Make Your Own Graphene Supercapacitor With Our Kit
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2018
- We have put together a kit to try and help you investigate building supercapacitors - To support the Twizy Roadtrip and find the kit go to
www.indiegogo.com/projects/fw... OR to buy materials for your own experiments, go to www.workingink.co.uk.
the kit contains
Graphene
Ketjen 600
5 micrometer graphite
coconut activated carbon
CMC/SBR binder
Casein/Silicate binder
Celgard 3501
graphoil (flexible graphite foil)
Supercapacitors 101
stirrers, gloves, pipettes 
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Half inch by half inch Supercap producing such energy in the motor. That's a joy. Nothing as inspirational as a test in reality. Well done Robert.
cheers mate
Robert is truly the super capacitor Jesus, here he is giving out knowledge for free which many companies have spend millions on and still couldn't achieve, keep up the awesome work and can't wait for FWG batteries powering the world.
cheers mate
broli123 some people are visionary
Does this mean we need to crucify him?
Another fantastic video Robert! You are doing great work for these folks to try to get some hands on experience.
cheers mate
Thanks again very much for sharing your knowledge and expertise. What you've discovered and you're discovering week by week is most certainly going to be beneficial worldwide.
As usual ingenious and best. Love your work Mr. Robert.
First thing I watched after coming home from work! Feel refreshed!
Awesome stuff Rob. Thanks mate
awesome mate - cheers
So cool Robert. Good to see you. It's been a while. Keep up the awesome work you do sir.
You have upgraded your lab and channel quite a lot since the last time... Excellent job! Cheers!
Hi Rob, your videos are so incredible inspiring for me. I am currently doing my first trials and thanks to your videos it was already a success. Only with the electrolyte i am struggling a bit because i used natrium chlorid instead of natriumsulfate, which lead to a big leak current as well as to a 0,5V cap limit voltage.
It amazes me every time you flip a switch in that tiny tiny postage stamp-sized capacitor runs a motorized device like that it boggles my mind how that tiny thing can store that much energy. The word supercapacitor doesn't really even do it justice it's absolutely amazing to me every time I see this.I have not been doing this work anymore I've had a lot of health problems and I've been doing more therapeutical things like I do pottery now and I realize I have almost every single chemical that you ever bring up in my pottery supplies. I had a lump of zinc and I needed some sink two then convert to zinc oxide so I have about 2 gallons of zinc sulfate solution sitting on my bench in my basement.the only thing I cannot find is grafoil when I look up grafoil I get valve packing supplies are strips of material I think that are packed with graphite. I may have to visit your store after all
lol - please do mate www.workingink.co.uk
@@ThinkingandTinkering thank you very much Robert I appreciate that
Unfortunately, all this valuable information I didn't notice as many views ... Thank you Robert Murray-Smith
Great stuff Robert. I hope the folk write down their experimental methods carefully so we can repeat their success's.
Thanks love your videos they are a treasure of information, the only I could say is excellent 👍🏼I will get the kit, since I was a child have been fascinated by electricity and electronics
WahhoW AWSOME, I really wasn’t expecting THAT , and so lite , it’d power a mountain bike up a mountainside at speed 🥳🥳😊
Marvelous Kit Rob. Best of luck with the campaign too.
cheers mate
I just ordered some graphene and some of your flake graphite. I can't wait to experiment with it. I've been making my own activated carbon next to Llyn Crafnant, a Welsh mountain lake. Between that view and your vids I have inspiration aplenty. Thanks for your sharing the fruits of your intellectual labours so readily.
I know mate - we sent it out this morning so you should get it in a day or two - good luck with it and keep me in loop will you?
Gerry, your wonderful scenery should inspire you! We used to love walking around that area- even if there was an abundance of 'liquid gold' in the air!
Will do, and thanks again (ingenuity AND great customer service doesn't grow on trees!).
By the way, you've also inspired us to talk to Snowdonia Park Authority about building a hidden hydroelectric set up to use some of the huge winter outflow of the lake by way of a Tesla turbine. Actually, come to think of it, there are quite a few projects slated for this summer in the valley of the wild garlic that have a Rob Murray-Smith YT video as their seed. FWG FTW!
We serve cracking home-baked cakes and tea, if you happen to want to shelter from the inevitable tears from Heaven. ;-)
great kit promoting what you've always supported "learn by experimenting"
cheers mate - it's something i think is important
Excellent! So many possibilities! Edison began a comprehensive test of all the carbon-based materials he could find. A bamboo sample taken from a ladies’ hand fan proved the best, due to the molecular structure of bamboo’s cellulose fibers. Edison’s light bulb with a bamboo-based carbon filament was introduced in 1880.
1% inspiration and all that lol
Thanks Rob. This should motivate a lot of people to 'get their hands dirty' and enjoy what Richard Feynman called 'The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out'.
I hope so mate
Looking awesome!
cheers mate
Awesome! Thanks Robert :)
cheers mate
I just supported the campaign by getting the battery kit. All the best!
awesome - cheers mate
Any comment on the kit a year later?
Excellent video
You're getting a cracking tan under that lamp Rob.
lol - best thing to do in winter mate - but then i do spend 16 hours a day under it lol
Excellent, thanks.
nyke - www.sparkbangbuzz.com
Jordan - - makezine.com/2013/08/08/making-transistors-out-of-iron-pyrite/
Thank you! I came to find the Indigo campaign listing because it doesn't show on my TV (as you stated..."below here")
cheers love!
Super stuff...but I like Hemp fiber vs Coconut. We don't have a lot of coconuts growing in Canada.... ;)
go for it mate
Your my Hero!
lol - cheers mate
And there is a lot of "Hemp" growing in Canada :)
Robert Murray-Smith you are a HEMP GENIUS
Excellent fellow.
its a genuinely good thing that he isnt keeping this informations for himself, hes lettying it out into the world, this is how innovation happens rather than one person giving companies exclusive knowledge and getting large sums of monmey for this knowledge they let the info out to stop it stagnating
Fascinating!
cheers mate
That is awesome.
cheers mate
Hello Rob, I'm new here but was absolutely hooked up immediately by your work. I'm curious why this kit is not available anymore for starters like me?
Another solid informative video. I love the way you are balancing education, marketing, and development all at the same time. Probably not much time left for sleep! I'm working through newbie questions - how do you know what voltage to charge a brand new device at? How do you know when it is fully charged? I haven't seen the information in your videos, but I'll keep looking! Thanks again for all your sharing!
it's a long explanation mate and one i am sure others will want to know the answer so i will get round to a video on this subject
Outstanding! Probably post twizzy ride and after you finish all the media superstar interviews that will generate.
lol
Hi rob I am so very sorry I really did not mean it in that way and apologise if you thought I would do that to your cell and you. I have nothing but admiration for the work you have done and what you have shared with us.
i never thought for a second you would mate - but if it were public i know for certain someone would
Just a big thanks... :D
cheers mate
Any ideas on the voltage at which the capacitor has charged?
Would adding a small amount of wetting detergent help with electrolyte penetration, I think a kelp seaweed surfactant solution at approx 2% by weight of water would lower the water surface tension significantly. just a thought...and yes once i have one of your kits i will try it.
As Rob would say, 'Try it, and let us know what happens!'. That's what he's been doing for maybe 35 years.
Just don't understand why companies still trying on lithium. This is awesome. Sometimes i think they are doing this just to justify the high prices on E.V.s. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
the capex required to produce Li-Ion is high mate - they have to get a return
The ugly secret of capitalism
I cannot find the kit or a price for it anywhere in the link provided.
Hi Robert, I'm stil intrigued by your experiments.
I was wondering, could you apply a low dc or maybe ac voltage to the grafene in liquid form
to line-up the grafene atoms, (like in crystal growth) to get uniform grafene?
maybe you could also get a better bonding of the grafene to the grafiol by apply a voltage.
There is a graphene production process that uses a noble gas environment nickel foil rolls soy oil and an 800 c heat element they peel off the graphene after it passes through the heater. but the conductivity was lower than other graphene sheets produced by other means. mixing the soy oil with graphene flakes and sonicating it or your idea to align the graphene may make it act like seed crystal growth and make better graphene.
Barksor is right mate - the best idea here is for you to give it a go
Hi Robert! First off, you are a total bad ass. I've got a very ambitious project and extremely little money, lol. Don't know if you read these or if you'd be willing to engage in a cheeky theoretical convo, but I'm trying to design a 333kwh energy storage system. This is not a commercial project and I have no intention to ever commercialize it. One of the dreams in my mad scientist mind is to make the little intentional community I'm joining fully and robustly energy dependent. I'm curious if you think graphene or any other super caps could be the answer. I keep hearing super capicitive battery tech hasn't been released cause they're having trouble making it "commercially viable". Personally suspicious this is more about patent shelving a better tech that would break their current income stream then it is about the inability to make it work. But I don't mind if it takes me and my community a year or more to manufacture enough cells, I just wanna accomplish the thing. Anyway, any tips would be so appreciated, and it'd just be a joy and honor to chat. Hope you're well. Keep up the spectacular channel.
Any plans for superconductor kits?
we could actually - especially with some of the doping we have been doing - interesting - i will think about it mate
robert, is it possible to charge a graphene battery with impulses? with bedini motor?
Do you have to limit the charge current? If you use a battery to charge it, what stops it from being a dead short initially?
I think it depends on how big you make them mate - the tiny ones you can make witht he kit won't really hurt a battery any thing large would really need charging froma power supply as you are quite right - nothing stops them from being a dead short initially - though thie is only about a second or two
Great stuff! Do you deliver the kits and inks worlwide?
yes mate we do
Robert Murray-Smith How do you get one J Skews
order one from the indiegogo site mate
Hi Robert - truly enjoy your videos and following your work. Hope your Twizzy has all the success it surely deserves.
I'm still learning and drinking from the fire hose as they say when it comes to chemistry so bear with my question.......
In this vid you comment on the advantages of the higher potential voltages of a zinc sulphate electrolyte vs. say the KOH.
1. Can you comment / help me understand if some of that advantage can be offset by the higher solubility (about 2:1) for KOH electrolytes?
2. Is there a reason for targeting 1 M solution and not higher ????
Thanks
Dennis
" Is there a reason for targeting 1 M solution and not higher?" Like a traffic jam, it just gets in the way of electron flow.
Barskor is spot on mate - most folks think more is better and chuck a load in - all that happens is one hell of a 'traffic jam' you do need to play with concentration but a 'guide' is 1M and go from there - down as well as up - some times 0.001M can make all the difference - it's often hard to say in general and specifically experimentation should be your 'go to'
Thank you again for your insight.
Thanks Robert - been playing with 5M KOH (read that somewhere) but we'll start anew with 1M.
can i use gum arabic as a binder instead of casein/silicate binder
Can’t seem to find your graphene kit on Indiegogo, is that the only one that sells it?
Jim
yes mate - it's there - it's the supercapacitor kit - it isn't specifically a graphene kit
Great video Rob! You sold me on getting that kit! I would thoroughly enjoy having everything ready to mix in cute clean little containers with little or no impurities. (And I was just about to order some sbr to experiment with anyways)
This kit is appealing to me now esspecially, because most of my difficulties arose from making things "cost efficient" and large scale. Buying in bulk, trying to make everything from the cheapest base form, building up or down, and most of time, i ended up with a lot of black paint (Luckily, it's my favorite color lol)
I planned to move to the more controlable and repeatable micro realm, but I've paused for a few months now while getting a more permanent house and "controlled" lab setup built. (Dogs are my life, single dog hairs are my bane) lol
This kit will definitely rekindle the micro battery and fungi lab spirit tho! And also give me a good baseline to compare the quality/performance of my future carbon concoctions. Thanks for all that you do FWG boys and gals, its what puts the pep in my step! Cheers mates!
awesome mate - you have to do a few vids though too lol
Robert Murray-Smith I always mean to make videos, but it's just me at the moment, and I often feel I can just record "it" when it's done, but then I just keep trying to improve it and it's never done. Or it busts into flames before I make a record of it lol with smart phones now it's becoming easier to just shoot a quick 2 min video, upload it, done! So I will make an effort to do that!
Any comments on the kit, a year later?
I'd like to order one of these kits. where can I order it pls ?
I have been following this channel for a few years. It seems to me you could use some production concepts and such to help boost manufacturing. I am not a physicist so I wouldn't be the one to develop energy density improvement or theory, but I am an engineer specializing in manufacturing. If you are in need of production concept development / improvements / implementation ideas I would like to connect.
Would gladly donate some of my extra time if provided more scope details & a problem description, but I have a pretty good idea of the mission so far.
You may be all setup with a plan, and are just following through - in that case I'm an eager future customer!
Let me know if there is a need in general manufacturing that can be met.
- PS are there intentions of becoming a publicly traded company in the future?
That is an awesome offer mate and i may well take you up on it - to be honest I haven't thought that far ahead - i guess if it gets big enough we might look at plc but right now - it's a bit early days to say
"let me illustrate" *draws* 😂
Robert, please turn on the subtitles in this film. :-)
ok mate - i do talk a bit quickly in this one and even so it is 23 mins long - sorry for that - a lot of info and not much time to pass it on
thanks !!! :-)
on my charts you might find that potassium bromide is a great electrolyte for carbon
Is it possible to use iodine?
see GreatScott's ludicrous priced 'New Supercapacitors will replace Batteries? Stress Testing LICs (Lithium-Ion Capacitors)'
& add your ultrabattery diy +felt for 50p lol
How much is the super capacitor kit
thanks Robert, but the link doesn't seem to work
it was broken i fixed it mate
What makes this battery with carbon and zinc in it different from the non-rechargeable "carbon-zinc" cheap batteries sold at regular supermarkets? Why can these be recharged, but the store-bought ones not be?
how cold of temps will this work at.
that will be up to you mate - you can try additives into the electrolytes and see what you get
Where can I get celgaurd 3501 separator?
I got a roll of Celguard on ebay...or buy Robert's kit ;)
@@insAneTunA i think you must be lost your way home..
Damnit, RUclips! RUclips just suddenly stopped suggesting any of your new videos to me. It kept showing vids I'd watched, vids at least a year old.
Yes, robby
This is. Your classic. Show
And then. You can only get better
The Battery master.
Keep on flying. Higher. Highly
Every day
You need to be from the U.K. to keep up with & understand some of the things this guy says lol.
The link is brokennnnnn
Also can I use PVDF or PVA as binder with NMP as solvent ?
absolutely mate
I corrected the link - cheers
Robert Murray-Smith, how long should I keep it on the magnetic stirrer for 40mg of slurry having pvdf 8mg and super P 32mg? I kept it for 3 hrs but it still broke
Robert Murray-Smith awesome thanks
i usually don't mix slurrys in a magnetic stirrer mate - normally i use an MTI vacuum mixer - so i don't really know
isn't that actually thin graphite rather than graphene? Graphene is a 2D material, and is therefore transparent. I've been trying everything that's come to mind with electrochemical exfoliation, but still have not been able to regularly produce graphene. Only extremely small portions of it among huge portions of itty bitty graphite. And even then, I'm not entirely confident that even that is graphene and not sodium sulfate darkened with graphite. I've been searching high and low for a way to consistently produce graphene aside from scotch tape-cleaving method. Sadly, that's the only way to produce authentic graphene for now
When are you going to make a capacitor big enough to make that helicopter get off the table?
Ten-centimeter square should do it.
when will you make one?
7 by 9 mate we did one lol
Since I first came across your videos a few months back I have been aquiring the tools and materials to do my own experiments.
@ 7:17 drawing... let me illustrate - unintentional pun by chance?
didn't find any kits
Graphine aerogel battery please
I would like to point out that the link to Indiegogo returned an "Invalid Page" error for me.
cheers mate - i'll check it
corrected mate - thanks for the heads up
No you haven't...lol... it's still saying invalid.
that's odd mate - my wife just checked it and it worked
Yes you are right, appears to be working fine now. Thanks.
:)
Given a common set of ingedients and precise instructions and quantity measurements, it should be possible to reliably produce identical performing batteries each and every time. To suggest that performance and results obtained are dependent on individual skill is unscientific bullshit typically employed by snakeoil salesmen. Two conductive plates narrowly separated by an insulator make a capacitor. Graphene is not necessary or even desireable in order to produce a capacitor.
Make your hair longer and let's back to the future
Yes rob
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