Bitcoin Rap Battle Debate: Hamilton vs. Satoshi (BITCOIN GIVEAWAY) [feat. EpicLloyd, TimDeLaGhetto]
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2019
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Alexander Hamilton and Satoshi Nakamoto engage in a battle rap debate on the merits of centralized and decentralized currencies. What do you think? Let us know in the comments below for a chance to win bitcoin. (Yes, we’re serious.)
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[HAMILTON]
Before we begin, everyone do me a favor,
And read a little thing I wrote called the Federalist Papers.
I explain how a nation’s unlikely to survive
Without a strong central government to keep it alive,
When I launched the central bank, Jefferson called me ill,
Now you have my face to thank on every ten dollar-bill.
When America was cash-strapped, I pushed past that,
Now some sicko makes crypto and our nation backtracks?
[SATOSHI]
Decentralized currency. Yes, I invented it.
I’m sure many governments wish they had prevented it
Their national cash is how they keep control,
But freedom to the people was my ultimate goal.
Am I a pseudonym? A group of men? It doesn’t even matter.
I invented Bitcoin cause fiat is a disaster.
A man from Japan or a damn hologram?
I’m the reason open season on crypto began.
[H]
Does anybody know what this crypto-thing means?
To me, sounds like the new Get Broke Quick scheme,
A bunch of fools from across the land
Investing in something they don’t even understand,
Buying Litecoin, Dash, Bitcoin Cash,
It’s all gonna crash, and be gone in a flash.
All this unsupported money’s an irrational prank,
And I’ll be laughing all the way to my National Bank.
[S]
Hahahahahah, yeah dude, super funny,
As if banks these days still helped people make money.
The rich get richer and we follow like we’re all sheep,
The banks serve Wall Street, crypto serves all streets,
The interest in crypto’s on rapid ascent
What’s your current interest? Half a percent?
I’m sorry, the bank’s gone past its peak
But I want info encrypted, not hacked and leaked.
[H]
If this crypto system will be our salvation,
It needs to be centralized, needs regulation.
If our central database gets… how you say, “hacked?”
Insurance will just make a case to get your money back.
‘Cause in fact, it’s tracked, and the money leaves a trail.
Central currency is strong, cryptocurrency is frail.
Untraceable money - wow, so clever.
One typo in your address? Now it’s gone forever...
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CAST
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Host: Gift of Gab / Blackalicous
Alexander Hamilton: EpicLloyd
Satoshi Nakamoto: TimothyDeLaGhetto
Hamilton posse: Will “V” Randolph, Kaila Love
Satoshi posse: Adesha Adefela, Johnny Rice
Satoshi rappers: Lesley Toche, Michael “Inverse K”, RyanNicole, Ari “Hashbrown”, Frak
Delegates: Ash Hicks, Kaiy Watts, Rachel Morrison, Carlos Andrickson, Kimberly Hollkamp, Edward Ewell, Rodney Jackson, Marcelo Pereira
Special guests:
Adam Back
Amanda Natividad
Anthony Veneziale
Atul Joshi
Ayliffe Brown
Ben Davenport
Brian Bland
Charlie Lee
Debbie Sterling
Dizaster
Dylan Field
Elena Nadolinski
Erik Torenberg
Illmac
Ivan Cash
James Prestwich
Jessica Scorpio
Josh McFarland
Laura Shin
Lily Liu
Meltem Demirors
Micky Malka
Mike Belshe
Pat Stay
Reid Hoffman
Sam Altman
Shadi Mehrein
Sonja Perkins
Soona Amhaz
Teo Casares
Theo Hollingsworth
Vinitha Watson
Wences Casares
Yuqing Fan
Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn
CREW
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Executive Producer: Reid Hoffman
Producers: Ian Alas, Beau Lewis
Writers: Reid Hoffman, Ian Alas, Frak, Beau Lewis, Seth Brown
Director: Beau Lewis
DP: Peter Furia
Music: AMS www.soundcloud.com/amsbeats, Will “V” Randolph
Mix/master by: Fai, Deep H20z
Assistant Director: Frak
Assistant Producer: Theo Hollingsworth
Camera: Tyler McPherron
BTS camera / edit: Steve Flavin
Gaffer: John Dannenfelser
Grip: Donovan Gats
Art department: Jackie Scott
Art department: Paul B
Costume: Tatiana
Walkies: Patrick Dunnam
Casting: Ken Savage
Slate: Tyler Lim
PA: Sharissa Wright
PA: Kalani Ruidas
Special thanks to Erik Torenberg, Alexandra Weiss, Elisa Schreiber, Kaitlin Durkosh, Greg Beato, Saida Sapieva, David Sanford, Fernando Gallegos, Ryan Galvan, Khristian Hernandez, Miguel Hernandez, Andrew Montesano, Rachelle Diamond, Ivan Cash, Conrad Kisunzu, Charles Morgan, Travis “Organik” Fleetwood
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Hamilton definitely depositing the goods and looking fresh in a powdered wig. Bitcoin has sparked the interest though hmmmm....might need to make some calls.
ERB wow I’m first also Lloyd was in the video
We're happy no one got shot! Thank you for keeping it peaceful AND rigorous mr Hamilton - and for dropping some Aaron Burr / Milk commercial knowledge in the Behind the Scenes... you guys know who directed that video?
You should do Hamilton in one of your episodes. Like Alexander Hamilton vs Adam Smith
He started retreatin' and readin' every treatise on the shelf...regarding bitcoin.
Nice job! I’m definitely in the Bitcoin camp. In code we trust.
In defense of Hamilton, when he helped establish the banking system it wasn't fiat currency, it was gold backed.
good point
Silver*
@@chris0000924 the coins were made on silver it self , bills had a weigh in gold
The gold standard was a nightmare and just saying "iT cOnTrOl iNfLAtIoN" while not allowing monetary policy to be executed properly makes the gold standard one of the worst economic ideas ever, also not to mention how even though inflation under the gold standard was low, prices in the short term deviated insanely, do your research
@@phaartt
Fud
This is proof that Epic Lloyd would've *KILLED IT* as Hamilton in the musical!😄
My daughter loves that show...so I sent this one to her. She knows how I'm invested on crypto too which makes this better lol
@@daniellee8162 Lol that is pretty awesome, man!
@@daniellee8162 as a central governament lover you got the sticker of good mom
ok
Nope
I can appreciate how tough this must have been to make because you must understand crypto, fiat, and rhythm to put this all together.
Gotta love the Eastern vs Western philosophers erb battle: "It's the method, man"
OMG IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT THAT!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEE
Made my day lol
yup, its "Now that we've covered yin and yang twins, I can move on to Jackie Cen"
i love that one, specially the way socrates starts. Im coming of the acropolis to start some pandemonium, DONT BRING LIMP RAPS TO A PIMP SLAP SIMPOSIUM
Yes I knew it
Can we take a second to appreciate the instrumentals
Alexander was represented by Violins, Piano, Marching band Drums, and Classical instruments
Whilst Satoshi was represented by an Electric Guitar and Synthesisers.
Genius
U are genius, thanks for mentioning
Holy shit dude
How tf Hamilton just keep dropping Ws even after death??? 💀
Probably my fav founding father, definitely was the most modern thinker among them
I respect the fact that he had the foresight to see what kind of financial system the nation needed to thrive.
all financial systems eventually lead to the downfall of every nation
@@tonyisnotdead Right... I think this is a good example of 'my source is I made it the f*ck up'
*Laughs in Jeffersonese*
@@IKnowStuffJefferson would go on to actually appreciate Hamilton’s bank.
What abt Thomas Paine? More progressive than Hamilton. Really pseudo-atheist and socialist writings and campaigned against slavery, even criticizing Washington and Jefferson for it
Coming back to this as crypto is crashing and dying out is hilarious
truth
@@ggexgaming6020 Once again, Colonel Hamilton proves himself correct from beyond the grave. Hamilton and his bank stands over the grave of Cryptocurrency in our time. Maybe in the future currency will be digital but in our modern time, we simply cannot afford to go Crypto.
Stock market is also dying. #Cute.
The price is 2x what it was when this was made. The hash rate is over 8x. Unique wallets addresses are up over 4x.
We'd have to tank another 80% for me to be in the red and I never trusted a centralized exchange to hold my keys for me so I haven't lost jack sqaut with all the scams these wall st firms like FTX and Celsius were running.
And unlike in 2009, the government can't print more bitcoin at the expense of savers to bail those a-holes out.
@@nickanna8857 Okay and cool.
"It's not the currency itself, it's the method, man"
I liked that "method, man" referencing the rapper the same way it did in the Eastern vs Western Philosphers ERB (also linked by the presence of TimDeLaGhetto)
good job, guys
Thank god I am not the only one who recognized that
M E T H O D man
I caught that too lol. Only big fans would know exactly what battle that is from lol I love erb
Thats not the only reference. :wink:
I just need to correct one thing... american currency is not made from trees it's made from 75% cotton 25% linen... no paper
Mmmmm ooookay
Fair enough. Why do fresh bills feel more like paper than fabric?
@@Kuroda786742 because the press makes them feel that way, it's how there made. It's also really hard to recreate, that's why we also know when idiots use actual paper to recreate it
True that
Built by slaves
4:43 surprisingly it’s the second time epiclloyd used the lines “method, man” in a rap battle against Timothy delaghetto
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this
That’s why it says ‘get it?’ right after
If I had a knickel for every time I heard EpicLloyd use a Method Man line against Timothy DeLaGhetto, I'd have two knickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
I don't need constant reaction shots to tell me how to feel
Especially badly acted ones
Exactly
agreed
Straight cringe 😂
Seriously this. +Rhyme_Combiner stop that on future vids. The reaction shots were insulting.
Wow, THE epicLLOYD is HERE? And is this guy sun tzu?
He was also Kim Jong Il.
@@r.l.royalljr.3905 Twice.
Mate, I'm more hyped about The bloody Gift Of Gab as t host unull, christ
I've got license to il
Hahaha fuck that was good fun. Nothing to do much with history tho. Nobody knows much about kimmmy anyway
Hamilton's verses aging like the finest of wines. RIP FTX, and voyager, and Celsius and...
Centralized exchanges going bust
@@Smier46 Sure they are....
@@Smier46 “My source is my feelings 😢” 😂
@@randomdude2753 There are no feelings, it's a fact, they were centralized exchanges lol
@@randomdude2753 they are centralized exchanges, literally what they are. where is the feeling in that, explain?
I love how Hamilton proven right even the writing was biased
dont ever delete your youtube account. keep your notifications on as well so when new bitcoiners find this in 5 years and laugh at the troll who just didnt have a clue.
@@johnpittman7095 beta
@@johnpittman7095 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤓
@@Mr.Awesome yes bitcoin will expose all beta currencies as the time chain continues to gobble up all the worthless fiat..open source code is the definition of ALPHA. when it comes to future investments lol
@@gabrieltorres6633 your avi tells me everything i need to know..which is that you take surface level news/information and assume it as "fact"
bitcoin is at 91.89% total supply and the next halving occurs in spring of 2024 and that supply shock will reflect in price by end of that same year or shortly after.
this isnt a get rich quick scheme gabriel go screw around with the "cryptoverse" and get rug pulled if you dont understand why and how bitcoin is the greatest savings technology in human history. dont expect your news outlets to save you either.
Hamilton would be disappointed if he saw what his currency inflated to today
Dude, here's some basic economic knowledge, inflation, when done to prevent deflation, is good for the economy
@@phaartt *can be good. Printing mass amounts of money is never a wise idea.
@@phaartt Dude, almost 1/5 of all US dollars were printed this past year......
Do you know about economic cycles, before the market crash in the late 1930s, the dollar had inflated similarly, then the cycle started over and the dollar’s value returned
Gabriel Flamerich not true
Satoshi: "a bunch of rich white guys made this system"
The black guy on Hamilton's team:👁👄👁
Of course there was never a black guy on the Hamilton team, all founding fathers white men.,.. English vs. the king
It kind of makes sense, Hamilton was one of the few founding fathers that was against slavery which is one of the reasons why he was hated amoung most of the founding fathers
@@Sonic8577 A lot of the founding fathers were against slavery. Hamilton was hated because he was an urban Federalist.
@@nicolasg8091 Yet they implemented it into the constitution and did nothing to try to get rid of it. Hamliton spoke out strongly against slavery and was opposed to it being in the constitution but couldn't do anything about it because a lot of the founding fathers supported it. I understand that they foght in a war 8 year war with the british but the war ended 1783, Thry had all the time in the world to end slavery but didn't so I highly doubt it.
@@mickeydrago9401if “all” founding fathers were white, then please explain to me who Frederick Douglass was?
I teach grade 12 computer science and this is by far the most balanced and engaging synopsis of both sides of the debate that I've seen. For the past 3 years it's made an excellent conversation starter for class discussion. Extremely well-done! Thanks to all of those who had a hand in making it!
BTC isnt bitcoin
That's awesome! I would always love when teachers let me play a rap battle in school
Its kind of one-sided but I'm cool with that. Tired of Big Banks
Wow, that's so cool!!! Kids love to learn from this.
@@cheeseheadwizard yeah it is
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"...there´s a reason most dollars carry traces of cocaine"
*Starts snorting all my money
Izzul Aizad that’s why it smells so damn good when you pull em up together
Im snorting because my nose is running bite me
Good luck with that. Its in such trace amounts that its virtually impossible to get high of off
Just make sure that you got the money directly from a drug dealer! Like... Say, this is merely hypothetical, but *coughs* do you know the drug dealer named ThundergodL1? They say if you're interested, then you should go to 2nd house in Cleveland from south entrance. Though that's mere speculation, and aren't there more than one Clevelands?
1. Withdrawl 1000$ in ones
2. Soak ones in acetone for 12 hours Stirring every few hours. Use mild heat for better yeild .
3. Remove dollars from acetone
4. Put remaining solution into wide container such as baking dish
5. Put container outside and let acetone evaporate. This process should take multiple days
6. You should be left with some disgusting looking black crystalline shit. This contains basically every drug in existence
7. ?????
"got 99 problems but a bit aint one"
"Gun!"
i just love that
Last time Alexander didn't win thought.
It is every argument on the internet personified, ever. Perhaps :)
That is a reference to Tony Hawk vs. Wayne Gretzky.
That is the real point. A national fiat currency is backed by military power.
@@kennenhaas1317 isn't any currency that is used by an entire country? I'm sure that when mankind was on the gold standard, it was backed by armies.
Ridiculous bias in this video.
End of Hamilton's bars: crowd shakes head.
End of Satoshi's bars: crowd nods.
without fail.
the writers did not realize crypto can in fact be tracked
TBF, when the video came out almost 5 years ago. Crypto was seen as an "untraceable currency" which is why it gained the infamy of being used a lot more in crime and black market deals. Of course we have better way to trace it now but back then law enforcement was just as clueless as the public.
Hamilton's bank was nothing like the federal reserve. And Jefferson, once in power, actually appreciated Hamilton's bank. It made managing foreign debts more easier.
TY
Much easier or more easy, better English...
@@mickeydrago9401 does it matter? You understood what they were trying to say, at least 200 people knew what they were trying to say, it doesn't really make a difference
@@Excepnexcep
Yes because i be tryin to not let peeps b ilitirit
@@Excepnexcep
Stay tuned for Bitcoin taking over, And if there is any kind of defense for Fiat to compete with Bitcoin they will have to go back to silver and gold backing which actually would be an enormously great success story for Bitcoin if such an impetus (realignment with true value) comes out of the blockchain
I thought this was Epic Rap Battles of History.....But I'm satisfied
it is, i mean here we see epiclloyd and the dude who was in eastern philosophers and played kim jong il
Unlike Hamilton, he will never be satisfied
ourWorld Lucy You wouldn’t understand what I mean unless you’ve listened to the Hamilton musical.
@@LucyAdroit That's what I said.
@@LucyAdroit I answered a comment that said ''I'm satisfied'', so I said that they're satisfied, unlike Hamilton, he will never be satisfied.
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@@teguhlestari5820 You are right sir
After KBF, Satoshi's arguments aged like milk.
FIAT sponsored scam Crypto excange goes under = bitcoins fault
ok bruh
SBF*
The people liking this comment doesnt even know the name of the centralized exchange right
Not your keys not your coins. Get a wallet already…
Kinda misrepresents hamilton he lived in a time when we where on the gold standard. All the money he got was taxed or tarrifed not printed
Good point!
He did print money, but only when there was gold to back it.
@@TheRedKing247 exactly I meant print to mean fiat money
I'm sure he would be absolutely horrified that our money is backed by nothing. I think anyone from that time period would wonder how we can possibly live like this.
hamilton believed in centralized banking. cryptocurrencies are completely decentralized and unregulated, as any currency should be
4:16 ACTUALLY... paper money is made from cotton, not paper.
US dollars are at least. I think Canadian dollars are plastic and others use paper
@@PennRail and not just that, most paper comes from sustainable fast growing trees - i.e. coniferous trees. The Amazon and all the other rainforests are not deforested for paper, they're deforested for commercial farming, mining, plantations of rubber, palm trees and hardwoods.
John Smith exactly.
@@PennRail Romania money is made of plastic too
that's why you should not fall for that bet that you could burn a hole through a dollar bill with a cigarette.
“Can't Bitcoin the dentist. Can't Bitcoin my breakfast. Can't even use Bitcoin at Bitcoin Conventions.”
Damn.
That's been wrong since Hal Finney and Satoshi moved around the first Bitcoin
Amazing video you guys break down all the key arguments in a fun way
The battle is okay, I like it, but the audience reactions felt biased and by biased, i mean ONE-SIDED. I didn't like that at all.
Then again everyone is biased no matter who they are
@@christiandahms8846 But like, the "bitcoin convention" line definitely deserved a solid reaction.
I felt well representated xD
@Stupid Bro Duh
Username checks out.
Reactions in favor of satoshi: 17
Reactions in favor of Hamilton: 5
Feelings do not dictate reality. Facts do,
Its kind of manipulative
Lee Oswald laughs
Make that 5 a 6
just some German +1!
Oh how this aged perfectly.
Since 1933, the U.S. dollar has lost 92 percent of its domestic purchasing power. Even at its “moderate” 1994 inflation rate of 2.7 percent, the dollar will lose another half of its purchasing power by 2022.
You mean like that? As Bitcoin has increased by over 20,000 X in value since 2009
@@mickeydrago9401 Jesus I never expected a crypto bro to actually comment-
@@Snowzure
Interesting how earlier today I was listening to the Craig Wright Norwegian case in court as he talks about the distinction between crypto and Bitcoin which is not cryptographic like so much of the crap coins out there but rather a public ledger.
Post cryptography Bitcoin is validated and public with a private key as the only way to move it, beyond using the private key, would indirectly involve any type of cryptography to crack the private key code. Close to impossible.
I see his point but obviously Bitcoin originates out of computational effort, cryptographic guessing games...
@@mickeydrago9401 o k
“The money leaves a trail”
Mister Hamilton WOULD know about that, wouldn't he?
follow the money and see where it goes
"its the method man" lol, how many people actually got that
only one method man for me!
Wutang
It's also a call back to an ERB where Lloyd said the exact same line. I can't remember which one off the top of my head though.
@@danielpurdom9141 in the Socrates Part. Western Philosophers vs Eastern Philosophers
@@UnderFighter001 dear God, you're right. Which adds ANOTHER layer, because it was Lloyd's Socrates who said it to Timothy's Sun Tzu. Same actors. Holy crap, that's a deep callback!!
Both raps were "on fire", but the editor showed his/her bias, with headshots of one-sided head-shaking. Just show us the rap battle as it unfolds, we can make up our minds on our own, without propaganda.
"propaganda
badreality2 I’m pretty sure people shone their heads for both sides
@@breadsticks3054 maybe, but if you watch whenever Hamilton gets an audience reaction it's mostly negative. Then when it's satoshi they are mostly nodding. That is a bias as, subconsciously, it tells the viewer that Hamilton is wrong as more people disagree. The point of this is to start conversation. So don't make it look like one side is wrong off the bat.
@@mondelssonI agree.
For fun I went back through this rap and tallied the audience’s reactions. 6 heads agreed with Hamilton and 4 disagreed. 12 agreed with Satoshi and no one disagreed. I don’t know if I missed any but hey that was a fun experiment.
Great work. This piece has better arguments and points than some paper I've read.
Great for starting the discussion.
I think that Hamilton won. The market crashed in Crypto in 2022, so another dub for the Founding Fathers.
Definitely had no idea what 80% of my raps meant, BUT team crypto for the win, baby!!! Lmao now imma go research and invest.
According to the comments you repped Satoshi well... wait, are you Satoshi?
Separation of money and state.
Financial freedom for the people.
Taking power away from the corrupt elite.
That's what Bitcoin represents.
it wasn't the best defense (especially about proof of work and the environmental impact bullshit) and kinda too complicated, but was solid and bitcoin ppl will appreciate it. congrats, hope you meme as badass satoshi
Let me know if you have any crypto questions. Glad to answer them for you.
Get that crypto!
Honestly I only watched because i saw epic Lloyd in the thumbnail BUT I'm glad I did this battle was amazing
We need a part two to this now after all that's happened. Like if you agree so maybe they can see this!
Also come on Satoshi the us dollar bills aren't made from trees. They're made from cotton!
This looks even sillier with hindsight. poor crypto bros
You we're saying..?
Comment aged like milk, LOL
I hate how everyone was against Hamilton.
Agreed
I belive the PRC government actually banned Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin and Monero although they're now developing their own digital currency but obviously being a centralised system designed to grab further power onto the people of Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macao.
Because the subconscious mind of the human prefers something new and improved over something older
China hates the Bitcoin more then just about anything. Wealthy people in China use it to flee the totalitarian regime and move to America.
China hates bitcoin because they didn't come up with it first. Bitcoin will become the world's next reserve currency, because its the only and first desensitized world currency. Hold on to your hats of realization🤠😂🖖
My favorite lyrics: "Can't Bitcoin my dentist, can't Bitcoin my breakfast, can't even use Bitcoin at Bitcoin conventions!" 😂😂😂
You're just a n00b then
@@danielraissar
Bruh moment
Well you can do all 3 now
@@nicholasmccormack6490
Perhaps, perhaps, here and there, but what's the point when cash is usually what they want you to bear?
To be entirely honest, crypto shows promise, but today right now I'd never put my cash on it
@@KoishiVibin No. Using a crypto card anywhere that accepts visa allows you to use crypto. You are just missing out, I made 110% from crypto investments last month.
Amazing job ! Really awesome lyrics and beat. The idea was top notch and it needed to be done. Surprised I did not see this on ERB first but not disappointed one bit !
Turns out Hamilton was right about crypto being a scheme
Gov'ts control everything. There is nowhere to run. Blockchain had to be invented, it's human nature to resist. You've got holy grail to freedom in your hands. It's up to you if you protect it and be free or sell it for gold and be a slave. Choose wisely.
Amen.
It's not over yet
@@Arif-eb4cd
It will be soon...
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 chaos is unstoppable, you cannot end it
Actually banknotes aren't made of paper, they are made of cotton.
cotton and linen
@@zeppelinled3967 Yep, not paper that comes from trees.
@@history_addict136 if it was so we might not have trees. Which would mean that in the end ee would not use paper money. Humans are not as stupid as movies or novels make them out to be.
Cotton is the new paper.
Came here to say that
Showing the audience reactions is super annoying
Also, i think satoshi is is getting more positive reactions from tge audience, also he starts when the upbeat begins
@@gabathecat737 its a biased video. His rap has no facts. His whole premise is "freedom to the people" without facts to backup why central banking is so bad.
REALLY ANNOYING.
@@Raez_XL how much scary is it for you "freedom for the people" ?
@@clasher3732 Humans, when left unregulated at least a bit, act like animals. There needs to be system of checks and balances. Too much restriction is not good because it can curtail many freedoms like freedom of speech and expression. But too much freedom can also degrade societal structures and economic institutions. Example: too much freedom in trade, commerce and industry can lead to monoplies and stifle free and fair competition.
Thank you~~ have been watching your channel for couple of weeks ago and it's really make sense and it really help me through
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Doge to the moon and beyond
@@damienbella5701 Thanks you for your update Am long term holding. I love dogecoin
Ganga and doge, a winning combination
I'm 50% ADA 50% BTC 5 year hold
The problem is cryptocurrency resulted in several get rich quick scams so technically Hamilton was right
You can build a crypto scam (it's basically informatics, you can build whatever you want). But Bitcoin/Ethereum and others aren't scams, that's a stupid way of thinking.
It's like saying "X or Y company was a scam, so ALL companies are scams".
Btw, ALL fiat currencies are scam...
@@ricotaline lmao, sure thing cryptobro
I'm really surprized to see how Hamilton accurately points out problems regarding cryptocurency. That guy knows what he's sayin' lolz
Look who funded....everything has drawbacks....just like your thinking....
@@stacknsat Beg pardon mate yah just can't say what you did and not add a point.If I'm being honest it doesn't shed a kind lite upon your side of this debate...(P.S Not ta be rude or nuttin just felt like I should help ya see a different side eh?)
@@LiterallyAWesternHognose good point ....him starting off saying we backtrack with the technology when it solves to long-standing problems (counterfeiters and bitcoin also solves byzantine problem)
So many Americans afraid of whats to come. Often times makes you point your fingers at China and hate them. Here is a little fact though, Bitcoin doesn't care about Chinas Renminbi just as much as it doesn't care about Americas dollar. Bitcoin is the worlds most secure form of trade, that is itself, controlled by nobody or everybody. The fact that it takes a 51% vote to change protocol gives Bitcoin a democratic principle. Bitcoin is literally financial freedom. You Americans claim to like freedom. Bitcoin will put that to the test.
@@MrTubeYouTheif You seem to have a thing against Americans mate, and you're not good at hiding it.
I actually learned alot more in this rap battle about currency than they ever taught me in school or college, damm that's fucked up
Maybe epic rap battles should be integrated into the education system.
lol, made my day
Obviously you didn’t pay attention because a lot is two words
@@lukefischer1323 Language changes over time. I am a linguist and can tell you that alot has been an acceptable spelling for a lot in the vernacular since the late 70s
typelogin a lot is not one word no arguing over that
Crypto is now 1.69% of the global economy.
it was just 0.12% in 2017
and 0.004% in 2013
Hamilton keeps on winning, year after year
This video is pure gold. Well, maybe pure BTC ;)
right...!!!
Hahaha pure btc
you cannot buy bitcoin without cash.. that should be your cue.
fazt que haces aca amigo.Sos un capo empeze a programar gracias a vos
Crypto is the best
For crypto investment
Weird to actually see a RUclips Rap Battle that actually is a great back-and-forth of ideas.
Yeah, too bad the audience was really biased in favour of Cryptocurrency
@@shinobix4925 we are being herded into crypto, in subtle and overt ways.
@@fransantelli Herded??
@@shinobix4925 i mean I can't blame them
@@terrasentheterrarian4084 yes you can, just blame them for bias
Bold of you to assume governments even protect their own citizens
Exactly! See "police brutality," "sexual assault," "burglary," "white-collar crimes."
@@darlalathan6143
Police brutality is the only one I can agree with, everything else isnt the governments fault and the government does protect a lot of citizens from them.
“It’s not the currency itself, it’s the method, man!”
Hamilton wins for that brilliant callback to the Philosophers’ ERB.
Yessss I'm glad someone else picked up on that lol
Not gonna lie, seeing the camera cut to audience reactions was very irritating and annoying, especially after every 2 lines. If it were up to me, I'd leave out reactions entirely. Great rap battle though!
I agree- the reactions detract from the battle.
yeah especially since the reaction is OBVIOUSLY positive towards one side.
FYI a couple of those audience members are crypto founders/coders - I recognized Charlie Lee (invented Litecoin) and Adam Back (Bitcoin core developer).
And then there was someone from the crowd making a comment every line
"Yeah!"
"Duh!"
Etc, etc, etc.
I for one, am glad your are 1, its not for you to decide we are a whole XXX nation. Read between the lines .. maybe understand it takes than a brain cell to have a plan.
Who lives, who dies, who raps your story.
Hmm Hamilton called for his gun declaring a duel yet he got killed by getting shot in the side by Aaron burr
Alexander Hamilton won.
It was really subtle, but more shots of the spectators showed them rooting for Satoshi or disagreeing with Hamilton. It made the battle look biased from the start and physcology shows that that makes the viewers lean to the side that is gaining more support. Liked the battle, but if you want it to be an unbiased choice of the viewer, then make the camera shots more even sided.
Edit: I also want to mention they pinned a comment saying that Satoshi won and applauding Bitcoin. Kind of proves my point
It was very obviously biased but so are the actual ERB videos lol
Jose Canibal ?
Who cares? This wasn't even a detailed debate. People can't rationally make up their mind by listening to rap videos. I fully support the bias. Jeffersonian Crypto FTW!!!
I counted 22 people disagreeing with Hamilton or agreeing with Satoshi with only 9 on the other side.
Jose Canibal not really. Only the Donald trump one in a way but Abraham won no matter what and it’s a fact
"There's a reason why most bills carry traces of cocaine"... Satoshi nailed that one.
Satoshi: I think you should understand that Bitcoin is a think everyone can use.
Hamilton:GUN
Typical
@@SATOSHI.-Nakamoto I peg your pardon
can we agree that duels are dumb and immature?
This is gonna age so Damn fucking Well, also it’s going on my all time fav videos 🤝
Precious metal holders: *stares in confusion
Right.
You still need to trust your vendor to hand it out to you. Therefore I hope you don't store it in a bank. Not so with Cryptos.
Pst: during Hamilton's time money was silver backed. So this entire battle is actually just a Bitcoin ad as they didn't even bother to represent Hamilton properly.
@@JustinDynamicD Hamilton was criticized by Jefferson for his desire for central banking specifically due to the inflationary/deflationary nature of government and their favoring of corporations.
He may not have spoken to the release of the bimetallic standard of the fiat (Crime of 1983 for silver, and 1971 for gold) but his ideas for centralized banking set the ground work for its inevitability.
@@Mediagix No, you just have to hope that so many cryptos aren't created that FOMO will disperse the value of those cryptos and inflate all of them into a constant equlibrium of market cap value ad infinitum.
This whole battle was slanted in favor of Bitcoin, the audience reactions, the relative lack of emphasis when Hamilton was talking about the morality of central banking, the general framing of different shots and the actors involved. However, enough points were made clearly enough to convince me, I think centralized banking is the better option.
central banking is the reason we are in so many wars
@@aidensvocals2479 and bitcoin is the reason people have lost millions, its so fragile that it makes no sense. If you want to argue that a centralized banking is the reason we are in so many wars. A decenteralized banking would destroy the world economy to the point where we would be back to the stone ages. No centeralized system, civilization will stagnate or regress
So either we die from a nuclear war or we die from economic collapse
I agree, for example it left out that bitcon might be a bit centralized to, already Ghash got control of 51% of the mining, they backed down instead of seizing control but it demonstrated how economy of scale can break bitcoin.
Also the fact blockchains, it is flat money too (in the sense it has no fixed exchange rate), suffers from network lag and a limit of how fast transactions can be processed as a gobal scale, it is also deflationary, so it scales poorly.
'I am not a rapper but one can dunk on bitcoin quite a bit.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin#The_51.25_attack
this shows how bitcoin was a nice dream but does not work in practice.
Quidzo -gaming How is central banking the reason we are in so many wars when untraceable money would presumably help terrorists, arms dealers, mercenaries, etc?
"Hold on! We're not having a duel!"
Yep, and good thing for you Hamilton, cause you don't perform too well at those.
Great video, i can give it to my students, now finally the will get the discussion going!
can I vote for the sick beat? cause that's what won in my opinion.
If sick beats were a currency, the world would be a lot simpler..
Tbh Hamilton makes a far more compelling case (despite the dumb audience reactions clearly biased towards crypto).
Also, Satoshi implying banks don't use encryption. Lol what???
@Bruno Pereira ... no, its stronger, bitcoins strength is in a decentralized node network, the encryption is actually lacking.
@Bruno Pereira cuz bitcoin literally does not use encryption ... the protection is gained from other nodes being able to identify a bad one.
@Bruno Pereira The facts don't care you are right, as for encryption the ledger is not encrypted. The transactions are cryptographically verified but the ledger is visible to all. That is essentially revealing your bank activity to anyone who can trace ur address.
@Bruno Pereira i do, im just saying that banks have much better encryption. Bitcoin's security is gained by other means.
@Bruno Pereira You clearly do not understand encryption if you believe that.
I thought Hamilton killed it. Great educational rap battle
That's because you're an idiot...May God have mercy on your soul
@@pfunk42 holy flip calm down dude, its a music video
@Petrus Sai its very unstable
@@ottis4518 its not really the peoples currency if most don't have the education to use it, nor the money to invest in it without losing money.
@@ottis4518 buy $1 that then goes to 2 cents, that I can't spend anywhere, that takes forever to buy then wait to be able to transfer it to another account, that I can't rely on its value, that I don't know what controls it, whos accountable. Its not even a currency anymore. 90% of people use it as a fucking get rich tag-along investment.
This entertained me, well done.
I think it's hilarious that they acted like Hamilton was stupid for warning about crypto crashing lol
Yeah crypto is cool and all but it's to unstable to use as actually money if you are part of a stable economy that doesn't get crazy inflation. He made appoint about interest but crypto gaining so much value is what hurts it because it's value seems to be tied to speculation not actual worth and that's why it can go up and down so fast. Of course Fiat money can have this crash problem to so it's probably a better alternative in Venezuela or Zimbabwe we're the have actual problems with Fiat money.
@@austinblackburn8095 In places like Venezuela or Zimbabwe, or anywhere else that virtually lost its entire economy, the barter system is the major alternative. After all, if a wheel barrel of money isn't worth the wheel barrel that holds it, why wouldn't you just trade the wheel barrel instead. Why would you except Bitcoin, which would require internet access just to transfer, which isn't even universally guaranteed.
This is why Zimbabwe almost went back to Coin Currency. Because the material of any coin pressed would be worth more than the number etched on it. Cryptocurrency would only complicate a system like that.
@@leonevermore4819 I never said It was ideal I just read that some people in Venezuela were putting their money into crypto currency to try to avoid hyper inflammation. If it works for some people good. I in general at this point in time don't see crypto as anything other than a speculative investment that in the short term if done right you can make a quick buck off of.
USD currency crisis about to implode the globe during the deepest recession in 100 years. This comment won't age well.
@@leonevermore4819 Actually zimbabwe uses bitcoin to transact. At least parts of it. There was this whole podcast of this woman who traveled their to specifically ask about their use of bitcoin, why and how and where they use it etc. Was a really interesting topic and I thought it was really cool they use bitcoin since its a way better alternative than their currency!
I chose Hamilton cause his rap was tight, even thought Satoshi is close to being right. Its all about the flow in such a crucial fight, so the old-fashion dude gets my vote tonight.
I see what you did there 😂
Nah. Hamilton was closer to being right. Crypto has some advantages, but they're mostly gimmicky, excepting avoidance of regulation (good and bad).
@@seigeengine sadly most cryptocurrency’s are pretty regulated although there are some exceptions
how do you exchange bitcoin for goods when the powers out? One doesn't need a power source to exchange paper or coin.
very biased towards satoshsi, we can all agree hamilton WAS right though
No
Ok buddy
No, Hamilton's central banks allowed the national debt to increase in ways that have never seen before.
Now, Satoshi is also wrong, but there was no ghost of Lysander Spooner coming in to spank both sides in defense of gold.
@@traviswall1982 Hamilton's central is one of the very reasons the country now nation is even alive today. The national debt has increased due to poor finance policy long after Hamilton passed away.
yeah the biased reactions from the audience is hilarious
They should make this an actual episode of Epic Rap Battles of History.
I definitely put this in my ERB playlist.
Too bad it's riddled with false propaganda favoring a tool to disenfranchise the poor and subordinate. Accountability is the entire point. What satoshi said in response has nothing to do with the point nor with the relevancy of accountability. I don't fucking care how it fluctuates, (as any fiat currency does and even "hard money" to a significant degree). The "invisible hand of the market" only seeks for profit and willfully finds every method to cheat the poor and subordinate. Without accountability big corporations are well known to dump toxic waste in major resources and suffer only partial social infamy. Without regulation, companies take advantage of every race-to-the-bottom, including slavery in all its forms and human trafficking, they can find to reduce the profit of their subordinates in exchange for their own luxury and undue power. Without consequences and a paper trail to enforce them, markets powers are just what we originally fucking fought to bring empowered ideals of revolution for freedom to the world: Tyrannical Mercantilist Monarchs!
they should get Lin-Manuel Miranda for Hammie as well
4:43 HAHA when he said “it’s the method, man” you can hear Lloyd in the background saying “get it?”
A reference about the western vs eastern philosophers him and timothy did.. he said the same quote. Just explaining for the people who don't "get it"
Lol
Ik
Amazing guys... thanks for this great video
Yo, Adam Back cameo? Dope!
did yall notice how all the reactions for Hamilton were negative ones trying to subliminally push your opinion. that really bothered me.
yeah, while Hamilton had some genuinely good points
thats cuz fiat is shit. and bitcoin isnt? O.o
@@Sfingus I agree i just dont like how they did it
@@dodec8449 such as?
Well not all of them, but yes most of them were. Might have to listen to the rap battle instead of watching it next time.
I wanted to get into this, but the fake and exaggerated audience "reactions" were really annoying.
You must had missed Charlie Lee 1:26
Yeah and it didn't even look like they understood what they were saying
I think the point of the audience was for a different purpose. An intriguing purpose, but I cant really put my finger on it... maybe to show bias?
@@typelogin Blood and Circus (aka distraction, in this case by reference) do not deserve a place anywhere near matters of disenfranchising the poor and subordinate with ruined accountability.
Accountability is the entire point. What satoshi said in response has nothing to do with the point nor with the relevancy of accountability. I don't fucking care how it fluctuates, (as any fiat currency does and even "hard money" to a significant degree). The "invisible hand of the market" only seeks for profit and willfully finds every method to cheat the poor and subordinate. Without accountability big corporations are well known to dump toxic waste in major resources and suffer only partial social infamy. Without regulation, companies take advantage of every race-to-the-bottom, including slavery in all its forms and human trafficking, they can find to reduce the profit of their subordinates in exchange for their own luxury and undue power. Without consequences and a paper trail to enforce them, markets powers are just what we originally fucking fought to bring empowered ideals of revolution for freedom to the world: Tyrannical Mercantilist Monarchs!
Appreciate the Adam back cameo
Totally cool, thanks! Added to my playlist! :)
Best flow: Satoshi
Best lines: Hamilton
Overall losers: The actors in the audience
Sebastian Demerjian nah, those guys were the worst. They’re the overall losers imo.
@@supC_
Yeah but they were so dumb I laughed too hard.
Sebastian Demerjian I mean by that logic the real winner is you.
yes... hamilton won me over with can't even use bitcoin in bitcoin conference... LOL
The real winner was the friends we made along the way.
Let’s play a drinking game: drink every time the camera pans to the audience.
In the news today more than 50% of Rhyme Combinator's subscribers have been rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning
No thanks I’ll be drunk 🥴 half way with all the drinks 🍹
I’m here to notify you that I have died
New game take a shot everytime it's biased it would be about the same amount of shots
Awesome bro
Wow, lots of great word play. Love it!
Gonna have to say Hamilton won, his design was so complex that it takes more than one man to understand
His financial plan was an outrageous demand and there were to many damn pages for any man to understand.
Cristian Moriggia tell that to bitcoin because most people don’t know coding and how to read it
That was a reference to “Hamilton: An American Musical”.
@@cristianmoriggia So stick with me, in the land of the free, and pray to God we never see Hamilton's candidacy.
@@TheNarwhalGal When British tax us, we got frisky
Imagine what will happen when you try to tax our whisky,
"Try updating Cash, go ahead, I'll wait."
When I first heard that line, I thought it was pretty good, then I realized that....it's already happened? Canada's got a whole new set of bills, 'updated' from the old paper versions.
joshleblanc1 America literally updates its bills on the reg to help counter counterfeiting, it was such a BS point
@@3k04t9 Most of the Satoshi points were
They don't get the old ones out of circolation.
It is a good point.
@@yellowcactustvz4929 Old dollars eventually go out of circulation. Old ones still around end up having to be traded in for new bills. Of course interest rate adds up. A bill from 1860 would be worth a ton today.
@@helmetguy6495 If you take 160 years we are not in a good position though
Love the references to ERB lyrics as well like “method, man” and “I got 99 problems and a bit aint one”
And also “method, man” was a lyric used by epiclloyd rap battling against timothy deleghatto just like here
Sharing this video with all my friends RN.
Hamilton: Oh and did you know I have a whole musical about me!
Jefferson always wins, in the end.
"Stop targeting my rights. I own my purchased power and the market sets the price" - The smell of freedom
Satoshi TKO!
zO + The NSA TKO!
💯
@404 Limit If THATS TRUE THEN ITS A WIN-WIN....BTC WILL SHOOT UP IN NUMERICAL VALUE
"Wait? Cash works! You immediately pay!" That already beat Satoshi into the core of the Earth.
2:08 pure violin fire