S&W 686 vs Ruger GP100 vs Taurus 627

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
  • This is a table top review and comparison of the Smith & Wesson Model 686, Ruger GP100 and the Taurus Model 627 Tracker. These are all 357 Magnum revolvers. We move through an unboxing and then do a point-by-point comparison of the 3. Enjoy!
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  • @rustydenison9391
    @rustydenison9391 4 года назад +163

    A friend of mine sent his older Ruger .44 Magnum was locking up. He sent it to Ruger and after about a week they called him asked him he would mind if they sent a new gun. A few days later they shipped him a new gun at no charge. Wow!

    • @Satchmoeddie
      @Satchmoeddie 2 года назад +11

      Charter Arms and Taurus also have fabulous warranties and superb customer service. S&W has high prices that come with a lot of excuses and that's about all. It is all I ever got when a Smith & Wesson arrived brand NEW and was definitely screwed up from the factory.

    • @adamb2619
      @adamb2619 2 года назад +6

      @@Satchmoeddie Ill take a Taurus and many more boxes of ammo

    • @Rattlesnake12
      @Rattlesnake12 2 года назад +9

      Ruger is a great company, they take pride in their firearms and customer service.

    • @mot0rhe4d40
      @mot0rhe4d40 2 года назад +2

      @@Satchmoeddie I have heard more to the contrary when it comes to Taurus. In fact, they are well known for having crap customer service. Never had to use Charter's warranty work. The two 44 spcl guns were good to go for their intended roles.
      I have had good luck with older Taurus revolvers. And count myself lucky that I haven't had to have first experience with the CS dept.

    • @Yettiattack
      @Yettiattack Год назад +5

      I have a gp100 phoenix after a few thousands rounds i started having lock up in one of the 6 places. I sent it in for reblue as it was a carry gun. They resolved the issue an the gun is as brand new as the day i bought it. 595 in production. Im a ruger fan. Until we talk semi auto handguns.

  • @evile1174
    @evile1174 3 года назад +51

    I have a Tracker 627 7 shot-love it! So incredibly accurate in single action

    • @erswnn
      @erswnn Год назад +4

      I'm awaiting mine....being shipped in from out of state. I reviewed my options and the 627 won.....the compensation was the deciding factor given all else is pretty much even. This is a bear gun for me.....gonna be taking my granddaughter on walks in the woods and it's got bears. I know, a .44 is a better choice but I'm also a prepper (not tinfoil hat but I do understand things happen) so I wanted the flexibility of .38 and .357 as well as those being more common to find than .44. There is also the aspect of practice. A .44 is too expensive to really practice with if the budget is low. And then there is controlability, a ported .357 will get my follow up on target faster. 7 rounds beats 6 every time, Lastly my wife is small and has RA. She'll be able to fire this easier, a .44 just won;t work and her 9mm isn't enough for the job.
      Got a Trooper but that barrel is way too long for quick draws and the trigger is a race trigger so not quite what I'd want for this purpose. The Trooper.....nickel, walnut grips and I paid $250 40 years ago. I love this gun. Just not right for the job of not being eaten by bears.

    • @spudthegreaterusa8386
      @spudthegreaterusa8386 Год назад +4

      Eric, Good points on the. 357 vs .44. I've had both, but im sorta a big guy at over 275lbs so i have a lot of compensated mass. My son is a buck 60 over 25years old, he could shoot very accurately with .38 and switch up to .357 and keep pretty reliable groups. I let him shoot a .44 and he was having a heck of a time grouping at all. so i reloaded and kept a couple emptys. I told him he was anticipating the big recoil, and of course he didn't believe me, so i told him to watch his response. sure enough, he gets to an empty chamber and jerks his wrist up. I said, "you see what you just did? " yeah..he says. Keep going and pay attention. he fired a round, went to the next chamber( an empty one again) and click-wrist jerk. He saw it twice now and realized the old man was right. I said, lets shoot the .357 because i think we just ruined your accuracy. and sure enough, he couldn't group the .38 anymore because his brain was fighting that freaking hog of a gun. So, shooting big caliber handguns can be detrimental to accuracy in even smaller calibers if you don't proficiently train with them. and even then for some, its just to hard to shake that experience out of your brain. The Taurus 627 has that ported barrel which absolutely helps with recoil over the competition. maybe the quality isnt as good, but I've had mine for a long time and am very accurate with it. Ive hit bowling ball pins at 100 yds. no joke.

    • @erswnn
      @erswnn Год назад +1

      @@spudthegreaterusa8386 Thanks for the response and anecdotal experiences. I know the .44 is a better bear gun if ALL else is equal...but all else is not equal so once I plug in the variables I come up with .357 from a ported revolver. Yep, without some serious practice I'd be jerking in anticipation of the discharge. A hit with a .22 beats a miss with a .44 so my compromise is a .,357 I can use with confidence.
      I got the gun right after my post. I really like this gun. It was dead on accurate straight out of the box. 10 yards had groups of no more than 2", using single action without really getting serious. Double action, the one I would be using if the situation becomes sudden and dangerous, were 4" groups at most. I was keeping close to 3" which I found very pleasing. It was slow, about 1.5 to 2 second intervals. I am going to hand load a boatload of .38 Special with a friend and I'll be able to do serious and realistic practicing. Then refine the work with real life rounds, the .357.
      As for quality of the gun, it seems fine...I'd use this without hesitation for low end competition...shooting for bragging rights. Time will tell if it could go toe to toe with the Trooper. The grips fit me perfectly and the porting really does make a .38 seem closer to a .22. .357 still gives it the a kick...which we accept as necessary to the job it needs to accomplish.
      If you happen to be a resident of Wisconsin or the UP of Michigan we should fine a sand pit together.

  • @waltertodd4281
    @waltertodd4281 4 года назад +55

    I have both the 686 and the GP 100 in stainless, both are about the same age. Both are excellent shooters. But the GP100 has better fitting and tighter lockup than the 686. Both have been carried on duty and have about the same number of rounds fired. The 686 has a slicker trigger but not by much. Both are built like tanks. But given the price I'll take the GP 100 every time.

    • @matthewlyness8161
      @matthewlyness8161 Год назад +2

      Gp100 allday

    • @waltertodd4281
      @waltertodd4281 Год назад +1

      @@matthewlyness8161 Great revolver, built like a tank and very accurate

    • @patriot4258
      @patriot4258 Год назад +1

      Gents I own both gp100 and 686-6 and love both. I have both of them with a trigger job and outstanding. No preference for either

  • @majorsynthqed7374
    @majorsynthqed7374 3 года назад +27

    Love my GP100 with the Hogue grip. Fits my hand like a glove. A smooth firing beauty.

  • @Matersoup
    @Matersoup 6 лет назад +28

    The Ruger's front sight is NOT drifted in. It has a release button on the front of the barrel allowing very fast swaps of the front sight.

  • @umami0247
    @umami0247 4 года назад +78

    Definitely Ruger. Not that the others aren’t good but again no lock and I like the grips on the Ruger.

    • @MPGunther1
      @MPGunther1 4 года назад +4

      @King Savage 👎

    • @flouisbailey
      @flouisbailey 4 года назад +2

      The Ruger brand is my favorite until you get to revolvers, a 357 fired 25-50 times leaves a very sore spot in my palm. My S & W do not its the frame shape not distributing the energy over the hand like the S & W. My GP 100 got a new home and plan to never buy another.

    • @Jay-qy6jr
      @Jay-qy6jr 4 года назад +2

      @King Savage smith & wesson is the red lobster of guns...taurus is more of a mcdonalds.

    • @michaeltroja315
      @michaeltroja315 4 года назад +1

      you never had a Ruger

    • @Jay-qy6jr
      @Jay-qy6jr 4 года назад +4

      @@michaeltroja315 ruger makes quality guns the diffrence between smw and them is appearance

  • @thereallantesh
    @thereallantesh 4 года назад +72

    The S&W is just beautiful. There is just something about the look of their revolvers and older metal frame semi-autos that other companies can't touch.

  • @tomrickman6131
    @tomrickman6131 5 лет назад +25

    I just got a GP100 4.2” 7shot I really like it! I’ve already shot quite a few full house 357mag loads. And it handle them like it was nothing. I love my GP100, it’s really accurate too with the right ammunition. Great video, it was very informative. Thank you!

    • @davidgreve1081
      @davidgreve1081 4 года назад +2

      I used to own a blued Ruger Service 6. It could take anything in hot loads and like nothing! Great gun in my opinion. Of replace it with a GP 100 in a heartbeat knowing what I know about their quality.

  • @magnemodi1599
    @magnemodi1599 4 года назад +14

    The last new Smith & Wesson that I bought was in the early 80s. I bought a 6" model 29 .44 magnum. The finish was beautiful with nice wood grips and a wooden case. I really loved it until I took it to the range. The first load was accurate and satisfactory. The second load left me with the hammer locked back on a live round. Had to take it to a gun smith for safety's sake. He disassembled the revolver and dumped a pile of burrs and metal shavings about the size of a nickle on his bench. He then showed me the interior and it looked like half-finished junk inside. I contacted Smith & Wesson and got no where with them. I've never bought a new gun from their company since. Ruger has great service and guns. Taurus has good service and guns. Have never had a problem with either company.

    • @Airplanetyson
      @Airplanetyson 2 года назад

      If your not LEO then S&W doesn’t care about you.

  • @ShellShock794
    @ShellShock794 5 лет назад +18

    My first gun was a Taurus 627 that I got when I was 13 so maybe I'm kind of biased but I absolutely love that gun. I can shoot it more accurately than any other pistol I've ever handled in my entire life (using single action). I've even shot many whistle pigs (ground squirrels) with it.
    My only complaint is that those flat head screws need loctite because they do work themselves out occasionally if you don't.

  • @DanGleenutz
    @DanGleenutz 2 года назад +7

    All my firearms are Rugers. My GP100 is my favorite. I hand polished it to a mirror shine, and put a Hogue full rosewood grip. She's purdy. Also put an RMR on my SR9C, and planning on milling the slide. I'm a Ruger fan boy and proud of it. Great firearms at a working man's price, with the best customer service in the industry

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 2 года назад

      The only reason I don't buy Rugers is because it rhymes with boogers. I'm ocd about stuff like that. I wish they change their brand name. I also prefer the full tang of the Smiths and the forging process which produces a finer frame. Rugers probably shoots better than a Smith but overall the Smiths got the better name and better workmanship.

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 Год назад

      @@walden6272 ur concerned ruger somewhat sounds like booger..bruh. Booger even is said more like bugr rather than roogr

  • @frankmcleanjr3830
    @frankmcleanjr3830 2 года назад +2

    I have had my Taurus 627 ,357 magnum for over a decade & shot thousands of rounds of 357 and 38 special ammo through it without a hitch, I do not believe you can buy a more accurate .357 magnum revolver. Why pay more?
    F Carlton McLean Jr

  • @RomanianAlphaDaddy
    @RomanianAlphaDaddy 5 лет назад +21

    I've owned revolvers from all 3 and currently still have an S&W 627 Pro (not to be mistaken with this Taurus 627), and a Taurus 308. Both are 8 shot 357. Ruger makes one too that I'd like. I've also owned a standard GP100 like everyone else, and a Taurus 82. Anyways...Taurus gets a bad rep when it comes to revolvers. I've never had experience with any of their semi autos but they make really good wheel guns from my experience. My model 82 had a nicer "blue" finish than any modern Smith or Ruger I've seen. Their triggers always feel fine to me and I've heard of just as many bad first hand experiences with S&W and Ruger.

  • @cmj20002
    @cmj20002 6 лет назад +16

    I have a 627 and love it. It has been reliable and shoots nice. They make a good gun for the money, so it is too bad that their service is poor. The only Ruger I own is an AR556 and it is a great gun as well. I have two S&W revolvers and both are fairly old and I have never had to get them repaired. They do make a quality product and that is what you are paying for. My old model 29 has gone up in value, so for collectors the S&W is the best choice.

    • @edb3877
      @edb3877 2 года назад +1

      Agree on S&W in terms of quality and bang for the buck. I found this video interesting in that I was able to see some guns I'd never seen before.
      That said, my favorite .357 pistol is my 1981 vintage Model 19. I've shot it a LOT, with both .38-SPCL +P and full house .357 mag ammo. In fact,
      it was this pistol that got me into reloading, which is both a fun and useful hobby. I also cast 150 gr SWC lead bullets for this pistol and they work
      well for target practice. Hardening them with some tin makes them good at higher velocities too. Most of my .357 loads are JHPs in 125 and 158
      grain weights. Can't say anything about S&W service, as I've never needed any, but it is a smudge on the company not to have good service for its
      otherwise good products.

  • @Fugettaboutit
    @Fugettaboutit 6 лет назад +162

    7-round GP100's now available!

    • @360gokart
      @360gokart 6 лет назад +9

      If anyone is interested in the 7 shot GP100, just know some ammunition has been found to cause binding issues; in particular Blazer Brass .38 special.

    • @deadeyeguy5550
      @deadeyeguy5550 6 лет назад +4

      Bradley Smith I recently bought a 7 shot gp100 and took one shot before I got a squib load on the second one. I cleared it and was shooting fine afterwards, so I have to assume was a bad round. I was using winchester .38 special.

    • @360gokart
      @360gokart 6 лет назад +8

      Good to know. Honestly, this isn't a deal breaker for me, you just need to know what ammo works for the gun and which to avoid.

    • @DougMcDave
      @DougMcDave 5 лет назад +4

      I bought one!

    • @saleen1093
      @saleen1093 5 лет назад +10

      Just bought a GP100 model 1771 .357 seven shot and have put over 250 flawless rounds through it in both .357 and 38 special using a verity of ammo. Absolutely a bad ass gun!

  • @stuartbailey6369
    @stuartbailey6369 5 лет назад +46

    THEY ARE ALL GOOD CHOICES " HELL BUY ALL THREE " THAT WOULD MAKE A NICE COLLECTION!!!

    • @jamescarter8699
      @jamescarter8699 4 года назад

      @TheJanka51 You have a right to your own personal opinion. As worthless as it may be.

    • @guinness77100
      @guinness77100 4 года назад +1

      Stuart, THERE YA' GO! Why limit your options?
      Guns are jewelry (mostly for guys.) Except they can defend your life instead of just looking good while handing on your neck, ears, or fingers. (And a lot more affordable too!)

    • @kotmartnoskin2322
      @kotmartnoskin2322 3 года назад

      Working on that boss! 😎 So far I got S&W 686 + in 3 inch, and Taurus 627 4 inch and I’ll tell u that they are both good quality revolvers! Taurus IS smoother tho😟 I’m not kidding…

  • @Acerracer202
    @Acerracer202 4 года назад +32

    The cylinder release on the GP100 pushing IN rather than forward like on the Smith and Wesson makes for a much smoother cylinder release in my experience. In conjunction
    with the front sight release, frame design, triple cylinder lock, and even the grip tang considered, I'd readily assert that the GP100 is a better gun than the Smith. Ruger really nailed it, and I hope people won't miss out on such a fine revolver because of branding.

    • @tundraspecialops
      @tundraspecialops 2 года назад +4

      I have to agree here.

    • @504Trey
      @504Trey Год назад

      Taurus 627 Tracker the best revolver 👌🏾

  • @robertrenstrom4668
    @robertrenstrom4668 Год назад +6

    I've never experienced the flash blinding me and I have put several hundred rounds through mine. I bought it as a defensive firearm and it was very surprisingly a joy to shoot. I really had a lot of misgivings when I 1st took it to the range but it was very very accurate and the trigger pull was much better than my 586 and surprisingly enough, those goofy ribbed grips were exceptionally comfortable for looooong range sessions of full house .357. My Smith does look better but for day-to-day work I would take the Taurus 357 with me with no regrets. My Ruger is also a .357 and all of them are 3" for concealed carry. I've been shooting revolvers since 1982 and have a good fighting revolver collection and these three are among the top with my Kimber K6S being tied as one of the top contenders too.

  • @gbtriumph3216
    @gbtriumph3216 6 лет назад +54

    My GP100 .357 6" has a front sight that is easily replaceable due to a spring loaded pin at the muzzle end. No fancy tools, no rolled pins...very handy. Changes in SECONDS.

    • @joehiatt1992
      @joehiatt1992 6 лет назад +2

      That's fine if your constantly like changing front sights like underwear,I have several Ruger & Smith & never had to change either,jus sayin.

    • @EbAbDbGbBbEb
      @EbAbDbGbBbEb 5 лет назад +2

      The maker of the video said that the front sight was not pinned and only dove tailed. The ruger is a revolver that can be taken apart completely with simplicity. Replacing my sights with fiber optics was easy, just had to adjust rear windage and elevation and other people of varying skill tend to shoot it quite well.

    • @jamescarter8699
      @jamescarter8699 4 года назад

      Nice until the front sight comes up missing.

    • @maknbacon7367
      @maknbacon7367 4 года назад +3

      @@jamescarter8699 A pinned sight can disappear most likely easier than the plunger style on the Ruger. The Ruger has a double dovetail retention, if you will, and makes changing over to a fiber optic a 10 second job for the meticulous.

  • @viewsandreviews180
    @viewsandreviews180 5 лет назад +28

    While I really like the S&W (I owned a 686). I learned to love Ruger I’ve recently acquired a Taurus Tracker in 44 (I got great deal on this one used) and have found it to be very well made. I call it my Taurus “Tacker” due it’s consistently tight groups.

    • @markterrell3594
      @markterrell3594 4 года назад +4

      I just bought the Taurus 44 Tracker! It should be in next week. I can't wait to get it on the range!

  • @projectblack2462
    @projectblack2462 4 года назад +42

    I used to prefer the smith due to its use of forged parts over Rugers investment cast parts. That is a superior choice of materials. Then i got one of each, the ruger years after the Smith. The Ruger is a superior design. Much simpler mechanism than the Smith. The one piece frames are way cooler than the removable sideplate. Much easier to disassemble. Cylinder lockup is comparable to the smith,but i found the front to back play on the cylinders as well as the gap between cylinder and bore to be better on the Ruger. Triggers i also think the Ruger gets the edge by a narrow margin. Overall, i love my Smitty, but i dont think ill buy another. Ruger, however, I've got my eye on the sp101 in .327 fed magnum and the 8 shot .357 redhawk. The rugers are heavier and bigger. But even though they are cast id put money on them being tougher too. Ammo manufacturers like buffalo bore seem to agree. The Smith i suppose is prettier as it is a bit more streamlined. But no gun lock is a bigger advantage imo. And they both handle great when shooting. The Rugers I've handled seem a bit nose heavier maybe. But I've had good results drilling with both. Maybe one day ill come across a model 29 that i can't live without, but Ruger is by far my favorite revolver maker. The BFR by magnum research is another favorite. The tolerances on that gun are tighter than any gun at that price point and far beyond. But thats a different animal altogether.

    • @rogerspaugh1639
      @rogerspaugh1639 Год назад +1

      😢

    • @hardball107
      @hardball107 Год назад

      I have many Rugers, Smiths and a couple Taurus' and I agree with you. I have one of the 3" SP101's in 327 Federal Magnum, I shoot both the Federal mags and H&R's thru it. I EDC with it and can't recommend it enough. The extra weight isn't noticeable and helps to manage recoil of those 327's, I'm seeing just over 1500fps with the 3" barrel and American Eagle 100gr loads. It's a ball to shoot.

    • @sammcrae8892
      @sammcrae8892 5 месяцев назад +1

      Rugers are TOUGH! You will probably wear out before one of their revolvers do. My first handgun was a stainless Security Six, and after several years of full power .357 factory and hand loads, it was as tight and solid as the day I got it, and the trigger improved over time. Unfortunately, I gave it to my dad and he loaded it to someone else and we never saw it again. I LOVE my S&W 4" 686+, but I would love to have another Ruger.

  • @eml3148
    @eml3148 3 года назад +9

    I own a good bit of guns and my GP100 with the inlaid wooden grips is my all time favorite.

    • @d.s7741
      @d.s7741 3 года назад +1

      funny there was no mention of disassembly. The Ruger has no sideplate, and the internals drop down out of the frame. Once you take the grip off, you can field strip the Ruger w/o tools. The barrel of the Taurus is "pinned" in. And only one of the three have a triple locking cylinder

  • @ssgsabr8444
    @ssgsabr8444 6 лет назад +210

    Ruger all the way, I prefer a company that knows how to properly screw a barrel on straight.

    • @jaimesanchez5237
      @jaimesanchez5237 6 лет назад +3

      Saber Jones I got a gp100 about a year ago love it

    • @cultofmalgus1310
      @cultofmalgus1310 5 лет назад +13

      S&W has lost their touch and is quickly losing their credibility as well.

    • @iLLBiLLsRoastBeats
      @iLLBiLLsRoastBeats 5 лет назад +3

      I love my 686 SSR. Was always a Ruger guy for pistols/rifles before but I’m glad I got the smith. I think for 44 mag though I will go with a redhawk

    • @fujinwinds2514
      @fujinwinds2514 5 лет назад +3

      Buuuuuurrrnnn!

    • @harrycallahan692
      @harrycallahan692 5 лет назад +13

      The Smith and Wesson quality has gone downhill! The Hillary Hole also sucks!

  • @kenwingo4862
    @kenwingo4862 5 лет назад +15

    Taurus shoots great is softer shooting than 6 inch S&W 686. Taurus is a totally new company building in Miami soon to move to southern Georgia. Customer service has done a 180° . Love shooting my Taurus.

    • @JBJHonez
      @JBJHonez 3 года назад +1

      I've got a tracker 44mag 6" and it's fun to shoot

  • @OldSkaterGuy
    @OldSkaterGuy 3 года назад +11

    I've owned, own all three. The Ruger shoots the best. I like the look of the S&W better but enjoy target practice more with the Taurus. They are very fine sidearms. Bit If I had to choose one, it would be the Ruger. He is right, the Taurus needs a new grip.

  • @wolfmanrebel874
    @wolfmanrebel874 5 лет назад +21

    I like the taurus just fine depending on which one,however, a girl I use to work with got a taurus to keep because she felt she was being stalked, she kept the lock system locked in her purse ,one night to her car she was approached ,she drew...it was locked...but that was ok cuz homeboy got knocked the Fu*k out with a model66 and arrested ,this is another reason why I don't mind the(limited) capacity of revolvers cuz they also make great hammers

    • @Rareed63
      @Rareed63 3 года назад +3

      yeah Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke use to crack bad dudes over the head with his six shooter

    • @Naltddesha
      @Naltddesha 3 года назад +1

      🐮 💩

  • @wheelietime7062
    @wheelietime7062 6 лет назад +9

    I've shot both 686 plus and Taurus tracker. Both 7 shot and accurate. I'm not too much into the blocky look on the ruger. Porting on the tracker makes is easy too shoot all day. 3 great wheel guns

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 4 года назад +6

    I've had the Taurus Tracker 627 with 4" barrel for several years. Replaced the squishy grips with Pachmayr Diamond Pro Grip for Tracker. I also added a black cerekote finish to it. Also, I've never been blinded by flash from the ports.

    • @OOICU812
      @OOICU812 4 года назад +1

      Have you shot it under low light conditions?

    • @Me2Lancer
      @Me2Lancer 4 года назад +5

      @@OOICU812 Yes

    • @huyked
      @huyked 2 месяца назад

      @@Me2Lancer
      10:32 Would you say what the reviewer said in his review is anecdotal and only a guess, not real-world experience?
      10:45 He said his personal experience was with a Glock (seeing spot from the bright bang), and so I'm guessing it was his conjecture with the .357 Tracker?
      With you, how low light of a condition would you say you shot the Taurus Tracker 627 in?

  • @deanlaughlin2482
    @deanlaughlin2482 4 года назад +1

    Three great revolvers! I personally own a S&W 686 that I purchased new in 1997 and it is one of my favorite firearms... very accurate and extremely dependable.

  • @tjmooremusic
    @tjmooremusic 6 лет назад +7

    Just want to say you did a great review my friend !
    Thanks so much.

  • @Chieflywaze
    @Chieflywaze 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent review! Thorough and presented well! Thank you!

  • @rc4life315
    @rc4life315 5 лет назад +9

    I like the way the tracker looks over all but would but any of the three

  • @poco01x
    @poco01x 5 лет назад +32

    I've had a Taurus Tracker since they first came out, so about 14 years now or so. I have to say, it's been very reliable over the years, and without a doubt, has been the most comfortable to shoot and the most accurate .357 I've ever owned. Accurate shots at 50 yards are very easy to do and those who see it perform are really surprised to find it's a Taurus.

    • @projectblack2462
      @projectblack2462 4 года назад

      Mixed feelings about Taurus revolvers in general. Ive seen a few that were prone to light primer strikes. The build quality is noticeably inferior to the smith and ruger. BUT! One of my first pistols ever was a Taurus Ultralight. 5 shot titanium frame with the gold finish. I miss that thing. It was a snappy little shooter and never hiccuped once. Ive always regretted selling it.

    • @markterrell3594
      @markterrell3594 4 года назад +5

      I have the Taurus Tracker 692 .357 Magnum and the Tracker 44 Magnum. The .357 is the best revolver that I have ever owned! And yes, I've owned Rugers and S&W's.

    • @brandonstroud5148
      @brandonstroud5148 3 года назад

      Agreed. I have the 357 non-Tracker version, and a Tracker 44 mag. Love them both, and everyone that shoots them loves them too. Mine don’t have the ribber grips. My 44 came with what looks like Taurus logo hogue grips.

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 6 лет назад +17

    Good presentation. I have the Taurus 627 and have added Pachmyr grips which offers significant improvement.

    • @wipatriot510
      @wipatriot510 5 лет назад +1

      Hogue also makes a Monogrip for the Tracker line...

    • @digaoturbo
      @digaoturbo 4 года назад

      I'm from Brazil and I have one about two years. I just can't get used with the factory grip, it's horrible, I'm looking for Pachmayr #02473 but it's discontinued. I really would like to try the Pachmayr one, but if I don't find some I'll get the Houge 73000. Wich one would be better? There is another model from pachmayr that would fit this model?

  • @SteveWhiteDallas
    @SteveWhiteDallas 3 года назад +18

    If you look, you'll notice that the cylinder stop notches are centered directly over the cartridge bores on the Smith and the Taurus. Now look at the Ruger. The off-set provides for a little more "beef" right over where the explosion occurs. Also, the Ruger's cylinder snaps into the frame, as opposed to the end of the ejector rod snapping the cylinder in place. The finger-groove wood grips on the Ruger feel so good. If you hold it, you'll buy it. With a 3" barrel, the Ruger is almost 2.5 pounds, but it creates a perfect balance for a short barrel.

    • @rayjfroehlich84
      @rayjfroehlich84 2 года назад +2

      L

    • @Airplanetyson
      @Airplanetyson 2 года назад +1

      @@rayjfroehlich84 your like 50 years old handing out L’s lmao

    • @jessemiller3001
      @jessemiller3001 2 года назад +1

      Love my GP100. very accurate, never had a problem. My perceived opinion is that Ruger over builds. and S&W makes more slender.... If I was carrying it may matter. but I dont so.... Ruger gets the win.

  • @timorourke7868
    @timorourke7868 4 года назад +10

    Great job Chris! A very descriptive, analytical show. I have been looking at these three 357s revolvers online, I only have a Glock 21SF and want a wheelgun. I am going for the Ruger GP 100. Thx again!

  • @GunCollector007
    @GunCollector007 6 лет назад +80

    I like the GP100

  • @mr.thickey1820
    @mr.thickey1820 5 лет назад +1

    "Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! One of the BEST gun reviews! It really helps to compare like guns! Mr. Thickey has schpoken!!! "Gesundheit"!

  • @gorillahd9247
    @gorillahd9247 4 года назад +1

    Excellent overview of all three. I own two .357 mag GP100's and my .44 mags are S&W 629's. I also own a Taurus Tracker 970 .22 lr. All have served me well.

  • @CxOrillion
    @CxOrillion 6 лет назад +12

    Small correction on the GP100. The front sight is not drift pinned. It has a spring loaded pin accessible above the muzzle. Just push the pin and the sight will pop right off. Super convenient! Not that you pop your sights off all time though... Also, SKUs 1771, 1773, and 1774 of the GP 100 are 7-shooters.

    • @Wedgetail96
      @Wedgetail96 3 года назад +1

      Yep, good to actually know your product when you decide to do a review. The author had an obvious S&W preference.

    • @tundraspecialops
      @tundraspecialops 2 года назад +1

      @@Wedgetail96 the reviewer was fairly unbiased throughout the review for the most part until the end.

  • @sandienochs6132
    @sandienochs6132 3 года назад +4

    I bought the stainless GP100 when they first came out, now that is one nice gun. After getting used to the cylinder release, I think it’s the best system out there. That push button release is so natural, if you own one, you know. If you don’t, try it before you plunk down your hard earned money on a more expensive gun.

  • @Ostrich101R
    @Ostrich101R 5 лет назад +5

    Great review & comparison of popular revolvers. 357 is a caliber I’d love to have & would probably choose the Ruger GP100 with the S&W 686 a close second.

  • @Luis-et7jk
    @Luis-et7jk 6 лет назад +1

    Great video! Looking forward to the next ones!

  • @panzerabwerkanone
    @panzerabwerkanone Год назад +2

    My Ruger GP100 (just like the one reviewed) is a tank. Bought it over 30 years ago and not a single problem ever. It is my very first handgun I bought and will never let it go.

  • @Theywaswrong
    @Theywaswrong Год назад +4

    Smith and Wesson if you like it for show, not much go. For lots of use, the Taurus 627 fits the bill. May not be showtime for friends, but does what the Smith does for half the price. It's been a really good, reliable revolver. I'm just now looking at the 44 magnum version, probably get it as I don't own any kind of 44.

  • @joeseadiverjoe1897
    @joeseadiverjoe1897 4 года назад

    Watched this video twice listened carefully to what you said and purchased my my first Smith &Wesson revolver. I purchased the 686+. Thank you for this video.

  • @J.R.F.23
    @J.R.F.23 Год назад +2

    I have the Talo edition 3-5-7; 686+ in fluted with a 5 inch barrel. It’s a great revolver. The double action is heavy, yet smooth. The single action feels like one of their P.C. Editions; the trigger in single action is fantastic ‼️

  • @tomdewinter8478
    @tomdewinter8478 6 лет назад +11

    Your presentation has improved a lot from your early videos. Great info.

    • @MarksmanTV
      @MarksmanTV  6 лет назад

      Thanks I really appreciate that!

    • @MrMuppetbaby
      @MrMuppetbaby 6 лет назад +1

      And of course, You may want to limit the times you say "Of Course". Nice reviews!

    • @justifiedfan98
      @justifiedfan98 6 лет назад

      I agree, one of the best and most informative comparison vids I've seen. I've been shopping and this really helps.

  • @justabigbaby
    @justabigbaby 5 лет назад +1

    I loved your presentation. Sounds fair honest and forthright. Lot of information very educational.

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for your review. I have the Taurus Tracker and did not care for the 'ribber grips.' I replaced the grips with Hogue grips that are much more like the Ruger grips. I also had the Tracker coated with a black Cerakote finish that I really like.

  • @GLOCKCOPG23
    @GLOCKCOPG23 3 месяца назад +2

    The newest 686 models without a hammer mounted firing pin do indeed have a transfer bar safety. This is a great example of why viewers should not take RUclips videographers or even “gun shop owners” seriously as a solid source of facts/knowledge. Ask a gunsmith your questions.

  • @jpwerd
    @jpwerd 6 лет назад +14

    thanks for the video. i just purchased the taurus 627 tracker. for what i intend to use it for (leisure target shooting, possibly hunting) i think this will be perfect, especially for the cost. I own plenty of rugers, love them but if i buy a ruger revolver, im going for the redhawk when im ready to spend double what the taurus costs. 686 is a beautiful gun but im not looking to "collect" as mentioned in the video. well known, great gun, but once again, for my use, im fine using a taurus tracker over the 686.

    • @Mr00buckshoot
      @Mr00buckshoot 5 лет назад +1

      Love my Tracker. Mines flawless

    • @Paladinbr
      @Paladinbr 5 лет назад +3

      My Tracker has operated flawlessly for over a decade.

  • @markterrell3594
    @markterrell3594 4 года назад +3

    The Ruger is awesome! I do love my Taurus Trackers! The 44 Tracker is a very comfortable 44 Magnum to shoot. I also love the versatility of my Taurus 692 Tracker in .357 Magnum that also has an extra cylinder that I can quickly exchange for 9mm rounds. The .357 Magnum 3" ported barrel is my personal concealed and carry weapon.

  • @victorjohnson7512
    @victorjohnson7512 5 лет назад +29

    They are all perfectly good revolvers...

  • @EMSG2138
    @EMSG2138 4 года назад +8

    Owned 3 Taurus - 38 special, 357 snub nose, and a 9mm semi. All have been flawless. I'd go with the Tracker - not even a second thought about the other two.

  • @ethangonzales442
    @ethangonzales442 4 года назад

    This is a very well informative video I own two of the three and I learned something new thanks again

  • @kik0le
    @kik0le 2 года назад +4

    Prices have increased, at least for the S&W and Ruger. You're more likely to find them priced at about $800 on the lower end for used pistols. But for new, you can expect to spend over $1000 with taxes.
    FYI: The GP100 retails for $999.99 as of today.

    • @Spikeman369
      @Spikeman369 2 года назад +1

      Got a new 686+ for 830 + tax

    • @kik0le
      @kik0le 2 года назад

      @@bobjenkins3rd Glad to see that. Price of ammo has dropped a bit too so that's another plus.

  • @BaldwinBay
    @BaldwinBay 5 лет назад +29

    Ruger Revolver GP 100 does come with a 7 round model.

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 6 лет назад +7

    if I had to do it all over again I'd be tempted to get that tracker. light and smaller frame to cary but still 4 inches and 7 rounds. nice.

    • @bassman6619
      @bassman6619 4 года назад +1

      How does the finish hold up on the tracker stainless?

  • @pepperdog3761
    @pepperdog3761 4 года назад +1

    No nonsense, great review!! Thanks much!

  • @MAJPhilipCrabtree
    @MAJPhilipCrabtree 3 года назад +3

    I just bought a S&W 686 Plus in 3" today. It's the first revolver I've ever bought and only bought it because of a state requirement for some training I'm about to do. There wasn't much to choose from in January 2021 due to the slow down of manufacturing. This makes me feel good about my decision on this pistol versus a few others I could have chosen from including other S&Ws with longer barrels. My 3" happened to come with very nice S&W wood grips from the factory versus the black rubber grips. It looks very classy like a service revolver should. Now I have to decide which is going to catch my eye more: my S&W 686 or my Sig Sauer 1911, which I typically carry.

    • @anthonygerber8261
      @anthonygerber8261 2 года назад

      The Sig 1911 is where it's at! My buddy has that pistol and damn do I have firearms envy. That said, I really like the 3" barrels on .357 mags. My dad was a revolver guy and shot a fair amount with him back in the days. Idk, I just like the 3" much more than longer or shorter barrels.

  • @NathanIsRacin
    @NathanIsRacin 6 лет назад

    Hello from a fellow Hoosier! stumbled upon your channel while watching some other pro 2A stuff. Happy I found ya. Thanks for the detailed comparison, works well for a general comparison of the three manufacturer's revolvers as well. would really love a 686+ or a 627 Perf Center. see ya on the next video!

  • @Brett235
    @Brett235 2 года назад +2

    I have a tracker and it's a really solid firearm. I actually traded my gp100 to my son for the tracker because he's moving to Washington state in bear country and the Ruger can take the pressures of the underwood loads.

  • @WornoutRNPARAMEDIC
    @WornoutRNPARAMEDIC 5 лет назад +4

    Old gun guys always taught me that if you want to carry one of these a lot and want top quality get the Smith & Wesson. If you expect to shoot a LOT. I mean a LOT, get the Ruger. If you can't afford the Smith or Ruger, get the Taurus. Taurus has improved a lot in recent times, but IMHO is not better than the other two. It is probably OK for the use of most folks.

  • @jolebole-yt
    @jolebole-yt 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great comparison video!

  • @TheRedComyn
    @TheRedComyn 4 года назад +3

    Great review. I just picked up my new S&W 686 4" today.

    • @Zona-dw9rp
      @Zona-dw9rp 2 года назад

      I have the same and love it!

  • @ResidentGunNut
    @ResidentGunNut 4 года назад +3

    The 686 doesn't have the transfer bar safety but it does have a hammer block which works differently but is pretty much an equivalent feature. That said, there have been more than a few 686s in circulation that have either a canted or an off-center barrel which makes them a bit of a hard sell. Good thing Colt is back with the King Cobra and (reportedly in early 2020) the Python.

  • @rickbattle5706
    @rickbattle5706 4 года назад

    Really good review. Great info. Thanks!

  • @bobkstanley8844
    @bobkstanley8844 Месяц назад

    You sound like a college professor. Awesome detail. Clear voice and excellent modulation. Thanks!

  • @sordello51
    @sordello51 5 лет назад +1

    Wonderful review from any standpoint. I personally shoot the older model 6" 686 and love it. It is pure quality. I recently purchased a Taurus 992 22lr / 22 mag revolver and am impressed with it also. Hoping it holds up to hard use. I have to admit it was hard to buy as I wanted a S&W 617. The price was right and decided to go for it. Still it's a lot of money to plink!

  • @stonekold
    @stonekold 5 лет назад +40

    extra $100 to S&W is for the canted barrel, no other manufacturer offers.

    • @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead
      @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead 4 года назад +1

      Sad, but true. I just bought a 629 a couple of days ago. It’s on its way back to S&W, due to a canted barrel, and a crooked trigger...
      Never had that problem with a Ruger...

    • @jamesgreen9954
      @jamesgreen9954 4 года назад

      My 629-6 in 44mag is aligned properly. Was the misaligned 629s in 357mag.

    • @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead
      @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead 4 года назад +1

      James Green all 29’s/629’s are 44

    • @jamesgreen9954
      @jamesgreen9954 4 года назад

      Joanna Jedrzejczyk’s Forehead Thanks for the info, I only own 2 S&W revolvers, my grandfathers model 36 and my 629. I didn’t know the 629 only came in 44mag, I was thinking it came in 357mag but I know the 629 is on the big N frame so your info makes sense. I switched to a Glock around 1996 and now carry an FN 509 midsize in 9mm now for capacity most of the time. However it’s impossible to beat the beauty and good looks of a nice revolver. Thanks again for the info.

    • @tmj5716
      @tmj5716 4 года назад

      @@JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead wow

  • @brianbbb7931
    @brianbbb7931 3 месяца назад

    I actually had a great experience with Taurus customer service. They took care of the problem and sent me my gun back with a new case. They handled the problem quickly.

  • @GunSam
    @GunSam 6 лет назад

    Your website is well put together, very easy to navigate.

  • @kentuckytim4443
    @kentuckytim4443 4 года назад +14

    Hmm... I can’t decide... I guess I’ll take one of each. 😉

  • @MrNightStand
    @MrNightStand Год назад +2

    I love my 686 and oh man it's easily the safest gun I have ever owned. Aside from that, I got mine with the six inch barrel and I'm waiting on the shoulder holster for it to come in the mail.

  • @stevendeatley4878
    @stevendeatley4878 5 лет назад +4

    Ruger is great their coustomer service is great, I have a old Mini-14that was my fathers old rifle and when I got it he had someone at a Gun shop somewhere replace a broken fireing pin in it and they had lost the small gas bushing under the barrel that directs the gas down to the operating rod .I called Ruger and all they asked me for was the model and serial number ,and they mailed me the part I needed free of charge, along with some screws for the gas block thats at the front of the stock .

  • @jimkubitza3820
    @jimkubitza3820 4 года назад +1

    I have the Taurus Tracker in 41 Magnum and love it.

  • @TheAlice1865
    @TheAlice1865 5 лет назад

    Excellent video! I love my Ruger GP100 with a six inch barrel. Mine was made in 1990 or 1991 and is sill like new!

  • @Jewelrymaker
    @Jewelrymaker 6 лет назад +37

    I love the S&W revolvers!

    • @flouisbailey
      @flouisbailey 4 года назад +3

      The Ruger brand is my favorite until you get to revolvers, a 357 fired 25-50 times leaves a very sore spot in my palm. My S & W do not its the frame shape not distributing the energy over the hand like the S & W. My GP 100 got a new home and plan to never buy another.

    • @falcofurious
      @falcofurious 3 года назад +3

      @@flouisbailey Sounds like a personal problem.

    • @flouisbailey
      @flouisbailey 3 года назад +2

      @@falcofurious You are correct sir, retired chiropractor, my hands have for over 30 years have been protected from trauma wearing gloves ect. You tuff guys do what you want, I wanted another S&W as they don’t hurt me. Only my opinion, don’t b i t c h me out like like some creep did on another topic. We are on the same bus 🚌.

    • @falcofurious
      @falcofurious 3 года назад +1

      @@flouisbailey Lol sounds more personal problems. Take the hint. Buy what you want, but don't pretend like it's something wrong with the Ruger

    • @MajimaGoro8
      @MajimaGoro8 3 года назад

      @@falcofurious You seem pretty insecure.

  • @sammcrae8892
    @sammcrae8892 5 месяцев назад

    I love my 4" 7 shot 686+! Very smooth double action trigger, and the single action is the best trigger I've EVER come across. Rather heavy for carrying around the homestead, but it's a very easy shooting revolver even with the hottest .357 rounds you can get. Absolutely the finest handgun I've ever owned, and I've had quite a few over the years. My wife gave it to me for Christmas one year! Both are definitely KEEPERS!

  • @davevachon5025
    @davevachon5025 5 лет назад +18

    Good review. I'm a Ruger fan myself but would own any of them. Just wanted to mention that you missed the fact that the Ruger locks up in the front of the frame as the others do not. Also, you can not blow up a Ruger even if you tried, I over stuff my reloads and the GP100 is still solid as the day my wife bought it for me 30 years ago, in blue I might add, beautiful gun to this day.

  • @GaudialisCorvus
    @GaudialisCorvus 5 лет назад +2

    Great review!

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z 5 лет назад +21

    I Like my taurus has been reliable/accurate so far and fun gun to shoot. Bought it as a Zombie, Wilderness defense weapon to compliment my shotgun...👀👍

    • @travisj.1938
      @travisj.1938 4 года назад +2

      Grear choice! Considering the new 892!

    • @dragin44
      @dragin44 3 года назад +1

      I know right I got the 9 mm GTC and that’s in the top 10 all around the world 9 mm you should buy right now they say and it’s not a lie, it’s the most accurate medium and even long range 9 mm I’ve ever shot a 38 special Taurus oh that’s my baby right there at Eleanor she is just as accurate single action is better I was kind a hoping for a better, double action revolver, but I am satisfied with it I got a great sense already of my guns that I’ve only owned for the last 4 1/2 five months, I have a bad how much pressure they’re going to take before they go off. I don’t think this guy knows what he’s talking about I think he’s just looking up stuff and he literally is reading out what he printed and I’m not gonna ask him any questions because he’ll just Google it 357 magnum that I bought and he’s trying to say Taurus is just garbage and I am sorry there’s a little bit of a gray area it’s like Brazil make some I guess but then they say it’s made in USA one minuteThen I say Taurus somust is a little bit weird '

    • @ferrumchnop6617
      @ferrumchnop6617 3 года назад

      @@dragin44 wat. *hmm racist and a child interesting.

    • @dragin44
      @dragin44 3 года назад

      @@ferrumchnop6617 Am I speaking in tongues the Taurus G2 C is top 10 if not top five most accurate 9 mm Glock’s that you can ever buy for the price learn to read people learn to read reiterate you know whatever word means probably not you but I think it’s something that comes out of your mamas the China didn’t even get to work because you’re here

  • @jaywilkins7383
    @jaywilkins7383 Год назад +1

    I just recently purchased a Ruger GP100 . I could not be happier.

  • @jaynone9262
    @jaynone9262 3 года назад +1

    Glad to see all the good comments on the Ruger GP 100...My wood grips look nice but probably not as comfortable to shoot.

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform6747 4 года назад +5

    My Taurus back too there shop 3 times ... Long wait , sold it !

    • @TheMossbergg
      @TheMossbergg 4 года назад

      Wise decision..the best warranty is the one you never have to use

  • @merc6
    @merc6 Год назад +2

    I've had a 686 and the 627. Both are not bad. Both very accurate. Had a issue with the Taurus. The cylinder locked up and I had to send it back. Seems to be fine now. I not longer have the 686. I also believe the 627 is a bit softer shooting than the 686. All 3 are good choices in my opinion.

  • @nmelkhunter1
    @nmelkhunter1 Год назад +1

    Great review. I have the 686 and the 627. I equate the 686 to being like a Pre 64 Model 70 and the 627 to a modern model 700 with the synthetic stock that was made to pre buyout of Remington when everything went to hell. The former is a great shooter and collector's item, while the later is a great hunting tool.

  • @willharrison7731
    @willharrison7731 6 лет назад +5

    Even though I have 3 S&W 686 s but out of the 3 I'd take another S&W preferably a pre-lock
    ..You usually get what you pay for. (with the exception of the over priced Colt Python)

  • @brucewisor1569
    @brucewisor1569 5 лет назад +7

    I have had recent Taurus customer service experience with a Judge that I had to send back in. The cylinder had stopped turning in single action and you could free spin it. They told me up to 12 weeks which I thought was a little long but ok, it will be fixed for free. Well, it came back 7 weeks later to my home and worked perfectly! Before the repair I had at least 5500 rounds through it, mostly .410 but at least 1500 . 45 LC. I honestly think the problem was caused because I was shooting some really hot 3 inch .410 through it and I think that was the cause. It had eaten Federal Premium 000 buck, Winchester SuperX 000 buck, Hornaday .410 Triple Defense and Winchester PDX1 for handguns for thousands of rounds. It stopped working after firing a cylinder and a half of these hot .410 handloads! I drew my own conclusions from that but Taurus never balked and fixed it and had it returned in less than 2 months!

    • @lynnvandevander262
      @lynnvandevander262 6 месяцев назад

      I certainly love all my Taurus revolvers. My Tracker 627 four inch barrel is a very accurate, well built revolver. My Taurus six inch Model 66 in 357 mag is very accurate and comfortable to shoot. They are both awesome!! I haven’t any complaints at all.

  • @TheMossbergg
    @TheMossbergg 4 года назад +1

    Excellent review 👍🏾

  • @waynecastleman1363
    @waynecastleman1363 2 года назад +1

    Chris again excellent review 👍. I personally find good quality and value in all three of these revolver's and would own any of the three without a blink .

  • @joelscott1898
    @joelscott1898 3 года назад +2

    I have a 6.5 inch Taurus 627. 7 shots. Was only 450$ a couple years ago. Works great.

  • @tombats6428
    @tombats6428 6 лет назад +1

    I emailed Ruger about a RPR2 I got in .308, which reminded me of a mag problem that I had for a Mini14. They asked me for the SN and in a week, I had a replacement mag. Highly recommend Ruger. Unfortunately I don't own a ruger pistol or revolver, but will consider a 1911 with a 3" barrel.

  • @robertgarcia-nd7jd
    @robertgarcia-nd7jd 4 года назад +1

    upgrading the handle to a rubber grip option,is in my opinion,standard procedure.also i sure do enjoy a factory ported barrel.just over 20 yrs ago my non-ported 5" GP100 digested excess of 10,000 rounds of almost every magnum,38special,+P,+P+ factory load available during that period,including variety of reloads,flawlessly.w/the only issues i experienced was much needed improvements to my shooting abilities & a deeper love for that gun.favorite factory loads to run in that model were the Speer GDHP in their lightest option available,if i remember correctly 115grain.i know many ppl dont concider high price ammunition a "target round" suitable for the range but thats what i did & Speers 357golddot was by far the best match up to shoot from Ruger GP100.

  • @neilbishop1686
    @neilbishop1686 5 лет назад +5

    I'll take all three ..thank you

  • @hardybirch3630
    @hardybirch3630 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent...thank you very much, really thoughtful and helpful.

  • @joelscott1898
    @joelscott1898 3 года назад

    One of the few times I've ever used the Taurus lock feature was when I was transporting it to the range.

  • @jeremiahjohnson9908
    @jeremiahjohnson9908 4 года назад +26

    Taurus is actually the best buy on the table for what you get. I put upward of 25,000 rds. through a Taurus 94 before the transfer bar broke and Taurus fixed it, refreshed the springs and had it back within a couple of weeks at 0 cost to me.

    • @DoubleTap1115
      @DoubleTap1115 Год назад +1

      Taurus sucks. Shot fails on DA. Durability. Warranty issues. Jesus tell me you're cheap without telling me you're cheap!..

    • @feartheoldblood
      @feartheoldblood Год назад +2

      ​@@DoubleTap1115 jealous much?

    • @DoubleTap1115
      @DoubleTap1115 Год назад

      @Keith jealous of what? A Taurus? Yup, you got me.

    • @feartheoldblood
      @feartheoldblood Год назад +2

      @@DoubleTap1115 are you gonna cry all day now?

  • @alb.1911
    @alb.1911 4 года назад

    Thanks, nice comparison very useful.