@Charisma Girl You can win, but only if you're willing to do what's right for you and fuck what anyone else thinks. Admittedly, that's sometimes easier said than done... probably moreso if you're someone in the public eye.
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Yes people... You've ruined comedy. STOP being offended on my behalf. YOU are NOT my kind.
How many black people does it tske to change a light bulb? I would give you the answer but a bunch of college students would not allow the black group of people to figure it out and assume "I'm a White supremacist" for thinking the chance that it is more than 1.
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast yet they never think about what it means about their own thoughts that it is not possible for them to imagine that you might say one. Or that you might say that it takes at least seven, one to design it, one to mine the resources, one to process the materials, one to make it, one to sell it, one to transport it between every step, and one to actually put it in. Nope, they cannot even imagine either answer.
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@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast You do realise that my point is to give you the right to tell that joke? I am Portuguese. Whatever joke you have?... I've got the ban hammer trigger. xD
I cant think of ONE black person who had a problem with Tropic Thunder. RDJ did an amazing job at playing a black man he wasn't over the top and doing too much and the actual black face was really GOOD make up.
@@CONTRACTOR_SG3 There are black SJW for sure that were offended but that's not the point. To me every topic and joke is acceptable if the butt of the joke is not making fun of the other from a superiority point. The problem is that now content doesn't matter, only superficial appearance. Black-face is bad because it's black-face, saying black is bad because it's the word black. Context be damned. A truly racist person can be exactly as racist but if they say "African-American" they get away with it. A non-racist person that says black is deemed as racist. It's all superficial virtue-signaling.
@@92brunod No one thinks that saying black is racist. And black-face is bad because they were white people not allowing black people a role in the entertainment industry. That’s not what this is in Tropic Thunder. They make reference to it multiple times and it’s because the character himself is so obsessed with roles, he doesn’t know who he is, and will play anyone. Don’t get it twisted it’s the tiniest minority of people that actually have an issue with this, and giant corporations are scared of any bad press.
@@roems6396 "No one thinks that saying black is racist" Then why is the term "African American" being pushed as the only acceptable, non-racist way to refer to black people? "And black-face is bad because they were white people not allowing black people a role in the entertainment industry" I know! That's the problem. Just because something was once used for awful reasons doesn't mean the thing in itself is bad. What is actually bad is not allowing black people to act and use black characters to make fun of them, not blackface. In my country for example "blackface" was done in the exact opposite way. White people would paint themselves black to celebrate the culture and music associated with black people with them. That's why it's beyond stupid to ostracize a thing that in itself is not a problem instead of the actual problem. It's criticizing the surface instead of the deep issue. I'm not twisting anything. I never said it wasn't a minority so I have no idea what the second half of your comment is about. Don't make shit up I never said.
Imagine what would happen if we had a support culture, where people simply support whatever they like with their own money, and don't demand that other people cannot have things they want...
Libertarians: "Let the people and the free market decide!" The market: *deplatforms and cancels stuff because the people don't like it* Libertarians: "wait no"
@@VitaminCBable That's right, I liked the case cover; I reiterate my first question though: Where did you see the relevance? Enlighten me, s'il vous plait.
@@luxuryvagrant6496 F.E.E. is constantly correlating freedom of economy with freedom in general. Rachet and Clank holds to an economic system, and maintains it. The correlation is that, in a humorous society, people tend to attribute actual price to things instead of trying to mandate absolute bans. F.E.E. should really do a video on the game series itself.
"Too close, Commander! Ten more seconds and we would've been swimming in molten sulphur. Our ship isn't equipped to land in exploding volcanoes. They tend to fry our sensors and melt our hull." - Also, Jeff Moreau
@@AlMcpherson79 "Boy am I glad to be off of Noveria, I don't know what's worse the cold or the coorperation. One will freeze your balls off, the other sell them out from under you."
Yup. It would have been inappropriate to actually use a blackfaced actor for the role in the fictional movie they were making, but as it's a fictional character it's alright - sorta like how cannibalism is bad, but Mads Mikkelson isn't actually a cannibal just because he plays one in 'Hannibal.'
The whole point of his character was to mock him because he said he was capable of acting anything. Also, fun fact. Tropic Thunder was not only filmed in Kauai, but Robert Downey Junior went to a local burger joint call Bubba Burgers every day for lunch. Think of it as Hawaiis In-N-Out. By the way, I've had their food. 10/10, make that a primary stop if you visit.
Considering Kindergarten Cop is now on the chopping block simply because it has cop in the name, shows we need comedy now more then ever, else we risk turning into one big joke where we're the punchline.
What if we just take all the sane people, get together and buy all the land in a couple states. Make sure to get some decent farmland and ports so we can sit back and watch the cities burn while enjoying life.
@@zuludude2 Or, how about we evacuate a few states, probably on the west coast for simplicity's sake, of everyone who wants to leave to avoid the crazies. Then, we forcefully deport all of these fucking lunatics into those evacuated states, wall off the borders and enforce them with military units (as one should regardless IMO), and just let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they leave the rest of us be. If we do it this way, most of us dont even have to move and we can still be without the morons! Besides.... I _really_ dont want to surrender Texas, even if I would like the overall outcome. And I kind of like the idea of watching California burning itself down the rest of the way... If we're really lucky, maybe mother nature will let them fall into the Pacific never to be seen or, mercifully, heard from again.
In the '60s and '70s, they used satirical comedy. Now the news, itself, is self-satire. No room for comedians. That niche has been taken over by demented news anchors.
@nymersic well some people want to get offended by things so they see racism/sexism/etc everywhere they are just miserable people. While lot of comedy is shock comedy which his great hearing a joke that has a serious shock result. Realistically because it's a joke it's comedy technically none of its offensive because it's not of malicious nature
People "feel" offended about things that really have nothing to do with them. These types of people want to pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they are good people because of how they feel. Your offended feelings does not make you a good person. It makes you intolerant to ideas other than your own.
The biggest thing people need to do is stop differentiating people. We're people. Stop making a certain characteristic define and group people. YT's automated censorship is one of the worst things created in the past few years. It destroys conversations by taking away people's voices.
Downey's character is asked when will he drop character. He replies "I don't drop character until I do the DVD commentary." In the actual DVD commentary with Ben Stiller and Jack Black, Downey is still in character! It's hilarious! One of my favorite commentary tracks.
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen. I’ve been fighting for Tropic Thunder for years. I had friends who refused to watch it because of the use of the r-word, and for RDJ’s “blackface” and I’ve begged them to see the satire and the commentary on Hollywood and realize that it’s not the problem, it’s revealing the problem and exposing it. Your breakdown really captures the nuance of the issues and the actual problems vs the recognition of those same problems. We have to be able to talk about this stuff without fear of being silenced, and comedy is one of the best mediums to break down those walls and generate a dialogue for change, excellent job,
"I’ve begged them to see the satire and the commentary on Hollywood and realize that it’s not the problem, it’s revealing the problem and exposing it." They don't care! They don't care for content or context. Someone said a word that's not allowed? RACIST! It's much easier to act superior by just not saying a BAD WORD and to criticize the surface. As long as a truly racist person avoids doing black-face and says "African-American" they have no issue with them. A person criticizing racism says "black" and they're the devil. Because they don't care about the issue, it's just pathetic virtue signalling and a way to appear morally superior. It's sickening.
whats amazing is that when the movie came out, people had zero issue with RDJ playing the role, all the hate was all about the simple jack plot line, and now how many years later, RDJs part is now being targeted.
"If someone calls you stupid you rightly should be offended, but that doesn't mean you can start a campaign to prevent people from using the word 'stupid' - that would be stupid." - Arran Lamas
Beautiful. This is why I hate the term "normalize." Sure be weird, be you! You shouldn't give two fucks about the haters. But don't try to "normalize" your idiosyncrasies onto the culture. That's just annoying
I called someone's actions stupid and another (albeit younger) person said it was inappropriate to call someone stupid and gave me a lecture. She was very angry.... and apparently deaf. I did apologize and rereclarify, but I couldn't unpress the button. Easily triggered.
Noble principle. And famous last words before being suckerpunched from behind, cut down and trampled underfoot by the angry mob crying for the blood of all oppressors.
@@phallicusoblongus white privilege doesn't exist. I dare anyone to argue with me, I'm Scottish and know full well what prejudice feels like... my ancestors were also sold as slaves hundreds of years before America was even "discovered".
@@SA80TAGE Just like Emperors of Egypt when civilizations were first forming, they also used white people as slaves. It might not be as recent but it's still slavery either way.
They are far worse than cockroaches, cockroaches are scavengers, not parasites, they are more like a spreading cancerous malariatic infestation of polyps with mouths and claws which crawl through systems feasting on the minds of others. And I did invent a word.
@@iamthatiam1944 you are the embodiment of it. Also, Not racism, cockroaches are not a race, it’s called speciesism. The difference is species supremacy the other is race supremacy, most, non scientific (particularly people which don’t understand how evolution actually works) that is, people are often speciesist. Basically, seeing a human or animal as superior, we all evolved from the same originator however, so it really doesn’t make sense that one would be better than another.
NPCs can't do that since they don't have an inner dialog. Adults are able to have little arguments in their head, it helps rationalize their point of view and understand people who disagree with them. When you don't have that ability, what you 'know' must be a universal truth and therefore everyone who disagrees is sub human.
Educated is not the correct term. Academia consists of almost entirely close-minded, bigoted, psychopathic control freaks. People need to possess Intellectual Morality which means to not hold onto a belief once the facts have been made available to you. The left accuses the right of actions they themselves are performing and when you prove who the guilty are, the only excuse the come up with is "Well, everybody does it".
Nobody in the theatre knew it was blackface. What purpose did it serve? Couldn't you simply get another black actor? It's not like they excluded people of color from this movie.
_"A white actor, a white actor, playing a white Australian actor, playing a black man, in blackface. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!"_ - Cuba Gooding Jr. announcing Robert Downey Jr.'s Academy Award nomination. 😁
@Kurt Barryman Yes. The Thesis needs its Antithesis, canceling each other out, paving the way for the Synthesis. You're playing right into their hands. This is what they want you to do. To throw the US into turmoil, weaken its defences, so they can walk right over you. The cold war has never ended.
@Kurt Barryman To what extent are you aware? A plan that was devised half a century ago (or maybe further back) is comming to fruition. The fall of the iron curtain was part of it. The ideological subversion of your country and other western nations is complete. What happens in the US is no coincidence. The goal is great civil unrest. I guess "civil/race war" you'd call it. What we see now is just the prelude and nothing in comparison to what is to come. Trump plays a great role in this. The Russians wanted him into office. They are at it again in 2020. He is the trigger to the masses of indoctrinated SJWs, NeoMarxists, usefull idiots. The animosities between China and Russia are staged. Their inner circles work in unison. Now the Russians created the first corona-virus vaccine, planning to distribute it widely (in their country) starting october. Even though the medical science community said 2021 at the earliest and when lucky. Heroes and Saviors of the world. And Trump, the bad guy, the incompetent. The US is getting more and more isolated. Chinas fentanyl production and export is another devious attack to undermine the state and demoralize the people. What do you think will happen when Trump will win the election? The indoctrinated righteous idiots are already rioting in the streets, looting, attacking police stations, attacking police. Riled up by agitators. BLM, AntiFa, financed by Soros, an Hungarian, a Soviet. The west has lost the (cold) war. I can see one counter-strategy that could work, not sure to what extent. Too many variables and unknowns. The Americans had to create their own "inner circle", an invisible state, completely cut off from an outer world. The Soviets on the other hand would anticipate this move. Mh. Btw. i'm not white. You may see me as beneath you and as an enemy, but i don't see you as a threat to my way of life.
@@palasta I'm from Germany and when the Berlin Wall fell everything was good for a while. Now we are seeing the rise of censorship, data collection and deplatforming. Just like they did in the GDR. An acquaintence of my mom who was born in the GDR once said: "When the wall fell, you thought you were integrating the communists. We just infiltrated you."
@@HeresorLegacy Yes. Funny, when Merkel was asked, if she ever was with the Stasi. Supposedly she replied, that she declined their offer to work for them and told the Stasi she isn't good at keeping secrets. Or Lothar De Maiziere, who denies his Stasi past to this day.
I saw a video about the original Twitter poster that started this whole thing, and she admitted to not watching the movie, and after watching it and realizing the context recanted, but by then it was too late.
Problem being, McCarthyism wasn't even McCarthyism as most people believe it to be... McCarthy was trying to put Communists in the military and government. The Hollywood carp was later and he was out of office by then.
It's actually backwards McCarthyism. Instead of witch-hunts against socialists and communists. It's socialists and communists witch-hunting moderates and conservatives.
No all speech is not hate speech to someone. Hate Speech apologists use this as a way to silence critics. In the process doing the same thing you acuse your critics of doing.
I love how cancel culture is essentially eating itself alive. Nowadays you see people who supported canceling others are now getting called on for cancelation themselves. As someone who despises cancel culture mobs who get offended by the smallest thing, I think it's funny to watch the cancellers getting canceled.
"it's just criticism" they cry, as they call the employer. "it's just criticism" they cry, as they call the school. "it's just criticism" they cry, as they contact the domain registrar. "it's just criticism" they cry, as they post the home address. "it's just criticism" they insist, as they contact the bank. "it's just criticism" they insist, as they contact the payment processor. "it's just criticism" they insist, as they gather outside the house. "it's just criticism" they insist, as they gather the kindling. "it's just criticism" they shout, as they swarm the car. "it's just criticism" they shout, as one shoots at the passengers. "it's just criticism" they shout, as they shatter the windows. "it's just criticism" they shout, as they drag them out. "it's just criticism" they shout, as they kill you in the street.
@Kurt Barryman Can I be white with you, please? Is it a skin-colour thing or can I choose which side of the fence I want to "struggle" (Woops, revealing lapsus) from?
@Kurt Barryman I disagree, there are many blacks, jews and other minorities who hate the sjw as much as you do, heck, I already follow a lot of then. What you're proposing is just to pay tribalism with more tribalism, it will not work, you will just end up forcing everyone who is not according to your definition of white to join the Marxist side. Your group will also inevitable end up saying horrible or anti-minority things, and the sjw will love it! They will pick your posts and show to the whole world. And with it, will convince the centrists and moderate whites to join their side. Think about it, the active users on the internet are not a reliable representation of the real world, the majority of people only receive their news by the big media, and most of said media support the far left. Also, you must understand that the majority of those who hate you are white. Check any far left group, and you will always see more whites than any other race. Man... Recently an black man who is pro-Trump, Bernell Trammell, was murdered by antifa.
@Kurt Barryman Right, so once I weasle my way in as a half-cast, do you reckon that I'd be able to lobby for the right to vote to be conditioned by certain criteria (No criminal record, a certain tenure in work or/and finance for example). I ( And the parties that I support) would argue that the right to vote and reproduce are privileges that people are to prove themselves worthy of, responsibilities that should not be given (or taken) lightly. Then use those barriers to entry into the ruling class to out-manoeuvre "Whites" until the ruling class is basically comprised of people like me... Seduce popular masses with government handouts, stiffle the middle class with taxes and have the wealthy collude with the ruling class to not have the popular masses set upon them. MMmm, I'm loving it; badapapapaaa.
@Kurt Barryman History is long so we could pull out different lessons until the cows come home. Let's start with something that we have experienced in our real, concrete lifetime. Take a rather basic biology lesson, remember that biodiversity produces stronger organisms (Allergies, immunity and general resilience, etc). Do I need to continue explaining or have you retained enough from secondary-school biology lessons? Yeah, I'll add this point: monocrops have a higher tendency to suffer from disease and are less adaptable to changing conditions (Adaptability is a key to evolution). Save your sperm from irrelevance, Kurt; embrace genetic blending. Your children andyour children's children and their children will really be better off for it.
It’s a little late for that. Say the “wrong” thing and you’re fired. Post the “wrong” thing and you’re banned from social media. Dude - we’re already living in tyranny. It’s gonna get worse, too. Say the wrong thing a few years from now and you’ll be imprisoned, or executed....look at history. It repeats itself.
Rights are like muscles. if you don't use them, they go away. Kudos to all 1st and 2nd amendment auditors! (Except those who try to stir up shit for no reason)
"Speech has consequences" may be a truthful statement, but I am not a fan of people throwing that expression around thinking it entitles them to bully others into silence. The fact that someone reacts to what you say is the consequence itself, but that doesn't serve as a blanket excuse for just any way they choose they react to it.
@@lancethefilmguy9392 When someone misinterprets what I say, I am the one who says "No, I said x,y,z precisely; words have meanings you know" Then I hope not to push into hitting me. Some people will resort to violence when they do not have the word to dominate a situation.
Lesson: never apologize to the mob or the woke crowd. Tell them to pound sand and that you'll do it again. Then do it again and rub it in their faces. If you are going to do something or say something then stand behind it.
The mob takes an apology as an admittance of wrong doing not as the penance if you admit to wrong doing then is the time for punishment which either ends when they get tired of you and move on or until your life is done (what ever that may mean)
Plus, if you apologise it will never be enough, if you do then they will demand something else, then it's not enough again and they will force you to live by their rules. What kind of life is that, where you have to bid by the will of some lunatics on the internet?
"What do you mean YOU people?" "What do YOU mean you people?" The joke was that he was in blackface that was the set up and the punchline of his whole character they even talk in the movie itself about how it was "controversial"
"Are you saying that because I'm black?" "Are you saying that because I'm white?" *Smiles" "I thought so!" *Conversation continues normally.* ^This was part of an actual conversation I had. People need to chill about race.
@@hariman7727 there was a running joke when I was in high school that I was black (I'm a ginger I'm as far from black as I can be) because someone stuck the label of a cake on me that said "chocolate cake with white frosting" there was a guy who was in highschool when I was in elementary, and we all called him black jessie. We're a small area mostly white and race has never been an issue here
A classic example of this type of humor is in almost every episode of The Office. At one point, Michael says: Kelly, you are Hindu, you believe in the Buddha. The Audience might then laugh. They aren’t laughing because they are against Hindus. They are laughing at Michael’s ignorance and acknowledging that they shouldn’t say something like that.
@@tequt Wouldn’t recommend that you do- it’s much funnier in plays or impressions if you’re portraying a character, not yourself. Unless you’re among some close friends who understand your parodying. So yeah- if you can do good impressions, of someone like Michael Scott, or Batman, or Donald Trump who are known for saying insensitive things nonchalantly without even knowing it- then maybe you can get it to work. I personally do Batman sometimes. For example, if a friend asks me what I thinks about an issue such as COVID I can say “I think it’s creating injustice. Everyone mask up like me! And we can end crime” in a Batman voice. Obviously it varies how insensitive or ridiculous you can go.
Of course. You would be the victim of assault. But you would not be a "victim" if someone decided that they would prefer not to be your friend anymore because you say mean things to them all the time.
I don't think we have to insist that all speech is morally acceptable. People utter immoral things all the time. But not every immoral thing should be met with eradication. The _actual_ principle of an eye for an eye is a much better guide: that the severity of the punishment should match the severity of the act. Saying something awful should be met with roughly equal consequences.
offense is only ever taken never given if you find it offensive than that is your problem hell in a predominantly black country one of it's most beloved comedians (Leon Schuster) is famous for putting on black face and they love him for it
Even here in Kenya if you try and critisize a politician for mistakes done it immidietly turns tribal if you are from a majority tribe you can't even dare speak against the corruption from a leader who comes from a minority tribe
I am not a fan of cancel culture when it comes to canceling things that we don't like. That's just so inept of people to do. There's an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when the gang (the cast) remakes Lethal Weapon and most of them wear blackface. I laughed my ass off because they actually were aware enough in writing and performances to point out how racist blackface is. That show is frickin hilarious. People need to be offended and also disagree peacefully so we can grow as critical thinkers. Cancel culture regresses this notion. And I pretty sure there's someone who will want to cancel my opinion. It's a social commentary that they talk about in this video. Thanks for making this video. Lovely critical analysis of cancel culture.
@Kurt Barryman Collectivism is the exact bullshit that led to cancel culture in the first place. Marxism feeds the fire of cancel culture by emphasizing a greater good, as if society is a herd of sheep and the cancelers are its shepherds. Moreover, a blind disregard for the rights and wellbeing of the individual is what made Hitler's Germany so bad. Hitler copped to it himself in one of his speeches. So no, the answer is NOT to engage in the same race-based collectivist bullshit that already lost its war over 70 years ago.
18:18 "If you don't properly understand the meaning of an action or the expression of an idea, how in the world do you expect to accurately judge its moral value?" Cancel culture already solved that little problem. Everything, and I mean *everything* , is interpreted solely within the context of each individual's perspective. If *I* find it offensive, it *is* offensive, and therefore must be cancelled. This is the logical ramification of moral relativism - that is, that there are no moral absolutes. Except, you know, the absolutes that cancel culture agrees on, like men in general are bad - and especially that Orange Man. ... How cancel culture people dress themselves in the morning, I have no idea.
@ゴロゴロ please, the CCP *funds* the cancel mob, and I'm not surprised if prominent cancel sheep *worship* the CCP, because its these people who deflect criticism of the CCP as "racist, ignorant" or whatever buzzword these mongrels pull out of their arses
Racism and ignorance are a real thing, and relativeness does not always lead to entiled manchildren that think their world is the only one But some of the stuff said here has been proven by unbiased data
Leon Schuster from South Africa is a well known comedian who paints sometimes paints his face black and goes out in public to do pranks on people and black and white people love him. People will always look for something to complain about because they hate their lives
I was with you up until around 23:00. While I agree that a world where everyone shouts "bigoted slurs" at each other would be a bad world to live in it is the fact people are being artificially restricted in shouting bigotted slurs against each other that is, at least in part, the problem. Expressing opinions that offend others should be allowed. While I considered various circumstances that should be excluded, the classic been "inciting" an act against another, I found that "problematic" because "inciting" is an insidious notion. It is a bit like the tired argument against "pornography" as being "corrupting and depraving" namely, "it is hard to define but I know it when I see it". The case that spells this out the most is Scotland v Count Dankula regarding the "Nazi Pug". Count Dankula was found guilty of a hate crime, one that "potentially" incited hatred against the Jewish people according to the Scottish judicial system for a joke video. Google is your friend, Google Count Dankula nazi pug, watch videos. In short, the law should not prevent us from insulting each other nor expressing opinions that offend. We should only be held accountable when our speech is demonstrably linked to specific harmful events that we demonstrably (beyond a reasonable doubt) intended to happen. Prohibition of speech does not work, it just contains and reinforces the notions of those unable to express themselves. Let them do it and face counter-arguments and insults, but not cancel culture and incitements to physically assault them, such as the "bash a Nazi" campaign - real meaning beat up anyone you think is a Nazi, which is usually being someone who does not agree with you entirely or happens to have a certain haircut. The premise is that bad ideas should be expressed and the only consequence should be a social one in terms of people being able to call you out, argue with you or just insult you; frankly, internet (social) justice can be far harsher than legal justice, just ask this Texas Judge:abcnews.go.com/US/judge-beat-daughter-remorseful/story?id=14873563.
I also didn't like that he stated that if you get a reaction you shouldn't consider yourself a victim. Then shows an individual being slapped for words. No if someone uses violence against you for words then yes you are the victim. As long as it is just words in reaction then that's just their right. The issue is that they step it up to actual violence or ruining someone's life over words. That is the other terrible part of this cancel culture. And I don't think this youtuber gets that.
As a Native...i see plenty of black people get offended by these things, but for some reason, they dont seem to get offended until after the white people do. that being said? white people are ignorant racists. Black people are hateful racists. the difference? a white person doesnt realize they are being racist 90% of the time (at least when it comes to cultural things) A Black person sits there and screams a Native American man, for 'stealing our land' because for some reason, there are a LOT of black people who think Native Americans dont exist, and are white people faking it, and that black people were the original inhabitants of north america...and i wish this was an exaggeration...
@@bobchipman7737 How about i go tell the Black Panthers? they were the ones threatening to murder me, my wife, and my kids when we tried to go see the Black Panther Marvel Movie.
@@dreamwolf7302 well u still alive arent u...ive been threatened many times by white ppl for small things but ill never hate them coz im a man and fear doesnt controll me. Get that victim mindset outer my sight I love black ppl ,i love white ppl i love all ppl. And my bad experience with a few will never make me such a coward .🤣
@@dreamwolf7302 when in actuality when white people settled in America they didn't have enough labor force to build a nation so they sailed to Africa and bought people to be slaves from other African people because Africa's entire history involves conquest and enslaving the losers that being said the English brought back their purchased slaves but that should tell you that people don't know history anymore
I am an indian and a few years ago me and my dad watched the 1968 movie 'the Party' in which peter sellers is in brown face we thought it was funny and from time to time saying that's how we'd act. it made us proud tbh
From another brown person, The Party is an all time classic, watched it as kids with our parents. "Birdy num num" was one of my favorite childhood catchphrases.
That was my all-time favorite movie as a kid from watching it with my grandparents and I still love it today (even if I can't talk about it without fear of being ostracized from my peers)!
LoneWolfGamer No, I’m an agnostic atheist that thinks marriage is a scam made up by the government, but I don’t get offended if interracial couples/gay couples and religious/atheist people don’t share the viewpoints as mine because free speech is supposed to mean that people can have different viewpoints that might be controversial to some and having a logical debate with others that might not share those same controversial viewpoints.
At what point did "I dont agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it" turn into. "I dont agree with you therefore you are an evil "phobe" or an "ist" and I am going to hurt you for not thinking the way I do."
That's my policy. If you are being offensive to be offensive, then yeah, stop. But if you are being offensive as a joke then hell yeah I'll laugh with you.
Exactly the problem with movies today. It's funny BECAUSE it's offensive, not it's offensive BECAUSE it's funny. That's how comedies should be made, and why Tropic Thunder works.
@@osmanyousif7849 everyone should have the freedom to take the piss out of each other without being labelled an ism/phobe. there's something to laughed at about everyone and anything
My two favorite episodes of Our of Frame were the Avatar episode and the Accidental Courtesy episode. But this... this really takes the cake. I long for a day when we can be excellent to each other. When we can all learn to laugh at Jojo Rabbit and Tropic Thunder, I think we'll be better off. When we all learn to be a bit more like Daryl Davis, I know we will create lasting friendships. Sometimes words can be painful. But the only way to truly change a heart for the better is through being a friend. Thank you guys again for making this. Very proud to be part of the Associate Producer club. You guys rock.
I keep my eyes focused on eternity. No human law (or mob rule) can take away my love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, or temperance. Like what Jesus said to Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world." People can try to cancel me all day long, but if God wants me to do something, He will give me what I need when I need it to accomplish His purpose in my life. Who can stand against that?
I didn't know there were actual living humans who look at a film literally and not in context. It's like scouring a good book with a moral story for bad words and banning it on those grounds. Thinking about it, I get nasty replies so often by people who just looked at words and were offended without having read my post. They exist. They scare me and should not ever be in a position to make decisions [based on what?]. I am serious.
I work in software, yesterday I've seem people get offended by words, those words were written in the dictionary in the leaked source code of Windows XP. They were literally asking to burn it down. I was, like, firstly, that's copyrighted material you shouldn't get access, and second, your problem is with Microsoft, go say that in public, that you read Windows XP source code and got offended by the some "racist" words in the FUCKING dictionary. And thirdly, if you don't like it, why the fuck did you download it, what's the point ? its there even a point ? you just want to feel offended at this point. Person was literally CTRL-F for "racist" words and found the dictionary, got offended by the FUCKING dictionary. That was wild to me. I can't even...
@@monad_tcp They have literally nothing else to fill their empty lives. Offense and grievance make them feel like they matter, and have purpose. They will pursue it until the end of their days, because it's easier to do that than it is to actually go out and find something more important to do-- and it's not as if there's a shortage of actually good causes in the world, either.
It's this stupid idea where zoomers or whatever they're called are discovering these old shows/movies now and are getting offended and DEMAND that shows made 10 years ago or older adhere to modern day sensitivities. It's utter nonsense. Like, All in the Family aired in the 70's, we were laughing at that shit in the 90's. We all understood it was a different time. We never once demanded Ethel quit being a housewife and start getting a job or whatever. We accepted the show as it was. GEEZ.
Very interesting topic, I think the problem is that common sense is not as common as we think, many of those movies might be clear to some that its pointing out the stupidity of the matter. But for a lot of people they might misunderstand the whole point, and think that is how it should be. I really appreciate people that can have open and respectful conversations about any topic, I really like your videos and I am always looking forward to the next one. cheers
this was an incredible piece of social commentary. I am so grateful you put this video together, it concisely and respectfully put into words how I've been feeling for a while now.
I think, one, the character is not funny because of the face itself. And two, it’s also not mocking black culture or people. It’s funny and appropriate because he does the character justice and it’s funny because of the character, not the face itself. It’s not “blackface” for those two reasons.
You said it was really hard to write this episode, but man did you write it well ! I think you achieved to hold up a mirror to people in a very respectful and thought out way
I recall Cancel Culture in 1997 without realizing it. It was my first year in high school when certain books were banned for being too "controversial." Switch that word out for most _"-isms"_ today and this PC problem has become progressively worse, causing people to actually *regress* in their ideas & thoughts.
We had book banning, now being taught about in school, but all of this social media cancel culture is not recognized as such. Wow, imagine this being taught about in schools in 40 years, unless of course the cancel culture gets its way
Honestly, I'd say the PC problem is worse in the past, it's just that most of us have been raised with that and don't notice the bad things when they come about. Just look at how older people look at you with weird haircuts, non-standard clothing, swearing, trying to censor all types of books and shows and games. Getting banned off social media isn't a censorship thing. The platform shouldn't be forced to broadcast any ideas.
@@Capybarrrraaaa The problem comes when social media sites ban with bias without making the reasoning clear. When people look online, they believe they are seeing the full picture and that others simply can't understand. This creates the ability for big corporations to adjust the public's opinion in whatever ways the companies see fit. We already see this in news such as Fox and CNN broadcasting biased stories, but I'd argue that seeing a group of people online all saying the same thing does even more to sway public opinions, and when that group is manipulated and promoted in secret by the social media site, there is a big problem. Ideas change over the years, but banning ideas on social media gives big companies the ability to manipulate the general public because the general public assumes what they see on their feed from other people is the entire story
@@irok1 "social media sites ban with bias without making the reasoning clear." Why is that a problem? The are banning, so the reason is that they idea is against their company. "and when that group is manipulated and promoted in secret by the social media site" I can completely agree with that being an issue, but that's just a consequence of free-speech. It sounds like you'd advocate for something like a tax-funded social platform where people cannot be banned subjectively. The solution here isn't to force Twitter to broadcast speech they find hateful/destructuve. That would massively violate free-speech. It's to create a platform where you can speak under your own terms.
@@Capybarrrraaaa I completely agree. The first point isn't a problem until people start taking the censored version as the objective truth for everything. Exposure to new ideas is important I don't believe that a government platform would ever happen, much less be better than massive companies running everything. And yes, the best solution is exactly what you said in creating a new, better platform
@@mikepez Objective context does not change, that is to say the facts are not changed. What changes is what parts are used to fit a narrative. The problem is that the media does not use the entirety of the context of a situation to report on it. Instead, they pick and choose what gets reported so that they can frame it however they like. They claim to be journalists, but they are in fact just high profile bloggers with obvious biases.
I, as a Black American simply love the movie "Tropic Thunder"! I thought that Robert's performance as a Black army sergeant was brilliant--Robert deserves all of the accolades for such a fine performance. About a hundred years before "Tropic Thunder" there was another war movie in which a white actor (Walter Long) portrayed a black sergeant. That movie from 1915 was called "Birth of a Nation" (There's a remake-- in name only-- that came out about ten years ago) which is the movie that everyone refers to when they want to make a deliberately racist movie. It was the first film to screened at the White House and is considered to be the first blockbuster film in motion picture history. My feelings about the use of blackface in both "Tropic Thunder" and "Birth of a Nation couldn't be more different; I however feel no hypocrisy. "Tropic Thunder" is satire about whitewashing (and several other other concepts that aren't relevant to the discussion) in the motion picture industry. (Whitewashing is the practice of giving roles of historically black people to white people or casting black people in only subservient roles or as casting them only as criminals, prostitutes or drug dealers) As such, the role of Lincoln Osiris couldn't have been played by a black actor--no one would understand the satire if that were the case. "Birth of a Nation" on the other hand wasn't a satire but for many people including President Wilson it was an accurate portrayal of the world at that time. A world in which all black men were raping white women, a world in which black people had PROVEN that they couldn't be trusted with emancipation, and were so lacking in intelligence and culture that the leadership roles they had were a serious threat to the social fabric.( Part of the story takes place during Reconstruction when black men held elected positions--the Klu Klux Klan comes in later to restore order and protect the sanctity of white womanhood) Both movies provide A LOT of social commentary about the times in which they are set, and both movies still have a lot to say about the times we live in now. With that being said I believe that the first rule of artistic expression is the artists should understand his/audience. Some jokes are funny in some environments and totally offensive in others (just ask Michael Richards to explain that to you sometime) The second rule is just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean that's the right thing to do. Freedom of expression cannot mean freedom from consequences of said expression. Discretion and common sense are necessary to maintain a civil society.
"That's not activism. That's not bringing about change. If all you're doing is casting stones, you're probably not going to get that far." -Barack Obama
@@forickgrimaldus8301 most people nowadays just post memes and get triggered instead of taking action to solve the problem, It’s quite sad. Meanwhile most activist organizations just fundraise to pay rent. They don’t try to solve the problem they fundraise for they want the problem to persist otherwise they’ll have to go get a job.
@@acatwithafancyhat5782 Either they(activist groups) do what you just said, or play the outrage game by spinning something to imply "oh look injustice" (cough cough what BLM did cough)
@@sashimi879 blackface is done purely of mockery. Its why is offensive, because it exaggerates black features, mannerism and crank any stereotype to 11. Now tell me, where does Jr fall in all this? If you say the way he talks, well congrats. You're stereotyping. Funny how this all works, huh? The context of the character is the import note, now how you see a person and get emotionally triggered without further knowing what the character really is. Not to mention is a satire
the mere fact that these types of jokes are considered offensive in the first place is a strong testament to the fact that genuine bigotry, racism to be specific, is already largely considered taboo in the western world. humor that pushes the boundaries and challenges status quo will always be funny. it feels good to be rebellious.
I seem to recall that from the moment the movie opened, there was a huge uproar by people who were both outraged by Downey's "blackface" role and Stiller supposedly making fun of the "mentally challenged" with references to "Simple Jack." Either because they were too ignorant of the actual movie, too humorless, or just too thick-headed to see that Downey and Stiller were both engaged in an **obvious** skewering of Hollywood pretensions. To whit: Downey lampooning the extreme lengths to which "method" actors will go for a role; he does so constantly, and in other ways throughout the movie. Then there's his being continually called out on it by the movie's **actual** black cast member in some of the movies funniest scenes. Stiller was lampooning the pretensions of a B-movie, big-budget action star trying to revive his career and acquire "serious actor" relevance by playing a "deep" role that turned out to be hilariously tone-deaf and stupid, further tanking his flagging career and continually biting him in the ass until it ironically saves him later. Funny how the people who are supposed to be out intellectual betters keeps getting obvious things wrong AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Anyone who was offended forgot to bring a sense of humor to a comedy. The movie shows you it's a white actor going so over the top method, that its fuckin absurd. Taking that at face value makes it look you saw a picture of it on FB a decade later then felt mad about it.
It's offensively funny. It was intended as such that it was to point out how it's so absurd, generally tone deaf and obviously so offensive that it is satirically funny and ridiculous. The joke itself is to make fun and criticizes it's own outrageousness. But some people can not understand satire. Shakespeare would have been castrated and sentenced to death if he lived in today's politics.
I’m totally opposed to cancel culture and this is me speaking as a practising Muslim living in the west who has experienced his own fair share of racist abuse and discrimination. Freedom of speech is absolutely essential for the progress and betterment of society, without which we will be devoid of new ideas and innovation that we see countries like the PRC (China) subject to- except unlike them, our world will no longer have a free space from which to steal ideas. This isn’t an absolution for offensive and vile people who use free speech as a cover- they should face the full consequences of their actions. Yet that’s the point- they should be allowed to voice their opinion and suffer the consequences thereof if it means that others can do the same to benefit from shared perspectives and new ideas. This whole wave of cultural authoritarianism espoused by the new left and alt right is alarmingly disconcerting and should be quashed with immediacy.
Those captions are hilarious! 4:30 (Director exits stage left, right, and center) 15:10 (We are so getting demonitized...) 18:01 (Someone needs a safe space) 27:01 **patriotic applause** Fucking gold!
I watched this movie with my girl back in the day and it took her almost half a movie to notice that it was RDJ, kept saying he looked familiar... she would have never guessed it was a white dude playing that character. More so given the fact that it fits the character portrayed who goes way too hard on method acting. There is no racism here, this is not an example of blackface.
my mom always said i was the problem in society if i don't find this movie a little offensive, but i never did, i was always laughing or grinning when an offensive joke or scene came on. now i just see that she was the problem in society. im so glad i didn't let her brainwash me
good for you man. some people are so brainwashed by their tv's and media that they want to convert everyone else to their zealotry. No offense to your moms.
@@dson978 if you're mother isn't abusive, neglectful, etc, I'm really hoping you're young dude. Unless extenuating circumstances changed things that's pretty childish to state about your mother. Raunchy humor is raunchy humor, and dark humor is dark humor. Nothing wrong with liking what you like, but humor is always a subjective experience. That and you're a boy while your mother is an adult woman. Experiences shape who you are, and she may be the type that is rather tame with humor. That's not a valid reason for you to lump your mom as a problem with society lol.
Something people need to understand is that concepts are not inherently offensive or funny. A photo cannot be offensive or funny by itself. Just as a WORD cannot be offensive by itself. Nothing has bothered me more in life than this persistence that there are magic evil words you shouldn't say. Words, images, concepts, are just tools. The offensiveness comes from context. You can impart that context yourself and CHOOSE to be offended, or you can attempt to find the context the author intended, etc. For example what is more offensive: "black people are horrible and shouldn't be allowed to vote" or "in the 19th century, African Americans were often called N*****s by others as a means of belittlement" The second sentence may contain the n-word but the first sentence is more offensive and more racist. Because words themselves are not inherently bad. It's context that matters. I'd have said the actual word because, as stated, just saying a word in an exemplary fashion is not bad and so it'd make my argument stronger but the RUclips gods will probably find a way to yeet this comment anyways
There is a few names for children that are overprotected from words and ideas. Ignorant. Brainwashed. Stupid. All things come with experience. I'm not saying let your kids watch excessive violence, sexually explicit content or depraved acts. But I don't think shielding them from new ideas or differing opinions that you cannot reasonably refute yourself does them any favors.
When we mock ourselves and others we learn more about ourselves and the attitudes that exist between the groups. Humour doesn't divide us but bridges the divide between us.
Also, I'd like to make my own contribution to this piece of how I view cancel culture. In WW1 in England, if a young man was seen in public who refused to go and fight, he was forced to wear a cap with a feather in it to indicate he was a coward and to publicly shame him. Now you can have your own views on whether young men should be forced to fight for the perceived survival of your country, but i personally don't believe in national service or forced conscription, it's a choice each person has to make for themselves. Likewise, there was a thing on Instagram where people were publicly shamed for not having a black square in the corner to signify their support for blm and whilst Hollywood has always been seen as a place of people who socialise in close circles, it's now been amplified where you must support certain beliefs or values or you risk being blacklisted as if you were a commie who needed to be investigated during the macarthur years. The affect this has is that public figured no longer share their true beliefs, but only the beliefs they've been told they must adopt.
This is why Pepe the frog is seen as an international symbol of free speech. He may have radical meaning to some groups such as the kekestani party, or he may just be a dank meme. But at the heart of Pepe's existence, he is a BLANK template that can mean anything. That is free speech, being able to control the direction
The fact that you would call the meme that was the kekistani party radical, is hilarious and proves the entire point of that "movement". All of their views were perfectly sane and reasonable. But because it was conservatives and true liberals, the media outright lied about them and smeared them, as they have with literally everything conservative. You have shown yourself to be wholly uninformed.
@@gohonkyourself790 That is how the surface skimmer works, they hear something is 'extremist' therefore it is. They never look deeper or see the information for themselves, they are told.
This was a beautiful video (which sadly will be demonetized) and yes, you conveyed your ideas brilliantly. Will others allow themselves to see the clear meaning of what you said (or purposefully fog their reasoning in order to manufacture controversy)? That remains to be seen. All the same, great work!
What amazes me is the extent of freedom companies have in the US to fire someone based on personal opinions they have expressed _outside_ of their work. In most European countries this really wouldn’t fly. If someone behaves professionally at work they can spout whatever opinion they have on their own time as long as they don’t link it to their job or employer in any way. It’s to do with this thing called privacy. The L.A. soccer player that got fired over _his_ _wife’s_ tweets (not even his own) would have a field day in court in most European countries.
You know this world is on fire when a channel called "Foundation for Economic Education" gives a more constructive social commentary than these SJWs...
I have to say that I'm very happy to have come across your RUclips channel, it's very rare to discover people on this shit wreck of a platform that aren't either violently supportive of cancel culture or violently opposed to it. While I would definitely find myself on the opposed side of the argument, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone who has (seemingly) the same views as myself (those being that I am undoubtedly opposed to cancel culture, however I do not feel that violence will solve anything at the current moment, violence should only ever be the solution when all other alternatives are exasperated). I thoroughly enjoy your scriptwriting style and your editing is very clean and organized to the point where I envy it 😂. Keep up the amazing work man, you're performing a magnificent service.
Cancel culture is, if you look past the surface, racism. Because people forget race means more than just the color of your skin. Race can also be cultural or any number of other traits of a person depending on how thin of a knife you divide someone's traits to put them in a certain groups so as to dismiss them out of another one.
Thats what politcal debate is all about its not about silencing the opposition but finding holes in ones political thinking and refining it to fit the real world. These Cancel Culture people are out of touch Slactivists that not only hurt people as individuals but destroy the legitimacy of the parties they support.
I remember when I first watched this movie, the black people in the theater laughed the hardest at black face Robert Downy Jr especially at the line "What do you mean you people?" They knew it was a self aware parody and they seemed to have found Alpa Chino's reaction to Kirk Lazarus aka Lincoln Osiris especially hilarious. Woke idiots today put controversy where none exists and where none was intended.
@12:20 I would hesitate to say that the Gores were truly conservative, as they were able to cast it aside for Al, Jr. vice-presidency under the Clinton administration. For them conservative was a name tag that they switched easily.
Really, the only defense against cancel culture that I have seen is to stand firmly by what you say, even to double down on it, and to openly mock and express disdain. We need to call them out constantly, and expose their hypocrisy at every turn. The second you apologize for anything you have expressed is to admit guilt.
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Can't exactly hire a black dude to play a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude who's black.
That just wouldn't make sense.
Well, there would just be double pigmentation to go black to white to back to black, I suppose
@@irok1 We can go deeper
That's silly. If you can blackface someone, you can whiteface too.
People would complain that you are making a black man white snd it’s racist.
@@urbanprojectz or they'd think it wouldn't be racist because they'd see racism against whites as "reverse racism"
You forgot Adele for having the audacity to just lose some weight and improve her health.
I did forget about that. Sad.
She could have taken the easy route and just become a feminist.
@Adam Turner lol
@Charisma Girl doubt that,
@Charisma Girl You can win, but only if you're willing to do what's right for you and fuck what anyone else thinks. Admittedly, that's sometimes easier said than done... probably moreso if you're someone in the public eye.
Yes people... You've ruined comedy. STOP being offended on my behalf. YOU are NOT my kind.
How many black people does it tske to change a light bulb? I would give you the answer but a bunch of college students would not allow the black group of people to figure it out and assume "I'm a White supremacist" for thinking the chance that it is more than 1.
Blake Blast ok but seriously I want to know the second half of that joke.
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast yet they never think about what it means about their own thoughts that it is not possible for them to imagine that you might say one. Or that you might say that it takes at least seven, one to design it, one to mine the resources, one to process the materials, one to make it, one to sell it, one to transport it between every step, and one to actually put it in. Nope, they cannot even imagine either answer.
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast You do realise that my point is to give you the right to tell that joke? I am Portuguese. Whatever joke you have?... I've got the ban hammer trigger. xD
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As a black person I found RDJ’s role here very tasteful and hilarious 👌🏾
I cant think of ONE black person who had a problem with Tropic Thunder. RDJ did an amazing job at playing a black man he wasn't over the top and doing too much and the actual black face was really GOOD make up.
I remember Jaimie Fox saying he thought it was hilarious.
@@CONTRACTOR_SG3 There are black SJW for sure that were offended but that's not the point.
To me every topic and joke is acceptable if the butt of the joke is not making fun of the other from a superiority point.
The problem is that now content doesn't matter, only superficial appearance. Black-face is bad because it's black-face, saying black is bad because it's the word black. Context be damned.
A truly racist person can be exactly as racist but if they say "African-American" they get away with it. A non-racist person that says black is deemed as racist. It's all superficial virtue-signaling.
@@92brunod No one thinks that saying black is racist. And black-face is bad because they were white people not allowing black people a role in the entertainment industry. That’s not what this is in Tropic Thunder. They make reference to it multiple times and it’s because the character himself is so obsessed with roles, he doesn’t know who he is, and will play anyone. Don’t get it twisted it’s the tiniest minority of people that actually have an issue with this, and giant corporations are scared of any bad press.
@@roems6396 "No one thinks that saying black is racist" Then why is the term "African American" being pushed as the only acceptable, non-racist way to refer to black people?
"And black-face is bad because they were white people not allowing black people a role in the entertainment industry" I know! That's the problem. Just because something was once used for awful reasons doesn't mean the thing in itself is bad. What is actually bad is not allowing black people to act and use black characters to make fun of them, not blackface.
In my country for example "blackface" was done in the exact opposite way. White people would paint themselves black to celebrate the culture and music associated with black people with them. That's why it's beyond stupid to ostracize a thing that in itself is not a problem instead of the actual problem. It's criticizing the surface instead of the deep issue.
I'm not twisting anything. I never said it wasn't a minority so I have no idea what the second half of your comment is about. Don't make shit up I never said.
Imagine what would happen if we had a support culture, where people simply support whatever they like with their own money, and don't demand that other people cannot have things they want...
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So, capitalism
@@zuludude2 yeah, but with a cool new name so the kids will think that it is on fleek, or whatever. Fleek still means cool right? Right? 😂
imagine if we had governments that did not have quotas based on gender and race, but rather who had skill. We could go to space Australia!
Libertarians: "Let the people and the free market decide!"
The market: *deplatforms and cancels stuff because the people don't like it*
Libertarians: "wait no"
To reference Ratchet and Clank “The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.”
I'm playing through the games right now. Capitalism is the way of the world. I respect that.
@@VitaminCBable Universe, humour... "Capitalism"! Where did you see the relevance, did you hit your head?
@@luxuryvagrant6496 you haven't played the game, have you?
@@VitaminCBable That's right, I liked the case cover; I reiterate my first question though: Where did you see the relevance? Enlighten me, s'il vous plait.
@@luxuryvagrant6496 F.E.E. is constantly correlating freedom of economy with freedom in general. Rachet and Clank holds to an economic system, and maintains it. The correlation is that, in a humorous society, people tend to attribute actual price to things instead of trying to mandate absolute bans. F.E.E. should really do a video on the game series itself.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
Thank you. I'll be using that quote in the future.
That’s a great quote who’s it from
@@jorgebenitez5324 George R.R. martin I believe
Yezzir!
Woah!
"Comedy isn’t always about being nice, sometimes it’s a way to air out the ugly things that people think”
-Jeff Moreau
"Too close, Commander! Ten more seconds and we would've been swimming in molten sulphur. Our ship isn't equipped to land in exploding volcanoes. They tend to fry our sensors and melt our hull."
- Also, Jeff Moreau
You also can make parody about the totalitarian ideology of Political Correctness.
@@AlMcpherson79 "Boy am I glad to be off of Noveria, I don't know what's worse the cold or the coorperation. One will freeze your balls off, the other sell them out from under you."
"I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees... That is a joke."
EDI
Robert downy jr wasnt wearing blackface,
His character was, he knows who he is.
"I'm a dude. playing a dude, disguised as another dude"
So you're telling me that you are inside of an other man. Right ?
But Donald trump, doesn't that make you gay?!!!
i've read that with his voice lol
@@oxines6979 Babaoeey
@@Scazoid what?
Yup. It would have been inappropriate to actually use a blackfaced actor for the role in the fictional movie they were making, but as it's a fictional character it's alright - sorta like how cannibalism is bad, but Mads Mikkelson isn't actually a cannibal just because he plays one in 'Hannibal.'
The whole point of his character was to mock him because he said he was capable of acting anything.
Also, fun fact. Tropic Thunder was not only filmed in Kauai, but Robert Downey Junior went to a local burger joint call Bubba Burgers every day for lunch. Think of it as Hawaiis In-N-Out.
By the way, I've had their food. 10/10, make that a primary stop if you visit.
Teddy's Bigger Burgers is Hawaii's In-N-Out. Bubba's is only on Kauai.
Do they serve shrimp Burgers?
@@theradioactiveplayer3461, yes
Yo I love Bubba's
Should have gone to L&L's also...their grilled ahi is very good.
Considering Kindergarten Cop is now on the chopping block simply because it has cop in the name, shows we need comedy now more then ever, else we risk turning into one big joke where we're the punchline.
What if we just take all the sane people, get together and buy all the land in a couple states. Make sure to get some decent farmland and ports so we can sit back and watch the cities burn while enjoying life.
@@zuludude2 Or, how about we evacuate a few states, probably on the west coast for simplicity's sake, of everyone who wants to leave to avoid the crazies. Then, we forcefully deport all of these fucking lunatics into those evacuated states, wall off the borders and enforce them with military units (as one should regardless IMO), and just let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they leave the rest of us be.
If we do it this way, most of us dont even have to move and we can still be without the morons! Besides.... I _really_ dont want to surrender Texas, even if I would like the overall outcome. And I kind of like the idea of watching California burning itself down the rest of the way... If we're really lucky, maybe mother nature will let them fall into the Pacific never to be seen or, mercifully, heard from again.
Or a joke without a punchline... it never eeeeeeends! :)
In the '60s and '70s, they used satirical comedy. Now the news, itself, is self-satire. No room for comedians. That niche has been taken over by demented news anchors.
@@imapopo2924 hahaha ill help with the evacuation, or maybe we can give California to the Japanese
Thank you! It's so refreshing to hear someone rationally talk about this without getting emotional and contentious.
Nothing offensive about Black Tony Stark 😅😅. Tropic thunder is an absolute classic
“I’m a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude!”
Agreed1 This was funny as hell when it came out!
@@acatwithafancyhat5782 what do you mean you people?
(Booty juice guy)
What do youuu mean you people?
@@HalfWarrior I mean you have jack black fight a kid warlord for heroin 😅 anything remotely funny is usually offensive to some group
@nymersic well some people want to get offended by things so they see racism/sexism/etc everywhere they are just miserable people. While lot of comedy is shock comedy which his great hearing a joke that has a serious shock result. Realistically because it's a joke it's comedy technically none of its offensive because it's not of malicious nature
People "feel" offended about things that really have nothing to do with them. These types of people want to pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they are good people because of how they feel. Your offended feelings does not make you a good person. It makes you intolerant to ideas other than your own.
This his been a fact through much of human history, it's just today it has a silly name.
@JOSHUA MILLER Very well put!
@JOSHUA MILLER bruh I think those kids who were screaming BLM at you were trollin'; they know how much it upsets the coppers.
The biggest thing people need to do is stop differentiating people. We're people. Stop making a certain characteristic define and group people.
YT's automated censorship is one of the worst things created in the past few years. It destroys conversations by taking away people's voices.
@@encycl07pedia- RUclips is part of the Marxist movement to destroy the United States.
Downey's character is asked when will he drop character. He replies "I don't drop character until I do the DVD commentary." In the actual DVD commentary with Ben Stiller and Jack Black, Downey is still in character! It's hilarious! One of my favorite commentary tracks.
That shit had me rolling.
Downey is great
Yep
Those are best kind of commentary tracks
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen. I’ve been fighting for Tropic Thunder for years. I had friends who refused to watch it because of the use of the r-word, and for RDJ’s “blackface” and I’ve begged them to see the satire and the commentary on Hollywood and realize that it’s not the problem, it’s revealing the problem and exposing it. Your breakdown really captures the nuance of the issues and the actual problems vs the recognition of those same problems. We have to be able to talk about this stuff without fear of being silenced, and comedy is one of the best mediums to break down those walls and generate a dialogue for change, excellent job,
Hear, hear!
You need to get yourself a new group of friends
@@tomoakley760 yeah I’m not friends with those people anymore. It was back when the movie came out
"I’ve begged them to see the satire and the commentary on Hollywood and realize that it’s not the problem, it’s revealing the problem and exposing it."
They don't care! They don't care for content or context. Someone said a word that's not allowed? RACIST! It's much easier to act superior by just not saying a BAD WORD and to criticize the surface.
As long as a truly racist person avoids doing black-face and says "African-American" they have no issue with them. A person criticizing racism says "black" and they're the devil. Because they don't care about the issue, it's just pathetic virtue signalling and a way to appear morally superior. It's sickening.
whats amazing is that when the movie came out, people had zero issue with RDJ playing the role, all the hate was all about the simple jack plot line, and now how many years later, RDJs part is now being targeted.
"If someone calls you stupid you rightly should be offended, but that doesn't mean you can start a campaign to prevent people from using the word 'stupid' - that would be stupid." - Arran Lamas
Beautiful. This is why I hate the term "normalize." Sure be weird, be you! You shouldn't give two fucks about the haters. But don't try to "normalize" your idiosyncrasies onto the culture. That's just annoying
I called someone's actions stupid and another (albeit younger) person said it was inappropriate to call someone stupid and gave me a lecture. She was very angry.... and apparently deaf. I did apologize and rereclarify, but I couldn't unpress the button. Easily triggered.
This very nicely summarizes just about everything wrong with SJWs
Did you miss the 'ban bossy' campaign?
'and it would only prove the point that you're stupid'
Should've this as addition but eh, whoever it is that say this quote. Good Job.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
@ Someone did. They are right.
Noble principle. And famous last words before being suckerpunched from behind, cut down and trampled underfoot by the angry mob crying for the blood of all oppressors.
What a world.
So you took that from Crowder.
@@SkyExplosion lmao that is a very old saying dating back way before crowder was born.
To quote Ricky Gervais:
"You found it offensive? I found it funny! That's why I'm happier than you!"
then you watch somebody say "yeah because of your white privilege"
@@phallicusoblongus white privilege doesn't exist. I dare anyone to argue with me, I'm Scottish and know full well what prejudice feels like... my ancestors were also sold as slaves hundreds of years before America was even "discovered".
@@SA80TAGE I think you misunderstand my comment
@@phallicusoblongus why? I'm not arguing with you.
@@SA80TAGE Just like Emperors of Egypt when civilizations were first forming, they also used white people as slaves. It might not be as recent but it's still slavery either way.
Cancel culture is like an infestation of cockroaches on social media. This video is well made... massive props💯
They are far worse than cockroaches, cockroaches are scavengers, not parasites, they are more like a spreading cancerous malariatic infestation of polyps with mouths and claws which crawl through systems feasting on the minds of others. And I did invent a word.
Its a cancer on our society
@@MBEG89 that’s the simple way to say it.
You support racism congrats.
@@iamthatiam1944 you are the embodiment of it.
Also,
Not racism, cockroaches are not a race, it’s called speciesism.
The difference is species supremacy the other is race supremacy, most, non scientific (particularly people which don’t understand how evolution actually works) that is, people are often speciesist.
Basically, seeing a human or animal as superior, we all evolved from the same originator however, so it really doesn’t make sense that one would be better than another.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
NPCs can't do that since they don't have an inner dialog. Adults are able to have little arguments in their head, it helps rationalize their point of view and understand people who disagree with them. When you don't have that ability, what you 'know' must be a universal truth and therefore everyone who disagrees is sub human.
A mind of higher intelligence. Any stupid MoFo can get an education.
Educated is not the correct term. Academia consists of almost entirely close-minded, bigoted, psychopathic control freaks. People need to possess Intellectual Morality which means to not hold onto a belief once the facts have been made available to you. The left accuses the right of actions they themselves are performing and when you prove who the guilty are, the only excuse the come up with is "Well, everybody does it".
A mark, maybe not THE mark. Education, I hope, is a little more intricate.
@@teej783 I think that perhaps the word we're looking for here is, "maturity"
There's a MASSIVE difference between black face and a satire on black face. Tropical Thunder is a satire.
there must be a blackface actor that wasnt doing satire on blackface whose role / movie was worthwile, probably during black&white era
The problem is the people complaining have no understanding of nuance... or context.
Nobody in the theatre knew it was blackface.
What purpose did it serve? Couldn't you simply get another black actor?
It's not like they excluded people of color from this movie.
But at the end of the day does it really matter
Blackface is from minstrel shows. in the late 1830s on theaters. Though the BBC did have "The Black and White Minstrel Show" until the late 70s.
I don't think you get, " I'm a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude"
Exactly
Did you even watch the whole thing?
Ben Sebastian he’s a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude!
I know who I am!
I'm a dude talking to a dude who doesn't know any dudes!
_"A white actor, a white actor, playing a white Australian actor, playing a black man, in blackface. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!"_
- Cuba Gooding Jr. announcing Robert Downey Jr.'s Academy Award nomination. 😁
The only solution to cancel culture is fostering a less offended society, stop caving to cries of offence and start ignoring or ridiculing them
the problem is society is getting offended at the wrong things, people turn a blind eye to pedophiles getting "acceptance"
@Kurt Barryman Yes. The Thesis needs its Antithesis, canceling each other out, paving the way for the Synthesis. You're playing right into their hands. This is what they want you to do. To throw the US into turmoil, weaken its defences, so they can walk right over you. The cold war has never ended.
@Kurt Barryman
To what extent are you aware?
A plan that was devised half a century ago (or maybe further back) is comming to fruition. The fall of the iron curtain was part of it. The ideological subversion of your country and other western nations is complete. What happens in the US is no coincidence. The goal is great civil unrest. I guess "civil/race war" you'd call it. What we see now is just the prelude and nothing in comparison to what is to come.
Trump plays a great role in this. The Russians wanted him into office. They are at it again in 2020. He is the trigger to the masses of indoctrinated SJWs, NeoMarxists, usefull idiots.
The animosities between China and Russia are staged. Their inner circles work in unison.
Now the Russians created the first corona-virus vaccine, planning to distribute it widely (in their country) starting october. Even though the medical science community said 2021 at the earliest and when lucky. Heroes and Saviors of the world. And Trump, the bad guy, the incompetent. The US is getting more and more isolated. Chinas fentanyl production and export is another devious attack to undermine the state and demoralize the people.
What do you think will happen when Trump will win the election? The indoctrinated righteous idiots are already rioting in the streets, looting, attacking police stations, attacking police. Riled up by agitators. BLM, AntiFa, financed by Soros, an Hungarian, a Soviet.
The west has lost the (cold) war. I can see one counter-strategy that could work, not sure to what extent. Too many variables and unknowns. The Americans had to create their own "inner circle", an invisible state, completely cut off from an outer world. The Soviets on the other hand would anticipate this move. Mh.
Btw. i'm not white. You may see me as beneath you and as an enemy, but i don't see you as a threat to my way of life.
@@palasta I'm from Germany and when the Berlin Wall fell everything was good for a while. Now we are seeing the rise of censorship, data collection and deplatforming. Just like they did in the GDR. An acquaintence of my mom who was born in the GDR once said: "When the wall fell, you thought you were integrating the communists. We just infiltrated you."
@@HeresorLegacy Yes. Funny, when Merkel was asked, if she ever was with the Stasi. Supposedly she replied, that she declined their offer to work for them and told the Stasi she isn't good at keeping secrets. Or Lothar De Maiziere, who denies his Stasi past to this day.
I’m black and I found it hilarious, please let me laugh during these troubling times
The only people saying its racist never saw the movie, he literally gets called out in the movie for pretending to be black.
@@ralcogaming7674 I saw the movie and I say it is racist.
@@PoopyBarfy how does it feel to be so incredibly wrong?
@@PoopyBarfy What is race? ruclips.net/video/u5GCetbP7Fg/видео.html
I saw a video about the original Twitter poster that started this whole thing, and she admitted to not watching the movie, and after watching it and realizing the context recanted, but by then it was too late.
All speech is hate speech to someone. Cancelling someone just because “their truth” isn’t consensus is stupid. It’s a form of McCarthyism.
Problem being, McCarthyism wasn't even McCarthyism as most people believe it to be...
McCarthy was trying to put Communists in the military and government. The Hollywood carp was later and he was out of office by then.
It's actually backwards McCarthyism. Instead of witch-hunts against socialists and communists. It's socialists and communists witch-hunting moderates and conservatives.
@@riopato2009 The social ousting of differing opinions is where i was drawing the connection but i see your point
No all speech is not hate speech to someone. Hate Speech apologists use this as a way to silence critics. In the process doing the same thing you acuse your critics of doing.
"Hate speech apologists" have no power. Censors have the power; hate speech is the lie they concoct to justify their tyranny.
I love how cancel culture is essentially eating itself alive. Nowadays you see people who supported canceling others are now getting called on for cancelation themselves. As someone who despises cancel culture mobs who get offended by the smallest thing, I think it's funny to watch the cancellers getting canceled.
"it's just criticism" they cry, as they call the employer.
"it's just criticism" they cry, as they call the school.
"it's just criticism" they cry, as they contact the domain registrar.
"it's just criticism" they cry, as they post the home address.
"it's just criticism" they insist, as they contact the bank.
"it's just criticism" they insist, as they contact the payment processor.
"it's just criticism" they insist, as they gather outside the house.
"it's just criticism" they insist, as they gather the kindling.
"it's just criticism" they shout, as they swarm the car.
"it's just criticism" they shout, as one shoots at the passengers.
"it's just criticism" they shout, as they shatter the windows.
"it's just criticism" they shout, as they drag them out.
"it's just criticism" they shout, as they kill you in the street.
@Kurt Barryman Can I be white with you, please? Is it a skin-colour thing or can I choose which side of the fence I want to "struggle" (Woops, revealing lapsus) from?
@Kurt Barryman I disagree, there are many blacks, jews and other minorities who hate the sjw as much as you do, heck, I already follow a lot of then. What you're proposing is just to pay tribalism with more tribalism, it will not work, you will just end up forcing everyone who is not according to your definition of white to join the Marxist side.
Your group will also inevitable end up saying horrible or anti-minority things, and the sjw will love it! They will pick your posts and show to the whole world. And with it, will convince the centrists and moderate whites to join their side.
Think about it, the active users on the internet are not a reliable representation of the real world, the majority of people only receive their news by the big media, and most of said media support the far left.
Also, you must understand that the majority of those who hate you are white. Check any far left group, and you will always see more whites than any other race.
Man... Recently an black man who is pro-Trump, Bernell Trammell, was murdered by antifa.
@Kurt Barryman Right, so once I weasle my way in as a half-cast, do you reckon that I'd be able to lobby for the right to vote to be conditioned by certain criteria (No criminal record, a certain tenure in work or/and finance for example).
I ( And the parties that I support) would argue that the right to vote and reproduce are privileges that people are to prove themselves worthy of, responsibilities that should not be given (or taken) lightly. Then use those barriers to entry into the ruling class to out-manoeuvre "Whites" until the ruling class is basically comprised of people like me... Seduce popular masses with government handouts, stiffle the middle class with taxes and have the wealthy collude with the ruling class to not have the popular masses set upon them.
MMmm, I'm loving it; badapapapaaa.
@Kurt Barryman History is long so we could pull out different lessons until the cows come home. Let's start with something that we have experienced in our real, concrete lifetime.
Take a rather basic biology lesson, remember that biodiversity produces stronger organisms (Allergies, immunity and general resilience, etc). Do I need to continue explaining or have you retained enough from secondary-school biology lessons?
Yeah, I'll add this point: monocrops have a higher tendency to suffer from disease and are less adaptable to changing conditions (Adaptability is a key to evolution).
Save your sperm from irrelevance, Kurt; embrace genetic blending. Your children andyour children's children and their children will really be better off for it.
@Kurt Barryman I will get back you when I have enough spare time and think of it. I see cracks that I want to breach. TBC
Freedom of speech is one of our most valuable rights. Protect it at all costs.
Your name is literally fucking Josh's Epic Minecraft Videos and the icon is fucking Baldy basics, so it's kinda hard to take you seriously there.
@@mikopolaruso1525 ok lol
It’s a little late for that. Say the “wrong” thing and you’re fired. Post the “wrong” thing and you’re banned from social media. Dude - we’re already living in tyranny. It’s gonna get worse, too. Say the wrong thing a few years from now and you’ll be imprisoned, or executed....look at history. It repeats itself.
Nice profile picture
Rights are like muscles. if you don't use them, they go away.
Kudos to all 1st and 2nd amendment auditors! (Except those who try to stir up shit for no reason)
"Speech has consequences" may be a truthful statement, but I am not a fan of people throwing that expression around thinking it entitles them to bully others into silence. The fact that someone reacts to what you say is the consequence itself, but that doesn't serve as a blanket excuse for just any way they choose they react to it.
I 1000% agree with you on this. That phrase has been taken out of context for the past couple of years.
@@lancethefilmguy9392 When someone misinterprets what I say, I am the one who says "No, I said x,y,z precisely; words have meanings you know" Then I hope not to push into hitting me. Some people will resort to violence when they do not have the word to dominate a situation.
Yes, speech is no excuse for violence.
@@jjkrayenhagen Easy for you to say; your name sounds like a war-cry.
It's too often used to imply that since SOME consequences should be expected, that somehow all consequences are ok.
This episode might have been difficult to right but damn well succeeded in giving a good food for thought, thank you.
Lesson: never apologize to the mob or the woke crowd. Tell them to pound sand and that you'll do it again. Then do it again and rub it in their faces. If you are going to do something or say something then stand behind it.
@T Gartner I'll do it again.
@T Gartner he is right tho, snowflake
@T Gartner throwing the word edgelord? do you actually know what the term means? because i don't see edge here, only salt
The mob takes an apology as an admittance of wrong doing not as the penance if you admit to wrong doing then is the time for punishment which either ends when they get tired of you and move on or until your life is done (what ever that may mean)
Plus, if you apologise it will never be enough, if you do then they will demand something else, then it's not enough again and they will force you to live by their rules. What kind of life is that, where you have to bid by the will of some lunatics on the internet?
Imagine your belief structure is so shaky that is single image can rock it.
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🐍 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
I don’t get it ?
BLM and the leftist ideology in a nutshell.
@@DemarcusAurelius403 "no step on SNEK!" Is a nod to the "Don't tread on me" flag of Libertarianism, and it basically means leave me tf alone.
"What do you mean YOU people?"
"What do YOU mean you people?"
The joke was that he was in blackface that was the set up and the punchline of his whole character they even talk in the movie itself about how it was "controversial"
"Are you saying that because I'm black?"
"Are you saying that because I'm white?"
*Smiles" "I thought so!"
*Conversation continues normally.*
^This was part of an actual conversation I had. People need to chill about race.
@@hariman7727 there was a running joke when I was in high school that I was black (I'm a ginger I'm as far from black as I can be) because someone stuck the label of a cake on me that said "chocolate cake with white frosting" there was a guy who was in highschool when I was in elementary, and we all called him black jessie. We're a small area mostly white and race has never been an issue here
@@hariman7727 its always been the first thing someone says when they dont want to answer for shitty actions they know they are guilty of.
No he's playing a crazy satire role, his charecter represents the worst aspects of method actors, it's very funny he actually believes he's black
A classic example of this type of humor is in almost every episode of The Office. At one point, Michael says: Kelly, you are Hindu, you believe in the Buddha. The Audience might then laugh. They aren’t laughing because they are against Hindus. They are laughing at Michael’s ignorance and acknowledging that they shouldn’t say something like that.
It's really hard to justify this kind of humor when I attempt it, got any advice?
@@tequt Wouldn’t recommend that you do- it’s much funnier in plays or impressions if you’re portraying a character, not yourself. Unless you’re among some close friends who understand your parodying.
So yeah- if you can do good impressions, of someone like Michael Scott, or Batman, or Donald Trump who are known for saying insensitive things nonchalantly without even knowing it- then maybe you can get it to work. I personally do Batman sometimes. For example, if a friend asks me what I thinks about an issue such as COVID I can say “I think it’s creating injustice. Everyone mask up like me! And we can end crime” in a Batman voice. Obviously it varies how insensitive or ridiculous you can go.
If you are physically assaulted for hurting someones feeling or saying something awful to someone, you are the victim of an immoral act, not them.
Of course. You would be the victim of assault. But you would not be a "victim" if someone decided that they would prefer not to be your friend anymore because you say mean things to them all the time.
I don't think we have to insist that all speech is morally acceptable. People utter immoral things all the time. But not every immoral thing should be met with eradication. The _actual_ principle of an eye for an eye is a much better guide: that the severity of the punishment should match the severity of the act. Saying something awful should be met with roughly equal consequences.
@@BladeOfLight16 So in other words counter speech with speech not trying to destroy a persons lively hood?
It's absurd that this has to be said. This should be a universal knowledge that everyone in their right mind should know. But clearly, it isn't.
It’s not necessarily “SUPER” funny, but it’s not “Super” offensive either. Robert is the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
offense is only ever taken never given if you find it offensive than that is your problem hell in a predominantly black country one of it's most beloved comedians (Leon Schuster) is famous for putting on black face and they love him for it
michaelkeha I don’t find this offensive, RDJ is almost hilarious in this lol. Not the funniest thing I’ve ever seen, but it’s funny.
Even here in Kenya if you try and critisize a politician for mistakes done it immidietly turns tribal if you are from a majority tribe you can't even dare speak against the corruption from a leader who comes from a minority tribe
It’s not offensive at all. This is stupid.
But do you know who you are?
I am not a fan of cancel culture when it comes to canceling things that we don't like. That's just so inept of people to do. There's an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when the gang (the cast) remakes Lethal Weapon and most of them wear blackface. I laughed my ass off because they actually were aware enough in writing and performances to point out how racist blackface is. That show is frickin hilarious. People need to be offended and also disagree peacefully so we can grow as critical thinkers. Cancel culture regresses this notion. And I pretty sure there's someone who will want to cancel my opinion. It's a social commentary that they talk about in this video. Thanks for making this video. Lovely critical analysis of cancel culture.
FINALLY, you acknowledge the connection between cancel culture and the moral guardians of the past.
@Kurt Barryman
Collectivism is the exact bullshit that led to cancel culture in the first place. Marxism feeds the fire of cancel culture by emphasizing a greater good, as if society is a herd of sheep and the cancelers are its shepherds. Moreover, a blind disregard for the rights and wellbeing of the individual is what made Hitler's Germany so bad. Hitler copped to it himself in one of his speeches.
So no, the answer is NOT to engage in the same race-based collectivist bullshit that already lost its war over 70 years ago.
18:18 "If you don't properly understand the meaning of an action or the expression of an idea, how in the world do you expect to accurately judge its moral value?"
Cancel culture already solved that little problem. Everything, and I mean *everything* , is interpreted solely within the context of each individual's perspective. If *I* find it offensive, it *is* offensive, and therefore must be cancelled. This is the logical ramification of moral relativism - that is, that there are no moral absolutes. Except, you know, the absolutes that cancel culture agrees on, like men in general are bad - and especially that Orange Man.
... How cancel culture people dress themselves in the morning, I have no idea.
@ゴロゴロ please, the CCP *funds* the cancel mob, and I'm not surprised if prominent cancel sheep *worship* the CCP, because its these people who deflect criticism of the CCP as "racist, ignorant" or whatever buzzword these mongrels pull out of their arses
Racism and ignorance are a real thing, and relativeness does not always lead to entiled manchildren that think their world is the only one
But some of the stuff said here has been proven by unbiased data
(director exits stage left, right, and center) KEK
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@@tsardudebroii if there was anyone in that movie that desperately deserve to be, "canceled...."
@@tsardudebroii what
@@flyxhs5858 the youtuber sometimes talks about the game called Team Fortress 2 short for (TF2)
KEK
Leon Schuster from South Africa is a well known comedian who paints sometimes paints his face black and goes out in public to do pranks on people and black and white people love him. People will always look for something to complain about because they hate their lives
I was with you up until around 23:00. While I agree that a world where everyone shouts "bigoted slurs" at each other would be a bad world to live in it is the fact people are being artificially restricted in shouting bigotted slurs against each other that is, at least in part, the problem.
Expressing opinions that offend others should be allowed. While I considered various circumstances that should be excluded, the classic been "inciting" an act against another, I found that "problematic" because "inciting" is an insidious notion. It is a bit like the tired argument against "pornography" as being "corrupting and depraving" namely, "it is hard to define but I know it when I see it". The case that spells this out the most is Scotland v Count Dankula regarding the "Nazi Pug". Count Dankula was found guilty of a hate crime, one that "potentially" incited hatred against the Jewish people according to the Scottish judicial system for a joke video. Google is your friend, Google Count Dankula nazi pug, watch videos.
In short, the law should not prevent us from insulting each other nor expressing opinions that offend. We should only be held accountable when our speech is demonstrably linked to specific harmful events that we demonstrably (beyond a reasonable doubt) intended to happen.
Prohibition of speech does not work, it just contains and reinforces the notions of those unable to express themselves. Let them do it and face counter-arguments and insults, but not cancel culture and incitements to physically assault them, such as the "bash a Nazi" campaign - real meaning beat up anyone you think is a Nazi, which is usually being someone who does not agree with you entirely or happens to have a certain haircut.
The premise is that bad ideas should be expressed and the only consequence should be a social one in terms of people being able to call you out, argue with you or just insult you; frankly, internet (social) justice can be far harsher than legal justice, just ask this Texas Judge:abcnews.go.com/US/judge-beat-daughter-remorseful/story?id=14873563.
I also didn't like that he stated that if you get a reaction you shouldn't consider yourself a victim. Then shows an individual being slapped for words. No if someone uses violence against you for words then yes you are the victim. As long as it is just words in reaction then that's just their right. The issue is that they step it up to actual violence or ruining someone's life over words. That is the other terrible part of this cancel culture. And I don't think this youtuber gets that.
@Myles Puckett That would be attempting to incite violence.
I love how its mostly white people getting offended for things against other cultures yet those people literally laugh at the jokes
As a Native...i see plenty of black people get offended by these things, but for some reason, they dont seem to get offended until after the white people do.
that being said?
white people are ignorant racists.
Black people are hateful racists.
the difference?
a white person doesnt realize they are being racist 90% of the time (at least when it comes to cultural things)
A Black person sits there and screams a Native American man, for 'stealing our land' because for some reason, there are a LOT of black people who think Native Americans dont exist, and are white people faking it, and that black people were the original inhabitants of north america...and i wish this was an exaggeration...
@@dreamwolf7302 wow lol u are generalizing ppl that is literally racist...
Go tell ur story to the kkk 🤣 i bet theyll love it
@@bobchipman7737 How about i go tell the Black Panthers?
they were the ones threatening to murder me, my wife, and my kids when we tried to go see the Black Panther Marvel Movie.
@@dreamwolf7302 well u still alive arent u...ive been threatened many times by white ppl for small things but ill never hate them coz im a man and fear doesnt controll me.
Get that victim mindset outer my sight
I love black ppl ,i love white ppl i love all ppl.
And my bad experience with a few will never make me such a coward .🤣
@@dreamwolf7302 when in actuality when white people settled in America they didn't have enough labor force to build a nation so they sailed to Africa and bought people to be slaves from other African people because Africa's entire history involves conquest and enslaving the losers that being said the English brought back their purchased slaves but that should tell you that people don't know history anymore
I’m a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
You're the dude who don't know what dude he is!
I KNOW WHO I AM!
In this case, it's an actor playing an actor, playing an actor. It's a movie.
I am an indian and a few years ago me and my dad watched the 1968 movie 'the Party' in which peter sellers is in brown face we thought it was funny and from time to time saying that's how we'd act. it made us proud tbh
From another brown person, The Party is an all time classic, watched it as kids with our parents. "Birdy num num" was one of my favorite childhood catchphrases.
I can still see the bathroom scene where toilet paper is rolling indefinitely :D
That was my all-time favorite movie as a kid from watching it with my grandparents and I still love it today (even if I can't talk about it without fear of being ostracized from my peers)!
@@posajnejkwahb If your peers ostracize you please show them this comment from a brown person
@@hassantalpur6792 Haha will do Hassan :P Hope you have a good day!
How bout it's funny because it's offensive? Because who cares man.
Some people are offended by interracial marriage, gay rights and atheism. So why the fuck should anyone care. Yet they still do.
LoneWolfGamer No, I’m an agnostic atheist that thinks marriage is a scam made up by the government, but I don’t get offended if interracial couples/gay couples and religious/atheist people don’t share the viewpoints as mine because free speech is supposed to mean that people can have different viewpoints that might be controversial to some and having a logical debate with others that might not share those same controversial viewpoints.
At what point did "I dont agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it" turn into. "I dont agree with you therefore you are an evil "phobe" or an "ist" and I am going to hurt you for not thinking the way I do."
Its funny because its offensive AND because his char in the film gets called out on it BY the black actors char in the film
That's my policy. If you are being offensive to be offensive, then yeah, stop. But if you are being offensive as a joke then hell yeah I'll laugh with you.
"Is this face funny or offensive?"
No, Sir. It's funny BECAUSE it's offensive.
that's legit how do ppl not get it XD dark/offensive comedy is the best comedy
@@BlackestEyes709 i approve this reply...
Exactly the problem with movies today. It's funny BECAUSE it's offensive, not it's offensive BECAUSE it's funny. That's how comedies should be made, and why Tropic Thunder works.
@@rat3732 ;)
@@osmanyousif7849 everyone should have the freedom to take the piss out of each other without being labelled an ism/phobe. there's something to laughed at about everyone and anything
My two favorite episodes of Our of Frame were the Avatar episode and the Accidental Courtesy episode. But this... this really takes the cake.
I long for a day when we can be excellent to each other. When we can all learn to laugh at Jojo Rabbit and Tropic Thunder, I think we'll be better off. When we all learn to be a bit more like Daryl Davis, I know we will create lasting friendships.
Sometimes words can be painful. But the only way to truly change a heart for the better is through being a friend.
Thank you guys again for making this. Very proud to be part of the Associate Producer club. You guys rock.
Those are two of my favorites as well, and I absolutely see this one as connected to those :)
Thanks for your support!
I think it's fantastic that Always Sunny communicates the satire so well and avoided cancel culture for so long.
I keep my eyes focused on eternity. No human law (or mob rule) can take away my love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, or temperance. Like what Jesus said to Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world." People can try to cancel me all day long, but if God wants me to do something, He will give me what I need when I need it to accomplish His purpose in my life. Who can stand against that?
I didn't know there were actual living humans who look at a film literally and not in context. It's like scouring a good book with a moral story for bad words and banning it on those grounds. Thinking about it, I get nasty replies so often by people who just looked at words and were offended without having read my post. They exist. They scare me and should not ever be in a position to make decisions [based on what?]. I am serious.
I work in software, yesterday I've seem people get offended by words, those words were written in the dictionary in the leaked source code of Windows XP. They were literally asking to burn it down. I was, like, firstly, that's copyrighted material you shouldn't get access, and second, your problem is with Microsoft, go say that in public, that you read Windows XP source code and got offended by the some "racist" words in the FUCKING dictionary. And thirdly, if you don't like it, why the fuck did you download it, what's the point ? its there even a point ? you just want to feel offended at this point.
Person was literally CTRL-F for "racist" words and found the dictionary, got offended by the FUCKING dictionary. That was wild to me.
I can't even...
@@monad_tcp They have literally nothing else to fill their empty lives. Offense and grievance make them feel like they matter, and have purpose. They will pursue it until the end of their days, because it's easier to do that than it is to actually go out and find something more important to do-- and it's not as if there's a shortage of actually good causes in the world, either.
It's this stupid idea where zoomers or whatever they're called are discovering these old shows/movies now and are getting offended and DEMAND that shows made 10 years ago or older adhere to modern day sensitivities. It's utter nonsense. Like, All in the Family aired in the 70's, we were laughing at that shit in the 90's. We all understood it was a different time. We never once demanded Ethel quit being a housewife and start getting a job or whatever. We accepted the show as it was. GEEZ.
@@monad_tcp Wow. Ppl love to be offended so much that they search for it. Lol Is there some Olympic game for being offended that Idk about? Lol
@@VideoGameMasters09 That show was hilarious. Lol
Very interesting topic, I think the problem is that common sense is not as common as we think, many of those movies might be clear to some that its pointing out the stupidity of the matter. But for a lot of people they might misunderstand the whole point, and think that is how it should be. I really appreciate people that can have open and respectful conversations about any topic, I really like your videos and I am always looking forward to the next one.
cheers
this was an incredible piece of social commentary. I am so grateful you put this video together, it concisely and respectfully put into words how I've been feeling for a while now.
I think, one, the character is not funny because of the face itself. And two, it’s also not mocking black culture or people. It’s funny and appropriate because he does the character justice and it’s funny because of the character, not the face itself. It’s not “blackface” for those two reasons.
It's also not greasepaint with white lips in traditional blackface style either.
You said it was really hard to write this episode, but man did you write it well ! I think you achieved to hold up a mirror to people in a very respectful and thought out way
I recall Cancel Culture in 1997 without realizing it. It was my first year in high school when certain books were banned for being too "controversial." Switch that word out for most _"-isms"_ today and this PC problem has become progressively worse, causing people to actually *regress* in their ideas & thoughts.
We had book banning, now being taught about in school, but all of this social media cancel culture is not recognized as such. Wow, imagine this being taught about in schools in 40 years, unless of course the cancel culture gets its way
Honestly, I'd say the PC problem is worse in the past, it's just that most of us have been raised with that and don't notice the bad things when they come about. Just look at how older people look at you with weird haircuts, non-standard clothing, swearing, trying to censor all types of books and shows and games.
Getting banned off social media isn't a censorship thing. The platform shouldn't be forced to broadcast any ideas.
@@Capybarrrraaaa The problem comes when social media sites ban with bias without making the reasoning clear. When people look online, they believe they are seeing the full picture and that others simply can't understand. This creates the ability for big corporations to adjust the public's opinion in whatever ways the companies see fit. We already see this in news such as Fox and CNN broadcasting biased stories, but I'd argue that seeing a group of people online all saying the same thing does even more to sway public opinions, and when that group is manipulated and promoted in secret by the social media site, there is a big problem.
Ideas change over the years, but banning ideas on social media gives big companies the ability to manipulate the general public because the general public assumes what they see on their feed from other people is the entire story
@@irok1 "social media sites ban with bias without making the reasoning clear."
Why is that a problem? The are banning, so the reason is that they idea is against their company.
"and when that group is manipulated and promoted in secret by the social media site"
I can completely agree with that being an issue, but that's just a consequence of free-speech. It sounds like you'd advocate for something like a tax-funded social platform where people cannot be banned subjectively.
The solution here isn't to force Twitter to broadcast speech they find hateful/destructuve. That would massively violate free-speech. It's to create a platform where you can speak under your own terms.
@@Capybarrrraaaa I completely agree. The first point isn't a problem until people start taking the censored version as the objective truth for everything. Exposure to new ideas is important
I don't believe that a government platform would ever happen, much less be better than massive companies running everything.
And yes, the best solution is exactly what you said in creating a new, better platform
As Ricky Gervais said once on this topic, "just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right."
It made people laugh. Case closed.
@@TheGameMage_ Talk about extremism
TheGameMage there is a large distinction between those two scenarios and you know it.
@@TheGameMage_ no that's a pretty extreme comparison
@Vito C PERFECT hahahaah
@@downtodacore his deleted the reply, what it says?
I think it was fine in this scenario. Context is everything.
Unfortunately context seems to change every second in our current political climate.
Mike L but the one thing that can’t change is context. Literally
@@movieblocks9164 The context changes to whatever the offended party wants it to be.
I Burn Heretics not really though. People can say whatever they want about this movie but it will never actually get canceled because of the context
@@mikepez Objective context does not change, that is to say the facts are not changed. What changes is what parts are used to fit a narrative. The problem is that the media does not use the entirety of the context of a situation to report on it. Instead, they pick and choose what gets reported so that they can frame it however they like.
They claim to be journalists, but they are in fact just high profile bloggers with obvious biases.
I’ve disagreed with some ideas in the video? Yes
Did I get offended? Nope, I’ve liked the video: the main message is right.
...and that's how it's supposed to be done ;)
If you agreed with me on literally everything, what would even be the point?
Foundation for Economic Education I bet you don’t agree on everything with yourself 5 days ago. I surely don’t: that’s the beauty of life.
Good on you. A sensible human being!
I, as a Black American simply love the movie "Tropic Thunder"! I thought that Robert's performance as a Black army sergeant was brilliant--Robert deserves all of the accolades for such a fine performance. About a hundred years before "Tropic Thunder" there was another war movie in which a white actor (Walter Long) portrayed a black sergeant. That movie from 1915 was called "Birth of a Nation" (There's a remake-- in name only-- that came out about ten years ago) which is the movie that everyone refers to when they want to make a deliberately racist movie. It was the first film to screened at the White House and is considered to be the first blockbuster film in motion picture history. My feelings about the use of blackface in both "Tropic Thunder" and "Birth of a Nation couldn't be more different; I however feel no hypocrisy.
"Tropic Thunder" is satire about whitewashing (and several other other concepts that aren't relevant to the discussion) in the motion picture industry. (Whitewashing is the practice of giving roles of historically black people to white people or casting black people in only subservient roles or as casting them only as criminals, prostitutes or drug dealers) As such, the role of Lincoln Osiris couldn't have been played by a black actor--no one would understand the satire if that were the case. "Birth of a Nation" on the other hand wasn't a satire but for many people including President Wilson it was an accurate portrayal of the world at that time. A world in which all black men were raping white women, a world in which black people had PROVEN that they couldn't be trusted with emancipation, and were so lacking in intelligence and culture that the leadership roles they had were a serious threat to the social fabric.( Part of the story takes place during Reconstruction when black men held elected positions--the Klu Klux Klan comes in later to restore order and protect the sanctity of white womanhood)
Both movies provide A LOT of social commentary about the times in which they are set, and both movies still have a lot to say about the times we live in now. With that being said I believe that the first rule of artistic expression is the artists should understand his/audience. Some jokes are funny in some environments and totally offensive in others (just ask Michael Richards to explain that to you sometime) The second rule is just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean that's the right thing to do. Freedom of expression cannot mean freedom from consequences of said expression. Discretion and common sense are necessary to maintain a civil society.
"That's not activism. That's not bringing about change. If all you're doing is casting stones, you're probably not going to get that far."
-Barack Obama
Slacktivisim is the bane of activist groups.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 most people nowadays just post memes and get triggered instead of taking action to solve the problem, It’s quite sad. Meanwhile most activist organizations just fundraise to pay rent. They don’t try to solve the problem they fundraise for they want the problem to persist otherwise they’ll have to go get a job.
@@acatwithafancyhat5782 Either they(activist groups) do what you just said, or play the outrage game by spinning something to imply "oh look injustice" (cough cough what BLM did cough)
You’re quoting Obama the guy who started this whole woke movement
Uhhh Didnt barack obama drop over 20thousand bombs in 2016? How is he the one that said this quote lmfao
How is it offensive? He's just a dude disguised as another dude playing another dude
Because he did blackface
@@sashimi879 no he was just a dude, playin a dude, disguised as another dude
@@sashimi879 blackface is done purely of mockery. Its why is offensive, because it exaggerates black features, mannerism and crank any stereotype to 11. Now tell me, where does Jr fall in all this? If you say the way he talks, well congrats. You're stereotyping. Funny how this all works, huh? The context of the character is the import note, now how you see a person and get emotionally triggered without further knowing what the character really is.
Not to mention is a satire
@@sashimi879 you might have to do some research there bud
@@zkull9982 His white face was painted black
Offensive jokes are the funniest,change my mind
the mere fact that these types of jokes are considered offensive in the first place is a strong testament to the fact that genuine bigotry, racism to be specific, is already largely considered taboo in the western world. humor that pushes the boundaries and challenges status quo will always be funny. it feels good to be rebellious.
@@samanthaoboyle2316 never thought I'd heard such wise words from a hello kitty plushie
@@samanthaoboyle2316 i love the feeling of that
the feeling of actually having a brain unlike so many other idiots
”No, I don’t think I will”
If done well, yes. Offensive jokes are bad when it’s just plain racism.
I seem to recall that from the moment the movie opened, there was a huge uproar by people who were both outraged by Downey's "blackface" role and Stiller supposedly making fun of the "mentally challenged" with references to "Simple Jack." Either because they were too ignorant of the actual movie, too humorless, or just too thick-headed to see that Downey and Stiller were both engaged in an **obvious** skewering of Hollywood pretensions.
To whit: Downey lampooning the extreme lengths to which "method" actors will go for a role; he does so constantly, and in other ways throughout the movie. Then there's his being continually called out on it by the movie's **actual** black cast member in some of the movies funniest scenes.
Stiller was lampooning the pretensions of a B-movie, big-budget action star trying to revive his career and acquire "serious actor" relevance by playing a "deep" role that turned out to be hilariously tone-deaf and stupid, further tanking his flagging career and continually biting him in the ass until it ironically saves him later.
Funny how the people who are supposed to be out intellectual betters keeps getting obvious things wrong AGAIN AND AGAIN.
"I am fine with social consequences for free speech how ever I am not fine with legal consequences for free speech" -Count Dankula
This is coming from a Socialist: Count Danukla is sometimes basedpilled
Comedy may offend you, but you have no right to condemn my laughter.
Perfect quote 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
“Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right” - Ricky Gervais
@@acatwithafancyhat5782 Exactly 👍
The humorless despise those that laugh frequently -- personal observation
Awesome, new FEE video! Always a good day when I get that notification.
Anyone who was offended forgot to bring a sense of humor to a comedy. The movie shows you it's a white actor going so over the top method, that its fuckin absurd. Taking that at face value makes it look you saw a picture of it on FB a decade later then felt mad about it.
It's offensively funny. It was intended as such that it was to point out how it's so absurd, generally tone deaf and obviously so offensive that it is satirically funny and ridiculous. The joke itself is to make fun and criticizes it's own outrageousness. But some people can not understand satire. Shakespeare would have been castrated and sentenced to death if he lived in today's politics.
I don't think they were really more liberal times when Shakespeare lived however.
I’m totally opposed to cancel culture and this is me speaking as a practising Muslim living in the west who has experienced his own fair share of racist abuse and discrimination. Freedom of speech is absolutely essential for the progress and betterment of society, without which we will be devoid of new ideas and innovation that we see countries like the PRC (China) subject to- except unlike them, our world will no longer have a free space from which to steal ideas. This isn’t an absolution for offensive and vile people who use free speech as a cover- they should face the full consequences of their actions. Yet that’s the point- they should be allowed to voice their opinion and suffer the consequences thereof if it means that others can do the same to benefit from shared perspectives and new ideas. This whole wave of cultural authoritarianism espoused by the new left and alt right is alarmingly disconcerting and should be quashed with immediacy.
Those captions are hilarious!
4:30 (Director exits stage left, right, and center)
15:10 (We are so getting demonitized...)
18:01 (Someone needs a safe space)
27:01 **patriotic applause**
Fucking gold!
I watched this movie with my girl back in the day and it took her almost half a movie to notice that it was RDJ, kept saying he looked familiar... she would have never guessed it was a white dude playing that character. More so given the fact that it fits the character portrayed who goes way too hard on method acting. There is no racism here, this is not an example of blackface.
wait did she missed the beginning part before his surgery ? lazarus is white in the beginning...
quit your bullshit
@@Apudurangdinya i mean yeah maybe she did
my mom always said i was the problem in society if i don't find this movie a little offensive, but i never did, i was always laughing or grinning when an offensive joke or scene came on. now i just see that she was the problem in society. im so glad i didn't let her brainwash me
good for you man. some people are so brainwashed by their tv's and media that they want to convert everyone else to their zealotry. No offense to your moms.
@@NoxLegend1 it's ok, after I while she became my least favorite parent.
Depends on the movie, you probably shouldn't be grinning your way through Schindler list for example
@@dson978 if you're mother isn't abusive, neglectful, etc, I'm really hoping you're young dude. Unless extenuating circumstances changed things that's pretty childish to state about your mother. Raunchy humor is raunchy humor, and dark humor is dark humor. Nothing wrong with liking what you like, but humor is always a subjective experience. That and you're a boy while your mother is an adult woman. Experiences shape who you are, and she may be the type that is rather tame with humor. That's not a valid reason for you to lump your mom as a problem with society lol.
- I'm a dude, playin a dude, disguised as another dude...
I can't help it.
It kills me every single time.
I've seen Tropic Thunder for years, the movie is still as hilarious as the first time it came out in theaters.
Something people need to understand is that concepts are not inherently offensive or funny. A photo cannot be offensive or funny by itself. Just as a WORD cannot be offensive by itself. Nothing has bothered me more in life than this persistence that there are magic evil words you shouldn't say. Words, images, concepts, are just tools. The offensiveness comes from context. You can impart that context yourself and CHOOSE to be offended, or you can attempt to find the context the author intended, etc.
For example what is more offensive:
"black people are horrible and shouldn't be allowed to vote" or
"in the 19th century, African Americans were often called N*****s by others as a means of belittlement"
The second sentence may contain the n-word but the first sentence is more offensive and more racist. Because words themselves are not inherently bad. It's context that matters.
I'd have said the actual word because, as stated, just saying a word in an exemplary fashion is not bad and so it'd make my argument stronger but the RUclips gods will probably find a way to yeet this comment anyways
There are people who should be protected from words and ideas, and there's a name for these people.
They're called children.
There is a few names for children that are overprotected from words and ideas. Ignorant. Brainwashed. Stupid.
All things come with experience. I'm not saying let your kids watch excessive violence, sexually explicit content or depraved acts. But I don't think shielding them from new ideas or differing opinions that you cannot reasonably refute yourself does them any favors.
When we mock ourselves and others we learn more about ourselves and the attitudes that exist between the groups. Humour doesn't divide us but bridges the divide between us.
Humour does divide us. It doesn't bridge the divide between us.
Also, I'd like to make my own contribution to this piece of how I view cancel culture. In WW1 in England, if a young man was seen in public who refused to go and fight, he was forced to wear a cap with a feather in it to indicate he was a coward and to publicly shame him. Now you can have your own views on whether young men should be forced to fight for the perceived survival of your country, but i personally don't believe in national service or forced conscription, it's a choice each person has to make for themselves.
Likewise, there was a thing on Instagram where people were publicly shamed for not having a black square in the corner to signify their support for blm and whilst Hollywood has always been seen as a place of people who socialise in close circles, it's now been amplified where you must support certain beliefs or values or you risk being blacklisted as if you were a commie who needed to be investigated during the macarthur years. The affect this has is that public figured no longer share their true beliefs, but only the beliefs they've been told they must adopt.
Getting cancelled for something you've done in the past is like having your degree revoked for cheating once on an ungraded test
This is why Pepe the frog is seen as an international symbol of free speech. He may have radical meaning to some groups such as the kekestani party, or he may just be a dank meme. But at the heart of Pepe's existence, he is a BLANK template that can mean anything. That is free speech, being able to control the direction
dude it's just a cartoon frog it ain't that deep
Ugh no. You can LITERALLY say that for any other meme. They are all templates, this is not new
The fact that you would call the meme that was the kekistani party radical, is hilarious and proves the entire point of that "movement". All of their views were perfectly sane and reasonable. But because it was conservatives and true liberals, the media outright lied about them and smeared them, as they have with literally everything conservative. You have shown yourself to be wholly uninformed.
@@gohonkyourself790 That is how the surface skimmer works, they hear something is 'extremist' therefore it is. They never look deeper or see the information for themselves, they are told.
Might wanna ask the actual creator of Pepe how he feels about his work being hijacked by scumfucks, trolls, and lunatics.
This was a beautiful video (which sadly will be demonetized) and yes, you conveyed your ideas brilliantly. Will others allow themselves to see the clear meaning of what you said (or purposefully fog their reasoning in order to manufacture controversy)? That remains to be seen. All the same, great work!
I had no idea that was Robert Downey Jr. in black face. I always thought it was just some black guy
So you haven't seen the movie?
But he was white for like the first part of the movie.
But they said he got a 100% real surgery to change his skin color at the beginning of the movie.
I was told that after , I just enjoyed the movie . My reply was so what ?
I missed the first part of the movie so I was in total shock when he took off the wig and wiped off his make up
What amazes me is the extent of freedom companies have in the US to fire someone based on personal opinions they have expressed _outside_ of their work.
In most European countries this really wouldn’t fly. If someone behaves professionally at work they can spout whatever opinion they have on their own time as long as they don’t link it to their job or employer in any way. It’s to do with this thing called privacy.
The L.A. soccer player that got fired over _his_ _wife’s_ tweets (not even his own) would have a field day in court in most European countries.
I assume youre talking about east europe because in EU countries people have been fined and imprisoned for hateful speech
You know this world is on fire when a channel called "Foundation for Economic Education" gives a more constructive social commentary than these SJWs...
what does that have anything to do it?
@@cormacmaher2 I can't even begin to wrap my head around how you fail to see the connection.
@@demonking86420 Nigga, I don't know what I meant, that comment's a month old!
What, were you smoking coriander or sumtin?
@@ELbabotas1 "This ain't weed, Shaggy"
I have to say that I'm very happy to have come across your RUclips channel, it's very rare to discover people on this shit wreck of a platform that aren't either violently supportive of cancel culture or violently opposed to it. While I would definitely find myself on the opposed side of the argument, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone who has (seemingly) the same views as myself (those being that I am undoubtedly opposed to cancel culture, however I do not feel that violence will solve anything at the current moment, violence should only ever be the solution when all other alternatives are exasperated). I thoroughly enjoy your scriptwriting style and your editing is very clean and organized to the point where I envy it 😂. Keep up the amazing work man, you're performing a magnificent service.
Finally someone had to say it. And I'm glad you did
Cancel culture is, if you look past the surface, racism. Because people forget race means more than just the color of your skin. Race can also be cultural or any number of other traits of a person depending on how thin of a knife you divide someone's traits to put them in a certain groups so as to dismiss them out of another one.
I debate politics with one of my co-workers everyday but we are still good friends and don't let it go to far and often reach a shared idea
This is what I call a normal political person
Thats what politcal debate is all about its not about silencing the opposition but finding holes in ones political thinking and refining it to fit the real world.
These Cancel Culture people are out of touch Slactivists that not only hurt people as individuals but destroy the legitimacy of the parties they support.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 facts g
@Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes Im glad we still have reasonable people in society
"Talk less. Smile more. Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for."
~Aaron Burr (Leslie Odom Jr), _Hamilton_
"Comedy is subjective, isn't that what they say?"
-Arthur Fleck.
I remember when I first watched this movie, the black people in the theater laughed the hardest at black face Robert Downy Jr especially at the line "What do you mean you people?" They knew it was a self aware parody and they seemed to have found Alpa Chino's reaction to Kirk Lazarus aka Lincoln Osiris especially hilarious. Woke idiots today put controversy where none exists and where none was intended.
Best & most detailed discussion of this issue that I've heard. This should have a couple million views.
I don’t think TheirTube would allow that. They censor and suppress intelligent viewpoints.
I can't say what I want to
Even if I'm not serious
I can't say what I want to
Even if I'm just kidding.
- Hush by TOOL
@12:20 I would hesitate to say that the Gores were truly conservative, as they were able to cast it aside for Al, Jr. vice-presidency under the Clinton administration. For them conservative was a name tag that they switched easily.
Really, the only defense against cancel culture that I have seen is to stand firmly by what you say, even to double down on it, and to openly mock and express disdain. We need to call them out constantly, and expose their hypocrisy at every turn. The second you apologize for anything you have expressed is to admit guilt.