Excellent video. I subscribed. I've followed electric vehicle industry for four years and am an advocate in the Electric Vehicle Association. This is a very good youtube channel on this issue.
The driving comfort and ease of driving is the biggest thing most people are missing. Anyone who's had to drive a diesel semi for several years or more can tell you that the transmission shifting, the engine breaking, and the engine vibration takes a toll on the body. Also, all the cameras and autopilot features will absolutely prevent accidents and save lives. A hybrid diesel is better for long haul trips and places where you can't install point to point charging stations. But with a hybrid you could at least eliminate emmissions when driving in populated cities or while idiling in drop off and pick up areas. For the majority of shorter trips, the Teala semi will make more sense in the long run.
@@massatube You are incorrect. Saff is 100% correct. Highway FSD is there. Highway driving is not much of a challenge for FSD, city driving is. If Tesla wants to 'apply' to suggest they are 100% FSD on the highway and were asked to prove it, they would likely make it today, but that is not what they are doing. They want to do FULL END TO END which is 10 X harder. My argument is for semi-driving, just being 100% on the highway is HUGE, and Tesla basically has that today
New batteries are hitting the market now that increase the range of BEVs a good 33-40%. Add that on to the Tesla's 500 miles and your at 700 max, plenty enough to handle over the road especially when you have a recharge that in a 30 minute lunch break will add that same or more extra 200 miles. Pepsi has already done a day run over 1100 miles. No diesel hybrid needed. That removes all the maintenance problems attached to diesel.
Great update! love keeping up with the progress on this because if a semi can be economical there are many other large vehicles that will be economical as well!
Met a retired truck driver at Great Basin National Park. When I told him about testing they did from the port of LA Long Beach to the warehouses inland noting how the drivers quoted said they loved how the BEV semis merged at the normal flow of light duty vehicles a look of shock went over his face. He replied that he was so stressed with navigating the heavy traffic as all the cars darted around cutting him off and such. He said he would have loved a truck that handled as an electric does with acceleration. My opinion is that's a key feature.
@ I completely agree. It can be very stressful driving a big truck through heavy traffic congestion and having to keep your head on a swivel for safety’s sake. I see how well Tesla’s FSD has evolved in its passenger vehicles. Having that tech integrated in commercial vehicles will be a game changer. Not only that - the smooth acceleration and quietness of the cabin compared to a diesel truck would leave me feeling less mentally fatigued after 500-600 miles of driving per shift.
Good to hear from a trucker on this. I suspect some will defer retirement with a Tesla semi. Tangent--knew of an older cats skinner (dozer operator) who was ready for retirement but decided to work some more yrs after GPS grade controls became popular some 20 yrs ago, made his job so much easier.
Have a look at the Electric Trucker videos here: www.youtube.com/@electrictrucker He's been showing videos of his trucks driving around Europe, including from Germany to Spain. Mainly Iveco but he looks at Volvo and Daimler as well. No sign of Tesla.
before, please consider looking at the Tesla Semi Video from "Adam Something", because you should look at both sides. Imagine a truck with a Load Capacity of only 9 tonnes.
thanks for the video... I'm thrilled to hear about the incredible advancements with the Tesla Semi! The impressive range, efficiency, and rapid charging capabilities truly set it apart from traditional diesel trucks. It’s exciting to see companies like Saia, PepsiCo, and DHL embracing this innovative technology, and I can't wait for Tesla to ramp up production. The potential impact on the trucking industry is monumental, and I'm looking forward to seeing how the Tesla Semi revolutionizes freight transportation in the near future! Especially in Europe! 😎👍
50,000 is about a quarter of new sales a year in the US. That in the early days will be enough to get the supporting infrastructure up and running as the EV fleet expands. This is even more true as it is likely fleet sales will predominate and so the customers will be adding the infrastructure for themselves also. It is also highly likely that the 325 mile version will be the major number sold as most trips are much less than that. This will all make for a much easier and smoother adoption curve.
@@massatube Different ball of wax. BEV semis will save freight companies a ton on fueling and maintenance. Plus the drivers are professionals and not every Tom Dick and Harry that Hertz failed to inform on how electrics work. It's like you naysayers are like classmates that didn't do the homework but think they pull one over on the teacher. Get out there and learn.
The Tesla Semi is an excellent vehicle but there is massive potential to improve the performance by simply improving the battery. In the next 5 years or so ICE semis will no longer be able to compete. As FSD is added to Semis this will fundamentally change the worlds economy. Countries that fight FSD will inhibit their economies because there will always be many other countries who are ready and willing to use FSD.
@@DrMarkyMark If you charge your vehicle at hime with solar roof panels, you can drive your electric bill to virtually nothing, as well as stopping the gov from knowing all about your driving and regulating your home power usage according to whim. Home power usage can also be supplemented by using your vehicle battery to supplement your roof-powered home battery giving over a week's usage at normal power usage. Prices and capacity available at Tesla's website. Tesla has an app that will estimate your roof's power capacity online with only your street address and monthly usage required to calculate roof area and exposure to the South.. You can also use the app to find an estimate without personal information, They have never called or written to me after I used their app. Sounds particularly good if you live in the wilderness.
Would love to see them come to the U.K. one day. With a max out of 500 miles it would easily take on our little island no trouble. Good work cleaner Watt.
Do we really want a vehicle in the UK that's produced by a guy who's now supporting the ultra far-right party in Germany? How embarrassing and unethical. I'm hoping Europe will ban his products.
Just wait until SpaceX starts using Teslabots to mine asteroids and build human habitats on Mars and such. This is just a startup company of what is coming. Humans will be able to exploit the inexhaustible resources of our solar system, basically from the comfort of their office, except for the need for a self-sustaining off-world colony for the purpose of insuring the continuation of human life during what would have otherwise been an extinction level event on earth -- which given the time, is quite inevitable. This is the most important thing that humans are working toward right now, and is Musk's overarching goal.
Jon, You sound so confident that the Tesla Semi will save fleets money. I agree that is likely, otherwise Tesla would not invest in a factory with 50,000 units/year capacity. However, AFAIK Tesla will not sell for the 2017 price of $180k for the 500 mile version, and have not announced what the actual pricing will be. Do you have insight into how much fleets will have to pay to buy these trucks? If not, how can you calculate what fleet savings will be?
And can you imagine not needing wasteful compression braking, but instead having regen to put energy back into the battery on a long downhill slope? Brilliant!
@hemaccabe4292 Check out the Jay Leno video. They put him in one then he stopped and hitched up to a trailer with *another* SEMI as a load. Super smooth and easy to drive. It's big trick is the single motor rearmost axle is for cruising, the second axle has 2 motors with freewheels that engage for full torque, and the function is seamless and transparent.
@@massatube Actually, over 100 trucks have been sold. You see two trucks to one company and you've reached a conclusion that they've sold a grand total of 2 trucks. Excellent use of the brain.
@@Techridr Volvo for example has already sold more than 3500 electric trucks and is growing fast. Over here in Europe, almost every truck manufacturer has electric trucks in their portfolio. It's unlikely Tesla will be a game changer once they enter the market.
@@EinzigfreierName I guess looking at the stats is just not your thing, while coming to knee jerk conclusions is. Tesla is always a game changer: as in has always been, is, and will continue to be THE game changer.
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That is largely going to depend on tyre wear and battery longevity which will vary greatly depending on use case. Diesel semis aren't exactly cheap to run, over a life time. Fuel, oil and rebuilds all add up very quickly.
Good job, but you forgot to include the new Windrose E1400 semi-truck. What's most impressive is that this machine has been tested in the real world hauling 49 tonnes total weight a distance of 670 kilometres (416 miles). So I beleive this will be the Tesla competition for the coming year's. Regards
As I recall, the Semi uses the smaller Panasonic batteries, which allows for the rapid charging and power out, due to the ability to cool the packs. The Tesla Plaid cars also utilize these smaller batteries, for the same reason. The competition seem to at this time have no answer for this. I suspect it is just a matter of time for them, though.
Now when we know the Semi can do 500 miles fully loaded, the question is how many miles it can make when half loaded? That should extend the range still, but nobody says by how much - the info would be interesting.
It can easily be calculated, as a lesser load reduce rolling resistance, and there are empirical formula to estimate that. I shall do it later, but my first guesstimate is that a 650-700-mile range should be reachable with a 50% load.
@ thanks! And I would have hoped for a similar figure - because for all practical purposes, most loads won't be maximum, and then when you see such figures as 700 miles, many deniers might shut up and think again.
@@Alarix246 ok, I did the calculation. It is not exact as I do not know some of the parameters going into the formula, and had to guesstimate them. So, the range extension with a 50% payload of ca. 22’500 lb (not 50% of the total weight) is less than I initially guesstimated. I come to 580-620 miles… No way it reaches 650-700 miles! But it’s ok, even in long-haul transport, the limit is the legal driving hours, not the battery capacity, as long as it is above a certain minimum… and the Tesla Semi definitely is!
Could be a huge matter for autonomous driving as is offering up a vastly greater "look" for the acquisition of *"King of the Road"* data both external but also internal as well. Unlike the rest of the current Tesla offerings there are military logistic applications and in a big way for this particular ptoduct. For reference an Abrams Tank fully dressed out can weigh in at 80 tons...or more. Also to my knowledge the Tesla Semi has always been rear wheel drive not all wheel drive. An all wheel drive all electric semi would be a game changer for the trucking Industry if that were to come about great presentation as usual Cleanerwatt great comments as well😊😊
@@kenth151 Not sure what your trying to say but the video refutes any idea that this truck won't sell and it's made clear that the last few years have been mainly testing. Ultimately it's not out as in not yet available in mass sales numbers. It is a game changer.
1.7 kwh/mile = 8 MPG There are about 16 usable KWH. in a gallon of diesel. 2 kwh a mile equels 8 mpg.. If you buy overnight electricity at 15 cents delivered. 15 times 16 = $ 2.40 VS $ 3,40 for diesel. I think this comment is about observational comprehension. The trucks average 1.7 KWH a mile..
@@kkarllwt You think that these companies are going to pay retail for electricity? And apparently your retail is almost twice what mine is. They would never do something like install solar and megapacks and do daily arbitrage with the grid. Oh no they will never do that. And they will never do the same at charging stations (they already have). So while you are talking about accuracy of computation, you may as well take reality into account.
If Tesla were to cover their factory roofs with solar panels to power the Reno factories, the reduction in grid-power, which likely comes from Hoover Dam south of Vegas, there should be a significant amount of water saved that would otherwise be used in power generation by the dam's water turbine generators. Hoover's current long-term water shortage has virtually emptied the dam which also supplies drinking and irrigation water to Los Angeles, Southern California, and Arizona. If you go to Vegas, I highly recommend the dam tour which was extensive and very well done when I was there 20 years ago.
Time will tell. We really only have information provided by the proprietors, at this stage. Both Frito Lay and Saia are in partnership with Tesla and are no doubt burdened by significant NDA's and in Frito Lay's case, the California state government has footed a significant amount of the bill. At the end of the day, this is just taxpayer funded T&E. When "real" customers start parting with their own money and aren't subject to NDA's, then we will be able to make a genuine and realistic appraisal of the vehicles.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Correction: You only have information provided by proprietors, because you do not know how to find actual unbiased info. You have already proven that in these comments many times. If I were you, I would not trust anything you think.
In my opinion that for long haul it clearly is not and will be a challenge to roll out due to the big increase in power needed. Permits, utility company upgrades to deliver the power where needed etc. The good news is that the factory won't open at anywhere near 50,000 capacity so expansion will happen in concert although I think surely slower than trucks can be built.
@@tmog1000 It all comes down to the available current on a given circuit and that is dependent on a number of factors such as the time of day, time of year and temperature. For this to be a success, Tesla are going to have to be very careful with their strategy in locating chargers and their dissemination of vehicles. Not many transport companies are going to take kindly to reduced or unavailable power on the West Coast on a hot summer's day, and that is something that they are going to have to take into account.
The next step will be Refer trailers. Those are powered by diesel too. Might lose another 1000lbs of cargo weight capacity, but I imagine a battery powered refer trailer will be WAY quieter than the diesel one.
Meanwhile more than 3000 semis are running in Europe on a regular basis. Not Tesla, but Mercedes, IVECO, Volvo, MAN, Renault and DAF. Their batteries have up to 730KWh and they drive up to 370 miles. Or you wait for a Tesla.
That's not how the dynamic works, when semis need replacing, if Teslas are available Teslas will be purchased. No waiting necessary, some semi purchases will be in the past or the now, and more will be in the future. I can't believe that people just make up imaginary parameters and then think they are real, such as, "Or you wait for a Tesla." Seems to mean something but it really means nothing.
In Europe, drivers have to take a 45 minute break after 4 hours of driving which makes a Tesla Semi rather pointless. I guess, regulations differ in the US.
You mean, "has the California State Government and the US Federal Government committed to filling out Pepsi's fleet"? They paid for 18 out of the 21 trucks that Pepsi has. Surely, Musk as head of D.O.G.E. will put an end to such waste and corporate socialism.
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The Electric truck landscape is changing as we speak. This year, mid 2025, Volvo will produce the 600 km range heavy truck. Many European manufacturers are planning to produce similar trucks for customers 2025. Still, Tesla Semi truck needs to comply with various regulations around the globe to be able to compete globally.
In RUclips comments on another video, a person claiming to be a truck driver for 30 years said he drove the Tesla semi for a month. He said he never wants to drive a diesel semi truck again. That tells me all I need to know about how good it is from a driver perspective. Pepsi also verified it is much cheaper to operate I think it was 35% cheaper but I don’t remember exactly. If it is cheaper and drivers like it way more, that means it will take over the market.
The cost is a good question. When they first introduced them, it was almost 10 years ago, I think??? The 500 mile truck was supposed to be 180,000 dollars, and the 350 mile truck was supposed to be 150,000 dollars. But I guess it will be significantly more, but how much more is the question. Ultimately though, the cost per mile is going to be a major selling point.
If the trucks are 200,000 $ then 50,000 sales would be 10 billion revenue. I guess it will be some years 2-5 years at least to get up to full production.
😁Good day from Goonellabah, NSW, Australia. I am embarking on a significant six-month journey. I'll be circumnavigating Australia in two CYBERTRUCKs and a Tesla Semi, covering a substantial 22,000 kilometres. This journey is set to commence at the end of February 2025. Elon shall help me. - 🤗Cheers, Ian Cleland
You know tens of thousands of people die every year in the USA because of vehicle exhaust, they just don't know why their complications are arising. Also it has been shown by studies that people who live in congested areas with a lot of traffic have shorter lives.
@@Cleanerwatt Scania, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, Iveco. Basically all of the mainstream truck producers have at least one full size electric truck in their lineup.
There are other Class 8 and lower, EV trucks out there on the market. (eCascadia) comes to mind, Freightliner has a charging hub(s) in the PNW to help drive C8 adoption. Tesla is not the only game in town, FYI . But a step in the right direction.
Yeah, but these kind of things usually result in a winner-takes-most dynamic. Especially when the winner is so vastly superior as in this case. And once the line is up, you can safely bet that Tesla will built its semis for less and faster than the competition. Though I doubt that Tesla will ever get into heavy heavy equipment. There are T-Rex type vehicles used for mining that are all electric and don't even need to be plugged in because they are so much heavier coming down the mountains loaded that they are able to recoup enough energy to drive back up unloaded.
@@SkyRiver1 It remains to be seen who that winner will be. Maybe Tesla will be the one. Who knows? What a lot of commentors are ignoring is that Tesla is now very late to market, giving its competitors a great advantage in "real" world experience and a huge lead in sales. Tens of thousands of electric semis and heavy rigids have been sold worldwide. Hyundai, Volvo, BYD... the list goes on. Tesla, more than seven years after announcing their product are still in the testing and evaluation stage and while they have partnered with freight carriers for this purpose, they really still haven't even sold a truck. Make of that what you will.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 This is what I make of it, Tesla designed a whole new vehicle from the ground up to be an EV, just like they do with their cars. Which is why they are superior in almost every regard to other EVs outside of the ones in China that have copied their manufacturing tech. Other companies like BMW, VW, GM, etc just tried to modify the ICE vehicles they already make, and basically outsourced their software to dozens and in some cases hundreds of companies. That in most cases would not even share data with each other. That's why they suck. It take longer to do it right from first principles with the best engineers in house. Being first does not always translate into anything meaningful. GM was first in modern EVs then like the geniuses they are, they stopped production and crushed all the EV1 cars.
@@SkyRiver1 The model S, the model 3 and the Y. All exceptional vehicles. Then there's the Cyber Truck. I'm keeping an open mind. Time will tell as to which category the semi falls into. Maybe the extra T&E time is to Tesla's advantage. Maybe it's still nowhere near ready for market and they don't want a repeat of the CT. We just don't know.
I find it weird that Tesla Semi leads the field in range while the Cybertruck has such crappy range compared to competition of full size EV pickup trucks
Honestly, I had to Google that new word "binnacle" ... which among other things, stems from Latin for "little dwelling place." So I am assuming you mean a room behind the driver, probably with a cot, possibly a very small sink counter, and a TV or display for downtime comfort and rest. I believe I have heard that such facilities may become available as Tesla Semi options, perhaps.
@hemaccabe4292 What do you mean by "binnacle" in this context? Dashboard? Most drivers of Tesla cars find the slightly offset big screen easy to adapt to.
@@grahammonk8013 Yeah, I’m sure it’s caused plenty of accidents in Teslas. I don’t want to get used to it. I want my instruments where they belong which is much more important on a truck.
Before and just after the pandemic, there was a a battery shortage and a lithium price spike, The batteries went to cars . There is now a glut of batteries and prices have fallen under $100 KWH.
You hate the thought, but until you try something you really don't know. I'm a farmer that has driven a decent amount of semi and central seating is the best in tractors, sprayers, combines etc... so much so that if they were to move the seating of any equipment I've ever operated from the center to the side I think it would be a regression. One thing I can think of that's better is the door location can keep mud/dirt/water contained and the driving area clean and it's so far forward that it looks like it will be awesome as a sleeper. The only negative I can think of is can't stick your head out window to back up, but the camera systems will be so good I think it more than make up for it. Plus once they get the auto backup working you won't even have to worry about that.
@@ianteetzel All good points. I have NOT driven a lot of farm equipment but I HAVE put a lot of miles on semi's. That second front seating position is very valuable in a semi, especially when dealing with passengers, like say, team drivers. Also, I have to stick my hand out the left window, ALOT. That looks like it will be awkward at best. Not sure how/if the door position will help keep crud out. Didn't comment on that, but climbing up on the sissy bar on a typical truck is a great opportunity to deal with filth OUTSIDE the cab and that seems lost. However, like how comfortable the seat is, many details can't be known until people actually get to use them. I AGREE about the sleeper. With a cab forward location, I would think the entire tractor could be shorter and still give excellent sleeper function. I will point out that I expect fewer sleepers in the near future, but anything's possible. If they really did come up with auto-backup, that would be awesome.
@@hemaccabe4292 👍 their ultimate goal is complete autonomy. Hopefully they can achieve it to increase profitability per capita and drive down inflation. Local trucks that are back in the yard for the night and can charge there will be the first sector they're targeting. The savings will be huge. Around $30,000 annually for a truck that travels 100,000 km annually. If you haven't driven a Tesla take one for a spin. An extended one is best. We rented one off Turo for a road trip. They are 10-20 years ahead of every other auto company, except many some Chinese, and it's clear that the future will be fully electric and autonomous. I really like innovation and tech so I'm really looking forward to it.
@@ianteetzel Most semi's have to back in wherever they go. As someone who has backed in many a semi many times, it can be an unpleasant chore. As a trick, backing in a semi is only 10 to 100 times harder than parallel parking a car, so doable. Even if Tesla could just get me some cameras in the right spots, that would be huge. If the TS is successful, I could imagine an ecosystem of shippers developing who would provide charging while the TS is at their door in exchange for some credit on their shipping costs. Obviously, diesel is a big cost, if they can change diesel out for cheaper electricity, would be a big boost, but first, the TS has to work! Just because a Tesla car is nice, does NOT mean the TS will work or have a driving experience ANYTHING like the car. No, no Chinese EV makers are profitable and they do NOT have better tech in ANY area. I am not convinced yet on that all electric and autonomous future, a lot of hurdles to overcome before we get there, some of which may not be so easy to jump. We'll see how it goes.
@@hemaccabe4292 We bought a model y in the may. Have put 55,000 km on it since then. Crazy eh. It's awesome. I'm never buying another gas vehicle. We were spending $1000 a month on gas for the vehicle it replaced. Now we're spending a couple hundred a month on electricity charging at night. No doubt in my mind the Tesla Semi will replace all but remote driven semi's. It's going to take a couple decades or so to build out the charging infrastructure for the long haul crew, which is somewhere around 1/2 the class 8 semi fleet. For a fleet with 30-40 trucks that drives 3-3.5m km annually the saving is around $1m that's some insensitive to make it work lol.
Like how fucking long does it tesla take to get the semi into volume production? 3:17 not any longer, mercedes eactros 600 at 311 miles, the competition isn't still in 2022 like you and tesla. Regarding the missing megawatt charging network, it seems to me the best approach would be to simply add backup battery packs to existing stations, vs upgrading substations or battery swapping like they do in china. That way you charge the ground based batteries in the background so they can discharge at 1 mw when needed. Also takes care of utility demand peaks, just like tesla is selling to utilities, they might as well do it themselves two birds with one stone. Otoh as said before I think utilities need to change and expand their offerings to include operating charging stations. It's the logical progression. But actually the large capacity tesla semis with 500miles range do not need a megawatt charger, since that is typically enough range for a trucker's allowed daily drive time, ie can charge when asleep. Which of course is by design. Also, us truck transportation is 25% of total traffic, so the personal vehicle ev transition is more important and it doesn't matter so much how much slower trucking adoption is.
Not a bad idea, but something tells me Tesla has already considered and rejected it. The engineers at Tesla know what they are doing. The prove it all the time.
Yeah, but does it have a sleeper berth? But seriously, I hope Tesla will at least design an option for a fold-down cot for trudkers who need a nap, etc.
No, the Tesla Semi does not currently have a sleeper berth, but Tesla has said it could be easily converted. The Semi was designed for day trips. I'm sure when the charging network rolls out more all that will happen since charging only takes 30 minutes
@mikecranapple8878 I'm pretty sure that an extended cab has been seen. Not heard anything about whether or not Tesla themselves will offer a fit out, but I'm sure many companies can offer such.
It was designed to be able to accommodate a sleeper cab but all trucks currently produced are day cabs for depot operations as there is no charging network built out.
Elon boy is on track in doing what needed to be done decades ago one good in all this is the up and coming start ups in batteries builds and electric motors are going to makes a big difference in the coming years .also tesla superchargers being built now is going to be big .
There is one huge problem here that no one is addressing including Congress. There are already brownouts and blackouts in areas of the country where AI Farms are sucking up all the electricity. If 50 - 100,000 Tesla trucks get on the road where is the electricity to charge them going to come from? Obama wanted to upgrade to a Smart grid over 10 years ago but Congress is owned by the petroleum industry. Without renewable electrical generation stations in an upgraded smart grid the semis are great and all but they have no fuel. I love the concept but there are problems that are not being addressed that Congress does not want to address
Reconductoring alone can increase the grid capacity by 25-40% without any additional grid towers being built and opposes by nimbys! Proven in multiple areas Inc Cali already and biden approved some funds to go towards it.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 BYD counts NEV (new energy vehicles) in their totals, and it is questionable as to whether or not they actually make a profit on them. That includes hybrids, plug in hybrids, BEVs and hydrogen. Tesla only makes BEVs. BYD outsold Tesla for one month, Dec 2024.
My son has been a long distance truck driver for 15 years. He says he doesn't know a single driver that thinks BEV trucks are feasible for anything except short haul routes. Not in his lifetime.
The roadster has 620 miles of range, the semi has 500 which is one charge and your in Florida from Ohio. They are a few changes away from it being viable across all states . After 1,000 miles then you can’t drive anymore your over your hours.
Unveiling in 2017 Production should have started in 2019 By the end of 2022 only a few produced, mainly as driving billboards and public beta test for Pepsi and Tesla. Now the mass production is planned to start at the end of 2026, so actually getting one before 2027 is highly unlikely. And to power these behemoths we basically need new nuclear power plants and extreme grid infrastructure able to handle the load thousands of currently non-existent MegaWatt chargers. I really hope that this will work out better and faster than I expect it to, but I won't hold my breath.
Probably not. Try posting it again not as a response to someone. If it doesn't show then make or use another RUclips account and post it. I look forward to debunking it.
Hot News! Flash!! Fizz Boom-Bah! Tesla have managed to get a company to try out two of their electric trucks. It's a couple of years behind schedule and a couple of billion dollars over budget, but it's there. Yabba-Dabba Dooo.
Excellent video. I subscribed. I've followed electric vehicle industry for four years and am an advocate in the Electric Vehicle Association. This is a very good youtube channel on this issue.
Thank you for covering this John. Very much appreciated.
Merry Christmas all.
The driving comfort and ease of driving is the biggest thing most people are missing. Anyone who's had to drive a diesel semi for several years or more can tell you that the transmission shifting, the engine breaking, and the engine vibration takes a toll on the body. Also, all the cameras and autopilot features will absolutely prevent accidents and save lives. A hybrid diesel is better for long haul trips and places where you can't install point to point charging stations. But with a hybrid you could at least eliminate emmissions when driving in populated cities or while idiling in drop off and pick up areas. For the majority of shorter trips, the Teala semi will make more sense in the long run.
FSD is going to be absolutely EPIC on this. Imagine all the highway miles not having to do a darn thing which Tesla has that tech right now
@@travisjazzbo3490 Tesla doesn't have that "Tech" right now. No one does.
@massatube v13 is already better on the highway than most humans
@@massatube You are incorrect. Saff is 100% correct. Highway FSD is there. Highway driving is not much of a challenge for FSD, city driving is. If Tesla wants to 'apply' to suggest they are 100% FSD on the highway and were asked to prove it, they would likely make it today, but that is not what they are doing. They want to do FULL END TO END which is 10 X harder.
My argument is for semi-driving, just being 100% on the highway is HUGE, and Tesla basically has that today
New batteries are hitting the market now that increase the range of BEVs a good 33-40%. Add that on to the Tesla's 500 miles and your at 700 max, plenty enough to handle over the road especially when you have a recharge that in a 30 minute lunch break will add that same or more extra 200 miles. Pepsi has already done a day run over 1100 miles. No diesel hybrid needed. That removes all the maintenance problems attached to diesel.
Pretty great video. 👍perfect video length too.
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THANKS JON 🤗 we are subscribed to ZANEGLER 😊💚💚💚
I’m a long distance truck driver and a Tesla car and stock owner.
Great update! love keeping up with the progress on this because if a semi can be economical there are many other large vehicles that will be economical as well!
Most trains run on electricity right now. diesel/electric, same with most subs and some ships. Some ships even run on batteries right now.
great video thanks so much for posting!!
As a truck driver with 14 years of commercial driving experience, I’m looking forward to one day being able to drive a Tesla semi.
Met a retired truck driver at Great Basin National Park. When I told him about testing they did from the port of LA Long Beach to the warehouses inland noting how the drivers quoted said they loved how the BEV semis merged at the normal flow of light duty vehicles a look of shock went over his face. He replied that he was so stressed with navigating the heavy traffic as all the cars darted around cutting him off and such. He said he would have loved a truck that handled as an electric does with acceleration. My opinion is that's a key feature.
@ I completely agree. It can be very stressful driving a big truck through heavy traffic congestion and having to keep your head on a swivel for safety’s sake. I see how well Tesla’s FSD has evolved in its passenger vehicles. Having that tech integrated in commercial vehicles will be a game changer. Not only that - the smooth acceleration and quietness of the cabin compared to a diesel truck would leave me feeling less mentally fatigued after 500-600 miles of driving per shift.
Good to hear from a trucker on this. I suspect some will defer retirement with a Tesla semi.
Tangent--knew of an older cats skinner (dozer operator) who was ready for retirement but decided to work some more yrs after GPS grade controls became popular some 20 yrs ago, made his job so much easier.
Have a look at the Electric Trucker videos here: www.youtube.com/@electrictrucker
He's been showing videos of his trucks driving around Europe, including from Germany to Spain.
Mainly Iveco but he looks at Volvo and Daimler as well. No sign of Tesla.
before, please consider looking at the Tesla Semi Video from "Adam Something", because you should look at both sides. Imagine a truck with a Load Capacity of only 9 tonnes.
Awesome change in technology. Love that!!
thanks for the video...
I'm thrilled to hear about the incredible advancements with the Tesla Semi! The impressive range, efficiency, and rapid charging capabilities truly set it apart from traditional diesel trucks. It’s exciting to see companies like Saia, PepsiCo, and DHL embracing this innovative technology, and I can't wait for Tesla to ramp up production. The potential impact on the trucking industry is monumental, and I'm looking forward to seeing how the Tesla Semi revolutionizes freight transportation in the near future! Especially in Europe! 😎👍
There was a Tesla semi being tested by Costco in Tracy, CA earlier this year.
Nice!
Seen one of those two Saia Semis a few weeks ago.
Good news, another trucking company involved
50,000 is about a quarter of new sales a year in the US. That in the early days will be enough to get the supporting infrastructure up and running as the EV fleet expands. This is even more true as it is likely fleet sales will predominate and so the customers will be adding the infrastructure for themselves also. It is also highly likely that the 325 mile version will be the major number sold as most trips are much less than that. This will all make for a much easier and smoother adoption curve.
OH really? What, just like the fleet sales of Hertz Tesla cars that they dumped.
I love EVs but 1.2MW chargers equals to power consumption of small industrial estate
@@massatube Different ball of wax. BEV semis will save freight companies a ton on fueling and maintenance. Plus the drivers are professionals and not every Tom Dick and Harry that Hertz failed to inform on how electrics work. It's like you naysayers are like classmates that didn't do the homework but think they pull one over on the teacher. Get out there and learn.
@@xperyskop2475 And rolling out those chargers will be biggest challenge in the transition.
@@massatube Obviously you do not understand how irrelevant your comment is regarding semis.
Nice!
Great video
Let’s build a Tesla semi gigafactory w/battery building ADDITION
Several on each continent
To supplement our suppliers
Waiting to see the completion of the Tesla Semi Nivada factory. Then we see the competition in this segment get kicked in the butt .
Chart worthy of a screen shot, I'd like to see kwh/mile there too.
1.61kwh per mile(for pepsi) and 1.73kwh per mile(for siwa)
The Tesla Semi is an excellent vehicle but there is massive potential to improve the performance by simply improving the battery. In the next 5 years or so ICE semis will no longer be able to compete. As FSD is added to Semis this will fundamentally change the worlds economy. Countries that fight FSD will inhibit their economies because there will always be many other countries who are ready and willing to use FSD.
batteries are cheap and fast charging
Companies are more carefull than car owners.
We should all boycott Tesla. This is also important for progressive industries like renewable energy companies. Time to bankrupt Elon!
@DrMarkyMark ugh, you're not wrong. I wish he would separate himself from Tesla and SpaceX. He can keep X
@@DrMarkyMark If you charge your vehicle at hime with solar roof panels, you can drive your electric bill to virtually nothing, as well as stopping the gov from knowing all about your driving and regulating your home power usage according to whim. Home power usage can also be supplemented by using your vehicle battery to supplement your roof-powered home battery giving over a week's usage at normal power usage. Prices and capacity available at Tesla's website. Tesla has an app that will estimate your roof's power capacity online with only your street address and monthly usage required to calculate roof area and exposure to the South.. You can also use the app to find an estimate without personal information, They have never called or written to me after I used their app. Sounds particularly good if you live in the wilderness.
Would love to see them come to the U.K. one day. With a max out of 500 miles it would easily take on our little island no trouble. Good work cleaner Watt.
Try out the Elektro Trucker - he s driving through Europe with Mercedes / Volvo / MAN Trucks
Do we really want a vehicle in the UK that's produced by a guy who's now supporting the ultra far-right party in Germany? How embarrassing and unethical. I'm hoping Europe will ban his products.
Tesla is going to be a monster company and it seems like they are going to all come together around the same time 💪👏
Just wait until SpaceX starts using Teslabots to mine asteroids and build human habitats on Mars and such. This is just a startup company of what is coming. Humans will be able to exploit the inexhaustible resources of our solar system, basically from the comfort of their office, except for the need for a self-sustaining off-world colony for the purpose of insuring the continuation of human life during what would have otherwise been an extinction level event on earth -- which given the time, is quite inevitable. This is the most important thing that humans are working toward right now, and is Musk's overarching goal.
dam first time hearing this good news
We would love a Tesla truck factory in Australia
Not feasible bro
Too small a market, no supply chains, not the best place for MFG. Europe and China will likely be next.
Great briefing. Thank you. Mike L, Sydney, NSW, AUSTRALIA
Erro na tradução: "semi" não significa "seminovos" numa tradução mais livre são caminhões com engate.
Jon, You sound so confident that the Tesla Semi will save fleets money. I agree that is likely, otherwise Tesla would not invest in a factory with 50,000 units/year capacity. However, AFAIK Tesla will not sell for the 2017 price of $180k for the 500 mile version, and have not announced what the actual pricing will be. Do you have insight into how much fleets will have to pay to buy these trucks? If not, how can you calculate what fleet savings will be?
I do have to say as a truck driver, if it can provide smooth acceleration and not slow down on incline, that would be great.
It does
And can you imagine not needing wasteful compression braking, but instead having regen to put energy back into the battery on a long downhill slope? Brilliant!
@hemaccabe4292 Check out the Jay Leno video. They put him in one then he stopped and hitched up to a trailer with *another* SEMI as a load. Super smooth and easy to drive. It's big trick is the single motor rearmost axle is for cruising, the second axle has 2 motors with freewheels that engage for full torque, and the function is seamless and transparent.
@ Sounds good.
@ I was thinking about that. Would be interesting seeing how that worked on a descent especially since it won’t have engine braking.
Tesla semi is starting to ramp up. The 8640 dry cathod anode has been solved so it will be great.
Diesel cost $1.50-2.50 per mile, electricity cost .50-.75 per mile. That zero emissions is the game changer.
It's not a game changer. So Tesla sold 2 trucks WOW.
@@massatube Actually, over 100 trucks have been sold. You see two trucks to one company and you've reached a conclusion that they've sold a grand total of 2 trucks. Excellent use of the brain.
@ I found semi truck order lists on google. They currently manufacturing on a test line making about 15 per week. There is a lot of these delivered.
@@Techridr Volvo for example has already sold more than 3500 electric trucks and is growing fast. Over here in Europe, almost every truck manufacturer has electric trucks in their portfolio. It's unlikely Tesla will be a game changer once they enter the market.
@@EinzigfreierName I guess looking at the stats is just not your thing, while coming to knee jerk conclusions is. Tesla is always a game changer: as in has always been, is, and will continue to be THE game changer.
Keep in mind not all customers need 500 mile range. Just like with an
EV car the extra range battery cost extra $$ AND it takes longer to charge.
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45min to charge
@@mcsike7264Lunch and a long shit😂
Tesla has a 350 mile range version.
@@malax4013pretty much or get some sleep
Serious question. Why has it taken so long to get the Semi built in larger numbers?
Do they have a self-driving package for the Electric Semi yet? Cab drivers and long distant semi drivers will go the way of the phone booth.
Thanks for the breakdown! I need some advice: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I'm curious what a semi costs in maintenance and what can be deleted with the Tesla Semi.
Google. DEF cost per mile, Semi truck oil change cost per mile.
That is largely going to depend on tyre wear and battery longevity which will vary greatly depending on use case. Diesel semis aren't exactly cheap to run, over a life time.
Fuel, oil and rebuilds all add up very quickly.
Good job, but you forgot to include the new Windrose E1400 semi-truck. What's most impressive is that this machine has been tested in the real world hauling 49 tonnes total weight a distance of 670 kilometres (416 miles). So I beleive this will be the Tesla competition for the coming year's. Regards
Would you be able to do a new video on Tesla depreciation values comparing to other makes and models?
As I recall, the Semi uses the smaller Panasonic batteries, which allows for the rapid charging and power out, due to the ability to cool the packs. The Tesla Plaid cars also utilize these smaller batteries, for the same reason. The competition seem to at this time have no answer for this. I suspect it is just a matter of time for them, though.
Now when we know the Semi can do 500 miles fully loaded, the question is how many miles it can make when half loaded? That should extend the range still, but nobody says by how much - the info would be interesting.
Probably not a great deal of difference in rang, circa 10 percent
It can easily be calculated, as a lesser load reduce rolling resistance, and there are empirical formula to estimate that.
I shall do it later, but my first guesstimate is that a 650-700-mile range should be reachable with a 50% load.
@ thanks! And I would have hoped for a similar figure - because for all practical purposes, most loads won't be maximum, and then when you see such figures as 700 miles, many deniers might shut up and think again.
@@Alarix246 ok, I did the calculation. It is not exact as I do not know some of the parameters going into the formula, and had to guesstimate them. So, the range extension with a 50% payload of ca. 22’500 lb (not 50% of the total weight) is less than I initially guesstimated. I come to 580-620 miles… No way it reaches 650-700 miles!
But it’s ok, even in long-haul transport, the limit is the legal driving hours, not the battery capacity, as long as it is above a certain minimum… and the Tesla Semi definitely is!
Could be a huge matter for autonomous driving as is offering up a vastly greater "look" for the acquisition of *"King of the Road"* data both external but also internal as well. Unlike the rest of the current Tesla offerings there are military logistic applications and in a big way for this particular ptoduct. For reference an Abrams Tank fully dressed out can weigh in at 80 tons...or more. Also to my knowledge the Tesla Semi has always been rear wheel drive not all wheel drive. An all wheel drive all electric semi would be a game changer for the trucking Industry if that were to come about great presentation as usual Cleanerwatt great comments as well😊😊
The numbers and endorsements are very impressive. This is a diesel semi killer.
Been out a long time now. Not a game changer.
@@kenth151 Not sure what your trying to say but the video refutes any idea that this truck won't sell and it's made clear that the last few years have been mainly testing. Ultimately it's not out as in not yet available in mass sales numbers. It is a game changer.
@@kenth151 If you grew a few brain cells it would be a game changer for you.
No mention of Edison Motors? They certainly have a great hybrid semi
Tesla semi alone is easily another $1trillion in valuation once the rest of world has the opportunity to buy them.
The rest of the world will buy chinese trucks. Tesla has fluffed around for too long.
1.7 miles per kWh equates to about 69 mpg. That compares to an average of 6-8 mpg for an average diesel semi.
1.7 kwh/mile = 8 MPG There are about 16 usable KWH. in a gallon of diesel. 2 kwh a mile equels 8 mpg.. If you buy overnight electricity at 15 cents delivered. 15 times 16 = $ 2.40 VS $ 3,40 for diesel. I think this comment is about observational comprehension. The trucks average 1.7 KWH a mile..
@@kkarllwt You think that these companies are going to pay retail for electricity? And apparently your retail is almost twice what mine is. They would never do something like install solar and megapacks and do daily arbitrage with the grid. Oh no they will never do that. And they will never do the same at charging stations (they already have). So while you are talking about accuracy of computation, you may as well take reality into account.
Might be worth looking at the Windrose E1400 sometime?
There are videos about this truck by a guy in England,
If Tesla were to cover their factory roofs with solar panels to power the Reno factories, the reduction in grid-power, which likely comes from Hoover Dam south of Vegas, there should be a significant amount of water saved that would otherwise be used in power generation by the dam's water turbine generators. Hoover's current long-term water shortage has virtually emptied the dam which also supplies drinking and irrigation water to Los Angeles, Southern California, and Arizona. If you go to Vegas, I highly recommend the dam tour which was extensive and very well done when I was there 20 years ago.
There are panels on the roof of the battery factory right there in NV. I expect Tesla will add them to the Semi roof when the building is finished.
I don't think you have run the numbers, Use 18 watts a sq. ft. 70% roof fill, 6 hours a day.
Tesla's slogan should be "On a whole other level". Cos that's where they really are!
No they are not.
@@kenth151explain?
@@kenth151 You unfailingly prove your ignorance time and time again.
Time will tell. We really only have information provided by the proprietors, at this stage. Both Frito Lay and Saia are in partnership with Tesla and are no doubt burdened by significant NDA's and in Frito Lay's case, the California state government has footed a significant amount of the bill. At the end of the day, this is just taxpayer funded T&E.
When "real" customers start parting with their own money and aren't subject to NDA's, then we will be able to make a genuine and realistic appraisal of the vehicles.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Correction: You only have information provided by proprietors, because you do not know how to find actual unbiased info. You have already proven that in these comments many times. If I were you, I would not trust anything you think.
Will the charging infrastructure be ready for the Tesla Fleet?
Yes they build it as needed by the current customers.
Regular routes help a lot…
In my opinion that for long haul it clearly is not and will be a challenge to roll out due to the big increase in power needed. Permits, utility company upgrades to deliver the power where needed etc. The good news is that the factory won't open at anywhere near 50,000 capacity so expansion will happen in concert although I think surely slower than trucks can be built.
From what I have read, the engineers say the grid will be ready.
@@SkyRiver1 That does surprise me. That they can somehow deliver the absolutely massive increase in power needed.
@@tmog1000 It all comes down to the available current on a given circuit and that is dependent on a number of factors such as the time of day, time of year and temperature.
For this to be a success, Tesla are going to have to be very careful with their strategy in locating chargers and their dissemination of vehicles. Not many transport companies are going to take kindly to reduced or unavailable power on the West Coast on a hot summer's day, and that is something that they are going to have to take into account.
The next step will be Refer trailers. Those are powered by diesel too. Might lose another 1000lbs of cargo weight capacity, but I imagine a battery powered refer trailer will be WAY quieter than the diesel one.
Refers are a huge user of diesel keeping our food cold in transit. I agree.
Would be awesome if Tesla builds RVs at some point based on this work.
Tesla is an absolute ass kicker ball buster. Competition surrenders.
Meanwhile more than 3000 semis are running in Europe on a regular basis. Not Tesla, but Mercedes, IVECO, Volvo, MAN, Renault and DAF. Their batteries have up to 730KWh and they drive up to 370 miles. Or you wait for a Tesla.
That's not how the dynamic works, when semis need replacing, if Teslas are available Teslas will be purchased. No waiting necessary, some semi purchases will be in the past or the now, and more will be in the future. I can't believe that people just make up imaginary parameters and then think they are real, such as, "Or you wait for a Tesla." Seems to mean something but it really means nothing.
In Europe, drivers have to take a 45 minute break after 4 hours of driving which makes a Tesla Semi rather pointless. I guess, regulations differ in the US.
At 250k$ X 50,000 trucks per year = 12 billions of revenue. 😮
Most of the saLES WILL BE DAY TRUCKS IN THE $17O K / 190K RANGE.
Has Tesla and Pepsi committed to filling out Pepsi's fleet?
You mean, "has the California State Government and the US Federal Government committed to filling out Pepsi's fleet"? They paid for 18 out of the 21 trucks that Pepsi has.
Surely, Musk as head of D.O.G.E. will put an end to such waste and corporate socialism.
The Electric truck landscape is changing as we speak. This year, mid 2025, Volvo will produce the 600 km range heavy truck. Many European manufacturers are planning to produce similar trucks for customers 2025. Still, Tesla Semi truck needs to comply with various regulations around the globe to be able to compete globally.
You need to show the exact numbers with the fuel on board. At least give a chart that shows how much gas weighs per gallon.
Diesel floats. a little less than water. 8.5 lbs a gallon
@@gregkelmis2435 Gas weighs + or - 6# / gallon
@ thank you I was just too lazy to Google it. LOL
In RUclips comments on another video, a person claiming to be a truck driver for 30 years said he drove the Tesla semi for a month. He said he never wants to drive a diesel semi truck again. That tells me all I need to know about how good it is from a driver perspective. Pepsi also verified it is much cheaper to operate I think it was 35% cheaper but I don’t remember exactly. If it is cheaper and drivers like it way more, that means it will take over the market.
Money talks baby.
A question : 1.73 kWh/mile is 5 to 9x more as a Model Y, no ?
My model 3 averages between 0.2 and 0.25 kWh per mile
John is Wolverine
Very nice of u to say that 🤦♂️
Nicola? Is that the 9ne that can drive uphill too?
cool
What is the battery capacity of a tesla semi?
Presumably around 70kwh?
Cost of semi compared to a diesel truck?
About 900kwh
The cost is a good question. When they first introduced them, it was almost 10 years ago, I think???
The 500 mile truck was supposed to be 180,000 dollars, and the 350 mile truck was supposed to be 150,000 dollars. But I guess it will be significantly more, but how much more is the question.
Ultimately though, the cost per mile is going to be a major selling point.
It will depend on how you use it. 250 miles a day? 500/600 kwh pack.
how much sales will be sell 50000 semi tesla trucks?
at 150K per truck ur looking at 7.5 B... in added revenue
If the trucks are 200,000 $ then 50,000 sales would be 10 billion revenue.
I guess it will be some years 2-5 years at least to get up to full production.
Has anyone reached out to Bill Gates for comment?
😂😂😂
You expect viewers in a comment section to have an answer. Siri might. Try her.
Gawd.
I did. He said what Tesla is doing is not possible and he is pissed about the billions he lost shorting Tesla.
@@SkyRiver1 That has made me really happy that Bill Gates being pissed.
😁Good day from Goonellabah, NSW, Australia.
I am embarking on a significant six-month journey. I'll be circumnavigating Australia in two CYBERTRUCKs and a Tesla Semi, covering a substantial 22,000 kilometres. This journey is set to commence at the end of February 2025. Elon shall help me. - 🤗Cheers, Ian Cleland
트럭은 진짜..테슬라 세미로 다 바꿔라........배기가스 그것만 해도 바꿀 가치는 무조건 있다. 지구를 위해서..그리고 비용도 졸라 감소. 안 살 이유가 없다. 야들은 제품이 너무 너무 좋아. 머스크가 인류애가 있어서..정말 다행이야.
You know tens of thousands of people die every year in the USA because of vehicle exhaust, they just don't know why their complications are arising. Also it has been shown by studies that people who live in congested areas with a lot of traffic have shorter lives.
It's so magnificent only in USA. In Europe we already have electric trucks from established manufacturers that are as good as Tesla.
Which ones?
@@Cleanerwatt Scania, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, Iveco. Basically all of the mainstream truck producers have at least one full size electric truck in their lineup.
Kind of odd, and amusing, to see the great man's first and last name on lists and graphs.
There are other Class 8 and lower, EV trucks out there on the market. (eCascadia) comes to mind, Freightliner has a charging hub(s) in the PNW to help drive C8 adoption. Tesla is not the only game in town, FYI . But a step in the right direction.
Yeah, but these kind of things usually result in a winner-takes-most dynamic. Especially when the winner is so vastly superior as in this case. And once the line is up, you can safely bet that Tesla will built its semis for less and faster than the competition. Though I doubt that Tesla will ever get into heavy heavy equipment. There are T-Rex type vehicles used for mining that are all electric and don't even need to be plugged in because they are so much heavier coming down the mountains loaded that they are able to recoup enough energy to drive back up unloaded.
@@SkyRiver1 It remains to be seen who that winner will be. Maybe Tesla will be the one. Who knows? What a lot of commentors are ignoring is that Tesla is now very late to market, giving its competitors a great advantage in "real" world experience and a huge lead in sales. Tens of thousands of electric semis and heavy rigids have been sold worldwide. Hyundai, Volvo, BYD... the list goes on. Tesla, more than seven years after announcing their product are still in the testing and evaluation stage and while they have
partnered with freight carriers for this purpose, they really still haven't even sold a truck. Make of that what you will.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 This is what I make of it, Tesla designed a whole new vehicle from the ground up to be an EV, just like they do with their cars. Which is why they are superior in almost every regard to other EVs outside of the ones in China that have copied their manufacturing tech. Other companies like BMW, VW, GM, etc just tried to modify the ICE vehicles they already make, and basically outsourced their software to dozens and in some cases hundreds of companies. That in most cases would not even share data with each other. That's why they suck.
It take longer to do it right from first principles with the best engineers in house. Being first does not always translate into anything meaningful. GM was first in modern EVs then like the geniuses they are, they stopped production and crushed all the EV1 cars.
@@SkyRiver1 The model S, the model 3 and the Y. All exceptional vehicles. Then there's the Cyber Truck.
I'm keeping an open mind.
Time will tell as to which category the semi falls into. Maybe the extra T&E time is to Tesla's advantage. Maybe it's still nowhere near ready for market and they don't want a repeat of the CT. We just don't know.
Let's face it, it can barely haul its own enormous battery.
Self driving semi trucks by 2030
Long before that.
I would love this truck to tow a fifthwheel RV, it's efficiency is better than a Chevy Silverado EV towing a RV.
Be even more efficient because of the light weight.
I find it weird that Tesla Semi leads the field in range while the Cybertruck has such crappy range compared to competition of full size EV pickup trucks
Bc small battery
@ I mean why did they roll out a vehicle like Cybertruck with crappy range. Why did they put a small battery in it
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0:38 this simply isn't true. Got look at the European EV truck scene, the Tesla semi is not class leading in any category other than maybe autopilot.
Which European trucks?
As a truck driver, the seat looks nice, hard to judge? Lots of cup holders which is nice. No binnacle, that would be a pain in the rear.
Honestly, I had to Google that new word "binnacle" ... which among other things, stems from Latin for "little dwelling place." So I am assuming you mean a room behind the driver, probably with a cot, possibly a very small sink counter, and a TV or display for downtime comfort and rest. I believe I have heard that such facilities may become available as Tesla Semi options, perhaps.
@hemaccabe4292 What do you mean by "binnacle" in this context? Dashboard? Most drivers of Tesla cars find the slightly offset big screen easy to adapt to.
@@WarrenLacefield Binnacle is also described as a dashboard.
@@grahammonk8013 Yeah, I’m sure it’s caused plenty of accidents in Teslas. I don’t want to get used to it. I want my instruments where they belong which is much more important on a truck.
BYD cars can charge at 500 so I’m sure they can upgrade the charging graph pretty easily
Tesla 🚛SEMI =
⚰️R. I. P. scam compagny Nikola Motor
So if SALA has received 2 simis does that mean WalMart Canada
has received the 125 trucks they ordered what? 2 years ago? 3?
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it's S A I A :)
As a side note, and as I understand it, Pepsi has recently received their 100th.
The Semi delay has allowed the Chinese to catch up. ruclips.net/video/Tnmuu9aXH3g/видео.htmlsi=sqzaG3LmlqVc7KfH
Man they are late
I think it is causing a bad name for elon
Before and just after the pandemic, there was a a battery shortage and a lithium price spike, The batteries went to cars . There is now a glut of batteries and prices have fallen under $100 KWH.
@kkarllwt do you think they are serious about roadster ?
As a truck driver, I hate that center seat position.
You hate the thought, but until you try something you really don't know. I'm a farmer that has driven a decent amount of semi and central seating is the best in tractors, sprayers, combines etc... so much so that if they were to move the seating of any equipment I've ever operated from the center to the side I think it would be a regression. One thing I can think of that's better is the door location can keep mud/dirt/water contained and the driving area clean and it's so far forward that it looks like it will be awesome as a sleeper. The only negative I can think of is can't stick your head out window to back up, but the camera systems will be so good I think it more than make up for it. Plus once they get the auto backup working you won't even have to worry about that.
@@ianteetzel All good points. I have NOT driven a lot of farm equipment but I HAVE put a lot of miles on semi's. That second front seating position is very valuable in a semi, especially when dealing with passengers, like say, team drivers. Also, I have to stick my hand out the left window, ALOT. That looks like it will be awkward at best. Not sure how/if the door position will help keep crud out. Didn't comment on that, but climbing up on the sissy bar on a typical truck is a great opportunity to deal with filth OUTSIDE the cab and that seems lost. However, like how comfortable the seat is, many details can't be known until people actually get to use them. I AGREE about the sleeper. With a cab forward location, I would think the entire tractor could be shorter and still give excellent sleeper function. I will point out that I expect fewer sleepers in the near future, but anything's possible. If they really did come up with auto-backup, that would be awesome.
@@hemaccabe4292 👍 their ultimate goal is complete autonomy. Hopefully they can achieve it to increase profitability per capita and drive down inflation.
Local trucks that are back in the yard for the night and can charge there will be the first sector they're targeting. The savings will be huge. Around $30,000 annually for a truck that travels 100,000 km annually.
If you haven't driven a Tesla take one for a spin. An extended one is best. We rented one off Turo for a road trip. They are 10-20 years ahead of every other auto company, except many some Chinese, and it's clear that the future will be fully electric and autonomous. I really like innovation and tech so I'm really looking forward to it.
@@ianteetzel Most semi's have to back in wherever they go. As someone who has backed in many a semi many times, it can be an unpleasant chore. As a trick, backing in a semi is only 10 to 100 times harder than parallel parking a car, so doable. Even if Tesla could just get me some cameras in the right spots, that would be huge.
If the TS is successful, I could imagine an ecosystem of shippers developing who would provide charging while the TS is at their door in exchange for some credit on their shipping costs. Obviously, diesel is a big cost, if they can change diesel out for cheaper electricity, would be a big boost, but first, the TS has to work!
Just because a Tesla car is nice, does NOT mean the TS will work or have a driving experience ANYTHING like the car. No, no Chinese EV makers are profitable and they do NOT have better tech in ANY area. I am not convinced yet on that all electric and autonomous future, a lot of hurdles to overcome before we get there, some of which may not be so easy to jump. We'll see how it goes.
@@hemaccabe4292 We bought a model y in the may. Have put 55,000 km on it since then. Crazy eh. It's awesome. I'm never buying another gas vehicle. We were spending $1000 a month on gas for the vehicle it replaced. Now we're spending a couple hundred a month on electricity charging at night. No doubt in my mind the Tesla Semi will replace all but remote driven semi's. It's going to take a couple decades or so to build out the charging infrastructure for the long haul crew, which is somewhere around 1/2 the class 8 semi fleet. For a fleet with 30-40 trucks that drives 3-3.5m km annually the saving is around $1m that's some insensitive to make it work lol.
what alternative reality is this video from?
The "Just the facts mam." reality.
Space Karen has a massive army who he pays to shill his -rubbish- products. This is a fact.
TWO Tesla Semis? Is that a JOKE? Saia runs THOUSANDS of trucks; this is nothing but a virtual signalling token effort.
Like how fucking long does it tesla take to get the semi into volume production?
3:17 not any longer, mercedes eactros 600 at 311 miles, the competition isn't still in 2022 like you and tesla.
Regarding the missing megawatt charging network, it seems to me the best approach would be to simply add backup battery packs to existing stations, vs upgrading substations or battery swapping like they do in china. That way you charge the ground based batteries in the background so they can discharge at 1 mw when needed. Also takes care of utility demand peaks, just like tesla is selling to utilities, they might as well do it themselves two birds with one stone. Otoh as said before I think utilities need to change and expand their offerings to include operating charging stations. It's the logical progression.
But actually the large capacity tesla semis with 500miles range do not need a megawatt charger, since that is typically enough range for a trucker's allowed daily drive time, ie can charge when asleep. Which of course is by design.
Also, us truck transportation is 25% of total traffic, so the personal vehicle ev transition is more important and it doesn't matter so much how much slower trucking adoption is.
About a thousand times less than it would take you to do the same thing.
They should go with a battery swap model so they can charge at slower rates because running 1.2MW of new powerline per charger will be expensive.
Not a bad idea, but something tells me Tesla has already considered and rejected it. The engineers at Tesla know what they are doing. The prove it all the time.
Sorry 700kwh
Yeah, but does it have a sleeper berth? But seriously, I hope Tesla will at least design an option for a fold-down cot for trudkers who need a nap, etc.
No, the Tesla Semi does not currently have a sleeper berth, but Tesla has said it could be easily converted. The Semi was designed for day trips. I'm sure when the charging network rolls out more all that will happen since charging only takes 30 minutes
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@mikecranapple8878 I'm pretty sure that an extended cab has been seen. Not heard anything about whether or not Tesla themselves will offer a fit out, but I'm sure many companies can offer such.
They have a sleeper cab design ready to go. It is the same size . The cab just extends back to where the fairing currently is
It was designed to be able to accommodate a sleeper cab but all trucks currently produced are day cabs for depot operations as there is no charging network built out.
Elon boy is on track in doing what needed to be done decades ago one good in all this is the up and coming start ups in batteries builds and electric motors are going to makes a big difference in the coming years .also tesla superchargers being built now is going to be big .
There is one huge problem here that no one is addressing including Congress. There are already brownouts and blackouts in areas of the country where AI Farms are sucking up all the electricity. If 50 - 100,000 Tesla trucks get on the road where is the electricity to charge them going to come from? Obama wanted to upgrade to a Smart grid over 10 years ago but Congress is owned by the petroleum industry. Without renewable electrical generation stations in an upgraded smart grid the semis are great and all but they have no fuel. I love the concept but there are problems that are not being addressed that Congress does not want to address
Last I read key players in electric distribution said the grid will be ready.
Reconductoring alone can increase the grid capacity by 25-40% without any additional grid towers being built and opposes by nimbys! Proven in multiple areas Inc Cali already and biden approved some funds to go towards it.
Best thing about semi is that Elons extreme brand management incompetence won’t matter.
best selling ev in the world, and some places best selling car of all types. Pretty darn incompetent.
@@SkyRiver1 In 2024? I'm pretty sure that you'll find that BYD now has that title.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 BYD counts NEV (new energy vehicles) in their totals, and it is questionable as to whether or not they actually make a profit on them. That includes hybrids, plug in hybrids, BEVs and hydrogen. Tesla only makes BEVs. BYD outsold Tesla for one month, Dec 2024.
My son has been a long distance truck driver for 15 years. He says he doesn't know a single driver that thinks BEV trucks are feasible for anything except short haul routes. Not in his lifetime.
The roadster has 620 miles of range, the semi has 500 which is one charge and your in Florida from Ohio. They are a few changes away from it being viable across all states . After 1,000 miles then you can’t drive anymore your over your hours.
Unveiling in 2017
Production should have started in 2019
By the end of 2022 only a few produced, mainly as driving billboards and public beta test for Pepsi and Tesla.
Now the mass production is planned to start at the end of 2026, so actually getting one before 2027 is highly unlikely.
And to power these behemoths we basically need new nuclear power plants and extreme grid infrastructure able to handle the load thousands of currently non-existent MegaWatt chargers.
I really hope that this will work out better and faster than I expect it to, but I won't hold my breath.
Hilarious how someone removed my comment to the fanboys out there. I speak the truth and the truth gets deleted- too funny.
Probably not. Try posting it again not as a response to someone. If it doesn't show then make or use another RUclips account and post it. I look forward to debunking it.
Battery long haul trucks are not practical.
At the moment.
Pepsi disagrees with you
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China is about to scale driverless semi....
US and West cannot
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Tesla have managed to get a company to try out two of their electric trucks.
It's a couple of years behind schedule and a couple of billion dollars over budget, but it's there.
Yabba-Dabba Dooo.
The market looks ahead even if you do not. Flash!! corporate investors starting to realize just what Tesla is. Flash!! look at the stock price Jocko.
They have around 100 trucks working.