I think it’s a good barrel length too. I originally wanted the 2 1/2 inch barrel but decided I’d rather have the 4” because it’s a good balance between ease of carry and accuracy/muzzle energy. I did have a 3” S&W 629 though lol.
Yeah I agree. About 18 years ago I bought the GP100 with the 6 inch barrel and always kind of wished I had bought the 4 inch. Well a few years ago I said the heck with it a bought the 4 inch GP100. Still kept the 6 inch model. It now has a scope on it and it now looks as bad ass as the .45 long slide from The Terminator.
Great firearm ! It's a firearm that will be passed on to your great, great grandchildren. " Wheel guns are real guns" Sold my S/W 686 just didn't have the feel I wanted. The Ruger GP100 rocks.
I love all of my guns! Revolvers, semiautos! I have never wore out a magazine spring. Your carry gun should get plenty of visits to the range so your magazine springs can get a chance to stretch. I have the 4 inch gp100 and love it. It's not just a revolver, it's a work of art!
I don't have a GP-100 (yet), but I have a Redhawk & it's a great revolver. The GP-100 & Redhawk both have improved lockwork that greatly improve the triggers. Ruger revolvers are overbuilt by design, they're heavier than the competition but easily eat a steady diet of maximum pressure ammunition.
Love the way you gave Props to " " Grab a gun " , So many times people will tell you the got a great deal but never tell you where. It important to give thumbs up.
I've been owning both S&W and Rugers for many years. In the 80's (to me) the Ruger was a distant 3rd out of the "big three" in terms of the fine points, but today not so much. The Ruger is completely investment cast or stamped from top to bottom and has no hand fitting on anything. In the 80's you still could get a hand fitted/forged Python and S&W was forged too, including internals. Ruger has not changed it's manufacturing at all and my 1989 GP100 is identical to a new one with the exception of the heavier mainspring and grips. But it's interesting to note that the exact same Ruger designs are now top quality in the modern era since Pythons are long gone and S&W has changed their formula to lower costs. I'm a Ruger fan and very happy that they have committed to the revolver and their way of doing things.
Investment casting technique is a VERY good casting method. It's not cheap and nasty. They do use more thickness in most places than the equivalent forged S&W. Strength is only as good as the weakest part, and for S&W the weakness is a cylinder that won't stay in place after enough hard loads. Ruger may be using casting, but it's a very good casting.
@@bladeduffer Frames. Barrels are cold hammer-forged, true. The barrel stock is threaded into the investment-casted frame. For instance, the top strap over the cylinder on a Ruger is noticeably thicker than the strap over the cylinder on the equivalent class S&W. Some would say forging is stronger. Well, anything can be stronger than something else, but the details is where that is hashed out. Ruger may use casting, may use thick material, S&W may be forged, but without actually knowing I do suspect the Rugers are still stronger due to thickness. But like I said, S&W could forge their pistols out of the most hard, exotic crazy strong metal on the planet and make it exceedingly thin as a result and never break. But, if there is a weak point somewhere in the overall design of the gun, that weak point makes the strength of everything else irrelevant for testing first breakage.
@@exothermal.sprocket , very true. For as long as I can remember, I always read that Rugers were stronger. I mean, just the fact that they seem to consistently put up with full power magnum loads better than S&Ws bears this out.
@@bladeduffer It's more a design feature than anything else. They have that 3-point cylinder lockup, with that robust half-moon tab on the cylinder crane. S&W uses a detent ball on the end of the cylinder rod, which is basically a joke.
I currently have 3 revolvers, all Rugers. One GP 100 (6" blued), and two SP 101's. One of those is a 2 1/4" hammerless, the other is the Wiley Clapp version. I love them all for different reasons, but my favorite has got to be the Wiley Clapp model. Thing about a Ruger and it's excessively heavy trigger, is that it is fairly easy to rectify with a little patience and effort...and a minimal amount of cash. Smooth out some of the rough spots you find in the internals, grab some Wolff gun springs, and your good to go. It may not be quite as smooth as a Smith, but with some effort, it can be drastically improved upon. There are plenty of videos on how to do this on RUclips if anyone is interested and doesn't already know how to do it.
The front sight change out was a feature I wasn’t aware of until I bought my GP100. I loved its durability and rugged build, also the price was great. But I bought a fiber optic front to change out, worth every penny and super simple to change. I love my GP100, beautiful action, solid build and just all around amazing 357 revolver.
Just got a GP100 yestetday! Blued, four-inch barrel. Put 70 .357 rounds through it. Ordered fiber optic sights from Ruger. Very comfortable grip. Recommended, but I like my 686 better. Good video , thank you!
I bought this same gun and after adjusting the rear sight it’s a very accurate gun! Love the build quality and I have two sp101’s (5shot) those are built as well . Thinking of doing the Mothers polish job on mine , I’ve seen it done and it makes this gun look great! I bought the Alien Gear IWB holster for my gp100 and I recommend it if you want a comfortable IWB rig for CCW . Thought I don’t CCW this heavy gun on any kind of regular basis sometimes I like to take it out for the day because…… well heavy guns need love too 😜✌️🇺🇸
beautiful revolver. I don't know know if anyone said this yet but I wouldn't worry about quality Springs wearing out. a quality spring will be heat treated and spring don't loose their effectiveness by compression. they loose their effectiveness with over use and I'm talking 20 or 30 thousand rounds of cycling up and down. most hand gun owners will never shoot 20,000 rounds through their handguns. maybe a competitive shooter will? also if Springs are your concern....I hate to be the bearer of bad news but revolvers have a lot of small Springs inside of them that can technically wear out just like a semiautomatic mag spring can. great video nonetheless. I still want one more revolver in my collection. the S&W460xvr.
+mixflip Speaking from personal experience you will love the 460, at least in the longer barrel lenghts it is deadly accurate not bad at all really in the recoil area and delivers some serious HORSEPOWER at damn long ranges for any handgun, and you can shoot it relatively cheap with 45 colt ammo, or 454 casull, just a couple tips if you get one, get at least the 8 and 3/8th's or longer barrel the shorter barrels lose all the advantage of all that powder in that big case so you may as well have just went with 454 casull, and shy away from that rather stupid little 200 grain bullet hornady loads for it (way light and lousy ballistic coefiency loses energy too fast down range, and up close is too lightly constructed to not over expand unless on light bodied critters like dear), this big boy starts doing it's best stuff with bullets of between 260 to 360 grains with the ones in the 395 area good for up close big bear busters, I own 3 of them 2 - 8 3/8th's and a 14 inch barreled, I reload for mine and can still drive a 300 grain bullet (such as the hornady 300 xtp that is just plain devastating on even big things like the large elk i've downed with it at pushing the 200 yard mark from my scoped 8 3/8th's)at a solid 2000 feet per second from the 8 3/8th's and just about 2200 from the 14 incher is about as good as you could hope from about any handgun, penetration with the heavy hard cast bullets from this gun it also rivals the 500 in most cases believe it or not, I own the 500 also and while it is awesome in it's own right my testing and that of others, bears out the fact of less penetration, at least untill the bullet weight gets above about 400 grains, and while you can get bullet weights up to the 700 grains area for the 500, recoil and the battering it gives you and the gun are in the really stupid area of things, and shooting those are very costly (the 500 in general)because of the lack of that smaller plinking type counterpart cartridge available, just some things to consider.
+looseballs1966 I will take your advice on the 8 inch barrel. I'd love to have a bear defense handgun strapped in a chest rig when out and about in the back country.
mixflip yea you will find it much easier to shoot well and more accurate along with what I already said, and the little extra weight and length you gain in an already massive gun is really a non issue in my book anyhow, and just knowing your hammering big bruin with about as full force as the round can muster, and put it exactly where it needs to go also makes the extra heft well worth it, and at a tad over a grand you don't want to pork the pooch and buy something that won't do it for you, anyhow save those penny's and do it you'll love it my friend.
I'm sure by now you've had plenty of practice and love this gun! I used to own a Service Six that I purchased back in the early 70s and this gun has all the upgrades that you would look for in regards to the one I owned. Large grips for one, mine came with chinsy grips and I removed them and had some made from walnut for it. It was a blues model with fixed sights. GP has adjustable sights. It would hold up to the strongest loads and not a worry about damaging the gun in any way. I really loved that gun! I'm sure you love yours as well!
I prefer Smith and Wesson, however I have two GP100’s. The same one in the video and the 7 shot with a 2.5 inch barrel. I did change the hogue grip to the older rubber ones with the wood inserts. Much more comfortable. A wonderful revolver!
I just purchased a Ruger Revolver GP100 Model#1715. Three inch barrel. 357 Magnum. Truly enjoy utilizing this firearm at the range. This is the first time that I have owned a firearm and very happy with it. I did over pay for this gun. Paid $745 plus tax. Grab a Gun is the website I will purchase from next time. The Gun Shops here in Los Angeles are over priced. Thanks for your advice!
You paid close to retail price, anyhow you still have a fantastic firearm in your possession. I wouldn't regret that kind of purchase, Enjoy your GP100!
In the early 90's I couldn't decide on a S&W 686 and a GP 100 both in 6 inch barrel.So I bought them both.Then 2 decades later I bought another GP 100 in a 4 inch barrel.
You know what's awesome I just bought one at a pawn shop thank you for telling me the price because that's exactly the price I paid about $549.99. For my Ruger GP 100. I've always wanted a 357. Gun I love revolvers they don't Jam they're easier to clean and maintain. Let's say it's an early birthday gif for me to me
I had the same decision between the 686 and GP100 a couple of years ago. I went to a local gun show and found both. The 686 was an original no dash model and the price was the same. The 686 was the easy choice but the Ruger is very nice. I also agree about the internal lock (Hillary Hole). I hate it with a passion. The good news is that it can be removed and plugged. I may do that in the future if I buy a new one.
@@vig6321 I’d suggest getting a gunsmith to do it unless you’re experienced with taking guns apart. I’ve seen the process done and you’ll have to open it up and remove the lock from the inside. The plug is then inserted afterward. Leave it to the professionals if you have any doubts.
I've got the Wiley Clapp 3" Ruger GP100 and it is a favorite. I grew up shooting wheel guns. When I was with the NIS (before they put the "C" in it) we carried Rugers, just like the SEALS did back in the day. It has been pointed out that there are certain advantages to having a weapon that does not automatically eject spent cartridges. Far be it for me to go into a detailed discussion here. The other thing is that the .357 is a great man stopper. And a revolver will also take snake shot to eliminate the occasional rattler or copperhead.
The Original Precision aftermarket product lock-delete for S&W will allow you to take the lock off and plug the hole with matching metal. I have had my three S&W revolvers altered to remove the locks. Love the service and the quality. The Ruger GP100 has no side-plate so the frame has no side plate screws to loosen over time from repeated recoil impulses.
Appreciate the review and insight you have between this and the Smith. I'm already a Ruger fan so had pretty much decided on this or the SP 101 .357 but i hear how everyone raves bout the Smith revolvers. I have a m&p AR that I just love and my son has the Shield so I'm aware of their quality. I'm looking to slowly get into reloading and i figure it will be nice to have a revolver (don't have to chase brass around) and maybe one of those .357 Henry carbines eventually. I'll check out your other vids, like the laid back style.
Love that revolver. Have been looking at the stainless 6 in version. Best price here in 2021 is $799. Although I mostly own semi auto pistols, I love revolvers. As for pistol magazines, they are like batteries. They have so many cycles then you replace. A magazine you don’t use is not cycling so there’s no wear on the spring. As with anything else you should inspect regularly but they’re extremely reliable. After all you don’t see cops and soldiers using revolvers and there are many reasons for that. Nothing wrong with a good magazine in a good pistol. I carry pistols because of capacity. I would carry a revolver but only as a back up.
I bought that same Ruger yesterday "1705" model and of course first thing i want to do is change a couple things ...Ordered the rubber grip off the ruger site with the wood inserts for $44.95 then two days later ruger slashed the price to 19.95 , that slap in the face actually hurt for hours .....Then i wanted to change out the plain black blade front site . When i looked online and saw all you had to do to change the front sight was push in on a spring loaded pin to release the old site i was 100% impressed .
I have S&W 6” 7 shot 686, 1.85” 5 shot 637, and my wife has a beautiful 4” 6 shot Model 10 Classic. Great guns and we have no intention of parting with them. But I am more comfortable for every day plinking or home defense with my 3” 6 shot Ruger GP100. Save for the 3” barrel mine came out of the box looking exactly like yours Hoag (spelling?) grips and all. I still have those grips but I generally use the Crimson Trace ones with the rosewood side panels. I don’t often turn the laser on but I kind of like having it there just in case. My GP100 is my favorite double action revolver even though the S&Ws are prettier to look at and the 6” 686 is more accurate when carefully aimed at 20 to 25 yards on the range. Closer & quicker I’ll go for the 3” Ruger any day. Just my thoughts... you have a pretty gun there. Thanks for the video! :)
Original Precision makes a loc-delete and metal matching plug I have used to eliminate the lock on my model 329PD and my 460V. Love the way they both look and function now.
Mine is the 6 inch. Its my security blanket on the weekends when im night fishing for flathead catfish. It gets a little spooky around 1 am when im by myself lol. My regular edc is a taurus 905 9mm.
This model co stars in the movie Run All Night where old hat mob enforcer Jimmy Conlon(played by Liam Neeson) takes on the whole 'company' with their autos and he cowboys the whole bunch with his GP 100 and his long term earned craft skills and savy. And finally takes out a high-tech pro named Price with his laser guided auto ,body armor, night optic with an old worn Winchester M92 in .44-40 cowboy action ammo. Of course it's Hollywood fantasy but I suspect those old lever-action and wheel guns might just be better suited to the outdoor enviroment with their sturdy hands on actions. Love that movie!
Your decision was guided by your sense of VALUE, it's nice to see your perspective. I'll add another point that you missed: The FORCING CONE of the revolver. As we know, the GP-100 is the most heavily-built 38/357 in its class. And when it comes to the area of the forcing cone, the forcing cone is likewise thicker. Why is that important? Because when you have a THIN forcing cone, it's easier for the high-pressure gas molecules to exit the pressurized area FASTER (because they have a SHORTER path to travel ("pathlength" as we say in physics). Multiply this concept by many many trillions of molecules all trying to exit at the same time. So, another reason why the GP-100 is inherently better than its peers.
My very first revolver had it for a little over a month now. Doesn't even feel like I'm shooting a .357. So smooth. Wish it came in .44 mag. Guess I'll be getting a kodiak soon...
A lot of folks just really don’t understand metallurgy strength difference versus thickness of metal and they just keep going back to hearsay on what others say that aren’t really knowledgeable themselves about metal strength and weaknesses.
I have owned both the S&W 686 7 shot, and currently a Stainless GP100 as yours. I really like everything you mentioned as it was the same reasons I went with the GP100. I ordered both the red ramp front sight and a fiber optic front sight from Ruger also. I like how the GP has no sideplates and it is built really well. The trigger to me is only slightly harder to pull in DA, but it is very easy to feel the clicks and get it to the point of break and make good accurate shots. Or use it faster at close range if you had to. I also think the Hogue grip is excellent, and the GP does a great job of handling and heavier .357 load I use in it. The Smith wasn't as easy to shoot with a heavy load imo. I get back on target quicker being an easier to control Magnum revolver which means alot. I even carry mine for deer season now as well as it is very accurate out to 50yds. and plenty of energy at that range to take a whitetail. I do hit my steel at 100yds with it too..never do that with my polymer pistols..I am thinking of buying a Beretta 92/M9 as my next handgun. Those are very nice to shoot as well and easily one of the top 5 pistols to own,,and I like being all metal..Sig P226 is another. I carry just a Glock 43 pocket gun, but my .357 is always with me in my truck, or woods walking etc. The heft doesn't bother me at all, you get used to it..You can even use it as your main carry in the colder months easier than I thought I could have it hidden. Hoping to be able to have the Beretta while big in size for carry be my all time carry most times as well..
Springs don't wear out from being under constant compression. People store them that way for years with no issue. Its when they are constantly compressed and decompressed that causes wear on them. Even that will take years to do.
i struggle with the doubleaction trigger on the GP100, but I still love it! I have a blued one in 6 inches with Hogue grips. Also the cylinder button is so much better than the SW's which you have to slide to open.
I shot both 6in side by side 686 and g p100. I liked my gp100 better and i think my friend like my ruger over his smith. It just felt better in my hand. Beefier and thicker. Hogue grip helped a lot also
Never had an issue with the hillary hole on my Smith's... I have a 686 + 3 inch variety...I'm buying a GP 100 in 3 inch this week as well ... 3 inch to me is the perfect carry size ..great vid...
Rugers Rock! I own three Ruger revolvers - LCR .357 magnum snub nose, SP101 .357 magnum 4" barrel and GP100 .357 magnum with 6" barrel with 7 shot cylinder. All shoot great!
I'm an avid S&W fan but if I were to buy a Ruger revolver it would definitely be the GP100. These revolvers are indeed "overbuilt" and can handle any load you can put through it. The frame on the GP100 is very hefty and as much as I love my S&W model 586, I wouldn't mind owning a Ruger GP100 one bit. Excellent revolver - Excellent value.
Great revolver it’s a tank and shoots like a dream. This video is 7 years old and I just picked this up and got it for 600 bucks. So there ya go it holds its value...
I bought a 6" RUGER GP 100 S.S. polished. You can't hurt these guns! Will take any hot load you can put in them! I call it "THE BEAST!" Carry it when hunting in a cross draw holster because it is a bit to hard to get out of a dominant right hand holster. For Bear, just in case!
You make a good case. Only a few new S&W revolvers these days are available without the key. I bought one this past year (2016), a model 649, which had the key. I removed that. I know my way around S&W just enough to do that sort of thing. It would be hell to put back due to a mouse trap spring. I would like a good 4" .357 Magnum. How is the trigger on that Ruger? I can't leave triggers alone. All my Smiths have had their triggers smoothed out by yours truly. I have no idea how I would do that to a Ruger. Ah! I see a video on the right side bar that talks about that. If I went with the Smith, I would go for the + with 7 rounds. I'll stick to my J-Frame for carry. Or an LC9s. I am having one hell of a time deciding which to make my all season EDC.
my wife bought me a GP100 (4 inch bbl, blue) in '93...it's still running good. I also have an H&K USP40, but my heart belongs to "Maggie"...and my wife, of course...ya hang on to the good ones!
Yup tried a S&W M&P .45, during a qual shoot two magazine spring failed at the same time (piece of crap) all the bullets spilled out on the ground. Now these were high capacity magazines. Ended up barely passing by only putting 3 bullets at a time in the magazines. Smith of course when it was brought to their attention ignored me . Yup springs wear out especially defective ones.
I agree with avoiding the S&W locks. Even if they really don't cause that many problems (at least on the heavy guns) the fact that S&W caved to the Clintons and other bureaucrats and ruined the good looks of their guns is reason enough to avoid them. Rugers kick ass. As for the triggers, they smooth up very nicely in time.
I have both S&W and Ruger they are both great revolvers. One is forged and the other MIM . One is as to be made larger to handle the psi pressures. Nothing wrong with that, but looks can be seen as to be stronger because of size. I have one 686 plus no lock and one 642 with lock, if you don't like the lock just spend 5 min. and remove it! My GP100 3" is a great gun but feels a bit larger than it needs to be.
I appreciate the heads up on GrabAGun, they've currently got it for $580. 4.2 inch GP100's are currently out of stock in my area on Gun Genie and Buds wants $680
I agree with most things you said about the Ruger but, Right off the bat the Ruger uses 2 coil springs instead of one flat mainspring like the Smith. The Ruger has a much better trigger than the Smiths especially the ones built in the last 20 years and I own some. I have a M10, a 629 Classic, a 642 and a M66 and I've shot a lot more over the last 40+ years. My first Ruger was a Speed 6 and 2 years ago I retired it and bought a 3" GP100 which sits next to my 2 Sp101's (a 3" 327 Federal and a 9mm), the Speed 6 and a SRH in 454. One other thing, most people choose a grip based on looks or because it feels right. Well, I learned a long time ago the best grip is the one you hit better with. Case in point, your GP100 like mine came with the same grip. Not bad but Ruger offers a compact grip for the GP100 and RH and it makes all the difference in the world. They look just like the stock ones but smaller and with my hands my fingers wrap almost completely around the grip touching the heel of my hand and that makes the revolver lock right in, it barely moves and automatically recovers from recoil. Try it, you won't believe it.
This is not true. A spring absolutely will become weaker over time when under tension for extended periods. All materials will deform when enough stress is applied over time. What you are referring to is fatigue. After numerous cycles the spring will also become weaker.
@@fredfour0 I don’t know anything about that. I just know that over time a compressed spring will definitely weaken. If magazine manufacturers want to get ahead of that they could design springs that take much longer to wear out. I’m just arguing against the original comment since it stated that they do not wear out from compression. Perhaps it takes longer than 5 years for those specific magazine springs, but they will still eventually wear out from compression. If there is some physics I’m overlooking please let me know, but to my understanding and education the statement “compressing a spring doesn’t do anything to it” is false. If you need better information then try to find some credible sources (multiple sources for best info) on this since I’m just another commenter on a RUclips thread 😁
@@WhyPhi oh no you are correct about the physics. The correct statement the commenter should have made was that "compressing magazine springs causes negligible wear".
i BOUGHT MINE 6 MONTHS AGO....sorry caps and this is THEE finest built revolver hands down ! After shooting it i immediately bought myself another and (carry both) and bought my wife one last week.It is built like a TANK i already put in over 1,000 rounds of 357 158 grain and can say this,you would NEVER have to worry about a barrel warping on this revolver like you would a S & W revolver just saying.GREAT choice brother !!
+usa2012 most all the rugers are some darn good guns, and I say that having owned a bunch of various ones, but while they are very strong are almost unnessarily so to the point of being overly chunky and lacking the fine refinements of the Smith and wessons or colts, even the run of the mill ones, and get a performance center smith or an older pre lock pinned and reacesed era smith in your hands and you will really see what fine craftsmanship is supposed to be, just a thing to keep in mind ruger uses cast frames and need the extra mass to get the strength, while smith and colt are forged, a process that really toughens the metal in comparison. and just another tidbit of info I keep hearing about the smith lock thing, I have numerous smiths both with and without the lock, and while I prefer them without due to asthetic reasons, I shoot ALOT and not a single one of my lock equiped smiths from my 12 once 340 pd shooting the hottest 357 mag rounds clear up to my 500 shooting the 750 grain hollow point monsters has ever gave me one single issue were the lock is concerned, so quite frankly I would have to call bullshit on the lock issues guys are having, and would have to chalk it up to operator error.
+Fred Flowers Yep you are at least partly correct I do not know it to the letter, but I do know that MIM involves a processes that sprays powdered metal of various alloy under extreme pressure and heat into a mold of sorts to form a part, and when everything goes as it should that part can have at least as good or better desired strength properties as nearly any other method of making said part, and that investment casting involves using a wax plug to make a mold of most often sand then pouring molten metal into the mold melting the wax and the metal taking its place and forming the desired part, making for a part of relatively good strength and desired dimensions with little finish machine work needed, but with 1 exception and that if something goes not so right within the interior of the part such as tiny imperfections even on a microscopic level can cause a weakness (hence just 1of the reasons ruger beefs up the frames as much as they do just in case such a imperfection is present, it is either that or X ray every part, just a little something I learned about 30 years ago while working at a foundry called Hern Iron works in coeurdalene Idaho where I lived, and from a close friend that worked at a place called Boraloy for a while that actually used that processes to make revolver frames), in the processes of forging a part you do not have such issues, and in forging you really toughen the metal by causing the molecules to pack together very tightly, and I do know that for a fact having done at least a little forging in my 50+ years on this planet, not that I was trying to make an issue of one versus the other really, just making the most common observation in comparing the main differences in apearences and of the reality that the rugers are way chunckier than the smiths or colts for this and whatever other reasons, and while not trying to dispute the good or bad about the locks just my observations, but you seem to want to make an issue over something so immaterial by making such a lame ass 1 sentence reply, well how about show just how damn smart you are and enlighten all us dumb asses and explain it to all of us mere mortals oh mighty know it all master of all, you seem to know everything about come on spill your guts, tell us all so we can know what we should or should not put our faith in. or did you just get butt hurt from being a ruger fan boy , I own at least a half dozen of all those mentioned brands and more, I just learn to accept the good and bad ins and outs that goes with each can you.
Ive been a big Smith Wesson fan for years had several of the older revolvers. I still have my model 29-3 i bought new from a local gun store at the time, but refuse to buy any of their newer revolvers. They have to many MIM parts trigger lock their just junk now compared to their older revolvers. Ruger on the other hand have always made the strongest most rugger reliable revolvers on the market. Dam near impossible to destroy even with the hottest loads reason why many hunters used them where with Smith Wesson you had to be careful are you could run into trouble. Im looking at the GP 100 right now for CCW/EDC just not sure if i want and 3 or 4inch, from what ive seen their going between 500 to 600 depending on who has them.
I use my 3", 7 shot GP100 for EDC in the colder months with a Kydex IWB holster and love it. I keep it stoked with Fiocchi Extrema Ammunition 38 Special +P 125 Grain with the Hornady XTP bullet. Very effective and recoils like a 22 in that GP100, you'll love it.
Ruger does NOT make even close to the strongest revolvers on the market! Korth builds the strongest double action.357 revolver. Freedom arms builds by far the strongest single action revolvers bar none! And while not inferior in overall strength, the reason Ruger frames are thicker than S&W frames is because they have to be because they're an investment casting where as the S&W is forged! A casting requires more material to equal the strength of a forging! Period! Simple metallurgy. And I hate to break the news to you but Ruger uses MIM parts as well. Maybe know the facts before spouting misinformation.
@@johncoleman2495 Pretty well all gun makers use mim parts now days unless their custom made. As far as Korth their more of a nich company IMO compared to Ruger or Smith. When i grew up Ruger had the stronger gun and ill stick by what i said. Ruger are built like tanks, they can take the hotter loads Smith cant. Most people will never be able to afford a Korth so thats a mute point. Freedom Arms is another very expensive fire arm as well that most will never buy. Like i said im more of a Smith person mainly because i like the design of their guns. I hate to BREAK IT TO YOU but your not telling me any thing new. Ive been dealing with guns for over 50 years ive seen most of whats out their not everything because i dont keep up with the new. I just stick with what works and the average Joe can afford. Ruger is 1 of the strongest revolvers if not the strongest out and thats just a simple fact. Look at reloading theirs loads for guns like the weaker Smiths and then theirs the heavy loads that are for the Rugers. I no my facts maybe you shouldnt try to be a smart ass no it all that doesnt maybe doesnt no. Also if really gonna talk stongest id say the guns with the brass frames design to shoot the 45-70/444 rounds would actually be the strongest if were really talking stronest revolver which will blow that Korth away all day long. SO dont preach to me about mis information dude.
Here in Canada that exact Ruger sells for $999, and the 4 inch 686 sells for $889. I found that a couple of dealers currently have the 686 on sale for $799, so I went for that instead.
You made the right choice. The locks on a S&W are a turnoff to many as well as the reports of barrels being installed incorrectly.I bought most of my firearms through Grabagun & Buds, never had a problem with either.
Loved my original 4” back in 1990 with wood inserts. Should have never sold it. Wanted the 5” later because it’s supposedly the “perfect” length but could not justify paying the premium price for it. Never thought I would like the 6” and the new Hogue grip but I bought one and LOVED it.
The frame on the GP100 is meatier because it's cast instead of forged like the Smith. They have to make it larger to have enough strength. I really like shooting the GP100, and I own a Super Redhawk Alaskan, but the metals in the 686 & GP100 simply have different properties and the 686 is just as strong in a slimmer profile. Now, fear of the lock and higher price are much more logical reasons to choose the Ruger, you can always have a trigger job done.
Bob and Donna Reynolds I have 3” barrel one and love it! Built like a tank also. My new truck gun! Only holds 5 rounds is only downside to them but oh well !!
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I have the 6”. Solid, heavy, accurate. Military Tank designers take inspiration from these revolvers. And I can use it as an anchor if needed. After a nuclear war, there will be cockroaches and Ruger GP100’s. 👍🏼💪🏼⚓️
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Glad you chose a .357 mag over a .38 spec, since the .357 shoots both. Hogue grips are great, fit my hand well and help with hotter loads. Ruger revolvers have gained a reputation for reliability & durability. I like some of those features you pointed out too!
I carry a Ruger LCR. Ruger makes a great piece. However, when compared I bought the Smith 686+ for about $800.00 I think Smith and Wesson is a better smoother gun. I did however once I had the pistol, it did have some rough burnish marks on the finish. I sent it back to Smith and for no charge they cleaned it up for me. Nice overall review.
Nice revolver. I just got a blue one and put some wood grips (same shape as those rubber hogue ones) and a new front sight. Front sight was only about $15
I love the thick top strap,S&W's I've seen some crack..If you run out of ammo,beat your attacker over the head with it,he won't get up..These are fabulous guns,I love mine..
Great vid! My first hand gun; I chose it because it's a reliable, rugged, good looking wheel gun. Forty ounces of heft; it may not be ideal for concealed carry but I have to, I will.
I have this exact gun...what a piece of absolute quality. I love it!
Nice gun. I’m thinking of getting one
Do you still have it? If so how has it held up?
I think the 4” is the perfect size barrel for this gun. The 6” looks a little to big, the 3” a little to small for the frame, the 4” is perfect
Chris Costello 4in is best for any revolver
Mines 4.2" and very very accurate
I think it’s a good barrel length too. I originally wanted the 2 1/2 inch barrel but decided I’d rather have the 4” because it’s a good balance between ease of carry and accuracy/muzzle energy. I did have a 3” S&W 629 though lol.
Yeah I agree. About 18 years ago I bought the GP100 with the 6 inch barrel and always kind of wished I had bought the 4 inch. Well a few years ago I said the heck with it a bought the 4 inch GP100. Still kept the 6 inch model. It now has a scope on it and it now looks as bad ass as the .45 long slide from The Terminator.
How about 5” ?????
Great firearm ! It's a firearm that will be passed on to your great, great grandchildren. " Wheel guns are real guns" Sold my S/W 686 just didn't have the feel I wanted. The Ruger GP100 rocks.
I have this 4.20" 6 round cylinder. Recently bought the 6" 7 round cylinder. Wood insert grip. Fiber optic site. Beautiful with the Bianchi holster.
I love all of my guns! Revolvers, semiautos! I have never wore out a magazine spring. Your carry gun should get plenty of visits to the range so your magazine springs can get a chance to stretch. I have the 4 inch gp100 and love it. It's not just a revolver, it's a work of art!
I don't have a GP-100 (yet), but I have a Redhawk & it's a great revolver. The GP-100 & Redhawk both have improved lockwork that greatly improve the triggers. Ruger revolvers are overbuilt by design, they're heavier than the competition but easily eat a steady diet of maximum pressure ammunition.
I've been wanting a 3 inch GP100 for quite some time. Ruger is not my favorite semi automatic.
Ruger is however my favorite revolver.
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I like my Ruger GP 100 Match Champion and I would happily carry it to the range, mowing, on the farm, or for home defense.
Too bad I do not know you as I hated my Match Champion and sold it. Horrible trigger.
I've been owning both S&W and Rugers for many years. In the 80's (to me) the Ruger was a distant 3rd out of the "big three" in terms of the fine points, but today not so much. The Ruger is completely investment cast or stamped from top to bottom and has no hand fitting on anything. In the 80's you still could get a hand fitted/forged Python and S&W was forged too, including internals. Ruger has not changed it's manufacturing at all and my 1989 GP100 is identical to a new one with the exception of the heavier mainspring and grips. But it's interesting to note that the exact same Ruger designs are now top quality in the modern era since Pythons are long gone and S&W has changed their formula to lower costs. I'm a Ruger fan and very happy that they have committed to the revolver and their way of doing things.
Investment casting technique is a VERY good casting method. It's not cheap and nasty. They do use more thickness in most places than the equivalent forged S&W. Strength is only as good as the weakest part, and for S&W the weakness is a cylinder that won't stay in place after enough hard loads. Ruger may be using casting, but it's a very good casting.
@@exothermal.sprocket , I always wonder about that though Ruger's sites indicates that their barrels are forged.
@@bladeduffer Frames. Barrels are cold hammer-forged, true. The barrel stock is threaded into the investment-casted frame. For instance, the top strap over the cylinder on a Ruger is noticeably thicker than the strap over the cylinder on the equivalent class S&W. Some would say forging is stronger. Well, anything can be stronger than something else, but the details is where that is hashed out. Ruger may use casting, may use thick material, S&W may be forged, but without actually knowing I do suspect the Rugers are still stronger due to thickness. But like I said, S&W could forge their pistols out of the most hard, exotic crazy strong metal on the planet and make it exceedingly thin as a result and never break. But, if there is a weak point somewhere in the overall design of the gun, that weak point makes the strength of everything else irrelevant for testing first breakage.
@@exothermal.sprocket , very true. For as long as I can remember, I always read that Rugers were stronger. I mean, just the fact that they seem to consistently put up with full power magnum loads better than S&Ws bears this out.
@@bladeduffer It's more a design feature than anything else. They have that 3-point cylinder lockup, with that robust half-moon tab on the cylinder crane. S&W uses a detent ball on the end of the cylinder rod, which is basically a joke.
I currently have 3 revolvers, all Rugers. One GP 100 (6" blued), and two SP 101's. One of those is a 2 1/4" hammerless, the other is the Wiley Clapp version. I love them all for different reasons, but my favorite has got to be the Wiley Clapp model.
Thing about a Ruger and it's excessively heavy trigger, is that it is fairly easy to rectify with a little patience and effort...and a minimal amount of cash. Smooth out some of the rough spots you find in the internals, grab some Wolff gun springs, and your good to go. It may not be quite as smooth as a Smith, but with some effort, it can be drastically improved upon. There are plenty of videos on how to do this on RUclips if anyone is interested and doesn't already know how to do it.
Until you hold the one you have no idea how awesome this gun truly is!
Ruger makes a great revolver!
The front sight change out was a feature I wasn’t aware of until I bought my GP100. I loved its durability and rugged build, also the price was great.
But I bought a fiber optic front to change out, worth every penny and super simple to change. I love my GP100, beautiful action, solid build and just all around amazing 357 revolver.
I have this exact same pistol. It’s a wonderful, super reliable piece. I’ve had mine over 10 years and had not 1 problem with it.
Just got a GP100 yestetday! Blued, four-inch barrel. Put 70 .357 rounds through it. Ordered fiber optic sights from Ruger. Very comfortable grip. Recommended, but I like my 686 better. Good video , thank you!
What a beautiful and bad ass weapon... Wow!!
I bought this same gun and after adjusting the rear sight it’s a very accurate gun! Love the build quality and I have two sp101’s (5shot) those are built as well . Thinking of doing the Mothers polish job on mine , I’ve seen it done and it makes this gun look great! I bought the Alien Gear IWB holster for my gp100 and I recommend it if you want a comfortable IWB rig for CCW . Thought I don’t CCW this heavy gun on any kind of regular basis sometimes I like to take it out for the day because…… well heavy guns need love too 😜✌️🇺🇸
beautiful revolver. I don't know know if anyone said this yet but I wouldn't worry about quality Springs wearing out. a quality spring will be heat treated and spring don't loose their effectiveness by compression. they loose their effectiveness with over use and I'm talking 20 or 30 thousand rounds of cycling up and down. most hand gun owners will never shoot 20,000 rounds through their handguns. maybe a competitive shooter will?
also if Springs are your concern....I hate to be the bearer of bad news but revolvers have a lot of small Springs inside of them that can technically wear out just like a semiautomatic mag spring can.
great video nonetheless. I still want one more revolver in my collection. the S&W460xvr.
+mixflip Speaking from personal experience you will love the 460, at least in the longer barrel lenghts it is deadly accurate not bad at all really in the recoil area and delivers some serious HORSEPOWER at damn long ranges for any handgun, and you can shoot it relatively cheap with 45 colt ammo, or 454 casull, just a couple tips if you get one, get at least the 8 and 3/8th's or longer barrel the shorter barrels lose all the advantage of all that powder in that big case so you may as well have just went with 454 casull, and shy away from that rather stupid little 200 grain bullet hornady loads for it (way light and lousy ballistic coefiency loses energy too fast down range, and up close is too lightly constructed to not over expand unless on light bodied critters like dear), this big boy starts doing it's best stuff with bullets of between 260 to 360 grains with the ones in the 395 area good for up close big bear busters, I own 3 of them 2 - 8 3/8th's and a 14 inch barreled, I reload for mine and can still drive a 300 grain bullet (such as the hornady 300 xtp that is just plain devastating on even big things like the large elk i've downed with it at pushing the 200 yard mark from my scoped 8 3/8th's)at a solid 2000 feet per second from the 8 3/8th's and just about 2200 from the 14 incher is about as good as you could hope from about any handgun, penetration with the heavy hard cast bullets from this gun it also rivals the 500 in most cases believe it or not, I own the 500 also and while it is awesome in it's own right my testing and that of others, bears out the fact of less penetration, at least untill the bullet weight gets above about 400 grains, and while you can get bullet weights up to the 700 grains area for the 500, recoil and the battering it gives you and the gun are in the really stupid area of things, and shooting those are very costly (the 500 in general)because of the lack of that smaller plinking type counterpart cartridge available, just some things to consider.
+looseballs1966 I will take your advice on the 8 inch barrel. I'd love to have a bear defense handgun strapped in a chest rig when out and about in the back country.
mixflip yea you will find it much easier to shoot well and more accurate along with what I already said, and the little extra weight and length you gain in an already massive gun is really a non issue in my book anyhow, and just knowing your hammering big bruin with about as full force as the round can muster, and put it exactly where it needs to go also makes the extra heft well worth it, and at a tad over a grand you don't want to pork the pooch and buy something that won't do it for you, anyhow save those penny's and do it you'll love it my friend.
I'm sure by now you've had plenty of practice and love this gun! I used to own a Service Six that I purchased back in the early 70s and this gun has all the upgrades that you would look for in regards to the one I owned. Large grips for one, mine came with chinsy grips and I removed them and had some made from walnut for it. It was a blues model with fixed sights. GP has adjustable sights. It would hold up to the strongest loads and not a worry about damaging the gun in any way. I really loved that gun! I'm sure you love yours as well!
I prefer Smith and Wesson, however I have two GP100’s. The same one in the video and the 7 shot with a 2.5 inch barrel. I did change the hogue grip to the older rubber ones with the wood inserts. Much more comfortable. A wonderful revolver!
Excellent review of a great revolver. I own two GP100's and they are keepers.
Scott
I would have chose the Ruger GP100 over the S&W 686, especially the newer ones.
The 686 is a thoroughbred, the GP-100 is a War horse.
Solution: GET BOTH!
Here in 2024 at my lgs the gp100 is actually 50$ more than the 686
I just purchased a Ruger Revolver GP100 Model#1715. Three inch barrel. 357 Magnum. Truly enjoy utilizing this firearm at the range. This is the first time that I have owned a firearm and very happy with it. I did over pay for this gun. Paid $745 plus tax. Grab a Gun is the website I will purchase from next time. The Gun Shops here in Los Angeles are over priced. Thanks for your advice!
You paid close to retail price, anyhow you still have a fantastic firearm in your possession. I wouldn't regret that kind of purchase, Enjoy your GP100!
@@jakeurbano8268 Copy that...
In the early 90's I couldn't decide on a S&W 686 and a GP 100 both in 6 inch barrel.So I bought them both.Then 2 decades later I bought another GP 100 in a 4 inch barrel.
I have this gun ,only it’s black with old style rosewood inserts.Love shooting it ,It’s a real mans gun plenty of power
You know what's awesome I just bought one at a pawn shop thank you for telling me the price because that's exactly the price I paid about $549.99.
For my Ruger GP 100. I've always wanted a 357. Gun I love revolvers they don't Jam they're easier to clean and maintain.
Let's say it's an early birthday gif for me to me
I had the same decision between the 686 and GP100 a couple of years ago. I went to a local gun show and found both. The 686 was an original no dash model and the price was the same. The 686 was the easy choice but the Ruger is very nice.
I also agree about the internal lock (Hillary Hole). I hate it with a passion. The good news is that it can be removed and plugged. I may do that in the future if I buy a new one.
@@vig6321 I’d suggest getting a gunsmith to do it unless you’re experienced with taking guns apart. I’ve seen the process done and you’ll have to open it up and remove the lock from the inside. The plug is then inserted afterward. Leave it to the professionals if you have any doubts.
I've got the Wiley Clapp 3" Ruger GP100 and it is a favorite. I grew up shooting wheel guns. When I was with the NIS (before they put the "C" in it) we carried Rugers, just like the SEALS did back in the day. It has been pointed out that there are certain advantages to having a weapon that does not automatically eject spent cartridges. Far be it for me to go into a detailed discussion here. The other thing is that the .357 is a great man stopper. And a revolver will also take snake shot to eliminate the occasional rattler or copperhead.
The Original Precision aftermarket product lock-delete for S&W will allow you to take the lock off and plug the hole with matching metal. I have had my three S&W revolvers altered to remove the locks. Love the service and the quality. The Ruger GP100 has no side-plate so the frame has no side plate screws to loosen over time from repeated recoil impulses.
Appreciate the review and insight you have between this and the Smith. I'm already a Ruger fan so had pretty much decided on this or the SP 101 .357 but i hear how everyone raves bout the Smith revolvers. I have a m&p AR that I just love and my son has the Shield so I'm aware of their quality. I'm looking to slowly get into reloading and i figure it will be nice to have a revolver (don't have to chase brass around) and maybe one of those .357 Henry carbines eventually. I'll check out your other vids, like the laid back style.
i love this revolver. only beef i have is that only the 3" has a channel sight. i prefer those over adjustables. beyond that, fabulous gun
I do too...i got a 3 inch version on gunbroker...
Just passed my FSC and purchased the Ruger GP100. Pleased with my purchase and look forward to August 5 pick up. Thanks for the video.
Love that revolver. Have been looking at the stainless 6 in version. Best price here in 2021 is $799. Although I mostly own semi auto pistols, I love revolvers. As for pistol magazines, they are like batteries. They have so many cycles then you replace. A magazine you don’t use is not cycling so there’s no wear on the spring. As with anything else you should inspect regularly but they’re extremely reliable. After all you don’t see cops and soldiers using revolvers and there are many reasons for that. Nothing wrong with a good magazine in a good pistol. I carry pistols because of capacity. I would carry a revolver but only as a back up.
I went with the 4” barrel and it’s my favorite. Feels very good and solid in your hand.
Thanks for the video! I think I may go with this ruger instead of the SW .357 magnum
I bought that same Ruger yesterday "1705" model and of course first thing i want to do is change a couple things ...Ordered the rubber grip off the ruger site with the wood inserts for
$44.95 then two days later ruger slashed the price to 19.95 , that slap in the face actually hurt for hours .....Then i wanted to change out the plain black blade front site . When i looked online and saw all you had to do to change the front sight was push in on a spring loaded pin to release the old site i was 100% impressed .
I have S&W 6” 7 shot 686, 1.85” 5 shot 637, and my wife has a beautiful 4” 6 shot Model 10 Classic. Great guns and we have no intention of parting with them. But I am more comfortable for every day plinking or home defense with my 3” 6 shot Ruger GP100. Save for the 3” barrel mine came out of the box looking exactly like yours Hoag (spelling?) grips and all. I still have those grips but I generally use the Crimson Trace ones with the rosewood side panels. I don’t often turn the laser on but I kind of like having it there just in case. My GP100 is my favorite double action revolver even though the S&Ws are prettier to look at and the 6” 686 is more accurate when carefully aimed at 20 to 25 yards on the range. Closer & quicker I’ll go for the 3” Ruger any day. Just my thoughts... you have a pretty gun there. Thanks for the video! :)
Original Precision makes a loc-delete and metal matching plug I have used to eliminate the lock on my model 329PD and my 460V. Love the way they both look and function now.
Love the Rugers, just got me the Redhawk 8 round 357 .... and I love it
Mine is the 6 inch. Its my security blanket on the weekends when im night fishing for flathead catfish. It gets a little spooky around 1 am when im by myself lol.
My regular edc is a taurus 905 9mm.
This model co stars in the movie Run All Night where old hat mob enforcer Jimmy Conlon(played by Liam Neeson) takes on the whole 'company' with their autos and he cowboys the whole bunch with his GP 100 and his long term earned craft skills and savy. And finally takes out a high-tech pro named Price with his laser guided auto ,body armor, night optic with an old worn Winchester M92 in .44-40 cowboy action ammo. Of course it's Hollywood fantasy but I suspect those old lever-action and wheel guns might just be better suited to the outdoor enviroment with their sturdy hands on actions. Love that movie!
Awesome purchase bro!!! Personally I like the look of a GP100 more than a 686...built like a tank and amazing perfection and performance
Your decision was guided by your sense of VALUE, it's nice to see your perspective.
I'll add another point that you missed: The FORCING CONE of the revolver. As we know, the GP-100 is the most heavily-built 38/357 in its class. And when it comes to the area of the forcing cone, the forcing cone is likewise thicker. Why is that important? Because when you have a THIN forcing cone, it's easier for the high-pressure gas molecules to exit the pressurized area FASTER (because they have a SHORTER path to travel ("pathlength" as we say in physics). Multiply this concept by many many trillions of molecules all trying to exit at the same time. So, another reason why the GP-100 is inherently better than its peers.
My very first revolver had it for a little over a month now. Doesn't even feel like I'm shooting a .357. So smooth. Wish it came in .44 mag. Guess I'll be getting a kodiak soon...
A lot of folks just really don’t understand metallurgy strength difference versus thickness of metal and they just keep going back to hearsay on what others say that aren’t really knowledgeable themselves about metal strength and weaknesses.
I have owned both the S&W 686 7 shot, and currently a Stainless GP100 as yours. I really like everything you mentioned as it was the same reasons I went with the GP100. I ordered both the red ramp front sight and a fiber optic front sight from Ruger also. I like how the GP has no sideplates and it is built really well. The trigger to me is only slightly harder to pull in DA, but it is very easy to feel the clicks and get it to the point of break and make good accurate shots. Or use it faster at close range if you had to. I also think the Hogue grip is excellent, and the GP does a great job of handling and heavier .357 load I use in it. The Smith wasn't as easy to shoot with a heavy load imo. I get back on target quicker being an easier to control Magnum revolver which means alot. I even carry mine for deer season now as well as it is very accurate out to 50yds. and plenty of energy at that range to take a whitetail. I do hit my steel at 100yds with it too..never do that with my polymer pistols..I am thinking of buying a Beretta 92/M9 as my next handgun. Those are very nice to shoot as well and easily one of the top 5 pistols to own,,and I like being all metal..Sig P226 is another. I carry just a Glock 43 pocket gun, but my .357 is always with me in my truck, or woods walking etc. The heft doesn't bother me at all, you get used to it..You can even use it as your main carry in the colder months easier than I thought I could have it hidden. Hoping to be able to have the Beretta while big in size for carry be my all time carry most times as well..
Springs don't wear out from being under constant compression. People store them that way for years with no issue. Its when they are constantly compressed and decompressed that causes wear on them. Even that will take years to do.
i struggle with the doubleaction trigger on the GP100, but I still love it! I have a blued one in 6 inches with Hogue grips. Also the cylinder button is so much better than the SW's which you have to slide to open.
Yeah that GP100 is a good gun. That is why I chose it twice. Got the 6 inch model and the 4 inch.
Me too... 6" stainless, 4" blue w/stainless cylinder, hammer and trigger, like the old colt pinto
I shot both 6in side by side 686 and g p100. I liked my gp100 better and i think my friend like my ruger over his smith. It just felt better in my hand. Beefier and thicker. Hogue grip helped a lot also
Great addition. These guns are beasts. I want to get a three inch at some point. I agree the locks are crap.
What a work of art that gun, reminds me of the security six.
Never had an issue with the hillary hole on my Smith's... I have a 686 + 3 inch variety...I'm buying a GP 100 in 3 inch this week as well ... 3 inch to me is the perfect carry size ..great vid...
Rugers Rock! I own three Ruger revolvers - LCR .357 magnum snub nose, SP101 .357 magnum 4" barrel and GP100 .357 magnum with 6" barrel with 7 shot cylinder. All shoot great!
I'm an avid S&W fan but if I were to buy a Ruger revolver it would definitely be the GP100. These revolvers are indeed "overbuilt" and can handle any load you can put through it. The frame on the GP100 is very hefty and as much as I love my S&W model 586, I wouldn't mind owning a Ruger GP100 one bit. Excellent revolver - Excellent value.
I’ve had the 4” and they balance well but for shooting magnum loads the 6”. is great.
Great revolver it’s a tank and shoots like a dream. This video is 7 years old and I just picked this up and got it for 600 bucks. So there ya go it holds its value...
I bought a 6" RUGER GP 100 S.S. polished. You can't hurt these guns! Will take any hot load you can put in them! I call it "THE BEAST!" Carry it when hunting in a cross draw holster because it is a bit to hard to get out of a dominant right hand holster. For Bear, just in case!
You make a good case. Only a few new S&W revolvers these days are available without the key. I bought one this past year (2016), a model 649, which had the key. I removed that. I know my way around S&W just enough to do that sort of thing. It would be hell to put back due to a mouse trap spring. I would like a good 4" .357 Magnum.
How is the trigger on that Ruger? I can't leave triggers alone. All my Smiths have had their triggers smoothed out by yours truly. I have no idea how I would do that to a Ruger. Ah! I see a video on the right side bar that talks about that.
If I went with the Smith, I would go for the + with 7 rounds. I'll stick to my J-Frame for carry. Or an LC9s. I am having one hell of a time deciding which to make my all season EDC.
my wife bought me a GP100 (4 inch bbl, blue) in '93...it's still running good. I also have an H&K USP40, but my heart belongs to "Maggie"...and my wife, of course...ya hang on to the good ones!
Yup tried a S&W M&P .45, during a qual shoot two magazine spring failed at the same time (piece of crap) all the bullets spilled out on the ground. Now these were high capacity magazines. Ended up barely passing by only putting 3 bullets at a time in the magazines. Smith of course when it was brought to their attention ignored me . Yup springs wear out especially defective ones.
I agree with avoiding the S&W locks. Even if they really don't cause that many problems (at least on the heavy guns) the fact that S&W caved to the Clintons and other bureaucrats and ruined the good looks of their guns is reason enough to avoid them. Rugers kick ass. As for the triggers, they smooth up very nicely in time.
I have both S&W and Ruger they are both great revolvers. One is forged and the other MIM . One is as to be made larger to handle the psi pressures. Nothing wrong with that, but looks can be seen as to be stronger because of size. I have one 686 plus no lock and one 642 with lock, if you don't like the lock just spend 5 min. and remove it! My GP100 3" is a great gun but feels a bit larger than it needs to be.
John Erickson
Get the sp 101 in 3" or 2.25, great little guns.
@@haroldmcdaniel9989 , yes, that's what I've got, exactly.
I have a GP100 in 22 LR with a 5.5 inch half-lug barrel. Holds 10 shots and can also shoot 22 Short and 22 Long. Love mine.
I appreciate the heads up on GrabAGun, they've currently got it for $580. 4.2 inch GP100's are currently out of stock in my area on Gun Genie and Buds wants $680
These are outstanding guns. I love mine!
I agree with most things you said about the Ruger but, Right off the bat the Ruger uses 2 coil springs instead of one flat mainspring like the Smith. The Ruger has a much better trigger than the Smiths especially the ones built in the last 20 years and I own some. I have a M10, a 629 Classic, a 642 and a M66 and I've shot a lot more over the last 40+ years. My first Ruger was a Speed 6 and 2 years ago I retired it and bought a 3" GP100 which sits next to my 2 Sp101's (a 3" 327 Federal and a 9mm), the Speed 6 and a SRH in 454. One other thing, most people choose a grip based on looks or because it feels right. Well, I learned a long time ago the best grip is the one you hit better with. Case in point, your GP100 like mine came with the same grip. Not bad but Ruger offers a compact grip for the GP100 and RH and it makes all the difference in the world. They look just like the stock ones but smaller and with my hands my fingers wrap almost completely around the grip touching the heel of my hand and that makes the revolver lock right in, it barely moves and automatically recovers from recoil. Try it, you won't believe it.
Grab a gun prices are great! Looked at a S&W Model 19, over $900 at the gun shop, less than $700 at GAG.
Compressing a spring does not do anything to it. It's the compression and decompression cycles that wear them out.
This is not true. A spring absolutely will become weaker over time when under tension for extended periods.
All materials will deform when enough stress is applied over time.
What you are referring to is fatigue. After numerous cycles the spring will also become weaker.
@@WhyPhi didnt some gun company keep magazines loaded for 5 years to show that they dont just wear out?
@@fredfour0 I don’t know anything about that. I just know that over time a compressed spring will definitely weaken.
If magazine manufacturers want to get ahead of that they could design springs that take much longer to wear out.
I’m just arguing against the original comment since it stated that they do not wear out from compression.
Perhaps it takes longer than 5 years for those specific magazine springs, but they will still eventually wear out from compression.
If there is some physics I’m overlooking please let me know, but to my understanding and education the statement “compressing a spring doesn’t do anything to it” is false.
If you need better information then try to find some credible sources (multiple sources for best info) on this since I’m just another commenter on a RUclips thread 😁
@@WhyPhi oh no you are correct about the physics. The correct statement the commenter should have made was that "compressing magazine springs causes negligible wear".
I just got the GP100 match championship. It’s an awesome piece.
i BOUGHT MINE 6 MONTHS AGO....sorry caps and this is THEE finest built revolver hands down ! After shooting it i immediately bought myself another and (carry both) and bought my wife one last week.It is built like a TANK i already put in over 1,000 rounds of 357 158 grain and can say this,you would NEVER have to worry about a barrel warping on this revolver like you would a S & W revolver just saying.GREAT choice brother !!
Idk about being the best, I have a Super Blackhawk Ruger and it's also built like a tank.
+Shang Hunter Barrel warping LOL HAHAHAHAHA where in the hell did you come up with that idea lol?!?!?!
+usa2012 most all the rugers are some darn good guns, and I say that having owned a bunch of various ones, but while they are very strong are almost unnessarily so to the point of being overly chunky and lacking the fine refinements of the Smith and wessons or colts, even the run of the mill ones, and get a performance center smith or an older pre lock pinned and reacesed era smith in your hands and you will really see what fine craftsmanship is supposed to be, just a thing to keep in mind ruger uses cast frames and need the extra mass to get the strength, while smith and colt are forged, a process that really toughens the metal in comparison. and just another tidbit of info I keep hearing about the smith lock thing, I have numerous smiths both with and without the lock, and while I prefer them without due to asthetic reasons, I shoot ALOT and not a single one of my lock equiped smiths from my 12 once 340 pd shooting the hottest 357 mag rounds clear up to my 500 shooting the 750 grain hollow point monsters has ever gave me one single issue were the lock is concerned, so quite frankly I would have to call bullshit on the lock issues guys are having, and would have to chalk it up to operator error.
+looseballs1966 You just proved you don't know anything about investment casting.
+Fred Flowers Yep you are at least partly correct I do not know it to the letter, but I do know that MIM involves a processes that sprays powdered metal of various alloy under extreme pressure and heat into a mold of sorts to form a part, and when everything goes as it should that part can have at least as good or better desired strength properties as nearly any other method of making said part, and that investment casting involves using a wax plug to make a mold of most often sand then pouring molten metal into the mold melting the wax and the metal taking its place and forming the desired part, making for a part of relatively good strength and desired dimensions with little finish machine work needed, but with 1 exception and that if something goes not so right within the interior of the part such as tiny imperfections even on a microscopic level can cause a weakness (hence just 1of the reasons ruger beefs up the frames as much as they do just in case such a imperfection is present, it is either that or X ray every part, just a little something I learned about 30 years ago while working at a foundry called Hern Iron works in coeurdalene Idaho where I lived, and from a close friend that worked at a place called Boraloy for a while that actually used that processes to make revolver frames), in the processes of forging a part you do not have such issues, and in forging you really toughen the metal by causing the molecules to pack together very tightly, and I do know that for a fact having done at least a little forging in my 50+ years on this planet, not that I was trying to make an issue of one versus the other really, just making the most common observation in comparing the main differences in apearences and of the reality that the rugers are way chunckier than the smiths or colts for this and whatever other reasons, and while not trying to dispute the good or bad about the locks just my observations, but you seem to want to make an issue over something so immaterial by making such a lame ass 1 sentence reply, well how about show just how damn smart you are and enlighten all us dumb asses and explain it to all of us mere mortals oh mighty know it all master of all, you seem to know everything about come on spill your guts, tell us all so we can know what we should or should not put our faith in. or did you just get butt hurt from being a ruger fan boy , I own at least a half dozen of all those mentioned brands and more, I just learn to accept the good and bad ins and outs that goes with each can you.
Ive been a big Smith Wesson fan for years had several of the older revolvers. I still have my model 29-3 i bought new from a local gun store at the time, but refuse to buy any of their newer revolvers. They have to many MIM parts trigger lock their just junk now compared to their older revolvers. Ruger on the other hand have always made the strongest most rugger reliable revolvers on the market. Dam near impossible to destroy even with the hottest loads reason why many hunters used them where with Smith Wesson you had to be careful are you could run into trouble. Im looking at the GP 100 right now for CCW/EDC just not sure if i want and 3 or 4inch, from what ive seen their going between 500 to 600 depending on who has them.
I use my 3", 7 shot GP100 for EDC in the colder months with a Kydex IWB holster and love it. I keep it stoked with Fiocchi Extrema Ammunition 38 Special +P 125 Grain with the Hornady XTP bullet. Very effective and recoils like a 22 in that GP100, you'll love it.
What exactly is "Rugger reliable"?
Ruger does NOT make even close to the strongest revolvers on the market! Korth builds the strongest double action.357 revolver. Freedom arms builds by far the strongest single action revolvers bar none! And while not inferior in overall strength, the reason Ruger frames are thicker than S&W frames is because they have to be because they're an investment casting where as the S&W is forged! A casting requires more material to equal the strength of a forging! Period! Simple metallurgy. And I hate to break the news to you but Ruger uses MIM parts as well. Maybe know the facts before spouting misinformation.
@@johncoleman2495 Pretty well all gun makers use mim parts now days unless their custom made. As far as Korth their more of a nich company IMO compared to Ruger or Smith. When i grew up Ruger had the stronger gun and ill stick by what i said. Ruger are built like tanks, they can take the hotter loads Smith cant. Most people will never be able to afford a Korth so thats a mute point. Freedom Arms is another very expensive fire arm as well that most will never buy. Like i said im more of a Smith person mainly because i like the design of their guns. I hate to BREAK IT TO YOU but your not telling me any thing new. Ive been dealing with guns for over 50 years ive seen most of whats out their not everything because i dont keep up with the new. I just stick with what works and the average Joe can afford. Ruger is 1 of the strongest revolvers if not the strongest out and thats just a simple fact. Look at reloading theirs loads for guns like the weaker Smiths and then theirs the heavy loads that are for the Rugers. I no my facts maybe you shouldnt try to be a smart ass no it all that doesnt maybe doesnt no. Also if really gonna talk stongest id say the guns with the brass frames design to shoot the 45-70/444 rounds would actually be the strongest if were really talking stronest revolver which will blow that Korth away all day long. SO dont preach to me about mis information dude.
@@tazdog4528 take an English class. And maybe a 3rd grade spelling lesson. Proving your ignorance is no great accomplishment 🤣
I have the 3in GP 100 but still want the 686. Both are excellent wheel guns.
I've had at least one GP100 since the revolver was introduced. It's s great revolver that will outlast generations of owners.
Here in Canada that exact Ruger sells for $999, and the 4 inch 686 sells for $889. I found that a couple of dealers currently have the 686 on sale for $799, so I went for that instead.
Yea, I paid $725 from a 1 owner the 3inch "Wiley Coyote Clapp" edition; love the good trigger, mat finish on the "Wiley" edition!
Get the grips with the rosewood insert fast.
You made the right choice. The locks on a S&W are a turnoff to many as well as the reports of barrels being installed incorrectly.I bought most of my firearms through Grabagun & Buds, never had a problem with either.
Loved my original 4” back in 1990 with wood inserts. Should have never sold it. Wanted the 5” later because it’s supposedly the “perfect” length but could not justify paying the premium price for it. Never thought I would like the 6” and the new Hogue grip but I bought one and LOVED it.
I own both 686 3” 7 shot and the GP100 4” 6 shot I prefer ?
The Ruger GP100.
I put tritium 3 dot sights
It’s my go to revolver
Have had mine for 15 years no problems yet
The frame on the GP100 is meatier because it's cast instead of forged like the Smith. They have to make it larger to have enough strength. I really like shooting the GP100, and I own a Super Redhawk Alaskan, but the metals in the 686 & GP100 simply have different properties and the 686 is just as strong in a slimmer profile. Now, fear of the lock and higher price are much more logical reasons to choose the Ruger, you can always have a trigger job done.
Excellent choice! Excellent customer service! You will past this down to your grandchild. Take care off it and it will take care care of you.
I like the sp101 .357
Bob and Donna Reynolds I have 3” barrel one and love it! Built like a tank also. My new truck gun! Only holds 5 rounds is only downside to them but oh well !!
@@burtonkephart6239 , I have the exact same gun in 3" barrel. It is also a good carry concealed weapon.
Statistically gun fire exchanges are over in 2-3 rounds. No worries.
@Samus Iran That's another statistic, but sure. The fact people HAVE guns is a powerful restraint against corrupt government and corrupt law enforcement, without even firing a single shot.
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I have the 6”.
Solid, heavy, accurate.
Military Tank designers take inspiration from these revolvers.
And I can use it as an anchor if needed.
After a nuclear war, there will be cockroaches and Ruger GP100’s.
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Love this gun. I have a chance to get one. Same one. For $450. I'm thinking its a good deal.. decisions decisions
I just paid $900 for mine. Mine is a 7 shot however.
Buy it!
I own the same gun, can't go wrong with owning a ruger, one of the best guns ever made.
I love my GP100! Why did you sell your little pocket 38's? They are great for summer carry!
Just bought one I can't wait to get it !
Nice choice Grab a Gun is a great place to buy from I have bought three guns from them. The price is always fair. I live within 45 miles from them close to where I work. Excellent choice 👍
I Purchased The Blued Finish Gp100 4" In .357. Mine Will Be Ready on The 1st Of June
I have the dealer exclusive with a 5 inch barrel. The 5 inch is a perfect compromise between 4 an 6. Way better revolver than a smith
Glad you chose a .357 mag over a .38 spec, since the .357 shoots both. Hogue grips are great, fit my hand well and help with hotter loads. Ruger revolvers have gained a reputation for reliability & durability. I like some of those features you pointed out too!
Great video & choice, I paid $ 800.00 for mine. Same one 4” barrel, truck weapon) to heavy to carry . Smooth shooter😊😊😊😊👌🇺🇸
I carry a Ruger LCR. Ruger makes a great piece. However, when compared I bought the Smith 686+ for about $800.00
I think Smith and Wesson is a better smoother gun. I did however once I had the pistol, it did have some rough burnish marks on the finish. I sent it back to Smith and for no charge they cleaned it up for me. Nice overall review.
I too chose the gp100 over the 686 and I don't regret it. From time to time, however, I don't find myself wanting a 686 also haha.
Nice revolver. I just got a blue one and put some wood grips (same shape as those rubber hogue ones) and a new front sight.
Front sight was only about $15
I love the thick top strap,S&W's I've seen some crack..If you run out of ammo,beat your attacker over the head with it,he won't get up..These are fabulous guns,I love mine..
Great vid! My first hand gun; I chose it because it's a reliable, rugged, good looking wheel gun. Forty ounces of heft; it may not be ideal for concealed carry but I have to, I will.
Hogue grips...i put some wrap-around olive green on my stainless 1911. LOVE THEM!