Real Lawyer Reacts to Batman: the Animated Series
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Please react to “Find Me Guilty” starring Vin Diesel.
React to law abiding citizen please
I think the electric chair is supposed to be for electric shock therapy.
The Trial was as Rigged as the election
@@douglas4934 the trial was a rigged as much as the cosby
“Is someone supposed to be writing all this down?”
Two Face, former District Attorney: *nervous sweating*
Only on the half that still has pores.
@@morganrobinson8042 Nice burn.
@@EpyonRules More like a half-burn, but I see what you did there.
Yea, I'm not entirely sure why they didn't have Two Face act as prosecution actually.
@@carsonm7292 not enough time in a 20 minute cartoon.
Lawyer who watches animated series is a lawyer who is trustworthy.
You should only trust an attorney as far as you can throw a book of law.
Please seek the council of an attorney on the legalities of throwing books of law.
Lawyer that watches one of the best animated series of the 90's is a trustworthy lawyer.
@@crickett3536 Hear hear!
Devin giving the Gotham district attorney a run for her money.
Anime is the rule of law.
The irony that I love is that even though the jury is rigged, they end up making a rational and impartial verdict.
Hit him with a rock!
With people like Riddler, Harley Quinn and Scarecrow in the jury, it's no surprise
@@SullySadface Love how they bring that back for Almost Got'em
I would say they didn't care, they were going to kill him anyway. They know Batman didn't create them, but they know Batman stop them each time they can.
Well, until the Joker put the original plan back on track, anyway.
"I would've killed her first!" Really makes clear that beneath the veneer of a children's show, these characters really are monsters.
And batman is by far the worst he stared into tje abyss and didn't blink. He's beyond insane .
Is he stupid? @@flying1dead155
The not blinking quote is about remaining sane
Objection: An asylum being portrayed as prison-like has historical precedent! Historically, asylums had very little difference from prisons and in fact, many prisons were converted into asylums. Batman as a franchise is very prone to blurring chronographic lines, and as such, portraying an asylum as prison-like is certainly thematically appropriate.
Very true, specifically the blurry chronology. TAS had a 1940's aesthetic but all of the technology was concurrent with our own, I could never figure out _when_ this series was supposed to take place as a kid.
It also was always an asylum for the CRIMINALLY insane, ie. patients that were often dangerous and needed measures to protect the staff- the founder built it after one of his patients escaped from where he was held and killed someone.
biohazard724 it kinda reminds me of The Incredibles. How their technology would sometimes be futuristic compared to ours, but the art/media is display like the 1940s
@@timothycarney9652 That's ironic, given how often the inmates escape Arkham.
It also has modern precedent, as people with severe mental illness today are highly likely to end up in prison instead of under medical supervision.
LegalEagle: _"But that's kind of a strawman"_
*Objection!* The only "strawman" is Scarecrow and he's actually just a man wearing straw and is not, in fact, made of straw.
But does the legal definition of a straw man imply that said straw man must be entirely made of straw?
@@webdesignerplays has a point. is a "garbage man" a man made of garbage? is a "cave man" a man made of caves?
Please sustain this by technicality Devin (Legal Eagle)
Quiet, all of you! Artists and writers will hear you and you'll inspire ridiculous comic book villains!
Objection! In the context given, a strawman is a type of argument, not some gimmicky supervillain.
My favorite joke is when Mad Hatter asks Joker for what he said to be taken off the record, Joker just replies "Record? Is someone supposed to be writing this down?" Always makes me laugh.
The fact that he looks at the camera when he says that is icing on the cake
Joke's on him?
Mad Hatter was obsessed with a girl who didn’t want him. Waylon Jones was born as Killer Croc. Scarecrow enjoys instilling fear into people. Riddler had his game creation taken from his boss. “Big Bad Harv” was always inside of Harvey Dent which turned him into Two-Face. Harley Quinn was a doctor who fell in love with the Joker in his sessions like a Florence Nightingale effect. The Ventriloquist has a split personality just like Two-Face. Poison Ivy loves plants more than people and she will attempt to kill people to save plants and trees. Joker started out as a goon and falling in the vat of chemicals just brought out something that was always there. So the question is how did Batman make them? The answer is he didn’t because they were always made that way long before Batman came into the picture.
Yup, and that's the point of the episode. Batman doesn't create villains, as if his mere presence invites challenge. Rather, the rampant crime and villainy in Gotham's underworld prompted a borderline autoimmune response: the Batman.
The real question is how did Gotham not have any villains like that before Bruce became Batman The only thing they had was the court of the owls
Maybe joker but that's a mayber and he is the reason for the metal degrading of the rest
@@A-TALKING-TOASTER oh they did
@@A-TALKING-TOASTER Gotham had villains. It had plenty of crime families there. The "masquarade" that happened after Batman is just a "new* generation of villains that is entirely for the plot of Batman mythos.
"For a mental institute, this looks a lot like a prison."
Sorry, Devin, but I think that was always the idea behind Arkham.
Yeah, made it weird when a Deathstroke comic of all thiings claims the more realistic, less supervillainy patients were in a seperate wing from the the supervillains but still in Arkham.
Like Arkham isn't realistic, so trying to make it realistic, at least to me, will ring false unless its an au or something.
Yeah, I think it's known to be Mental Institute of the criminally insane.
Originally Arkham was in the comics but rather it was Blackgate prison. Arkham came later but still had to keep up with the 'lock them in prison' idea.
@@MishTheMash Blackgate Prison still exists in the comics. It just has not crazy super heroes.
@@zachester Yeah that's about right. Blackgate is where the mobsters went.
"There's no bailiff here"
Objection: There is in fact a bailiff, that being the Ventriloquist and Scarface. Only problem is that they just aren't very good at being bailiffs.
Also Killer Croc seems to act as one at times here, but I'm fairly certain that's improper as well since he's also in the jury.
What do you call the ventriloquist guy?
@@4olufade He's actually known as The Ventriloquist. His puppet is named Scarface.
@@4olufade Arnold Wesker
Puppets of mob bosses make terrible bailiffs. Who'd have thought?
I love when Judge Joker walks in, it's expected, but Mark Hamil was on point with the jokes written in this one.
More like he HAMMERED them in.
His Trickster played a great judge in 90s flash😂
Fun fact: There was actually a bailiff in the courtroom, in a sense. Richard Moll of Night Court fame was the voice of Harvey Dent/Two-Face.
And by name, Nostradamus "Bull" Shannon
I would argue that the Arkham inmates having an incredibly biased trial is absolutely realistic, just not legally sound.
However, the Joker would absolutely be impartial, just because no one would believe him anyway, no matter what he says or does.
Everyone, including the viewers, would demand a fair trial, and he would insist that the trial was fair, but nobody would believe him.
Because he would ignore everything that happened during the trial and just do whatever he felt like regardless.
I mean batman became batman because Gotham was some what corrupted so.......
it's like the trial of Chicago 7
Ohhhhhh Snap!
I think the "electric chair" was actually a patient table for electro shock therapy; so totally appropriate for Arkham Asylum
That's what I was thinking.
Im.sorry, but could you please phrase your statement in the form of an objection?
Objection! Your Honor, the mentioned "Electric Chair" is in fact, a mere patient table, for Electro shock therapy of course! it's protocol in Arkham Asylum.
Yeah, some mental 'health' institutions, especially ones as grim and dehumanising as Arkham, have some pretty horrifying electroshock devices for 'patient control'. See: the Judge Rotenberg Centre. Or don't, if you're a normal person who gets distressed by horrifying child abuse.
Agreed, I always figured they jerry rigged the table into an electric chair.
Expert Opinion:
The reason you see these villains get harsh sentences for not even completing the crime is actually an A.R.G.U.S. precedent.
In this continuity Amanda Waller is as ruthless as she is in the comics. She actually has criminals put on long charges so they are more inclined for experimental testing, and at this time, A.R.G.U.S. Experts were starting Suicide Squad planning.
when the electric chair scene started you asked why did arkham have one. the best idea would be that it was used for electro therapy. and with many characters in the batman universe having a great variety of powers spread throughout them, for safety of staff they would strap them into it
The best joker line ever was "I'm crazy enough to fight Batman, but the IRS? noooooo thank you!" Lol
the reason i read about it is that you cant get away from tax fraud claiming insanity, so he would go to Jail instead of Arkham
-Proceeds to shove a comically large bag of money into the tax collector's hands-
@@daikatarokamegawa542 He was out of real money at that point. All he had left was monopoly money that he got tricked with.
It is funny
That is still hilarious to me til this day.
Objection: The jury was indeed a representative of the general population of the local area, that being Arkham Asylum.
And given that Batman is a grown man who dresses as a bat to cope with trauma I would also say, this is a jury of his peers. His defense is a bit dodgy, tho. Which fits the court which is very dodgy. Doesn't matter. Batman got given a happy end.
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 A "happy ending" you say ...
As for them representing society at large, they have effectuated a self release. an can at this moment be considered at large.
To be honest, the entirety of Gotham is weird to begin with.
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 exactly, in a sense they were a very literal jury of his peers, all mentally questionable criminals with theatrical gimmicks, costumes, and nicknames.
only a real lawyer would criticize the villain's kangaroo court like a proper one. man you need to do these kinds of vids again
6:30 Did they put a "I hate to see you go but I love to watch you leave" joke in there?
Yes. Yes they did exactly that.
Animation companies sometimes do throw a proverbial bone to any potential adults in the audience watching the show with their kids (WB was especially notorious for cheeky bits like this in that era).
Also, season 2 episode 7 of the Harley Quinn animated series starts off with a fun little courtroom scene that I think you'd get a kick out of.
Also Bruce Timm is a notorious hornball
Of all the jokes I ever heard on Batman the Animated Series, the one I’m most surprised they got away with:
Harley (dressed as Sydney Debris’s lawyer in “The Man Who Killed Batman”) to Bullock: “I believe I served you a subpoena once. It was a small subpoena.” at least the joke in “Trial” was subtle, that one isn’t even close to subtle.
not to mention they alos did add riskier things in there when they wanted to do certain things so the risker things would get cut and the original stayed
Objection: The "Electric Chair" actually would make sense if this was a mental institution in the mold of an "Insane Asylum'" which Arkham Asylum is. It was a common practice for Insane Asylums to use electroshock therapy to try to treat patients. It was one of the main reasons why Insane Asylums were considered unethical and largely abolished in favor of "Mental Institutions". Given that the villains have taken control of the Asylum, it seems reasonable that they would have been able to refurbish such a device to be lethal.
(Edit: Yes they still do electroshock Therapy. No, it's not the same as it used to be. I know someone who was essentially lobotomized by the process.)
And it's still an option for treatement in certain pathologies resistant to medical treatment.
Actually EST is still used, and is one of the more effective therapies we have for stuff like depression and schizophrenia.
The modern approach to mental health is more fine grained. Asylums housed people with mental defects regardless of cause, like syphilitics, Schizophrenics and feebleminded.
Came to the comments just to make sure this was covered.
Yep, I was going to bring this up. Glad to see someone else did
"Not a great plan from their perspective, but a great conceit for an episode." Batman villains in a nutshell.
My favorite detail about this episode is that one member of the jury (Riddler) disappears as the trial goes on, likely having decided to escape.
@@TheAzulmagia that's hilarious. All of these years and I never noticed that.
Mr. Dent likes trials. It's completely in character for him to do this. I don't know why the rest of them go along with this. I could see joker wanting to be a judge.
@@TheAzulmagia Equally likely to have been forgotten by the animators.
To be fair,
suggest this is planned out by the Joker - I can't say it is because I never watched this I'm just familiar with the dynamics of a number of the characters
IF the Joker is the one who plans this, his intentions is never to actually fully take down the Bat. The point is to constantly enforce this battle. By forcing him to take stand, it makes him be a part of another battle.
In later series and etc., no one except Joker is allowed to take down Batman. No villain, hero, or anyone EXCEPT Joker is allowed to actually defeat Batman.
This episode is hilarious. I like how he explains that Joker cant be a judge
And the FACT that the Villains are sore losers.
I’m a forensic scientist expert in Mexico, and my peers and I undertook several psychology and criminology classes during our time in college, and believe me when I say that these people are NOT in control of their faculties, they all are sick, and that’s a fact, hence they are in an asylum for the criminally insane, there’s a lot of endogenous and exogenous factors within these characters personalities that make them special cases, and that’s the main reason why they cannot be charged with regular penalties, i repeat, they are ill, for more references you can read DCM5, there you will find exactly what plethora of illnesses they all suffer from, anyway, I can take all day talking about this, quite interesting, love Batman, this is Batman, my Batman, rest in peace old friend (Kevin Conroy) you are the best.
I will become a forensic psychologist and I am also in Mexico. You are absolutely right, at least from what I know now, all of them in Mexico or most of the super villains in Batman, would be in mental facilities. But in United States this legislation is different. For example, in the case of Harvey Dent-Two face and the Ventriloquist, in Mexico they would considered not guilty for mental illness because of they DID. But, in United States since a case of a serial criminal with DID was declared non guilty and this enraged the public and the legal system, is now impossible or near impossible for someone with DID to be declared non guilty in the United States. While in Mexico they would be in a mental facility, in United States would be send to prission, or in much rare case, be declared as "Guilty but mentally ill" which means they would be in the hospital for an unlimited time, and then send to s delimited time prission sentence, which would result in many cases s life long sentence. Because in United States there is no limit of time someone can be in involuntary committment, while in Mexico I believe that the involuntary committment because of s crime cannot excede the 70 year period.
@@ivanavidaurreta8799it’s very interesting the differences in the American and Mexican justice system. In my own criminology class we talked extensively how our justice system is often used more as a system for organized “revenge” and punishment instead of justice or restoration. The American system relies not of fixing the problem or helping the guilty but is largely often about the satisfaction of someone getting what they “deserve” regardless of any outside circumstances. I’m not sure if it’s the same in Mexico but from only these comments it seems like things might be a bit more about helping people even the guilty?
@@mollybennett3291 I think so. I took a 'diplomaso' (I don't know the word in English. I think is associate degree) in law, and I think that at least in the Mexican system they have a little bit of more consideration in the therm of mentally ill patients. The problem is that the burocracy and the over crowding makes that even if a person is considered non guilty, normally they would end up in prision but in protected custody or in a special part of the prission that acomodatds people with mental illnesses. The problem is that is still a jail! Is not a hospital. So they just lock them up in there and they do not receive any care of a psychiatrist.
Now, if they are in mental hospitals if they are in a hospital of a big city like the Fray Bernardino for example, they will receive a good attention.
I mean to say that for what I know. If they end up in the psychiatric hospital, they will receive good attention. But this is difficult to achieve even if you are declared non guilty because of burocracy and corruption, so if you have bad luck you will go to an special area in prission where you will likely be mistreated and will not receive attention. While if you end up in a hospital dedicated to mental illness in a big city, you will receive a good attention.
@@mollybennett3291 well.... take look at Mexico's crime rates, or read one of the literally countkless stories about how they had to send the army in to fight crime, only to fail because the criminals either defeat the army by force or the army is simply bribed to let them go or even outright defect (see Los Zetas) to see how well Mexico is handling their crime problem.
But most are in control they often plan pit there crimes for days or weeks
The only problem I have is in painting Batman as purely a vigilante when in most continuities that is only true for his early years. Once Gordon becomes commissioner, Batman ends up being basically given license to do what he does so long as he doesn't intentionally kill or use excessive force. He's effectively a deputized vigilante.
yeah but it's more popular in mainstream media to paint him as a straight up vigilante though, so naturally most people are going to see him that way.
"use excessive force" Well, that didn't age well for Gordon.
I think in the 60's series they specifically say that he's "duly deputized"
@@StillJustDreaming you are correct. It's also why he had a designated parking spot right in front of the police headquarters and I believe in the pilot episode one Commissioner Gordon is considering calling him in he has a vote done with his senior Chiefs and they all agree later he doesn't with just him and chief O'Malley
The issue is they never make it official it's always under the table.
One of my favorite things about the animated Batman series is how well they acknowledge that the villains loathe Batman. They hate him so much that they all seek to absolutely break or embarass him rather than just outright kill him.
Well, that, but one of the reasons why Batman Animated was so beloved was how human a few of the villains were.
@@judgem0rt1s23 And the human elements of Bruce. This is a man who is capable of vigilante violence, dry snark and deep compassion.
The voice acting is also stellar. There’s a scene I vividly remember where Bruce takes a call while in his Batman getup, and his light, breezy voice coming out of the Caped Crusader was so dissonant it was kind of disturbing.
Exactly, it doesn’t make logical sense, but that’s the point. Gotham’s full of crazies.
No shit if I was a villain who’s trying to take over a city with an iron fist and had a super hero like Batman trying to take me down I wouldn’t hesitate to destroy him especially if my criminal empire is making lots of money 💵 , but them again there would be no Batman show and all his adventures would also end too LOL
Batman Beyond did such an amazing job expanding on it too, shame that we never really got a proper continuation or ending for Beyond
I think the biggest challenge with Batman (and I'd love you to confirm this) is that most evidence gathered by him would have been acquired illegally and thus, inadmissible in court, being either coerced or stolen.
I wanted to say this was true under "fruit of the poisonous tree," but a quick check tells me that doctrine is specifically to prevent police from obtaining evidence illegally, and there are some exceptions to it. A known vigilante turning in stolen evidence to the police would likely fall under the attenuation doctrine, as far as I can tell from the wikipedia page on Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.
Edit: LeagalEagle actually addresses this in his Dark Knight video.
It's only illegal if done by police
@@tfordham13I think if the police obtain evidence that is knowingly illegally acquired, it becomes fruit of the poison tree in essence and therefore inadmissible.
Think of it like theft by possession of stolen property. “*I* didn’t steal this stuff, but I know it was stolen and I accepted it anyway.”
batman has Camera eyes would proply count the same as police evidence just like if you video taped a crime on your doorbell camera . As long as he brings air tight police work . He is basically a real detective just not sworn in to the police force they could always say he is a deputied to act as a bounty hunter type 🤔.
Rip Kevin Conroy you will be missed ❤️
Beyond just the legal side, this kid's show episode does the "Batman made his enemies" angle better than 90% of the gritty depictions of Batman tackling that theme.
Animated? Yes.
On an afternoon block after Tiny Toon Adventures? Very much so.
"Kid's show"? That's a stretch.
@@HisVirusness This is definitely the kiddie version of Batman. It makes the comics look mature.
@@alphanerd7221 Depends on which era and series you are talking about. Even then, blame that on the Batman show of the 60's.
Watch the episode On Leather Wings. That Man-Bat transformation was nightmare fuel for adults, much less kids!
This show does almost everything related to Batman better than 90% of the gritty depictions.
The judges wording sending Ivy back to Arkham makes it sound like she broke out previously (which is common for Batman's Rogues Gallery), so she's being returned to continue her previous sentance.
But if the Arkham staff hadn't declared her fit to release then even if she did stand trial she still would have been declared unfit, so no matter who brought her in it's back to Arkham for her.
@@wendyheatherwood True. But procedurally, I don't think that would prevent her from standing trial for new crimes, so she should be brought before a judge for that, as happens here. It's just that this judge confusingly goes "LEO didn't bring you in, so there's no case."
Which wouldn't that ruling then be grounds to try to get her previous case that got her sent to Arkham in the first place appealed and overturned?
In Lock-up's episode didn't the news mentioned she escaped?
I just love how Batman sits there tied up, not attempting to free himself at all, not saying anything just quietly watching as these guys go on with their little justice charade
Nothing is more adorable than nostalgic excitement. You watching the batman intro is very relatable.
"In Batman the Animated Series, I don't think anyone actually dies."
Except Bruce Wayne's parents, of course.
According the the DCAU Wiki, excluding Robin's parents, 5+ people die. Less than I thought honestly.
Oof, he’s an orphan
it's the uncle ben clause... those characters must always die
and the Joker
Everytime
As for why the criminals didn’t just kill Batman at first, them being insane is obvious but Two-Face did say he voted to just shoot him but lost the coin toss.
Yeah and this is clearly a Joker move where the spectacle is more important than the outcome - he wants the world to appear broken and nonsensical. He definitely could get enough of them along. The Riddler needs to beat Batman as part of his obsession, Harley would follow him, Killer Croc isn't bright, Harvey has his own pathology, scarecrow and hatter both require their tech and time to set-up to be dangerous, but I don't know how they convinced Ivy, though the Joker could.
@@danielmorton9956 I dont recall the episode but for what its show in this video the episode used Ivy to show how the supervillians feel when they were in trail. So, she probably is in board to the idea of being in the other side of the trial and give back the pain she suffered. And its interesting to see that the trial against Bastman is how the justice system feel for alot of people
I feel like this equally argues for and against the criticism: Harvey raises the prudent solution, but defers to the coin’s prerogative 😆
@@danielmorton9956 Also.... you can take the approach of "we'll kill him if he tries to escape".
@@danielmorton9956 They all just want to kill him (except perhaps Harl) but they want to first humilliate him, to feel the empowering feeling of being the autority for once, is as simple as that.
@ 17:24
Fun Fact: Gotham is actually in New Jersey and Metropolis is right across the bay in Delaware.
Love your channel, have to let you know, people do die in batman TAS! The writers weren’t able to come straight out and show or say it, but any time you see someone “paralyzed” with the joker gas, that person was actually killed by it.
Objection: Gotham is canonically in new jersey (not NY or IL). During the time of Batman: The animated series, NJ had the death penalty. Also, historically, every execution after 1909 in NJ was done by the electric chair. Therefore, it is very likely that if Batman were to be executed in Gotham, it would have been by electric chair.
In Comics there is (or was until recently) death penalty in Gotham, a villian named Galvan was a murderer who survives the chair and actually gains electric powers, then he hunts down the witnesses to his execution while Batman, Robin and another vigilante try to stop him.
I was going to bring (most) of this up. While there are elements of Gotham that may lead you to believe it represents NYC or Chicago it is in fact neither. It is the hellscape that is New Jersey. NYC and Chicago, among others, still exist in the DC universe and even have their own resident superheroes.
Overrruled: This incarnation *is* set in New York, as seen on Charlie Collins’ license in “Joker’s Favor”.
@@BlackCover95 Oh, solid evidence, because _no one_ has ever crossed the George Washington bridge before. >_>
I would also suggest that in a medieval mental institution which houses super criminals with super powers that electric shock treatment would not be unexpected. It could even be expected that some criminals were probably created at least partially with shock treatment, causing their insanity. In fact, several story lines are about Arkham doctors that performed experimental and illegal treatments on inmates, almost always resulting in making patients worse.
"Will Batman get a happy ending from me..."
Gives Batman a D.
Devin knew what he was doing.
Phrasing
*Oh my*
Technically a D-, which I've seen some people claim is equal to 8.
Batman's cowl is designed that way for a reason 😏
"Even though this is New York State..."
Objection! Gotham is actually in New Jersey.
That was actually pretty neat, I've seen educational uses of Law & Order, but actually seeing it applied to a Batman episode was a treat.
"Is someone supposed to be writing this down?"
How is the Joker not familiar with court proceedings? He must've been on trial a hundred times!
Well it's the Joker who given his insanity would likely not notice or care about something so mundane. Also as the Joker he is going to be looking to say something funny even if its only funny to him.
@@oneearrabbit Doubtful. The joker is all about "look at me" so he would take note of his actins being recorded.
That's a big maybe, @@oneearrabbit. We could see a flamboyant egotist thinking certain common knowledge is beneath him having need of, sure. Joker's a smart foe, though, so you'd expect him to know the basics. How about if we just figure he's joking? :-)
he is also nuts sooo there is not much caring for his item
Um, he's certifiably insane? So......there ya go. Can't pay attention to everything!
Unless your talking the Heath Ledger/Dark Knight Joker, because how the heck DID he plan all that without something going wrong?!?!?!?!?! lol
"Record? Is someone supposed to be writing this down?"
God the Joker is funny even when not joking.
OBJECTION!
The Joker is always Joking!
@@christianali5431 OVERRULED! He never jokes when it comes to paying taxes. I refer you to:
"I'm crazy enough to take on Batman but the IRA, no thank you."
@@666Vampirefromhell You mean IRS? IRA is... well.... a terrorist organization.
@@marhawkman303 unless joker owned money to the mobs?
@@alexanderhood8993 I mean, possible sure... but they're not known to operate in Gotham.
You should really read the graphic novel that came out a few years ago "Batman: White Knight" ... REALLY good and on-topic for sure! Basically, Batman is apprehended for all the laws he's broken trying to hunt down these criminals. Joker actually "cleans up" a bit and studies law in order to defend himself and then goes on to become Mayor of Gotham! All sort of other things happen and I'd LOVE to hear your take on the graphic novel. Sadly it's not in video form yet (to my knowledge) so that makes it a little more difficult though. Seriously, REALLY good read!
“Record ? Is someone supposed to be writing this down! ? “ 😂😂
The greatest thing about this is that Batman could have absolutely escaped whenever he wanted to. He's entirely capable of doing so. He let this trial take place on purpose😂
of course, it's one of the oldest escape tricks.
Exactly as he could have at any time in Justice League, but chose to play them off one against the other first, gifting the Ultrahumanite that donation to NPR for continued airplay of classical music.
Facts
Press F to doubt
@@CherryFlavoredFox0180 F
Objection: The presence of the Bat Signal and the general co-operation of the police renders Batman a state actor. Batman is probably obliged to observe civil rights in detaining the various villains. Failure to do so probably taints the arrests.
For real. He's essentially a government contractor who charges nothing. The real person who should be on trial is Commissioner Gordon for allowing Batman to behave in a way a police officer wouldn't.
@@SomeRUclipsTraveler they should make a movie about THAT
@@SomeRUclipsTraveler a contractor who charges nothing.
Love that line.
Yeah he's pretty clearly deputized. In regards to civil rights, he only has to mirandize them if he's going to conduct a custodial interrogation
@@SomeRUclipsTraveler "A government contractor" implies that the police requested his missions and was able to issue orders to him, which I don't think they did. Without them asking, hell even if they asked him to stop, he would still continue to do what he did, so he was not a contractor.
That's not to mention even if he ha had been a contractor, offering to do illegal contracts still make you a criminal, even if the government hired you.
16:44-*Patrick:* SpongeBob, what happened?
*SpongeBob:* ... Joker cheated.
Came here because of the recent news of Kevin Conroy. Your stuff is fantastic, now I'm interested in seeing more of you lawyer stuff, thanks! 🙂
‘Batman: The Animated Series’ is a show for adults that wouldn’t exist if it hadn’t been marketed as a kids’ show.
decades were different, I grew up on the TAS era of superheroes and i turned out ok.
Yet as an 8 year old my mom let me watch certain cartoon episodes (cow and chicken no smoking).
She was quite liberal eventhough she knew nothing of what was on tv, especially CN and the other channels
To me it comes accross like a watered down comic book for kids. But I mean that in a good way. This is better than most cartoons today and I don't think a raw show would be as digestable as this cartoon is. I feel like kids would learn something and not be board
It is a perfectly fine kid show. Kid were once damn good.
Plenty of TV and films of old are officially marketed differently to the anticipated market.
Even in the 90s kids were watching stuff not officially approved for their age, yet toys were still marketed towards kids for the same films and such. 😅
I liked it as a kid cause it didn't talk down to me as a child.
“Did they sneak in some adult jokes into this kid’s show?” Considering it was made in the 90s, 100 percent.
And objection: considering the judge is the Joker, he would do something completely random or bizarre like this when he’s captured Batman
Oh the history of adult jokes in kid cartoons goes back to the beginning.
@@ChaosKeep yeah, this was more "teen" than "kids" so it makes a lot more sense when you realize the target audience is 13 and older.
@@marhawkman303 I was thinking more the cartoons I watched in the 70's, most of which were from the 30's and 40's when you include the Loony Toons.
@@ChaosKeep Right, the original Looney Tunes weren't made for kids at all. Just check out the WW2 ones... Bugs Bunny straight up killed people on occasion.
Even kid's shows produced much later have some adult material in them.
My first piece of evidence: Cure Honey from Happiness Charge Precure. During her transformation, she poses provocatively, for one. She also wears a mini skirt, without any of the show's staples like tulle or bike shorts underneath. Plus, she can access two alternate forms, those being the cheerleader-themed Popcorn Cheer and the samba-themed Coconuts Samba. Her ability to fly doesn't make things any better. And lastly, she can magically produce any length of ribbon, primarily to restrain opponents.
Conclusion: Toei Animation knew exactly what they were doing.
Rest in peace, Kevin Conroy.
I love how the theme got him excited I looked up Danny Elf man’s work and holy shut he wrote the theme song of my childhood
It's likely the episode is heavily referencing the classic German film "M", where the criminal underworld hold a full trial, including providing the accused with an attorney. One worth reviewing on this show I think!
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That's sounds like a great idea for a video! Hope he does it!
Now I have a new movie to check out. Thank you! :D
I was about to suggest the movie M
That sounds lawful enough to be right
"Did they shoehorn that into a children's cartoon?"
The answer that that is almost always YES. There are lots of under the radar adult jokes and references in kids entertainment, especially the older stuff.
Much more common in 90s to early 2000s than now at least. Now it seems like any shoehorning of stuff like that gets instantly attacked and reticuled
" I found Prince!"
" No... fingerprints."
"I don't think so."
@@fusionwing4208 You haven't watched a lot of modern animation, have you? Mature subjects have gotten more common, not less. You don't hear about them as often since there's nothing shocking or surprising about them, any more.
Nobody can tell me those old original cartoonists and animators from the original Scooby-doo series in the 60s and 70s, didn't have some freaky agenda with how often they depicted Daphne being abducted and left somewhere tied up by the bad guy
@PaddyOFurniture Not just Scooby-Doo. Many old cartoons, even up to the 80s and 90s had 'damsel' scenes. The old Superman cartoons with Lois Lane, TMNT with April O'Neil, Inspector Gadget with Penny, etc.
15:33
I'm pretty sure Scarface and the Ventriloquist were the Bailiff.
When he said "you're probably an adult" I went "no" before remembering that I in fact am and have been for a pretty long time now...
"when they finally have the upper hand, they put on a trial instead of unmasking him"
its almost like they're not in full control of their mental faculties and should be in a mental asylum or something...
Plus joker is the judge, you think he'd let anyone unmask batman in his courtroom?
@@bgill6623 "WHERE'S MY GODDAMN ELECTRIC CAR, BRUCE?"
@@LunarOverdrive "THAT WAS RHETORICAL ASSHOLE!"
oh, The Joker already knew who Batman is. Deadpool told him and showed him some pics and vids.
Joker probably threatened to kill anyone who revealed Batman's identity.
as someone who has been in a mental institution and has deeply looked into their history, asylums very much did look and function like high-security prisons up until the early 2000s and were very torturous to their patients
I was institutionalized a few times in the ‘90s & early 2000s. Can confirm-These places are horrific.
@@grahamstrouse1165 not entirely anymore, there are good ones out there, but there are still plenty of bad ones. at least some progress is being made.
Actually in the US most of these old asylums have been dismantled in the last two decades. However, since the US has always had little to no regard to healthcare and especially mental health care the most common provider of mental healthcare in the US are in fact prisons.
@@tranquilthoughts7233 good to know that they're gone, but it's very unfortunate that the replacement isn't much better. mental healthcare is healthcare - it's in the name - and it needs a lot more resources put into it, at least in the US
@@ouroya Actually the replacement is arguably worse. Because while mental healthcare itself has improved by leaps and bounds, in order for a menatlly ill person to get that healthcare they first need to get arrested and sent to prison. And the prison system in the US is downright medieval. In fact just being in a US prison can be enough to CAUSE mental disorders. And to put the cherry on top, as with everything regarding prisons in the US the mental healthcare department too is usually severly underfunded.
To get good mental healthcare in the US you first need to sift through an ocean of what is essentially mental healthcare scam to find the actually medically grounded providers, an endeavour that is dificult even for experts in the field, and then you usually have to pay a shitload of money because the US healthcare system in generel is just one giant shitshow.
In the original live action TV show, Batman was portrayed as being in cooperation with Gotham City Police. He wasn't as much of a vigilante. He also had vast knowledge of the law and would always do his best to obey it. That version was a much better role model.
Hearing him joke about "going from the jury to the witness stand" actually made me think about a moment from a phoenix wright case that is arguably more ridiculous.
In it, at one point a jury member turns out to have been an indirect witness and even a contributor to the assault on trial (she was fighting with her husband in her apartment and one of the objects thrown went out a window and hit someone, and ppl thought it was a murder) so she goes from being in the jury, being on the witness stand, being on the witness stand WITH HER HUSBAND, and finally her husband taking her place on the jury because she fainted.
It's... its a clusterfuck.
Objection:
When saying "I have no reason to believe why the other prisoners should be in an asylum" the first footage you show is of the Ventriloquist, but the Ventriloquist is by far the _most_ likely to be rehabilitated out of all of Batman's rogues. The Scarface criminal part of his personality is completely separate from his normal personality to the point that they can even keep secrets and lie to each other. The Ventriloquist was coerced under the threat of death, if you could get rid of or weaken the Scarface persona then the Ventriloquist would happily live within the confines of the law. This is even shown in a later episode when he _does_ reform himself as a children's entertainer until some of his old goons force Scarface back into the picture.
This was in the new Batman comic too.
I'm referring to the Batman: The Adventures Continue comic, of course. Great read.
Hell, in the other universe, he's perfectly sane after Superman lobotomized the puppet
There was also an episode of "The New Batman Adventures" (the sequel series to B:TAS) where his reformation actually stuck after he destroyed Mr. Scarface himself.
Irrelevant.
The plea of Insanity isn't based on the likelihood of you being redeemed by mental health care, or even of you actually having any particular symptom. It is based on an evaluation of your ability to understand and choose your course of action.
As far as it goes, the persona Scarface may be its own thing, but is still capable of both comprehending his actions, understanding they're wrong and deciding to act or not. Then it is guilty, mental problem or not.
Some Batman villains are indeed Insane by the law. Poison Ivy is actually a better example. Her empathy system is messed up, making her feel kinship with plants where a normal brain would feel with humans, she have a hard time understanding why she can't value plants more than people, and she is prone to fits of rage and other ill thought actions where it is arguable if she really have the ability to chose not to act.
Most people actually found to be insane are far from the popular picture of insanity, being frequently cold, rational and open about their crimes. Yet they give no plausible reason.
Poison Ivy and Two-Face are Insane. Harley, Joker, Ventriloquist and Mad Hatter are not.
If I remember, in this show, the Ventriloquist did get rehabilitated, briefly reverting before being rehabilitated for good.
"Hit him with a rock!"
Make sure it's a big rock.
If it were a very small rock it would float.
Would've been funny if it was just Batman in the Croc costume again, and they were all too scared of Croc to check.
I always liked that callback to one of my favorite episodes. :D
Or hit him with The Rock? :D
OBJECTION! 17:14 Gotham is supposed to be in New Jersey, which had the death penalty up until 2007 (this episode aired in 1994). Additionally, I think Arkham was supposed to be modeled after some super old school Shutter Island style insane asylum and that batman was being strapped to a device used for electro shock therapy.
Did homeboy just say no one died in BTAS?….
Objection
About your point at the end and Batmans crimes:
This is actually an interesting point throughout the comics and series.
Everyone knows what Batman does is illegal.
However Batman is so helpful by keeping order in Gotham that he is considered "lower priority" - Meaning if someone actually manages to catch the bat randomly, he will be brought to trial for his crimes (if you can also keep him).
But as long as there is still more dangerous criminals on the loose, there will be no special force who will specialise on capturing the Bat.
As Batman said in the end, he works for a Gotham that doesn't need him.
I may be misremembering things, but didn't the 60s show have Gordon pretty much say that Batman and by proxy Robin were basically deputies to the Gotham police force?
@@CMWaters Yeah, Batman and Robin were actually deputized in the 60s show, and some of the older comics from the 40s-60s.
Then they made him a vigilante again
Batman wasn't low priority in all of these series. I don't know if it was this one or another one I watched, but there was an episode where he was top priority for the DA and police force. The Joker had been let out of Arkham for a big TV interview on some famous talk show. He was escorted there, by a doctor who believed he was a good man who turned bad because of Batman. During the interview, the host offered him a special mug of coffee or water or something. The Joker picked it up and smashed it onn the desk. Then he proceeded to slash the doctor's throat with the shard he still had in his hand. Then he killed the host and called on his minions to lock the doors and gas the entire audience. The show was running live and everyone watching witnissed this incredibly brutal murder take place.
Meanwhile, Batman, who had heard that the Joker was out and doing this show, was outside desperately trying to make it to the studio in time to save everyone, but was thwarted by the cops who were out in massive force to try and capture him.
The whole episode was so depressing to me. I couldn't believe the DA was so backward=thinking that she would think that Batman was worse than the guy who would murder an entire roomful of people while laughing hysterically!
@@simoneanne01 that is in The Dark Knight Returns Pt 2 I believe.
the very Gotham police commit so many crimes even before batman, because the mafia bought/threatened them, Batman end up allowing the good cops to do their job without being threatened by the criminals
Re: Ivy at the beginning - She was likely *already* serving a sentence in Arkham, broke out, committed a murder or attempted murder, was caught by Batman, and because, for some wild reason, they can't convict her of her new crime since Batman caught her, she's being returned to finish her sentence in Arkham.
Yeah this isn't the first time she's been apprehended.
Also it's a mental institute designed for people who are very dangerous in their insanity and highly likely to hurt others.
I mean her whole thing is being an ecoterrorist. She's pretty much THE Batman villain most capable of, and most willing to, engage in acts of mass murder.
@@MangoJester yeah, well... the weird thing with Ivy is she usually has killing people as plan B though. she does some really crazy stuff, but she doesn't usually start with murder.
@@MangoJester umm... Joker anyone? He'd commit mass murder for the lulz.
Interestingly, in her first appearance in the series, she winds up incarcerated at Stone Gate Penitentiary, even though she was apprehended by Batman. So what happened to the rules in Gotham between these episodes?
That jury looks completely fair to me 😂
10:14 that’s the one big gavel.
"Batman is not being judged by a jury of his peers." Is there really another panel of people that are closer to Batman mentally though? 🤣
The Justice League!
Also, what is the jurisdiction of this court ? If its Arkham Asylum, wouldn't a jury of his peers be exactly composed of villains ??
the justice league
The Batfamily
@@darlalathan6143 The Justice League is made up of people that worked with Batman closely, and generally look up to him as one of the founding leaders, so they'd be biased.
the reason Ivy is sent to Arkham is that she was already serving a sentence at Akrham, while yes saying that because they were apprehended by Batman they can't do anything is false, they aren't sentencing her here, they're effectively saying "We can't sentence you to anything however you are indeed supposed to be serving a sentence and we can still return you to that"
Not only that but Ivy is still presumably serving the sentence from her original first crime: The attempted murder of Harvey Dent! First degree attempted murder has an life sentence with the possibility of parole. So that could be the sentence they're referring to.
@@greatprofessorbias414 Ivy's actually sentenced to serve time in Stonegate Penitentiary for attempting to murder Harvey, not Arkham Asylum.
Did Batman create the villains?...
(Animated Series only)
Joker: ?
Penguin: Family becomes bankrupt.
Riddler: Game company steals his idea and fires him
Catwoman: Just a thief
Two-Face: Captured by mobsters and was caught in an explosion. (Batman did have some part in this)
Poison Ivy: Attacking company owners that threatened trees, plants etc.
Killer Croc: Skin condition caused him to look like a reptile
Mad Hatter: Obsessed with a female colleague.
Scarecrow: Had been studying the effects of Fear before Bruce Wayne became Batman.
Mr Freeze: Was trying to save his wife.
So yeah... Batman had no part in them becoming villains
the Riddler has the most legit reason to be a supervillain ever. I can't think of anything more fitting.
The penguin have the same origins story, that the penguin in Batman Returns
Where the hell did you heard that the Cobblepot's have been bankrupt ?
@@Dr.Thirteen Batman does save his former employer then later on quips that the man can't sleep because he can never be sure if the Riddler will ever go after him again.
"How much is a good night's sleep worth? Now there's a riddle for you."
7:35 Well, they are crazy.
Batman: The animated series was without a doubt one of the best cartoons shows ever, not just great voice actors, but great storylines, character arcs, and dialogue.
It's okay.
Plus the sequel/spinoff Batman Beyond.
I actually don’t like the voices besides Mark Hamill… not even Batman… though Conroy sounds better later in the Arkham games.
It's totally worth tracking down the _Batman Beyond: Revenge of the Joker_ movie. Make sure you get the uncensored version --- 91% on rottentomatoes!
Not to mention the best Theme music.
"Why isn't this kangaroo court following legal procedure?!" -Legal Eagle
I am frankly astonished there hasn't been a Batman villain or villain team named Kangaroo Court.
@@Vesperitis There's a Ben 10 villain named Captain Kangaroo
I think it's fun showing what laymen would miss about Kangaroo courts even when they're obviously. We see enough of them in media its helpful knowing details on why they aren't legit.
@@Vesperitis Spider-man has a villain named the Kangaroo.
Why isn't this kangaroo court presided by a kangaroo?
I love everything about this episode! I Didn't think you could be much better and THEN There was the scrubs reference in the add!!!!! LOL AWSOME!!
@12:18 I love how even the joker is like "eh this guy is creeping me out"
Pretty sure the nonsequitor was "We are sending you BACK to Arkham" in the sense that she escaped and didn't finish serving an allotted time there that she was mandated to.
Maybe they're saying that because Batman did the arrest they can't sentence them again, and all they can do is just send them back to arkham to continue a previous sentence that was cut short by their escape. Still not a good real world argument, and it doesn't make sense that they even got to the judge if that's the case. But i think it makes a bit of sense in the weird comic book world of gotham.
It's probably because she _escaped_ from Arkham in the first place.
It's an asylum for the criminally insane, not a prison. She's not serving a term, she's supposed to stay here until she's cured, or until the next budget cut, whichever comes first.
@@felixcohen1247 But if she was in Arkham before, isn't it presumably because Batman caught her the first time? He seems to be the only guy in the city who can stop criminals in weird costumes.
2:45 I think the key missing information here is that she _escaped_ from the asylum, was caught by Batman while she was attempting to do "something" worthy of life imprisonment, and since she "cannot be prosecuted" she is instead being _returned_ to the asylum (so as not to absolve her of the reason(s) she was sent there in the first place); *_not_* having a new separate sentence sending her there because of the actions she did while being captured by Batman. It is implied in this series that at some point ALL of the villains have been in Arkham Asylum and have escaped *many* times for various reasons.
And that most of them have committed multiple murders at some point, Joker especially.
Yeah essentially Arkham is the time out room for Gotham villains, they’ll be out causing mayhem in a month or so.
and the reason Arkham looks more like a prison than a medical facility is because it's full of insane theme criminals who keep escaping, so they've made it more prison-like in a (futile) attempt to keep said loonies inside.
The first introduction of Poison Ivy had her turn people (usually associated with eco crimes) into literal tree statues. Similar to Medusa.
@@thevine2010 I thought that episode happened later and her introduction was when she tried to poison Harvey Dent when she was dating him.
The electric chair isn't for execution. It used to be common practice to attempt to rehabilitate inmates through "electro-shock therapy", which used a modified electric chair or electrodes stabbed directly into the brain to apply voltage. The intent was that through controlled application of electric shocks, a person could be reprogrammed through negative reinforcement or selective lobotomy.
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"This definitely looks like a prison"
I think the depiction of Arkham is quite realistic. Have you ever seen the Broadmoor Mental Hospital?
I agree
Or Bedlam hospital
Is it cannon that Arkham was a really old mental hospital where there where basicly prisons? Also the fact the get the super villain crazy need to be more prison like to keep them from braking out ( like the actual try at all anymore)
It’s supposed to be that way, that’s why the reason some of them are there is lenient. Though I would say the majority of them are actually not mentally stable
Joker, two face, riddler, Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, Scarface, Mad hatter, and even Ivy to an extent.
And Clay-face, and Croc in some continuities
@@legolad7477 In media outside of BTAS, Croc is considered legally sane and does his time at Blackgate Prison. It’s also worth noting that in the show that’s where the Penguin is sent.
to be fair the "electric chair" is actually an electroshock therapy table, which does fit as being in an asylum such as arkham.
I should point out that since Arkham is an asylum, that's most likely a shock therapy table, not an electric chair.
Judge Joker: *Breathes*
Lawyer: That's incorrect!
Something to bear in mind during the opening scene: the Gotham City justice system is corrupt AF and the judge may or may not be in the pocket of the mafia. They'd probably have no issue sending supervillains to an easily escapable insane asylum if it meant spiting Batman for his attempts at curtailing organized crime.
@Max Powers We do, but they're a bit less well known. In Batman Begins, Judge Faden is content to have dinner with some young women in a bar owned by mob boss Carmine Falcone while Falcone points a gun at Bruce Wayne and threatens to murder him and his loved ones, then has his goons beat the shit out of him before throwing him out. Faden sees all of this, and does nothing. Later, Batman finds "dirt" on Faden and uses it to coerce him into presiding over Falcone's trial. That's a good example of how the legal system, at that time, was so corrupt that it took someone breaking laws in order to fix it. If the Judge is bribed/blackmailed by the mob, he's not likely to be much help.
Something similar happens in Batman: Year One, when the biggest problem in Gotham is the corrupt police department who are actively involved in crimes and later kidnap James Gordon's infant daughter in an attempt to blackmail him. Thankfully, Batman finds the crocked cops, beats them up, and returns Gordon's daughter to him.
@@marvelsandals4228 I don't remember Judge Faden showing up again after the "people like you always have something to lose" scene. The pictures Batman gives Rachel are for evidence against Falcone, in order to provide a rock-solid argument in court. (Which is still illegal, because it violates search and seizure without a judge first signing a search warrant, but eh.) If anything, dirt on Faden would've been used to force him to recuse himself so that a non-corrupt judge could preside over Falcone's trial, or as a basis for going after Faden himself.
It's a consistent problem with Batman that the judicial system is thoroughly outmatched by supervillainy. Like, imagine if the mob had been faced with the task force in The Wire.
@@Duiker36 I recall Batman asking Gordon what it would take to bring Carmine Falcone down, and Gordon said leverage on Judge Faden and a DA brave enough to prosecute. Then Batman gave Rachel pictures I presume of Judge Faden having an affair or something (maybe he was with a prostitute or an underage girl, but the details aren't important). The implication there is that these pictures served as the leverage on Judge Faden Gordon had mentioned before. I suppose it is possible that Faden simply recused himself so a different Judge (not in cahoots with by Falcone) would preside over his trial, but the point remains: it took an outsider bending the rules to "fix" a broken system.
That, and likely pull a "Spectacular Spider-Man" Tombstone, and make sure Batman is distracted by Supervillains, so the mooks can get their crime on.
this such a smart take youre so right.
I like how we're talking about the validity of a court case that is being put on almost entirely by madmen, criminals, and murderers. I was absolutely shocked to find they didn't have a fair and accurate trial.
But they did have a fair trial...
The trial was fair, the jury came out with a verdict of "not guilty", despite the fact that every single one of them were personally injured, on multiple occasions, by the defendant.
Granted, they decided to kill him anyway, but they are villains who have been trying to do that for years, so it could be argued that they handed out no punishment via the court, and then went on to do their normal business.
0:57 "no one ever dies in BTAS"
Wow, in the first minute the video we've already casually unpersoned Bruce Wayne's parents and Annie (I'm still mad af about that one) and probably a few others.
Man, it never gets old hearing Mark Hamill playing the Joker.
This was one of my favorite episodes. I loved how the lawyer changed her view on Batman after really getting a view the villains. Even saying “I honestly thought Batman created all of you. But it's clear that of all YOU created HIM”.
More accurately, the villains created the NEED for someone like him, but the overall point still stands.
@@louisduarte8763 The wording tends to wildly apply in either case.
I think this is just a trope that happens all the time in Superhero comics: "Create Your Own Villain/Create Your Own Hero." Either a hero is born and the villains only show up to make him more competent, or the Hero ends up becoming one in order to stop a villain they accidentally caused to exist as a result of disregarding the life of another. Or both.
Pick any Spider-man/Hulk/Wolverine/Ghost Rider/Avengers comic and the rest of the argument speaks for itself.
"But will he get a happy ending from me?" And now that sound clip is out in the world.
Here's what LegalEagle said [out of context].
18:04
If he hadn't called attention to it himself I never would have noticed.
Batman/Legal Eagle slash fic incoming :D
@3:14 so i did some digging and arkham is both a "mental institute" and a "prison".
so yeah thats why it looks that way because it is a prison.
@17:59 "batman doesn't kill he just causes very severe brain injury's" so probably the people he doesn't beat up lol.
Just watched this episode, and I'm so glad there was a video here for it.
I like how he shouts out the creators. Animated shows don’t always get the recognition they should
TBF, the creators for Batman: TAS is talked about a lot. In fact Bruce Timm was the one who created the Original DC Animated Universe that included Batman, Superman, Static Shock, Batman Beyond, and Justice League.
Bruce Timm and Paul Dini are quite legendary in their field.
Mark Hamil is a legendary Joker. He is the iconic voice and has perfected the character.
Still the best no matter the rest
I like how Croc brings up hitting Batman with a rock, which is, I think, a callback to "Almost Got Him". Or "Almost Got Him" is a callback to this episode. I don't remember which one was first.
13:25 Harley❗️ Hold that pose, till I figure out how that suit comes off.💜😈
Pretty sure this was a 'kangaroo court' setting from the getgo: I mean, we have a jury of villains who already want Batman dead, A clown with the gavel, hell, the only one here who is even qualified to the the job is Two Face, but even I cannot say Harvey's the one doing the job in this instance. But honestly, still a good Batman: TAS episode.
Totally agree
And this is based on a comic where Batman is put on trial by The Joker and the jury is made up of henchmen dressed like The Joker. They called it a Joker Jury.
@@ElFino013 Well son of a bitch, learn something new every day.
Objection: The story was written to explicitly take place in a kangaroo court, therefore things such as the impartial jury being portrayed in-universe as unfair should grant it points rather than get it docked points, as it accurately reflects that such a scenario is entirely inappropriate within a court of law.
If you're saying that something is unfair and inappropriate in a court of law, then that to me is saying that it's legally inaccurate to how a real trial is meant to function. And, thus, it should be docked points.
I really wished that episode of Harley Quinn would've been a full court episode so he could've reviewed it. I still like the story with Bane and the pit though
@@kyuubinaruto17 Basically:
In real court, this shit wouldn't fly.
In this universe, in these circumstances, surrounded by insane murderers and supervillains who have no legal knowledge or experience besides Harvey Dent = then yes, these events are probably accurate as all hell.
@@kyuubinaruto17 No, its legally accurate because kangaroo courts do exists.
@@peach1205 its a lot like the movie M.
Objection: since the Arkham asylum is a very old institution they would have electroshock therapy facilities that can be easily converted to an electric chair. That is made more clear if you notice that it is a bed and not a chair.