After 33 years in the fire service and using the first method shown, I find the method you showed here to be better for me in many ways. Thank you for sharing. I now have a new skill to practice.
Drilled this at the firehouse this evening. Love it! Definitely another great tool for the toolbox and was quick and easy for my young guys to pick up.
Hey Dale great video once again mate. I did this a few months ago during SCBA maintenance with the same dumny you use in the video (65KG) but I didn't have proper webbing. I used a cotton type webbing and it had a fair bit of stretch which made the dummy drag quite hard. I was then advised that under no circumstances was i to ever use a webbing loop drag in the field anyway... Still not sure why as i was never told the reason. It has less impact on me doing the drag as i can use bigger stronger muscles rather than smaller ones so less fatigue for me, it keeps the casualties head out of the heat and smoke too although its not quite supported, i guess if we are down to this its get out or die time. I will track down some proper webbing for this. I still think its a better solution than lifting and dragging backwards especially for lower back. PS i gotta get me some of those structure gloves too!! They are sweet!
Thanks for your reply and comments bro! As far as those that tell you never to use webbing - I've had more than one discussion with others that feel the same way and I simply remind them that webbing extraction techniques are not a "cure all" or perfect for every situation - They're simply another piece of equipment and skill to have in your "tool box". Contrary to what the critics believe, as long as there is no trauma to a victim in the area that the webbing loop is applied to it will NOT cause the victim serious injury. I can personally attest to this as all the methods I use I've performed multiple times in training on live individuals (fellow instructors and students) with no adverse affects or injuries. The critics need to understand (as you pointed out) webbing is used for a SHORT duration to remove a victim from an environment that if they currently stay in will cause them serious injury or death - So if using webbing allows a rescuer to remove that victim more quickly and efficiently than that's what I'm going to do. Now with that being said I can tell you of 2 victims I removed from two separate structure fires (one conscious and one unconscious) where I didn't use webbing in either situation as it wasn't necessary. However I still carry webbing because I know that in other situations it could prove to be extremely beneficial - For example removing a large or heavy victim a significant distance or wanting to keep the victim low to the ground and further away from the higher heat and smoke inside a fire building. As far as a RTF or the TEMS situation comment that MrCheckitout123 mentioned below - How and where the victim is injured will determine what method I would use. I also teach a few versions of a Full Body Hasty Harness which is another Fast Strapping technique that can be used to drag, carry or extract a victim. In the end I'm not a fan of putting limits on rescuers - I believe in versatility and being allowed discretion to improvise and adapt to the situation you're presented with. Making the right decision doesn't come from regulations, it comes from ones knowledge, training and experience.
the first method may increase harm in chest and upper airway trauma you will find in TEMS situation. you could also run your SCBA waist strap thru the loop giving you a hands free extraction method
Life over limb. Injury isn’t at the top of my list at this present time. Get them out. Victim unconscious and in arrest in a fire ? I’m not worried about more injuries. I want them out to advanced care ASAP.
Great tutorial! Your explanations & instructions are easy to follow, which is really beneficial for a guy like me haha Appreciate your time! Stay safe out there 👍🏻
This first method will not work while removing a unconscious victim. The reason is when the victim is being pulled the arms will come up and the webbing will pull off.
Matt - You rigged it wrong - If you mix up the hitch that's exactly what will happen, but if you follow this method the most the arms will do is flare out away from the body. We've tested it many times on real people - But your point reinforces why it's important to test lifts, drags and carries on live people and not just manikins.
Pedro - You can perform a similar procedure using the webbing - The key is to protect the victims head - So you will have to stay closer to the victim which will also help to control the speed going down the stairs as gravity is working with you.
Привет! Не надо оставлять внешне петли из кармана. В помещении, при поиске и тушении могут зацепятся за препятствия. Хорошо если просто выпадут и размотаться, а так пожарный сам остановится, пожарный может запутаться, может запутать с зади идущего пожарного, размотавшаяся петля может создать проблемы при возвращении. Кладите петлю целиком в карман, не оставляйте конец. Удачи✊
I'm not Mike, but I don't post anything looking for credit - People have used A LOT of my stuff (videos, techniques, props, etc) w/o ever saying thanks or mentioning my name. I'm use to it, so I don't expect or look for it, but thanks for asking none the less.
Попробуйте с Живым человеком! Будет ли биться головой об пол, ступеньки лестницы !!!??? ВИДЕО СДЕЛАЙТЕ! Try with a live person! Will it bang your head on the floor, stairs !!! ??? VIDEO MAKE!
Thanks for your comment - To avoid injuring a "live" victim's head you just need to gather up more webbing in order to elevate the victim's head and shoulders off the floor or stairwell - How to gather webbing up is shown at the 2:39 mark in the video.
After 33 years in the fire service and using the first method shown, I find the method you showed here to be better for me in many ways. Thank you for sharing. I now have a new skill to practice.
Victim Rescue Masterclass. Thanks for sharing.
Drilled this at the firehouse this evening. Love it! Definitely another great tool for the toolbox and was quick and easy for my young guys to pick up.
Thank you, Mr.Dale P, improving my skills and safety around us as F\F
Great video. One way I carry my webbing in my bunkers so it doesn't unravel is place it shove it into a latex glove with the tail hanging out.
Thanks Big Brother I will use your video to teach my brothers your techniques when rescue victims...
Awesome video as always. Thank you.
awesome video man!! Very clear and nicely paced video!
Thanks for additional techniques to use for SAR on board a ship
Hey Dale great video once again mate. I did this a few months ago during SCBA maintenance with the same dumny you use in the video (65KG) but I didn't have proper webbing. I used a cotton type webbing and it had a fair bit of stretch which made the dummy drag quite hard. I was then advised that under no circumstances was i to ever use a webbing loop drag in the field anyway... Still not sure why as i was never told the reason. It has less impact on me doing the drag as i can use bigger stronger muscles rather than smaller ones so less fatigue for me, it keeps the casualties head out of the heat and smoke too although its not quite supported, i guess if we are down to this its get out or die time. I will track down some proper webbing for this. I still think its a better solution than lifting and dragging backwards especially for lower back.
PS i gotta get me some of those structure gloves too!! They are sweet!
Thanks for your reply and comments bro! As far as those that tell you never to use webbing - I've had more than one discussion with others that feel the same way and I simply remind them that webbing extraction techniques are not a "cure all" or perfect for every situation - They're simply another piece of equipment and skill to have in your "tool box". Contrary to what the critics believe, as long as there is no trauma to a victim in the area that the webbing loop is applied to it will NOT cause the victim serious injury. I can personally attest to this as all the methods I use I've performed multiple times in training on live individuals (fellow instructors and students) with no adverse affects or injuries. The critics need to understand (as you pointed out) webbing is used for a SHORT duration to remove a victim from an environment that if they currently stay in will cause them serious injury or death - So if using webbing allows a rescuer to remove that victim more quickly and efficiently than that's what I'm going to do. Now with that being said I can tell you of 2 victims I removed from two separate structure fires (one conscious and one unconscious) where I didn't use webbing in either situation as it wasn't necessary. However I still carry webbing because I know that in other situations it could prove to be extremely beneficial - For example removing a large or heavy victim a significant distance or wanting to keep the victim low to the ground and further away from the higher heat and smoke inside a fire building. As far as a RTF or the TEMS situation comment that MrCheckitout123 mentioned below - How and where the victim is injured will determine what method I would use. I also teach a few versions of a Full Body Hasty Harness which is another Fast Strapping technique that can be used to drag, carry or extract a victim. In the end I'm not a fan of putting limits on rescuers - I believe in versatility and being allowed discretion to improvise and adapt to the situation you're presented with. Making the right decision doesn't come from regulations, it comes from ones knowledge, training and experience.
How long is the webbing 35’???
the first method may increase harm in chest and upper airway trauma you will find in TEMS situation. you could also run your SCBA waist strap thru the loop giving you a hands free extraction method
Life over limb. Injury isn’t at the top of my list at this present time. Get them out. Victim unconscious and in arrest in a fire ? I’m not worried about more injuries. I want them out to advanced care ASAP.
Excellent. Thanks for this.
Hi, dale excelent I realy like your movi.
Great tutorial! Your explanations & instructions are easy to follow, which is really beneficial for a guy like me haha
Appreciate your time! Stay safe out there 👍🏻
Awesome!
Should I make a 5 1/2 foot webbing loop or a 9 to 10 foot loop for rescue? Or do I need both both different applications?
Your choice - I carry both - A 9 or 10 foot loop for this application is too long and a 5.5 or 6 foot loop is too short for full body hasty harnesses.
@@DALEGPEKEL Thank you very much for replying to me so quickly. I will be buying more webbing lol.
This first method will not work while removing a unconscious victim. The reason is when the victim is being pulled the arms will come up and the webbing will pull off.
Matt - You rigged it wrong - If you mix up the hitch that's exactly what will happen, but if you follow this method the most the arms will do is flare out away from the body. We've tested it many times on real people - But your point reinforces why it's important to test lifts, drags and carries on live people and not just manikins.
2:05
Carrying/dragging the victim up the stairs makes sense, but how do you help the victim when going down the stairs by yourself?
Pedro - You can perform a similar procedure using the webbing - The key is to protect the victims head - So you will have to stay closer to the victim which will also help to control the speed going down the stairs as gravity is working with you.
Привет!
Не надо оставлять внешне петли из кармана.
В помещении, при поиске и тушении могут зацепятся за препятствия. Хорошо если просто выпадут и размотаться, а так пожарный сам остановится, пожарный может запутаться, может запутать с зади идущего пожарного, размотавшаяся петля может создать проблемы при возвращении.
Кладите петлю целиком в карман, не оставляйте конец. Удачи✊
Hey are you on IG. I wanted to give you credit in a video I posted
I'm not Mike, but I don't post anything looking for credit - People have used A LOT of my stuff (videos, techniques, props, etc) w/o ever saying thanks or mentioning my name. I'm use to it, so I don't expect or look for it, but thanks for asking none the less.
I hear ya. I just wanted to give credit where it’s due
Попробуйте с Живым человеком! Будет ли биться головой об пол, ступеньки лестницы !!!??? ВИДЕО СДЕЛАЙТЕ!
Try with a live person! Will it bang your head on the floor, stairs !!! ??? VIDEO MAKE!
Thanks for your comment - To avoid injuring a "live" victim's head you just need to gather up more webbing in order to elevate the victim's head and shoulders off the floor or stairwell - How to gather webbing up is shown at the 2:39 mark in the video.
@@DALEGPEKEL Thank you :)