Great video. I really appreciate the comparison of these two comparable bags. I loved the fact that you actually packed items into them to do a volume comparison. I spent some time checking out both in a store and just didn't really feel like the Patagonia bag had more space. It was good to see that to show true here too.
Thanks! I was curious because the Osprey bag looked bigger, even though it was listed as smaller. I think I'll start doing a volume comparison test on all my reviews now 👍
@@OneBagTravels Have you had the chance to look at the Marmot Long Hauler Duffel series? The small lists as 35 liters and the medium at 50 liters. The thing that really interests me is the fact that they have two end pockets that both seem plenty large. The one downside I feel both of the bags in this comparison is lack of good separate pockets for keeping things organized.
@@spydre8 I have not looked at the Long Hauler yet. It looks really similar to the Osprey Transporter. I was considering looking at this one, as well as the North Face Base Camp. I might have to go buy some more bags! =) I think the good and bad thing about duffels is they don't have internal organization. Some people like them because they are simple, but on the downside they lack organization.
@@OneBagTravels yes 😭 I finally decided on this bag, till I found out the shoulder strap is gone. Now I need to reevaluate everything again 😭 would be amazing if you could do a travel/duffle bag 2024 update on your site. I read the 2020 one yesterday, which was awesome, but all the bags have been changed (and downgraded) now four years later.
It's obvious that Patgonia was, shall we say, describing their duffel volumes in a genourous fashion. The new line from Patagonia reduced the capacity but increased the dimensions. That's right - the new Patgonia 55L Black Hold Duffel bag is BIGGER than the old 60L.
Generous is right! 🤣 The same is true for the 40L duffel. The previous version was 45L duffel, they removed it from the website then it reappeared a few weeks later as the "Patagonia Black Hole 40L", but with exactly the same dimensions as the 45L! I haven't had a chance to buy the new version yet, but I suspect it's the exact same bag with a different name. But, I gott say, kudos to Patagonia, at least they acknowledged their mistake and took steps to fix it 👍
The real value in the pantagonia bag is it’s ability to fold into itself so you could essentially pack it as an extra bag when travelling to take back extra items from your trip It’s not meant to be comfy. It’s meant to be portable
Sorry but have you actually tried to fold that Patagonia bag into itself? I have been shopping for these bags and that's one of the things I tried to do at the REI store. None of these are particularly easy to fold, but the Black Hole was near-impossible. I fought extensively with it but could not get it back into it's self-pack zipper compartment. So I asked the REI staffer to show me and then watched as he struggled for 5 minutes, really working up a sweat trying to force it back together, and eventually barely forcing it under the zipper in a stiff, awkward, messy lump. He said they really aren't meant to be packed up like that once they've been opened -- not a very satisfying explanation.
Great video. I loved it, very descriptive and useful. I'm traveling to Europe for 1 month and I'm looking for a backpack like the ones you showed, but none of them have “padding on the back”. Do you know of a bag that has a lot of space to store clothes, that I can take on the plane as a carry on and also that is comfortable to carry as a backpack?
So if the interior pocket can be accessed from both inside and outside, is that not a security vulnerability when travelling? You can obviously lock the main zip, but are you not leaving an entrance on the side? Thanks.
Thanks. I think I might get the Osprey.. even with the brands. Durability?? I will be in C.A And S.A. as well as Bangladesh, Nepal ECT ECT... I do change out my bags alot.this will be my 9th packuffel. Keep up the good work.
@@OneBagTravels The Mystery Ranch 40l looks really good as well.. this will be a carry on ...and I will have a checked wheeled bag. Durability Versatility and Abrasion Resistance are the main issue . So what do you think of the 2 bags?
@@chrisputnam4616 Durability and abrasion resistance wise, the Mystery Ranch Mission Duffel shadow color with 1000D Cordura is probably the best. That fabric will stand up to almost anything, but it's not water proof. The black color is the 840 nylon with TPU, so it's going to be almost identical to the Osprey. The Patonia and Osprey use very similar fabrics. Black hole is 900D ripstop, and Osprey is 840D nylon (not ripstop). Both have a TPU coating, a waterproof laminate which is very durable but will eventually scratch or peel if you are too rough with it. I'd say the Patagonia is slightly more durable than the Osprey, because the TPU looks a little thicker, but it's not significant.
Looking at this again it seems major problem with Osprey is you can't comfortably do top carry like a normal duffel, major problem with Patagonia is your can't carry comfortably as a backpack... I suspect you're done with Duffels but if one were to come your way I would be curious to see how a Marmot stacks up. They seem to have some sort of hand hold that gather the backpack straps together to make top carry an option.
The Patagonia looks nicer and more of a duffle. The Osprey looks more like a hybrid backpack. Whenever I see hybrids I think, just use a backpack. A duffle should be a simple duffle bag. I just wish the interior compressions straps on the patagonia were designed better.
The Osprey is definitely more like a backpack. But the new version of the Patagonia doesn't have a shoulder strap, which makes it harder to carry like a duffel. But you're right, when you put better backpack straps on a duffel, at some point the style kind of blends into a hybrid backpack.
Thanks! The 60 liter black hole duffel might be a little big for a carry on, it's 25" x 13" x 10", while the max carry on size for many US airlines is 22" x 14" x 9". It's also going to be pretty heavy to carry around 60 liters on your back with those straps, so I wouldn't do it if you're going to be carrying the bag for long periods of time.
I've used the Osprey Transporter 65 as a carry on even on smaller planes for domestic travel and not really had issues getting it to fit in any overhead bin. The real trick is to not pack it right full. If you leave just a little "squishing" room then you can make it squish into the right shape to fit.
Patagonia "Black Hole" sounds cool, but the duffel fabric and HUGE BILLBOARD branding is clearly intended as Chihuahua carrier for high heel lipstick floozy who can't get noticed enough with pointy plastic inserts
Great video. I really appreciate the comparison of these two comparable bags. I loved the fact that you actually packed items into them to do a volume comparison. I spent some time checking out both in a store and just didn't really feel like the Patagonia bag had more space. It was good to see that to show true here too.
Thanks! I was curious because the Osprey bag looked bigger, even though it was listed as smaller. I think I'll start doing a volume comparison test on all my reviews now 👍
@@OneBagTravels Have you had the chance to look at the Marmot Long Hauler Duffel series? The small lists as 35 liters and the medium at 50 liters. The thing that really interests me is the fact that they have two end pockets that both seem plenty large. The one downside I feel both of the bags in this comparison is lack of good separate pockets for keeping things organized.
@@spydre8 I have not looked at the Long Hauler yet. It looks really similar to the Osprey Transporter. I was considering looking at this one, as well as the North Face Base Camp. I might have to go buy some more bags! =)
I think the good and bad thing about duffels is they don't have internal organization. Some people like them because they are simple, but on the downside they lack organization.
Your bag comparisons/reviews are very detailed with extremely high quality content. Thanks for putting these together!
Thanks B, glad you like them =)
Use my transporter 40 on ryanair all the time. No problem getting on the flight with it 👍
Nice! Thanks for the info 👍😀
Same here. Love my transporter. Never had an issue using it with easyJet or Ryanair.
Hi!! Did you use it as an overhead bag or under the seat? Do you think it could go under the seat if not completely filled?
Thanks for the review. The capacity comparison especially was very useful! :-)
You're welcome, glad you liked it!
Amazing review, thank you! The new version of the transporter doesn’t have the shoulder strap anymore 😓 which is a huge downer
Dang, they should have kept that!
@@OneBagTravels yes 😭 I finally decided on this bag, till I found out the shoulder strap is gone. Now I need to reevaluate everything again 😭 would be amazing if you could do a travel/duffle bag 2024 update on your site. I read the 2020 one yesterday, which was awesome, but all the bags have been changed (and downgraded) now four years later.
Nice in-depth review that didn’t go on forever. Great job. 👍
Thanks! I try to keep them short and sweet 👍😀
That would be a very expensive gym bag! Great info. You made my decision.
It's obvious that Patgonia was, shall we say, describing their duffel volumes in a genourous fashion. The new line from Patagonia reduced the capacity but increased the dimensions. That's right - the new Patgonia 55L Black Hold Duffel bag is BIGGER than the old 60L.
Generous is right! 🤣 The same is true for the 40L duffel. The previous version was 45L duffel, they removed it from the website then it reappeared a few weeks later as the "Patagonia Black Hole 40L", but with exactly the same dimensions as the 45L! I haven't had a chance to buy the new version yet, but I suspect it's the exact same bag with a different name.
But, I gott say, kudos to Patagonia, at least they acknowledged their mistake and took steps to fix it 👍
The real value in the pantagonia bag is it’s ability to fold into itself so you could essentially pack it as an extra bag when travelling to take back extra items from your trip
It’s not meant to be comfy. It’s meant to be portable
True, but you still have to carry it when it's full 🤷♂️
Sorry but have you actually tried to fold that Patagonia bag into itself? I have been shopping for these bags and that's one of the things I tried to do at the REI store. None of these are particularly easy to fold, but the Black Hole was near-impossible. I fought extensively with it but could not get it back into it's self-pack zipper compartment. So I asked the REI staffer to show me and then watched as he struggled for 5 minutes, really working up a sweat trying to force it back together, and eventually barely forcing it under the zipper in a stiff, awkward, messy lump. He said they really aren't meant to be packed up like that once they've been opened -- not a very satisfying explanation.
@@quakerwildcat Lol, yeah I tried it after I got it, it's a huge pain. Haven't done it since.
Great video. I loved it, very descriptive and useful. I'm traveling to Europe for 1 month and I'm looking for a backpack like the ones you showed, but none of them have “padding on the back”. Do you know of a bag that has a lot of space to store clothes, that I can take on the plane as a carry on and also that is comfortable to carry as a backpack?
Patagonia Mini MLC is basically a little duffel with backpack straps and much better padding than the black hole pack
Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍
Thanks!
So if the interior pocket can be accessed from both inside and outside, is that not a security vulnerability when travelling?
You can obviously lock the main zip, but are you not leaving an entrance on the side?
Thanks.
Yeah, it's definitely a security vulnerability
Much appreciated, outstanding! 👏👏
Thanks, glad you liked it =)
Thank you so much for making this comparison!
You're welcome!
Excellent review! Thanks
You're welcome, glad you liked it! 😀
Thanks. I think I might get the Osprey.. even with the brands. Durability??
I will be in C.A And S.A. as well as Bangladesh, Nepal ECT ECT... I do change out my bags alot.this will be my 9th packuffel. Keep up the good work.
Osprey has a solid lifetime guarantee, so even if there was a durability issue they will fix or replace 👍
@@OneBagTravels
The Mystery Ranch 40l looks really good as well.. this will be a carry on ...and I will have a checked wheeled bag. Durability Versatility and Abrasion Resistance are the main issue . So what do you think of the 2 bags?
@@chrisputnam4616 Durability and abrasion resistance wise, the Mystery Ranch Mission Duffel shadow color with 1000D Cordura is probably the best. That fabric will stand up to almost anything, but it's not water proof. The black color is the 840 nylon with TPU, so it's going to be almost identical to the Osprey.
The Patonia and Osprey use very similar fabrics. Black hole is 900D ripstop, and Osprey is 840D nylon (not ripstop). Both have a TPU coating, a waterproof laminate which is very durable but will eventually scratch or peel if you are too rough with it. I'd say the Patagonia is slightly more durable than the Osprey, because the TPU looks a little thicker, but it's not significant.
really good job, subscribed !
Thanks!
Great work man!
Thanks! =)
Looking at this again it seems major problem with Osprey is you can't comfortably do top carry like a normal duffel, major problem with Patagonia is your can't carry comfortably as a backpack...
I suspect you're done with Duffels but if one were to come your way I would be curious to see how a Marmot stacks up. They seem to have some sort of hand hold that gather the backpack straps together to make top carry an option.
Osprey works better as a duffel carry than Patagonia works as a backpack carry. Short trips are fine, but not for long trips
The Patagonia looks nicer and more of a duffle. The Osprey looks more like a hybrid backpack. Whenever I see hybrids I think, just use a backpack. A duffle should be a simple duffle bag. I just wish the interior compressions straps on the patagonia were designed better.
The Osprey is definitely more like a backpack. But the new version of the Patagonia doesn't have a shoulder strap, which makes it harder to carry like a duffel. But you're right, when you put better backpack straps on a duffel, at some point the style kind of blends into a hybrid backpack.
Great review. Thank you!!! What are your thoughts then on using the 60L Patagonia BH instead, as a carry-on for US airline travel?
Thanks! The 60 liter black hole duffel might be a little big for a carry on, it's 25" x 13" x 10", while the max carry on size for many US airlines is 22" x 14" x 9". It's also going to be pretty heavy to carry around 60 liters on your back with those straps, so I wouldn't do it if you're going to be carrying the bag for long periods of time.
OneBagTravels Fantastic. Thanks.
I've used the Osprey Transporter 65 as a carry on even on smaller planes for domestic travel and not really had issues getting it to fit in any overhead bin. The real trick is to not pack it right full. If you leave just a little "squishing" room then you can make it squish into the right shape to fit.
"I shouldn't be able to fit all these flexible clothes in this 40L bag since I had them in the 45L Patagonia."
"Shit, they fit!"
That Patagonia bag is way smaller than they said it was. They updated it this year to a 40L version, basically the same bag with a new name 😀
Can you detach the shoulder straps completely on the bags?
The straps on the Black hole detach completely, the Transporter straps do not.
Great review, thank you so much for the help.
You're welcome! 👍
I have the 90L black hole.
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Patagonia "Black Hole" sounds cool, but the duffel fabric and HUGE BILLBOARD branding is clearly intended as Chihuahua carrier for high heel lipstick floozy who can't get noticed enough with pointy plastic inserts
Maybe why some people call it "Patagucci" 😆
@@OneBagTravels LOL ! Thanks for the reply !😎
Back padding on the back of the backpack
Exactly!
Got the 65, if you don’t max fill it it can work as a carry on as well👍🥸🇨🇦
Good to know, thanks!