Why is no one calling this out as "collective punishment" against World Jewry, when the very source of antizionism/antisemitism's current "hurricane" is also the source of the false accusation against Israel of "collective punishment in Gaza"?
This is your best interview yet. Jonathan is incredibly knowledgeable and articulate. But you did a better job listening and waiting than in any interview this past year.
Part of the problem is that the ADL is a lib-left progressive leaning organization, that's too universalist. As a political/philosophical conservative/traditionalist, I too often find them to be rather off-putting. Under Greenblatt, it's moved even further to the left than it was under Foxman. It should stick to focusing on Israel/Jew hate!
@@kap925 it’s always been slightly left of center- it gives it stronger credibility in the spaces it needs to be. You think a democratic administration would cooperate at all with them if they weren’t? They barely tolerate them as is.
For sure. But what is ADL actually doing about it? For instance, publishers and editors are basically boycotting anything Jewish in terms of book content. We reached out to ADL on that and they've done nothing. If our voices are removed from the literary world, how can we even push back against antisemitism?
Self publishing. Ditto for independent media in that tech opens lots of things up for journalism. If not for tech Elon couldn't do these interviews & we couldn't watch .... Self publishing e books can be done w no overhead by use of a laptop & the internet.
Not among the young because our education system has been totally hijacked by the Middle East. Look up who donates the most to our universities and the picture will get a little clearer as to how we got here.
27:06 As an ex-Muslim and ex-Islamist, plus a long career in international development, I cannot emphasize the info-sphere more. Trouble is the source of the work will still be “the Jews”. Therefore, kindly double up on the non-Jewish support and voices. Even though there’s an Uncle Tom element in there. Thank G-d we got TRUMP now. That’s a leverage but yeah let’s maintain kashrut from the right wing too.
Antizionism is based on post modern ideology that is the origin of the oppressor/oppressed discourse. The use of the word antizionism and the colonialist, racist, Holocaust inversion and anti imperialist discourse became part of the "left" identity because of a worldwide propaganda effort of the soviets in the seventies after the 6 day war. It was a push back after Israel refused to become a Soviet satellite in the Middle East and in 1967 beat Jordan and the Syrian and Egyptian armies backed by Soviet weapons and training.
I stand with Israel. I am a zionist.My son is in the IDF. He fought in Haza. I am glad that he did. Jews that are not Zionists are making excuses. Only Zionism is the way Jews will be safe.,Isarel has the best air force in the world. Israel. is fighting for it's very existence. Go Israel.Am Yisrael Chai.
9:57 I’m still not surprised but just frustrated that you couldn’t see it all these decades. Case in point, I visited a Chabad once and struck up a discussion and the Rabbi said (alluding to Maimonides) “they are doing our job, talking about one god; so we don’t look into their religion”. Same goes in the social, political, and institutional areas. It’s good to get an understanding how people are framing you.
I'm not surprised. That definition isn't very clear. But, on the same note: imagine someone would equate Afghanistan with Islam, wouldn't he be called out for that?
calling Israel a genocidal or apartheid state is first and foremost incorrect. it may have a certain "truthiness" for some people based on their feelings, but it is not a statement that can be sustained by rational argumentation. in addition, one may then want to ask about the motivations for this incorrect statement. i'm sure there are people who feel they have pure motivations.
@maartenkranendonk8954 Israel is not committing a genocide and it is not an apartheid state. Check the definitions again and do more research. With regard to 'apartheid' e.g. 20% of Israelis are Arab. They are in the Knesset, in the Israeli Supreme Court, as doctors in the hospitals etc. On the other hand, in the surrounding Arab countries there are no or almost no Jews left. They were driven out or killed.
You don't know what Apartheid means. Apartheid by any rational understanding, in a socio political meaning is the regime that existed in racist era South Africa. Jews are the indigenous people of the South Levant - the ethnic group w/ the longes and oldest continuous presence in the region. Arab Muslims are the colonial settler invaders (just the last of a series since ancient times, such as Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Crusaders). Meaning your 'analogy' is pure false hood. Arabs have place in the Israeli Parliament, Supreme court, Armed forces, services are not segregated. BTW, the 'genocidal' ones are the militant Muslim Islamists who since at least 1947, they rejected UN's original 'Two State Solution' - unlike Jews, who accepted it. Arabs started a war; Jews fought back, won the war and declared independence. Like this first one, every single conflict, war or attack have been stated , prompted and provoked by Islamists and Muslims terrorists, they have been trying to erase the Jewish Yishuv ever since. Nice try w/ the wokester, post modern relativist BS subversion tactic of accusing others of that which you yourself do to them.
Palestinians stripped themselves of humanity when they acted like barbarians from the dark ages and slaughtered every man, woman and child - and pet they came across in an orgy of hatred, violence, rape and kidnapping. Stop apologizing for their barbarism. It’s pure unadulterated hatred. Simple. No one raised their skin when Bangladeshis are being massacred, or the Sudanese genocide occurring right now don’t they? This double standard is fastidious.
@@geertje1947 I am glad we can all agree that Israel is committing a genocide and is an actual apartheid state. That is a good beginning from which to work forward. Now the question is: How are we going to get the Israeli to start loving their Palestinian brothers and sisters? How are we going to take away this hate that permeates Israeli society? How are we going to make the Israeli's understand that they are not superior?
Why is no one calling this out as "collective punishment" against World Jewry, when the very source of antizionism/antisemitism's current "hurricane" is also the source of the false accusation against Israel of "collective punishment in Gaza"?
This is your best interview yet. Jonathan is incredibly knowledgeable and articulate. But you did a better job listening and waiting than in any interview this past year.
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Part of the problem is that the ADL is a lib-left progressive leaning organization, that's too universalist. As a political/philosophical conservative/traditionalist, I too often find them to be rather off-putting. Under Greenblatt, it's moved even further to the left than it was under Foxman. It should stick to focusing on Israel/Jew hate!
@@kap925 it’s always been slightly left of center- it gives it stronger credibility in the spaces it needs to be. You think a democratic administration would cooperate at all with them if they weren’t? They barely tolerate them as is.
Agree.
Thank you Eylon and Jonathan.
For sure. But what is ADL actually doing about it?
For instance, publishers and editors are basically boycotting anything Jewish in terms of book content. We reached out to ADL on that and they've done nothing. If our voices are removed from the literary world, how can we even push back against antisemitism?
It’s a good question- the ADL needs to better communicate their achievements.
Self publishing. Ditto for independent media in that tech opens lots of things up for journalism. If not for tech Elon couldn't do these interviews & we couldn't watch ....
Self publishing e books can be done w no overhead by use of a laptop & the internet.
The same happened to me when I was censured by the newspaper where I was writing for for 18 years. He is a instrument of Obama’s team
If this is true, there’s also unprecedented love for Israel in America. Never forget that.
Not among the young because our education system has been totally hijacked by the Middle East. Look up who donates the most to our universities and the picture will get a little clearer as to how we got here.
27:06 As an ex-Muslim and ex-Islamist, plus a long career in international development, I cannot emphasize the info-sphere more. Trouble is the source of the work will still be “the Jews”. Therefore, kindly double up on the non-Jewish support and voices. Even though there’s an Uncle Tom element in there. Thank G-d we got TRUMP now. That’s a leverage but yeah let’s maintain kashrut from the right wing too.
You were never a Muslim. You were always a son of a chew and you always will be.
Greenblatt has been ineffective for the Jewish community. We need better leadership.
Antizionism is based on post modern ideology that is the origin of the oppressor/oppressed discourse. The use of the word antizionism and the colonialist, racist, Holocaust inversion and anti imperialist discourse became part of the "left" identity because of a worldwide propaganda effort of the soviets in the seventies after the 6 day war. It was a push back after Israel refused to become a Soviet satellite in the Middle East and in 1967 beat Jordan and the Syrian and Egyptian armies backed by Soviet weapons and training.
Jonathan is such a sweetheart
Jonathon is a naive sweetheart. The interviewer is not.
I stand with Israel. I am a zionist.My son is in the IDF. He fought in Haza. I am glad that he did. Jews that are not Zionists are making excuses. Only Zionism is the way Jews will be safe.,Isarel has the best air force in the world. Israel. is fighting for it's very existence. Go Israel.Am Yisrael Chai.
Thank G-d the Jews and others alike are waking up! Please increase the pace and pressure!
9:57 I’m still not surprised but just frustrated that you couldn’t see it all these decades. Case in point, I visited a Chabad once and struck up a discussion and the Rabbi said (alluding to Maimonides) “they are doing our job, talking about one god; so we don’t look into their religion”. Same goes in the social, political, and institutional areas. It’s good to get an understanding how people are framing you.
The Boston Mapping Project is still live online. Why?!?!
If only ADL was actually doing their jobs. It's now a corrupt body that does more harm than good
Wow. The climate change analogy is brilliant!
the people that say it's antisemitic to equate Israel and Judaism also usually lie about the IHRA definition to make that point.
I'm not surprised. That definition isn't very clear. But, on the same note: imagine someone would equate Afghanistan with Islam, wouldn't he be called out for that?
Once again, we have been devastated by another "Pogrom".
48:48 don’t forget the presence of another certain religion/people is a massive characteristic.
I feel helpless to help other than pray for you all and against the evil of antisematism
ADL represents the Democratic Party not us
Whose is to define the political legitimacy of the State of Israel?
I have always suspected Tucker carelson
You destroyed the ADL. It’s time for you to go
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Does Eylon pay Lior Schlein for the rights to the name of the podcast?
I dont think you need to be linked to Iran for anti semites in Buenos Aires. 😅😅😅
A Brit and a yank…..
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The climate change analogy is just exactly right.
_"Antisemitic? It's a trick, we always use it (to silence criticism)."_
- *Israeli minister, Shulamit Aloni*
That video can still be found on RUclips.
She was a far leftist (rip). You lot do love cherrypicking
@@hadror13 As if there is a difference between cancer and cancer.
Calling Israel out as a genocidal apartheid state is not hate. It's not antisemitism, it is what friends do when they see friends go berserk.
calling Israel a genocidal or apartheid state is first and foremost incorrect. it may have a certain "truthiness" for some people based on their feelings, but it is not a statement that can be sustained by rational argumentation. in addition, one may then want to ask about the motivations for this incorrect statement. i'm sure there are people who feel they have pure motivations.
@maartenkranendonk8954
Israel is not committing a genocide and it is not an apartheid state.
Check the definitions again and do more research. With regard to 'apartheid' e.g.
20% of Israelis are Arab. They are in the Knesset, in the Israeli Supreme Court, as doctors in the hospitals etc.
On the other hand, in the surrounding Arab countries there are no or almost no Jews left.
They were driven out or killed.
You don't know what Apartheid means. Apartheid by any rational understanding, in a socio political meaning is the regime that existed in racist era South Africa. Jews are the indigenous people of the South Levant - the ethnic group w/ the longes and oldest continuous presence in the region.
Arab Muslims are the colonial settler invaders (just the last of a series since ancient times, such as Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Crusaders). Meaning your 'analogy' is pure false hood. Arabs have place in the Israeli Parliament, Supreme court, Armed forces, services are not segregated.
BTW, the 'genocidal' ones are the militant Muslim Islamists who since at least 1947, they rejected UN's original 'Two State Solution' - unlike Jews, who accepted it. Arabs started a war; Jews fought back, won the war and declared independence. Like this first one, every single conflict, war or attack have been stated , prompted and provoked by Islamists and Muslims terrorists, they have been trying to erase the Jewish Yishuv ever since.
Nice try w/ the wokester, post modern relativist BS subversion tactic of accusing others of that which you yourself do to them.
Palestinians stripped themselves of humanity when they acted like barbarians from the dark ages and slaughtered every man, woman and child - and pet they came across in an orgy of hatred, violence, rape and kidnapping. Stop apologizing for their barbarism. It’s pure unadulterated hatred. Simple. No one raised their skin when Bangladeshis are being massacred, or the Sudanese genocide occurring right now don’t they? This double standard is fastidious.
@@geertje1947 I am glad we can all agree that Israel is committing a genocide and is an actual apartheid state. That is a good beginning from which to work forward. Now the question is: How are we going to get the Israeli to start loving their Palestinian brothers and sisters? How are we going to take away this hate that permeates Israeli society? How are we going to make the Israeli's understand that they are not superior?