about and is atleast partially psychological, so maybe not?
Well I’m confused now having gone vegetarian for 7 years and developing an autoimmune condition PMR affecting the joints maybe I should return to meat eating? No idea how to get tested here in Sweden, they might never have heard about this😓
4th day on carnivore my urinary incontinence disappeared. I used to sometimes feel that I was peeing needles. Oxylate crystals? Who knew. Not my doctor, not my PA whose specialty is gyn, not the urogynecologist.
Finally someone knows what's wrong with me. Sharp things in my eyes and in my urinary track always coming out painfully. Makes you think you are close to death. I was using a lot of coconut oil all over and I'm vegatarian. My husband has it in his eyes too. He was using a lot of coconut oil too. He is not vegatarian but eats a lot of fruits, vegetables and nuts too. Can you lead me to the video we need to watch from here?
ooo!! so glad I saw this! I litterally had a burning poop yesterday and I thought it was because i wasn't managing my sulfur issues...I couldn't really figure out the reason. now I am thinking its from dumping. I am very worried about dumping because I am trying to get pregnant. Some people say dumping can cause miscarriages.
Listen to the interview Anthony Chafree had with Sally Norton. It's all about oxalates and dumping, and at one point she mentions something about breast feeding. It might be of importance to you
Oxalates displace sulfur in their transporters, which might be what’s creating sulfur issues (along with low molybdenum downstream, preventing clearance of the displaced sulfur).
My problem with oxalates started with a UTI, I took antibiotics and I didn’t take them correctly and I took them for a long time, for like five weeks. At the end, I didn’t have a UTI anymore but I still had lots of pain and I realized after months that it was because of this oxalate issue. Because the oxalate degrading bacteria in the digestive tract (oxalobacter formigenes) had also been wiped out by the antibiotics. I’m getting better but it’s taken about five months.
OK this explains to me why i have been eating a "high oxalate diet" for 14 years and never experienced any of the things on the list. I've never in my life had a urinary tract infection. And I take probiotics regularly for good gut health.
Thanks for the great info. Can removing all carbs and oxalates cause gout-type symptoms? I think its oxalates but dr says its gout. Ive never had it before but it started a month or so in to carnivore diet.
Carnivore formals or one year. Best decision of my life. Meat, eggs, water, butter/ghee, salt only things I eat. Blood chemistry PERFECT, sleep like a log every night, skin,nails and hair improved out of sight. Now weigh what I was at 21. Am 74 years old now.
I had dumping and it was rough! I would say dont go too fast ! Even a cup of black tea can help reduce symptoms but cut them out of your life for sure!
I just found out that oxalates were contributing significantly to gouty joints. What is said at the end of the video is good practical advice. If the need to diagnose is not urgent, instead of the going through all the hoops and delays getting an accurate diagnosis, start by dialing down high-oxalate food. I did just that and it's a night-day difference. I reduced wheat and wheat germ products, spinach, chard, and anything with almonds. In the past, I was eating dark chocolate, blueberries, and having almond milk in my lattes. I remember eating a product sold at Costco that was chocolate covered blueberries, for heaven's sake. My mother, a gardener, would serve blanched purslane and chard in different salads. Purslane is high in oxalate. Just avoiding these things has made the stiffness in the joints disappear. I love sandwiches, but dropping bread and cold cuts (high in purines, not so much in oxalate) has helped as well.
So, can a moderate addition of greens and other oxalate foods, along with rotation of many different foods, be reasonable for people who don’t have obvious symptoms?
Around 15 years ago, I faced an unusual issue with my body. My entire body ached, especially my muscles, which remained persistently tense. Even the slightest movement, like flexing the muscles in my shoulder, felt as if they might shatter like fragile glass. In the mornings, when I tensed my thigh muscles, an odd sensation akin to cracking would occur, followed by sudden fatigue. Anyway, during that time, I consumed spinach regularly due to persistent constipation. This mysterious discomfort persisted for approximately six months. To this day, the cause remains elusive. However, I now suspect that my spinach consumption played a role. It wasn't until recently, while watching a RUclips video about oxalates, that I learned about their potential impact. Could it be that what I experienced 15 years ago was indeed related to oxalates?
Highly likely. I'm putting 2 and 2 together now. Started eating huge green salads about 5 months ago for lunch. Giant. Tons of spinach, rubarb, etc. Mysteriously my lower back started hurting about 2 months into doing this and my body in general aches. My blood pressure has leveled out nicely, but my bladder is also irritated as a result of the high oxalate intake. Gonna moderate it.
So how many cups of Spinach is too much in a day? Or potatoes? The thing is a lot of these chelated foods are high in minerals that I need to sleep well at night. Supplements don’t cut it, nor does a carnivore diet.
I used to eat a lot of spinach and greens in daily green smoothies and ya I felt great on this health drink....now I only use the celery out of this smoothie in my very odd health drink....with apple juice and ginger
Thank God for Naturopaths, because my MD thinks this is nonsense. My ND told me that she thought the chronic burning and pain my my feet and bladder were caused by oxalates and she backed that up with an observation that it might be the reason I have Hashimoto's and idiopathic systemic lymphedema, arthritis in my hands and brain fog. The MD's just keep telling me to lose weight and all my issues will 'go away', but can't figure out why I have lymphoedema and lipidoedema. I'm pretty sure that the basis of my health issues is a genetic intolerance to oxalates.
I have had a continuous UTI for nearly two years now,I have lost count of the number of antibiotics I have endured,cystoscopy revealed nothing,it hurts like hell when I urinate and quite often for some time after,I am uncomfortable all the time,my bladder is constantly upset. Looking at this information I am wondering if my problems are linked,I was also diagnosed with ME three years ago and that brings it's own multiple unpleasant symptoms
There are a million different lists of high oxalate food on the internet. It is impossible to know what list to trust. For instance, I have seen blueberries as high oxalate and also as zero oxalate food. Same with potato. Is there a reliable list somewhere? Thank you very much!
Understand that different varieties of one specific fruit/vegetable can have different ox levels depending in where it was grown. That said, there ARE some consistent highs and lows. The only list I would recommend using is located on the TLO group
@@kae2678 Sorry, but your wrong on this. A low OX diet = up to 50mg soluble oxalate per day 1/2 cup spinach RAW = 115mg soluble oxalate 1/2 cup cooked: 90mg Just one serving is almost double the amount needed for a low ox diet. Here is another example: 1/2 cup of boiled malanga sweet potato = 41.6mg Half a cup (a smill serving for just one meal) is essentially the entire amount of oxalate one could eat in the WHOLE day.
@@EONutrition Thank you Elliot. I cannot see that TLO list, unless I create a Facebook account (which I am unwilling to do). Could you please share the list here or on your website. Thanks a lot!
@@schnuppe0078 Here is a simplified list on this page www.lowoxalate.info/recipes.html Download the "Oxalate status food chart" That one wont provide you with the exact mg and soluble status. However the foods are designated very low, low, moderate, high, very high. Negligible Neg = 0mg Very Low VL = 0.1-2.9mg Low L = 3.0-4.9mg Moderate M = 5.0-9.9mg High H = 10.0-14.9mg Very High VH = 15.0mg & up
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What the heck can we eat? Everything is toxic and dangerous. Bread, sugar, veggies, nuts, processed, unprocessed, cooked, raw, geez every food has a video about toxicity. How is my mom living alone at age 94?
Genetics. Just lucky.
Just eat cakes 🍰, beautiful sandwiches 🥪, glass of wine 🍷 fish and chips, hamburger 🍔, nice steak 🥩, roasted chicken 🍗 and enjoy life while you can. 😂
Does she just do a bacon, cig, coffee diet of champions?
I have oxalate poisoning from my superfood smoothies, Dr Ken Berry has a 90 day BBB & E to get us through 90 days of carnivore. I have been eating carnivore for 10 months now, still dumping oxalates without pain. I have blood spots and white spots on my arms, some brain fog, but have my balance back and feel stronger every day.
For those of us who have messed up guts oxalates can pass through the intestines more easily…. There in lies the problem. Couple that with all the toxins in the environment and in our foods and acquired histamine and salicylate intolerance from oxalate overload and bam. You have to look at the soil of someone’s body.
Great video! I used to eat a "healthy diet" also (for 10 years or more), bowls of beans, lentils, loved raw onions, almonds, peanuts, dark chocolate, spinach and would often not drink enough water because I have an enlarged prostate and didn't want to be going to pee every half hour. Unfortunately, I developed kidney stones and found that most of my diet was oxalates!! Now I cut out all of these and am learning to eat what is better for me. Lemon water, apple cider vinegar and drinking much more water, have truly helped me avoid forming more kidney stones.
Whats your diet now?
I had the same problem. I now eat lean meats, fish and white rice, and sometimes berry smoothies. All my health problems went away. I still eat Vegetables but rarely. Maybe once a month.
My sister has sever osteoporosis .
She ate bags of spinach.
I started to eat lotts of nutts not knowing .
I use to do some of oxalate foods seasonally and very little . Then started to work for so called health food industry . ate kale , spinach , then Barrie's for now you could have them all the time .
Been slowly getting worse and worse .
Started taking magnesium citrate , calcium citrate , potassium citrate started to notice it helped .
Then biotin , taurine , butterate .
Just watch Eliot's vid on nutrition .
I took a expensive test and it showed I was low on all these nutrients .
Thank you Eliot .
I used to drink green smoothies almost on a daily basis. I was a very strong fan of them and recommended them to all my friends and family. At that time, I always had a burning feeling while urinating. I've never paid much attention to it though and thought it was normal.
I heard about oxalate then. I didn't believe the negatives of them for a while. Coincidently, I stopped drinking green smoothies for a while because of being very busy with my day. I stopped perhaps for three months. Then I started drinking them again. Few days later I got thr burning sensation again after it stopped for weeks.
At that moment I had no doubts about this topic. Btw, I used to put lots of parsely in my smoothies. Parsely turned out to be extremely high in oxalate
*parsley
You can juice cucumbers to get the benefits of chlorophyll since they are low in oxalates.
@@chrislastnam6822 very helpful thnx
In my past, burning when going #1 for me meant I wasn't drinking enough water. Upping my water intake stopped that.
We are supposed to have an intestinal bacteria called “oxylobacter formigenes”. It helps digest oxalates. I am guessing many of us no longer have that bacteria anymore because of antibiotics or GMO’s. It’s hard to get it as a supplement because it is anaerobic.
My first weekend using a juicer, I puked and puked! Boxed it up and never used it again. I’ve been carnivore/ketovore for 9 months. Feel much better.
Did you have the oxalate dumping problem? I think I have that. I’ve had diarrhea since I began Carnivore. Do you know if it causes fairly severe pain in arthritic joints? My right knee was a lot worse than my left, until a few days ago when my left knee became so inflamed I could hardly stand on it.
@@suew4609 Are you eating eggs? dairy? supplements? artificial sweeteners? seasonings? These can all flair joint pain. Might try lion diet for awhile and see if it helps.
Me too. Exactly. Never vomitedso much.
How can that much meat or any food be good for you. Carnivore could only work if you get your own animals and pasture raise them. Do not use all the vaccines, hormones, and torture that most animals take. There's a reason they torture them, and why I don't eat meat. Meat today is poison like everything else. It could also give you bad karma. These carnivore comments are bots. No one is doing this. Or they got the same results this other person stated. Everything in moderation, even moderation.
@@Mrs.TJTaylor, These comments about the carnivore diet are bots, trying to make us sick.
Thinking of going full on carnivore / keto.
I’ve suffered inflammation all over my body for a longgg time , assuming it was gluten flares , I never thought it could be the “healthy” food I was eating . After coming across the definition of Oxalates , I paused and was in complete shock ..MY ENTIRE DIET was oxalate heavy . Chocolate, sweet potatoes , almonds , green smoothies , potatoe chips with avocado , cassava to sub for wheat , it wasn’t until a couple of days ago I literally couldn’t breathe and my body was feeling sooooooo horrible like I was run over by three buses that I said “nah, this isn’t normal” and suddenly ran into Oxalates . I’m now removing all possible Oxalates from my diet to see if my inflammation goes away. Wow is all I can say.
And to try to stop the inflammation I would buy turmeric lattes 🥲 didn’t know TURMERIC was an oxalate load .
WOW . I am so sorry body 😢 no more
Amazing😳
How long did you have dumping episodes and what were your main symptoms?
I had a similar experience. The healthy "anti oxidant" and "anti inflammatory" foods I was consuming were poisoning me. I'm glad I caught it before I got any more damage than I already incurred.
I drink "Golden Milk" , it's delicious, I'm saddened to learn turmeric is high oxalate.
I had the same thing but it felt like I got run over by two buses, not three.
It definitely affected me. I had unbelievable brain fog and no energy. I loved eating salads. Huge salads. Everyday. Thought I thought I had all sorts of different things. Just 2 days without salads I felt so much better.
Actually salads are really good for you just make sure to eat vegetables in low OXALATES .
many salad veggies are low in oxalates just choose the right ones
Yep. I've been on a carnivore and now lion diet. My interstitial cystitis improved straight away. I was vegetarian then vegan with lots of oxilates in my diet. I wish I'd known sooner than 7 years sick.
I went to a urologist because of interstitial cystitis & they never suggested removing oxalates from my diet. Sometimes I think doctors are criminals, not curing you so they can continue to make $$$
What is the lion diet?
@@LeftismIsADisease it's eating only meat from ruminant animals eg beef, lamb, goat, antelope.
i’ve been to hell and back so it’s really great to read your comment.
i came very close to not making it.
question if you don’t mind…..when you went carnivore, did you experience any oxalate dumping, any temporary side effects of suddenly stopping the oxalates like Elliot talks about or did you just start feeling better?
what were the worst symptoms you had if you don’t mind sharing?
@@ginoasci urinary urgency and pain on bladder filling. Painful pelvic spasms worse with sitting too long. Sometimes constant pain relieved sometimes by lying down. Also had IBS symptoms which made bladder pain worse.
Started carnivore last July and I had no pain for a whole 4 months. During that time I had a lot of crystals in my urine. The pain returned a little at 5 months and sporadically since. It's hard to gauge if it's dumping or a reaction to adding other foods occasionally. Still confused.
My symptom of oxalate overload was a kidney stone, one of the most painful things I have ever been through! This was several years ago, when I first went keto and was eating numerous foods that were high in oxalates, when I didn't even know what oxalates were at the time. I discovered this only after I got the kidney stone and started researching causes.
I am truly sorry for this horrendous experience! I am currently going through this! Would you recommend any foods to help? I am too scared to eat anything and the doctors are useless
are you still in keto diet?
@@Just.Call.Me.A_OK. Right now I am trying to shift to the carnivore diet, at least for the next 3 months, until right before Christmas, when I might loosen up a little bit for a short time.
@@lloydhlavac6807You know, the biggest culprit of kidney/gallbladder stones is meat? All types. The more you know.
I got a kidney stone a few months after starting keto as well - by FAR the worst pain I have ever felt in my life.
I'm in my second bout of a carnivore diet . Both times at three months in I started getting severe joint pain. I have taken high amounts of vitamin C for several decades and eaten plenty of other high oxylate foods. Both times I had diarrhea all throughout the diet. This time around I found videos on Oxylate dumping. I'm about 4 months in now and I've been having extreme foot , ankle and tendon pain. So bad that I could barely walk.I also have had skin rashes and constant diarrhea .After watching oxylate dumping videos, I've upped my minerals, added lemon juice. Today I had a cup of tea and my pain decreased immensely in 20 minutes. That is the confirmation for me that I am oxylate dumping.
I know first hand how too much oxalate feels like. It feels needless sticking in the face....all over the face: lips, cheeks, eye lids, itchy hands, itchy burning eyes and ear pain. Lower back pain, joint pain and tingling foot pain. I clearly remember, every time I ate too many blackberries, strawberries, almonds, spinach, sweet potatoes, regular potatoes and just about every food on the oxalate list...I felt the pain. It's challenging to avoid it because I like so many foods on the oxalate list. I'm now changing the way I eat. Eventhough it's challenging, it's just not worth the risks anymore.
I have the same thing
Me too.
Lower back pain, tingling foot pain. Yes!
Hmmm, I suddenly have lower back pain, too. I started the carnivore diet three months ago and I think I have the oxalate dumping problem. It started with diarrhea. I have arthritis in my knees and suddenly my “good” knee became inflamed and it hurts like hell to bend it, or walk. Have you had this experience? This was the knee that I was using to climb stairs and now I can’t do it with either knee. I hope it doesn’t last too long! My arthritic hands are hurting, too, but not as bad as the knee. I wonder what else is in store for me.
I have been vegan for 6 years but I was craving fats so much so land up eating tea spoon or two of coconut oil. This in so many ways protected me from oxylates. However, now eating animals products and not eating any of the 'super healthy' fruits and vegetables I must say I feel amazing...
Coconut oil protect from oxalates ?
@@minivlogbymano9822 I personally think it did because just imagine how those sharp blades of oxylates would further damage my body...
Why wouldn’t you just eat more plant fats? You can be a vegan and have a high fat diet still.
@@NavanirunzMainly because it’s good for you! We need animal proteins to be our healthiest. Vegans are finding this out, one by one, as they have more energy and feel better eating some animal protein.
😮😢@@suew4609
This makes so much sense. I spent my 4th birthday in the hospital with Nephritis. And have had problems with pain such as Fibromyalgia and Kidney stones for years. Had a high sed rate for years and not one Dr. could figure out why.
Excellent explanation. Thank you Elliot for educating us. We can be well nourished without oxalates. Beware and avoid so called "superfoods" which can actually be "super risky".
Are wheatgrass juice an oxalate??
@@shingtome2179 oxalate, oscillate is something very different 😜
That's a funny typo tho
You can lower oxalates 80 percent by cooking.
Don't give up Spinach whatever you do, lowers colorectal cancer risk by 50% and it protects eyes from aging diseases
@@shingtome2179my google sources say that its low
I got arthritis and bad skin and constipation eating spinach and other greens and grains and nuts. Made me unwell for years . Thank you for good advice. I'm keto / carnivore mostly now and restoring my heath gradually x
Should I avoid grains on an oxelate dump?
I'm also keto-carnivore now in a bid to clear the underlying systemic inflammation of my auto immune disorder of Alopecia Areata. Apart from the fat melting off my body I feel really good and my eyebrow hairs are coming back and my scalp is rough with the teensiest little fair hairs. I still look like Charlie Brown without a wig on but if I hold a bright light behind my head I can see those teensy teensy fair hairs. After years of doctors telling me just to accept my condition I'm like no - I now have answers and understanding of what underlies the condition. And my joints no longer hurt, especially my feet and hands and lower back and knees.
@@leazy1618That’s fantastic!I have several autoimmune diseases that I hope will be gone after a while on Carnivore. I believe I’m having Oxalate dumping though, so I was slowing down a bit, going more gradually. Now I’m having severe pain in my left knee, and wondering if this could also be dumping. Do you happen to know? I have arthritis in my knees, but my left one was my better one, until recently.
Definitely a real problem and one under-diagnosed, very sneaky. Raw greens are really risky for this, despite hype about health and green smoothies. For me it is a problem if I have too much. I have learnt to recognise the symptoms I get (they vary between people depending which part of the body they cause issues). I use this to to check and then remove or lessen intake. It accumulates from different things. Vitamin C has oxalates. Anything I suspect I do a check by eating some on an empty stomach and when I am feeling fine. If I get the symptoms I know.
It doesn't mean you stop these things always. Oxalates are very common, but lots of foods have low levels and they are ok. I take Vit C but have lowered my large amounts. I cannot eat silver beet, beet greens, spinach etc they are too high in oxalates.
I am now in senior years and I notice more sensitivity. I think it is because of the long term damage and sensitivity.
This can really implicate your health so best be aware of it. Some posters here tell of how it harmed until they changed dietary habits. Thanks for video.
I learned I had oxalate toxicity very recently. I tried to return something to a dept store and was told they couldn't take it back because of all the tiny white dots all over it. I eventually found out the dots were oxalate crystals. When you wear a black shirt , take it off after several hours to see if if it's covered with tiny white crystals.
Eow
Thanks for the info Mr. Lastname.
chrislastname, thanks for the tip. I wore a black skirt to church today, I checked it and no white spots.
I will write this down so I'll remember, as I'm getting so much new information.
Interesting!
How can you tell the difference between white crystals and skin flakes?
Outstanding as always. Love the new video format, keep them coming. I'm able to share these shorter videos with everyone I know
Finally there's absolutely nothing left for me to eat on the planet.
Ground beef
I think so, too! If I made a list of all of the foods I have to avoid, for one reason or another, I doubt there would be much left! It sucks!
There's always BUGS to try, Oh Yum.
Carnivore diet, plants try to kill you when you eat them.
Look into carnivore diet. Meat & animal fat is high nutrition and healing. It’s our ancestoral diet before this modern age of fake fruit, veggies & grains that are slowly killing us.
12 years ago, I was snacking on almonds daily, and eating “healthy,” meaning lots of spinach and greens. I had an active job. Odd formations began growing in my knees. They would break off, and I had to have them surgically removed. Some were the size of marbles.
I also had strange urinary incontinence-like symptoms- a watery discharge with a strange odor (TMI, sorry). I noticed that it went away whenever I stopped eating almonds. I still have that whenever I eat nuts or chocolate (way too often). I thought it was an arginine/lysine imbalance, and I take lysine for it. Now I’m wondering if it’s oxalates.
Perhaps most importantly, I had a HS C-Reactive Protein test, and my result was literally off the chart- over 10! I’m having chest tightness and I had an abnormal stress test. This is in spite of the fact that I’ve never smoked, I don’t drink, my blood pressure is normal, and blood sugar and cholesterol are only slightly elevated.
My shoulder blades have recently become painful, and when I roll my shoulders, they sound “crunchy.”
I’m definitely going to try a low oxalate diet ASAP!
Have you tried? How do you feel now?
@@tulipohare12 I try to remove oxalates, mucoid plaque but I wonder about parasites protozoa, Roger Wyburn Mason claim arthritis patients are infected by protozoa. He helped thousands of them . Frank Limpan put Seamus Mullen on keto diet but also he used anti microbial something which live in biofilm.
I 1000% suffered from this. When I realised and cut them out, the months of dumping was absolutely horrendous, very scary. I did phase them out but perhaps too fast. Thank you Elliot for all of your work on this!!
Did you find that symptoms got worse once you stopped eating oxalates ?
Did you cook the greens before consumption?
ive also heard that cooking dosent help.
there are so many conflicting sources on this subject even the food lists are no where near close if you keep comparing - its rediculous@@Fearzero
@@clemclemson9259 It doesn't matter what you heard. The science has proven a 30% to 87% reduction in oxalates depending on which method you use to cook the greens. Steaming was best.
I truly think everyone needs different diets for health problems. Genetics, environment, and health all require a different diet style. probably one reason many people with autoimmune issues going on things like the Keto and Carnivore diets see such an improvement.
One problem is that lists of low and high oxalate foods contradict each other so much. Cucumbers, avocado, dried figs, blueberries, kale, coffee, mustard greens, parsnips, peanuts, sunflowers seed, and squash seeds are some that are high or low depending on who says so.
Some people cut the Gordian knot by just eating animal foods. But this is not feasible or desirable for everyone.
Then you have uric acid from purines
@@CreatingintheWaiting I don't follow.
@@Loohan7 don't follow what. I took it that Loohan was referring to all the differing opinions of what is high and what is low in oxalates.
@@hateanimalabuse I don't follow the non sequitur post that you have since deleted.
@@Loohan7 I haven't deleted anything, only just saw the video this morning. Sorry we seem to have been at cross purposes, I hadn't realised it was you who said" I don't follow", I thought that implied the person didn't understand what Loohan meant . The joys of hurriedly using a phone 😀
I think they should do a study on populations used to eating a variety of fruit and vegetables like vegetarians in India whose culture has incorporated plants into their diet for centuries. Even the meat eating population in India have vegetable dishes as part of their diet.
If you don't have the microbiome to digest plants, it may be a problem.
But studies always focus on Western people and that is not representative of the whole human species.
Not saying oxalate is not a problem. Just saying they need global studies.
Studies focus on Western people because that's where the majority of scientists have been present. If other races want to conduct their studies, nothing is stopping them.
Fully agree, neanderthal dna could be the issue
The "food" in the USA is not the same as other places. It's basically poisoned
Almonds are being used by people and wrestlers especially in South Asia from centuries, and they found nothing wrong in almonds but tons of benefits. Point is: This kind of medical Researches are usually flawed. If you study history of this kind of Researches of past 100 years; you will see 100% contradictions. Once Egg was a big culprit for heart disease and today they say that egg is great. Once they used to say that Butter is very bad fat and today they say: butter is great. Cholesterol used to be a Bigggg Criminal but today they tell: that Cholesterol is indeed friendly as it repairs damaged lining of arteries, and during that repair, artery become narrow. So culprit is not Cholesterol but inflammation. There are hundreds of examples for such contradictions. Not all but most of Medical Researches on Food are mere guesswork.
*Important is:* diversify and be moderate in all kinds of foods, control weight BMI, be stress free, and be active/exercise/walk, and that is key to good health. In the light of centuries old use of Almonds; I will classify all that Research Flawed which tells that Almonds are bad
Check who made this studies
I've been eating most of those foods for years, and I'm super fit and healthy at 58.
Sixties. Practically my entire diet is made up of those foods. I can't stand cooked greens, but love uncooked spinach.
Maybe its the pesticides interacting with the oxalate that are doing people in?
Same
I also eat an oxalate rich diet, vegan, love red beets, baby spinach in salads and almond milk with everything. My kidneys are fine. It maybe helps that I avoid salt and drink water. I don't like eating dry, hard foods. Soups, smoothies, light foods, easy to digest, very little protein.
Thank you for making a short video I never can watch the ones that are more than eight or nine minutes. Thanks very much for the short concise information thumbs up from me
I started eating almonds to avoid snacking on 'junk food' and also raw spinach. Started having kidney and bladder stones. Later a urine test showed oxalates and I did the research and cut out those foods.
Also having quite strong kidney pain after snacking on almonds frequently for past 3 months.
@@TomeRodrigo almonds are one of the highest oxalate foods.
@@rockstarofredondo Yes, completelly got rid of almonds from my diet. Haven't been eating them like 5 months now.
Thanks for the video! I am eating an animal based low oxalate diet and i seem to be dealing with dumping issues. Urethra irritation is a big one that maybe oxalate dumping that I am dealing with. Please keep this kind of videos coming!
I have had bladder pain for years - the only relief I have is taking D-Mannose (I used to only have to take it every few days, now I have to take it daily, sometimes multiple times a day). I'm now pretty convinced my bladder pain is due to oxalates, along with my all-over body pain, skin rashes that won't ever go away, and possibly even my menstrual migraines and fibroids. The doctors here in America are terrible - I just went to one and she refused to do an ultrasound on me for a chronic uterine pain that I keep having, and when she recommended a CT Scan - my insurance company denied coverage because it wasn't "medically necessary". So I'm on my own now. Thanks for these informative videos!
The bladder pain could be "chronic pelvic pain syndrome" Search around on youtube, theres a channel called "Uptown Mike" that talks about it a lot. I had symptoms for 6-8 months and they want away in 2 days with the right stretches.
My youngest daughter has the same issues. She’s on D mannose and a certain cranberry tablet the urologist prescribed. I never really had any UTIs or bladder problems but her dad had kidney stones and was recommended low oxalate. I on the other hand, am experiencing severe joint and muscle issues I’m now convinced is related to oxalate.
Wow! I agree with you about our medical system. It sucks. They don’t seem to know much of anything, especially when it comes to autoimmune diseases. I had a rash that the dermatologist could heal in 1 1/2years. I finally just stopped going, because what was the point. Insurance companies play the doctor instead of letting the doctor decide what we need. This is just wrong! I hope you get the relief you need. I seem to have oxalate dumping, too, sadly.
Sally Norton book on Oxalates is fantastic
I’m doing a distilled water only way of life now been doing it for almost a month 2 weeks and I started feeling the effects of oxalate dumping and I am starting to take care of it but only after I ended up with gout in both knees which are weak joints over the years. I’m in a lot of pain. I even feel like I got glass shards inside my vulva! Keep going to the bathroom so much I’m here to relearn everything that I thought I knew from 2016 when I started cutting back on oxalates, which started my dumping originally. Who knew that distilled water only way of life could re-create oxalate dumping all over again.😢
I felt the same since I was diagnosed as a diabetic changed my diet to more greens..my vulva was cracking.. but just thought its old 63..wow..started oiling it with coconut and castor oil..then my fingers were painful like they had stones inside..so decided to eat more goat meat..
@@hakilahmbiri875How you doing on the goat meat, I'm going to try it because I struggle with digesting beef. But cope well on lamb
Trying the carnivore way now (with some minor amount of fruit) and so far my gut and eczema seem to be doing lot better. I don't believe in veggies anymore.
same. Eggs are great source of vitamins and protein and easy to digest. Except on cheat days every now and again I go gluten free dairy free that helps for me but you might be ok. I dont eat many veggies anymore either occasionally carrots and broccoli thats cooked but mostly fruit protein and gluten free snacks.
For years, I've been told of the benefits of an all plant diet. Perhaps Ben Franklin was right in that moderation may be the key to the near ideal diet.
I heard that, too, and tried eating mostly plants several times. Every time I felt worse than ever. I was left not knowing what to do because it seemed the vegetables were causing me to feel awful. I’d never heard of that. I’m now on Carnivore and have discovered that I have oxalate dumping and potentially histamine intolerance. Hopefully, this diet will help, but probably not until these oxalates come out.
Thank you. Explains why eating my greens always made me feel unwell and got worse the more I tried to increase vegetable intake. After numerous tests, a Gastroenterologist told me to limit or avoid fruit and veggies.
@Ahestetics really bad microbiome from years of antibiotic overuse.
It destroyed my gut also was doing Raw food diet
What the hell is safe to eat anymore it's getting ridiculous may as well starve to death.
@Ellena369 look into carnivore diet or variations that incorporate more meat. Very difficult if vegetarian, but heard testimonials from many channels that carnivore heals vegetarians with declining health.
@@Magnetar11nova Ty.♥️
This week I have seen videos that say dark green vegetables are bad for me, Olive oil is bad for me, fat is bad for me, sugar is bad for me, tuna is bad for me, caffeine is bad for me, processed foods are bad for me........ should I end it all now or wait until my diet does it?
Yeah, right? Geez. I’m beginning to think nobody knows what they’re talking about and it’s all about personal agendas.
Animal fat is great for you. Oil is bad for you. Canned tuna is bad for you but wild caught/fresh is better. Get the idea? Devils in the details.
Almost all plants today are man made. They do not exist in nature like this. Completely different. Just think about that.
Olive oil is ok to use but olives only a few .
... same what I thought, if you surf on YT after a year you cannot eat anything anymore. Fasting should be very healthy, but not if you quit eating forever. Maybe this is the key, to make fasting periods regularly, so that the body can get rid of waste. I must say I meanwhile believe, that humans know less nowadays than back, where they had to build up their toolset for foods and cooking over generations and manifest it by tradition.
I have had intermittent burning stools for years, patches on my skin more recently, an intense back itch that comes and goes for last year, my urine has been smelling more foul lately with more bubbles. i even had a mildly elevated creatinine a few weeks back but it went down after a recheck 2 weeks later. i had this random pain in the middle of my pink finger joint a few months back. overall, i always feel off. I am naturally a pretty heavy set person and i ended up using alot of dietetic foods that were high in oxalate in the process. for years i was having a low carb baked goods line up that was based on almond and soy flour. i would make protein drinks with almond milk, chocolate protein powder, a cacao (also has spinach in it) super greens powder, and sugar free chocolate syrup (literally an oxalate bomb). big tea drinker as well. i am pretty convinced my symptoms line up with my oxalate consumption,. ill be ruling it out in the next few weeks if this is really the issue.
I'm with you. My diet choices and general symptoms rhyme with yours. I've been eating huge salads and large amounts of mixed nuts for years and the past year I've been having strange symptoms all over the body; heart rate that won't come down for days; pains in joints; low energy and sex drive; hard time seeing when driving at night. There's more but that comes to mind immediately. Are you going to do carnivore? I'm two days in on carnivore. Also look former vegan of almost 10 years. The anti-meat propaganda really has done a number on me
@@ascendantMethEnjoyer be very careful going carnivore too fast, you don't want a rapid dump
@@ThomasMitche11 a couple of squares of Lindt dark chocolate a day will help when going carnivore. 😊
@@ladycactus110 exactly, that will prevent your body from going to crazy town. I switched too fast and after 5 great days I went straight to hell. I was using white bread because I thought wheat was high enough, but it's only like 5mg per piece, you would have to eat like 10 pieces to slow it down lol. Dark chocolate is way more effective.
@@ThomasMitche11 thank you. I'm day three and added in some macadamia nuts and clean chocolate but only a small amount. What's the consensus about cheese? Had a strong desire for it today and had some organic mozzarella and feta with my two meals which were eggs cooked but still runny. Any tips from your experience would be appreciated
Shared with family members thank you for those in depth and understandable videos Elliot you are doing great work.
12 years ago, I successfully managed to stop kidney stones from forming. But for the last 3 years I was getting sicker by the day. Luckily I found these articles. I slowly started to remove Oxalates from my diet, I had a fair amount of dumping problems. Every day I am feeling better, feeling better one day and not so much another. I had such "brain fog" I was having trouble functioning. Now my mind is starting to clear and the pain is getting less. I actually went to a Dr. But he did nothing. M thyroid is feeling better I am even getting my eyebrows back just a little. My dog's groomer got excited when she saw me (I am not heavy) when she saw me she could not believe how thin I look. I must have lost a ton of something because she said I look like I lost a lot of weight, it was just 3 lbs. I was told that may happen. I don't have kidney disease I just figure I have a storage of crystals. Whatever it is, unloading some oxalate is making me feel fantastic. Your videos are helping me understand all this. BYW I am over 70, I didn't know that was a thing till now. I think a big thing that is helping is I never drank milk or had calcium, now I have some at every meal. thank you
For those who still want green veggies: foods that are low in oxalates but high in vitamin K include mustard greens, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, mushrooms, onions, peas, and zucchini1.
Thank you. 🙏
Just boil the greens for 5-7 minutes and you get rid of 99% of oxalates.
I've been eating boiled parsley, which has over 1800mg/100g of oxalates for over 2 years now and I don't have any kidney or thyroid problems.
Im curious if this is the result of hybridized manmade veges
Also asparagus and I believe kale.
Ill stick to ribeyes, rare.
Superbly informative and helpful. You'll never know how much I appreciate this video and your other, paired with this one. I've subscribed.
Thanks to my high oxalate diet, I developed a kidney stone the size of damn near a nickel. Thank god I got it out but it was a harrowing experience I never want to go through again. Now I’m mindful of eating too much high oxalate foods. Moderation is key.
I'm ANGRY, VERY ANGRY that I trusted dietitians and google believing that Spinach, Tea, Almonds, organic peanut-butter and dark chocolate were good for me. For the past 5 years I've been religiously making my shake in the morning with as much Spinach as I can grab with my big hand, along with bananas, Almond milk, eggs, orange juice and a big spoon of peanut butter. And then after I eat lunch, I would eat lots and lots of almonds with my cup of black tea (leaving the teabag in) to my left. And then, at night, when I get any sugar cravings I would opt for a healthier alternative, PEANUT BUTTER again with a tiny bit of jelly. All my joints were inflamed, my eye sight recently started to worsen (couldn't read small letters anymore) my sleep is shit and my energy level was very low, even though I was going to the gym for the past 3 months. Then I heard about the carnivore diet and how plants are trying to kill us, so I started a 90% strict carnivore on 06/02/2023, cutting sugars completely and eating less than 10 grams of carbs per day. And If I cheated, I would choose the lowest oxalate veggie and eat very little of it after steaming it and adding butter. In 2 weeks, I was able to run the same way that I did when I was 17!!!!!! I ran so fast that only the tips of my toes were touching the ground (still had some knee pain left over back then). Now, in less than 2 months, I have lost 28 pounds, my knee pain, elbows pain, gum bleeding, shitty sleeping, low energy, bad eye-sight, brittle nails ALL GONE!!!!!!
The problem is, who are you gonna sue for this?????!!!! I got screwed over big time and there is no one to blame but the government. I know that I'm still going to get healthier each day, but those oxalates are dangerous and if you cut them out completely and abruptly, you could experience serious health complications due to fast oxalate dumping.
One doctor said that if you used to consume a lot of oxalates, then keep including them in whatever diet you choose to follow, but in very small amounts and reduce this amount over a few weeks or a few months before cutting them out completely.
That diet sounds disgusting. Blows my mind that people fall for it.
@@redrustyhill2 if you’re talking about eating meat and eggs, and staying away from other stuff, then I don’t know what to tell you 🤷♂️
I personally would rather eat disgusting food and be healthy than eat delicious junk food and suffer . I guess it’s a preference and everyone is free to eat however they like.
@@David-R. meat, eggs, dairy, potatoes, bread, some veggies, fruit in season, limited snacks of nuts is how my family has eaten for generations. Everyone has been healthy and lived long.
@@redrustyhill2 That sounds pretty good, and you are some of the lucky people that aren't having any bad reactions to any foods. I wouldn't call the carnivore diet disgusting however, I'd call it "Boring AF" lol.
some people like Mikhaila Peterson, and thousands of others, didn't find healing and comfort until they cut out everything but meat from their diet. Others used it as an elimination diet and slowly introduced some foods back to figure what was causing them issues (of course, sugars, processed foods, seed oils and carbs are out of the question). I'm personally having trouble going 100% strict. I was 99% strict for a little over a week and literally healed my gums that have been bleeding at a couple of spots for 3 years, same with the pain in my elbows and knees. My personal culprit was Spinach and sugars, I cut them out and the magic happened. As I'm typing this I'm having some meat, cooked with onions (for flavor) with plain Greek yogurt, I have strawberries and blueberries in my fridge that I'm going to have some of later. I made a shake with strawberries and heavy whipping cream with a half a spoon of honey. Not proud but I had to before trying to go stricter again. I still feel good and my inflammation is non-existent :)
Oh and lost 34 pounds in less than 2 month. I lost the bad weight, no muscle loss.
What's your blood type?
A few years ago I inadvertently gave myself an oxalate overload by juicing parsley and eating baby spinach. Soon I could hardly urinate and my urine as thick and cloudy. I quickly figured out what was wrong and I immediately cut back on oxalates. My symptoms subsided and I've been careful ever since. It turns out juicing only concentrates oxalates and both parsley and spinach are off the scales as far as oxalate content is involved. I want to learn more about the dumping symptoms. I know they can come and go. I've been experiencing skin blotches - it looks like someone has taken a needle and pinpricked the skin on my face. Then it disappears only to come back a few weeks later. it's quite bizarre. I actually don't mind if it means that I'm dumping oxalates.
Thanks for your supportive action orientated videos! Looking forward to the next one 😃
No oxalates in meat fish eggs or cheese. Go for it 😊
The best advice. Thanks.
How you season it though?
@@gangztah2010 Salt
Thank you so much for this information! On a side note, the TLO group is packed full of information but the moderators are not very pleasant.
Im not prone to kidney stones( knock on wood).
I had the audacity to tell a pharmacist to try lemon water + olive oil for her horrible kidney stones and to her credit she took the advice😊.
I’ve been dumping for 6 months. It’s getting better. I’m trying to slowly reduce dietary intake. Going cold turkey is too painful! Using a rebounder for a minute several times/day helps move oxalates through the lymph. D Mannose helps my bladder and aloe Vera juice helps the bladder and intestines, too.
So important! I had interstitial cystitis in the 70s. The doctor said I had pinpoint hemorrhages on the inside of my bladder, which I bet corresponded to oxalates crystals.
No doubt!
My oxalate problem was due to too much supplements (specifically 500 mg a day curcumin C3 complex for a year and some other supplements). I couldn't avoid it since I was taking it as a pain relief for a neck injury I had. That intake of curcumin created a kidney stone on my right kidney (curcumin is very high in oxalates). That stone is long gone now but I now have 24/7 pain in the low right abdomen area (close to the appendix) which is probably irritable large intestine or some kind of bladder infection. After 6 months of cutting milk products and taking some probiotic pills, its getting better. So, do not overdo it on taking vitamins/supplements. Take it easy.
I think lemon juice help in cleaning up this oxalate
Turmeric is high, but curcumin extracted from turmeric is actually low!
I am in the Facebook group trying low oxalate, they actually test foods and are in contact with a lab, join them and type in Curcumin, it's on the very low oxalate list, they tested it in their lab. I would highly recommend you join them, very interesting
I had a lower gut inflammation that became appendicitis (undiagnosed) 3 weeks ago. I fasted and it went away, no surgery. I was eating 1/3 of a bar of very dark (75-90%) chocolate for over a year. I think this caused it. Now I do have some residual light pain in that low right abdomen near the appendix and bottom of the rib cage. Wondering if this is all oxalate related and what else I should do.
@@TheBroLounge wow. I too was eating dark chocolate for many years now and to tell you the truth I was wondering if its appendicitis or not but the symptoms of an appendix bursting are different (sharp pain and off you go to the hospital)....so it's probably not that. It might be chronic appendicitis (yes, that exists as well), nerve related (but you must have back pain as well) or simply muscle aches. Is it deep or shallow pain? Mine is shallow and when the pain comes a simple hot/cold cream usually does the trick. Other things you can try is black cumin seed oil. That among with magnesium complex (500mg) and sometimes curcumin (but don't overdo it due to oxalates) seems to do the trick....also, the C3 curcumin complex is the lowest in oxlates so do not take anything else except that.
Thank you for your valuable work Elliot!
Thank you for this video. I’ve been suffering from these problems for 3 years. When I decided to go on a healthy diet, I consumed way too much oxalate foods. I experienced a sharp lower back pain, had blood in my urine and foamy urine. My useless doctor told me my pain has no physical cause. I think she was indirectly saying I’m making it up 😂. She even told me off like a child. Anyway, I had many tests and scans but no sign of any kidney stones. I’m relieved of course but confused. My kidney function tests always come clean. But I DO feel pain in my lower back, sometimes as a tingly pain in my “love handles” and if I eat more high oxalate foods it extends to where my kidneys are in my back. I’m worried this means damage to my kidneys, but confused as to why I’ve not had any kidney stones yet. Can anyone explain this? I of course avoid high oxalates, but sometimes I have them in small amounts and I instantly feel tingling in my lower back. So so frustrating!!!!! I think they are definitely affecting my joints more but I am terrified at the thought of kidney stones.
Yep. It is really painful. My oxalate overload created a massive amount of kidney stones in both my kidneys.
Vitamin C increasing urinary oxalates suggests perhaps it increases dumping and protects one from the damage consuming oxalates could cause. Im on the fence between giving up cacao or trying to find a work around I really don't have much in my life worth living for so it's really difficult to make dietary changes. I just got rid of coconut chips so my crunchy texture is gone they weren't digesting and showing up in my stool so im not left with much choice in regards to sweetened dessert type foods. I've come from a life of eating boatloads of carbs followed by desserts so I can't really change that I don't think just transition. Portion control was a big one as fibre rich foods objectively satisfied me due to the time it took to eat and the visual amount so moving to keto was difficult and went from eating tubs of almond butter as vegan keto to bags and bags of pistachios (full of mould now I know).
I know Stevia is suggested to affect quorum sensing but more definitive data is needed.
I wouldn't say I have ARFID but my sensory obsessions are borderline pathological probably stemming more from trauma than an arbitrary beheivhoural label such as autism. I think, having something foundational in an ever shifting biology is mostly responsible for routine obsession seen in autistics. It's a form of grounding
I started juicing after watching Nutribullet commercials. I wanted to be super healthy, so I would drink big green smoothie everyday. After doing this for a few months I started not feeling well, but I never thought it was the smoothies. My gut started hurting, I was bloating up and feeling so sick everyday to the point that I really thought I was dying. So I decided to stop juicing and eating plant based and just enjoy junk food till I die. Well after a few weeks of eating whatever I wanted I started feeling better. Binging a dummy I started back juicing again, thinking it will make me feel even better. After just a few days I was so sick again and that’s when it hit me it was the juicing making me sick. Two years later after stopping the juicing I’m still not 100% back to normal. Wish I had never juiced 😢😢😢
And the biggest question most of us have who have started reducing oxalate intake is what are the symptoms of oxalate dumping.
Now apparently these oxylates have been buried in our bodies for perhaps decades!! Has any body noticed when you go into "dumping" phase that your bowel movements are putrid and stink like its some dead creature being extracted from you? I don't mean to be gross, but can I have some feedback on this particular issue? If its buried in our bodies and comes out of the "grave" would this be why its odour is so toxic? Appreciate your comments!
Seems very unlikely that stinky s*** would have anything to do with oxalates. Have you recently upped your meat intake? That's far more likely the cause. The heavier load of sulfur containing amino acids in meat are metabolized by gut bacteria into very smelly sulfur compounds.
Good news for all those who've this holiday weekend had the courage and literally, the "intestinal fortitude" to end their vegan journey and start on their Carnivore KETO "Road Less Traveled:" The Porter House 12 Step Vegan Rehabilitation Facility, in conjunction with the Charles "Chuck" Delmonico Research and Policy Institute are teaming together to petition the American Psychiatric Association Committee on Nomenclature to consider possibly adding veganism to its list of personality disorders in the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
Very informative. I learned about this from doctor Eric berg almost a year ago and im still going through a waves of detox due to oxalates. I used to have greens drinks with raw spinach 3 to 4 times a weeks for almost 3 years and I got off all high oxalates as soon as I found out. The waves of detox become less and less over time but still after a year Im going through it.
So these symptoms of “oxalate detox” are completely new symptoms that you never once experienced until you stopped eating all oxalates?
@@freddygolzofficial4129 yea it took me a while to figure out what was happening I thought I was detoxing from something or maybe it was certain supplements I was taking. Had to go off everything and then came across a video explaining what oxalates do and it was the spinach smoothies I was making.
I’ve eaten mostly veg and fruit my entire life and I’m 74. Why am I not crippled or writhing in pain? I worked up until 6 months ago when I quit by choice because I wanted to do other things. So what gives?
Your gut biome seems then to tolerate it well. I can't tolerate most veggies and fruits... I can tolerate blueberries, avocados every once in a while, very few raspberries and cooked "to death" Brusselssprouts....that's it! ...I was vegetarian for almost 20 years ...the week I stopped eating vegetables my skin healed on my hands, knuckles, elbows and thighs...within 1 week.
@@connywonnie7971 Maybe I tolerate veg and fruit better because I’ve eaten a lot of dairy most of my life as my main protein source. I’ve heard that a diet high in calcium (through food, not supplements) tends to neutralize the oxalates in veg and fruit. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I guess it’s a good theory!
@@Sparkling-Cyanide that's interesting. I was watching Dr. Gregor and he did a video on blueberries and said not to have milk or dairy with blueberries as there was something in the milk that stopped the body from absorbing certain nutrients from the berries. Maybe you are right about dairy blocking the absorption of the oxalates. I have blueberries in a shake every night but add powdered milk to my oatmeal and fruit and nuts in the morning. My biggest problem is when I eat sprouts I get very tired. Nobody else seems to have this problem.
@@connywonnie7971 🤗
Because videos like this one are absolute rubbish.
We need to spread Oxalate awareness, like yesterday,… This is REAL, and with the proper education like this, we can live & feel better then ever 👊🏼
…Share this video with anyone you know who continuously consumes high Oxalate foods like I have for way too many years,… You will help that person(s) more than you know 🫶🏼
I'm wondering since the bladder tissue is sensitive to the effects of oxalates that the symptoms of urgency may be related to the irritation caused by the crystals?
That would be interesting to know.
Thanks for a very informative video. Some sites say boiling removes most oxicilates.
Im curious if this relates to many of those with arthritis in joints. If its the body attacking the accumulation of oxilates in joints.
There is so much directly conflicting information on high/low oxalate foods out there. An expert says blackberries, raspberries, peanuts are high, an online list says these are low. Where can i find an accurate reliable list.
Informative video thanks. As someone who often mixes spinach in smoothies it's a bit disturbing to learn of potential oxalate overload. I wonder what can be done to limit the burden if you already have oxalates in your system?
just gradually reduce and then go off the spinach and eat low oxalate foods now and again to avoid dumping process. make sure to taper off. Cut out as many high oxalate foods as possible and ride out the process. Its not fun its not pretty it comes in waves and its different for everyone in severity and frequency. Depends on how much your bodies able to tolerate how long you've been doing it for and how healthy you are overall. you'll get through it and the waves you experience will become less frequent and less severe and you'll know your headed in the right direction.
@@kevinfernandes1882 Very sound advice!
You can add calcium citrate to your diet, as calcium binds to oxalate to remove it from the body. However, for this purpose, don't take it at the same time as Vit. D since calcium will want to bind to the D rather than the oxalate.
Basically seems like all things in moderation, not necessarily banning these foods shown in the beginning.
Hi from Belgium. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to learning more about oxalates
Check out Sally K Norton videos.
@@ladycactus110 thanks 😀
Fascinating. I need to process and learn more. Thank you!
Istarted detoxing and i got extremely burning in my back and than tingling neuropathy hands and feet than muscle cramps..er couldn't find anything.. so i just kept going thinking it's detox but my kidney functioning was struggling and i kept getting pain .. I'm terrified now what can i do to repair and i have crystals in my urine as well
I have experimented with both a strict vegan and a carnivore diet. Even on a lower oxalate vegan diet I was having crazy joint pain in my feet, ankles, and occasionally in my knees. Went back to carnivore, and almost immediately there was no more pain. I’m done experimenting with the vegan diet.
I am doing a carnivore diet and this crap is coming out my eyes every night… gosh… so glad I stoped eating plants
What do you mean it’s coming out of your eyes?
@@lululove6175 oxalate.. feels like tiny sand
@@lululove6175 Fine white crust of oxalate. I though I had dry eyes.
Just give Thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ thru prayer before you eat anything you want or afford I trust in him to purify all your meals And also tell the Lord to guide you for the foods that he wants you to buy that you can eat. Remember always give tha 0:00 nks in every meals and everything that can harm. In financial as well as in health. In other words Trust in The Lord for every things. Blessings to all
Absolutely correct. Spinach and a handful of almonds in a smoothie will make my joints hurt with an hour and it lasts for days. It’s easily reproducible.
No doubt it gets worse with chronic exposure but I swear it doesn’t take much time to accumulate but rather within hours after an oxalate rich meal.
During my smoothie diet experiment, I also had my only stone formation.
I’m 100% certain that 90% of diagnosed arthritis is caused solely by oxalate and could be reversed with avoidance.
That said, Doctors fear creating orthorexic patients and will never suggest that patients avoid any “plant foods” regardless of the evidence.
What plants are okay? We all still need vitamins
@@BipolarBilly52
Frankly, there’s nothing in plants that you need which you can’t get from a whole animal foods diet. Vitamin C is the only possible exception because there’s only a small amount in meat. That said, you only need extra anti-oxidants if you have oxidative stress from eating plant foods that cause oxidative stress in the first place. eg. Oxidized seed oils, fried foods, carbs and sugars, alcohol etc. and other things people get inflammation from eating.
gluten can cause arthritis in some and high amounts of sugar as well
Orthorexia was invented by doctors as a gaslighting technique to silence people who are waking up to the fact that we are all eating poison. Just call them crazy. Please pass the twinkies.
Thank you for your research! I'm a "healthy" person. I eat many of the foods listed, and I often just learn about oxalates. I've been experiencing pain in my lower abdomen. Something is telling me it's related to oxalates; I've also consumed a lot of cranberries, which are moderate in oxalates in both pure juice and supplemental form. I'm going to PC this week. I'll try a low-oxalate diet as well. Since I've laid off the oxalate much of the pain has subsided
Thanks for teaching me about vulvodynia. I'm still trying to figure out if vaginismus could be worsened by oxalate, but it's not even well known about and is atleast partially psychological, so maybe not?
Oxalate is perhaps the greatest contributor to chronic vulva pain
Well I’m confused now having gone vegetarian for 7 years and developing an autoimmune condition PMR affecting the joints maybe I should return to meat eating? No idea how to get tested here in Sweden, they might never have heard about this😓
4th day on carnivore my urinary incontinence disappeared. I used to sometimes feel that I was peeing needles. Oxylate crystals? Who knew. Not my doctor, not my PA whose specialty is gyn, not the urogynecologist.
Me, too!
Finally someone knows what's wrong with me. Sharp things in my eyes and in my urinary track always coming out painfully. Makes you think you are close to death. I was using a lot of coconut oil all over and I'm vegatarian. My husband has it in his eyes too. He was using a lot of coconut oil too. He is not vegatarian but eats a lot of fruits, vegetables and nuts too. Can you lead me to the video we need to watch from here?
Ost fruit on low oxalate.
The low oxalate list has roumaine lettuce has 0 oxalate and watercress and rocket as very low its only chard and spinach thats very high.
Letuce also has very little nutrients
ooo!! so glad I saw this! I litterally had a burning poop yesterday and I thought it was because i wasn't managing my sulfur issues...I couldn't really figure out the reason. now I am thinking its from dumping. I am very worried about dumping because I am trying to get pregnant. Some people say dumping can cause miscarriages.
Listen to the interview Anthony Chafree had with Sally Norton. It's all about oxalates and dumping, and at one point she mentions something about breast feeding. It might be of importance to you
@@ascendantMethEnjoyer oh yeah i listen to him sometimes. although not often. I think he rambles too much.
Oxalates displace sulfur in their transporters, which might be what’s creating sulfur issues (along with low molybdenum downstream, preventing clearance of the displaced sulfur).
@@timothyTNM117 Thank you for this comment!! I had no idea!
My problem with oxalates started with a UTI, I took antibiotics and I didn’t take them correctly and I took them for a long time, for like five weeks. At the end, I didn’t have a UTI anymore but I still had lots of pain and I realized after months that it was because of this oxalate issue. Because the oxalate degrading bacteria in the digestive tract (oxalobacter formigenes) had also been wiped out by the antibiotics. I’m getting better but it’s taken about five months.
OK this explains to me why i have been eating a "high oxalate diet" for 14 years and never experienced any of the things on the list. I've never in my life had a urinary tract infection. And I take probiotics regularly for good gut health.
I think i have this issue bro i wish u have this issue and im alao getting better maybe
@@cryforthemoonBut how do you know it won't affect you in the future? It's a big risk to take.
What diet did you follow to get better?
Thanks for the great info. Can removing all carbs and oxalates cause gout-type symptoms? I think its oxalates but dr says its gout. Ive never had it before but it started a month or so in to carnivore diet.
Porked out on kale chips once, passed my first and last kidney stone. Never did that again; everything in moderation.
Carnivore formals or one year. Best decision of my life. Meat, eggs, water, butter/ghee, salt only things I eat. Blood chemistry PERFECT, sleep like a log every night, skin,nails and hair improved out of sight. Now weigh what I was at 21. Am 74 years old now.
The aches and pains I used to get from spinach was ridiculous. Now mostly carnivore and very rare to have pain
What's your blood type?
I had dumping and it was rough! I would say dont go too fast ! Even a cup of black tea can help reduce symptoms but cut them out of your life for sure!
I do the tea trick too when that happens.
I used to juice all sorts of greens..so glad I got off fruit and veggies..
I just found out that oxalates were contributing significantly to gouty joints. What is said at the end of the video is good practical advice. If the need to diagnose is not urgent, instead of the going through all the hoops and delays getting an accurate diagnosis, start by dialing down high-oxalate food. I did just that and it's a night-day difference. I reduced wheat and wheat germ products, spinach, chard, and anything with almonds. In the past, I was eating dark chocolate, blueberries, and having almond milk in my lattes. I remember eating a product sold at Costco that was chocolate covered blueberries, for heaven's sake. My mother, a gardener, would serve blanched purslane and chard in different salads. Purslane is high in oxalate. Just avoiding these things has made the stiffness in the joints disappear. I love sandwiches, but dropping bread and cold cuts (high in purines, not so much in oxalate) has helped as well.
So, can a moderate addition of greens and other oxalate foods, along with rotation of many different foods, be reasonable for people who don’t have obvious symptoms?
Around 15 years ago, I faced an unusual issue with my body. My entire body ached, especially my muscles, which remained persistently tense. Even the slightest movement, like flexing the muscles in my shoulder, felt as if they might shatter like fragile glass.
In the mornings, when I tensed my thigh muscles, an odd sensation akin to cracking would occur, followed by sudden fatigue.
Anyway, during that time, I consumed spinach regularly due to persistent constipation.
This mysterious discomfort persisted for approximately six months.
To this day, the cause remains elusive. However, I now suspect that my spinach consumption played a role. It wasn't until recently, while watching a RUclips video about oxalates, that I learned about their potential impact.
Could it be that what I experienced 15 years ago was indeed related to oxalates?
Highly likely. I'm putting 2 and 2 together now. Started eating huge green salads about 5 months ago for lunch. Giant. Tons of spinach, rubarb, etc. Mysteriously my lower back started hurting about 2 months into doing this and my body in general aches. My blood pressure has leveled out nicely, but my bladder is also irritated as a result of the high oxalate intake. Gonna moderate it.
Elliot do a video showing us what your diet is
I am not an "influencer" 😉
I see him at McDonald's down the street everyday
Ohhh good u saw that😆
So how many cups of Spinach is too much in a day? Or potatoes? The thing is a lot of these chelated foods are high in minerals that I need to sleep well at night. Supplements don’t cut it, nor does a carnivore diet.
I used to eat a lot of spinach and greens in daily green smoothies and ya I felt great on this health drink....now I only use the celery out of this smoothie in my very odd health drink....with apple juice and ginger
Does it give you enough potassium?
also broccoli 🥦 it’s okay and more recommended than spinach
Thank God for Naturopaths, because my MD thinks this is nonsense. My ND told me that she thought the chronic burning and pain my my feet and bladder were caused by oxalates and she backed that up with an observation that it might be the reason I have Hashimoto's and idiopathic systemic lymphedema, arthritis in my hands and brain fog. The MD's just keep telling me to lose weight and all my issues will 'go away', but can't figure out why I have lymphoedema and lipidoedema. I'm pretty sure that the basis of my health issues is a genetic intolerance to oxalates.
Very interesting information. Thank you so much.
I have had a continuous UTI for nearly two years now,I have lost count of the number of antibiotics I have endured,cystoscopy revealed nothing,it hurts like hell when I urinate and quite often for some time after,I am uncomfortable all the time,my bladder is constantly upset. Looking at this information I am wondering if my problems are linked,I was also diagnosed with ME three years ago and that brings it's own multiple unpleasant symptoms
Thanks so much,please help us on how to get rid of these oxalate crystals
Drink lemon water. It dissolves the oxalate crystals. Worked great for me.
There are a million different lists of high oxalate food on the internet. It is impossible to know what list to trust. For instance, I have seen blueberries as high oxalate and also as zero oxalate food. Same with potato. Is there a reliable list somewhere?
Thank you very much!
Understand that different varieties of one specific fruit/vegetable can have different ox levels depending in where it was grown.
That said, there ARE some consistent highs and lows. The only list I would recommend using is located on the TLO group
@@kae2678 Sorry, but your wrong on this.
A low OX diet = up to 50mg soluble oxalate per day
1/2 cup spinach RAW = 115mg soluble oxalate
1/2 cup cooked: 90mg
Just one serving is almost double the amount needed for a low ox diet. Here is another example:
1/2 cup of boiled malanga sweet potato = 41.6mg
Half a cup (a smill serving for just one meal) is essentially the entire amount of oxalate one could eat in the WHOLE day.
@@EONutrition Thank you Elliot. I cannot see that TLO list, unless I create a Facebook account (which I am unwilling to do). Could you please share the list here or on your website. Thanks a lot!
@@schnuppe0078 Here is a simplified list on this page www.lowoxalate.info/recipes.html
Download the "Oxalate status food chart"
That one wont provide you with the exact mg and soluble status. However the foods are designated very low, low, moderate, high, very high.
Negligible
Neg = 0mg
Very Low
VL = 0.1-2.9mg
Low
L = 3.0-4.9mg
Moderate
M = 5.0-9.9mg
High
H = 10.0-14.9mg
Very High
VH = 15.0mg & up
@@EONutrition Thank you so much, Elliot! That list is very helpful.