Kaiser directs employees to stay in Oakland HQ for lunch over crime concerns
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- KTVU has learned that Kaiser Permanente is telling its workers at its downtown Oakland headquarters to stay in the building during lunch. The directive was given over concerns about crime. But many disagree with these orders including businesses who say they depend on workers patronizing their restaurants.
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How embarrassing and devastating for the city by its totally failed leadership and crime supporting D.A.
it was also the voters of california when they passed prop 47
OK, but that leadership has been installed and supported by the people of Oakland. Those people would just replace leadership with the same. People seem to have a fantasy that you just have to be nice to criminals and everything will be better. At some point when enough people in Oakland have experienced enough crimes against them they will start picking and supporting leaders with a plan to attack criminals. Seems unlikely though. People in Oakland have a very long history of supporting criminals.
Look at all the people they interviewed. They'll just vote someone else in to office with the same far left policies. They don't see it is a safety problem, they think Kaiser employees should just go out on the streets and risk getting mugged. That way everyone can be cool man.🌲🍄🍇🍉
@@MrWaterbugdesign Good point, it's not enough to kick out current politicians just to elect more of the same.
Welcome to 1st world country! SF is even worse: filthy, smells horrible, and scary!
Kaiser is trying to protect its business. Don't blame Kaiser. Blame the crime and the state and community's leadership for doing nothing about it
If Kaiser was really trying to help their employees why allow a homeless encampment right across the street from the work place, why build more businesses in a place that have had a crime problem for decades. So.... yeah I really believe they care, not
Exactly!!!
Blame the Joe Biden supporters who have been committing crimes.
@@carolyoung8945You act like Kaiser has the authority to remove homeless encampments lmao… they don’t.
What leadership?
If you thought In N Out burger closing was a big deal wait until Kaiser pulls out of Oakland. I can guarantee there are meetings today at Kaiser developing an exit strategy from Oakland.
And most other companies out of NY and other DEM owned states
Oakland about to become a desert 🏜️
@@trump2024_live_with_it Sssshh! They don't wanna hear that it's 100% their fault! Even though it is. Vote Republican or every state will be like this, guaranteed. Trump 2024!
@@st7728 So true - I live near Oakland - Stores closed due to the DEMS policies - IN-OUT BURGERS, Denny's, Starbucks, Black Bear Diner, Subway, then there is Kaiser, Corox, Blue Shield, and others that have to hire protection for their employees. The Employees are told to bring their own lunches, don't go out in town. - Re-Elect a DEM or Uni-Party RINO and they will only Double Down - TRUMP 2024 to clean up this mess and MAGA A
Kaiser makes way too much money to close
Oakland , the only city in history to force an " In and Out ' franchise to close because of Crime . Another Oakland First !😞
No wonder the A's want to leave.
Gov Newsome doing such a great job along with the mayor. Turning all of California into a craphole, one city at a time.
Since 2020, dems have done as much damage as seemingly possible.
Newsom is campaigning for Biden in S.Carolina right now. He has more 'important things to do'.
The people of California voted to live in a $hithole. They got what they wanted. And I love seeing it.
Amen! 🙏
64% of Oaklands budget goes to "Public Safety". The Oakland Police are responsible. The governor does not police the streets of Oakland or provide the police's hyperinflated budget.
how about putting criminal in jail? citizens living in prisons while criminals roam free. Oakland is a joke.
The problem is the prisons are already overcrowded about 115% total
@@CrystalCleara They should build more prisons.
@@CrystalCleara no, they're closing prisons in California, ridiculous administration
No wonder why their pro sports teams left the city.
@@Qrayonit’s an excuse not to put people in prison. It’s a liberal excuses not to incarcerate people. It’s an order liberal progressive in this country. They put you in prison only for murders, and not too long either.
Where is the government? Why do they continue to tax people but not defend them?
We are betrayed
It's a recommendation, employees can leave if they want to.
It's overkill, until you're the one getting assaulted.
@EliWallach ...or killed, eh Tuco?
Defund Pamela Price
Besides the criminals themselves, Price is the biggest reason why people are afraid to walk the streets of Oakland as they used to. She's supposed to be the county prosecutor, but she refuses to prosecute!
@@Qrayon I was jumped in Oakland back in 2012. My friend and I walked down the wrong street. 100% our fault, I wont contest that. But afterwards, the OPD showed up, 5 cars deep, picked us up, and drove us around looking for the guys! They *wanted* to stop these thugs, and they were *allowed* to do so! It's a shame they have been shackled from doing their job.
and then ship her to afghanistan
@@heypistolero 2012 Oakland has as much in common with 2024 Oakland as it does with 1901 Oakland.
@@SpookyFow I gotta ask, do you live here? Cause Oakland has never been "safe" by any means, but it wasn't always a death trap.
Don’t blame Kaiser, blame city leadership
Kaiser supports the Dems in office.
Who blames Kaiser?
Don't blame others, blame yourself.
Blame hipsters.
Kaiser has always discouraged us wandering out of the building. Once we were in, we stayed in, lunches were catered. I remember leaving late on evening and had security escort me to the garage. This is nothing new, except it's 100 tmes worse. So sad.
Kaiser is telling it like it is. California needs a complete overhaul. The state has gone nuts.
It's a big state. Oakland and San Francisco have some issues with law enforcement and DA's not doing their jobs, but it's not a state wide thing. At all.
I'd rather walk alone in San Francisco at night than Indianapolis, but I'd do (and have done) either with situational awareness, and wouldn't paint the great state of Indiana with such a broad brush.
@@brentlanyon4654 Well said
HOW ABOUT PULL THE BUSINESS OUT OF THE CITY !!!!!!
IT'S NOT SAFE
@@brentlanyon4654 your talking out your ass.
@@brentlanyon4654Umm, it’s everywhere in California. The brush is pretty broad. California is a mess. Period
Oakland solved its retail crime by problem as all the retailers have all gone out of business.
Next up, solving the corporate business problem so they all leave. Then the rest of the residents will leave.
Sounds like a meme. Can’t have retail theft if there’s no more retail stores 😂
@@bl-nt7vg Now they can report that crime is down!
@@oliverheaviside2539That's funny!! Yep, you know they're doing that.
Progressive problem solving technique. It's hard to deny but it does solve the problem.
Well Kaiser just wanting to protect their employees. I don’t think it’s wrong at all.
I remember when government told us to stay in buildings and not go out for a whole year and nobody said it was "atrocious"
I remember a lot of people complaining about it but maybe you don't because it doesn't fit your agenda?
@@junme1389 And those people were accused of killing grannies, also it wasn't a recommendation, it was mandated by the government.
@@urgandma but they did kill grannies.
@@junme1389 Nope.
@@urgandma incorrect as usual
So sad...Oakland is a lost cause.
Corruption
When was it not?
@@MrWaterbugdesign early to mid 2010, when Jerry was still in office. i was able to ride my bike anywhere downtown and uptown without looking over my shoulder.
@@kitmarshall4084 I spent some time in Oakland for every week for a few months in 2004. Walked around Lake Merritt. Had dinner. Took a class.
Never had a problem. My car was never touched.
The whole state of Kalifornia is. 👍
“The government you elect is the government you deserve." - Thomas Jefferson
He also said “The quote you misattribute could be from anybody.”
"He who smelt it dealt it."
No wait, that was someone else.
Blaming govt is the dumbest thing ever. 😂
"I've smoked more parmesan cheese than anyone I know" -hunter br!ben
@@blkcrappyescorts1374 Yeah, I mean, it's not like Governments are responsible for policing or anything like that...
It was a dump in the 1980s and is ten times worse today. The only way it will change is if parents start caring about raising there children to be decent human beings.
No way its going to happen if the parents themselves aren't decent human beings themselves. Parents do not represent the good guy as they used to in these situations. The game has changed.
The small businesses need to put pressure on the Oakland leadership to improve downtown safety, not criticizing Kaiser for protecting their employees.
Kaiser needs to move OUT of Oakland.
no i am tryna to work there lol
Agreed!
They're working on it I assure you.
They need to keep their employees safe. People getting victimized is not good for business.
So your employer has the authority to infringe on your rights because they claim it's for your safety?
You are what's wrong with America, and you're the reason America will fall to tyranny. Do you even realize that you just advocated for slavery?
They need the prosecute people and keep them in jail In-N-Out Burgers moving out of Oakland in the Fillmore District Walgreens closed just a couple days in Oakland they're dragging at ATM either from a liquor store or a 7-Eleven down the street that's funny as hell where's the police😂 democrats for you
Those people forced vaccines on everyone deserve everything they get
The employees should be able to defend themselves and the criminals shouldn't be given authority over the streets.
@@GoonyMclinux bingo
I have to shake my head at those opinions criticizing Kaiser's action because its "not good for the city." Kaiser's primary concern is and should be the safety of its employees and patients. Those who are worried about its effects "on the city" should be talking to the politicians who have allowed the current sorry condition of Oakland to develop.
Thank your mayor and DA for this
Those people haven’t been a victim yet. Easy for them to say what they said.
Government policy is only criminals allowed to carry guns.
Worse thing that ever happened is closing work camps. Sending people to jail or prison has become a cake walk for them. Send them out in the hot sun, rain, freezing cold 10 hours a day working hard and it isn't so easy any more. Something they'll remember.
YES! You ought to work off the value that you have stolen before you even qualified for parole. Guess what, your room and board comes out of the pay too.
Unfortunately, most are not going to jail or prison. They are just released the same day to choose new victims tomorrow.😥
Businesses need to move out of unsafe cities. When enough leave, the police & courts will get off their butts & clear the streets of the unwanted.
Judges should be held responsible for the crimes committed by those they let free.
Have them do all the unskilled labor positions for California High Speed Rail. Would save a lot of money
2:14 "not clear if these directives from *Kaiser* will be *permanent* or not"
I know that pun was intended
I heard that and laughed😁
Booooooooooooo
*Kaiser Permanente* is looking out for their bottom line. They don’t want to Be hit by careless lawsuits as a result of on-the-clock injuries or death by leaving the workplace facilities.
So damn embarrassing, but the DA Price is probably OK with it.
She’s cackling up a storm over the good news.
She's on the side of thigs
@@missf4681 No, she's on the side of thugs.
Yes that is a damn shame!
Those are Auntie Pam's boys roamin the streets spreading love and cheer!
Uneffingbelievable!
Its very obvious that the small businesses are only concerned about their bottom line, not your safety. I agree with Kaiser. This is sad that they should have to take these measures to keep their employees safe, when city leaders and law enforcement done give a damn, because if they did, these steps would not have to be taken.
Work at home in Wyoming, it’s a lot safer there. They actually have police that can do their job and not hampered by politics.
Good for Kaiser making that decision. The small businesses that want to complain about them or complain to the wrong people they need to complain to their local government and the police for not keeping the streets safe. I live in the greater Seattle area and I tell people all the time not to come visit Seattle because it's turned into such a dump with rampant crime and drug use out in the open and the cops don't do anything about either.
Yeah, I saw that documentary Seattle is dying and it looks like SF is on the same trajectory.
Everyone in Oakland complains to the city government about crime, but the city does nothing but offer boilerplate PR statements. That's why people are trying to recall the mayor and DA.
Small businesses can convert to take out. Get rid of wait staff and hire delivery staff. More efficient. Those businesses would also be safer because they could barricade better against being robbed. Safer for their customers too. But I guess businesses don't like change or caring about their customer's safety.
Don't blame the police
The Blue city council’s and liberal judges have the police under their thumbs you get what you vote for
The thing is, in areas of the world where civilization has gained a foothold, there is a solution to this issue. Rumor has it that it involves actually enforcing laws.
you're a writer!
Not happening anytime soon in CA..
People should be outraged that crime is so bad that Kaiser is telling its employees it’s not safe to be outside. Demand your local leaders to do better!
The nerve of these people!! Easy to act brave & tough until shit gets real & you're being robbed with a gun pointed at your head right outside in front of your job in broad daylight. Then you realize maybe its not worth your life walking across the street for that turkey sandwich.
Somehow making the streets safer places is never a first priority. Criminals are never to be blamed. It's always coming down to blaming the corporates. It's only getting worse.
It's a liability, if you are on lunch, even an unpaid lunch, they could be liable for your injuries etc...blame the politicians not the employers...
How about training your employees in gun safety and making them carry. Once a month at the range. These ppl do have to come and go to work.
@@Bob-bm1fkgood idea but I bet Kaiser probably has signs outside their building prohibiting CCWs and probably have an employee code of conduct prohibiting the same
OPEN carry LONG guns During lunch.
" ...California courts have ruled that an hourly employee who is injured while taking an uncompensated lunch break off of workplace premises is not working within the scope of employment and thus not eligible for workers' compensation benefits."
I blame the perps commiting the crimes and their family members/neighbors that support them.
19 years ago my grandson had to go to Kaiser in Oakland for surgery. The security guard told my daughter she absolutely had to get him when she went outside to smoke. nineteen years ago it has only got worse
The mayor of Oakland can't understand why she is facing a recall.
Oh. Mayor Sheng Thao made a statement that everything is being addressed in Oakland so we are A OKI!
She’ll pee on your head and tell you it’s raining too!
Yea smh all these statements she makes yet nothing gets done, another robbery or homicide every day
word salad
yeah the mayor is looking into it, that'll scare the criminals away.... 😂
"PS - I was being sarcastic" - Homer Simpson
The only way to legislate safety of the public is to put the public first. Obviously, Newsom and Bonta would disagree with that.
Reminds you of the need for castles in the Middle Ages out of fear of roaming marauders.
Can't go to In-and-out either.
They quit.
Those who disagree with Kaiser have a right to do so, as they don't want anyone telling them what to do on their lunch hour. But as soon as one of those Kaiser employees gets robbed or assaulted, they will turn around and say, "Why didn't Kaiser warn us about the crime and/or do anything about this?" It's important to be vigilant wherever you go these days. I'm also hearing Kaiser is closing some of it's downtown offices (They own a lot of buildings, which are empty as many have chosen to work from home now)...and moving some of those in Oakland to other parts of the Bay Area. Should Kaiser pull out of Oakland....there will be little left.
Kaiser Dems, stay in CA please.
This is nothing new. I worked for a company that had an office in that area 15 years ago and they told us to be very careful when out of the building. Many parts of Oakland have high crime rates.
That's the sad reality of trusting democrats to solve any problem related to crime and this has been increasing since the DIMS got political control over 30 years ago.
If only they had leaders and lawmakers that actually care.
If only the people would vote for leaders and lawmakers that actually care. It is hard to feel sorry for the people when they vote in the same scum into office over and over again.
Kaiser is not atrocious. What’s atrocious is the criminals….
"What’s atrocious is the criminals…." -- Actually, what is really atrocious are the citizens who keep voting in the same people that allow criminals to get away with what they are doing.
You voted for it. Stop crying
I know. Even CA Republicans voted for Prop 47. Newt Gingrich told 'em to.
Our votes were tossed out😮
why is the crooked media not demanding answers from newsom
THEY ARE CLEARLY JUST ANOTHER BRANCH OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY....THEIR SPIN MACHINE... AND NEWSOME WOULD PROBABLY SPIN IT LIKE HE DID EVERYTHING DURING THE DESANTIS DEBATE ... SPIN AND LIES
The on street interview people are saying "What's wrong with getting mugged every once in a while; you'll get used to it; buy our stuff".
?!
It looks like this insurance company will eventually leave and move its headquarters to another community or city with less crime or move to another state if the situation doesn't get any better..
A valued employer whose safety the city and county will treat just as shabbily as everyone else’s.
I left Oakland 15 years ago because it was a hell hole. Get rid of the Mayor and everyone at the top. Crime there is RIDICULOUS! And criminals have no fear of consequences. Terrible for the folks who live there.
Take your Dem politics with you??? Very likely..
When I work in downtown Chicago, I always bring my lunch, go straight to work and straight home.
If i do need to make a stop, i plan it and come prepared.
Kaiser Permanente needs to offer a cafeteria and/or other food options in the building if they're going to restrict their employees from leaving during their lunchtime. Most people want to get away from their desk during lunch; many large companies offer a cafeteria and other food choices in a nice place to relax. Kaiser certainly has the resources to do this.
*Oakland* missed the deadline application with a sum of Over 200 Million [Last Year] that would
Fund OPD law enforcement Tackling retail theft and other serious crimes..THAT should be investigated AND *Pamela Price* is Notably contributing to this..👎🏼
All the other cities that wanted the funding applied by the deadline and got it except Oakland. That mayor don’t care.
Oakland leadership could not be worse...Oakland needs SERIOUS people in charge that actually want to improve things. The current progressive cabal is plainly dangerous...
they have serious people in charge...seriously stupid
Lived in the Bay Area since 1983, and the only good mayor I remember Oakland having was Jerry Brown. Everyone else was either incompetent or corrupt, and often both.
it was the voters of prop 47 in 2014
It’s definitely corruption at this point. Criminals in charge at the highest offices behind closed doors enabling, confiding and emboldening criminals at the street level.
@@fixpacifica Gotta disagree. Moonbeam wasn't the worst, but he made way for his protégé, Newsome
My cousin recently worked as a lawyer in downtown Oakland and they got robbed like 10 times,. I used to walk around that area as recently as like 2010 and had little to no problems.
It's a huge building. Set up a small cafeteria and sell lunches at discounted prices. It's a win win both for the company and employees.
I wonder if medical schools and residency programs ever start telling their graduates to stay away from Kaiser Oakland
Why would they?
@@pvt.2426 Crime. No school wants to see its medical students/residents robbed on the way to work.
@@pvt.2426 For the same reason that Kaiser is telling its employees not to leave the building for lunch.
@pvt.2426 - it’s dangerous enough that employees are warned against going out to lunch, imagine them going home late at night
It's so ghetto there you get Robbed Twice going to your car .. oh and the car is already stolen
As a Director of Internal Audit for a financial institution, I've observed the level of safety myself at our branch locations in Los Angeles. We have young female employees walking alone to and from their cars when the branches opens and close. They might make good targets for bad actors and that could result in the company facing lawsuits for not providing a "safe work environment". And believe it or not, I care about the safety of our branch employees. This is for legal purposes. If they fail to address the dangers right outside of their facility, when there is actual proof that it's "not safe", you "cover your @$$". Smart move Kaiser. Risk Mitigation is what this is.
That makes sense. It's better to make it look like they're doing something to protect the staff than wait for something to happen and then do it to avoid lawsuits. Smart. It's all optics.
@@superduperboyx Maybe this is all for show, but the shame is in the fact they feel motivated to address it as a concern. Can't help but wonder if someone in that building has been assigned to look at real estate brochures from Lincoln NE, or some such place...
@@superduperboyx I suggest it makes good optics but it’s also a good idea, so it’s not all optics.
"We have young female employees..." -- And unfortunately, most of the young females have played a major role in causing the present situation by the way they vote.
I had an interview in Oakland once. Was nervous about working there but I was happy to learn I was actually working out of Richmond.
Nobody talks about locking up criminals !!!!
Dude, it’s not the hospital that’s discouraging anyone. It’s the city’s current state and how the mayor is running it.
The whole Bay Area is becoming like the movie Omega Man.
You have to understand that crime is absolutely dangerous for all that live or work in that city. Safety first. ❤
the people "upset" at Kaiser are the people who hate "corporations" and if Kaiser said or did nothing, these same people would be "outraged" that Kaiser didnt warn or help protect their employees
Well if I was a criminal I would criticize Kaiser too. That's bad for business.
Sounds like an emergency that needs a state of emergency.
Recall Thao and Price.
Now you know it’s sad when you can’t have off-campus lunch
Gavin diligently attends to the affairs of your state, ensuring that every aspect is well-managed and taken care of. Unfortunately, it appears that Oakland is facing a multitude of challenges and is in a precarious position.
And with all the Kaiser employees now staying in at lunch time, crime has dropped 99%.
You stay classy Oakland. "Just go out and be safe!..." uhhhhhh riiiighhhht. How's that soft on crime, short staffing of law enforcement working for you?
Oakland missed the crime bill $3 million for the police 👮
Yeah, I suspect our mayor is on her way out the door.
Good for Kaiser for protecting their employees.
Lets salute to the Mayor of Oakland, Oakland Police Department and the vegetables who voted the leaders of Oakland in.
Vegetables is too nice a term.
If your workplace tells you its not safe for you to leave the building during your lunch break, then it's not safe for you to work there at all. Period. Oakland is a dump. It's been in a slow decline for the last 20 years. Every day I wake up, I thank God I'm not there anymore.
Bingo. If Kaiser really believes it is that bad then it should move.
Business Organizations in Oakland: "It's not safe."
Oakland Hardcore Citizens: "It's very safe, the news is lying. Stop being so scared of crime. That's what makes Oakland great!"
“Don’t give in to the muggers! But definitely give them your money when they demand it, definitely.”
Provide your staff with lunch. Not like you are hurting for money.
Well you said they HAD TO COME BACK TO THE OFFICE, rather than work from home. If they are worried, they should cater lunch everyday or work with the city to make things better in this world.
Haha hospital patient care surgeries done from home😂
LOL I used to joke with my cousin, who at the time worked at Chik-Fil-A, about why she couldn't do "remote chicken". Considering how many infections people get at hospitals, maybe remote surgery would be better! heheh Just kidding - I believe in hospitals still!@@mariakovacs9867
Doctors, nurses, janitors, surgeons, etc cannot work from home.
Please stop wasting time getting feelings hurt and telling people what they already know - not everyone can work from home, we get it. But half of even hospitals do NOT have to be there in person and read the second part which is more important. How about some of those lawmakers and judges and senators and people you probably vote for anyway even if they suck that supposedly cannot work from home do their jobs and keep the crime away from buildings such as these. @@MsBrendalina
This is fucking insane
In N Out NEVER shut down a location, but it will for Oakland. Crime is daily since Cali decided to discourage self defense.
The mayor should hire more policeman and a district attorney who's gonna press charges.
Without consequences you'll have more crime.
She won't. She is part of the problem. The solution is for people to wise up and vote her out of office.
Basically Arkham City without the Batman…
With a LOT more blk people lol
California is so well managed, Newsom should be our next President.
Fax
Considering you can't spell it, I think you're pretty fucking far from FACTS @@pahanin2480
Just like Trump's America before... You goof
Yes he should, so we can have someone else in as Governor! F Gavin..
@@stickynorthpolar opposite political parties, but whatever you say Ray Charles
What a dilemma for everyone! Sad… sign of the times😢
A residents don't think this is odd.
Wow
It's not clear if these directives from Kaiser will be Permanente or not.
So nice to tell employees to go to Claremont hotel for lunch.
BS a buger is $18 at the Claremont. You need a brain 🧠
@@ssammy6681 apparently some people can afford $18 burgers, and I would assume doctors and nurses are in that category.
@@ssammy6681 That is my point. Telling employees to go to somewhere they can't afford is almost like not recommending. Don't forget it is $9 per hour parking for the Burger.
@@glowingstar71the Kaiser buildings downtown are more admin than the hospital staff further up. But yea they aren’t making minimum wage…a burger fries and drink is going to run you close to $18 almost anywhere else 😂
@TAL142 With 5 entrees to choose from, was it a talking dog that told you this woof
Imagine not even being able to step outside for your lunch hour
The mayor made that statement from the safety of her fortress.
Thank you California government for the safety of your citizens 🙏🙏 , they deserve it paying that much in taxes .
Some of those directives reminded me of the briefs given to my ship's crews before pulling into liberty ports in countries such as Colombia and Costa Rico. We had nice visits there, too!
Just be careful out there
If they're not getting paid they can't do this!
The idea is to let employees known there is a real threat that they will be robbed or assaulted, if not both. Pay does not enter into it.
@@JoeOvercoat They can't hold them their against their will legally and I know all about Oakland it's been bad since the 1990s.
The folks that are against Kaiser’s decision are privileged that they haven’t been experienced the terror yet. I used to live in Oakland and I hate that had to watch my back every second.
Yep, I've been held at a gunpoint and hearing the citizens saying those things was ridiculous. Nobody has to make themselves a victim on a lunch break. They don't understand because they've never been in a horrible situation.
then there is no time to watch the front
Yep living in a dayum bubble of delusion they think they’re in Mayberry.
🤡🤡🤡
What the hell are the cops doing over there, at least Kaiser cares.
THE COPS HAND ARE TIED DUE TO THE LIBERAL D.A.'S WHO DON'T PROSECUTE THE CRIMINALS....NOT TO MENTION LIBERALS WHO VOTED IN PROP 47 WHERE STEALING UP $950 IS NOW JUST A MISDEMEANOR ! !
Huh...if only there was a way to put people in charge for people who would fix this problem...if only...
Oakland has been nortious for crime for decades, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.