I have raced my charger RT against my friends stinger and mine is stock and I beat him by 2 seconds and my front end raises way more than that so I think they are working with Kia... but I could be wrong
@@lucasfabbricino2713 i am glad you have beaten him in the middle of the road while the other driver was potentially sh***** his pants for cops…cmon people let’s get real now.
Owner of the daytona here, to anyone saying I wasn’t pushing the car or wasn’t redlining it, trust me i was, i was shifting at the 5.7’s redline. either way this was a super fun day and very interesting to see how well the stinger did, I expected nothing less going into it! Thank you again Sam for the invite out!
@@3KRacing Thank you! and some people just need to relax on here, its all for fun and you gotta give respect where its deserved, Kia made a beast of a car thats for sure! bought my car for the looks and sound, its quick enough for me :D
@@ByAlzne Exactly! A car can be an extension of oneself for some, or the sound and vibe of a vehicle is more important or for some how quick it goes a quarter mile is why ppl want/like a specific car. Ppl out here acting like they are the ones dropping thousands on the car of their personal choice, and the audacity to talk crap is beyond me 🤷🏽♂️. Again dope vehicle, sounds amazing and still plenty fast! Peace bro
Doesn't surprise me at all. The Stinger has AWD advantage, and it's also lighter than the Charger with very similar HP numbers. Both are still really great cars!
I can’t believe this.. As a former owner of the Charger Hemi and a Proud Current owner of the GT Stinger I cannot believe the Stinger walked the Charger like that just WOW
@@-that_boytrippin-7652 I see your a big dodge fan but it's funny how my mustang destroyed that 6.4l hemi too its not that fast. Everybody just done jumped on dodge band wagon all of sudden
Dodge Charger can install the Mopar Cold Air Intake and still be considered stock and within warranty. It will receive a little bit of extra horsepower gain.
Funnily enough just yesterday I was arguing with some Mopar lover on fb about how great the Stinger is and he was saying it was trash and his 2014 RT would " destroy " it in a drag lol. I'm boutta go share this on that post 😎
Wait until those twin turbos start needing maintenance, which are the key ingredient of the Stinger's power boost. I'd rather have a naturally aspirated V8 over a turbo or supercharged V6 or 4 cylinder. Cool car though.
@Catholic Firefighter LOL you are still thinking that Korea is an ally of the US? Maybe back then but recently absolutely not. Former US Ambassador to Korea Mark Lippert was stabbed in Korea by some deranged anti-American pro-Commie Korean who there are many. Speaking of Ambassador, Korea also treated next US Ambassador Harry Harris who used to be a top ranking military personnel in the US Navy very poorly calling him all sorts of names. As you know, in America treating a military personnel or veteran, especially such a higher rank and influential one like that is absolutely unacceptable. Not to mention people destroying statues of McArthur, amongst others, their recent action cannot fool the US. Not only that Hyundai is a conglomerate chaebol owned by Chung family who is originally from the North (just like the current Commie China installed puppet Moon) who is very cozy with Commie China and Kim regime.
Hey Sam, I raced a RT 5.7 Hemi this past weekend too and loaded those 2 races on my channel for all to see. They are cool cars and sound nice.. Too bad it's just not tuned to at least be a bit faster, so it's at least half sec. faster 1/4 mile would be a fair balance for that cars weight etc.. It did very well on a roll, as do most V8's.. Thanks to Jake for bringing it out for a fun time...... PS ... Note, My stinger from a dig was much closer to the 392 Scats, than this RT was to this stinger... :-)
@@lilmoris1 I agree. I have the OG 18 GT and I’m usually too much of a wimp to race it for ticket and insurance purposes but now this has got me wanting to race anything on the road lol
More opponent interaction would be nice. Are they ALL camera shy? At least humanize them and have a real chat, not over the walkie talkie at the end, or are you still isolating?
Yeah, and even when the driver switch didn't change the result, people on here are still blaming the Charger owner's poor driving skills for the Charger's loss.
I was looking for this comment. THANK YOU. somebody knows wtf they’re looking at, and hearing…this is awd vs 2wd…. Plus the awd has twin turbos…make it a fair drag race THEN gloat..
I just sold my 2019 GT2 Ceramic Silver to VROOM for more than I bought it for a year and a half ago! I loved it but my wife didn’t want to ride in it so it sat in the garage! Enjoy your most amazing automobile!
I would love to see a race between a 2018-2021 2.0T Stinger vs the new for 2022 Stinger with the 2.5T. Just so we can see how much the acceleration has improved with the new 2.5T. Preferably both rwd cars. That same 2022 Stinger vs the K5 GT or Sonata N-Line would be interesting, especially because the Stinger isn't equipped with the same 8spd DCT.
I just purchased a brand new 2021 Stinger 2.0. I looked at the 2022 model but did not open the hood and did not research the cars before buying. The Salesman told me everything was the same between the 2 years. I got a heavy discount on the loaded 2021 and took it home. I then found out the 2022 comes with a 2.5. Needless to say I was pissed. I went to dealer and they did nothing about their idiot salesman not knowing about cars. So I just ordered an Injen CAI, Racechip GT black, and NGK race plugs. This should put me around 300hp from the stock 250. So I will see how much the car improves.
Love the sound of that Hemi but Stinger and Genesis G70 have a great twin turbo engine! Love your videos, Sam. And thank you for the driver switch. Was interested to see if there would be any difference with that.
As a Kia stinger gt2 owner I can tell you one problem is that even in sport the revs are kept relatively low. So if you're going to do a roll race you need to use the paddle shifters to keep the revs up right before you launch. I think that's why the hemi got a jump each time.
What I find really funny is that we're even comparing a 3.3 l V6 to a 6.2 or 6.4 l V8 with that alone Kia gains my respect even if the Dodge guys don't want a man up and keep it 💯
You will love it, Iv'e had my baby for two years, it's so much fun to drive. Can't wait to get my Borla and tips end of the month :) I have always like the Chargers too, I really like the Hell cats but they are way too expensive to buy down under.
Oh I can imagine it, cause I lived one tuned and modded with everything you can think of, was running 500 hp and 520 torque, it smoked every charger rt or GT Mustang. Car was badass. Sold it cause I moved to Florida and was gonna end up in trouble of I didn't. So now I have another Stinger gt2 rwd with just a windbooster on accelerator pedal, and its badass enough. I also have a Genesis G70 rwd sport with a windbooster also, and its a little faster then the Stinger cause it's a bit lighter, but both cars are sweet runners. BTW, my wife drives the Stinger mostly, and I drive the G70.
@@TheRedRaven_ 100% worth it on the cheaper end. If you want a solid ecu/tcu tune. Lap 3 is the way to go. I’m 100% satisfied with the gains from the jb4, I have fbo and custom intercooler to pair with my intakes.
Having forced induction makes a much flatter and higher power curve. Giving the advantage to the Stinger. Forced induction makes a much higher and level power curve compared to a na engine. Still fun to watch. I'd love to see a twin turbo 5.7 Challenger. Then, this race would be the exact opposite. Great video. This one goes to the stinger.
If the 5.7 was twin turbo it would also be substantially higher horsepower and torque. So whatever point you were trying to make isn't really relevant.
@@Wolf.diesel , explaining power curves is pointless to someone that doesn't race cars. Or the difference between horsepower and torque. It's too bad your mind isn't open to a nice conversation about 2 cars racing and what changes can impact the race. AWD makes a huge difference on the street. But. Racing on a prepped track with drag radials will drastically change the launch of the rwd cars. Even though in this case. The power curve of the stinger still would have won. If you don't have anything constructive to say about the video. This conversation is over.
@@billhoman694 I never said I wasn't open to a conversation, so you're going out on a limb and making a massive assumption. My point is that this, from the way it appears, is just a simple run what you brought race between two stock vehicles with street tires. So to say that if the Charger was twin turbo doesn't really make sense. Yes I understand that the way the power hits changes things greatly, but to ignore the horsepower and torque gains from adding twin turbos to the 5.7 seems short sighted. That's an entirely different scenario, and one in which you'd have to modify the Stinger to keep it at least relatively fair.
370 horsepower is very underpowered by todays standards. Basically every other V8 on the market currently makes at least 400HP. 5.0 in the Mustangs makes about 460 now, was 435 6.2 in the Camaro makes 455 5.7 Hemi in R/T chargers and challengers still make 370, not sure why so underpowered. I’m guessing because of Dodges marketing… I think they want people buying Scat Packs with the 6.4s making 480 which is actually good for how heavy those cars are. Basically you have to spend more money if you actually want speed and power, the R/T’s are just for people who want the V8 sound I guess and to say they drive a Hemi.
Wow awesome! Makes me love my Stinger even more.. Never realized how much larger the Charger is.. Both awesome car's, dig the Mad scientist hair style 😎👌
the AWD definitely helps. Stock for stock, the charger struggles to stay planted with those tiny tires and torque. You can see his wheels spinning on the view of the 2nd run at the launch. I have a 2015 R/T and put 315 Nitto all seasons and they still spin just a little before they hook on the street.
That all wheel drive really helps out that stinger on the launches wow. But you just can't beat the shift sound and engine sound... Except with a hellcat haha
The kia will gap a hell cat for a 1/8mile but of course the hell cat will win on the big end ..and the hell cat will win in a roll race but off of a dead start the kia is gonna gap it
5.7 Hemis come with very modest ecu tunes. My 03 1500 ram 5.7 became a different animal once I installed a tune with a superchips hand held tuner via the OBD2 port. After the addition of a K&N intake kit and replacing the muffler with a magnaflow it was even better. It went from 8.9 to 8.2 on the 8th mile track.
@@orangejuice-xi3gt Of course it's slower then a car with more horsepower 🤦. We are simply saying the Charger wasn't floored. It's very easy to rig races on RUclips to hype up a car🤷. Not saying the Stinger is a bad car. It's an amazing car for what it is.
I assure you Sam does Not Rig his races. No One who loves their car would do that. These are regular guys who don't even know Sam before agreeing to meet up and meet him and share in these videos.. NO one wants their car to lose . Its not hard to press the throttle all the way don and hold it for 14 secs.
I own a RT Trust me when I say you will enjoy driving and the sound of it, the look, and just sentimental value as a muscle car but don’t ever think that you beat anybody on the street because it’s heavy as fuck and really it’s slow. As a burnout it’s amazing but other than that it’s still cheap and good to own if you are not into spending!
If you drive both cars you would probably take the charger. I did and didn't even give the Stinger a second thought after one test drive. Just not a special car despite the power
I own a 2021 Stinger and it's been a blast. Compared to the german cars I saved 15 000$ but lost a bit of luxury/comfort. Compared to the american cars I get more luxury/comfort and I expect better reliability.
@@bikingD 4.9 is still slower than 4.7, and again this stinger is AWD, so it's 0-60 is much faster than 4.7. Looking online, people get anywhere between 4.0 and 4.4 consistently with awd stingers.
I'd like to see a 2013+ Ford Taurus SHO vs this Stinger. Very similar engine setup, twin turbo V6, AWD, etc. I had a 2014 SHO that I installed a Gearhead Tune on and other bolt-ons resulting in 400 Wheel HP & 450 Wheel Torque, it was a monster and embarrassed a lot of true 2-door sports cars.
@@SrtKoke hahaha 😂 has nothing to do with price but both cars have the same weight and the same performance and the stinger is much ......... faster here in Germany both cost about 50,000 €
@@Mund333M damn yall be getting ripped off over there then and btw I got a brand new rt for 31k. imagine if I were to put a twin turbo on it like the stinger (and I will soon) Let's see who's much faster then
@@SrtKoke yes the seller price is 50,000 € but to buy new cars is stupid bought my stinger for 36,000 € with 15,000km on it flap exhaust system and now chip inside at 450hp that makes 4.2sec 0-100kmh 0-200kmh 15sec plus the stinger is a big one Sedan with a lot more space than in the coupe and the trunk is huge so the price is ok here and we earn accordingly well
The only reason the Charger jumped out so much at 8:30 is because he was in manual mode in a lower gear. The car was immediately in the power band not having to downshift and then go.
Even in automatic it can do that. My 04 hemisport which is a truck well any ram 1500 is known with the 545rfe 2nd prime which is called passing gear the truck hauls ass just like how the charger move thats how my truck would move but when it goes to third it falls down hard 😂. Im not surprised at all that the charger could do that manual or auto you still get thrown back in your seat. Its just like you said its in the sweet spot the true power band. I just dont know if every car dodge has ever made is the same may wanna try that out and put in second gear lol
@@sergiozamora3181 It wouldn't have looked like that if the Charger was in normal auto mode and just stomped on the accelerator pedal. It would have been just like the Stinger and had to downshift (many gears) and then go. It was likely at 3-4k RPM and once the pedal was pressed it was off much quicker than the downshift + slightly turbo lag in the Stinger. If the Stinger was in the right gear it would have been basically even and quickly the Stinger would be well ahead like every other race.
Great race, thank you! But I can't understand the result. From a stop - yes, the AWD, reduced weight gives advantage to Kia. But from a roll, how Stinger started to get the Charger and reached it?
@@AK.__ yes, rear axle ratio i.e. gearing. This is majorly overlooked by folks that don’t know enough about how to maximize performance. The gearing provides better acceleration and keeps the car within the powerband. Too high a gear like that in an R/T auto is total crap from a performance perspective.
@@gotmylk That's actually truth. Before having an R/T (but i think it has improved 3.06 or 3.09 - do not remember) I even didn't think about this aspect. But how come that Kia engineers thought about this and Chrysler not? Or probably being AWD it by default has better gearing
@@AK.__ Chrysler thought about it and does it well in the Scat, Hellcat and Demon. The R/T was the car they produced as grocery getters for dad's that want to look cool but get good gas mileage. The 3.73 which is in the Stinger is also (if I'm not mistaken) the gear in the Mustang GT premium package. Automatics get high gears (lower the number) for fuel economy. C5 corvette in A4 came with a 2.95 and 3.15. Both slugs and hence why most performance minded A4 owners swap to a 3.42 from the MN6.
the same reason you see a lot of Tacoma’s and 4Runner’s. Have you seen the secondary market on Charger’s? They hold value incredibly well, you can see 2016 model go for nearly as much as MSRP, Stinger on the other hand depreciates likes crazy.
@@jaysteele5621 I beat the shit out of my 16 Scat Pack for 60k miles and had 0 issues with the car..my HC has been fine as well..what are you talking about? :(
This event was 100% fully and completely decided after the first race. This is one of the better examples of beating a dead horse that I've ever seen in my life.
Hmmm.... you had a choice and got a Korean car instead of Muscle Car? Nothing wrong in Kia Stinger though, but you will not drag race every day against stock R/T.
Well it's bigger brothers have plenty more power...these V8 RTs were decent 15 years ago, but now they can't keep up (had 350hp back in '06 vs only 370hp today). I bought an 06 RT Daytona back in the 08-09 range, felt crazy fast back then considering all I had to compare it to was a busted-up ford explorer and Pontiac Sunfire. The RTs now just feel super lazy compared to my old 392 SRT8 (now scat pak) or hellcat. If you're in the market for a big ole V8 that puts down good power the scat pack is fantastic, so awesome that they are now offering them in widebody, look so sexy.
@@CM20022 it's crazy because I have an 06 charger rt and with three adults in my car I was able to catch and pass a newer charger rt and this isn't the only time it's happened
I have a 2022 GT-Line Stinger and it is a delight to drive on a daily basis. I have the car one year but have never drag raced anyone. I can tell you that at 110 mph it is rock solid and begging for more. Running at 2000 rpm in 8th gear you are doing 82 mph and getting 30 mpg. That's hard to beat.
It’s a 106lbs difference between the two. I’ve had my car for almost 4 years. That stinger is most likely tuned too so prolly pushing 380-390whp depending on other What’s else is on it and which tune.
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Ok for the ones that don’t pay attention or are new here. Here’s the 392 race with charger and challenger: ruclips.net/video/dN0EJP2SRKM/видео.html
The car they should have compared to given that the Stinger in this form costs the same as a 392 charger.
I have raced my charger RT against my friends stinger and mine is stock and I beat him by 2 seconds and my front end raises way more than that so I think they are working with Kia... but I could be wrong
@@lucasfabbricino2713 i am glad you have beaten him in the middle of the road while the other driver was potentially sh***** his pants for cops…cmon people let’s get real now.
@@jakepeterson3379 Bree and a half
@@jakepeterson3379 , of course.
Owner of the daytona here, to anyone saying I wasn’t pushing the car or wasn’t redlining it, trust me i was, i was shifting at the 5.7’s redline. either way this was a super fun day and very interesting to see how well the stinger did, I expected nothing less going into it! Thank you again Sam for the invite out!
Way to be a good sport, thanks for allowing the use of your car so we could see this. Nice vehicle!
@@3KRacing Thank you! and some people just need to relax on here, its all for fun and you gotta give respect where its deserved, Kia made a beast of a car thats for sure! bought my car for the looks and sound, its quick enough for me :D
@@ByAlzne Exactly! A car can be an extension of oneself for some, or the sound and vibe of a vehicle is more important or for some how quick it goes a quarter mile is why ppl want/like a specific car. Ppl out here acting like they are the ones dropping thousands on the car of their personal choice, and the audacity to talk crap is beyond me 🤷🏽♂️. Again dope vehicle, sounds amazing and still plenty fast! Peace bro
Ya charger go crazy 🔥 can’t wait to get a RT myself
Shifting was your mistake. Let the 8 speed do the work.
This KIA is bruising A LOT of egos here..lol
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You mean a 4wd turbo charged vehicle gets off the line faster than a heavier rwd naturally aspirated v8... say it aint soo 😂😂
@justsomeguy697 awwww someone's frgaile ass male ego is tarnished?? Say that ain't so lol a hit dog will holler 🤣🤣🤣
Doesn't surprise me at all. The Stinger has AWD advantage, and it's also lighter than the Charger with very similar HP numbers. Both are still really great cars!
Agreed …. a race between singer rwd and charger would be interesting
the rwd one is faster dude
Also has two turbos
the stinger is also faster than the scat pack if you guys are interested
Let's add just 1 turbo to the hemi and see what happens
I can’t believe this.. As a former owner of the Charger Hemi and a Proud Current owner of the GT Stinger I cannot believe the Stinger walked the Charger like that just WOW
You mean a 4wd turbo charged vehicle gets off the line faster than a heavier rwd naturally aspirated v8... say it aint soo 😂😂
Man the Stinger GT is no joke
Fr but people still want to say "it's just a kia"
lol it IS a joke....it's just that the 5.7l has kinda become inefficient
@@fallback8314 so now I guess they need to have the 6.4l like it still would lose.
@@Artrail1000 already did it it got demolished😂
@@-that_boytrippin-7652 I see your a big dodge fan but it's funny how my mustang destroyed that 6.4l hemi too its not that fast. Everybody just done jumped on dodge band wagon all of sudden
The Charger sure sounds good losing though
Obviously the sound and loudness of the exhaust has nothing to do with how fast the car really is.
@@dontcare563 Obviously it's a figurative play on words
@@717UT he didn't get it lol
@@hacklaurent9412 Must be a literal kinda fella
Dodge Charger can install the Mopar Cold Air Intake and still be considered stock and within warranty. It will receive a little bit of extra horsepower gain.
Whenever I see stinger on this channel, my mind says it is going to be interesting 😎
Funnily enough just yesterday I was arguing with some Mopar lover on fb about how great the Stinger is and he was saying it was trash and his 2014 RT would " destroy " it in a drag lol. I'm boutta go share this on that post 😎
Wait until those twin turbos start needing maintenance, which are the key ingredient of the Stinger's power boost. I'd rather have a naturally aspirated V8 over a turbo or supercharged V6 or 4 cylinder. Cool car though.
@@alangonzales4708 ayee let them turbos blow. Time for a bigger turbo upgrade 😈
Stinger finally found a victim lol
@@alangonzales4708 may happen... but 10 year 100k mile warranty on the power train which would certainly include the turbos
@@alangonzales4708 Mopar guys ALWAYS gotta find something to defend Dodge lol.
That stinger is a freaking beast.
@Catholic Firefighter if you are a patriotic trump supporter you won't touch that commie shit car killed in action stingy
A beast is kinda a strong word lol but it is pretty fast for a heavy car I agree
@Catholic Firefighter What the hell?! How did you know I'm a Trump supporter?!
@Catholic Firefighter LOL you are still thinking that Korea is an ally of the US? Maybe back then but recently absolutely not. Former US Ambassador to Korea Mark Lippert was stabbed in Korea by some deranged anti-American pro-Commie Korean who there are many. Speaking of Ambassador, Korea also treated next US Ambassador Harry Harris who used to be a top ranking military personnel in the US Navy very poorly calling him all sorts of names. As you know, in America treating a military personnel or veteran, especially such a higher rank and influential one like that is absolutely unacceptable. Not to mention people destroying statues of McArthur, amongst others, their recent action cannot fool the US.
Not only that Hyundai is a conglomerate chaebol owned by Chung family who is originally from the North (just like the current Commie China installed puppet Moon) who is very cozy with Commie China and Kim regime.
@@miraphycs7377 that attitude there is why people often hide their trump support. Who'd want to be associated with that attitude, yikes.
Not surprised at this outcome at all. Excellent race. That Charger sounds so good.
Take a good look at the race That guy is not really pushing the charger
@@tyronehenderson4176 holy shit he isnt😂😂😂
It sound like me after a can of beans
@@justdrive5327 haha
Tyrone I can’t tell you rather he is or isn’t pushing the charger but I can tell you I kill chargers, challengers, and 300s on a daily.
Hey Sam, I raced a RT 5.7 Hemi this past weekend too and loaded those 2 races on my channel for all to see. They are cool cars and sound nice.. Too bad it's just not tuned to at least be a bit faster, so it's at least half sec. faster 1/4 mile would be a fair balance for that cars weight etc.. It did very well on a roll, as do most V8's.. Thanks to Jake for bringing it out for a fun time...... PS ... Note, My stinger from a dig was much closer to the 392 Scats, than this RT was to this stinger... :-)
My man is milking the stinger content, I love it
That’s not even bad. Stinger deserves more love!
@@lilmoris1 agreed
@@lilmoris1 I agree. I have the OG 18 GT and I’m usually too much of a wimp to race it for ticket and insurance purposes but now this has got me wanting to race anything on the road lol
From a stinger owner we aren’t complaining
Okay Stinger
Another great race. Also, Sam incorporating the driver change after much demand 🔥😂
More opponent interaction would be nice. Are they ALL camera shy? At least humanize them and have a real chat, not over the walkie talkie at the end, or are you still isolating?
Yes finally, hopefully they do a driver switch with all the races from here forth
Yeah, and even when the driver switch didn't change the result, people on here are still blaming the Charger owner's poor driving skills for the Charger's loss.
This one was easy for me to predict, you have a twin turbo/ AWD vs v8 RWD, thats like a baby GTR, easy win for the stinger, great video!!!
No i am Korean and Stinger is better than GTR
Joke
A baby gtr ? Because it’s twin turbo and awd? So awd Mercedes twin turbo models are also baby gtr’s ? That was a silly comment…
It's not the turbos the provide the primary advantage. I'm thinking it's more of the gearing, and powerband position of the shifts.
A v6 vs v8
I was looking for this comment. THANK YOU. somebody knows wtf they’re looking at, and hearing…this is awd vs 2wd…. Plus the awd has twin turbos…make it a fair drag race THEN gloat..
I own the 2022 GT2 in the same color. We love it!!!!!
I just sold my 2019 GT2 Ceramic Silver to VROOM for more than I bought it for a year and a half ago! I loved it but my wife didn’t want to ride in it so it sat in the garage! Enjoy your most amazing automobile!
I would love to see a race between a 2018-2021 2.0T Stinger vs the new for 2022 Stinger with the 2.5T. Just so we can see how much the acceleration has improved with the new 2.5T. Preferably both rwd cars.
That same 2022 Stinger vs the K5 GT or Sonata N-Line would be interesting, especially because the Stinger isn't equipped with the same 8spd DCT.
I dont think we get the rwd stinger in canada
@@thatreviewguy6109 and awd 2.0 and awd 2.5 would be a good race. But from what I gather it’s a hell of a difference. Like a full second to 60.
@@doubled8247 idk how much power the 2.0 has but the 2.5 with 290hp and 311tq is a very strong engine
@@thatreviewguy6109
Oh yeah, forgot about that.
I just purchased a brand new 2021 Stinger 2.0. I looked at the 2022 model but did not open the hood and did not research the cars before buying. The Salesman told me everything was the same between the 2 years. I got a heavy discount on the loaded 2021 and took it home. I then found out the 2022 comes with a 2.5. Needless to say I was pissed. I went to dealer and they did nothing about their idiot salesman not knowing about cars. So I just ordered an Injen CAI, Racechip GT black, and NGK race plugs. This should put me around 300hp from the stock 250. So I will see how much the car improves.
I like this channel a lot every time we see a good comparison between cars
Kia changing hearts and minds. That Singer is 🔥
It really is. ...shit lol
Love my Stinger - big bang for buck and super quick from factory…smiles all round every time I drive it!
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Love the sound of that Hemi but Stinger and Genesis G70 have a great twin turbo engine! Love your videos, Sam. And thank you for the driver switch. Was interested to see if there would be any difference with that.
As a Kia stinger gt2 owner I can tell you one problem is that even in sport the revs are kept relatively low. So if you're going to do a roll race you need to use the paddle shifters to keep the revs up right before you launch. I think that's why the hemi got a jump each time.
I have a GT and I’ve tuned it now pushing 515whp and I run 3.7 0-60. You won’t regret it
What I find really funny is that we're even comparing a 3.3 l V6 to a 6.2 or 6.4 l V8 with that alone Kia gains my respect even if the Dodge guys don't want a man up and keep it 💯
Wow 😯 I was pleasantly surprised! I guess I can believe the positive reviews on the Stinger. KIA got serious with this one! 👍🏽
You come up with the best races dude you hittin the jackpot
I hope someday this channel blows up. I just subscribed
Love it! And that’s why I’ve ordered my 2022 GT in Australia. Hoping to have it by October.
You will love it, Iv'e had my baby for two years, it's so much fun to drive. Can't wait to get my Borla and tips end of the month :)
I have always like the Chargers too, I really like the Hell cats but they are way too expensive to buy down under.
Just imagine the Stinger with a solid ECU tune 🔥🔥🔥
Oh I can imagine it, cause I lived one tuned and modded with everything you can think of, was running 500 hp and 520 torque, it smoked every charger rt or GT Mustang. Car was badass. Sold it cause I moved to Florida and was gonna end up in trouble of I didn't. So now I have another Stinger gt2 rwd with just a windbooster on accelerator pedal, and its badass enough. I also have a Genesis G70 rwd sport with a windbooster also, and its a little faster then the Stinger cause it's a bit lighter, but both cars are sweet runners. BTW, my wife drives the Stinger mostly, and I drive the G70.
Easy 400hp, I've seen it with a G70, simple tune, no mods.
@@TheRedRaven_ a lot more than 400. Mine is around 450 to the wheel without an ecu tune. With one, around 510 to the wheel. Very nice cars
@@Isaiah.M1 JB4? I have a 2022 facelift G70, Prestige AWD, thinking about doing it after I install some springs and exhaust.
@@TheRedRaven_ 100% worth it on the cheaper end. If you want a solid ecu/tcu tune. Lap 3 is the way to go. I’m 100% satisfied with the gains from the jb4, I have fbo and custom intercooler to pair with my intakes.
Wow!!! Stinger bust that a$$!!! Great race... I thought it would be way closer!
What ever happened to the stinger gt vs g70 race that we were shown pictures of last week or the week before?
Would expect that to be a tie whoever is the better driver would win. Same car after all
@@tomdoe1234 g70 is faster than Stinger because it weigh a few hundred pounds less depending on spec.
G70 will win 100%
Having forced induction makes a much flatter and higher power curve. Giving the advantage to the Stinger. Forced induction makes a much higher and level power curve compared to a na engine. Still fun to watch. I'd love to see a twin turbo 5.7 Challenger. Then, this race would be the exact opposite. Great video. This one goes to the stinger.
No duh. The displacement already almost twice as much 🙄 with two more cylinders
If the 5.7 was twin turbo it would also be substantially higher horsepower and torque. So whatever point you were trying to make isn't really relevant.
@@Wolf.diesel exactly his comment is pointless. besides im pretty sure this outcome probably has more to do with the transmission than anything
@@Wolf.diesel , explaining power curves is pointless to someone that doesn't race cars. Or the difference between horsepower and torque. It's too bad your mind isn't open to a nice conversation about 2 cars racing and what changes can impact the race. AWD makes a huge difference on the street. But. Racing on a prepped track with drag radials will drastically change the launch of the rwd cars. Even though in this case. The power curve of the stinger still would have won. If you don't have anything constructive to say about the video. This conversation is over.
@@billhoman694 I never said I wasn't open to a conversation, so you're going out on a limb and making a massive assumption. My point is that this, from the way it appears, is just a simple run what you brought race between two stock vehicles with street tires. So to say that if the Charger was twin turbo doesn't really make sense. Yes I understand that the way the power hits changes things greatly, but to ignore the horsepower and torque gains from adding twin turbos to the 5.7 seems short sighted. That's an entirely different scenario, and one in which you'd have to modify the Stinger to keep it at least relatively fair.
Sam...how about this Stinger against the new Acura TLX Type S...
Defo
defiantly want to see that one!
YESS!!
Thats no comparison, the stinger will destroy it....
@@ejohnt agreed I believe it's much lighter.
Yeah I do this race daily...It’s not even going to be close Stinger all Day twice on Sundays
Facts
😂😂😂
They do everything they can to avoid me on the roads lol
It was more fun when people didn’t know what the stinger was and everyone would race me.
Jake they still try with me and I blow their doors off every time!
Good vid man, love it.
I just wanted to say Sam, I'm a fan I use to focus on carwow but your content is just superb.
Welcome aboard
The 5.7 hemis are very powerful and accelerate insanely well this blows my mind. I really wanna test drive a kia stinger now
370 horsepower is very underpowered by todays standards. Basically every other V8 on the market currently makes at least 400HP.
5.0 in the Mustangs makes about 460 now, was 435
6.2 in the Camaro makes 455
5.7 Hemi in R/T chargers and challengers still make 370, not sure why so underpowered. I’m guessing because of Dodges marketing…
I think they want people buying Scat Packs with the 6.4s making 480 which is actually good for how heavy those cars are. Basically you have to spend more money if you actually want speed and power, the R/T’s are just for people who want the V8 sound I guess and to say they drive a Hemi.
@@shaunkennedy174 what do you mean "Every other V8"? You do realize that the stinger has a V6?
Starting to really like the Stingers... so roomy inside as well, tons of cargo capacity...😁
Wow awesome! Makes me love my Stinger even more.. Never realized how much larger the Charger is.. Both awesome car's, dig the Mad scientist hair style 😎👌
Damn that Daytona looking and sounding lovely 💛💛💛💛💛🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
Didn’t see that coming great job to the both of you
I didn’t expect the stinger to outran the charger that far. I think that’s the fastest Kia that has ever built
Aaaand in comes the ev6 gt
@@jasonmartin7453that thing is fast but can’t really compare ev and ice
@@UDamnFine true,ev takes all the gas out the gas pedal
the AWD definitely helps. Stock for stock, the charger struggles to stay planted with those tiny tires and torque. You can see his wheels spinning on the view of the 2nd run at the launch. I have a 2015 R/T and put 315 Nitto all seasons and they still spin just a little before they hook on the street.
Daz dat hemi tq boi
Does forced induction play a factor in this? (Twin turbos). I know the KIA has 20 more torque but that was a bigger gap than i excepted
Good channel, just discovered it. Some great comparisons with great cars.
I think the stinger has way more power then what it says it has on paper
@DJ bullshit my old 2006 is350 used to smoke those stingers on rolls and from the lights lol
@@lexman8678 You are racing at light in a 06 is350 that's kinda sad.
@@lexman8678 Thanks for the good laugh 😅🤣
It doesn't
@DJ no 365hp
Great race Sam, took the RT to Gapplebees as I expected.
Would have lost if the Rt was tuned. That would have made it fair since the Rt is heavier.
AWD almost always takes a lead. Plus that turbo makes quite a difference. Plus weigh difference. I'd love to have both.
Q50 Red Sport 400 VS Stinger GT would be sick! , I just found this channel and subbed I really like your content.
"im passing him im passing him" lol never heard such a quiet Hemi sounds like its going to the mall..
Hey..Miss H lol... is this a real pic of you...?
@@Dat550go aha whys that?
I own a Genesis G70 with V6 twin turbo and its amazing. Feels like beauty and the beast in one car.
Im a fan of the Shelby Mustang. But Sat in A new Stinger In 2019. Been In Love Ever Since. Very Nice And Fast Vehicle.
I like the facts Sam switched the drivers cz otherwise l wouldn't believe the stinger performance 👍🏼
That all wheel drive really helps out that stinger on the launches wow. But you just can't beat the shift sound and engine sound... Except with a hellcat haha
The kia will gap a hell cat for a 1/8mile but of course the hell cat will win on the big end ..and the hell cat will win in a roll race but off of a dead start the kia is gonna gap it
@@marcrubens2610 bullshit...hellcats run 9’s on the 1/4 all day long...the fastest stinger runs low 11’s...
@@djzulumask2138 apparently u can’t read he said 1/8 and the hellcat would win in the long run
love how all the comments are positive. if only the entire car community acted like this.
"BMW fanboy has entered the chat"
Yep, breath of fresh air
Wonder how the awd pursuit charger would do?
Great work! Wondering if you can do a Cadillac CT5 V the 3.0 twin turbo against the stinger
5.7 Hemis come with very modest ecu tunes. My 03 1500 ram 5.7 became a different animal once I installed a tune with a superchips hand held tuner via the OBD2 port. After the addition of a K&N intake kit and replacing the muffler with a magnaflow it was even better. It went from 8.9 to 8.2 on the 8th mile track.
The stinger goes CRAZY 🔥
Absolutely beautiful car, better looking by far than the Charger...
Another Stinger owner here, and I love my car since it's a little bit of a sleeper because of that Kia badge! 😈
I have a gt2 rwd, drifting so so much fun in the thing.
Sounds like the guy driving the charger is not pressing the gas all the way.
He wasn't looking at the finish line flybys that charger is at like 40% throttle. I've heard them full throttle they sound alot louder and different.
You guys are delusional lmao. Why would the owner of the Charger want his car to lose? Just accept the fact that the RT is slow af and move on.
@@orangejuice-xi3gt Of course it's slower then a car with more horsepower 🤦. We are simply saying the Charger wasn't floored. It's very easy to rig races on RUclips to hype up a car🤷. Not saying the Stinger is a bad car. It's an amazing car for what it is.
I assure you Sam does Not Rig his races. No One who loves their car would do that. These are regular guys who don't even know Sam before agreeing to meet up and meet him and share in these videos.. NO one wants their car to lose . Its not hard to press the throttle all the way don and hold it for 14 secs.
These are literally my top two cars that I wanna get for my next car… I’m thinking stinger bc of the technology
Stinger would be more of a daily than RT
I own a RT
Trust me when I say you will enjoy driving and the sound of it, the look, and just sentimental value as a muscle car but don’t ever think that you beat anybody on the street because it’s heavy as fuck and really it’s slow.
As a burnout it’s amazing but other than that it’s still cheap and good to own if you are not into spending!
And Gas
I'd say Kia cuz of quality/dependability... if you're into that
Mine tooo and they are down playing them both smh🤦🏾
Man the stinger looks so clean
Damn it Sam! your making me a believer in the Accord 2.0T and Stinger GT 😲
Well I officially want a Kia
If you drive both cars you would probably take the charger. I did and didn't even give the Stinger a second thought after one test drive. Just not a special car despite the power
I own a 2021 Stinger and it's been a blast. Compared to the german cars I saved 15 000$ but lost a bit of luxury/comfort. Compared to the american cars I get more luxury/comfort and I expect better reliability.
Get one !! I have one I love
I wanna see Accord 2.0T vs 5.7 Hemi. My money is on the Accord.
The hemi would win, unless the accord has Ktuner stage 2. then that opens up the accords turbo, just traded in my 2.0 T EXl for Kia stinger gt2 AWD
😂😂😂
From my personal experience the charger will take the 0-60 by a hair but from a roll it’s even
Charger has a 0.1 faster 0-60 time according to the internet, but it is the internet so..
SSDracer did this race vs the 5.7 challenger and got walked everytime on the strip
What did they do tell the guy in the charger to lay off the gas pedal? Then they switch? with the same command?
I think I might found my new favorite channel!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
I feel like the people who buy chargers are the same people who say "It's just a kia"
Lmao yup. I honestly hate everything about Chargers. Such an ugly, heavy, 'MURICA car.
@@bikingD A quick google search says this charger gets a 0-60 time of 5.1-5.3 seconds.
The RWD Stinger (This one is AWD) is rated for a 4.7
RTs are slow heavy turd,the scat pack is really worth it
@@bikingD 4.9 is still slower than 4.7, and again this stinger is AWD, so it's 0-60 is much faster than 4.7. Looking online, people get anywhere between 4.0 and 4.4 consistently with awd stingers.
Idk how.. dodge and kia are on the same level lol none are luxury brands. Actually kia has better interior than dodge lol that's a fact
That stinger looks awesome
I love my Stinger !!
I'd like to see a 2013+ Ford Taurus SHO vs this Stinger. Very similar engine setup, twin turbo V6, AWD, etc. I had a 2014 SHO that I installed a Gearhead Tune on and other bolt-ons resulting in 400 Wheel HP & 450 Wheel Torque, it was a monster and embarrassed a lot of true 2-door sports cars.
I expected this outcome but why the hell does the rt sound like he's not fully putting his foot down?
the stinger walks so far to infinity and much further haha 🤣
The Infiniti was the non red sport.
Yeah it should when it costs much more. It's in the same price range of a scatpack so compare it to that charger
@@SrtKoke hahaha 😂 has nothing to do with price but both cars have the same weight and the same performance and the stinger is much ......... faster
here in Germany both cost about 50,000 €
@@Mund333M damn yall be getting ripped off over there then and btw I got a brand new rt for 31k. imagine if I were to put a twin turbo on it like the stinger (and I will soon) Let's see who's much faster then
@@SrtKoke yes the seller price is 50,000 € but to buy new cars is stupid bought my stinger for 36,000 € with 15,000km on it flap exhaust system and now chip inside at 450hp that makes 4.2sec 0-100kmh 0-200kmh 15sec plus the stinger is a big one Sedan with a lot more space than in the coupe and the trunk is huge so the price is ok here and we earn accordingly well
The only reason the Charger jumped out so much at 8:30 is because he was in manual mode in a lower gear. The car was immediately in the power band not having to downshift and then go.
Even in automatic it can do that. My 04 hemisport which is a truck well any ram 1500 is known with the 545rfe 2nd prime which is called passing gear the truck hauls ass just like how the charger move thats how my truck would move but when it goes to third it falls down hard 😂. Im not surprised at all that the charger could do that manual or auto you still get thrown back in your seat. Its just like you said its in the sweet spot the true power band. I just dont know if every car dodge has ever made is the same may wanna try that out and put in second gear lol
@@sergiozamora3181 It wouldn't have looked like that if the Charger was in normal auto mode and just stomped on the accelerator pedal. It would have been just like the Stinger and had to downshift (many gears) and then go. It was likely at 3-4k RPM and once the pedal was pressed it was off much quicker than the downshift + slightly turbo lag in the Stinger. If the Stinger was in the right gear it would have been basically even and quickly the Stinger would be well ahead like every other race.
stinger is such an undervalued gem
Someone tell me pls, 5.7 L for what exactly? Just to burn your fuel faster?
Thank you for listening to the community with the driver switch!
I prefer Kia. Kia, Hyundai, and Genesis designs are on fire.
Design of Kia, Hyundai, Genesis? They do not have design. Same as generic Toyota, Mazda and other similar cars....
Man that stinger ain't no joke . But I still love the sound of the hemi
This guy, has improved on making his Videos.. now the quality is better than ever before
Great race, thank you! But I can't understand the result. From a stop - yes, the AWD, reduced weight gives advantage to Kia. But from a roll, how Stinger started to get the Charger and reached it?
Gearing
@@gotmylk You mean, the rear axle ratio, where basically engine gives same output, but the wheels make more turns? Or something else?
@@AK.__ yes, rear axle ratio i.e. gearing. This is majorly overlooked by folks that don’t know enough about how to maximize performance. The gearing provides better acceleration and keeps the car within the powerband. Too high a gear like that in an R/T auto is total crap from a performance perspective.
@@gotmylk That's actually truth. Before having an R/T (but i think it has improved 3.06 or 3.09 - do not remember) I even didn't think about this aspect. But how come that Kia engineers thought about this and Chrysler not? Or probably being AWD it by default has better gearing
@@AK.__ Chrysler thought about it and does it well in the Scat, Hellcat and Demon. The R/T was the car they produced as grocery getters for dad's that want to look cool but get good gas mileage. The 3.73 which is in the Stinger is also (if I'm not mistaken) the gear in the Mustang GT premium package. Automatics get high gears (lower the number) for fuel economy. C5 corvette in A4 came with a 2.95 and 3.15. Both slugs and hence why most performance minded A4 owners swap to a 3.42 from the MN6.
How many Dodge Chargers or Challengers do you see in a single day? A ton right
the same reason you see a lot of Tacoma’s and 4Runner’s. Have you seen the secondary market on Charger’s? They hold value incredibly well, you can see 2016 model go for nearly as much as MSRP, Stinger on the other hand depreciates likes crazy.
Its because everyone wants one ( except me) just like the jeep. Put some miles on it and it will fall apart. Facts !
@@LeJunny that’s good for us stinger buyers LMAO. Plus it’ll outlive that charger anyways
@@jaysteele5621 I beat the shit out of my 16 Scat Pack for 60k miles and had 0 issues with the car..my HC has been fine as well..what are you talking about? :(
@@AlienCreatureThing I take tic over fire anyday.
This event was 100% fully and completely decided after the first race.
This is one of the better examples of beating a dead horse that I've ever seen in my life.
You should race the 2016-2018 bmw 340i less hp/tq but heard they keep up with both these cars, should be interesting
The Stinger ain't no joke is it? Nice. Very impressive, but I'm still a Mopar man. Great video!!!
Curious if a rwd stinger would get the same results too
I think the rwd ones are a bit faster
GREAT PAGE FOR DRAG RACES... KEEP IT UP!
This is one of my new favorite channels, great content man!!! 💪
I love the kia stinger👍
Watching this makes me not regret taking the stinger over the r/t all I need now is to change the stock exhaust.
Mbrp makes a nice exhaust for the stinger
That’s what I got. Mbrp exhaust makes it sound mean. The aem intakes help a lot too
Hmmm.... you had a choice and got a Korean car instead of Muscle Car? Nothing wrong in Kia Stinger though, but you will not drag race every day against stock R/T.
Do you race everyday ? The charger has more presence than the stingrr
Fair dinkum😲 I didnt expect that thats a huge gap unreal.. Top video Mate well done👍🇦🇺👍
I don't regret getting my Stinger! It's a hoot! It will be a classic one day.
Not even close. Thought the V8 charger should have more horse power.
Nope that's only an rt n that stinger costsuch more than that rt
Well it's bigger brothers have plenty more power...these V8 RTs were decent 15 years ago, but now they can't keep up (had 350hp back in '06 vs only 370hp today). I bought an 06 RT Daytona back in the 08-09 range, felt crazy fast back then considering all I had to compare it to was a busted-up ford explorer and Pontiac Sunfire. The RTs now just feel super lazy compared to my old 392 SRT8 (now scat pak) or hellcat. If you're in the market for a big ole V8 that puts down good power the scat pack is fantastic, so awesome that they are now offering them in widebody, look so sexy.
@@CM20022 it's crazy because I have an 06 charger rt and with three adults in my car I was able to catch and pass a newer charger rt and this isn't the only time it's happened
The diference charger to havy,stinger twin turbo and more ligth,so its big diference period
The R/T is mostly meant for fun, not necessarily made for winning races 😂☺
Ty for the video and race!! Proud Stinger owner 🤙 yup it’s “just a Kia.” But it’s a fkn badass Kia. Have a good day 😉
I like the fact you switched drivers
I have a 2022 GT-Line Stinger and it is a delight to drive on a daily basis. I have the car one year but have never drag raced anyone. I can tell you that at 110 mph it is rock solid and begging for more. Running at 2000 rpm in 8th gear you are doing 82 mph and getting 30 mpg. That's hard to beat.
I'm not surprised that the stinger whooped him in every race, the car is a beast
it is a beast but the 5.7 engine is a turd, especially in a heavy car.
@@raymonds7492 and the kia is all wheel drive
It’s a 106lbs difference between the two. I’ve had my car for almost 4 years. That stinger is most likely tuned too so prolly pushing 380-390whp depending on other What’s else is on it and which tune.
Wow great races ,but it looks like that Charger needs to get some mods, this is embarrassing
he needs a scat, not mods, imho.
U love the charger so much but whaaaaaaa wasss thatt😲😲the sound tho🔥🔥
Some tell me the stringer can be tuned to make more horsepower?