OMG I can't believe you actually wired up all those diodes just for this video haha but you're right it did present a very clear picture of how the circuit would work. Thank you for putting it all that time and effort I learned a lot from this video!
@dreammix9430 No, you actually didn't learn anything. Ever notice how ALL these “Free Energy gizmo's " are never used by the person making said gizmo, to power anything in their own home, let alone selling the gizmo's to anybody else. It might as well be called a “Flux Capacitor” , invented by Dr. Emmett Brown, from “Back to the Future”. NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY
I envision a ZPM application using the fractal capacitors instead of batteries in Tesla's battery swapping charger and splitting the positive with an output resistance that is 1/2 or less of the difference in potential between the series and parallel capacitors.
Outstanding Rob! You devised the best method I've seen to provide the viewer with a foundational understanding of those confusing diode voltage multipliers/dividers, and what it is we're actually doing here. Great work!
Now Robert, don't act so surprised! You know you're outstanding. As I might have been smooth convincing the officer to cuff himself, I'm still a criminal. The truth is the truth, and with that I move to, with a second aye, that you obtain the alias/aka (Mr.Outstanding) .
That is friggin awesome! I had a sleepless night after watching this as to the number of potential applications. Thank you..... Now to go down the rabbit hole!
The only issue I see with this, is that the high voltage is always sitting on 3 diodes in serial connection. Therefore their reverse voltage treshold (zener voltage) has to be at least 1/2 of the HV input. The current and voltage dynamics during charge would be really interesting to see. For sort period of time, the diodes are doing really crazy stuff, as the holes in PN junction are quite slow. If one diode is faster then other one, the full HV can be observed on any od these 3 diodes which could potentialy destroy it (like what ESD discharge does in some cases). I think the HV rectifiers are already addressing this issue when you try to serial connect them to increase the "reverse voltage protection". Or am I wrong?
The maximum reverse voltage a diode can handle is not the zener voltage. The zener voltage is the designed voltage produced by a zener diode. Ok, that happens to be a diode in reverse conduction but the point is the zener voltage is applied to a zener diode only and not to other types of diodes.
so minus different types of diodes, assuming the first set from "lightening" size current would need to be bigger, and scale down like would make sense in my mind, are we saying that scaling them down sequentially then, they would have to be with some sort of other scale in mind? @@deang5622
As someone who just got into eletrconics ive heard of voltage dividers to reduce voltage using resistors, but not with capacitors, facsinating, killivolts to 1 volt? amazing! This means you could fly a kite in a thunderstorm and get energy from lighting? like we always wanted.
Our government is already doing this .. their not going to tell us this however because then they'd have to tell us about the aircraft up there that r as big as cities.... Then they'd have to get into the tech that allows these craft to stay up there indefinitely and so on and so forth, I can tell u all these " internet" lines Obama had put up to help all us poor country folk .... Really wasn't about that at all but does have to do with these huge craft and the plasma orbs that they collect and send back down into the power lines , n then as near as I can tell r routed into the ground for whatever reason, I'm no scientist but , ik what I see
Very interesting stuff. I would be curious to see if this circuit could just naturally manifest electricity from the sky by hooking this circuit's black wire up to earth ground and the red wire as high up into the sky with one of Tesla's atmospheric antennas, and maybe you could even go as far as to make your attenna fractal in nature as well. Everything in this universe is fractal and I truly believe our ancestors knew it and they were harnessing it. Anyone who doubts that free energy exists could be in for a rude awaking to all of this information that has been deliberately suppressed. God bless you for sharing your work. This is some truly incredible research
25:40 Just in case it's useful to someone doing this with a large number, you can buy packs of 4-pin PWM PC-fan extension cables for not very much at all. These have the same colour wires as used here and breadboard-compatible wire fits neatly into the sockets on either end, if female-female, or you could solder diodes directly between pins on male connectors.
A similar circuit can be used to improve power factor where the intent is to use rectified line voltage to run a DC load. The half voltage will persist between voltage peaks, so current fluctuation will be less if caps are correctly sized. The voltage halver would reduce the size of a choke to get a smooth current ripple.
very interesting explanation, but i have a question, since voltage multipliers work with AC or switched DC and not with simple DC, i think that even a voltage down converter like this needs some form of AC input or switched DC. So it would be difficult to convert an output like the one coming out from an electrostatic machine in a switched DC, maybe you would need some kind of mechanical switch to apply high DC voltage inverting the polarity periodically, or chop it (less efficient) to supply the fractal converter.
You are an excellent teacher and I thank you for going to all the trouble you went to in order to illustrate this concept for us RUclips viewers! Ideally, this concept would be best applied not as a circuit board but as a single silicon wafer chip using present day chip technology. That’s the only way I think this idea would ever be economically feasible due to the economic costs of sourcing the components and actually assembling them together on say a production line. But for educational purposes, its brilliant as a proof of concept. As for your greater goal of harnessing environmental energy, I think Nikola Tesla did it with his resonant transformer design at Wardenclyff, which used the whole Earth as a capacitor plate. What you call “electrostatic” is really longitudinal dielectric. It’s a longitudinal standing wave in the Aether, which is formed by crossing two transverse magneto-electric currents at 180 degrees out of phase (as in a bifilar coil or bucking coil) so that they cancel out to form a single longitudinal standing wave in the Aether. On your mechanical rotary spark gap machine, which was creating high voltage impulses, the longitudinal wave is emitted at the discharge point of the spark gap for each cycle. Tesla’s hairpin circuit works in a similar fashion.
One fly in the ointment, the diodes in the first stage need to handle 1/3 of the charging voltage, dropping to 2/9 for the second stage so the top level stages are going to need some honking great high voltage diodes or diode stacks
With all those diodes it's surprising that the fractal works out to be more efficient. Presumable the total series Vf of the diodes in any charging path must be lower using a fractal configuration. It would be interesting to compare the diodes charge path in a Cockcroft multplier with the fractal equivalent. Isn't the absolute voltage of the high voltage limited by the PIV of the first three diodes in series? To increase the PIV, it is usual to put more diodes in series, which reduces the efficiency.
@@dynamicresistance I have since found some diodes used for microwaves, they are rated with a PIV of 12kV @ 450mA. That gives 36kV input voltage for the first three diodes in the basic building block. ( The Peak inverse voltage limitation makes it necessary to put more diodes in series to handle the high voltage without breakdown, that generally increases the Vf losses.) My comment on the Cockcroft multiplier was ill judged, as the fractional design is for DC and not an AC supply. The diodes just switching between the series charging connection and the parallel discharge connection. I downloaded the cited document on piezoelectric energy recovery that use the fractal design. The energy losses are associated with the Vf of the diodes, and how many end up in series to get down to the required output. It is an interesting way to get from a high DC voltage at low current, to a lower DC voltage at a higher current. It may be a way to scavenge useful energy from static electricity, such as that associated with aerial space charge.
I wonder if there's a diode ink that can be used, allowing you to print some arrangement on a continuous roll of paper, and roll it back up to complete the contacts between segments.
It was my favourite word in the early 90's when I first read about it as the Mandelbrot set. I think there are still video's of fractal iteration with false colours just to 'look pretty'
This will probably work WONDERS on a HHO setup, gotta experiment! It never occurred to me to think of this added into the cct. Cheers Rob and thanks mate. It's PROBABLY the KEY.
Thank you for explaining an interesting idea simply. I'm wondering about the capacitor specifications: am I right to assume the voltage across each capacitor is proportional to the overall voltage divided by the number of capacitors - in which case the dielectric will have to withstand at least that voltage. Secondly does the schematic imply the capacitors should be matched. Thirdly would you envisage off the shelf capacitors (ie electrolytics) would suffice?
Brilliant. What about the wire being placed woven into a sail ? Could one long wire running up and down the sail? How close could they be? Then get such electrostatic motors allowed in the Americas Cup and see what kind of boats we could have then ?
ERROR at 0:55: When 10V is applied to capacitors 2.2uF (right) and 22uF (left) in series, 9V appears across the 2.2uF (right) and 1V appears across the 22uF (left). It's not the other way around as he claims. ERROR at 11:54: Snowflakes grow with characteristic hexagonal crystal symmetry, not described here.
0:59 - Did you describe the capacitor voltage division backwards? What's actually happening is that you have equal charge on the two capacitors. If you put the same charge Q on a smaller capacitor, you'll get a higher voltage. Q = C*V; keep Q the same, make C smaller, V has to be bigger. So the larger capacitor will get the smaller voltage, and vice versa. The charges match because there is no current path to the wire between the capacitors - the only way to get charge +Q onto one of them is to pull that charge from the other one. The voltage source can only supply charge to / take charge from the outside plates of the two capacitors.
Perhaps my American ears. I could not grasp that website mentioned. A link in the description maybe? Links help so much. Thank you Robert. I never miss.
Lovely lovely work! For sure. But as i watched video i kept expecting the end to show it working. I thought you might hook it up to a power supply and take a voltage reading out of the other end. Not to complain, i just thought it was heading that way and it would be lovely to see.
The fractal network reminds me of the buildings surrounding the Great Pyramids. Could they have been different components making circuits performing different work/alcamy?
I’ve been experimenting with this lately, atmospheric power, I have little currents obviously, I would try this fractal pattern see if I could get more current
I seen your video on Stirling engines and that was really cool the thing I'm noticing as these people making hydrogen for their car it's running off of their alternator which makes the engine work harder which birds up any thing but I was thinking if you put a sterling motor running off your manifold of your - run car and then to make the hydrogen then you could run the hydrogen and then you wouldn't be using any energy except the wasted energy off to the thermostat does that sound right
I really want to encourage you to continue, because ... On a different channel there was a discussion about Fermi's paradox and the hypothesis put forward by SOME people was that one civilization using us all the raw materials (metals / fossil fuels / easily-accessible radioactives / He4 / etc) would PREVENT any successor civilization from developing. I disagree with that hypothesis because ... NECESSITY is the mother of invention and those civilizations will find a way. Which leads to the corollary - plenty is the father of inactivity. We haven't invented electrostatic science YET because ...WE DON'T NEED IT (YET). We found electromagnetism, steam, fossil fuels, etc first. Not a lot of motivation to look for more (the fossil fuel people are violently opposing us looking for more so they can stay RICH 😬). BUT ... any solution for harvesting environmental energy in a meaningful way will be HUGE. After all, that is what a PV panel does - harvest energy that was just lying around. Go outside on a sunny day and there is a kw/sq m to just pick up; it costs nothing once you have the pieces. I would say that it's better than 90% likely that there is something along this line in the electrostatic "arena" and THAT solution may be as world-changing as the PV panel (and possibly not as inconvenient). This isn't "perpetual motion" or "infinite energy", it's POTENTIALLY very similar to the "infinite energy" I get from a Renology panel.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it very much! One question - as the scenario is fractal, does that mean the voltages or currents drop or increase in an exponential way? If so, does that mean the voltage or current ratings of the capacitors and diodes, would have to be able to withstand the full HV or HI input or output directly? I'm trying to see the benefit of this network compared to a Cockroft-Walton multiplier, which is more of a stepped function to get high voltages. Thank you!
Dear Mr. Murray, wouldn't the fractal capacitor enable a 400-800KV static generator to even produce a steady amp current? What are the numbers for conversions at a scale you are aware of ? sincere thanks, Carl
Had no idea you could use capacitors as the key components for a step down transformer turning kilovolts at milliamps to volts at amps presumably...fascinating...theoretically this could be used as part of a circuit involving a balloon carried aerial or aerial on a high tower with the potentials being the differences between ground level and the electrostatic potential of the atmosphere at higher altitudes.
Alternatively...is whats needed a charging cycle followed by a power cycle? Would it resemble kind of like a fuel powered system what other properties could be interduced Like water or addition of gas or solid.
I'm fairly Newb to diodes, but might a tunnel diode work more efficiently? Might need a couple of other diodes to prevent a backflow..but more efficient?
brilliantly described and the demo is very helpful. In my world a hex pyramid accumulates atmospheric energy.using a caduceus coil cone of 76.345 degrees. it was a download not sure if works but I am either on the right track or the left track.
Very interesting. Have you got a video showing us a practical application? How do you collect the charge? How many watts will the device you built produce and upon what does this depend? Thank you.
Idk .... But I can tell u there r those in the government that do and it must be a good deal because our government's r already collecting what I call. " plasma orbs" w these huge craft.... Another very interesting technology that must allow these things to stay up there .... But one thing at a time they then send these " plasma orbs" down these tubes and or tracks onto the power lines and then iit seems into the ground . I'm assuming they collect the power as they go along the power lines ... However I'm no scientist. .. I'm just telling u what I have observed
Do you have multiple channels? I'm sure I've subscribed more than once. Quick question, whatever happened to super capacitors? Elon Musk bought out a major manufacturer in USA, (2019?) and then, everything went quiet. I guess swapping a few hundred cells in a Tesla for super caps with 'instantaneous charging' from regenerative braking was a threat to profits ?
What if you replaced the diodes with diode bridges with capacitors across the input in series on the ac side and in parallel on the dc side so the input of the diode bridges are in series and the output is in parallel to save room on the circuit board?
@@thekaxmax I guess you just get the cheep diode bridges for 10 pack with 4 pin @ 1 amp at 1000v. Only cast 4.78. Digi key sells them for 14.62 for 100 ; too high?
Your body is a capacitor to air and a capacitor to ground, its a divider and the ratio is 10 to 1 so if you touch an oscilloscope you get about 24V as we are surrounded by 240V a.c.
Could a fractal capacitor like that 'absorb' a lightning hit and disperse the energy in harmless directions? Seen a lot of videos where sailboats have all their electronics blown out by direct lightning hits.
I remember pondering how to do this when studying A levels in 1990...finally lol. I was looking at an ioniser that had a load of capacitors and wondered if you could reverse the process... pity it exploded 😂
The start is mostly interesting to me, if you can divide voltage by 2 is it reasonable to say that the other way around you can double the output voltage by 2. If i connect 2 seperate 240v outlets to eacht capacitor does it make 500 volts combined? If so what are the losses, if any. I wanna upsample the voltage for an infrared PTC plastic sheet attached to a wall. I now have 45 degrees, wanna go up to at least 80 degrees. Is this the way to go? What should the capacitors at least be - 500 volt / 400 uF ?
Can't see that website address on my tiny phone screen. If you could put the addresses in your description it would help. Really fascinating stuff as always!
I'm trying to get my head wrapped around this. Are we saying that it's possible to take electrostatic energy and convert it to low voltage high current. If this is the case there are so many applications!
Great work I only have one big problem with it is lighting strikes.there mysterious.there constant in one area and almost none existing in others ..if you are vulnerable your toast.
@@TnTOmnibus they used a cap and a spark plug back in the day.i was thinking of doing something like this but the lighting strikes put me off of it ..what's wrong with a cap and a neon trigger for a mosfet to dump at 100 volts going to a door bell transformer kicking it down to 15volts ?
Very interesting, I've seen the step up ladder arrays of diodes and caps, but not such a scheme/concept for stepping down. As for efficiency, yes it's important, but for atmospheric alectricity perhaps not as important as getting the sharp points up into the air. Many 1800s photos have such sharp points, spikes and domes, and balls... perhaps we are rediscovering something here, a very interesting 'field' :)
Just a thought would this method of energy harvesting possibly be a way of collecting energy produced by the casimir effect when used in a step up configuration?
I have an idea that could totally change everyones perception of energy use and collecting., i love your videos, it sucks how it takes money to get the ball rolling
OMG I can't believe you actually wired up all those diodes just for this video haha but you're right it did present a very clear picture of how the circuit would work. Thank you for putting it all that time and effort I learned a lot from this video!
Problem is the effect that as in thus video is a amount of information that it's showing something if your aware of such
Tesla is the one to know this LIGHT IS THE ENERGY OF THE COLOR OF FRACTURE
@@robbmaier368What?
@dreammix9430 No, you actually didn't learn anything. Ever notice how ALL these “Free Energy gizmo's " are never used by the person making said gizmo, to power anything in their own home, let alone selling the gizmo's to anybody else. It might as well be called a “Flux Capacitor” , invented by Dr. Emmett Brown, from “Back to the Future”.
NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY
ambient energy harvesting scalable architecturally compatible
Gotta be the hardest working man on RUclips Thank you sir!
The omnibus is very good at revisiting these things you show. I understand it a little better now than before, seeing it all together here. Thank you.
I am hoping that is the case mate - so that's good to know thanks for letting me know
I envision a ZPM application using the fractal capacitors instead of batteries in Tesla's battery swapping charger and splitting the positive with an output resistance that is 1/2 or less of the difference in potential between the series and parallel capacitors.
Outstanding Rob! You devised the best method I've seen to provide the viewer with a foundational understanding of those confusing diode voltage multipliers/dividers, and what it is we're actually doing here. Great work!
oh wow - cheers mate - that is a really kind thing to say
Now Robert, don't act so surprised!
You know you're outstanding.
As I might have been smooth convincing the officer to cuff himself, I'm still a criminal.
The truth is the truth, and with that I move to, with a second aye, that you obtain the alias/aka (Mr.Outstanding) .
Anyway i can help
Tinkered with electronics for a while, but this is the first time I've heard of a fractal capacitor. Very cool idea!
This will go down in history as your most important video. Thank you!
Rob, it always amazes me the stuff you manage to dig up but this has completely exploded my brain. Thank you once again.
That is friggin awesome! I had a sleepless night after watching this as to the number of potential applications. Thank you..... Now to go down the rabbit hole!
Future developments ~ fractal capacitor banks to capture lightning in various parts of the world 😁
Waoow! Robert it's real something to work on!!!! Thanks! /Mikael
Robert, putting the website link in the description section would be much appreciated. Thanks.
The only issue I see with this, is that the high voltage is always sitting on 3 diodes in serial connection. Therefore their reverse voltage treshold (zener voltage) has to be at least 1/2 of the HV input. The current and voltage dynamics during charge would be really interesting to see. For sort period of time, the diodes are doing really crazy stuff, as the holes in PN junction are quite slow. If one diode is faster then other one, the full HV can be observed on any od these 3 diodes which could potentialy destroy it (like what ESD discharge does in some cases). I think the HV rectifiers are already addressing this issue when you try to serial connect them to increase the "reverse voltage protection". Or am I wrong?
The maximum reverse voltage a diode can handle is not the zener voltage.
The zener voltage is the designed voltage produced by a zener diode. Ok, that happens to be a diode in reverse conduction but the point is the zener voltage is applied to a zener diode only and not to other types of diodes.
so minus different types of diodes, assuming the first set from "lightening" size current would need to be bigger, and scale down like would make sense in my mind, are we saying that scaling them down sequentially then, they would have to be with some sort of other scale in mind? @@deang5622
As someone who just got into eletrconics ive heard of voltage dividers to reduce voltage using resistors, but not with capacitors, facsinating, killivolts to 1 volt? amazing! This means you could fly a kite in a thunderstorm and get energy from lighting? like we always wanted.
yes you could!
@@justtinkering6713capacitors are found in both DC and AC applications. Capacitor voltage division in DC is actually fairly common.
Or off the roof of an rv with rials too. 👍
Our government is already doing this .. their not going to tell us this however because then they'd have to tell us about the aircraft up there that r as big as cities.... Then they'd have to get into the tech that allows these craft to stay up there indefinitely and so on and so forth, I can tell u all these " internet" lines Obama had put up to help all us poor country folk .... Really wasn't about that at all but does have to do with these huge craft and the plasma orbs that they collect and send back down into the power lines , n then as near as I can tell r routed into the ground for whatever reason, I'm no scientist but , ik what I see
Very interesting stuff. I would be curious to see if this circuit could just naturally manifest electricity from the sky by hooking this circuit's black wire up to earth ground and the red wire as high up into the sky with one of Tesla's atmospheric antennas, and maybe you could even go as far as to make your attenna fractal in nature as well. Everything in this universe is fractal and I truly believe our ancestors knew it and they were harnessing it. Anyone who doubts that free energy exists could be in for a rude awaking to all of this information that has been deliberately suppressed. God bless you for sharing your work. This is some truly incredible research
25:40 Just in case it's useful to someone doing this with a large number, you can buy packs of 4-pin PWM PC-fan extension cables for not very much at all. These have the same colour wires as used here and breadboard-compatible wire fits neatly into the sockets on either end, if female-female, or you could solder diodes directly between pins on male connectors.
nice tip mate thanks for posting
An absolute gold mine. Thankyou.
A similar circuit can be used to improve power factor where the intent is to use rectified line voltage to run a DC load. The half voltage will persist between voltage peaks, so current fluctuation will be less if caps are correctly sized. The voltage halver would reduce the size of a choke to get a smooth current ripple.
very interesting explanation, but i have a question, since voltage multipliers work with AC or switched DC and not with simple DC, i think that even a voltage down converter like this needs some form of AC input or switched DC. So it would be difficult to convert an output like the one coming out from an electrostatic machine in a switched DC, maybe you would need some kind of mechanical switch to apply high DC voltage inverting the polarity periodically, or chop it (less efficient) to supply the fractal converter.
Thanx for realizing that people see things from different perspectives let alone ways to see stuff
cheers mate
Love your enthusiasm.
cheers mate
You are an excellent teacher and I thank you for going to all the trouble you went to in order to illustrate this concept for us RUclips viewers! Ideally, this concept would be best applied not as a circuit board but as a single silicon wafer chip using present day chip technology. That’s the only way I think this idea would ever be economically feasible due to the economic costs of sourcing the components and actually assembling them together on say a production line. But for educational purposes, its brilliant as a proof of concept. As for your greater goal of harnessing environmental energy, I think Nikola Tesla did it with his resonant transformer design at Wardenclyff, which used the whole Earth as a capacitor plate. What you call “electrostatic” is really longitudinal dielectric. It’s a longitudinal standing wave in the Aether, which is formed by crossing two transverse magneto-electric currents at 180 degrees out of phase (as in a bifilar coil or bucking coil) so that they cancel out to form a single longitudinal standing wave in the Aether. On your mechanical rotary spark gap machine, which was creating high voltage impulses, the longitudinal wave is emitted at the discharge point of the spark gap for each cycle. Tesla’s hairpin circuit works in a similar fashion.
One fly in the ointment, the diodes in the first stage need to handle 1/3 of the charging voltage, dropping to 2/9 for the second stage so the top level stages are going to need some honking great high voltage diodes or diode stacks
is this a common thing? expensive I'm assuming.
This video makes me want to start a company building these. Inspiring design.
oh the dots and the re-arranged schematic really helped , thank you for that.
cheers mate
With all those diodes it's surprising that the fractal works out to be more efficient. Presumable the total series Vf of the diodes in any charging path must be lower using a fractal configuration. It would be interesting to compare the diodes charge path in a Cockcroft multplier with the fractal equivalent.
Isn't the absolute voltage of the high voltage limited by the PIV of the first three diodes in series? To increase the PIV, it is usual to put more diodes in series, which reduces the efficiency.
so the first 3 diodes would need to be extreme... or... in massive parallel design?
@@dynamicresistance I have since found some diodes used for microwaves, they are rated with a PIV of 12kV @ 450mA. That gives 36kV input voltage for the first three diodes in the basic building block. ( The Peak inverse voltage limitation makes it necessary to put more diodes in series to handle the high voltage without breakdown, that generally increases the Vf losses.)
My comment on the Cockcroft multiplier was ill judged, as the fractional design is for DC and not an AC supply. The diodes just switching between the series charging connection and the parallel discharge connection. I downloaded the cited document on piezoelectric energy recovery that use the fractal design. The energy losses are associated with the Vf of the diodes, and how many end up in series to get down to the required output. It is an interesting way to get from a high DC voltage at low current, to a lower DC voltage at a higher current. It may be a way to scavenge useful energy from static electricity, such as that associated with aerial space charge.
Yet another outstanding video, Robert!
You're onto something, most definitely. This is really exciting, it will be very interesting to see where you take this.
Sorry, what type of diode is used did you mention? Does it matter? What would the input and output be could you give an example?
Everything you just said is soooo above me, yet you can state its use where i get it🥳
Needless to say i saved this‼️‼️‼️‼️
Absolutely Excellent.
Thank You for all the effort
you put into this Video too
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I wonder if there's a diode ink that can be used, allowing you to print some arrangement on a continuous roll of paper, and roll it back up to complete the contacts between segments.
Fractal is quickly becoming my most favourite word , rather more relevant than people may think ❤
It was my favourite word in the early 90's when I first read about it as the Mandelbrot set. I think there are still video's of fractal iteration with false colours just to 'look pretty'
Yeah, as above so below. Humans have cancerous growths and so human societies have you templar types.
this is just brilliant, thank you so much for this video and incredible explanation
Awesome presentation! Where may I find the Gerber file? Thank you for being such an inspiration!`
This will probably work WONDERS on a HHO setup, gotta experiment! It never occurred to me to think of this added into the cct. Cheers Rob and thanks mate. It's PROBABLY the KEY.
I love your idea :) please consider tips id like to tip videos like this, can be interesting to see it in large scale to hadne lightning
Always inspiring, thank you.
love to see what its capabilities are.
Thank you for explaining an interesting idea simply. I'm wondering about the capacitor specifications: am I right to assume the voltage across each capacitor is proportional to the overall voltage divided by the number of capacitors - in which case the dielectric will have to withstand at least that voltage. Secondly does the schematic imply the capacitors should be matched. Thirdly would you envisage off the shelf capacitors (ie electrolytics) would suffice?
Brilliant. What about the wire being placed woven into a sail ? Could one long wire running up and down the sail? How close could they be? Then get such electrostatic motors allowed in the Americas Cup and see what kind of boats we could have then ?
ERROR at 0:55: When 10V is applied to capacitors 2.2uF (right) and 22uF (left) in series, 9V appears across the 2.2uF (right) and 1V appears across the 22uF (left). It's not the other way around as he claims. ERROR at 11:54: Snowflakes grow with characteristic hexagonal crystal symmetry, not described here.
0:59 - Did you describe the capacitor voltage division backwards? What's actually happening is that you have equal charge on the two capacitors. If you put the same charge Q on a smaller capacitor, you'll get a higher voltage. Q = C*V; keep Q the same, make C smaller, V has to be bigger. So the larger capacitor will get the smaller voltage, and vice versa.
The charges match because there is no current path to the wire between the capacitors - the only way to get charge +Q onto one of them is to pull that charge from the other one. The voltage source can only supply charge to / take charge from the outside plates of the two capacitors.
Perhaps my American ears. I could not grasp that website mentioned. A link in the description maybe? Links help so much. Thank you Robert. I never miss.
Lovely lovely work! For sure. But as i watched video i kept expecting the end to show it working. I thought you might hook it up to a power supply and take a voltage reading out of the other end. Not to complain, i just thought it was heading that way and it would be lovely to see.
…or would big oil or the illuminati come knocking at your door? 🫣
The layman's teaching quality for a viewer was an excellent curve viewing point attending reception...
The fractal network reminds me of the buildings surrounding the Great Pyramids. Could they have been different components making circuits performing different work/alcamy?
Fascinating!!! I wonder if one could print the fractal network using special inks...
PS...you attire is getting much better
The Bendini circuit produces back emf, I wonder if by using the fractal capacitor network if this HV spike could be made more useful?
give it a go
I’ve been experimenting with this lately, atmospheric power, I have little currents obviously, I would try this fractal pattern see if I could get more current
do a video and share mate
I seen your video on Stirling engines and that was really cool the thing I'm noticing as these people making hydrogen for their car it's running off of their alternator which makes the engine work harder which birds up any thing but I was thinking if you put a sterling motor running off your manifold of your - run car and then to make the hydrogen then you could run the hydrogen and then you wouldn't be using any energy except the wasted energy off to the thermostat does that sound right
I really want to encourage you to continue, because ...
On a different channel there was a discussion about Fermi's paradox and the hypothesis put forward by SOME people was that one civilization using us all the raw materials (metals / fossil fuels / easily-accessible radioactives / He4 / etc) would PREVENT any successor civilization from developing.
I disagree with that hypothesis because ... NECESSITY is the mother of invention and those civilizations will find a way.
Which leads to the corollary - plenty is the father of inactivity. We haven't invented electrostatic science YET because ...WE DON'T NEED IT (YET). We found electromagnetism, steam, fossil fuels, etc first. Not a lot of motivation to look for more (the fossil fuel people are violently opposing us looking for more so they can stay RICH 😬).
BUT ... any solution for harvesting environmental energy in a meaningful way will be HUGE. After all, that is what a PV panel does - harvest energy that was just lying around. Go outside on a sunny day and there is a kw/sq m to just pick up; it costs nothing once you have the pieces.
I would say that it's better than 90% likely that there is something along this line in the electrostatic "arena" and THAT solution may be as world-changing as the PV panel (and possibly not as inconvenient).
This isn't "perpetual motion" or "infinite energy", it's POTENTIALLY very similar to the "infinite energy" I get from a Renology panel.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it very much! One question - as the scenario is fractal, does that mean the voltages or currents drop or increase in an exponential way? If so, does that mean the voltage or current ratings of the capacitors and diodes, would have to be able to withstand the full HV or HI input or output directly? I'm trying to see the benefit of this network compared to a Cockroft-Walton multiplier, which is more of a stepped function to get high voltages. Thank you!
Dear Mr. Murray,
wouldn't the fractal capacitor enable a 400-800KV static generator to even produce a steady amp current?
What are the numbers for conversions at a scale you are aware of ?
sincere thanks,
Carl
Awesome! How would you go about adapting this to harvest the energy from a dirigible since you don't have any ground line?
Had no idea you could use capacitors as the key components for a step down transformer turning kilovolts at milliamps to volts at amps presumably...fascinating...theoretically this could be used as part of a circuit involving a balloon carried aerial or aerial on a high tower with the potentials being the differences between ground level and the electrostatic potential of the atmosphere at higher altitudes.
Robert, A Wonderful. Explanation !
cheers mate
did you take into consideration in your circuit of the voltage drop per diode used
Wow, very interesting setup, are you going to make a follow up video? I would like to some results from testing.
Do you have to allow for the capacitance in the diode PN junctions in the strings ?
Will you do a video on 3D printers? What do you use, for what purposes and give recommendations!
Alternatively...is whats needed a
charging cycle followed by a power cycle?
Would it resemble kind of like a fuel powered system what other properties could be interduced
Like water or addition of gas or solid.
I'm fairly Newb to diodes, but might a tunnel diode work more efficiently? Might need a couple of other diodes to prevent a backflow..but more efficient?
Keeping the pcb submerged in an oil bath would help to minimize the HV losses. Nice video again.
Wow amazing never thought about that but its really exiting! Thanks Rob
cheers mate
Hey mate Tiago’s website is down is there some kind of backup you know of looks like a wealth of info in there.
Please put the links into the video description
How do i get the circuit board files? As they are not in the description, thanks.
Fascinating, but one thing is not clear to me: you showed the input of the circuit, but where is the output?
This is extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing.
brilliantly described and the demo is very helpful. In my world a hex pyramid accumulates atmospheric energy.using a caduceus coil cone of 76.345 degrees. it was a download not sure if works but I am either on the right track or the left track.
why didn't you use large capasitors, like the ones in motors 5 - 80Uf
Good day Rob, do you mind sharing the circuit diagram and gerber files?
Thank you for making this video
Very interesting. Have you got a video showing us a practical application? How do you collect the charge? How many watts will the device you built produce and upon what does this depend? Thank you.
Idk .... But I can tell u there r those in the government that do and it must be a good deal because our government's r already collecting what I call. " plasma orbs" w these huge craft.... Another very interesting technology that must allow these things to stay up there .... But one thing at a time they then send these " plasma orbs" down these tubes and or tracks onto the power lines and then iit seems into the ground . I'm assuming they collect the power as they go along the power lines ... However I'm no scientist. .. I'm just telling u what I have observed
What a fantastic episode!
Do you have multiple channels?
I'm sure I've subscribed more than once.
Quick question, whatever happened to super capacitors?
Elon Musk bought out a major manufacturer in USA, (2019?) and then, everything went quiet.
I guess swapping a few hundred cells in a Tesla for super caps with 'instantaneous charging' from regenerative braking was a threat to profits ?
What if you replaced the diodes with diode bridges with capacitors across the input in series on the ac side and in parallel on the dc side so the input of the diode bridges are in series and the output is in parallel to save room on the circuit board?
@@thekaxmax I guess you just get the cheep diode bridges for 10 pack with 4 pin @ 1 amp at 1000v. Only cast 4.78. Digi key sells them for 14.62 for 100 ; too high?
go for it mate - give it a go
(WOW), another fantastic video Robert. Question. What size Capacitor works best for this circuit? Thanks for sharing.
Your body is a capacitor to air and a capacitor to ground, its a divider and the ratio is 10 to 1 so if you touch an oscilloscope you get about 24V as we are surrounded by 240V a.c.
Yes .... This is y they want 6g now, to harness our energy... Maybe
How is switching done and where is switch ?
Could a fractal capacitor like that 'absorb' a lightning hit and disperse the energy in harmless directions? Seen a lot of videos where sailboats have all their electronics blown out by direct lightning hits.
I remember pondering how to do this when studying A levels in 1990...finally lol. I was looking at an ioniser that had a load of capacitors and wondered if you could reverse the process... pity it exploded 😂
The start is mostly interesting to me, if you can divide voltage by 2 is it reasonable to say that the other way around you can double the output voltage by 2. If i connect 2 seperate 240v outlets to eacht capacitor does it make 500 volts combined? If so what are the losses, if any. I wanna upsample the voltage for an infrared PTC plastic sheet attached to a wall. I now have 45 degrees, wanna go up to at least 80 degrees. Is this the way to go? What should the capacitors at least be - 500 volt / 400 uF ?
brilliant mate ! this could get very usefull ! cant wait to see u use it on your free enery devices ! keep up the good work
Can't see that website address on my tiny phone screen. If you could put the addresses in your description it would help.
Really fascinating stuff as always!
But how do they manage the issue of side fumbling?
Why wouldnt the voltage drop of all the diodes add up and show a large voltage drop at the output?
I'm trying to get my head wrapped around this. Are we saying that it's possible to take electrostatic energy and convert it to low voltage high current. If this is the case there are so many applications!
I work at a flour mill where loads of static charge is generated on all of the delivery lines. 1000's of volts that we just ground off.
Great work I only have one big problem with it is lighting strikes.there mysterious.there constant in one area and almost none existing in others ..if you are vulnerable your toast.
you can always use the difference in potential between ground and height mate
@@TnTOmnibus isn't it the difference that kills you ? I'm missing something?
@@TnTOmnibus they used a cap and a spark plug back in the day.i was thinking of doing something like this but the lighting strikes put me off of it ..what's wrong with a cap and a neon trigger for a mosfet to dump at 100 volts going to a door bell transformer kicking it down to 15volts ?
Brilliant. Thank you.
Thank you Rob I guess I now can proceed with my antenna to soil radiant energy harvester.
Where can i find the gerber files or schematic Rob spoke of?
I would like to see its output on an osciliscope.. if it is possible for you to do so.
Can u use 2 12v batteries in series and use only 12v output like with diodes
Very interesting, I've seen the step up ladder arrays of diodes and caps, but not such a scheme/concept for stepping down. As for efficiency, yes it's important, but for atmospheric alectricity perhaps not as important as getting the sharp points up into the air.
Many 1800s photos have such sharp points, spikes and domes, and balls... perhaps we are rediscovering something here, a very interesting 'field' :)
Truly great video thanks. WIll watch again later. I would almost bet Mr Tesla himself did something like this and kept it away from public.
Believe that but our government has it and is currently using atmospheric energy as we speak
That's fantastic tech, good job with the explanation..
Just a thought would this method of energy harvesting possibly be a way of collecting energy produced by the casimir effect when used in a step up configuration?
That was an assume vid Rob. It sparks lots of ideas.
cheers mate
Where's the files you mentioned at 24:52?
you have to create them
It's fun to think about a global network collecting and distributing electricity derived from lightning.
I have an idea that could totally change everyones perception of energy use and collecting., i love your videos, it sucks how it takes money to get the ball rolling
wanna help me build it?
Explain it. @@michaelking2836
Please can you do a follow up and capture some high energy sparks to turn back into power?