Bracing for a wild Spring Transfer Portal and Takeaways from Ohio State’s Spring Game
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Fox Sports’ lead college football analyst Joel Klatt explains why the upcoming Spring Transfer Portal has college football coaches around the country in a panic. He details why the lack of guidelines around transfers has caused this Portal window to become a leverage point for players. Klatt lays out his solutions to solve this unsustainable model for the good of the sport, its programs and its players. Joel then recaps his time at Ohio State this past week, including the buzz surrounding #1 overall recruit WR Jeremiah Smith. He also gives his takeaways from the Spring Game on FOX and his early thoughts on the Buckeyes in 2024. Klatt wraps up the podcast by answering mailbag questions including the story of when he and Dan Orlovsky faced off on the baseball diamond while at Detroit Lions training camp.
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0:00-1:46 Intro
1:47-26:04 Spring transfer window & how to fix it
26:05-33:50 Ohio State spring game recap
33:51-46:42 Mailbag
46:43-47:22 Outro
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Bracing for a wild Spring Transfer Portal and Takeaways from Ohio State’s Spring Game
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Not going to lie, Joel, you tell the best stories.
Agreed!!! That was great
i think this is easy to solve. make a rule that if you engage in NIL, it’s a contract. 2 year minimum. if you sign, you stay at LEAST 2 years.. Or split the payments up over 3 years. You get 1 maybe 2 NIL deals.
If you're talking about players taking money from the school's collective (which is not Name Image or Likeness), I agree on making players sign a contract. If talking NIL, a contract signed with a business (Nike, local car company), strong disagree on tying NIL money to a requirement to stay at a specific school. That agreement has very little to do with the school. The exception would be if the NIL deal is actually with the school (a percentage of the jersey sales at the school bookstore).
@@natestyron4830 A collective is NIL, its random people with ties to a school wether new a fan or a alum paying to see a certain player play for their team just how a brand would pay that athlete to untie their fans to buy that product. The only way this would be remotely legal is if the players were payed by the school and in tail the conference and NCAA.
That Dan O story is amazing!!
The spring game was fun. Loved the coverage Joel.
Great story, thank you for always sharing
The only thing Nick Saban is worried about is now other college programs can do what he has done for years at Alabama, paying players. Taking away his advantage in recruiting.
Saban isnt worried about anything but playing golf, he retired.
I always just click right away on klatt hes great content and keeps it all the way real... Also whomever lands RB Dallan Hayden will get a great back I wish the best for him cuz he will be a 1 RB alot if places and hes quick and good vision hooebhe geta better at pass pro
Great story, Joel! Hope you have some more?
Definitely good on schools like Ohio state getting the spring game done. That way they really have more time for players that do transfer out to possibly pick up someone else who probably hasn’t even done their spring game. Oh well college sports aren’t about fun/enjoying the game and playing for scholarships it’s all about how can the consumer be bled for money…
That applies to all companies that sells products. They all bleed us dry. 😅
This whole thing is relatively new. At some point, players are going to realize transferring in and of itself isn’t the best thing for their careers, and/or the people who fund NIL are going to see acquiring transfers in and of itself isn’t that beneficial.
But for now, players and the financial movers n shakers are still experimenting. Obviously the NCAA is a massive joke and that doesn’t help anything either. Maybe they’re hoping someone else advocates for more controls so they can regulate without looking like the bad guys, but I doubt it
Great job Joel love the channel and the content.
I had baby #2 only 17 months after baby #1. It was a much bigger change, now i only have time to myself at work or after bedtime(and half that is cleanup from the day). Hardest part is finding time for my wife and i by ourselves.
Wait the years out it get better!
That Orlovsky story was awesome Joel!!!
Joel, always spot on.
Joel actually has some great ideas
No one is transfering out, QBrs are battling, WRs are also getting play time, but I could see Ohio state getting other players, I could see some BIG defensive players coming knowing a lot of the defense is older
College football also needs clear punishments along with capped NIL and what you paid out could be a great and much needed foundation.
If a school is caught tampering then they should be losing that recruit as well as a reduction in their NIL cap, hefty enough to deter those practices
Collectives are the issue. Not NIL.
Trying to cap what players can earn from NIL is the same as banning it. It's illegal.
As a die hard WOLVERINE fan, that osu team is crazy stacked at all positions. Looking forward to spring game in Ann Arbor. GO BLUE
They stole Michigan's strategy of using NIL to keep their starting upperclassmen on the team for another season. Plus seeing Michigan win a Natty drove their program and fan base crazy, so now their NIL Program is on a triple dose of steroids.
Your spring game was horrible. Plus where was everyone? Worst follow up to a natty I’ve ever seen
Don't vote blue or your state might get sold to China.
Joel for NCAA College football president!
Where did you get the hat?
I can't wait to experience this when the new College Football game comes out. Two transfer portals and recruiting along with trying to make the 12 team playoff.
At the end of the show, smart man 😂
What would be the fairest and cover up a lot of other concerns is a salary cap. It would even the playing field and it would limit transfers.
Nice job Saturday, Joel. Go Bucks!
How about GO BLUE!!!
Maybe No. 2 defense behind Michigan.
Michigan will be the model for how far can you go on just defense.
If the defense was behind Michigan's then wouldn't they be like 4 or 5?
Behind bars?
Who is Sherrone Moore hiring to replace Connor Stalions , so they can tell the defense and offense which plays their opponents are calling before the ball is snapped?
@@roris5882how much does OSU have to spend to buy a Natty? lol you still crying about the exact same thing Ryan Day was doing?
There definitely needs to be some sort of contract between everybody and the agents need to be regulated much more. Go Cougs!
Agreed the sport is just gonna become a even bigger monopoly then it already was. The big time booster schools are just gonna pluck all the talent from the smaller programs then discard their players who didn’t pan out for the smaller to fight over like scraps.
Is OSU playing flag football this coming season? Not tackling during the game seems really weak on a national stage.
We don’t care what everybody thinks. We spent a lot on these guys and we want them healthy. This season will be extra long
Let’s face it….this is what soft teams do…..sissys
Who will be the negotiator for this CFA? The NCAA? The B1G and SEC with ACC too? Hard to picture who will have best interests of players and colleges together.
The football and basketball players in each conference should create their own separate player unions for each revenue generating sport, so they can negotiate for their player's fair share of what they generate. Then the conferences can pay all their players the same base pay, to bypass Title IX , for the regular season, with bonuses for years in the program and championship/bowl/playoff games. The star players would still be allowed to receive NIL in the form of endorsement deals.
thinking two undergrad and one grad transfer window is achievable. What you propose is too restrictive on players and essentially what is was. One transfer window during first week in May with actual transfers allowed afterward only in May. Remember that most northern schools hold later spring practices than southern schools given colder versus hotter weather.
that dan orlovsky story had me dying 😂😂
I cant see the SEC AND B1G letting this go for too much longer before they decide enough is enough. If the NCAA isnt willing to put a stop to it, then its time for the Power 2 to form an alliance with its own leadership structure, and maybe Mr. Klatt, you could be a voice of reason that helps head it in the right direction.
Transfer Portal is essentially Free Agency. NFL doesn’t allow free agency but once per year. The same should be the same in college. In fact, colleges should be allowed to require a NIL contract be signed by the player for multiple years for the money a player receives, which would prevent them transferring out during the contract.
This seems like the likely next step, either way we need some guard rails. We're in the wild west right now because the NCAA drug its feet and didn't set up guidelines for this before the dam broke.
Free agency isn't even once per year players sign contracts
NIL is a sponsorship contract not a playing contract.in order for what you do to be legal the school would have to pay the players directly and not just using NIL money using all revenue like how real pro sports are
@@cameronbolden5064 The conferences will probably pay their football players directly to bypass Title IX. The players in each conference will probably be represented by a separate player's union because they each generate a different amount of revenue from their media agreements. So each player in the conference would receive the same base pay, for the regular season, and would get paid extra bonuses for years in the program and bowl/championship/playoff games.
If there is no enforcement, what’s to stop them from transferring even if the window isn’t open?
What did you think of Air Noland ??
Anyone else say "it was an epic day" out loud during the intro like it's a lyric to a Snoop song ?
Pimento bogey hat is clean
Even though i disagree with what joel says sometimes, i love the fact that hes a great human and a great father. Hes the best in the business, and he deserves everything great that comes to him.
You disagree, because you don't know wanything
@@wack8589 😂 so joel klatt is right about absolutely everything? Hmmm... nope. He's great, but not that great. Don't be a hater.
I think it has a very nice impact on teams like OSU who has already had there spring game lol absolutely huge
Thoughts on the transfer portal make a ton of sense. Even with some modifications, what is the likelihood that the NCAA will have the backbone to make the changes?
Just have the transfer portal in the summer. Its weeks long so plenty of time for kids to find new teams. Also gets spring games out the way so kids know if they near making the team.
Joel should be the head of college football and implement all of this.
So if a kid takes an NIL before this point in spring and then moves to another school in the next transfer window for a bigger paycheck, are they double dipping and getting paid in advance by programs that they don't even end up suiting up for?
Depends on the nature of the agreement. Often there will be conditions like autograph signing and similar events to be paid in full, but it’s possible to get some money from one deal and take another without consequence
They all have contracts, and I would assume that the people writing these checks have clauses that invalidate them if a kid transfers. Nobody is paying full contract value to these kids before the season even starts.
Everything mirrors the professional ranks: Spring Football = OTAs, Transfer Portal = Free Agency. College football is just state-sponsored professional sports. Go ahead and professionalize it and move forward.
No Pain
No Gain
Joel I don’t understand how fall portal opening is an easy fix? They need to be abel to make their decision and enroll for the spring semester before school starts which is normally around Jan. 10. You cant wait until after the season to open the portal.
Henderson and Judkins are a great 1-2 punch.....however, Henderson seems to get injured, maybe it was due to carrying a lot of the load....if they're healthy they're good.....but i don't think they will be.
Refine the fire in these young men! Love it Joel Isaiah 48:10
What’s up brother☝🏻
Have it so every player has one transfer and another transfer if their coach leaves. And then have the old system of the transfer if a student has already transferred once
He likes collective bargaining but doesn't like the word "unionize." A century later and we still feel the effects of Old King Coal. Don't let words be naughty Joel.
Unions are good for a short time. Then, it eats itself.
Good on player agents just another way to send players to there friends at an agency
Even with a revenue share, there are still a lot of legal questions that need to be answered.
Every school knew when the portal was open. Adjust your spring football dates.
It is NOT every single player, free agency during the portal. If these schools are doing something correct, they should be locking in players for specified time if they take an NIL deal.
You can't blame schools because they have to work around the weather!!! You also want to have people come out and create buzz so you want the best weather possible. It's now starting to get warm around the great lakes.
its simple.
If a player Went to a specific school because of an NIL deal with said school. if that player leaves that school at ANY POINT. that player MUST pays back/ Give back ALL of the NIL money they got for committing to said school.
also LIMIT how much money a single STUDENT ATHELETE gets per year, who already has EVERYTHING paid for them
- 75k max PER Student athlete
its wild that HIGH SCHOOLERS are getting MILLIONS to come to a certain school because of NIL. and not academics.
NIL needs to be taken away and restructured and then reimplemented the right way
I'M ALL FOR IT. THE EARLIER THESE PLAYERS UNDERSTAND & EVOLVE INTO PROFESSIONALS. THE EARLIER THEY MATURE. AND DON'T FIND THEMSELVES DOING "DUMB" THINGS OFF THE FIELD IN THE "PROS". HOPEFULLY!!!!
No noise about Jay Toia
Coaches need to hold the line on their own
Icould see one of the Ohio State QBs getting in the portal. Maybe one of the Texas QBs as well... maybe a top QB who already transferred in the post season and will do so once again
Yeah, I expect that Lincoln is heading to the portal, even if the rumor that he IS moving to Iowa originated from a podcast saying that Iowa OUGHT to be chasing him.
Yea, they’re definitely gonna want to keep the freshman and Will Howard. Devin Smith is also being talked about but Lincoln? I’ve heard nothing on him so I do expect he might leave
@@calebleeson5662 Every time they say, "it's a long season, we are going to need the depth", it is in part saying to Devin Smith, 'you KNOW that you are likely to start some games this season even if you are not the game 1 QB1.' But Lincoln could easily see QB2 being knocked out of action just when QB1 is ready to come back -- the 'long season, we will have some QB runs, you still might start' argument has a lot less traction with QB3.
Revenue share? No, the schools with the better network deals would have their bigger revenue sharing budget. Thus, all the best players will go to the conferences with the bigger revenue budget.
Revenue sharing is not the way to go!
There is the risk of the SEC and B10 moving further away. That is a risk, but the best players have always gone to the places that spent the most. Used to be the facilities and money under the table, now it’s NIL.
Revenue share just brings transparency and control to that process
Thing about collective bargaining: right now the schools are not aligned in the same way as the NFL/pro sports leagues are. So for example revenue sharing - teams are already hopping conferences to gain a share of a larger revenue pie. So until the suits at the top of the conferences are willing to agree to play nice in their own sandbox, and sacrifice their own money for a more stable landscape, you can’t ask the players to do it.
Until then, you end up in a world where the “players share of revenue” in the SEC is more appealing than the BigXII for example.
And don’t let the TV/media fool you - they’re making money hand over fist off these kids too. They will likely push back on having to “pay more to offset” their part.
Tl;dr the suits are a bigger problem than the kids.
Unless the coaches have the same rules the players are going to have this power
Ohio still soft af, playing two hand touch in their spring game 😂
My favorite pod. Go Blue! Natty Gang 😊
Cheaters gang, the championship ring are say cheat code on them. 😂
@@SovereignInvestments 15-0 Undefeated NATIONAL CHAMPIONS, something OSU has never done. Seeing Harbaugh hoist that trophy was amazing. Good luck this year, hope the donors didn't waste all that money they spent trying to buy a championship LMAOOO
@@HyzersGR The first CFP national championship against Oregon 🤡 you truly are a clown
@@HyzersGR If you comment idiot know your history. With ttun every 50 years natty 😂 yall the first one to do in the cheaters national championship 😂
@HyzersGR Matter of fact we did it in 2002 and in 2015 before yall did it this year. You have to be by far the dumbest person on the planet.
I don't think transfers are the problem and it might be impossible to limit -- courts view transfer limits as blocking the ability of players to maximize their potential value. I think NIL spending is the real threat. We need a carefully designed tiered (by conference) NIL cap. A cap wouldn't stop players from maximizing their values, but it limits the growing disparity between schools with boosters and schools with filthy rich boosters.
You're probably the first person I've come across who has given anything in the way of a thought-out solution to the NIL gripe.
The disparity between spending on coaching staffs and facilities went unabated so I doubt the schools who are privileged by NIL would just willingly accept caps on NIL.
The only structural change that will change this would be to abandon amateurism and sign contracts
@@RD-wg9emwhich then makes them pros and not student athletes so why would they ever have to leave a team? If they know they can’t play in the NFL why not stay at Georgia until your 30 as a contracted worker for the university. It’s a slippery slope
@@cjboyer4355 tying elicit to academic status would prevent it. To me it’s just ripping through the looking glass. The ncaas insistence that these guy cannot be professional in a multi-billion dollar enterprise led to this.
The insistence on retaining amateurism for football keeps leading to stopgap solutions.
NIL isn't the issue. The issue is collectives.
joel's proposed transfer limit feels like its far too restricting on kids and once again giving all the power to the coaches who can leave whenever they want. Maybe an option can be to have transfer opportunities part of the NIL money negotiation? or maybe you get 2 transfers to use whenever they want?
Where is the picture of the Buffalo?
Thumbs up for "gain" and "pain".
As a Michigan and Oregon fan, Ohio having chip kelly as an OC is concerning
Why 😂
As a buckeye fan, I love it.
He's the best offensive mind in the game today.
Joel klatt try not to turn CFB into the nfl challenge(impossible)
The only thing I would add is if their coach leaves they should be allowed to transfer again
That would count as your 1 time under grad transfer u don’t get an additional jus cause your coach left
I agree with the 2 transfer opportunities but I also think if a coach is fired or leaves then the players should have an opportunity to also leave as well. It’s not fair a coach recruits these players & leaves. Now all of a sudden this new coach completely changes scheme & the only reason he doesn’t want the players to leave is because they might go to the competition but had no plan on using them is not fair. Also a union might not be fair as well. Most college kids are out in 3 years. By the time they really understand the college politics they’re graduated or left. What power do they actually have? Can they strike? One season missed by college students is career altering (maybe they get it back like the COVID year but that is a dilemma in itself). Also a huge problem are decisions made by 18 year olds now will impact college students for generations. As a former 18 year old who made horrible financial decisions ie college loans. I just don’t think sound judgment is always there at that age.
But who is going to administer your suggestions? That is the elephant in the room!
At this point why do schools even have to bother enrolling these “student athletes”? Just call them what they are…mercenaries for hire to represent a logo/name. Pay for them with 100% ad revenue and take it completely out of “education”. It really has become a joke
Some of players that enter the portal will be out of a scholarship in May and not find a school to play for.
The question is which one of Noland and sayin are gonna transfer? They definitely ain’t both staying
Noland will. Sayin is far ahead of Noland at this point. That's been the case all camp and after the spring game. I don't see Noland being too appreciative of Ohio St doing what they did.
Why would either of them leave? They are still competing for a starting spot next year. Sayin came in with Noland already in the class already and Noland looked a little better in the live scrimmage.
@@NateBee whichever one wins the starting job next year the other one is leaving 100% lmao, they’re in the same class and the one who doesn’t win the job isn’t just gonna rot on the bench his whole career 😂😂😂😂😂
When I was a student i could transfer anytime I wanted, I just had to finish the semester to complete my units and make sure I made a decision by the transfer enrollment period ended
The coaches and schools should have absolutely nothing to do with what NIL deals the student athletes sign. A player going to the coach and asking for more money tells me that college sports are dead as we have known them.
You can say the transferring are hurting the players in more cases than helping them.. transferring twice in 3 months can’t be healthy for a player
I didn’t hear nothing for the coaches 🧐
I absolutely love JK.
Ohio Soft University is the only take away. That was not a football game. That was a pillow fight.
I’m with orlovsky roll gaels
I disagree on the transfer limit idea. I do think there should be a limit, but it should be one transfer per year and then correct all of the transfer portal schedule debacle.
Try one transfer per career
@@erikwill2891 pretend they’re not an athlete, are they only allowed to change colleges one time? Just clean up the timing windows and if a guy wants to transfer once per year at the start of a season why shouldn’t they be able to?
Nick tried to tell ya'll. But everyone said he only cared because he couldn't have control.
Strangely I think this may work in the coaches favor. Why would I want you on my team and at our school?
Shocking, ohio has top notch skill position players and hired a top coach as a coordinator and are being hyped preseason as the best team in cfb. Same story year after year. How has that worked out last 3?
As a Buckeye I gotta agree, I’d rather we weren’t praised and didn’t get the attention. It does us no favors
Daddy here now
Ohio state defense will be elite ransom and downs will be the best safety duo in the nation defense will be great judkins should be a the starting RB and everything will be on will Howard
Ransom fell down on every big play 2 years ago against Michigan and Georgia
@@robertphillips4918so because 2 years ago a player can’t progress ?
Make Nick Saban CFB Commissioner
What’s happening with portal chaos and the new EA College gaming platform. Players & their schools are gonna be software nightmare?
Revenue is already shared, football is funding all other collegiate arhletes scholarships.
If im WINK, I don't play Grant, Graham,Stewart, Will Buffs Johnson, Paige, D Moe, Q J, More than 3 series tops. All NFL READY 😊
The problem with restricting movement is that it is always one sided. You are not even hinting at restricting movement of coaches from ping ponging across the country. Players in college are never there very long to start with and coaches are paid like and treated as the indispensable part of the winning equation that will define a university’s success. Under contract coaches leverage leaving for more money every year but players must be restricted from moving limiting their negotiating position?
The power has shifted too far towards the players at this point. There needs to be some control exerted to lessen the leverage of players, to make things more equitable. NIL + Transfer Portal is destroying College Football imo
"it's a windy day" you did not 😂. Go blue
Friendly Amendment: Players get an additional transfer if their head coach leaves the program.
So basically...CFL? College Football League
Ohio state has paid a lot of money for this team
How would you know you are just a complete nobody 😂
@@pJ-us2vl You just have to use your brain. You don't keep most of your roster and bring a bunch of high profile transfers without spending big in the portal era of today
@@pJ-us2vlLane Kiffin outted Ohio State about their spending on X a couple months ago and that was a couple months ago. He said something like 13 million then
All of the schools are paying big money what is the point?
@@calebleeson5662 That was a click farming account he retweeted that used what Ryan Day said over 2 years ago about what it would take to keep that current roster together in the current era. You aren't very smart are you?
All this talk of collective bargaining and etc will definitely 😢end up in one result higher education cost for those that can’t win a scholarship which is most of the country. Of course maybe they can get lucky and have their school debt forgiven.