okay, I tested the the -1 arms in the front with no spacer under the ball stud and I really liked it. It gave the car more steering, but it wasn't crazy hard to drive.
I can answer why the -1 arms on front with the spacer caused the car to seem not to have as much steering. Anytime the center line of the tire is farther away from the kingpins centerline it increases the scrub radius.
A spacer under the hub will increase your toll centre, so not recommended to do this to adjust track width. I tried the - 1mm arms, they work Ed incredibly well in low traction. I combined it with the short top links using the optional two hole alloy camber link inside plates. I would go so far as to say that this setup should be used on all low grip conditions
Very good info. Did you run the -1 arms in the front and the rear? I might try taking the spacer out from under the rear hubs and maybe use the wider rear hexes to get the track width back. Or just maybe try hex spacers for the rear.....
@@FullSendRC804 no just front as it was a very tight asphalt track with a painted surface called boral coat. Benefit with the short arms is it keeps everything at the same geometry. Xray use narrow hex hubs for example and it mucks up the geometry causing excessing tyre wear. Maybe go barrow front and rear and raise the rear hub by 0.5mm or go slightly higher shims on the rear top inside links for better rotation.
@@FullSendRC804 ah yes Uncle Billy, I've had a few conversations with him. I'm excited to meet the legend in person. I've heard countless stories. I'm sure he will be incredibly fast with a dialed setup no doubt.
Hello, I'm wondering if the air duct between the fan and the engine will create a noticeable temperature difference. If you have measured it, can you tell me the temperature difference?
I have never measured the difference of the motor with or without the fan shroud. I think it does put more direct air to the motor and less air being lost with using just the fan by itself.
okay, I tested the the -1 arms in the front with no spacer under the ball stud and I really liked it. It gave the car more steering, but it wasn't crazy hard to drive.
I can answer why the -1 arms on front with the spacer caused the car to seem not to have as much steering. Anytime the center line of the tire is farther away from the kingpins centerline it increases the scrub radius.
A spacer under the hub will increase your toll centre, so not recommended to do this to adjust track width. I tried the - 1mm arms, they work Ed incredibly well in low traction. I combined it with the short top links using the optional two hole alloy camber link inside plates. I would go so far as to say that this setup should be used on all low grip conditions
Very good info. Did you run the -1 arms in the front and the rear? I might try taking the spacer out from under the rear hubs and maybe use the wider rear hexes to get the track width back. Or just maybe try hex spacers for the rear.....
@@FullSendRC804 no just front as it was a very tight asphalt track with a painted surface called boral coat. Benefit with the short arms is it keeps everything at the same geometry. Xray use narrow hex hubs for example and it mucks up the geometry causing excessing tyre wear. Maybe go barrow front and rear and raise the rear hub by 0.5mm or go slightly higher shims on the rear top inside links for better rotation.
@@superstock9261 Funny that you mention that about the rear upper shims. I am running 0.75 higher in the rear now.
What rim tiers you running .. I'm new to the 800r I'm in Sacramento racing at new Indoor track the racers den
I am running Gravity RC G-spec type C carpet tires with GT wheels.
I'm running the -1 on the front. It seems like guys at 180 like it and have been going faster with the ltl19s as well.
I think X is running it if I am not mistaken?
@@FullSendRC804 yes that is correct, will you be at 997 for nats? That's my home track.
No, I can't make it, but I am sending Sydor in my place! lol
@@FullSendRC804 ah yes Uncle Billy, I've had a few conversations with him. I'm excited to meet the legend in person. I've heard countless stories. I'm sure he will be incredibly fast with a dialed setup no doubt.
Maybe, he is at our local track today and will be there Sunday as well. I have to work all weekend or else I would be too.
Hello, I'm wondering if the air duct between the fan and the engine will create a noticeable temperature difference. If you have measured it, can you tell me the temperature difference?
I have never measured the difference of the motor with or without the fan shroud. I think it does put more direct air to the motor and less air being lost with using just the fan by itself.
Thank you.@@FullSendRC804
You're welcome@@imumutkilic
As I understand, adding sims under the hub take away traction?
Correct, it changes our track width too, and also effects the up travel settings.
Dont see the uproar on the new carpet.
When i did cleveland i thought it was a huge improvement over the previous version.
-tc driver
Good to know, thanks for the comment.