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2:46 "88:30.. If this is Bayer Leverkusen the match hasn't even started yet" 😄
Leverkusen act like my FM teams. Down 4-0 in the 80th minute? No problem score 5 straight and win 5-4 😂😂😂😂
@@wuxiagamescentral Hahaha or me as a 10 year old playing Fifa 05 and "accidenty" switching my gamepad setting to controll the other team when I am down in the last minutes 🙃
French fan here, you've summarized the situation very well, I'm gonna just add a few things about the club's situation :
- Kisnorbo not speaking French was the last of Troyes' fans concern. The main problem was the guy was appointed when the club was 13th in ligue 1, and proceeded to not win a single game until the end of the season, finishing 19th and obviously going down. But the city Group decided to keep him as head coach for the next season. The dude had ZERO wins in (about) fifteen games, and only managed to win three times in half a season in Ligue 2, despite his squad being considered to be among the 5 best in the league
- Also, when Kisnorbo arrived, he was replacing Burno Irles, who was the man who managed to keep Troyes in ligue 1 for the first time in a while, something like ten years. Before the 2021-2022 season Troyes were somewhat of a meme in France due to them being the quintessencial yo-yo club in the country, never being able so stay up in the top flight for more than a season. Irles was fired for no reason despite having archieved the club's greatest managerial accomplishment in the last decade or so.
- And after Kisnorbo was fired, he was replaced with David Guion. Guion is known for two things : getting Troyes' local rival Reims back to ligue 1 and stabilizing them there, and then going to Bordeaux and being a terrible coach there. The fans weren't that mad because at this point anyone but Kisnorbo would do the job, but it was still a weird decision. To put it in perspective, imagine if, 5 years into the future, Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich as a hero, then joins Everton and has the two worst seasons of his career there, and immediately after that he becomes Norwich's head coach. I think the fans wouldn't really feel great about it.
- Dropping in the third tier is terrible news for the club's economic situation. Yes they are still backed by the CFG, but the National is a division where many clubs die economically. While Ligue 2 is still followed by local and even neutral fans in France and generates some money, the National is a semi-professional division, and it's only because because relegated clubs can temporarily keep their professional status after being relegated. And thus, the division is managed by the French Federation, not the French Professional League, and broadcasted for free on the FFF website. Which generates little to no TV revenue. And with the attendances dropping with the relegation, that's a lot of revenue loss.
- And if they fail to promote back quickly, there will be no doubt that the DNCG (the organization that manages clubs finances and decides economic sanctions if necessary) will punish Troyes for that. Currently there are a few teams in the National that didn't expect to drop from Ligue 2 and are in trouble with their Finances : Sochaux (whom you might have heard of last summer), Dijon, or Nîmes (who are another absolute clown show of a club) need to go back up quickly if they don't want to be sent all the way down to the 5th tier of French football.
- Ironically, Troyes could be saved by their coach's former club, Bordeaux. They are in so much economic trouble that they could be sent down in the National by the DNCG this summer, which would leave the 17th placed club to be chosen to stayed in Ligue 2. This happened last season with Annecy and Sochaux, I think you covered the story on your main channel.
Thanks for the video Zealand ! Nice to see you cover football in my country :)
As a United fan, I hope their B team(s) is sent to the amateur leagues.
I ain't reading all of that, big up troyes though.
as an Australian fan, I am sorry about Kisnorbo, I follow Victory, the rival team which Kisnorbo used to manage in Melbourne.
He was given another CFG group team to manage due to City's success, but I think it was more his assistant coaches Petr Kratky (who went to Mumbai FC) who held the team up. Petr has went on and got Mumbai City the national cup
I was wondering what's going on with Nimes, I remember them finishing 9th in Ligue 1 and i was a fan of them after that, but after the virus outbreak it's just getting worse every year. They had some decent players like Fomba, Briancon, Ripart etc. but it just went downhill. Then some time ago i read an article which said they were in big big financial problems and that some players had to sleep in their cars when they played away games because they couldn't afford hotels or whatever. I liked the club and the logo especially, i think its amazing so i took them in FM24 literally 2 daya ago and found out through Fm that they're rebuilding their old stadium which had 18k capacity down to 15k capacity, while right now playing in a 8k capacity, temporary stadium, which was built between 2020 and 2022. Apparently the owner bought the old stadium from the city or whatever and decided on the new one... The article also said that the stadium rebuilding will cost around 8mil so now I'm wondering how tf they have money for that but not for, probably, more important things? And now crazy enough, i come across this video and u talking about French football and mentioning them... If u see this comment could u please explain more to me because im interested.
P. S. I guided them back to Ligue 2 in the first season and brought Opoku from Amiens, Claude Maurice from Nice and Kone (left back formerly of Lyon and Lille) all for free, so yeah life is good for them at least in my save...
Speaking as an NYC FC fan, we know what it's like to reap all the benefits from being a City Group team only to then barely get anything to improve the squad when their attention drifts elsewhere. Being part of a multi-country franchise doesn't help that much when you're lower on the totem pole.
Hahaha I feel the same way as a NY Red Bull fan. They sure gave our city the short end of the stick. ❤🐂
@@matthewhernandez8342 At least we can agree on that. The days of people like David Villa playing for us or Thierry Henry playing for you feel like a long time ago now. But if we get a Hudson River Derby to decide the East (y'know, if Inter Messi don't continue to bulldoze over the rest of us), maybe that'll make our owners pay attention again. (It would also, more importantly, be HYPE AS FUCK). ❤🐦
@@matthewhernandez8342you only exist to sell Red Bull
2 different sides of the hudson having a normal conversation??? What am I seeing?
@@stephenthatfootballguy You’re gonna see us win the Hudson River Derby tomorrow! Let’s go Newark Red Bull’s!! ❤️🐂
FIFA & UEFA needs to tackle this. No multiple owner constructions!!!!
At least no transfers and loans between them.
@@DMFroomeror at least force the club that’s buying them to pay full market value
Troyes is living the shadow of City's shiny reputation. Hope they can find a way out of this mess City has dug and thrown them in
They’ll just spend more money than everybody else and get promoted to ligue 1 in back to back promotions as soon as city group realizes that it benefits them to own multiple successful clubs like Girona. At some point I expect them to throw money at the problem
You're missing the best part, which is that the flare-throwing back and forth happened AFTER THE GAME HAD ALREADY BEEN INTERRUPTED AT THE 85th MINUTE BECAUSE SOME FLARES WERE BEING THROWN ON THE PITCH
I find it reduces that multi-club ownership is allowed, club's with history, fans, and culture are relegated to a reserves team, no ambition for the owners or care, just a way to profit there "larger" more marketable teams. Disgusting! One of the worst fates for a club.
Troyes is the septic tank of the City Group machine
Hey now, I'm sure those were long and protracted negotiations that saw City finally sign Savio.
Fun fact; CFG is looking into acquiring Başakşehir in Turkish top flight! They are a a fairly good side who are always stuck in the shadow of the other Istanbul teams being the 4th best İstanbul club always and top 10 or in the league commonly. (Expect for 2019-2020 where the big 3 all kinda collapsed and they won the league ahead of Trabzon, the usual 4th) They however are still one of the bigger clubs of Turkey and have the potential to be a future giant.
No hate to Başakşehir, but ever since I watched HITC's video on their link to Erdogan, I just can't support them right now when I fucking despise Erdogan. That guy's a total piece of shit.
Ike is a baby in South Park, the Swedish club is named A-I-K, just spell it out.
Sacre bleu (with rizz)
Oh my word, I knew that Troyes wasn't having a good time, but I didn't realise that it was going so badly.
You should check out the Irish Guy's reaction to his championship prediction...its hilarious and its worth it😂
Nothing corrupt to see
“That time of the year I’m not running again😂”
Man I’m so grateful to be a German football fan
Completely off topic but I found a weird piece of soccer history on a Wikipedia rabbit hole you might want to investigate/make a video on. Futsal at the 2006 Lusofonia Games (basically the commonwealth games for former Portuguese territories), specifically Portugal's 56 goal win and Brazil's 76 goal win over Timor-Leste (over a goal per minute). I consider myself kind of an expert on weird soccer history but had zero clue this happened until now.
finally the beard is back
Not the first time a player from the city group has thrown flairs into the stands (Melbourne city vs Melbourne Victory)
Did you go on a run today?
the pronunciation of troyes is acc spot on, was expecting the average american “troy’s” pronunciation
*I can read a map too*
I hope he didn't ate any turtles...
As a City fan, we need to do better.
It's an epidemic, OK maybe not an epidemic but a few teams seemed to be in utter chaos , Nancy, Nimes and I think someone else have gone from Ligue 1 to the 3rd or potentially 4th tier
I guess Troyes misunderstood the Loan song
Just would like to point out that valenciennes reached the semi finals of the french cup, so while they arent consistent, they can light up a game on their day
But Zealand, you hairline-receding renegade, did you run before this?
man, I can't even imagine my club being just an assett for the city group. Oh, wait, yes I can, I was born in Salvador, I'm a Bahia fan... Fucking hell.
Dont they also own Yokohama F Marinos in J League?
Savio is unreal in FM24, especially after the winter update. Unlike in real life, he never leaves Troyes. He's a world class player playing in the third division of France.
The match was played at Troyes not Valenciennes. It's the ultra from Troyes.
Hey, i know how they feel. CFG isnt easy if you arent Man City or Girona. Our average age is 23 years old. We arent here to win for them, we are here to develop players and make them money or sell them to our big bros these days. Its obviously different from when we won MLS cup, but we're in it too
88:30; If it's Leverkusen the Game hasn't even started yet!
Well looking back at Qarabag that is absolutely true. 😂
In a friendly against their second team, the following sentence might be said: Troy trois, Troy deux trios. (Say that out loud)
Is French even a language? I think they just make up sounds as they go.
I know all languages do this, but it's always more fun to pick on the French. 😂
It's sad to see what's going on with french football.
Not that far back french clubs were competitive on the european stage. But because of missmanagement everything went downhill and Covid made everything worse. The french FA sold their soul and future forever to have a short-term solution for the financial problems. And now french football is on the last steps to become the next Netherlands and Belgium. A cheap talent farm for clubs from other nations.
6:30 you probably meant it correctly, but it kinda sounds like you're saying psv is part of the city group as well, which it obviously isn't.
Those players are dead for Troyes ultras, believe me.
But if they did this in like Poland or Greece....ooh boy
Hey Zeeland can you talk about the Kendrick and Drake beef?
I wouldn't want to pick a fight with ol kisnorbo. Man's a bulldozing warrior.
You'll never beat kisnorbo
Under 3k views in an hour. Zealand fell down under harder than Australia
Talk about Olympiakos they changed three managers in a season having a bad start to the season and now they are in the semi final against Aston Villa in the conference league and their U21 won the equivalent of the champions League winning 3-0 against Milan
Feel for Troyes. City group is awful, can't fund Troyes properly, but they can make a near 100M signing every season for Manchester City.
There's something called ffp that doesn't allow you to spend more than you earn
@@zubairatif lol what no way. I understand that but they're not being strategic at all with their signings, look at Girona. They're just making signings to just get by and evidently they're not even doing that. The coach was clearly not a good fit, doing well Australia isn't enough merit to get a job in France where the team is fighting relegation.
In 2015 Manchester City acquired Melbourne City best player Aaron Mooy on a free transfer and later so him for €9m to Huddersfield. Pure FFP manipulation.
They aren’t ignoring Troyes, they’re simply using Troyes
Not to be that guy, but Nice is 5th in France and MUtd is 8th in England, so we can argue that MU is THE feeder club of Nice, not the opposite. If anything, Nice can still qualify for the Champions League next season and are the better-run club.
I have savio in my fm save lol
Run. Ran. Running.
The city group should buy monster
this is why owners shouldn’t be allowed to own multiple clubs, or at least not able to sign or loan players to/from these players
Man City played at tier 3 in England 98/99 season. Maybe they will be as good as City in 20 years or so😂
City's Girona did beat Barca to decide the title... for Real
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City Group: Hi me how much would I sell this wonder kid to le me.
City Group: Hi me I was thinking me would buy me's player for a half eaten bag of chips eaten by me and a commemerative mug saying how awesome me is.
City Group: me agrees with me's compensation and believes me and me will have a great future cooperation
One more reason why City needs to be giga punished 🙄
Is this really the new house?
Thumbs up for "MLS" not "the MLS"
50+1 rule and ban all foreign investment
Even with the 50 +1 rule like the one in Germany, there is a RB Leipzig who has really hard negotiations with RB Salzburg in Austria or RB New York in the USA.
@@lukasstammschroer8500 That's why Erling Haaland played for Leipzig
@@lukasstammschroer8500 atleast with Leipzig you know what your'e getting, and that they focus on player development that generally benefits Germany as a whole as long as they don't become dominant. With the city group it's all clearly about profit in a different way, because they don't care about developing players for any of the teams at all, they just care about man city winning
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Thos channel is good but the comments are worthless. Why is everyone here under 10 years old?
14 clubs in city group yaaay.. lol dont
Such people arent fans, they are just a-holes
conflict of interest at its finest
Fm rebuild anyone?
Clearly hate Manchester United! 😂
Clearly....
"I'm not one of those Americans, I know a map." Gotta be honest Z, that's exactly what one of those Americans would say. I know because I'm also, sometimes unfortunately, American.
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I see... so Zealand doesn't hate Manchester United, he hates the whole city of Manchester. Liverpool fanboy confirmed. 😀
I'm just kidding.
It's bad management not because they're destroying a club (nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint), but because they let it fall from first division into oblivion when they could have kept sucking the blood out of it for another 5 or 10 years. Letting a feeder club be relegated back to back (and thereby making them useless as a feeder club) is just careless.
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Ban this ridiculous multi club ownership stuff. Shouldn't be allowed.
Modern football sucks. Way too many of these feeder clubs and money in general ruining football
It’s because their French
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Gods you're fucking annoying
No comments in 1 hour....You fell off lad
2155 views in 49 mins you fell off buddy