What an amazing speech - Michael Davies was truly a brilliant, witty, and articulate Catholic layman! We are in dire need of more such clear and bold men in the Church.
I go to the SSPX in Atlanta and this passed Sunday Father said in his homily that approval for a new church on the current grounds has been approved because of the growth of the church 🙏
This is my first time actually hearing Michael Davies speak even though he has gone to his eternal reward, but this name keeps coming up in the Trad World and I can see why....Thank you again for posting this classic video about Michael Davies defending the SSPX. God Bless you and your Family, Kennedy. Pope St. Pius X, Ora Pro Nobis Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Ora Pro Nobis
I recall back in the 80s Michael Davies honoring us with his presence in a speech he gave when I was attending the TLM mass but I was young and didn't quite know what was going on in the Church at that time. Had I known then what I know now, I would've been singing his praises! I guess it's never too late. Thank you Mr. Davies for defending the Faith so well. RIP.
Michael Davies - such a legend! What abounding truth is spoken. If you close your eyes it could be a talk presented by a faithful catholic last night. The SSPX has never conceded to the nightmare that we now live in. Thanks be to Almighty God always! To our Archbishop Levebvre - thank you for our wonderful priests - ora pro nobis. Great post Kennedy!
Dr. Jones is a great Catholic who has posited many great theses, and I admire and respect him deeply. I also disagree with him on this point and agree with the great, late Michael Davies. "Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control" is perhaps one of the most important books of the 21st century thus far. Great minds and good Catholics can disagree yet debate them and make their case like rational adults.
Greetings! What is the latest on TLM in Costa Rica? I heard, after the Motu Proprio, TLM Mass in Costa Rica was banned. I would love to have an update. Are there any clandestine Masses?
I love this video! So timely and brilliant! I wish he was alive today to add his voice to the current TLM movement although I feel his influence on us in this many ways! May he RIP 🙏💕✝️. Michael Davies, pray for us🙏💕!
As a 58 year old revert to the church, I find this all so troubling in that it is not only obvious that the church was in crisis then but, is past the crisis stage now. I discovered the TLM at the age of 55 and it was at my first TLM that the weight of what was done to me and us fell upon me. I mourned and despaired of the crime committed against me and Our Good Lord. If there is ever a lawsuit against the Vatican II crime syndicate, please include me. The damage to my soul and my life thereafter in the Novus Ordo is unforgivable. It’s no coincidence that I was raised in St. Athanasius Church in the Bronx, unfortunately a true Novus Ordo.
I believe I must have lapsed at a similar time to, returned at a similar time to you, and have also, praise God, found TLM! I am 58 now - I wish I’d have known more about what we were being deprived of, back in the 80’s. God bless you. 🙏
So strong, so much faith, standing fast against the lies, alone, it would have been inconceivable for this great man to betray our lord...Marcel Lefebvre, thank you 🙏
I love Mr. Davies, RIP. What a wonderful scholar and a gentleman. In contrast to EMJ’s desperate personal attacks. Thank you Kennedy for posting this so more people can hear the arguments laid out so clearly.
What a treasure Michael Davies was. It's a little dry at times, but his appearance on William F Buckley's Firing Line with Malachi Martin is pretty fantastic. ruclips.net/video/ERPQaQ1Gn5U/видео.html
Oh yes! I enjoyed him there as well. I only wish the camera would have panned over to the poor padre who was on the receiving end of Mr. Davies' genius rebuttals and comments. Seems this only occurred a few times but still excellent program!
2004 First Annual Walter Matt Michael Davies said Archbishop Lefevre is a Saint Davies Biography Apologia Pro Marcel Lefevre sadly never put on Audio/RUclips
You know if Saint Athanasius had done the same thing in our time as he did back in the Arian Heresey, he would have been excommunicated just like Lefebvre and treated unjustly
E Michael Jones, what a pity, has not been able to get over his intellectual pride and admit he was wrong. He stumbles and mumbles whenever asked about it now. So incoherent in a man who is normally quite the opposite .
Is there anywhere to watch Dr. Jones' turn speaking? I admire and respect him a great deal though I tend to disagree with him on this matter. I would still like to hear his part.
I am struck by the supernatural assumptions that any Catholic would take for granted when Davies was speaking that today are considered quaint or even non-existent. It is impossible to engage in meaningful discussion with a Vatican where many of those in power act as if the supernatural order had been replaced by human actions of ‘accompaniment’.
Great talk! By the same logic the bishops and priests consecrated by abp Thuc are also not in schism. This will bring consolation to some of the mainstream sedevacantists (ie SSPV and CMRI).
The problem was not that bishop Thuc's consecrations were schismatic. The issue is that bishop thuc was not in his right frame of mind and did things outside of the Catholic faith. That's a different problem altogether.
@@glamygirlie6829 I have heard about the theory of ‘not being in reign state of mind’, but account of that is very unconvincing and there are others who say that he was in perfectly good state of mind. As far as I know there has never been any medical opinion or official statement on this issue. Second, even if it was true, that would certainly not invalidate sacraments conferred by him. This is a known and well documented Church teaching… Peace!
Can anyone inform me, Is the entirety of this debate, all of it, available online or in some other format? I would be interested in seeing it. What year did this occur?
In the light, please excuse my lack of innate cohesion with your thrust, of the 23 odd rites that are in communion with Rome, why "only" the Tridentine Mass? The afore mentioned belongs to a period more than 1500 years after the times of our Lord.. I know of no indications of Jesus about the form of our mass, except for Our Lord's Prayer, which is not recited correctly in the USA... it is in Italy, thanks to Pope Francis... (with that I am not indicating any extraordinary allegiance to *our* Pope. My take on the ban to the Tridentine Mass was more political than religious...
I would think anyone who has watched the debate that isn't completely biased towards the SSPX would conclude that Jones won both the debate and the argument..... I think people would also conclude that Davies was a very sincere man of good will.
That statement is inaccurate. Pope Francis pointed out that we could go to the SSPX for confession. The SSPX recently were able to have Confirmations in the Sanford, FL area in a diocesan church.
The Holy Tridentine Mass the way of the FUTURE!!! Continue to Know Love and Serve the Lord ❤️🎚📿⛪️📖🧎♀️🤲🙌🎚🕊📿🙏🏻🧎♀️Prayers for family and friends to make a stand for JESUS ~ AMEN!!!
Archbishop Lefebvre pray for us 🌹
How greatly we now find ourselves in need of man like Michael Davies. A true soldier for the Catholic Faith.
Also grateful for arch bishop Lafebvre
😮😮😮🎉🎉
What an amazing speech - Michael Davies was truly a brilliant, witty, and articulate Catholic layman! We are in dire need of more such clear and bold men in the Church.
This is pure gold. Thank you for sharing with us 🙏🏼. God bless Archbishop Lefebvre 🙏🏼
I love listening to Micheal Davies, sure wish we still had him and John Vennari with us today🙏 sure they are in heaven praying for us.
We've lost some of our best but they're happier than we are now.
Ss. Michael Davies, John Vennari, Pius X, & Marcel Lefebvre: pray for us!!!🙏🙏🙏
Amen!!
I freaking love this man. Thank God for Michael Davies.
LONG LIVE MARCEL LEFEBVRE. 🙏👍💪🙏
...who may have single-handedly saved the TLM!
One day a Real Pope will Canonize
Thank you, I love his matter-of-fact manner. Funny too. SSPX forever.💯
I go to the SSPX in Atlanta and this passed Sunday Father said in his homily that approval for a new church on the current grounds has been approved because of the growth of the church 🙏
Is that Father Danel? I went to St. Michael's in Roswell GA for a period of about six months from 2020 to 2021.
@@philcortens5214 Yes
@@jimmy_woods4337 Sounds good. Hope to see all y'all again next summer if not sooner.
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam!
I attend the same chapel. Fr. Danel is excellent.
This is my first time actually hearing Michael Davies speak even though he has gone to his eternal reward, but this name keeps coming up in the Trad World and I can see why....Thank you again for posting this classic video about Michael Davies defending the SSPX.
God Bless you and your Family, Kennedy.
Pope St. Pius X,
Ora Pro Nobis
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre,
Ora Pro Nobis
ruclips.net/video/SLLpNQRPbbw/видео.html
Classic debate. I give E. Michael Jones credit for my own conversion. However, I am eternally greatful I found the SSPX soon after.
I recall back in the 80s Michael Davies honoring us with his presence in a speech he gave when I was attending the TLM mass but I was young and didn't quite know what was going on in the Church at that time. Had I known then what I know now, I would've been singing his praises! I guess it's never too late. Thank you Mr. Davies for defending the Faith so well. RIP.
One of the best apologetic of our time ❤
Thank you Kennedy for the video. God bless Michael Davies
Michael Davies - such a legend! What abounding truth is spoken. If you close your eyes it could be a talk presented by a faithful catholic last night. The SSPX has never conceded to the nightmare that we now live in. Thanks be to Almighty God always! To our Archbishop Levebvre - thank you for our wonderful priests - ora pro nobis. Great post Kennedy!
Dr. Jones is a great Catholic who has posited many great theses, and I admire and respect him deeply. I also disagree with him on this point and agree with the great, late Michael Davies. "Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control" is perhaps one of the most important books of the 21st century thus far. Great minds and good Catholics can disagree yet debate them and make their case like rational adults.
As I have listened to the arguments on both sides, the argument from the SSPX, and from Archbishop Lefevre himself, are by far the most compelling.
God bless Archbishop Lebreve and the SSPX ✝️✝️✝️
Greetings and blessings to you, Kennedy Hall.
How relevant Michael’s speech is for today!
Just occurred to me - is more relevant today than back then! 😮 so many points proven true
He is a Saint already!! Greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Greetings! What is the latest on TLM in Costa Rica? I heard, after the Motu Proprio, TLM Mass in Costa Rica was banned. I would love to have an update. Are there any clandestine Masses?
Archbishop Lefebvre Ora pro Nobis
@TKR thank you for your service to the Church!
I love this video! So timely and brilliant! I wish he was alive today to add his voice to the current TLM movement although I feel his influence on us in this many ways! May he RIP 🙏💕✝️. Michael Davies, pray for us🙏💕!
Anyone who persists in viewing the SSPX as schismatic needs to get a link to this.
I think the confusion comes from The sspx professing allegiance to the pope and then turning around, ignoring the pope completely. That's schism.
Let’s not forget Michael Davies actually opposed the consecration of the 4 SSPX bishops.
This was so much fun, thank you for sharing
As a 58 year old revert to the church, I find this all so troubling in that it is not only obvious that the church was in crisis then but, is past the crisis stage now. I discovered the TLM at the age of 55 and it was at my first TLM that the weight of what was done to me and us fell upon me. I mourned and despaired of the crime committed against me and Our Good Lord. If there is ever a lawsuit against the Vatican II crime syndicate, please include me. The damage to my soul and my life thereafter in the Novus Ordo is unforgivable. It’s no coincidence that I was raised in St. Athanasius Church in the Bronx, unfortunately a true Novus Ordo.
I believe I must have lapsed at a similar time to, returned at a similar time to you, and have also, praise God, found TLM! I am 58 now - I wish I’d have known more about what we were being deprived of, back in the 80’s. God bless you. 🙏
Just saw the old firing line video with Michael Davies.
Fascinating. I didn't realise Michael Davies was a fellow Brit but then I'd never heard him speak.
Great find, thanks for posting the video Kennedy
So strong, so much faith, standing fast against the lies, alone, it would have been inconceivable for this great man to betray our lord...Marcel Lefebvre, thank you 🙏
Thank you Kenny for this video!!!
I love Mr. Davies, RIP. What a wonderful scholar and a gentleman. In contrast to EMJ’s desperate personal attacks. Thank you Kennedy for posting this so more people can hear the arguments laid out so clearly.
I've seen this already. Davies was a genius.
Wow !!
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.
Better late than never. I refer to myself of course.
First time to watch this. God bless Michael Davies!
BTY- I'm reading your new book...what an EXCELLENT read!
Exceptional Truth Presentation.
I miss that man
MIC DROP!
Shout out to the Ramada inn...
Saw this full debate about two years ago, it was very interesting on both sides.
Ordaining a bishop or in this case bishops without a Pontifical mandate is an excommunicable act. It is that simple.
What a treasure Michael Davies was. It's a little dry at times, but his appearance on William F Buckley's Firing Line with Malachi Martin is pretty fantastic.
ruclips.net/video/ERPQaQ1Gn5U/видео.html
Oh yes! I enjoyed him there as well. I only wish the camera would have panned over to the poor padre who was on the receiving end of Mr. Davies' genius rebuttals and comments. Seems this only occurred a few times but still excellent program!
+JMJ+ Wonderful. Thank you for sharing this.
Yep
2004 First Annual Walter Matt Michael Davies said Archbishop Lefevre is a Saint
Davies Biography Apologia Pro Marcel Lefevre sadly never put on Audio/RUclips
You know if Saint Athanasius had done the same thing in our time as he did back in the Arian Heresey, he would have been excommunicated just like Lefebvre and treated unjustly
E Michael Jones, what a pity, has not been able to get over his intellectual pride and admit he was wrong. He stumbles and mumbles whenever asked about it now. So incoherent in a man who is normally quite the opposite .
Early 90's? What did he make of Pope Michael (recently elected back then)?
Is there anywhere to watch Dr. Jones' turn speaking? I admire and respect him a great deal though I tend to disagree with him on this matter. I would still like to hear his part.
Same!
ruclips.net/video/wE_URMCvXHs/видео.html
SSPX in Schism Debate Part 1 E Michael Jones Resolves
ruclips.net/video/wE_URMCvXHs/видео.html
Yes, this is part 2 of 4 debate. Search for "sspx in schizm debate". Spoiler alert!!! MD wins 😉
His views on the SSPX and Mons. Lefebvre have changed since then. He praised both in a recent interview with Bishop Williamson
I am struck by the supernatural assumptions that any Catholic would take for granted when Davies was speaking that today are considered quaint or even non-existent. It is impossible to engage in meaningful discussion with a Vatican where many of those in power act as if the supernatural order had been replaced by human actions of ‘accompaniment’.
They seem to believe in the supernatural, but it’s not God. 👿
I was wondering if Michael Voris well I hope that he watch this so he'll stop attacking sspx.
Good point. Maybe we should send this link to him!
Deo Gratias.
Great talk!
By the same logic the bishops and priests consecrated by abp Thuc are also not in schism.
This will bring consolation to some of the mainstream sedevacantists (ie SSPV and CMRI).
The problem was not that bishop Thuc's consecrations were schismatic. The issue is that bishop thuc was not in his right frame of mind and did things outside of the Catholic faith. That's a different problem altogether.
@@glamygirlie6829 I have heard about the theory of ‘not being in reign state of mind’, but account of that is very unconvincing and there are others who say that he was in perfectly good state of mind. As far as I know there has never been any medical opinion or official statement on this issue.
Second, even if it was true, that would certainly not invalidate sacraments conferred by him. This is a known and well documented Church teaching…
Peace!
RIP Michael Davies!
Can anyone inform me, Is the entirety of this debate, all of it, available online or in some other format? I would be interested in seeing it.
What year did this occur?
I dont know the year, but it is on RUclips (3 or 4 parts, i dont rem). The name is SSPX In Schism Davies Jones
Early 90s
Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre, pray for us.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Are the other side‘s arguments (E. Michael Jones) to convincing to be given a voice here? Audi alteram partem!
No, just a separate file I don’t have
sound issues ???
Hilarious! St Lefebvre!🙏💥
It’s unfortunate Davies accepted the new rite of ordination despite proving how it was I avoid due to believe Paul VI was a true pope
The Original Dr. Kwasiewski?
In the light, please excuse my lack of innate cohesion with your thrust, of the 23 odd rites that are in communion with Rome, why "only" the Tridentine Mass? The afore mentioned belongs to a period more than 1500 years after the times of our Lord.. I know of no indications of Jesus about the form of our mass, except for Our Lord's Prayer, which is not recited correctly in the USA... it is in Italy, thanks to Pope Francis... (with that I am not indicating any extraordinary allegiance to *our* Pope.
My take on the ban to the Tridentine Mass was more political than religious...
Michael Davies is such a scholar and a gentleman! Not so for E. Michael Jones. Highly recommend watching the entire debate.
C'mon, yes he is
I believe it was Divine Providence!
Would you accept the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ in a Ukrainian Catholic Orthodox Mass?
Archbishop Lefebvre Ora pro Nobis
I would think anyone who has watched the debate that isn't completely biased towards the SSPX would conclude that Jones won both the debate and the argument..... I think people would also conclude that Davies was a very sincere man of good will.
lol good one
😂🤭🙏🙏🙏🙏❣
The SSPX do not have valid confessions. Commit a mortal sin and you might want to reconsider the SSPX.
That statement is inaccurate. Pope Francis pointed out that we could go to the SSPX for confession. The SSPX recently were able to have Confirmations in the Sanford, FL area in a diocesan church.
@@michaellamb5534 I'm going off what I read in statements made by Pope Benedict XVI during his pontificate.
If you want me to find them, I can.
Paid mechanic
The Holy Tridentine Mass the way of the FUTURE!!!
Continue to Know Love and Serve the Lord ❤️🎚📿⛪️📖🧎♀️🤲🙌🎚🕊📿🙏🏻🧎♀️Prayers for family and friends to make a stand for JESUS ~ AMEN!!!
E. Michael Jones met his match with Michael Davies.