He is old school just based on the sound of his snare. It isn't cranked way up like a lot of marching snares are these days. A sound I remember, and like, from my own marching days, Purple Lancers, Auburn NY, 1967-1974. The other thing is not as much an emphasis on speed. I could actually make out what rudiments he was playing most of the time. The other - not so much. Everything was a blur.
first guy is Charlie Poole. Taught the 27th Lancers in the 70s and till 86 when they folded. Won many individual titles. Marched Boston Crusaders in the 60s
@Bugay Den he is the very last one. He is very good too. He played in the blue devils drum line when he was only 12! ||| ruclips.net/video/H0_OkH30BXA/видео.html
Charlie Poole is legend. Great to see him playing. I've seen Scojo have better days on the drum, but his enthusiasm while watching the other players really shows his genuine joy and enthusiasm for the craft. Prosprie's still got the chops, but the antics can go. Casey was freaking impeccable, as indicated by the fact that he's the only one who managed to bring a smile to Charlie's face. If you want to see Brandon at full-length look up the vid for 2019 DCI Snare Champion. TOTAL beast.
I had no idea this was a thing (PASIC 2018). These folks have been doing this for a long time. Some longer than others. All of them are skilled in their craft. I listen to all sorts of music. All the drummers, guitar players, keys, vocals, bassist, have their own techniques from their background and influences. It is so clear that the same goes for the marching snare. Everyone has their own unique sound. Love it
All were great. I liked Charlie Poole best. Nothing fancy, no stick tricks, just great drumming. Plus the drum had better volume. I think he is in my age group too.
Charles Poole is about real rudimental drumming, has nothing to do with age. He's not into tricks, juggling and being a clown. In my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest activities between United States and Canada. Thousands of drum and bugle Corps have fell by the wayside. They turned the activity into a marching band competition superimposed on a three-ring circus.
@@americanspirit8932 well that’s an opinion. Personally I think dci and these new groups have helped modernize drumming and expand it. The tricks and the new snare builds and sound are apart of the newer era of drumming. If anything performing and mastering tricks while playing complex rhythms shows that you have skill and adds to the visual aspect of drumming.
@@americanspirit8932 are you mad that it also has a visual aspect as well? Drumming has not dwindled in musicality at all. Look at the recently lines and their music. Then look at the stick tricks they do. Barely any. You realize millions STILL watch drum corps right? Just because you throw a fit over the sport evolving and you not doesn't mean others aren't following along. I can't with these blind old heads
@@americanspirit8932 honestly I think its MORE musical now! A bunch of Charlie's solo was the same tempo, a bunch of 16ths with crazy stickings and rudiments. Dude new lines are insane. Like Blue coats this season, they had a seventhlet in 6, you know how hard that is? And how nice it sounds? Then SCV's writing is just beautiful. They are constantly adding new times as well as new sounds. I've seen 5:3, 7:6, 8:9, Fivelets fit into the spacings of triplet putaduhs. Brandon's solo constantly flexed in musicality, constantly bringing it up in dynamics and down. Bumping up the tempo and slowing it down. Effortlessly pulling off some rudiments and stickings that Charlie had and even better! Drum corps is evolving, stop being blind and appreciate the evolution of music
Poole is way more of my style but also this just proves that I am still not very good at snare after 23 years. My students think I have godlike rudimental ability but that’s just them not realizing what is possible.
Yeah,Beckham is a beast but he marched 1981 27th lancers and apparently they were trash according to some folks here. Sarcasm btw. Lol. Beckham is old skool but he can play literally anything.
First and last were my fav. For me drums and percussion are about rhythm. I want to feel the beat, and they both had a theme of musicality that brought them above. They were all amazing, way better than I could hope to be without a whole ton of passion and commitment. At this high level, kinda everyone has the techniques down, I believe it becomes personal preference that starts to really set people apart.
Love the performance by Charlie Poole. Everything is so old school and simple. No flashy visuals, leading into every other measure with a 5/7 stroke, that good stroke everything thing out technique, rudiments played great. Love it. I'm a student of Marty Hurley so my influences may be talking but I enjoyed it.
I believe Marty Hurley, was a member of the budget Sacrament golden knights, who Bobby Thompson taught for many years, the Golden Nights at one of the best drum lines ever any activity. I was fortunate enough to compete against the Blessed Sacrament golden knights when I was a snare drama with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York. We never beat them in, drum execution, we beat almost every Drumline in exposure to era, we were playing switch rudiments back then very few if any drumlines playing them. Also our hornline triple tongue, very few Common People course did that as well, our brass Ranger, was, Hy dreitzer, the best arranger at that time in the country considered by many to be the best ever. Our brass quartet in 1960, beat the st. Kevin's Emerald Knights by 10 points, at that time they held the national champion, horn quartet, a week after they won the championship, Floyd Bennett for that first time ever competing in quartet beat them by 10 points. Our very first year in competition we defeated many of the well-recognized drum and bugle Corps. Our very first ever want you moving competition we took first place, our second competition was that Garfield Invitational, I believe it came in second to last beating St Lucy's Cadets. In my opinion our support management at no experience in the activity, we did not practice, before a competition, or getting to competitions on-time last-minute stuff. That was our weak point, with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles, great instructors, but our support team at no experience in the activity whatsoever, they kind of treated us just like we're getting ready for parade. When I joined the sun rises in 1964, I realized all the competitions we may have one or came close to winning, but due to our lack of experience, in the activity cost us several competitions. Don't get me wrong that we support team with fantastic. As a member of the Long Island sunrises we practice hard we worked hard and we won many competitions, leading up to the first national championship in 1968 in New Orleans Louisiana. Today is May 18th 2023.
@@TopDrumCorps From what I know (which isn't much), he did place 6th in 1994 or so (people more well-versed: please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something!)
It doesn’t matter who you think is better it’s inspirational as a drummer to see all diffrent generations do snare drummers in the same room and they show how much drumming has changed from them to know with technology or anything
I don't play drums, but I'm so impressed by these talented people that keep these bands in rythym and beat. Without them, bands all over the world wouldn't be the same.
In every marching ensemble you are taught to never listen to the drumline because 1. They are too far away and sound takes time to travel 2. They play very complex stuff as you can see and it makes getting time from it difficult
Is no one going to talk about Brandon’s single chops?? Like holy crap... I really like how versatile his solo was too. The first guy was also incredible, his snare sounded different from snares today but I actually liked it idk what it is.
I believe if Poole would have been using a different/tight snare,it would have really made the difference for what he done.IMO the 3rd guy had the best which I was surprised with considering ScoJoh was there & I figured he would take the win.
Man! I remember us fanboying Casey so hard when we were doing DCI with Strängnäs Drum & Bugle Corps from Sweden. All rudimental drummers I know call that tip-butt roll "The Casey" haha
Daniel Lee I’ve always loved ScoJo and his career is the stuff of legend, but I have to agree that’s the first time I didn’t love something he played. It was still super chop-sy, but he just didn’t seem on his game. Nobody’s perfect, I guess. Hell, that guy forgets more licks in a day than I’ll ever learn. One thing I really liked, though, was the sound of those two Pearls. After nearly 30 years, that design still rocks out. I want to like the Natals, but they just don’t seem to cut like either the Pearl or Yamaha models.
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it definitely is physically legal (the fact you saw it makes it legal lol) and there are tutorials on how to do it, it's called Casey Claw (named after Mark Casey not Casey Brohard lol)
@@denesisdelcorockschool3074 They literally ALL sounded like complete trash compared to the insane drumming of today. My highschool could sound better than any snareline before 1990
Lol!! I think at least four of the drummers in this video would disagree with your statement. Do you think Scott Johnson would say "yeah,when I marched blue devils in 1977 we sounded like trash just like all the lines at the time. Haha. If you think a high school snare line could play the books of lancers,bd,Santa clara,spirit of atlanta,bridgeman,etc from back in the day you are smoking some good shit. Sons of liberty in the 60's! we're poss clean. FAct! The modern lines are amazing but don't discount the best lines from the 70's and 80's.Some of the best players on the planet Played in those lines. To this day Robbie Robinson could crush nearly any drummer alive today. Brandon,casey,brice, all gifted drummers but if think Rob Carson couldn't play their stuff is insane. He invented half the stuff they play! Sigh.wtf?
denesis delcorockschool I meant C L E A N. By the way, my high school has one of the top drum lines in the world, one of the best marimba players who played SCV for 3 years came from here. Either way, the stuff they played back then isn’t nearly as hard or as clean as modern DCI. It’s still more complex than modern high school music, but nowhere near as clean. What even are you credentials?
I like the old school feel of the first gentleman. It’s funny how this type of knowledge trickles down... Especially since he was using “System Blue ScoJos” with ScoJo right behind him. 3 seasons or so ago, the drum line captain, tenor and baseline captain for The Blue Devils came from my roots and the line I marched snare in some 15-20 years prior in high school! Really these types of players have such a huge impact on so many lives and can be traced back like a drummer lineage.
C O usually in marching band for snares they use Kevlar drum heads because they’re more durable and they’re louder. Also it for judges and audiences in stadiums it’s more clear to what the line is playing
Lol, Noah nice one. Unfortunately there's some truth there. But I think its mostly coincidence that they started sucking around the time of the drummers accident. I could name a dozen big time rock groups during the 70's- 80's that had kick ass albums during their first few years, then started sucking for various reasons. Rehashing songs. Forced by the record label contracts to cut "X" amount of records quickly. Some groups selling out to commercialism, etc, etc. Def Leppard is a perfect example, in my opinion. Their 1st two albums were fkng bad azz, On through the Night and High and Dry. Excellent songs front to back, raw, original, hi quality hard rock. Third album Pyromania of course was epic but I think they really fell off after that. Hard to explain to some people but real rockers know what im talking about. (And yes btw im a pro musician,can wail on the guitar, drums, bass, keys, vocals). Van Halen, same exact thing, (in my opinion). 1st four albums are insanely fkng awesome, then after Fair Warning, not so much, like an album here and there with one or two good cuts. But you can play VH's first album, (untitled), VH two, Women and Children First, and Fair Warning front to back without a shitty "filler" song. Same thing with Aerosmith, but their albums really started sucking after quitting drugs, (but good for them, they are still above ground). "Love in a Elevator"?? Are u fkng kidding me? If you like that song find a ball peen hammer and use it repeatedly on your dome. Rush, one of my favorite groups cranked out like 7 albums before getting the notice they deserved but Moving pictures, 1981, i think was their last really good effort. Of course the bands dont necessarily start sucking, they still usually perform and play awesome, but the new material often sucks large, hairy balls. So the point of my short essay is? LOL, "MOST" rock groups, (not all), begin sucking eventually, regardless of the amount of arms the drummer has. Oh, and I have some original songs, (rock, pop alternative), on Ourstage.com. Scott Mckee or sdmc222. (I multi track usually, with supporting DAW software and play all of the REAL instruments myself). ((Tho some of the drums and percussions I cheated on my motif synth)). They dont suck too bad...yet.
I'm a guitar player who loves metal music, which for some reason makes me really love the drums.( The drums are like a second guitar or an extension of the guitar in my opinion. May be flip flopped if I was a drummer. Lol :) but regardless i look towards who would be an awesome addition to a metal band and that's the last guy for sure or the third guy as my alternate pick.
The first gentleman told the best stories his solos were understandable and they were phrased well... IT SWUNG HARD like Jazz in my opinion....everyone else was amazing and theatrical....understood! But the first cat made the most sense to me of them all! Groovy....
Charles Poole, is a real rudimental drummer. The others really don't display that skill at all, they are more interested in visuals, juggling, by the English. Charles pool, by far the best rudimental drummer.
@@americanspirit8932 You may want to think that, but Charlie’s playing was not very clean and the other performances were far more impressive and showed much more dedication to the craft than some simple rudiments
@@americanspirit8932 Stick tricks and visuals does not mean they are not a "Real Rudimental Drummer." You can like the old style, but just because you like it more. Doesn't mean you have to bash modern players. As a matter of fact, Fred Sanford had his members perform visuals back in the 70's when he taught SCV. That style that Charles and everyone else from his time in DCI used is what built up modern Rudimental Drummer. Including visuals.
Who did Jeff Queen win with? Also, Casey Brohard has not lost one ounce of hands since 06. You can tell just by lookin at ScoJo that he's got some very, VERY fond memories of the 03-06 line
A lot of it seemed directionless and very over the top. The first guy was great. All his transitions were clean and everything segued perfectly together into the next rhythm
That's because he is a real rudimental drummer. Back when we had Real Drum and bugle Corp, we will all talk to play all the rudiments, plus all the standard drum solos use them for warmups. We didn't have to become clowns juggling, and playing on cardboard boxes. When you want to Championship with the real Drumline, you were truly a champion. Former member of the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York, and a former member of the Long Island sunrises.
One thing I know for sure, the older generation drummers are definitely proud and confident in the new generation of drummers. Can't really say much for everyone else though.
…you can’t get there in without years of practice. Scott is most inspiring veteran. Honestly others guys also blow me away. It’s gonna take a lot of work to get there….
I think jeff had the best hands but casey had the best solo. I marched with Scott and he made Billy Cobham drop his jaw and look back at us. then my son did 5 years with BD and teaches pit for B corps.
Im 70. Was in band in 60's. I just like the sound of a real snare drum . Not these new fangled tight sounding marching snares. They sound more like a table top. 1st drummer had real drum. Reminded me of civil war drumming 🎼🎸🎶
Yea but now everybody cares about sound clarity. You don’t get that clarity on old school drums. You can’t play quite as much as easily on those old drums either. They also don’t project as far either sound wise
Uhh pads are for practice not for performance. "All these new cats thinking they're hot shit because they play on pads instead of real drums." Just.. just shut the fuck up
so - the first drummer - his drum sounds amazing! WTF is with all of those countertop sounding drums? They sound horrible! Part of playing a drum is the tone. Great playing but man those super tight marching snares are awful. And I'm a fan of tight snares, trust me. Its just mind boggling that the sound preferred in modern marching is so narrow and lifeless ....
The first two performers weere playing on Mylar heads which is what most marching snare drums had before the 80s. Everyone else is using kevlar. I love the sound of mylar, its just super hard to utilize rebound on those heads.
what i think im doing on my practice pad at 3am
If I was playing a pad at 3 am my family would kill me
@@duston1649i use my knees as a practice pad when i dont have one on me
I forgot I had the video on 2x speed and I was like... DAYUMM..
Yo I tried that shit. I’m partially blind now from trying to keep up
I love Poole showing up with the Vintage Rogers snare! CLASSIC!
Rogers Dynasonic. From my era.
Much more challenging to play than the other snares as well. It doesn't just throw the stick back at you.
@@Carlo24515 been thinking about getting one or a ludwig just for building a foundation
Charlie Poole just sitting there with that look of "I've seen it all before boys", is the best bit of this video
When Casey Brohard was done, watch Poole's face. He was definitely impressed
😂I know right
yea lmao
the first guy's technique is amazing. you can't beat the old school finesse.
Yes!!!!!! I feel you on That one
Yeah I'm not always impressed with the stick twirling. I don't think a drummer has to be a juggler to be good at their craft
He is old school just based on the sound of his snare. It isn't cranked way up like a lot of marching snares are these days. A sound I remember, and like, from my own marching days, Purple Lancers, Auburn NY, 1967-1974.
The other thing is not as much an emphasis on speed. I could actually make out what rudiments he was playing most of the time. The other - not so much. Everything was a blur.
...at least his snare doesn't sound like constant farts.
first guy is Charlie Poole. Taught the 27th Lancers in the 70s and till 86 when they folded. Won many individual titles. Marched Boston Crusaders in the 60s
Woah... Casey’s still got it. I remember hearing that solo when I was young and it still holds up.
Casey brohard was my favorite. One because his piece was fantastic. Second because his last name is brohard.
Ryan Cox hello.
Lolol
Matthew Grover Casey Brohard is our high school marching band drum tech smh no wonder our drum line is so fire
Yeah, he has the best flow. The other guys work felt so choppy every Time they transition into a new section
He grooves on that snare like crazy
my man jeff prosperie look like the highschool quarterback who picked up percussion as a sad broken man
he looks like he coaches peewee football
@@jvogler_art4708 honestly he looks like a guy that plays snare drum on the weekends....
Why am I here? I don’t even play the drums. Yet here everyone is voting on the best drummer. Who are these people???
Well you got Brandon Olander who plays for the blue devils and has scoliosis.
Radiated [Line Rider] Which one is he?
@Bugay Den he is the very last one. He is very good too. He played in the blue devils drum line when he was only 12! ||| ruclips.net/video/H0_OkH30BXA/видео.html
@@off_brand_water9300 correction...he played "with" the blue devils at 12. It was a few years later before he actually made the corps.
Jaysen Gill | true true
The fact that Brandon Olander has become a household name in my house full of drummers is reflected in this video
firkinjackanapes his hands have seen better days
Yee Haw what...?
Wesley Mannino my bad I replyed to the wrong comment, I was talking about Scott Johnson
Yee Haw ah! Ok agreed haha Brandon’s were outstanding I was like “huh” 😂
I got to meet him, he techs at a school in arizona and he was at the same band comp as me
Look there are some talented drummers in the world but there's just something different about Brandon...
😂 you see the guy behind him, he look mad cause he know Brandon won lol
Because he was a prodigy at such a young age and was all over youtube. Rob Carson was the man back in the day but no one is even mentioning him.
You can see Scojo's look of approval for Casey. too bad we couldn't see his face during Brandon. (What a composition!)
I saw scojo's look through all those that played . They were all looking for one another to just make one little mistake just to say " I got ya" .
popeye sailor Heck yeah! I can see his playing has really improved even since his championship days
The performances are awesome , but the face impressions, smiles, laughs and little head movements from Scojo are the real gold. Joy for drumming.🚀
Charlie Poole is legend. Great to see him playing. I've seen Scojo have better days on the drum, but his enthusiasm while watching the other players really shows his genuine joy and enthusiasm for the craft. Prosprie's still got the chops, but the antics can go. Casey was freaking impeccable, as indicated by the fact that he's the only one who managed to bring a smile to Charlie's face. If you want to see Brandon at full-length look up the vid for 2019 DCI Snare Champion. TOTAL beast.
I’m pretty sure brandon played his 2015 solo in this video
Brandon had the best chops. Super clean and strong
I had no idea this was a thing (PASIC 2018). These folks have been doing this for a long time. Some longer than others. All of them are skilled in their craft.
I listen to all sorts of music. All the drummers, guitar players, keys, vocals, bassist, have their own techniques from their background and influences. It is so clear that the same goes for the marching snare. Everyone has their own unique sound. Love it
All were great. I liked Charlie Poole best. Nothing fancy, no stick tricks, just great drumming. Plus the drum had better volume. I think he is in my age group too.
If he’s your age group that’s automatically let’s me know that you have a bias
Charles Poole is about real rudimental drumming, has nothing to do with age. He's not into tricks, juggling and being a clown. In my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest activities between United States and Canada. Thousands of drum and bugle Corps have fell by the wayside. They turned the activity into a marching band competition superimposed on a three-ring circus.
@@americanspirit8932 well that’s an opinion. Personally I think dci and these new groups have helped modernize drumming and expand it. The tricks and the new snare builds and sound are apart of the newer era of drumming. If anything performing and mastering tricks while playing complex rhythms shows that you have skill and adds to the visual aspect of drumming.
@@americanspirit8932 are you mad that it also has a visual aspect as well? Drumming has not dwindled in musicality at all. Look at the recently lines and their music. Then look at the stick tricks they do. Barely any. You realize millions STILL watch drum corps right? Just because you throw a fit over the sport evolving and you not doesn't mean others aren't following along. I can't with these blind old heads
@@americanspirit8932 honestly I think its MORE musical now! A bunch of Charlie's solo was the same tempo, a bunch of 16ths with crazy stickings and rudiments. Dude new lines are insane. Like Blue coats this season, they had a seventhlet in 6, you know how hard that is? And how nice it sounds? Then SCV's writing is just beautiful. They are constantly adding new times as well as new sounds. I've seen 5:3, 7:6, 8:9, Fivelets fit into the spacings of triplet putaduhs. Brandon's solo constantly flexed in musicality, constantly bringing it up in dynamics and down. Bumping up the tempo and slowing it down. Effortlessly pulling off some rudiments and stickings that Charlie had and even better! Drum corps is evolving, stop being blind and appreciate the evolution of music
Scojo is the kind of person to remind the teacher that theres homework
Poole is way more of my style but also this just proves that I am still not very good at snare after 23 years. My students think I have godlike rudimental ability but that’s just them not realizing what is possible.
If you want to see a true rudimental Jihadi, look up Rick Beckham
@@xXEvangelXx And Rick was taught by Charlie Poole (the first guy)
@@nsmith996 Beckham is an animal on snare - love to watch him throw it down!
Yeah,Beckham is a beast but he marched 1981 27th lancers and apparently they were trash according to some folks here. Sarcasm btw. Lol. Beckham is old skool but he can play literally anything.
Doesn’t mean your not good there are levels to everything and if you wanna be there then you got to work at it
I think casey brohard had the best hands. Thats just my opinion
It's pretty awesome to see how the styles changed through the decades. All those excerpts are so very reminiscent of the decade they came from.
I loved how at certain moments you can see them be like I gotta try that when I get home.
2:54 dude was going full death metal blast beat/double kick attack for a moment.
I like how Three of these magnificent players all were blue devils snare
First and last were my fav. For me drums and percussion are about rhythm. I want to feel the beat, and they both had a theme of musicality that brought them above. They were all amazing, way better than I could hope to be without a whole ton of passion and commitment. At this high level, kinda everyone has the techniques down, I believe it becomes personal preference that starts to really set people apart.
Interesting, first time I've ever seen Charlie Poole play but he's judge lines I marched several times lol
Love the performance by Charlie Poole.
Everything is so old school and simple. No flashy visuals, leading into every other measure with a 5/7 stroke, that good stroke everything thing out technique, rudiments played great. Love it.
I'm a student of Marty Hurley so my influences may be talking but I enjoyed it.
I believe Marty Hurley, was a member of the budget Sacrament golden knights, who Bobby Thompson taught for many years, the Golden Nights at one of the best drum lines ever any activity. I was fortunate enough to compete against the Blessed Sacrament golden knights when I was a snare drama with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York. We never beat them in, drum execution, we beat almost every Drumline in exposure to era, we were playing switch rudiments back then very few if any drumlines playing them. Also our hornline triple tongue, very few Common People course did that as well, our brass Ranger, was, Hy dreitzer, the best arranger at that time in the country considered by many to be the best ever. Our brass quartet in 1960, beat the st. Kevin's Emerald Knights by 10 points, at that time they held the national champion, horn quartet, a week after they won the championship, Floyd Bennett for that first time ever competing in quartet beat them by 10 points. Our very first year in competition we defeated many of the well-recognized drum and bugle Corps. Our very first ever want you moving competition we took first place, our second competition was that Garfield Invitational, I believe it came in second to last beating St Lucy's Cadets. In my opinion our support management at no experience in the activity, we did not practice, before a competition, or getting to competitions on-time last-minute stuff. That was our weak point, with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles, great instructors, but our support team at no experience in the activity whatsoever, they kind of treated us just like we're getting ready for parade. When I joined the sun rises in 1964, I realized all the competitions we may have one or came close to winning, but due to our lack of experience, in the activity cost us several competitions. Don't get me wrong that we support team with fantastic. As a member of the Long Island sunrises we practice hard we worked hard and we won many competitions, leading up to the first national championship in 1968 in New Orleans Louisiana. Today is May 18th 2023.
Dude.....Casey Bros Hard. Seriously though...machine gun accuracy.
@@jemberbizuneh7998 yeah
@therainman777 srry bro I didn't think of it as boasting but as info about how almost anyone can try to practice this kinda stuff...honestly my bad
I couldn't tell - they were all amazing in there own right.
Me: *waiting for roger carter to appear*
Roger carter: *doesnt appear*
Did he ever win I&E?
@@TopDrumCorps From what I know (which isn't much), he did place 6th in 1994 or so (people more well-versed: please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something!)
Think this was a champion only invite.
It doesn’t matter who you think is better it’s inspirational as a drummer to see all diffrent generations do snare drummers in the same room and they show how much drumming has changed from them to know with technology or anything
I don't play drums, but I'm so impressed by these talented people that keep these bands in rythym and beat. Without them, bands all over the world wouldn't be the same.
In every marching ensemble you are taught to never listen to the drumline because
1. They are too far away and sound takes time to travel
2. They play very complex stuff as you can see and it makes getting time from it difficult
Charlie Poole had a great performance. It was also neat and fascinating to watch him as he watched all the other drummers.
Imagine being the son or daughter sleeping and dads playing the sick drumroll to wake you up from your slumber.
Is no one going to talk about Brandon’s single chops?? Like holy crap... I really like how versatile his solo was too. The first guy was also incredible, his snare sounded different from snares today but I actually liked it idk what it is.
It’s a lower tension snare with Mylar. I love the sound
His paradiddles too 8:07
I believe if Poole would have been using a different/tight snare,it would have really made the difference for what he done.IMO the 3rd guy had the best which I was surprised with considering ScoJoh was there & I figured he would take the win.
Man! I remember us fanboying Casey so hard when we were doing DCI with Strängnäs Drum & Bugle Corps from Sweden.
All rudimental drummers I know call that tip-butt roll "The Casey" haha
Scojo plays like a middle schooler who just learned a stick trick. First time i didnt like his playing.
Daniel Lee lmao a middle schooler couldn’t play what he played in a million years😂
These reason why he didn't like it cause it's not the style he plays but it was the style he played back then. Rip
Daniel Lee I’ve always loved ScoJo and his career is the stuff of legend, but I have to agree that’s the first time I didn’t love something he played. It was still super chop-sy, but he just didn’t seem on his game. Nobody’s perfect, I guess. Hell, that guy forgets more licks in a day than I’ll ever learn.
One thing I really liked, though, was the sound of those two Pearls. After nearly 30 years, that design still rocks out. I want to like the Natals, but they just don’t seem to cut like either the Pearl or Yamaha models.
Y’all realize each solo is what they played for I and e back when they were in right?
Mike Davis eVeryBoDy mAKes MistAKes
Scott's look while Charlie is playing just says it all
Some fine playing!
Brandon was the best, and is the best. He IS the future and has the cleanest chops I've ever heard
Rumor has it the last guy is still playing to this day, he just keeps switching sticks
brandon olander is a legendary chopmaster that aged out this year as center snare for bd and i&e champion
Tf? This is horrible attempt to be funny.
How Gabriel
Jdizzwhompers. Your comment, now that’s funny. Thanks for the laugh
@@GabeT04 what
Just watching Scott Johnson and Charlie Poole’s faces is great
truly the greatest pla- percussionists
6:22 bruh is that even physically legal
Project Overturn aka RareBeeph la verdad q sería un sueño aprender esas técnicas aquí en mi provincia no existe profesores q sean especializados en el tambor Gracias a Dios existen este medio para poder aprender si alguien me podría ayudar cuales son los primeros pasos q le enseñan allí se lo agradecería aquí les dejo un solo mío espero q le guste ruclips.net/video/lSSk18AaiTY/видео.html
it definitely is physically legal (the fact you saw it makes it legal lol) and there are tutorials on how to do it, it's called Casey Claw (named after Mark Casey not Casey Brohard lol)
Leon Chen r/woosh
@@pblount340 kinda, but kinda not as well. schrödinger's woooosh.
No. Absolutely illegal in all 50 states and Canada. It is not bound by logic or physics.
I liked the first guy, Charlie Poole, because it sounded like he was playing a snare drum, not trying to drill through concrete...
SAHBfan the modern marching snare
Yes. Because every snare line back in the day playing on Mylar sounded like crap. Please.
@@denesisdelcorockschool3074 They literally ALL sounded like complete trash compared to the insane drumming of today. My highschool could sound better than any snareline before 1990
Lol!! I think at least four of the drummers in this video would disagree with your statement. Do you think Scott Johnson would say "yeah,when I marched blue devils in 1977 we sounded like trash just like all the lines at the time. Haha. If you think a high school snare line could play the books of lancers,bd,Santa clara,spirit of atlanta,bridgeman,etc from back in the day you are smoking some good shit. Sons of liberty in the 60's! we're poss clean. FAct! The modern lines are amazing but don't discount the best lines from the 70's and 80's.Some of the best
players on the planet Played in those lines. To this day Robbie Robinson could crush nearly any drummer alive today. Brandon,casey,brice, all gifted drummers but if think Rob Carson couldn't play their stuff is insane. He invented half the stuff they play! Sigh.wtf?
denesis delcorockschool I meant C L E A N. By the way, my high school has one of the top drum lines in the world, one of the best marimba players who played SCV for 3 years came from here. Either way, the stuff they played back then isn’t nearly as hard or as clean as modern DCI. It’s still more complex than modern high school music, but nowhere near as clean. What even are you credentials?
7:13 *when there's a mosquito flying around you..*
Brandon Olander, the pupil became the master 🔥🔥
Lets go Brandon oleander i&e 2015!!
Yes!!
I like the old school feel of the first gentleman. It’s funny how this type of knowledge trickles down... Especially since he was using “System Blue ScoJos” with ScoJo right behind him. 3 seasons or so ago, the drum line captain, tenor and baseline captain for The Blue Devils came from my roots and the line I marched snare in some 15-20 years prior in high school! Really these types of players have such a huge impact on so many lives and can be traced back like a drummer lineage.
Nice to hear a snare drum that doesn't sound like a granite countertop ( the first guy anyways)
DeckerCreek do you know what type Brandon was playing ? Yamaha ?
CHRIS ROACH Scojo and Brandon were both using System Blue Snares.
C O usually in marching band for snares they use Kevlar drum heads because they’re more durable and they’re louder. Also it for judges and audiences in stadiums it’s more clear to what the line is playing
I TOTALLY AGREE. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS HE SOUNDED SO AMAZING
PLUS HIS TECHNIQUE IS EXCELLENT.
Charles Campbell agree, if you had a ringing snare sound it will be harder to hear chops and fasting playing, it just won’t be clear.
Casey Brohard bringing back the 2005 DCI world championship performance, absolute LEGEND! 🥁
Outstanding!!!!
Scott Johnson and Brandon Olander the best!!!! Awesome💓💓💘💘 love u!!
ScoJo is my favorite marching drummer ever. But did it seem like this wasn't his best performance to anyone else?
Yep. He was the sloppiest out of the bunch .
i think his left stick went to far up and that made him mess up, you can see he fixes it when he starts doing the stick clicks
I found these performances rudimentary.....
bm phil Great Scott Watson! We have a Master percussionist in our midst.
@@thatfishingguy11b r/whooosh
i would be lying if i said i watched more drumming than scojo’s facial expressions
What has 9 arms and sucks?
Def Leppard. (it's a joke.)
They don't suck.
😂😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👊✊💪
You little sissy boy you cryin how bout a waaa burger and some French cries def leppard sucks
Lol, Noah nice one. Unfortunately there's some truth there. But I think its mostly coincidence that they started sucking around the time of the drummers accident. I could name a dozen big time rock groups during the 70's- 80's that had kick ass albums during their first few years, then started sucking for various reasons. Rehashing songs. Forced by the record label contracts to cut "X" amount of records quickly. Some groups selling out to commercialism, etc, etc. Def Leppard is a perfect example, in my opinion. Their 1st two albums were fkng bad azz, On through the Night and High and Dry. Excellent songs front to back, raw, original, hi quality hard rock. Third album Pyromania of course was epic but I think they really fell off after that. Hard to explain to some people but real rockers know what im talking about. (And yes btw im a pro musician,can wail on the guitar, drums, bass, keys, vocals). Van Halen, same exact thing, (in my opinion). 1st four albums are insanely fkng awesome, then after Fair Warning, not so much, like an album here and there with one or two good cuts. But you can play VH's first album, (untitled), VH two, Women and Children First, and Fair Warning front to back without a shitty "filler" song. Same thing with Aerosmith, but their albums really started sucking after quitting drugs, (but good for them, they are still above ground). "Love in a Elevator"?? Are u fkng kidding me? If you like that song find a ball peen hammer and use it repeatedly on your dome. Rush, one of my favorite groups cranked out like 7 albums before getting the notice they deserved but Moving pictures, 1981, i think was their last really good effort. Of course the bands dont necessarily start sucking, they still usually perform and play awesome, but the new material often sucks large, hairy balls.
So the point of my short essay is? LOL, "MOST" rock groups, (not all), begin sucking eventually, regardless of the amount of arms the drummer has. Oh, and I have some original songs, (rock, pop alternative), on Ourstage.com. Scott Mckee or sdmc222. (I multi track usually, with supporting DAW software and play all of the REAL instruments myself). ((Tho some of the drums and percussions I cheated on my motif synth)). They dont suck too bad...yet.
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Jeff is an animal! Lots of presence!
6:22 WHAT WAS THAT?!?!?!
Casey Claw!
Yeah that was insane 😲
EMCproductions
BRO THAT WENT HARD
@@elijahnelson9069 oh yeah yeah
Poole went old school with that deep throat marcher. AWESOME!
I vibe with Scott Johnson's style
Casey is just BUILT DIFFERENT
Bruh Casey looks winded fr. Like he don’t play much anymore and this is taking a lot out of him lol.
I'm a guitar player who loves metal music, which for some reason makes me really love the drums.( The drums are like a second guitar or an extension of the guitar in my opinion. May be flip flopped if I was a drummer. Lol :) but regardless i look towards who would be an awesome addition to a metal band and that's the last guy for sure or the third guy as my alternate pick.
The last one!! OMG!!
3:00
The first gentleman told the best stories his solos were understandable and they were phrased well... IT SWUNG HARD like Jazz in my opinion....everyone else was amazing and theatrical....understood! But the first cat made the most sense to me of them all! Groovy....
Charles Poole, is a real rudimental drummer. The others really don't display that skill at all, they are more interested in visuals, juggling, by the English. Charles pool, by far the best rudimental drummer.
@@americanspirit8932 You may want to think that, but Charlie’s playing was not very clean and the other performances were far more impressive and showed much more dedication to the craft than some simple rudiments
@@eboone Completely WRONG.
@@americanspirit8932 Stick tricks and visuals does not mean they are not a "Real Rudimental Drummer." You can like the old style, but just because you like it more. Doesn't mean you have to bash modern players. As a matter of fact, Fred Sanford had his members perform visuals back in the 70's when he taught SCV. That style that Charles and everyone else from his time in DCI used is what built up modern Rudimental Drummer. Including visuals.
And his drum sounded like a musical instrument
Never realized how much Jeff Prosperie looks like Gary Owen l0l
I might be wrong but Jeff Queen was under Scott Johnson in SCV. So basically, Jeff, Casey and Brandon were Scott's students.
Now I wanna see Chris Drummer, Matt Penland, Tim Jackson, Nick Werth, Sean Vega, Colin McNutt, and Bill Bachman all in the same place.
A M E R I C A !
That first guy had incredible fundamentals and accent control. The second guy was nothing but stick tricks. Wasn’t impressed with that at all.
The amount of people with very little knowledge is mindblowing
Who did Jeff Queen win with? Also, Casey Brohard has not lost one ounce of hands since 06. You can tell just by lookin at ScoJo that he's got some very, VERY fond memories of the 03-06 line
I liked the last guy. He had a good sound, played clean, and there was a subtlety about his playing.
thats the dude from the video of the 12 year old kid playing with the Blue Devils
bro that’s brandon olander... you know, the best snare drummer in the world? center snare for the Blue Devils for like 3 years?
@@fl4sh762 Why are all your sentences questions?
Casey Brohard killed it.
Edit: Just saw Brandon's. My god. Loved all of them though!
CC- (music). Then (music) (applause).
Brandon Olander will go down In the books as the GOAT. He will replace scojo when retires
YES DEFINITELY
@@cristophermora7171 SO WHATS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER?!?!?!?!??!?!
@@glennsnare09 123-45-6789
You make no sense.
@@robmiller817 how so
The way scojo tuned his drum sounds so bad !
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Scott Johnson looked like a proud dad during Casey Brohard’s performance
6:30 - SCOJO knows that beat!
A lot of it seemed directionless and very over the top. The first guy was great. All his transitions were clean and everything segued perfectly together into the next rhythm
That's because he is a real rudimental drummer. Back when we had Real Drum and bugle Corp, we will all talk to play all the rudiments, plus all the standard drum solos use them for warmups. We didn't have to become clowns juggling, and playing on cardboard boxes. When you want to Championship with the real Drumline, you were truly a champion. Former member of the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York, and a former member of the Long Island sunrises.
Everyone deserved to be here. All the dad's and that one kid were great
7:20 I didn't know Tray Young played drums!
Glad I wasn´t the only one noticing!
K holy shit Casey and Brandon knocked it out of the park. I quite liked ScoJo and Charlie Pool, the only one I really didn't get was Prosperie's solo
Mfw I see scojo letting the pinky fly
Have I been taught wrong?
One thing I know for sure, the older generation drummers are definitely proud and confident in the new generation of drummers. Can't really say much for everyone else though.
…you can’t get there in without years of practice. Scott is most inspiring veteran. Honestly others guys also blow me away. It’s gonna take a lot of work to get there….
I think jeff had the best hands but casey had the best solo. I marched with Scott and he made Billy Cobham drop his jaw and look back at us. then my son did 5 years with BD and teaches pit for B corps.
I like that the first time Charlie Poole looked amused was with Casey brohard he was also only amused with Casey brohard and brandon
Jeff Prosperie intense af
7:45. Might be the best one
I think from a rythmic and sound quality consistency standpoint, Brandon O is absolutely out of this world.
4:26 Howie Long plays drums..? I was unaware. 🤔
First guy is real drummer...he is the best
They all are real drummers
@@TopDrumCorps they are so stylist....
@@venpuiapachuau7639 So?
Im 70. Was in band in 60's. I just like the sound of a real snare drum . Not these new fangled tight sounding marching snares. They sound more like a table top. 1st drummer had real drum. Reminded me of civil war drumming 🎼🎸🎶
Yea but now everybody cares about sound clarity. You don’t get that clarity on old school drums. You can’t play quite as much as easily on those old drums either. They also don’t project as far either sound wise
Scott Johnson was my favorite
Charlie Poole is the Master..snare drum playing as supposed to be..very to the point and also plays a snare drum,,not a pad..he's out from the past..
Uhh pads are for practice not for performance.
"All these new cats thinking they're hot shit because they play on pads instead of real drums."
Just.. just shut the fuck up
I believe he was the drum instructor for the 27th Lance's
so - the first drummer - his drum sounds amazing! WTF is with all of those countertop sounding drums? They sound horrible! Part of playing a drum is the tone. Great playing but man those super tight marching snares are awful. And I'm a fan of tight snares, trust me. Its just mind boggling that the sound preferred in modern marching is so narrow and lifeless ....
The first two performers weere playing on Mylar heads which is what most marching snare drums had before the 80s. Everyone else is using kevlar. I love the sound of mylar, its just super hard to utilize rebound on those heads.
Keelan Tobia wasn’t invited 🤔? What’s up with that?
He didn’t win multiple years
Yee Haw so I guess winning I&E on snare 2011 and 2012 handily don’t count as multiple years?🤔
03:53 HE STUNTIN ON THESE FOOLS
Wow, they're good at drumming.