Game Theory: The Unsolved Lore of The Sims (Bella Goth Mystery)

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    Can you believe I've never covered the Sims? Once I realized it, I knew I had to remedy that IMMEDIATELY! And what better way than to dive into the weird and wondrous LORE of the Sims universe? There is a surprising amount of lore to sift through, so today we are focusing on one of the biggest ongoing mysteries. The mystery of Bella Goth. Who is she? You are about to find out more than you could ever imagine.
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Комментарии • 9 тыс.

  • @OverflowingWithIdeas
    @OverflowingWithIdeas Год назад +31571

    FINALLY, THE SIMS THEORY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THANK YOU MATPAT!

  • @1NT3RN3TBARF
    @1NT3RN3TBARF Год назад +11009

    For someone that doesn’t play the sims
    This is probably the equivalent to watching a murder mystery

  • @yourbestpallshawn4139
    @yourbestpallshawn4139 Год назад +10889

    “Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” I’m actually dying.

  • @wildflowerwingz4398
    @wildflowerwingz4398 Год назад +5297

    This just make me realize how much sims 4 is missing. The og sims had so much going on that you’d never get bored.

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Год назад +76

      bella is in sims 4, i was playing yesterday and the first person i saw was her

    • @blew2077
      @blew2077 Год назад +204

      @@coastlinexclothes yes but it doesn’t add to the lore

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Год назад +41

      @@blew2077 yeah ik, i just never knew that she disappeared

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Год назад +76

      because it's a different timeline.

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Год назад +8

      @@blew2077 Umm it actually does Strange Town

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie Год назад +1849

    the calientes are truly evil, but mortimer goth really was a fool to fall for the caliente's shenanigans

    • @kurukavatar5089
      @kurukavatar5089 Год назад +87

      I always knew my brother was in the right for blowing them up with a grill

    • @alondraarrizon5472
      @alondraarrizon5472 Год назад +38

      Literally. Like how does your wife disappear without a trace and you end up falling like an idiot for two other ladies

    • @laco403
      @laco403 10 месяцев назад +28

      They can send Sims into the past. It only stands to reason that they also have the means to manipulate Sims to be romantically interested in them.

    • @KeitieKalopsia
      @KeitieKalopsia 9 месяцев назад +13

      I wouldn't be surprised if they used some shady tactics to make him fall for Dina. It doesn't sound like they ever play fair.

    • @laurenfaulk4637
      @laurenfaulk4637 Месяц назад +2

      To be fair it’s been a whole life stage since her disappearance, he’s an elderly, depressed, broken soul.

  • @KemFi
    @KemFi Год назад +7383

    "Whenever there's a backstory, there is LOOOOOOOOOORE!",said MatPat calmly.

    • @user-to8hw5vg8x
      @user-to8hw5vg8x Год назад +16

      @icecream !! weeewoooweeewooo

    • @SoggyCoffeeAddict
      @SoggyCoffeeAddict Год назад +19

      "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire harry?!?!?!?!!??!??!!!!!" Dumbledore said calmly

    • @jan.akisa.
      @jan.akisa. Год назад +4

      why is every bot on this comment

    • @_Gingi_Berri
      @_Gingi_Berri Год назад +9

      I love these bots claiming to lead to videos about getting rid of bots

    • @Hat.
      @Hat. Год назад

      The matpat movies vs the books

  • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
    @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Год назад +23345

    If Matpat dived really deep in Sims lore he would have an abundance of content, especially from the older titles

    • @Yayiden
      @Yayiden Год назад +705

      I really thought he was going to talk about strangerville tho. It might not be related to Bella Goth story but its still really intresting and might give us a lot of ideas for all of the paranormal stuff going on in this city

    • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
      @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Год назад +387

      @@Yayiden Not just Strangerville, there's Olivia Specter, the Landgrabbs, etc.

    • @booleah6357
      @booleah6357 Год назад +185

      Sims 3 when you could cook and eat babies

    • @zeroknight1311
      @zeroknight1311 Год назад +163

      We might end up having a complete series of videos that could Rival the number of Minecraft theories. I'm not saying the Fnaf Theories because....that number can't be surpassed by any other series. Especially with how Fnaf theories seem to just appear on this channel.

    • @M0rbidCuriositea
      @M0rbidCuriositea Год назад +120

      Plumbella has an amazing series on the history of specific sims. I think she has several about Bella.

  • @akarimonet
    @akarimonet Год назад +753

    I wish sims would make a scenario around finding out why and how she disappeared, I would do partake in that

  • @tomsparrow1823
    @tomsparrow1823 Год назад +817

    Therapist: SimPat isn't real, he can't hurt you
    SimPat: 👁👁🤔

    • @Nhaptenkenh
      @Nhaptenkenh Год назад +8

      Sul sul

    • @discoverysmith1111
      @discoverysmith1111 9 месяцев назад +7

      wohutu tukiwatu'si dohusitu wa tukiweboruya, wa bawamowe tukiweboruya! tukiwanilasi naboru fewatulikijiniba. (But thats just a theory, a game theory! Thanks for watching.)

  • @CambieEverdeen
    @CambieEverdeen Год назад +7469

    That also makes sense why Bella’s whole family is together in the Sims 4, the alternate timeline. The timeline where her warnings from the past had worked

    • @BunnyDoesArtThings
      @BunnyDoesArtThings Год назад +346

      Technically it isnt either, players just say that. Because reality the sims just never continued the lore because by sims 4 they were money hungry, ddint care about it

    • @unknown60963
      @unknown60963 Год назад +133

      Cambie, Bella escaped, she is in the Sims 4 because her warnings worked, it isn't a alternate timeline, it's just bella being smart.

    • @tgamer1510
      @tgamer1510 Год назад +30

      @@BunnyDoesArtThings This just isn't true. grow up

    • @astronomy7823
      @astronomy7823 Год назад +113

      @@unknown60963 No it's because Sims 4 has little to no significant lore because EA got indeed too money hungry. If she really escaped you would've had any sort of hint about it, such as Nina/Dina being locked up or some lore regarding the past. Go read Caliente's biography in Sims 4, if you still think it isn't an "alternate timeline" aka just EA being lazy then you must be high.

    • @redrosey6768
      @redrosey6768 Год назад +6

      That what I think to glad someone make this comment

  • @AussieCassPlays
    @AussieCassPlays Год назад +2502

    The Caliente family name literally has the word alien in it. The Sims team were never subtle. But the Sims 4 isn’t part of the same lore universe as the rest of the franchise - Bella was never abducted in that game.

    • @mineamuumaa6849
      @mineamuumaa6849 Год назад +206

      Maybe Bella was able to change the future of her the Sims 3 kid-self by writing those books. And that's why she's still there in the Sims 4?

    • @jjbarajas5341
      @jjbarajas5341 Год назад +260

      I mean.. Caliente just means "Hot" in Spanish. If the devs were alluding to aliens on purpose, that was a clever bilingual joke.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Год назад +102

      @@jjbarajas5341 theres a lot of jokes like that in the game, it was definitely on purpose

    • @AussieCassPlays
      @AussieCassPlays Год назад +17

      @@jjbarajas5341 I’m positive that was the case. 🙂

    • @Anti-HyperLink
      @Anti-HyperLink Год назад +28

      I've never even thought of that. How is that not subtle?

  • @Katie-ws8ph
    @Katie-ws8ph Год назад +116

    “She enjoyed many passtimes, from golf to minigolf”

  • @flonet5906
    @flonet5906 Год назад +206

    What I find very interesting is that when you play as the goth family, Cassanda has a negative memory of losing her mother. However, Mortimer has a positive memory of losing her. The sisters are aliens and Mortimer had a romantic relationship with the one of the Caliente sisters. So I think that Mortimer worked together with the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Год назад +47

      im pretty sure mortimer is a knowledge sim. they always have positive memories when they or a family member get abducted by aliens. while it's suspicious, i usually chalk it up to the way the game was programmed.

    • @flonet5906
      @flonet5906 Год назад +20

      @@deadeyeguys After going back and playing the sims 2 again, I think you might be right, although i still find it suspicious that Motimer has a romantic relationship with one of the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Год назад +11

      @@flonet5906 yeah i do agree w that, it's weird but it doesn't inherently mean he had anything to do with it, he's probably just a weirdo lmao. but in general tbh, as someone who knows a... bit too much about sims lore i don't agree with matpat's theory at all in general as well.

    • @KNUCKLES-vl5bv
      @KNUCKLES-vl5bv 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@deadeyeguys what's your theory?

    • @Lemony123
      @Lemony123 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@flonet5906 I wonder if Mortimer actually know about Cassandra ancestor, and that is why he actually had it.

  • @deku976
    @deku976 Год назад +2681

    "Those who knew her best would describe her as: Jowlenin, kooj, and even ravasheen" absolutely killed me

    • @FredrickVonFazbearon
      @FredrickVonFazbearon Год назад +5

      Wait a minute is that, a, JOJO REFERENCE

    • @CsGalaxyID
      @CsGalaxyID Год назад +54

      There is more bots in this comment than the population of Texas

    • @deku976
      @deku976 Год назад +6

      @@CsGalaxyID sadly yes

    • @flufflewarrior
      @flufflewarrior Год назад +2

      @@CsGalaxyID Right!?

    • @shreyasnathani7628
      @shreyasnathani7628 Год назад +1

      could someone explain the joke? I dont play sims.

  • @projekttaku1
    @projekttaku1 Год назад +2310

    Matpat! Another mystery in the Goth family is from the Sim 3. There’s a grave in the backyard named “Lolita Goth” who died of electrocution. The texture beside her grave is more brown dirt compared to Gunther’s parents who had dark green grass, implying that she was buried recently. In addition, if you look at any of the Goth family trees, there no Lolita in sight

    • @mexicafluentgamer473
      @mexicafluentgamer473 Год назад +85

      Could be a family pet

    • @AutisticKittyStar
      @AutisticKittyStar Год назад +87

      She died before electricity was a thing, her ghost can be found ...

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 Год назад +1

      @Based Beast 😈 Bruh, put up or shut up!

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Год назад +22

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Год назад +20

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

  • @CammieCakesz
    @CammieCakesz Год назад +123

    I literally almost choked on my food when he said “ Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” in such a serious voice 😂😂 I cannot. Great detective work! Your explanation makes wayyyy more sense and you definitely cracked the case WIDE open

  • @broadwaybrat1986
    @broadwaybrat1986 Год назад +94

    The fact that my sim tried to kiss Bella and she rejected her and all of a sudden Dina appeared out of nowhere and kissed my sim. They are married now and living a beautiful lesbian relationship. This is mind blowing right now…

  • @nyashiahughes3829
    @nyashiahughes3829 Год назад +1863

    This actually makes alot of sense considering the sims 4 was labeled as an alternate timeline all together.

    • @WorldWeave
      @WorldWeave Год назад +52

      Sims 4 is an alternate timeline?

    • @benjaminphelps561
      @benjaminphelps561 Год назад +56

      You know, i was just gonna ask where sims 4 would fit but that makes a lot of sense

    • @holy8782
      @holy8782 Год назад +97

      @@WorldWeave Yep, the Sims 4 is in a completely different timeline. Hence why Bella isn't missing in it.

    • @kayquinn9439
      @kayquinn9439 Год назад +33

      Oh ok so the new timeline bella made

    • @brandongreenland9632
      @brandongreenland9632 Год назад +43

      Beat me to it- I was originally going to comment this?
      Come to think of it, Bella's death really wasn't in vain, seeing how in the Sims 4, an "Alternate universe" to the older timeline, has its Bella alive and well, even if the Goth family overall are at different ages. If everything is correct, then that means the sisters WERE in fact thwarted by the preparations that Bella made in the past to affect the future, changing the timeline as a whole.

  • @alpha-noob7820
    @alpha-noob7820 Год назад +1350

    Bella was just taken to be a part of one of Graystillplays’s “experiments”, honestly a fate worse than death. But that’s just a game theory.

    • @TheGudeGamer
      @TheGudeGamer Год назад +13

      LMAO

    • @scarxnnivs
      @scarxnnivs Год назад +79

      Made even worse if you remember Gray hasn't played the Sims in like 3 years lmao.

    • @terezamatys4489
      @terezamatys4489 Год назад +40

      Too bad there haven't been new videos about it lately. I miss the torture.

    • @CyberBlastoise
      @CyberBlastoise Год назад +36

      Alright so we're playing the only game where you can abduct someone to ruin their marriage, it's The Sims

    • @_.z33._
      @_.z33._ Год назад +16

      im convinced this is actually what happened

  • @zanyzz2343
    @zanyzz2343 Год назад +23

    0:53 Let’s just appreciate that he said hello in Simlish.

  • @jennhernandz3912
    @jennhernandz3912 Год назад +113

    Well, there’s another key piece of information that you overlooked that’s very easily very early stated in this whole thing Bella was the last scene scaling that means climbing his balcony. Nobody finds that weird but me.

    • @alexking1075
      @alexking1075 Год назад +7

      She may have been climbing his balcony for personal reasons (affair) but she was abducted from said area before anything could happen

    • @vexywexypoo
      @vexywexypoo Год назад +26

      Knowing the sims, she might be been trying to kill him in his sleep or something.

    • @PhantomCheddar
      @PhantomCheddar Год назад +35

      this could mean that the abduction took place at his house. whoever saw it saw her floating up, and misremembered it as her climbing

    • @Mustafa_AhmedPGH
      @Mustafa_AhmedPGH Год назад

      @@PhantomCheddar Could be.

    • @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533
      @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533 Год назад

      He gave her a house tour 🤣

  • @djparty4941
    @djparty4941 Год назад +1754

    Killing the maids in the sims 3 when they’d flirt with your husband was so tense. I’m so glad he found this mystery. The caliente sisters and don lotharo are suspicious

    • @him6603
      @him6603 Год назад +12

      who said you had to kill them? 😐

    • @michaeld.jconnolly1281
      @michaeld.jconnolly1281 Год назад +6

      Alien Abduction was revealed when in?Sims 3 you explored the Alien home world there is Belle Goths Tombstone.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Год назад

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    • @willford55543
      @willford55543 Год назад +1

      @@michaeld.jconnolly1281 I mean in one of the neighborhoods in Sims 2 you can find Bella's alien body double there as well.

  • @adviththegreat5610
    @adviththegreat5610 6 месяцев назад +11

    I think there is something missing in the theory. Bella was last seen scaling the deck of Don's condo, but why? Was she lured there? That could be a possibility as he was dating both the sisters, they could have made him lure her to a to his condo and then sent her to past. Not only that, this would also explain why they sent Don to past, to erase any evidence. Anyways, as sims 4 was my first sims game, I used to think sims games don't really have much going in them but now after watching this I was surprised. Great video mat.

  • @celesteeeeee
    @celesteeeeee Год назад +53

    Is it just me or does that Goth family remind you of the Adams family 😂

    • @doc-savage
      @doc-savage Год назад +11

      Isn't that the exact reference that they're based on? 🤣🤣

  • @chriscomer1798
    @chriscomer1798 Год назад +930

    The "she disappeared without even a dagdag" REALLY got me lol

    • @NurseKortney
      @NurseKortney Год назад +10

      Lmao me too! I started laughing hard

    • @meggnogg
      @meggnogg Год назад +11

      Same here, not even a casual lil nose laugh but a full on belly laugh lol

    • @MarieMaia445
      @MarieMaia445 Год назад +8

      Caught me off guard too.😂😂😂 I've never surprised laugh before.

  • @sm0rie
    @sm0rie Год назад +3719

    I'm surprised we haven't discussed this yet on this channel. The amount of mysterious lore is just itching to be unveiled

    • @shmook28
      @shmook28 Год назад +28

      Agreed! Especially in the item descriptions these games are dripping with seeeecreeeets

    • @ilikedairy8539
      @ilikedairy8539 Год назад +12

      @@shmook28 yeah I think there is a story talking about a princess and pirate love story in some of the descriptions of the items in the sims 4!

    • @Deeviiouss
      @Deeviiouss Год назад

      Fr

  • @raistlinsmith4181
    @raistlinsmith4181 Год назад +33

    Does that mean I broke the cycle when I stole Bella from her husband changed her name and hair and killed a rich guy to live in his house and forced her to never speak to her family again? Wow I’m a hero and I didn’t even know it

  • @DessertDoggie
    @DessertDoggie Год назад +22

    There's only so hyped you can get about city planning" my thoughts immediately went to Annabeth Chase.

  • @maiqisdonetalking1832
    @maiqisdonetalking1832 Год назад +4135

    "Bella disappeared without even a dag dag" made my day.

  • @Mysteriofreeflying
    @Mysteriofreeflying Год назад +1817

    “If a pair of attractive twins shows interest in you be aware it could be aliens”
    Thanks Matpat! I’d keep that in mind.

  • @dominicstevenson8816
    @dominicstevenson8816 Год назад +25

    Sims online and sims medieval sound like my kind of game, and I just leaned about them now.

    • @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533
      @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533 Год назад +2

      Sims online is no more second life took their playershare with better economy or ecosystem

  • @Dfayethegay9
    @Dfayethegay9 Год назад +39

    Sometimes
    I wonder what goes on in his head, I never thought the sims could be theorized

  • @xavierparis2789
    @xavierparis2789 Год назад +1104

    I desperately want to see more Sims theories in the future. The entire “canon” has this mysterious air to it, and since it’s supposed to be a sandbox you only ever get just enough to make you wonder, so it’s always super intriguing. Creeped me out as a kid. If I recall, the Sims 2 has an entire plot when played on PSP, I wonder if that ties into anything.

    • @lulaellie
      @lulaellie Год назад +39

      Yeah, you can spot Bella who tells you she's running away from aliens even :)

    • @SkycometFallen
      @SkycometFallen Год назад +31

      Look into Olive Specter. She’s a serial killer who buried her victims in the backyard. She even has a chair to gloat from. (The sims 2)

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 Год назад +11

      The sims 2 also has lore on sims 2 ds, such as the mayor of strangetown (Honest) being murdered by a mafia man (Frankie). Iirc didn't the sims 2 psp also happen in strangetown? I remember nervous subject being dead in that game

    • @TheElephantChumpkin
      @TheElephantChumpkin Год назад +3

      Ps2 sims2 had storyline as well.

    • @duskdawn1974
      @duskdawn1974 Год назад

      Sims 2 psp had ghosts, monsters, zombies aliens, a cow cult, a robot wife, a mad scientist, bella, and a couple of other weirdos. It's so interesting maaan.

  • @justsam4321
    @justsam4321 Год назад +976

    FINALLY. We did it simmers. We reeled in Matpat into the lore of the sims
    And this is only a taste of what the main Sims games have to offer

    • @mystykmarigold
      @mystykmarigold Год назад +4

      1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 ,7 bots noticed, 3 of which are the same bot with the same message

  • @princeneko9103
    @princeneko9103 11 месяцев назад +8

    I'm surprised it took Game Theory this long to talk about probably one of the biggest misteries in video game history but alas, I am very happy it's finally here

  • @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787
    @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787 Год назад +12

    This theory was great. And I might be biased as a huge Vinesauce fan buuut, if sims theory’s are now on the table you should look into Johnny Zest.

  • @vi0letrei
    @vi0letrei Год назад +842

    I used to spend hours just reading all the descriptions of everything in the sims, the writers are top tier

  • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
    @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Год назад +1152

    I certainly wasn’t ever expecting in the 7+ years I’ve been watching the theory channels for Mat to make a theory about the SIMS, but here we are

    • @blitzie66
      @blitzie66 Год назад +6

      i was so excited to see this- been playing these games since i was a child and love the lore of them

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 Год назад +7

      Then you must've actually not been watching for 7+ years like you just lied about lmao. They've done theories for way wackier and more obscure games, of course they'd do one for this one. I am guessing they just didn't know there was a big theory inside this game until recently

    • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
      @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Год назад +7

      @@blyat8832 no what I’m saying is that I wasn’t expecting there to be any kind of lore in the SIMS. Granted, I don’t play the sims. That’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t exactly clear

    • @Human_traain
      @Human_traain Год назад +1

      Its fake

    • @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754
      @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754 Год назад

      @beyond your imagination Nice nuts

  • @mckamy4711
    @mckamy4711 Год назад +13

    now that we know the sims 5 is coming, it'll be interesting to see how they continue the goth family story

  • @ClementWilliamstheoneandonly
    @ClementWilliamstheoneandonly Год назад +5

    I loved the Sims as a kid, but I always kinda wished there was an option beyond sandbox play for more explicit story-driven events, etc! This is exactly the kinda background lore that I wish could have been pushed more to the forefront in a story mode of sorts!

  • @dazzlethestar151
    @dazzlethestar151 Год назад +1482

    I remember hearing about the disappearance of Bella Goth and always wondered what happened to her. Glad to see MatPat trying to solve this mystery!

  • @makaylaserniotti1474
    @makaylaserniotti1474 Год назад +716

    Wait until we tell him about how the occult sims in the sims 4 interact, werewolves especially have an absurd amount of lore

    • @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT
      @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT Год назад +18

      I love how they added werewolves, it’s a lot of my sorta style, especially when they’re anthropomorphic

    • @thunderbolt64_
      @thunderbolt64_ Год назад +1

      theres werewolves?

    • @xeoney
      @xeoney Год назад +4

      I wonder if he'll be able to come up with a theory, considering most of it is already told through artifacts or in the descriptions of furniture/paintings

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Год назад +1

      Or our dear leader

  • @Heather_no_numbers
    @Heather_no_numbers Год назад +12

    Whoa, that is pretty amazing. And kind of creepy. Man, I wish i could play the Sims again. It was so fun just building houses and neighborhoods. I think i built more than the Sims themselves.

  • @lulumo9229
    @lulumo9229 10 месяцев назад +5

    We need more sims theories. There's so many mysteries in the sims. Like Olive in sims 2 with the graveyard in her yard, her romance with the grim reaper and her son who was taken away and adopted by evil scientists.

  • @haileywheeler1397
    @haileywheeler1397 Год назад +801

    The amount of lore we have within the sims games is crazily abundant. If matpat did a deep dive he would have soooo many videos on his hands. I am all for matpat getting into sims lore.

  • @anastasiaalex6177
    @anastasiaalex6177 Год назад +384

    “Bella disappeared without a dag dag” im dead 😂 he isn’t wrong

    • @BerryPower15
      @BerryPower15 Год назад

      obligatory rick roll link: ruclips.net/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/видео.html

    • @diversezebra6754
      @diversezebra6754 Год назад +2

      Not as dead as Bella.....

  • @Vall..TheEmo
    @Vall..TheEmo Год назад +3

    this hurt my brain- I had to rewatch it 3 times to understand lol, seriously though, how can you explain a 16 year mystery in under 20 minutes, keep it going!

  • @williamedwards4151
    @williamedwards4151 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the idea that Bella got the last laugh and her efforts in the past changed the timeline and resulted in Sims 4 where Bella and her family are fine and the Caliente sisters are still stuck with Don and no longer a threat.

  • @Snowangel231
    @Snowangel231 Год назад +2373

    You're gonna love Strangetown's backstories. I personally like Curious, Beaker and Specter household backstories. Specter family is creepy but also very sad one.

    • @raxxie
      @raxxie Год назад +74

      Sims 2 had the BEST lore to play with. I miss Strangetowne every day!

    • @huynguyen-yb4pf
      @huynguyen-yb4pf Год назад +1

      ok

    • @galicry
      @galicry Год назад +5

      honestly when i first saw this vid when it came out, i thought this was goimg to be about the ghost in the mansion u just... adopt? in sims 2

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Год назад +1

      ​@@raxxie oo

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Год назад +1

      ​@@raxxie oopoooqo

  • @HalluCat
    @HalluCat Год назад +1100

    Bella also appears in psp version of The Sims. She walks in the small store, disoriented and not remembering anything. But she gives away her house to you. The house with a ghost maid. There is also plot line story about aliens in that game.

    • @ToyotaTacomaOfficial
      @ToyotaTacomaOfficial Год назад +17

      Lol this is deep

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Год назад +55

      Finally I found this comment, the house is called Espiritu Estate in Paradise Place and Emily Emory is not a ghost maid, there are 2 ghost in music room and the masters bedroom

    • @HalluCat
      @HalluCat Год назад +27

      @@roronoazoroa3052 Emily Emory is the third ghost in Espiritu Estate, which is located in Strangetown in PSP version of The Sims 2. She died in 1923.

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Год назад +8

      @@HalluCat really? So thats why she says that "there are 3 ghosts in this house" and i thought it is Bella Goth and not emily

    • @galicry
      @galicry Год назад +15

      I RLY THOUGHT THIS VID WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THIS PLOTLINE WHEN I FIRST SAW IT SJDKDSND

  • @dandelions3
    @dandelions3 Год назад +6

    As someone who plays the sims 4, I have been blessed even though I am 3 months late

  • @ZinTyPhoon
    @ZinTyPhoon Год назад +1

    MatPat: Thinks The Sims has no lore
    Anyone who's ever played a single sims game ever: "Did you even TRY looking?"

  • @julia-so5jo
    @julia-so5jo Год назад +772

    As someone who had a phase where I was obsessed with Sims lore, my personal favorite explanation is the one Plumbella covers in her “Bella Goth Mystery Solved” video (not the exact title but if you search that you’ll find it). It ties everything together without having to make any leaps that are too far and explains other mysteries like the identities of Mathilde Goth and Lolita Goth (the first being a sim in the Sims 3 with seemingly no connection to the family but looking exactly like Bella, and the latter being a sim in the Goth’s graveyard not found on the family tree) and even why The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Год назад +6

      I assume this is the old video then. Does it has the same conclusion with Mattpat? If you mind spoiling me a bit

    • @trickskitauknow7744
      @trickskitauknow7744 Год назад +48

      I'd like to say that I also like quite Plumbella's video but also without context, from your comment alone, you saying that there are no leaps then following it up with "The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe" is really funny to me.

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Год назад +3

      @@trickskitauknow7744 yeah lol

    • @kaitlynlorentzen4375
      @kaitlynlorentzen4375 Год назад +14

      @@trickskitauknow7744 but the Sims 4 is an alternate universe. There is no correlation with the original lore anywhere in the fourth game. For example, Bella never disappeared, Don Lothario is a serial romantic but has no relationship with Cassandra which makes sense since she's a teen and he's a young adult. The Caliente sisters aren't even aliens and although there is still quite a lot of drama surrounding all these characters, there is no backstory suggesting that the abduction ever happened. So it's not a leap, I'm pretty sure it's canon or in reality extreme laziness on EAs part so that they didn't have to continue that storyline.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Год назад +3

      @@trickskitauknow7744 it's canon that the sims 4 is in an alternate universe but the theory tries to explain why that happened, it ties everything together and even makes the sims 4 make sense with the theory

  • @SuperTigger2012
    @SuperTigger2012 Год назад +656

    “Bella disappeared without even a dagdag”….welcome to the lore of sims. I’m sooooo here for it!!! 🤩🤩

    • @thaliacrafts407
      @thaliacrafts407 Год назад +20

      "Dag dag" means "bye bye" in Dutch and I was genuinely confused for a moment

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Год назад +16

      @@thaliacrafts407 oh wow, I never knew this! I figured simlish had a bunch of languages and gibberish thrown in together lol.

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 Год назад +4

      The simish caught me by surprise.

    • @ThatNoobKing
      @ThatNoobKing Год назад +7

      @@SuperTigger2012 oh no
      So simlish is just minion speak

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Год назад

      @@ThatNoobKing prettyyyyyyyy SIMilar lolol

  • @bayleebrack1852
    @bayleebrack1852 3 месяца назад +3

    Gonna miss this Matt hope your happier tho

  • @minimouette
    @minimouette 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude, the switch of tone from the intro to the sponsor part made me jump 😂

  • @bare_bear_hands
    @bare_bear_hands Год назад +999

    In TS4, Nina Caliente is almost always met on the first day you start a game.
    She's actively keeping tabs on everyone in town 🤔

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Год назад +50

      It depends on where you live. Because when I start a new game in San Myshuno it's just Penny who shows up.

    • @akarimonet
      @akarimonet Год назад +39

      @@MissSimone02 plot twist penny and Nina working together

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Год назад +23

      @@akarimonet 😂😂😂 imagine Penny posting it to her like 200k followers is hilarious.

    • @totallynotshort9170
      @totallynotshort9170 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@akarimonetoogg

    • @hstochla
      @hstochla 3 месяца назад +1

      The Sims 4 isn’t part of the timeline that the rest of the series is in

  • @kayaikinci9855
    @kayaikinci9855 Год назад +1870

    I've waited for 16 years for this explanation from the creators , you are really a life saver

    • @Hadalamehandle
      @Hadalamehandle Год назад +23

      “Where there is backstory there is MUSIC MANNNNNN”

    • @maxwellstefan8868
      @maxwellstefan8868 Год назад +26

      Plumbella on youtube covered this same theory also and she makes a lot of other videos about Sims lore if you're interested

    • @alissabeck5608
      @alissabeck5608 Год назад +4

      There's also a channel called The Sims Lore that dives into the lore of all of the different sim families

    • @kayaikinci9855
      @kayaikinci9855 Год назад

      @@alissabeck5608 yes, I love that channel just recently discovered that and watched all her videos

  • @piotrwarrior557
    @piotrwarrior557 Год назад +7

    He needs to talk about Olive Specter in The Sims 2 and all the tombstones behind her house. (Fun fact: from her name you can make the sentence "i lOve Specter")

  • @galix_c
    @galix_c Год назад +2

    There’s SO MUCH sims lore to explore! I’d love more GT episodes please

  • @Galaxydragonpie
    @Galaxydragonpie Год назад +687

    It would be interesting to see matpat cover the vampire and werewolf lore. Or even digging into spellcasters. Or about some of the hidden Sims like the hermit that lives in the hidden valley and why they're there.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Год назад +32

      How about Jim Pickens

    • @eurovianmutt
      @eurovianmutt Год назад +8

      Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing lore

    • @Darke_Exelbirth
      @Darke_Exelbirth Год назад +5

      @@MajorBaker-vz9go The lore of Pickens is a convoluted web, a mystery wrapped in a conundrum, basted in intrigue.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Год назад +2

      @@Darke_Exelbirth which makes it perfect for theories.

    • @dylanhodgson7605
      @dylanhodgson7605 Год назад

      @@Darke_Exelbirth Matpat will end up in the painting basement

  • @jewelhenson3034
    @jewelhenson3034 Год назад +874

    Y'know I played a Sims game on the PSP, it was from the 2 generation and the intro shows Bella running away and giving you the keys to her home. It's odd but she's terrified of the town she lives in and no longer wishes to be there. There's ghosts living in the house you receive, and lots of strange things happening. It's interesting to play to say the least.

    • @FriskyFive
      @FriskyFive Год назад +59

      I played this, I thought it was a fever dream to be honest, I was just about to ask for a theory on that😂

    • @makeupbybabybear5352
      @makeupbybabybear5352 Год назад +22

      I loved the sims 2 on psp

    • @CaityRaindrop
      @CaityRaindrop Год назад +45

      The psp version also reveals secrets and 2 of hers are basically that she never loved mortimer and married him for money

    • @athrowawayperson9990
      @athrowawayperson9990 Год назад +25

      Unfortunately we have confirmation that the spin-off games are non-canon, iirc.

    • @menolade
      @menolade Год назад +6

      I played that one too. It was really interesting especially the plotline with the robot wife and a cow cult

  • @Livi-chan435-xq6vy
    @Livi-chan435-xq6vy Месяц назад +1

    Matpat can find lore in anything at this point

    • @zzombiedogg
      @zzombiedogg Месяц назад +1

      well he didnt really find the lore here. sims townies have always had lore and backstories

  • @alexiasepia2740
    @alexiasepia2740 Год назад +1

    Matpat you have to dig deeper in sims lore! You'll find so much cool stuff, specially in the spin-offs!!

  • @nuzhatmaliat9258
    @nuzhatmaliat9258 Год назад +411

    maybe bella's books in ts3 is what led to her surviving in ts4, so ts4 isnt an alternate universe but an alternate timeline. she avoided the caliente traps via reading those books and getting the hint in childhood (ts3) , so instead of settling in pleasantview where the sisters would come, the couple settled in willow creek, and she convinced mort to take writer career instead of scientist (therefore he wont invent elixir of life and the sisters wont target him). That explains why her ts3 bedroom is so unusually emo/gothic, she knew too many dark stuff for her age (her future tragedy). Not to mention, she's in secret intelligence career in ts4, which now makes more sense bc she prolly needed connections and special info to pull this whole stunt between timeliness to save herself/avoid repercussions for already changing her fate/bust the calientes for their abduction attempts bc normal law enforcement wont believe her

    • @ellyhunter7252
      @ellyhunter7252 Год назад +5

      Yes!

    • @cpt.mystic_stirling
      @cpt.mystic_stirling Год назад +6

      The plot thickens

    • @alicemichaelis9468
      @alicemichaelis9468 Год назад +8

      O.M.G!!
      I haven’t played Sims including Sims 4 in 1.5 years but this video and your comment makes me at least wanna continue with Goth Family lol.

    • @idkbalvan6303
      @idkbalvan6303 Год назад +4

      but if the ts4 is an alternate timeline, how do you explain the existence of Katrina Caliente, their 'mom'? It might just be that the devs were lazy or the fact that the original creator stepped out of the franchise after EA bought it, but before ts4 Nighat Caliente had always been their mom.

    • @secretlybees
      @secretlybees Год назад

      This would be cool, but the world Lunar Lakes where Bella was sent was in the future, not the past. Matpat missed that. So, the books probably weren't by her, but could actually be by Alexander Goth if his father married Dina and Alexander somehow ended up with their alien tech.

  • @myr996
    @myr996 Год назад +526

    Bella is for sure the most known Sims Lore mistery, but there is a LOT more. There is even a channel devoted to it.
    I dare MatPat to uncover Lolita Goth or the hidden cloned misteries

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk Год назад

      @Thank me later 🅥 F off spammer.

    • @tumblingstarmoonchild
      @tumblingstarmoonchild Год назад +11

      Lolita Goth??? 👀👀👀👀

    • @nova-qs6th
      @nova-qs6th Год назад +9

      Oh what's the channel name?

    • @adammorin2955
      @adammorin2955 Год назад +2

      What i want to know is how is bella goth in sims 4? Is sims 4 between 3 and 1 or after 2

    • @jooniesjjk1047
      @jooniesjjk1047 Год назад +13

      @@adammorin2955 i think EA said the sims 4 is a completely different timeline 😬

  • @babymagan1993
    @babymagan1993 6 месяцев назад

    YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE PERSON THAT MAKES VIDEOS I AM SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS

  • @maddievlogs519
    @maddievlogs519 Год назад +3

    15:18 STOP. TJE PNE WOTH THE PURPLE HAIR. Could that possibly be…
    LAURENZSIDE?!

  • @KamawnTH
    @KamawnTH Год назад +1243

    "The average humans pupil grows by 55% if they are excited"
    Matpat when he hears backstory in a no lore game: ⚫ ⚫

  • @DittoAPokemon
    @DittoAPokemon Год назад +224

    So what’s also important about lunar lakes is it’s actually in the future, ahead of sims 2. And Bella has a descendent in that world.

  • @paigelee933
    @paigelee933 Год назад

    MatPat and my favorite game??!! the blessing I didn’t know I needed😭

  • @2aar3qr2
    @2aar3qr2 5 месяцев назад

    I love how matpat finishes theory's that have been unsolved for years in a few minutes

  • @MikaelaKMajorHistory
    @MikaelaKMajorHistory Год назад +651

    Finally MatPat! There’s so much lore in the Sims franchise. Can’t believe you haven’t covered this! (Then again, many many others already have.)

  • @beble895
    @beble895 Год назад +394

    if anyone's interested in a super extensive deep-dive on other sims mysteries, you should check out Plumbella's "entire history of" series!

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Год назад +11

      yes! the bella explanation that plumbella made a video on is by FAR my favorite explanation and the one that makes the most sense to me

    • @beble895
      @beble895 Год назад +5

      @@julia-so5jo I trust Plumbella’s sims lore more than anyone else’s tbh :’)

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Год назад

      @@beble895 me too lol

    • @sltrskid
      @sltrskid Год назад +2

      buh buh buh but she's buh buh british

    • @brandonevans3994
      @brandonevans3994 Год назад +3

      @@sltrskid yup sorry can’t really trust their theories if their British lol

  • @Lil_Why
    @Lil_Why Год назад +1

    Im so new to the backstories…. It’s blowing my mind! So much information to delve into without getting lost! This is making me fall I love all over again with sims ☺️❤️

  • @missCaution8
    @missCaution8 Год назад +1

    This is an amazing video. You definitely got my sub!

  • @kingofpilgrims368
    @kingofpilgrims368 Год назад +211

    I won’t lie, I would take Bella from her house by woo-ing her and convincing her to leave Mortimer on multiple occasions. that pencil thin mustache just always made me see him as a villain 😅

  • @pachunky
    @pachunky Год назад +397

    OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D GUYS EVER COVER THE SIMS

    • @bramvanharen689
      @bramvanharen689 Год назад +1

      @Thank me later 🅥 SHUT UP

    • @siliyan
      @siliyan Год назад +2

      geez this comment section are full of bots

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel Год назад

      Fr

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel Год назад +1

      @Queen haha..wait

    • @ThePotatoLord1003
      @ThePotatoLord1003 Год назад +1

      *WARNING WARNING: BOTS DETECTED!*
      *PLEASE LEAVE THE PERIMETER!*

  • @StygianNightmare
    @StygianNightmare Год назад

    Fantastic work as always my guys!! Love this so so so much!

  • @Thedueloquat233
    @Thedueloquat233 Год назад +1

    OH MY GOD MY JAW DROPPED THROUGH THIS WHOLE VIDEO

  • @reposkull2550
    @reposkull2550 Год назад +452

    Now we just need matpat to breakdown the lore of the puppet combo games

  • @taylorwalker7417
    @taylorwalker7417 Год назад +225

    The different mechanics The Sims uses to hide lore is so fun and creative! Plus, there's some surprisingly dark/intricate stuff hidden in those games (Princess Cordelia, Greg and the Occult Wars, and Agnes Crumplebottom to name a few😨) I hope this becomes a regular go-to!

    • @natara2046
      @natara2046 Год назад +1

      This needs more likes

    • @imbetterlol1670
      @imbetterlol1670 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/7YPapaMF3dI/видео.html
      Finally its here

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Год назад

      Biggest Lore in Sims: Player tortures Everybody~

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Год назад

      Sims Players: Thank you for support!
      Minecraft Players: **Claps Claps Claps**
      GTA Players: **Claps Claps Claps**

  • @heykatlin
    @heykatlin Год назад +1

    Please keep doing sims lore the
    Amount within the game is insane!

  • @firenomad
    @firenomad Год назад +5

    This is the best thing I have ever watched! Freaking hilarious and why Goths will always be my favorites lmao

  • @iitskyle
    @iitskyle Год назад +154

    Only tiny flaw here is that Alexander did actually travel to the past too! I think its in the DS game where Alexander is all grown up and married to a girl called Cecilia Goth but its set before the events of the sims franchise. So its theorised that he wrote the books in the hopes that it may change the course of events in the future and stop Bella from being abducted in the first place. Sims 4 is meant to be set on an alternate timeline which could very well be the one created due to Alexanders actions.

  • @CherryCheetah
    @CherryCheetah Год назад +212

    The Sims 2 had some wild lore - especially the Strangetown sims like Olive Specter and her graveyard garden and secret son who may or may not be the Nervous Subject (there are two of them), or the sim who married alien who abducted her father. But then there's Brandi who got pregnant with her husband after he died. So much to explore!

    • @beccawiegers6454
      @beccawiegers6454 Год назад +14

      Not to mention Nervous subject's genes being a literal clone of the grim reaper.

  • @RockinRoyaltyx3
    @RockinRoyaltyx3 Год назад +1

    This theory has been out for a bit in the sims community. But I like how concisive and easy to follow this was compared to others who have come to the same conclusion. If you aren't a simmer it might be terribly confusing otherwise. Great video!

  • @xarenanotmyrealname4134
    @xarenanotmyrealname4134 Год назад +8

    I do wish he would do theory's for other Sims backstory's but I feel like that's not really going to happen.

  • @LaurenTheorist
    @LaurenTheorist Год назад +170

    I love this, but I'm confused why MatPat kept mentioning that the Goths had Cassandra but forgetting poor Alex. 😂 Also, he should look into the Sims 4! It's the 'fixed' timeline.

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte Год назад +17

      the sims 4 is just an alternate timeline. I don't think anyone in the community considers it canon

    • @Angel_principe_Art
      @Angel_principe_Art Год назад +11

      Yeah, the sims 4 is an alternate timeline.
      It goes sims 3, sims 1, and sims 2 in the original timeline

    • @LaurenTheorist
      @LaurenTheorist Год назад +5

      Yeah, that's why I said 'fixed'. The Goth family is together again, but I don't know if I would say this alternate reality is better or worse than the original. 🤔

    • @wig.snatcher
      @wig.snatcher Год назад +7

      how about just ignoring existence of the sims 4

  • @hostilebuffalo
    @hostilebuffalo Год назад +104

    "there's one family in particular that's surrounded by mystery" actually a lot of them are 👀 the sims lore is a lot deeper than you'd expect

    • @ravengyal
      @ravengyal Год назад

      Exactly lol look at the noobs 🥲

    • @RafaelMunizYT
      @RafaelMunizYT Год назад +6

      the sims be having much more lore than story driven games

  • @TheOG-GG
    @TheOG-GG 4 месяца назад +1

    Finally you are doing SIMS THEORY! On Sims lore!! FINALLY! Do one on simlish songs too or Simlish itself? :D There is so much more Sims lore to dig through!!

  • @johnathanegbert9277
    @johnathanegbert9277 Год назад +2

    You should do some videos on SPORE!
    It may have a whole series' worth of lore!

  • @nicknasty6369
    @nicknasty6369 Год назад +503

    Izzzyzzz recently did a video revolving around Sims lore and Bella goth was a big part of it, the most interesting part is that when you find Bella Goth in Strangetown (Sims 2) her character model is different from the actual Bella Goth, implying that it wasn't actually Bella, but some sort of alien copy that got sent back to Strangetown

    • @CaityRaindrop
      @CaityRaindrop Год назад +96

      Devs confirmed it to be the same Bella, due to technical issues they couldn't just move her over(trying will cause corruption) so they recreated her and that's why she has differences.

    • @tjgdddfcn
      @tjgdddfcn Год назад +8

      @@CaityRaindrop didnt she like have her family tree be aliens or something (or maybe it was empty)

    • @Xxurdowg1
      @Xxurdowg1 Год назад +5

      Plumbella covered this 3 yrs ago! Izzyzzyd vid was a great insisght

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 Год назад +10

      @@tjgdddfcn Her family tree in strange town is completely empty, so no, no alien stuff

    • @RafaelMunizYT
      @RafaelMunizYT Год назад +8

      @@CaityRaindrop what if the devs are backing up the caliente twins? I don't know man, we gotta suspect even the devs

  • @eddyiguess4286
    @eddyiguess4286 Год назад +242

    Can you please do more Sims theories? Something about the life and history of these simulated games is really incredible with how much depth the creators put into the lore

    • @imbetterlol1670
      @imbetterlol1670 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/7YPapaMF3dI/видео.html
      Finally its here

    • @user-hd8cf8bu5y
      @user-hd8cf8bu5y Год назад

      *LINK TO THE CLIP OF YOUR DAD COMING BACK WITH THE MILK:*
      ruclips.net/video/eo_LqM3CfUs/видео.html

    • @user-hd8cf8bu5y
      @user-hd8cf8bu5y Год назад

      *LINK TO THE CLIP OF YOUR DAD COMING BACK WITH THE MILK:*
      ruclips.net/video/eo_LqM3CfUs/видео.html

    • @josephedee4808
      @josephedee4808 Год назад

      Lmao RUclips really needs to fix their bot problem.

    • @linalokir2178
      @linalokir2178 Год назад

      @@josephedee4808 truee

  • @Kat_dragon
    @Kat_dragon 7 месяцев назад +1

    “Golf, to miniature golf.” Guess she’s not as open as we thought

  • @museumofskulls2972
    @museumofskulls2972 Год назад

    I'd love to see more Sims theories from you guys!

  • @707Honeypot
    @707Honeypot Год назад +216

    Im so happy MatPat covered the Sims. It is one of my favorite games and I’d love for him to cover more mysteries from it, like Tragic Clowns, how magic is treated in the sims games, and other fun storylines

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks Год назад +816

    I'm so happy MatPat covered the Sims

  • @Mefunny84
    @Mefunny84 Год назад +12

    The older his episodes get
    The better they get

  • @maikelele6513
    @maikelele6513 Год назад +2

    now ican't wait for the sims 5 to give us the rest of the story