How Harry Potter Movies Technically Lost Money
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Hollywood: if you pirate the movie, the actors won't get paid
Also Hollywood:
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exactly lol
This is why I hate Hollywood LOL
even though actors really do already make far more money than they honestly really should, i'd still rather that they get the money over 20th century fox , who just gives their money to disney's multinational conglomerate, who then use that money to lobby the government to put in laws that make it easier for them to make more money off us.
New plan: After the movie hits it's production costs, head to Pirate bay.
I interviewed three people. A mathematician, an engineer, and an accountant. I asked each the very same question. What is 2 plus 2?
The mathematician said "4". The engineer said "4.00" The accountant however looked around, closed the windows, locked the door, and whispered "What do you want it to be?"
I’m replying 8 months later but you inversed the roles, engineers are known for taking shortcuts and using approximations whilst mathematicians and scientists are known for the accurate and over aggressive sig fig usage
@@ben3559 could depend on the engineer. I assume NASA engineers have to be pretty precise?
@@ben3559 if engineers used approximations and shortcuts, buildings would collapse all the time
a mathematician writing just the natural number 4 makes perfect sense
Accountants and statisticians: "the numbers will confess to anything if you torture them enough."
@@thekyuwa Most engineering branches can afford to round up. Even in civil engineering, it is acceptable to simplify calculations as long as they stay within 80% to 120% of the original value. An insane amount of range if you ask me, but it works out nonetheless.
“Its only a banana, how much could it cost? 10 dollars”
Nice AD reference there :p
came here to say this haha
Me too!
i no get
ruclips.net/video/Nl_Qyk9DSUw/видео.html
Immediately came to the comment section when I heard that reference in hopes to find fellow Arrested Development fans.
I just want to point out that agents for big name stars are well aware of these accounting tricks and negotiate for a percentage of gross revenue rather than net profit.
Gross revenue is what money was made before operating costs and expenses
Net profit is after tax
You get income from the revenue as an asset
Profit or loss is Assets less Liability add owners equity this determines the value before tax.
You pay tax on income earned but not on losses procured.
Another loophole is to pay yourself an income of 20k and then pay yourself million dollars in bonuses.
All legal in the United States
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 That's not true. Bonuses are taxed as supplemental wages. Bonuses in the form of stocks are taxed based on their current value if they are fully vested on receipt. If they are stocks that need vesting, then that tax gets deferred until the date they do vest, when they could be worth much more or much less and are taxed at whatever price it is at that time. However this does have the advantage that if they choose to sell the stock after waiting a year, they'll only get taxed on long-term capital gains of 15%.
This is why many companies will instead offer options instead, which allow these employees the choice to buy an amount of stock at a certain discounted price (out of their own pocket), which are not taxable unless the employee takes the option and until they sell the option. This means they can wait a year to sell it and get taxed only on the long-term capital gains of 15%, rather than taxed upon the value of the stock when their acquire it and taxed on the selling of it. However this still results in them getting hit by the Alternative Minimum Tax but that's still much less taxes paid than otherwise.
You can also take your money to the Ozarks, launder it, and pay zero taxes. I know a guy who did it. Sort of. Its complicated.
I was just about to ask about this. I think I read somewhere that RDJ had a clause to make extra money as %gross revenue. I think he made an additional 75 million on Endgame's 4 billion+ revenue. I think they make the shell companies more for tax reasons rather than expenses, not to mention that most star actors have LLCs, which she paid by the shell companies in the same way as the movie studios...
and isnt net profit after taxes not income - expenses?
This video has a surprisingly unhealthy amount of stock footages.
He mustn't make profit so he purchases stock footages.
I stopped watching it just to listen to it. But the voice sounds like comming from commercial too :(
expecting stock footage service sponsorship in some video of HAI someday
Every HAI video is mostly stock footage...
Seth Hu He already did
I'm always shocked at the stock footage that is available ... like wtf who decided to film some of those scenes!
Imagine what the script is like
people literally get paid to make stock footage.
Yeah thanks I came her to watch how Harry Potter movies lost money now I’m just sitting here ignoring the audio and focusing on each individual stock footage clip
The stock footage in this one is less surprising than the bird pooping in the last one...
I got this exact feeling when I saw that "throwing around money" footage.
Then I couldn't help but feel how ridiculous the stock footages after that were...
It's literally called "Hollywood accounting" and has its own wikipedia page.
I feel like after the first time the actors could do something about it. Like the get the paid on profit, not net profit or they need to find a new cast for the squeal.
Yeah, Sam gets all the video ideas from a Wikipedia list called WP:interesting-articles
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Supply and demand mean actors can't really do anything about it. Don't want to accept the studio's contract? There's the door and please send in the next of the 10,000 applicants who are all looking for their big break on your way out.
Of course there have been attempts to create actor's unions and whatnot to fight back against this, but they rarely have much in the way of teeth because literally everyone everywhere has dreamed of being a star at some point in their lives, and other than the odd iconic shot there is little geographical restriction to movie making, so the studios can and do just hire actors in another state or even another country any time the locals start demanding better deals.
Its a pretty shit system from any sort of humanitarian point of view. But there's also not much that can be done about it without somehow getting a law codified not just federally but even internationally. And that's never going to happen because the very-very-rich studios have _far_ more political influence than the somewhat-rich actors.
It is fraud
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 There's a special term to guarantee your money: First Gross
They can't fake the first gross, since you get the money before the accountants get to cut your money(the accountants have to consider you in determining how much to balance, by taking your cut first)
2:00 "Don't worry, no accountants are watching this video. It's tax season, a.k.a. corporate slavery season."
But what if the accountants get sneaky and watch this video later?
This video will self-destruct after tax season.
It ain't tax season in my country. Accountants could be watching it here
And then there are us accountants who don't do tax :)
Thank you for the advice as accountant, I am thanking you. Now I know how to protect others from bad accountants.
*I can't wait to see how this relates to planes.*
Ehhhhm wrong youtuber dude
lol
PumpkinEater69 HAI and Wendover are the same person
@@vatnidd but wrong channel
The money the actors didn't make kept them from buying a private jet... or another private jet
How Stock Footage industry technically lost money
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Video: "So if dashlane pays me $100......"
Caption: "So if brilliant pays me $100......"
Can't decide huh??
Double ads Double Profit 👀
And that’s when the big bucks start rolling in...
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But why do the bananas cost $10
"here's the actual balance sheet"
shows an income statement
Come on man economists should know basic Accounting 101
the guy don't know the different...
@@campkira Just as you don't know the difference between '''different'' and ''difference''
Yeah i was like balance sheet?!? I dont see no assets and liabilities
I knew somebody would comment this.
Isn't this illegal? I thought there were laws against "paying yourself" in order to hide profits. Or am I thinking of something else?
well ik apple pays billions to a patent holding company that's ran by them
No its not illegal its virtually standard accounting practices. Hence why big companies pay so little tax.
So, when you participate in a movie, ensure, that there are specific rules in your contract which forbid this.
I think your thinking of money laundry for illegally gotten money.
L. Wolf nope, this is what they do
Dashlane: *Exists*
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I have a lot of money because I make money with RUclips i am famous i am rich
@@AxxLAfriku You aren't going to get anywhere in life bragging like that.
Well normally you don't ask for a sponsor, they just ask if they can be your sponsor
Half as Interesting: Exists
Dashlane: I am once again giving you financial support
Oof. _That_ meme didn’t age well…
"I mean it’s one banana, Michael. How much could it cost, $10?"
- Lucille Bluth, Arrested Development
Actors: want share of movie
Movie studios: so I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.
Next up:
*How Dashlane lost money in its partnership with HAI
"The security guard at my editor sweatshop, $30 to bribe Susan Wojcicki to put the video on trending,
and $20 to license the HAI initialism from Helicopter Association International" lol
Bananas are such ripoffs. He could have bought two whole cups of water with a piece of asparagus in them.
haha...i c wut u did there...
Wow I actually felt ashamed enough of watching movies on random streaming sites to rent movies on iTunes. This changed my mind. Screw the Hollywood companies.
I’m an accountant, and I can verify his accounting jokes are true.
Aren't you too busy with corporate slavery season to watch this video?
I bet they even have a way to outsmart even accountants to pay them less.
@@garreswe Yes, but with 3 screens I can have RUclips in the background so I don't go insane...
@@galileykwong7017 Not really... And we're all salaried employees so it doesn't really matter...
@@usmfan101 Have you tried sharing and comparing you salary with your co-workers?
m.ruclips.net/video/7xH7eGFuSYI/видео.html
“Just enough to buy a banana” what a reference
Hernando Malinche the show Arrested Development. A very rich character tells her grandson to go buy a banana, thinking they cost 10 dollars.
Hernando Malinche it’s basically anyone that goes anywhere different ;)
to be fair india is a special case, in that an amount of budget that would be absolutely insufficient in any other country and result in poverty, in India can actually grant you a rather comfortable existence. hell, in India ATMs spill out 100 rupee bills (about $1), compare that to Europe where most ATMs will only give you bills bigger than €20 (about $25).
10 $for a banana???
That's a very expensive banana.
"no accountants are watching this video"
hello
*loads shotgun* he said no accountants
GET BACK TO WORK!!
Obviously if you're here that means you aren't an accountant!
Go back to taxes
@TechD123 then hes no more
Stock videos: *exists*
HAI: “I’ll take your entire stock”
also
Bad Jokes: *exist*
HAI: MINE.
"People don't like giving other people money."
IRS: *U WOT MATE*
It's just a banana Michael, what could it cost, 10 dollars?
Michael? His name is Sam...oh...you're making reference to something I'm not aware of...
He lives in Luanda
It could, if its made by Apple.
Redrally arrested development
You've never actually stepped foot in a supermarket, have you?
Harry forgot to pay for his school fee for hogwarts... plus his lunch fee as well
Dumbledore probably got his tab, maybe some weird catholic priest type of loving I mean he did have the colorful robe and magical powers.
Didnt his parent left him a shit ton of money in the first film?
Lunch fee?
Robin Jin tf you on?
1:06
Sam: Dashlane
Captions: Brilliant
😂😂😂
My Power you're either stupid, rude or have a bad sense of humour.
"Profits are what fall out of the producer's pockets on the way to the bank" a Hollywood accountant told me back in the early 1980s.
Fun fact: Harry Potter all started with JK Rowling getting a suggestion from her viewers. If you want to help HAI start a multi-billion dollar franchise, suggest an HAI topic here: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfUdlvw6YgU44J8AnM2U_ZvRMyvh_CUM51LYSqF5nYJB9d1-w/viewform?usp=sf_link
If we use yours, we’ll reward you with one whole free T-shirt.
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Heh, JK Rowing. Not Rowling. Rowing.
If you see this you’ve been gnomed
@@nethascotx24 god dammit
Brooo
That accountant joke about how it's tax season is so accurate 😂😭😂😂😭😭
Accountant here
Hold up. Then it isn't accurate if an account is here
What are you doing here then? You should be working.
@@MidnightPhoenix07 it's called audit timeoff
"It's one banana, Michael. How much could it cost? $10?"
-Lucile Bluth
It is sad that this is also how the music industry works - labels usually force artists to pay exorbiant fees to rent studios that they own, even if the actual cost is nowhere near that high, just so that they can make more money...
I mean it's one banana Michael, what could it cost? Ten dollars?
Jamie Bray I came to the comments looking for this
This threw me. Is he buying his Bananas from Gwenyth Paltrow?
@@politereminder6284 It'a a reference to a show
@@matheustoremember Oh! Thanks. Which show?
@@politereminder6284 arrested development :)
Hollywood "accounting" at its finest.
The Harry Potter fella needs a good tax lawyer and accountant on his side. Transfer pricing rules would dictate pricing of transactions between related entities. If the amount paid exceeded the arm's length price to an unrelated entity, the excess paid would be disallowed. Don't see why a lawsuit or arbitration wouldn't comfortably settle this in favour of the actor (and yes, I am an accountant)😁
''It's more about accounting... goodbye everyone''
Me an accountant: a mere mortal dares challenge me?!
Seeing a typo in the description blows my mind, you actually retype each one instead of copy pasting them?
where’s the typo?
@@amelyalilyorme1247 Look at the word 'premium'
It actually said start browning instead of start browsing, but it's been fixed
Tim Gorodnitski time to oxidize
How expensive are your bananas!!!
Benjamin Brooks I can get 4 for a dollar.
It’s a joke from Arrested Development
@@DeltaDarbyLiberator ah, I see
Maybe he's licensing them from his parent company.
They’re special bananas with their own copyright that’s owned by Disney, and which you have to license from Disney to use or eat
1:10 If you open subtitles, when HAI is saying "Dashlane", the subtitles say "Brilliant"
They probably lost the money by hosting those large Quidditch games just like every nation lost money hosting Olympics
The very same accounting trick is used.
Losses keep away corporate income tax and can get money from the government instead.
That sounds illegal. Isn't this technically scamming?
Well with a sane government yes it would be scamming, but since you can just go down to D.C. and literally buy a congressman's re-election campaign you can tell the government "here make this legal as a rider on an unrelated bill".
no, not just scamming
this is legal scamming
Yeah, it's just like how in corrupt nations like Russia and most of South America, if you want to demolish a park in a middle class community and put in an office building, you need to grease the hands of some politicians with a few hundred thousand, illegally, to get that done.
But in North America, we don't have such illegal corruption. Instead the developer would make "In Liu Of" payments to the City Development Fund and City Council Pensions, which provide development credits. Once those exceed the replacement value of a park in a new area, the old park is allowed to be demolished and replaced with a modern office building. Then the new park is placed 25 miles away in that newer area with the $3m homes, leaving the old middle class area without an outdoor recreation spot.
This is totally legal and demonstrates our commitment to not being corrupt like those thugs all over the rest of the world.
@@BikeHelmetMk2 insightful comment but South America isn't a nation
@@Dall1n ...so? Brazil, Venezuela, Peru - lots of countries to pick from down there. It's mean to single one of them out, though.
But the Russians won't care. More vodka!
There is no video on this website that defines an accountant this accurately.
Also the "corporate slavery" line in relation to the insane hours accountants work around tax time is on point
Untrue, there are plenty of videos that stress how much more corrupt accountants are than this video portrays, easily one of the most corrupt and overlooked contributors to worsening conditions.
Usually I loathe stock images/video, but I'll make an exception for 3:05 😂 They are having way too much fun haha
1:22 I mean it's just a banana, Micheal! What would it cost? $10??
Imagine having bought IMDbPro for a one second shot for one video...
Where is the shot
The hollywood logo I guess
Ansh Agrawal At 35 seconds in
As a public accountant: NOT ALL OF US ARE TAX ACCOUNTANTS 😤
Hai : Ok so this video isn't about Harry Potter
Me : Ok, so it's about bricks isn't it?
Hai : Accounting
Me : Quaking!!!
Seeing how the Harry Potter series is 8 movies long, and the actors were somewhat aware that there was always going to be another movie, why did none of them ever refuse to act in the following movies until Warner Brothers stopped doing this?
Did they just not take notice of the million they were missing out on? Or did they only have this deal for like the last 2 movies?
that why u need to ask for the % of what the film makes not in profit
You mean revenue?
Which would be at most a fraction of a fraction of 1%. First rule with any films worldwide boxoffice 50% goes the theatre chains which is not a lot with the thousands of theatres and the hundreds of thousands of staff.
Advertising is expensive too a 30 second TV ad can get up to $5.6 million and that's for 1 add shown once (this years superbowl to be precise).
@@Ushio01 a fraction of a fraction of 1% of a big number is still bigger than the $0 you get if you ask for a share of net profit though 😉
The technical term would be "gross points"; as opposed to "net points". Very, very few actors can negotiate for gross points; but the ones that can have the leverage to turn an average film into tens of extra millions gross with their name alone.
“Most people don’t like giving money to other people”
Mr beast: am I a joke to you?
well he gets all of them back with his crazy view count
Damn, I didn't realise that most people were Mr Beast..
"Just enough to buy... a banana"
Boyyy what bananas you buying?
The Arrested Development reference is so subtle. Love it.
"You've never been in a super market, have you?"
That is why actors today ask for a percent of gross revenue.
You are welcome
An Accountant.
Hahahahaha. Bs. The amount of actors who have the clout to ask for this can be counted by bad lumberjack on fingers of his one remaining hand...
Hey, no accountants!
@@KuK137 they have their agents.
At least with franchises it’s hard to replace the entire cast. Imagine a different Harry Potter every movie...
Percent of 'Gross Revenue' .. are you sure? Which producer is ready to make a movie with such contract, can you please name few ?
Where do you buy your stock footage? Honest question, really want the answer.
I am SO fascinated by everything related to Hollywood Accounting. The first time I learned about the very basics of it, my jaw hit the floor.
I literally had no idea this was even possible 💀 rich people / companies are always finding ways to get richer (in kinda shady ways)
Kinda? this is about as shady as it gets without going into purly illegal
Maybe that's how "rich people/companies" are the first thing that i quoted because they find that way?
This is why actors now ask for a percentage of the gross.
Except that's common practice
@@jeeeeeeeee2977 Saying "it's not that hard" when you have a degree in financial accounting law is like me, a med student, telling you the metabolism of the liver (or idk any other organ) is easy and basic understanding. It's not. And it's easy for some people to get fooled by stuff like this because they have no idea how it works.
And i'm not saying they're stealing my money? Even if they're already paid a LOT i'd rather the actors get what's due to them that's all
4:57 sounds like a good way to get scammed imo
Bananas? Where are you getting the bananas, Starbucks?
Lucille- It’s a banana, Michael.What could it cost? Ten dollars? Michael- You’ve never BEEN to a grocery store, have you, Mom?
4:27 damn you. i was just about to make that comment
I'm here for the accounting.
You almost lost me with the (what I assume was) Harry Potter stuff at the beginning.
how does a sequel work? is it made by movie Inc? or is it a new company called Movie 2 inc?
“This video is really about Accounting”
Me, An Accountant: Happiness Noise
I'm an accountant and I'm watching this two months after this was uploaded. Corporate slavery season is absolutely right on the money.
At about 1:06 the caption says brilliant but the narration says dashlane. War of the sponsors!
Edit: timestamp
uh oh
It's 1:06
It's 1:09
Fixed the timestamp, thanks
that's why you negotiate on gross profit. the first sales job i did paid the commission part of my salary this way. in fact the boss said to me in the interview, "you must be driven by commission". i am sure more experienced actors have caught on and will negotiate this way moving forward. which side gives in will then be based on game theory and how confident each side is that the other needs them more.
Literally had to stop and rewind the video because I was so distracted by the stock footage of the boardroom moneyfight
1:23 what the hell is your countries economy? In the UK I can get at least 38 for $10 (£7.68)
Or, am I missing a joke?
Its a joke about from a tv show where a rich out of touch character said "its just a banana how much could is cost 10 dollars"
The reference is from Arrested Development.
Also, I believe he lives in Scotland, even though he is originally from the US
Here in Brazil $10 is R$43,74
ErickSoares3 and for R$43.74 how many bananas can you buy?
“It’s a banana Michael. What could it cost? Ten dollars?”
I love that arrested development joke - thanks HAI for making my day :)
Phoenix actors: So how much money did you make?
WB: Yes.
1:21 "It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"
RIP David Prowse 1935-2020
and RIP CGP Grey (xthe Penguin) too :-(
*_searches up “Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix inc._*
(I got the Wikipedia page for the film)
So theoretically no actor should gal for it...
So then can you negotiate the terms of the contract to be “ 1% of the total expenses related to advertising”?
1:22 who’s buying bananas at $10 a pop 😳 I’m tryna sell them some bananas 🤣
Was that a Tool reference? - "Lie cheat and steal"
Just needed stock footage of Maynard to go with it
Or A perfect circle art cover
Was caught off guard by the subtle “How much does a banana cost, Michael? $10?” reference. But man did I enjoy that.
"$10 just about enough to buy a banana" Is that an Arrested development reference I see there?
0:09 The box around the HAI logo is a different color from the background and it is triggering me
Ah yes, something I think about every day, thank you half as interesting
disney: * writes this idea down *
disney has more lawyers than animators...
“First of all, goodbye everyone” LOL
Actors (agents) began negotiating for "points" (percentage of profits) when they were not especially rich, by California standards; it's a tl;dr complicated story, but it has to do with the old "studio system" the actors had to work under and what happened when it faded out. Might be a good video in there, while you're on the topic.
When you said accounting I almost clicked off the video but, the clever joke made me stay and watch the whole video
Friend: Ok don’t watch HAI anymore they use false facts and...
HAI: 4:54
lol nice one
HAI: It’s about accounting, goodbye everyone Me, an accountant: It’s free real estate
So where would the actor's earnings be decided from? Would that be done in a separate calculation?
Me: watches this during my lunch break at my accounting firm...
A L O H O M O R E M O N E Y
So basically dash link does what macs already do?
Can’t believe the shade thrown on Swiss army man 😔
"Cats" (2019) was made on a budget of $95 million, and when you add in the cost of marketing, it easily goes way over 100 million.
It made a pathetic *$ 27 million* at the US box office over an *eight week run.* Slice that up, Hollywood Accountants.
Meanwhile, Sonic the Hedgehog made twice as much in its *opening weekend.*
Hollywood accounting will sometimes include an expense 'Provision for bad future movies.' So if you agree to a royalty on Sonic, your royalty will be reduced, because eventually somebody else is going to make a movie like 'cats'. Even if you had nothing to do with it, too bad. Tough Luck.
How hard is it to say domestic or North American instead of US? The US is not everything.
$27 million is from North American grosses
"people like having money and don't like giving it to other people"
Eeeeeeh? The entire point of money is to exchange it with other people for goods and services. If you don't give your money away, it just becomes useless paper.
*In Creed’s voice*
Oh you're paying too much for bananas man. Who's your banana guy?
1:02 That’s the definition of gross profit. Net profit it what you’re left with after paying costs other than the cost of production, such as taxes and finance costs.
3:32 this is actually an income statement, not a balance sheet. Please delete the video.
Am I the only weird person that says "Hai!" immediately after every "slash H A I" on every video? It's kinda compulsive.
yea lol
yes
I laughed out loud over that Arrested Development banana reference!
I'm waiting for the day hai will use my stock footage