The Fallen of World War 2 - A Historian Reacts
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I really appreciate you differentiating between Nazis and Germans several times
Distinction is lost me, the Luftwaffe didn't give a shit about the political affiliation of my British family, whether or neutral / pacifist or other they still dropped bombs and killed a number of my family so as far as I am concern I don't care if the Luftwaffe crew were dedicated nazis or just along for the ride. They got repaid in kind. You reach for the sword, and start killing you cannot expect quarter when it starts going wrong for you. Don't start what you cannot finish.
@@shrade2.016 Thats very True i think because The Allies won WW2, their War Crimes often got Forgotten
(i dont Try to excuse German War Crimes with this comment)
Every German who was fighting in Wehrmacht was fighting for nazism. It was not a deffencive war, but offencive. They came to kill and take. So they were nazis. Germans were fighting against nazism.
Especially at the end of the war the war was far from offensive anymore. At that time most of the soldiers were either forced to fight or be killed or just wanted to defend their homeland and families. As already noticed the allies did commit crimes during the war too, like the Dresden Firestorm. (Also no excuse for Germany starting the war in the first place and the Nazis horrible crimes.)
@@philipleese1565 Yeah, sure of course. Such tricks does not work. It is like crying that bully was kicked back. Otherwise bully would not learn his lesson. Most soldiers were afraid of justice for their crimes. They should be thought about defending their families before they started war and before they atacked homeland of other people, before they destroyed other families. I have read memoirs of Wehrmacht soldiers and what they thought when they were invading USSR. "Those, who come to our home with sword - would fall from the sword" - Alexander Nevskiy
And here I am, sitting in my dark room, looking at a rolling screen of hundreds of red dots, feeling so very, very small.
I hear ya.
@Billy Oak Ummm... 18 million people of African descent died, innocently, at the hands of Caucasians, in North America, and 20 million Natives were slaughtered, both, all in the name of God, money, "capitalism", and land grabbing. We can't cast that stone too far.
@Billy Oak 100 million* at the most, though that number is probably even more inflated since a lot of """non-biased""" orgs that tally those numbers count both German and Soviet soldiers in WW2 as "victims of communism" which is...troubling to say the least.
Also, did you know that 20 million people die of easily preventable causes like starvation, unclean water and disease annually?
That means that 5 years of modern capitalism has more deaths than 100 years of authoritarian communism.
Just an interesting tidbit.
@@maltegodkas4931 Yeah, no. The 100+ million people are DIRECT victims of communism, not all deaths that happened in communist countries throughout history.
And of those 20 million people you mentioned, vast majority dies in countries that you can hardly call "modern capitalist" (often times not even one of these words)...
@@randomguy6822 I don't know how to reach you beneath all of that red scare propaganda but 100 million is the highest tally anyone has ever done, and that tally is suspicious since it includes the death of german and soviet soldiers as "victims of communism" in a war that a fascist far-right police state started.
Those countries are very much modern capitalist countries, they're the most important places on earth for capitalism.
Without the cheap labour and exploitation of their resources, rich countries wouldn't have cheap consumer goods, and that's why the large, western capitalist powers make sure the poorest countries stay poor.
Those 20 million that die every year are due to capitalism since capitalism is the standard economic system on earth right now and capitalism is also the system which governs those countries and keeps those conditions in order to exploit them for profits.
Jesus, I knew the Soviets took many losses, but that visualization is staggering.
Bad genarals and mediocre soldiers but a lot of soldiers. Stalin is very well known for just throwing away lives. Sure Hitler's the same but he always has a plan and had good generals. Stalin even said something like "quantity is its own quality" Basically saying that the main quality of the red army is their quantity. It's not really the red army's fault, though. They had good generals but thanks to stalin's paranoia a lot were executed or exiled. He also said something about how Napoleon, a military general started a coup against the government and he doesn't want that happening to him. History would be completely different if the nazis had as many soldiers as the red army did.
@@formerunsecretarygeneralba9536 That is not true. Have you heard about Ezhov? He was a head of NKVD and he is in charge of crimes, in which you are blaming Stalin. During great purge he and his agents made false charges against people. Stalin personaly amnestied lots of people, including Korolev - the father of Soviet space industry. Great purge was made to fight german spies and trotskist, but Ezhov used it to gain his own goals. Later there was investigation against Ezhov and he was punished for that with death penalty.
Second you are misinterprenting Stalin's words. Quality was a main goal of red army, but unfortunately Germany had better equipted mechanized army, while USSR in the begining was loosing in artilery and mechanization.
Third, such big loses are connected with some mistakes of field generals, unexpected atack to unmobilized army, quantity superiority almost twice in strategic directions. Nazis encircled millions of soviet soldiers and these soldiers were killed in concentrational camps. Germany had more than 4 mln fully mobilized army during barbarosa operation, while USSR had only 3 mln unmobilised forces in the east front during first months of war.
You don't know history so keep your "knowlage" to yourself. With your "opinion" you show disrespect to great people who were ready sacrifice their lifes for those, who they love, for their kids and their future. Couse if they would show their wickness, there would be way more loses and there would be no me. Learn history first, couse with such sayings you only dishonour yourself.
One of my great grandfathers was killed during Polands liberation campain. Other is missing. Third one and his brother were liberating Berlin and Dresden. He was field medic and he has awards for saving dozens of people under fire in several battles.
@@formerunsecretarygeneralba9536 sounds like bullshit. It would make sense for USSR to be the country with the most death count, since it was the only country who actually punched Hitler to the nuts and made him crawl back into his dog booth. Its not like war was ever taken on US land at all or on UK land as much as it was taken to the USSR, civillians were raped, slaughtered, their towns burnt to the ground. Trying to downplay USSR's part in the Hitler's defeat is a crime. It is true that red army wasnt as well supplied as german soldiers were, because the country was still rebuilding after the revolution and it was big achievement for USSR to gain such production capacities in such a short time. Im not trying to negate the input of the western allies into the victory over nazism, but everyone should always remember who put the flag on the reichstag in 1945 because of how many lives were lost before this was achieved
@@timwoods8297 I don't like my opinions getting in the way of historical facts but sure you do you, bud. I can't stop you from believing what you want but it's not gonna change facts either.
@@Imaxxd22 it seems like you're getting you opinion in the way of historical facts. Respect to your great grandfather but the last paragraph is completely irrelevant to what we're talking about. The numbers themselves explain how superior (in terms of quality) the german army was to the red army. Not take your opinions as facts but you're always allowed to have one.
Mathematics can be astonishing.
If we had a minute of silence for each one who died during WW2 and had them start right after the war ended...
The world would still have been quiet with more than 50 years yet to come.
Nothing's to be forgotten. No one's to be forgotten.
If you flatten out the deaths across the 6 years of war, 2 people died every second.
Ah, a mathematician should check my math. That was over 1 year, not 6. So one person every 3 seconds, or about 33,000 per day, or almost a million per month.
which also means, that even giving each 1 single seccond we would be silent a whole year
The creator corrected himself in the comments about the nazi/german algamation
Good to know
@@VloggingThroughHistory i think one of the reason why "Nazi soldiers" is often used in war documentaries and articles is also because the German Army during WW2 wasn't entirely German, especially towards the end of the war and unfortunately a lot of those non Germans who died were still included into the German death count so its not entirely accurate to call them all "German Soldiers" a more accurate way would be to call them soldiers fighting for Nazi Germany (a lot against there will) but when making a documentary or something along those lines that is a lot to say every time you want to reference it so it gets shortened and unfortunately Nazi Soldiers is the easiest and most understandable way for the viewer to understand
@@comeatmebro3229 in that case I'd say using Axis would be more appropriate...similar to referring to the Allies when combining forces from various nations.
Yep
@@VloggingThroughHistory i would also agree however when talking about statistics like armed force casualties generally they are categorized by country like Italian soldiers and German Solders aren't put into the same statistic yet conscripted soldiers from annexed countries like Czechoslovakia and yugoslavia who were conscripted into the actual German army do tend to get included into the German army death count, a bit like the United Kingdoms death counts also sometimes contain British and former British colonies like South Africa, Australia and New Zealand like in this video for instance there is no mention of any deaths from Australia and New Zealand because there numbers are included into the United Kingdom.
I'm Russian and I just want to say thank you for remembering how many people we lost at this war.
You do remember how many people the war took but you don't remember how many innocent lives had been taken behalf of the bloodthirsty and perfidious recidivists Lenin and Stalin?
There would be 250 million ethnic russian today
@@anastastsankov5479 Lenin and Stalin are not a whole country.
@@Ruslan-iy7dw Did you even read my comment?
@@anastastsankov5479 that wasn’t reproach in your direction, I agree with you. That was just a remind, for all. Don’t judge by 2 people.
In Russia, the effects of WWII can still be seen in the population growth today. There are two big gaps in the graphics that depict the amount of people in every generation when you look at them. These gaps are the generations of the children and grandchildren of those killed in WWII would have been born at that time, had their (grand)parents lived.
There's also a dip in Russian gender demographics that can be traced back to the stresses of the cold war leading to the stillbirths or abortions of many male infants.
@@Thalanox At the time, there was NO way to know if it was a male or female fetus.
@@carlajenkins1990 Yes, and?
The same is true for the period of WW1 and the following civil war. The civil war was even more deadly for Russia/former russian empire lands then WW1 and that is saying something. From 1914 to 1945 Russia had a human death rate that is utterly redicilous for most people to comprehent.
@@noobster4779 I've heard that most of Russian history can be summarized as "...and then it got worse".
As an ethic Russian living in the US who has a Victory Banner hanging in my apartment that often draws ire from my friends, that visualization is why. I don’t have the banner to commemorate communism or any other political ideology, I have it to remember those who died defeating the Third Reich in the Great Patriotic War. Nothing more needs to be said.
Absolutely
As your fellow American it makes me sad that many other Americans do think that way. We should care about each other as people, not as ideologies. I do think things are slowly changing and more Americans are beginning to appreciate the massive number of Soviets (mostly Russians) who died fighting Nazi Germany.
And yet, you only get a part of the story.
As a Russian living in Russia, I thank you. Keep the memory of the fallen heroes of that war and do not listen to your friends brainwashed by Western propaganda
@@Anonymous-qj3sf greetings from abroad!
Seeing the Soviet numbers going up and up....really send chills
Indeed... WW2 was the darkest time in humanity, where our absolute worse was shown. A massacre tells very little how many died in those six years of fighting.
@@pepper-0ni-t1m ww1 and ww2 were truly terrifying wars to fight in, fighintg in trenches like in ww1 would be hell, fighting in battles like Stalingrad and d day would also be hell
On the global scale, yes, but not in more local context. The video includes examples like ~40M deaths attributed to Mao that are concentrated in China and largely in the span of just a few years...
@@GediMini That's.... kinda what I meant. I used humanity in a general sense, not a plural sense.
Granted, there are several things that showcase cruelty on par or, dare I say, exceed that of WW2 but, in the general aspect, the second world war was humanities darkest moment in the time it's been on Earth.
@@razr-x9666 i think ww1 is far worst, waiting in trench with the corps+artilery bombardment and animal fighting when run out of ammo.
Ww2 take more life bcos they r mobilize, and kill somebody on the way
German history/philosophy teacher here, I appreciate ur insights and the way you comment. My great-grandfather was one of the very few german soldiers who died in the early western campain in Belgium. He wrote many letters to the my great-grandmother in a style of handwriting that was common back then but almost nobody can read anymore. We got those letters translated a couple years ago by an expert from swizzerland. Those documents give a really interesting insight starting with "the belief in Hitler and being part of something special" to war experiences. The last letter to my great-grandmother is not from her husband but his closest comrade after he had fallen. Sometimes I use them in my history lessons.
If it’s not too personal and if you’re okay with it, could you scan them along with the translations and post them online. It’s very fascinating as I also have some from my great grandparents, one of my favorites and oldest are from my great great grandfather from early 1900s
Hey, I think you might be apropriate person to ask this about. The creator of this reaction video made a point of distinguishing Nazis and German soldiers. Is this really correct in the end of the day? The comparison made on the video was roughly, It wouldn't be correct to say democrats won the ww2 for US. I disagree with that on the basis that Wehrmacht was deeply Nazi/Fascistic throughout the high leadership and officer core even before Nazis got properly into power and rebuilding the military had started. It was deeply corrupt institution.
@@TealJosh it is correct. most germans fought for their country not the ideology, especially in the later years. even if you werent a nazi you didnt want soviets to take over. similar how today most of the US troops in iraq for example arent fueled by imperialism like the government is.
@@hullmees666 well that is not correct. while the number of supporters varied, after fall of paris as much as 9/10 germans supported the ruling part (before the war is was slightly above 33%). Back then no1 even heard the term "nazi" those were all germans, my great grandfather when i asked him about nazis he had no idea who they were so i had to explain to him and he was like "och, germans?". Thats from a person whos been to concentration camp and had his parents and siblings murdered.
The whole distinction between germans and nazis started to surface very recently to help people distance nowadays germas from their grandfathers
@@Thalaranthey nah. Maybe where you are from all were called nazis. Not from where i am. Also supporting a seemingly successful leader and sharing his ideology are not the same thing.
The last bit, I think, is the most important part. There's good reason to think that WWII kind of shocked the developed world into realizing we can't keep doing this to ourselves. However, as WWII fades from living memory we run the risk of forgetting that lesson that has led to the era of unprecedented "peace" that we currently live in.
EDIT: God, I hate being right.
i think its more nukes scared the major powers into peace, however as anti-missile technologies improve they might loose this fear
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Ideas have consequences, they did in 1939 and they will in 2039.
ww3 nuclear and bacterial war deaths: 7.9 billions.
A new era is created,all historycal religions,cultures,simbols,corruptions,sects,politics,all gone. A new world order made by privileged people has begun created on the blood of humans for the elects ones destinated to be gods.
GAIA =)
There were "world wars" before the 20th century. It was 99 years between the end of the Napoleonic wars and the start of WWI. The "Long Peace" is nothing special.
My Grandpa was a German soldier on the Eastern front, basically from day one until the last day. He was the only one of his friends to return.
Initially, he was gunner on a sidecar of a motorcycle. While on the offensive, they’d ride into enemy towns on their own, drive around town square and spray some buildings with a few bursts from the machine gun. If nobody shot back, the town was deemed safe and the army would march through. If fire was returned, depending on how much fire the army would either storm the house from which the return fire came and kill everyone in there or the artillery would just level the entire place. He actually was shot in the head once, but survived, it only scraped him.
He had street smarts. He once told me, that in every situation, he always looked for a way out in case of nasty surprises.
For example, he was once instructed to man a listening post, basically a hole in the ground near Soviet lines. He didn’t like the look of it and hid in a bush near the hole. So when the Russians came and checked the holes, he was safely watching.
While he survived, he was scarred for life. Every Christmas when we sang Christmas songs he cried, as it reminded him of a terrible Christmas he had in Russia. That day, every German soldier received a whole goose from the home front as a special treat. They were all starving so every one of them ate their entire goose. Of course they all fell sick. That night the Russians launched a major attack, and my Grandpa and his comrades were shitting their pants while mowing down the Russians. He said that it was terrible, the Russians had no chance, they were charging the German machine guns and were easily mowed down, yet they kept on coming. He wished that they‘d stop as they’d surely all die. But they kept coming. At some point that night, he said they started to hear strange screams from the Russian soldiers they were killing. When they examined the battlefield the next day, he saw that eventually the Russians sent women, they were the origins of those strange screams. He was devastated by how many good Russians died that night in a completely pointless encounter.
He also said that the more ideologically driven the German soldiers were, the quicker they died. Whenever a proper Nazi joint their ranks, he gave him two weeks. That’s how long they’d last on average. They were too determined to play the brave hero, doing pointless stupid shit.
At the end he was relatively high in rank for a regular soldier by virtue of surviving for so long. He was actually in Dresden during the famous fire bombing raid. There he was ordered to organise the “Volkssturm“, the last ditch defensive force comprised of kids and old people. When he saw them, he told them all to go home and then went underground, there he survived the bombing. He said the railroad tracks were glowing red hot from all the heat of the bombs, even underground.
He then tried to make his way home through the Czech republic. There two partisans found him. First they told him to hand over his medals, which he did, then they told him to strip. He knew they’d kill him, but he had a gun hidden on himself all the time, so he killed them first and took off. That’s how he lost all his medals.
He eventually made it to American lines and surrendered there. While on the way to a POW camp, the truck he was on went through his home town by chance. So he jumped off and ran home. The Americans apparently had bigger fish to fry and didn’t try to catch or shoot him.
Unfortunately, I only know a fraction of his stories. His experience would have made for a great anti-war movie. I know that it was horrific for him and that he saw a lot of messed up shit. He really was a broken man for the rest of his life. He saw all his friends die and he himself had to kill many times. Still, he was one of the few lucky ones, particularly since he got into trouble several times, like when he refused to execute a Russian girl which apparently shot at them from her home, or when he was careless enough to doubt that Germany would win the war in front of the wrong people. He worked on his farm for the rest of his life, never spoke much, but every Christmas, he had to talk about his experiences.
Thank you for sharing this..it puts a very personal and individual perspective into all of this data..each of these victims of the war, also, had their own history and identity.
@@georgewbush762 I can only tell you what he told me. He was there and this night in particularly scarred him so much that he had to cry every Christmas. Maybe he embellished it in his mind over time, but I find that unlikely. Elements like the Soviets sending women isn’t anything one makes up subconsciously and it certainly speaks to the fact that lots of soldiers were sent to die pointlessly, why else would you eventually start to send women, particularly back then?
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And of course you believed all of his stories without any reliable source to back it up...
Maybe you shouldn't.
There's countless soldiers of that time making up their own versions of what happened.
Most of the men from my family have never returned back home. There is a possibility that some of them have been killed either by your grandfather or his dead friends. I’m not surprised that your grandpa was running to us camp, because he probably knew what Soviets would do to him for the crimes he had committed on our land.
"I don't know what weapon would be used in WWIII. But in world war 4 we will use stones"- A. Einstein
@TopFlight Nukes
IMO, this is the reason peace has been trending recently. Everyone realizes what will happen during a great powers conflict now, and nobody is willing to risk it, because regardless of what side you fight, it will spell annihilation for everyone. Now that nearly every major country has the bomb, we all have to play nice with the nuclear gun to our heads.
@TopFlight WW3 will be so destructive and catastrophic that any subsequent war will be devoid of the technology that once was, due to the sheer annihilation of the planet's surface.
@@DingleFlop if ww3 is fought, I doubt nukes will be used since most nations know that their chances of winning is impossible if the country or resources they want to conquer or have no longer exists, ww3 will only use nukes imo when really needed.
@@ratatosk001 what would be the point of the war then? Just killing everyone?
I studied history at a level here in the uk and we were NEVER told about what happened in Yugoslavia so that’s came as a big shock to me
What do you think about 1999?
Well. Mostly Serbs. Croatian facists were helping the German
Yugoslavia, well Serbians for the most part but not excluding other nations, gave Germany the finger from the occupation onward, tied up 19 or more of their divisions and finally liberated itself in the end.
Lmao uk history is so bullshit and biased in favour of themselves. Nothing about colonies, japan or smything interesting
Deaths in Yugoslavia were covered at GCSE level. You weren't paying attention.
I am from the former Yugoslavia and very happy that someone is finally talking about our losses. Half a million still seems too little to me - the partisan struggle may have resulted in up to a million deaths. But we tied up an enormous number of German soldiers who were urgently needed in Russia. The Second World War was not only won in Normandy. Thank you for this good video.
PS: subscribed
It wasn't won in Normandy at all. Several battles in the Eastern Front took more lives than the entire Western Front throughout the whole war.
nobody can win a war. Everyone lose people.
@@lorrdy7640 except the neutral nations since they lose nothing
Yugoslavia suffered severe human and material losses. This is a false interpretation of the numbers concerning the Second W.W. A distorted picture of history. Giving absolute numbers changes the true dimensions of the tragedy. I come from the country. who suffered the most during the Second W.W. During World War II, Poland suffered the greatest biological losses (for every 1,000 inhabitants, it lost 220 people). For comparison: USA - 2.9, Belgium - 7, Great Britain - 8, France - 15, Netherlands - 22, USSR - 116. It estimated the total personal losses at 6.028 million people, including 3.2 million Polish citizens of Jewish origin. The death losses of the Slavic Polish population under the German occupation amounted to approximately 2,770,000 people. This group does not include the victims of Soviet crimes in the territories incorporated into the USSR after 1939, and it does not include the victims of the UPA crimes in Volhynia. The post-war census showed 24 million, and the census covered 2 million Germans and about 1-1.5 million Poles living in Germany before World War II. Before the war, Poland was inhabited by 35 million citizens. Of which 13 million in the lands annexed by the Soviet Union, 22 million in the areas occupied by Germany. Poland suffered the greatest material losses during World War II. Material losses per capita, which amounted to $ 626 compared to the second Yugoslavia with $ 601. According to materials presented at the International Reparation Conference in Paris in 1946, material losses in Poland amounted to $ 16.9 billion, respectively, in Yugoslavia - $ 9.1 billion. (Losses are given in 1946 value of money.) 2/5 of Poland's cultural assets were completely destroyed and stolen. Under pressure from the great powers, Poland also had to cede 48% of its territory to the Soviet Union, losing about 178,000 km² in the east. Most of the losses resulted from the German occupation, the USSR was responsible for the other part of the losses. One sentence at the end. Stalin killed many more USSR citizens in 1923-39 than they died during the Second World War
@@yakeosicki8965 very good point. You are right.
9:22 Very important comment!
My grandfather was a hardcore christian and forced to go to Stalingrad as a scout. He told me a story, where he was hiding at night in a bush to spy on the enemy when a russian soldier came straight to him and took a piss just 2m away. He laid there, his gun aimed at the russian soldier and he prayed to god to not have to shoot him. It was against his beliefs and he did not want to harm anybody.
Luckily the soldier didn't noticed him and went away soon.
My grandfather got to leave the eastern front soon later, right before the 6th took Stalingrad. He went on to smuggle his wife and daugher out of Germany to Ghana and became a missionary doctor there.
This is a very well done video but I also cringe at that comment as well, my grandfather also fought in Stalingrad, he also made it out before the disaster there. He was not a nazi by any means. My father was born in February 45 near Hamburg, and my grandfather survived the war. They immigrated to America in the 1950s.
I feel like the war crimes of the Japanese Empire were mostly forgotten because it was somewhat overshadowed by the nuclear bombings, almost like they were given a free pass for their atrocities.
I would rather think that the war crimes of Japan were never really a big deal in the West since it mostly concerned other Asians (except for British and American prisoners but this is not the same scale).
I know for a fact that they did not forget at all in Asia.
The us didn't really care about japan as tension with the ussr were heating up. Which is why they didn't care to dethrown the emperor. They wanted an ally against communism and the nationalistic japan was very against communism.
nah I think its mainly bc WW2 was so massive in scale and unless you take a course specifically covering it you only have a very short time to cover it in school. As a result the focus is honed in on "heres why the war started" and "how we beat the germans bc they were much more locked in and difficult to overcome than the japanese due to the stranglehold they had over all of europe by the time we entered the war". The pacific theatre was basically just really shitty island jumping that resulted in a lot of deaths but was mainly just a "rinse and repeat" over and over and over again as we had to retake like a thousand islands.
Everyone is wrong. War is just a stupid thing
@@stinkbug4321
When I said "not the same scale" I was talking about westerners pow.
The West has not really been impacted by Japanese war crimes, this is what I was trying to say.
And that’s why, I believe, westerners don’t really know about it (+Japan is an ally of the US).
The pic of the mother holding the child.
As a kid and adult i said wow that sad.
As a dad it was a weeping experance.
Take this away, kid. The ones who FIGHT monster, are not that woman or her child.
Another dad, here. I looked at that picture too long and cried, too.
Fact about that photo: The murderer isn't pointing the gun at the woman and child, but at the people to the right. It only appears like a point-blank shot because of the angle. If the murderer shot at such close range, he would have had to wash the backsplash from his uniform.
@@nateotto3960 thats interesting.
It actually changes the dynamic a bit.
That picture is a Soviet photoshop/alteration.
@@-HughJass- Yeah sure. There were millions of death, prople being butchered, gazed or outright executed in mass graves, but the Soviet union had to use photoshop (years before modern computers) to create a picture of an execution. Makes sense.
I admit, i cried a little bit when I saw that photo of the mother holding child who is about to be executed. Many people forget how devastating World War 2 was.
Cruel shit is still happening
The executions were so frequent and brutal, that they had to do rotations, cause the psychological strain on the German soldiers were too much.
And the stories coming from how the USSR soldiers behaved, when they took over the areas, the German had taken, are absolutely horrible
@@GoalOrientedLifting The Soviet groups were far worse, especially the Mongolian units
@@jaklm4221 Where?
It's hard to remember because the numbers are quite literally mind boggling. The event of "World War II" was an insanely massive and complex event that is just so hard to wrap it all up in your mind.
That one is six Poles died in the Second World War, unbelievable. I'm so glad that these figures are shown like this, it makes the truth transparent.
Poland has been threw hell and back multiple times over, it's super sad when you hear about some of the stories of what the people had to go threw 😪
At least they've cleared judaism from poland, non-jewish people in poland especially in states like danzig weren't being treated that bad as far as I know
The russians helped kill those Poles, let's not forget that.
@@headhunter1945 yes they did!
@@headhunter1945 Yeah but the vast majority were killed by the Germans.
Video: *mentions Czechoslovakia*
Me: Don't do it. Don't you do it man.
Me: PILOTS OF CZECHOSLOVAKIA JOIN THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Dammit Sabaton.
Could you explain? I don't get it xd
Search far frome fane
GUARDING THE SKIES OF THE ISLE!
And pilots of poland
Man the pilots of both chechoklovakia and poland ware amazing. I personnally think czhechkoslovalkia had better individiuals but still poles had the best squadron overall
When the sowjet level rises and you hear only the noise of the wind und know every line are 20.000 killed soldiers.....OMG
I can't even begin to comprehend that many people dying.
The Battle of Kursk was unbelievable. There were like 3-4 MILLION on that battlefield. The Soviets halted the Nazis, but with some of the heaviest fighting and casualties imaginable. Even after Stalingrad, it was one of the largest attempted counterattacks in history.
@@spicysnowman8886 I cracked on imagining the second family slaughtered, you'd go mad before comprehending each possible situation with so many left unknown
Always makes me shed a tear, the soviets freed the northern part of my country their sacrifice will not be forgotten.
Imagine clearing up 1.5 million dead bodies up in Stalingrad
You must be getting paid good
@@electronium6378 They got German prisoners to do it. Then made them rebuild the city until they died.
@@Davey-Boyd good
A lot of the bodies are still being discovered
That’s just the military deaths. If you add civilian deaths it’s more like 2 million total
As a Pole, the civilians death count always gets to me. So much Polish blood was spilled during WW2. Including my Great-Granfather who died in the camps when he got captured by the Germans. My Grandfather grew up without a father. He still holds his death certificate.
An interesting fact I heard. There was a building in Stalingrad which was of significant strategic importance that the Germans and Soviets were fighting over. The Germans lost more soldiers fighting for that single building than they lost in their entire conquest of France.
How interesting
I guess you mean Pavlov's House (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlov%27s_House). The fight for this building was a part of Stalingrad battle
Yes. Its true
The conquest of Paris. They did lose more with the cinquest of France, but Stalingrad as a whole made France look like a house of cards in comparison.
My Great Granpa was captured at stalingrad. Crazy he was one of the 6000 that returned.
Wow. Glad for your family that he did.
My friend's grandfather stayed there. He defended his home.
When did he return? It was usually sometime in 1950s...
@@Wecker42 i don't understand: was he german soldier and died in Stalingrad?
@@---gk9ve maybe his friend's grandfather was a russian, but his family move during the revolution and when his friend's grandfather return from the camp he just live in russia (atleast that's my theory)
Was hoping you'd react to this at some point and I'm glad you did!
Yeah this is something everyone should watch, everyone
@@morrettigames5153 I agree
I know probably too much about ww2. And I don’t see why anyone should watch this. Personally I think every person should tour aushwitz. And if unable to go there then best to just watch ww2 in color show here on RUclips.
Stalin: "The British gave time, the Americans gave money, the Soviets gave blood."
fuark all three, they cause all the problems
@@wierzba1992 You're wrong but nice try.
@@empress_alex How am I wrong? Whos consttantly invading other countries? All of above :D
@@wierzba1992 That's an overstatement and even then it is primarily the US invading countries and not without reason either. No matter how bad the reasons may seem, they are still reasons.
To be fair the soviets probably wouldn’t have so many dead if they didn’t purge all of their officers and generals
Although I am not German, I would like to thank you for clarifying the difference between Nazis and the soldiers, it is always bothering me when someone is just using Nazi for everyone from Germany at that time, and also demonizing Axis soldiers whom, (especially those who died on the fronts, although under a faulty system ) fought mainly for their homes and families, not necessarily the system and ideology itself.
I am usually careful to separate the actions of governments from the people who live in the country. As an American I certainly don't want people thinking I support all the past and present actions of my country, let alone a country with more blood on its hands. I think the danger is when we won't forgive individuals for the sins of the group, each should be judged on their own actions and not the actions of the whole.
@@lexpox329 Well written !
you are hungarian
@@lexpox329 op op a
The original video maker corrected himself in the comments.
I'm really glad you made a point to talk about the picture of the execution. It humanizes the whole thing. Like with the Stalin quote about a million deaths being a statistic, when people hear 6 million dead they don't comprehend the amount of death and bloodshed behind the number. The sadness and suffering. The families torn apart. Everyone should see that photo, and understand that something like this should never happen again.
As a German this is hitting something pretty hard
I don't even know how to say it
Well. I do know what to say. Don't vote for the fucking AfD, regardless of how much you dislike Merkel ;)
@@littlerave86 do not cry leftist
@@vladrubanov7394 the AFD are neo nazis. you dont need to be left wing to hate them.
@@vladrubanov7394 Lmao imagine being such a fuckin Nazi you think Angela Merkel is a leftist my god
I feel for you. We've all done wrong things. When a country has the best army it's not long before it invades other countries and commits war crimes. Rome did it. Ottomans, the Mongols, the Brits.
There is a cruel streak in every nationality it seems.
Looks like the long peace is coming to an end. I wish it could've lasted longer.
There was never peace. Unless you mean European peace, which was just transported to the third world. Lol
@@chelseacomps829 Yeah, I was just talking about the major European powers.
Yeah… I enjoyed that no major European wars, tho I have to admit (for the joke’s sake) that it is rather surprising that the people fighting somehow isn’t France Vs Britain or Denmark VS Sweden.
finally broken that age old ritual, huh?
well its a war between two former soviet states
thank God when at least someone mentioned Yugoslavia
If it makes you feel any better, at least in Polish schools we learn of Yugoslavian resistance and how they were the only ones to liberate themselves by the end of the war. Probably not a thing in the "West", tho.
@@randomguy6822 Cannot have a Slavic nation be better than Great USA.
@@randomguy6822 i was born in yugoslavia, and i moved to vienna, u dont learn in the schools what was going on in yugoslavia, how the soliders killed children for dead nazis.... its fucked up how noone wants to remember that people who didnt get help from USA and UK to get free of the war.... the people had to do it them self... and i have the feeling that the number is not right, it seams to small
@@anadonner4685 Not just for dead Nazis - in occupied Poland, the punishment for helping Jews was death sentence for whole families, including children. I have to say it was a bit of a shock to me when I learned that in occupied France the punishment for the same "crime" was just a fine.
With such vastly differing experiences, how are western societies supposed to really understand the war without proper education? Well, they kinda don't.
@@randomguy6822 oh i know, i was born in serbia, i lived there and i went there to school... i know the differences... its just crazy how differend the history is
My grandpa was German Werhmacht and the first chance he has during the war he deserted and took a boat to the US and lived happily till he passed away in 2004 due to cancer. He never wanted to fight but didn’t have a choice
It's important to understand situations like this. He has talked about what Germany looked like and how it was there post WW1 and most just wanted help/out of a very bad situation that unfortunately got alot worse.
And because of that, here you are :)
What a coward
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@@kayvan671 he should have fought till the end. He betrayed his country
I have seen some of these videos many times from watching other reaction channels but yours is one I find most enjoyable. Seeing the video and then getting your added knowledge on the subjects just adds a whole new level to them.
Thank you for making these videos as entertaining and educational as you do. I am 48 years old and I am still learning something new about the subjects I did not know with each of these videos.
Appreciate that, James! We are all here to learn.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Exactly, I made a promise to myself that when my school days were over I would continue to learn. I set a personal goal of learning at least one new thing every day and maybe even learn a new talent or skill regularly and have stuck to that since.
@@VloggingThroughHistory btw in this video stated, that SU suffered 8,7m losses. But in Russia we have special site called "memorial" and I believe it have 16,6m unique records of soldiers who died in a Great patriotic war. number might go up to 19,5m , since more than 20m death notifications have been send
And this is only the military, and how many victims among the civilian population!? One of my grandfather (grandmother's brother) is not even in the lists of those who fought, and he met the war in the Brest fortress in 1941, having served in the army for 1 year. Nothing more is known about him((
The Soviet Union suffered more casualties during the siege of Leningrad than the US suffered throughout the entire war.
And then Americans will say that "it was good that fascists killed so many communists"
I was honestly shocked
@@SovietUnion_ Actually it's more like "it's good Communists killed so many Communists" since the Soviet Union is NOTORIOUS for Logistics failures. The Soviets would have piles of Ammo and rifles, but then FORGOT to plan in advance to MOVE those supplies. Not to mention Soviet Generals work against each other in a Competition, while in the West Generals work with each other. So in... some Ironic way, the Western Allies work as a Collective, while the Soviets work for the Individual high ranking officer... who hate each other. Communists REALLY do not.. like other communists.. at all.
@@someblackguy7371 90% of the dead Nazis were killed by Soviet soldiers, and only 10% by all Western Allies combined. There wasn't even any fighting on the western front until 1944 lol
если бы это было правдой, то что вы говорите, то советская армия не смогла гнать нацистов до самого Берлина и поставить на рейхстаге знамя победы, красное знамя
@@Anonymous-qj3sf There was on the Southern front
WW2 was won in the Eastern front, Salute to the Red Army Hero's Uraaa.
Don't you ever salute those murderers....
@@sebastiankrajewski2029stfu don't tell me what to do. You're alive because of them
@@sebastiankrajewski2029 Nazi sympathizer I see...
The war in Europe was won in the East, not ww2
The ending hits so much harder now than the first time I watched your reaction. I am crying over that the long/new peace are no longer
Wdym no longer? The points he made still stand. Ukraine is a much smaller country than Russia, and it’s not a major war, if that is what you are referring to. And the antagonism with china and North Korea against the USA will most likely not end up in war.
Why everyone says Russia, it was Soviet Union (15 countries), it feels likes only Russia was fighting, forgetting other 14 countries. I don't want to say bad about Russia, they lost most compare to others, but still it's so sad that the impact of other 14 countries counted as Russian. Please like this comment to see more people. Thanks in advance!!!
if you mean republics, i agree with you bro. I member one of those republics, who gave amount people to front and 7-13 old kids working in factories. It's realy hurtful sometimes.
I guess the long peace is over...
6:00 You mentioned Gen. Buckner. Glad to see that someone knows him, he's part of my family tree... yes, I'm a Buckner.
That's really cool
The highest ranking officer to be killed in Okinawa?
yoo thats sick myguy.
If you read this comment, i beg you for one minute of silence, and rememberance to the fallen of our past wars. Thank you.
And that’s why us Europeans don’t like it when Americans claim they win the war. We won’t ignore the help and effort but without those millions of soviets who knows what would of happened
i am not american but they won the war:
those soviet people were lost inefficently, and more than 70% of soviet ammunition was made with lendlease materials (and thats before we account for trucks, tanks and planes both made by the yanks, or made out of materials from the yanks) the soviets wouldn't have been able to survive without the lendlease.
without the soviets what you would of had is the ameircans bombng the germans from britian for a few years, while blockadeing them and eventually nukeing them (assuming german resistance don't gain enough to overthrough the nazis before that, based on ww1 and the lack of consumer goods/etc the germans had in ww2 you woud have likely seen the germans people turn on the nazis before the nukes were used) not saying it would have been easier but the allies still would have won without the soviets, but the allies would not have won without america.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 that is really a biased view and purely hypothetical, firstly we know the Germans were working on Nuclear weaponry and other major advancements and we also know that the failure of operation Barbarossa is what essentially caused the downfall of the third reich as the main goal was to gain vital resources to help the war effort, as the Germans were unable to get those resources they wouldn’t have been able to prolong the conflict past around 5 years without help. The American army itself did not make much of an impact in the conflict instead the materials and supplies the Americans provided made the biggest impact but that’s more of a debate. Yes the Russian soldiers were unequipped, yes Stalin sent tens of thousands of men to die but without them the war would not have ended when it did, to say the Germans would have turned on the nazis is seriously flawed most of the German people supported or at least put up with the nazi leadership the only real resistance the nazis felt was from occupied countries such as the French resistance Germans itself was safe more or less. Germany lost due to many reasons but the Yanks is not a major one, some include the extremely poor leadership, the over stretching of the military, not enough resources/ supplies and the lack of allies. It’s very much a debated topic but after the invasion of the USSR from Germany almost every historian believes Germany could not have won with or without the USA and a lot believe Germany could never have won as we know Hitler did not want war in 1949 and generally believed the allies would allow him to occupy Poland we can see evidence of this from the fact most of the new and improved Germany military wasn’t ready until 1941 and even then the German scientists were still working on new creations almost until the very end. The war effort would have been lost if the Germans were able to conquer Britain for sure but we can also see that even the German generals were surprised at how easy the Blitzkrieg strategy worked, Germany essentially stormed through Europe with luck mostly and as soon as Europe started fighting back the won.
@@guyshepshep8903 you seem to have some bias yourself.
@@BB-ce5ev in what way
@@guyshepshep8903 the germans were working on nukes but they never really devoted muthc resources to it, Hitler considered it to be 'Jewish science', as a result progress was extremely slow and eventually canceled by Albert speer as a waste of time (in June 1942) as they would not get the bomb until 1947 and only then if they devoted all production towards it. The germans were not getting the bomb before the allies regardless of allied actions to stall them. (just for comparison the germans had no more than 70 people working on their project, while the allies had 120 000) and the yanks spent 1000 times more on their nuclear program (2billion vs 2 million) it'd nieve to think the Germans would have got the bomb, the allies would have nuked them long before they could get the bomb.
and its not a stretch that the germans would have turned on the Nazis. The germans turned on the kaiser, and that was with significantly less pressure than what the allies were putting in the germans (which is less than what they would have put on them, ie nukes), combine that with a fairly determined counter nazi movement (which tried to kill hitler like 50 times irl) and given enough time the germans would 100% turned on the Nazis.
And no the war was not lost at barbarossa. The germans still had the men and machinery for more offenses after barbarossa and the Soviets were extremely low on resources, go look at the battles immediately after barbarossa and you'll see it dominated by Soviets using us tanks as late as stalingrad. Then Look at the logistics for the whole war, us trucks and us trains. I am sorry but the Soviets could not have won without lend lease and the Americans. The war was bleeding them dry in both men and materials. Did you not see the 70% of their ammunition was materials from America? The Soviets were already low on ammunition with this (you can read both soviet and German accounts talking about their lack of ammunition) this minor inconvience would become crippling if lend lease wasn't there, and that's assuming they could even survive without us tanks and trucks in 1942.
I used to be a denier of America's importance too. But then I looked at the actual numbers and where they and when they were used.
Well I guess the long peace is over now
I have watched this video multiple times, as well as multiple reactions. The reality of the deaths still hits incredibly hard.
The real number of deaths is much more than shown in this video! According to the latest data, more than 27 million people died in the Soviet Union and volunteers still find the remains of people killed by the Nazis on our land! In every family of the former Soviet Union there are victims of this war, and it is the blood of our grandparents that is paid for freedom and peace on earth, but this ungrateful Europe has simply forgotten!
@@ЛюдмилаК-и4и Did you just say, that the ussr fought for freedom? Dude they had the gulags that says everything
@doctor_alfa Do you know what the Gulag is and what the concentration camps created by the fascists are? Before comparing the liberation of Europe from fascism by the Russians and the correctional camps that existed in the USSR from 1930 to 1960, take the trouble to study history at least a little, and preferably from historical documents, and not from the false propaganda that you are fed in the West! Unlike you, my family has learned both what the Gulag is and what war is in full! Of the 4 grandfathers, only 2 returned from the war, while my mother's father was arrested for being a prisoner of the fascists ( he escaped from captivity and fought with the partisans), he was acquitted after half a year and returned his military awards! It was a very difficult time: the country was destroyed by the war, there was no money, people were starving, and on top of everything else, many saboteurs and traitors to the Motherland (who fought on the side of the enemy) were still at large.... You know, there is no point in explaining all this to you, if you really wanted to know the true story, you would study it not only from your propaganda sources! And I will add, I do not justify the GULAG, but I do not understand how you can compare the sacrifice of our people in the fight against fascism and the correctional camps, in which the majority were criminals under the articles for plundering property, hooliganism and banditry?!(((
@@doctor_alfa I saw a Russian sources claiming that 20 milion Soviet people went through Gulag, but mortality rate was relatively low- 10%.
In gulags there was no focus on exploiting people to death on purpose. If gulags were similar (and I believe they were) to post war POWs camps, you got a food depending on if you manage to fulfill your daily task. If you fulfilled 80% pf it, you only got 80% of a meal. But when were Germans too thin ("dystrophy"), they could rest for some time and got their ratios. But sometimes it was too late, or diseases stroke...
About french losses : he counted inland (metropolitan france) and colonies separatly, the total military french death count is kind of foggy, i have seen 500 000 to 900 000. North and center afrikan bataillons (french and natives soldiers) fought until 1944
ruclips.net/video/7PwDCoswn_A/видео.html
I was gonna say... bc the french number he reported was hella small especially given they were effectively conquered yet kept fighting with the allies till the end of the war.
@@onebuffalo5402 same goes for the British tbh, British empire deaths were around 1 million
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I think the french were spared from a lot of german wrath, they were considered better humans than the slavs and jews and they didn't get killed as much, because britain was watching
@@niepowaznyczlowiekAnd also because of the open colaborationism of the Vichy government. It wasn't until 1943 with the invasion of North Africa that the French resistance truly arose to the peak of it's activity.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
@Christian Lopez if you’d have paid attention you’d have noticed I put it in quotation marks, almost like it’s a quote
@Christian Lopez you defo weren’t loved as a child
ww4 wont be fought, because no man woman or child will be alive...
@TopFlight look at the guys comment, it was posted after mine...
I always loved that quote from Einstein. Einstein broke that nucleus which is insane.
Shit the long peace ended
Germany here: When this video came out I mentioned the issue as well.
I am really happy that there's a response about that problematic term. Now, there's no need for rationalizing anything about what my fellow ancestors did.... it is clear as glass. The main personal part for me had been that almost my entire German family was erased during this war, too.
And yes... I do know about the USSR... and people of jewish faith. That many families had actually been completely eradicated.
My ancestors who lived in Latter Pomerania fought and MANY died in it, too. Either as soldiers due to warfare or as collateral damage by bombing or expulsion and rape. My grandmother told me my family was rather national conservative but did not actively support the nazi party. In fact she told me they made jokes about nazis that were completely dangerous of course.
The origins of my grandfather are unclear as he was adopted... he must have been a sunday baby. At least that's the rumor she told me. During the 80s my grandparents went to Poland and found my grandfather's foster mother but she refused to say anything lieing on her deathbed. All documents had been destroyed during the war. He had been a wehrmacht soldier (first lieutenant at the end) and when the war began he was 19. Born in 1920 he entered the war in 1942 or 43 after extensive officer training.
According to my mother's mom (maternal grandmother) our family had been quite big. Today... I belong to the tiny little bit of what once had been quite a big 'dynasty'.
War sucks! Maybe some other contemporary nations will learn this, too.
Appreciate hearing your perspective and your family's history. Thank you for sharing!
@Knut Ritter Yes, war sucks! I am Russian, out of 4 grandfathers who fought with the Nazis, only 2 returned home. I didn't have a chance to ask about the war, since I was born when they were already dead. My mother's family lives in the north near Moscow, my father is from the Urals and the fascists did not get to them and no one else died in the war. My mother's father went to the front as a volunteer at the age of 17 ( he served in Russia from the age of 18 ) in July 1941. He was wounded in the battle of Moscow and captured, escaped and fought until 1944 with the partisans against the Nazis. I don't know anything more, because he didn't like to talk about the war, and my mother didn't ask(( Last year I found the grave of my grandmother's brother, whom the family considered missing. I found out that he fought at Stalingrad, was awarded the medal "For Military Merit", and a year later in December 1943, he died in the battles near Pskov, where he was buried in a mass grave along with 5,000 Red Army soldiers. My father's mother's brother met the war in the Brest fortress (on the border with Poland, the first invasion of the USSR), nothing more is known about him and even in the archives I have not yet found information about his existence, only a letter from him, written to my mother in May 1941 from Brest, remains. I write all this only to show how much grief the war will add, and in my country there is no family that would not have suffered at the hands of the fascists! 27 million Soviet people died during the Second World War!(((Appreciate the world that came at such a price!
This is a false interpretation of the numbers concerning the Second W.W. A distorted picture of history. Giving absolute numbers changes the true dimensions of the tragedy. I come from the country. who suffered the most during the Second W.W. During World War II, Poland suffered the greatest biological losses (for every 1,000 inhabitants, it lost 220 people). For comparison: USA - 2.9, Belgium - 7, Great Britain - 8, France - 15, Netherlands - 22, USSR - 116. It estimated the total personal losses at 6.028 million people, including 3.2 million Polish citizens of Jewish origin. The death losses of the Slavic Polish population under the German occupation amounted to approximately 2,770,000 people. This group does not include the victims of Soviet crimes in the territories incorporated into the USSR after 1939, and it does not include the victims of the UPA crimes in Volhynia. The post-war census showed 24 million, and the census covered 2 million Germans and about 1-1.5 million Poles living in Germany before World War II. Before the war, Poland was inhabited by 35 million citizens. Of which 13 million in the lands annexed by the Soviet Union, 22 million in the areas occupied by Germany. Poland suffered the greatest material losses during World War II. Material losses per capita, which amounted to $ 626 compared to the second Yugoslavia with $ 601. According to materials presented at the International Reparation Conference in Paris in 1946, material losses in Poland amounted to $ 16.9 billion, respectively, in Yugoslavia - $ 9.1 billion. (Losses are given in 1946 value of money.) 2/5 of Poland's cultural assets were completely destroyed and stolen. Under pressure from the great powers, Poland also had to cede 48% of its territory to the Soviet Union, losing about 178,000 km² in the east. Most of the losses resulted from the German occupation, the USSR was responsible for the other part of the losses. One sentence at the end. Stalin killed many more USSR citizens in 1923-39 than they died during the Second World War
@@yakeosicki8965 Your main concern was about using absolute numbers.... in the video relative numbers were used, too. And the video clearly states that it's about human losses in the war and not about material losses. of course they had been huge as well but they are not mentioned in this video.
@@ЛюдмилаК-и4и
EN. Greetings from Brest. In the Brest Fortress, new bodies are found on an ongoing basis, you can go to the places where the excursion is held, and meet a bunch of equipment from the Great Patriotic War. I personally found bones, and a bunch of everything. To come on an excursion, nothing of this can be found, however, people living in Brest know where to look ... It is simply impossible to clear the entire territory, the bones literally come out of the ground over time
It's scary to think how many bodies there are. In Brest, what is not a construction site, then excavations. It comes to the point that children can find bones almost in the sandbox (conventionally).
RU. Приветствую вас из Бреста. В Брестской крепости на постоянной основе находят новые тела, можно идти по крепости (не в местах проведения экскурсии), и встречать кучу снаряжения времен ВОВ. Лично находил кости, и кучу всего. Если приехать на экскурсию, ничего этого не найти, однако люди живущие в Бресте знают где искать... Расчистить всю территорию банально невозможно, кости буквально выходят из-под земли со временем
Страшно подумать, сколько там еще тел. У нас в Бресте, что не стройка, то раскопки. Доходит до того, что чуть ли не в песочнице дети могут находить кости (условно).
Dieser Typ hat’s verstanden! Nazi ist nicht gleich Deutscher❤️
9:23 best teaching you made for this video. Every single American always spewing nazi this and nazi that about world war 2 german soldiers.
that's what I just thought and this was why I browsed through comment section
Yeah, not every Nazi is German. Heck, even some German officers tried to abolish Nazism, most notablely Stauffenburg
@@mustard4762 yes but the majority of the German soldiers new what they were doing, killing hundreds of people by the day and they were civilians!
@@anthonypit3508 its not that simple, there is a lot to it, why people can get pushed to terrible acts. In fact, most of them cant be blamed personally
@@jvv5961 i guess
Ah yes, WW2, or what I like to call it, the great culling of Eurasia.
This video should be shown in history classes! It is in my opinion one of the most differentiated and informative video.
Data on the dead people in the Soviet Union is greatly underestimated, according to the latest data, this figure is three times more and amounts to more than 27 million people!(( In our country, almost every family has suffered from fascism, and there are entire families destroyed by the nazis! ((Eternal memory to our heroes who liberated the world from the fascists!!!
When you mentioned the Rapes in Germany, you understood what the Soviet reasoning was and I was Waiting for someone to point that out. It doesn’t make it any worse than what the Germans did but it gives you a better point of view on why.
Still does not make sense. The Soviets even raped former concentration camp inmates or forced workers. There were also over 100,000 raped women and girls in Poland alone. This was not revenge. And regarding the rapes in Germany, they raped girls as young as 8 and women as old as 80. Revenge does not explain this. This was savagery, not revenge.
@@j.w.b5048 yeah that is fucked up. No excuses
@@j.w.b5048 true. i will understand their anger and hatred towards the germans, but seriously? raping 8 year olds? thats not revenge thats called being psychopath
See,s Russian soldiers haven’t changed at all considering this current conflict
@@j.w.b5048 Dresden bombing was a savagery.
As an American, whenever I think about WW2, I automatically think about Europe and the absolute horror that occurred throughout Europe during the war. I don't know why I don't think about Japan's involvement in the war because upon learning about some of the terrifying atrocities that tool place in the rape of Nanking, I shudder at my own ignorance.
Because American history textbooks censor, distort and manipulate certain historical events.
It is strange, we were brought into the war because of the Japanese, but we’re really only thought about the war against the Nazis. We don’t learn much about fighting the Japanese, let alone about the horrific atrocities they committed. I’ve heard a wide range of theories for why that is, but regardless, I think it would be very important for the American school system to teach more about the war on the other front
"Этот праздник со слезами на глазах..."
9:11 The germans never took full control of Stalingrad
They took about 90% of the city before the Soviet counter attack.
Its nice that you made it clear that no every german was a nazi.
But germans allow Hitler to win election
@@twojstarymojary6598 Sorry but your comment frustrates me somehow.. Please whatch this wonderful film to brighten your view on how it is not as simple as Germany "allowed" Hitler to "win the election": ruclips.net/video/jFICRFKtAc4/видео.html
It's not long and really well explained
@@twojstarymojary6598 Bro, about half of the voters voted mainly the communist or socialist parties. Don't say such stupidity
God.. seeing the number of the Soviets stacking up more and more is just heart wrenching and when you realize the Russian population truly staggered after WWII makes that heart break even worse.. Russia is still suffering from the war in terms of population.. an entire generation worth of men died fighting in that war.. and knowing that makes watching the numbers get visualized feel so much more bone chilling and depressing..
I don’t care how many times I’ve seen this video, that photo of the woman holding her child chokes me up every time. Words cannot describe the cruelty and inhumanity that is conveyed in that photo.
Please react some day WW1 by Epic History THANKS!
Until I watched this video a couple years ago I had always thought that more of the United States soldiers died fighting in the Pacific Theater than the European Theater because of how difficult Japan was making it for the United States to take most of those islands
I remember being surprised when I first learned that breakdown as well.
When you look at raw deaths it dosnt seem as bad as the european theater. But when you look at casualties per square meter thats when the brutality of the pacific war comes into perspective. Losing dozens, hundreds, thousands for these tiny little spits of rock out in the middle of nowhere where you cant have big army engagements.
You should look into the details of the war. It was absolutely horrible. Everything from executions, to how the Russians re-captured Europe.
It was all absolutely horrible.
I couldn't even listen to the stories, in detail, of how Dr. Mengele treated his patients.
@@GoalOrientedLifting how the Russians recaptured Europe? Is that what you said? The Soviets freed Europe from the maniacs! Recaptured? Where in the world you could learn to use this word in the WWII context.
Pacific Island are small. Even if it's carnage like Okinawa you can't fit as many soldiers there as you can do in France.
I felt so uneasy watching the soviet numbers going up. It hit me hard when i realized most of those soldiers had a mother to come home to, a daughter or a son to come home to. A spouse to come home to.
That photo of the mom and the girl getting executed is really heartbreaking. I could only imagine what the mom was thinking. She was probably just trying to calm her kid and letting her know it would be quick. Just saying that is horrifying.
And the little girl… she most likely didn’t understand why she was there and horrified. It makes me cry just thinking about the last thing they would’ve said to each other.
He actually apologized later for calling all german soldiers nazis.
You can tell me the numbers all you want, and I’ll appreciate the magnitude of them, but it never really hit me like seeing it with these graphics. Just wow.
My great uncle was held prisoner in Poland. Growing up in North Dakota, he spoke fluent German and English, so he ended up working as a translator. He saw that the Russian POWs were treated worse than any others, and the Russians couldn't escape. If they returned home, they were shot as cowards.
My old grand father was fighting as a russian soldier, he got jailed in force nazi's mine, he was managed to escape, he died from a cancer next, nothing hapened...do you really thing soviets will dont protect their soldiers ???
Today is the victory day for russia and many other countries . Im from estonia bit its crazy how many russians celebrate it! I went to one today and there was a 94 year old vet.And also my grandpa is a ww2 vet who ousehd the nazis back from russia
Тебе очень повезло увидеть живого ветерана, братан
@@ggeshundra can you translate in english?
You're really lucky, as you have seen an alive veteran, bràtan
My grandpa is a ww2 vet to he is still alive
@@fxbigtoelilzoui1696 wow, a great thing to be proud of
right now there is not much long peace
there is a series called 'war against humanity' which follows the war crimes committed against civilians during the war month by month, and it hits different to see it in real-time. it's only in 1942 and yet every episode hurts. the most important thing I've ever told myself to watch.
link?
Presidents should get in an octagon and battle it out, why sacrifice so many lives.
the USA actually landed on the wrong beach in the Utah landing, wich was fortunate couse it turned out to be a easier landing than the original. also their comanding general was the only high ranking officer to fight with his troops on the battlefield.
its just staggering how many Russians died in WW2, its just insane.
It is. In terms of percentage, Belarus lost 25% of their population.
People say officially 26 million WW2 deaths were Soviets.
@@sneakylike333 27 million
Leonard Cohen once said, "There's no decent place to stand in a massacre." All the nations involved did terrible things during these years and the years that followed. I hope each of us remembers the PEOPLE that died, on both sides, and how tragic the loss of such life is for all of humanity. How many of those millions of people, could have changed our futures with incredible discoveries, innovations, and ideas. Let's keep peace the primary goal of our countries!
Why West just easily forgets how 87000 Indian soldiers fighting under British rule in World War 2 were killed just for the British promise to give India independence and then after winning war not giving Indians their independence ... Not to mention 3 million Indian civilians died during world war 2 the war which India had nothing to do about .... Our ancestors gave ultimate sacrifices just for modern world to comfortably forget it . Its right winners write the history according to their preferences 🙌
Indian indepenence started exactly two years to the day after the end of WW2. How is that not giving independence to India after WW2?
25:51,
Me in 2023: That’s what we call…………Foreshadowing
For Hitler to not have invaded the USSR, he would needed to not be Hitler. It was always in his plans, the east was always the big goal for him and with that, Germany as a whole. The need for "Lebensraum" was clearly outlined in his book (I don't reccomend reading it, it's not very good) as claiming the eastern lands of Poland, the Baltic States and the territories under the USSR.
Also, Germany DID capture a lot of oil fields, especially the ones in Ukraine, which were the first resource target for Germany.
9:20 Thank you
"Never go to war with Russia... - - Bismarck.
hold my beer - Polish
@@catchapl Well, il worked. Once.
@@catchapl Lol Poland has an inglorious history. She belonged to someone for centuries and sat under someone, her military history is a joke
@@catchapl ? took advantage of a crumbling revolutionary state and an exhausted people ?
@@Anonymous-qj3sfLet's take a closer look
Mieszko I (960-992) - first recorded ruler of Poland, mixed fortunę at first, but at the end he incorporated Silesia and Pomerania, victorius battle at Cedynia
▪︎ Boleslaw I Brave (992-1025) - first Polish king, incorporated territory in almost every direction (modern Saxony, Moravia, Slovakia, future Eastern Galicia, periodically Czechia, lost Western Pomerania), defeated Holy Roman Emperor Henry II and plundered Kiev itself
▪︎ Mieszko II (1025-1031, 1032-1034) - attacked by both HRE and Rus, lost all of his father conquests
▪︎ after his death Czech prince Brzetyslaw I obliterated Poland and burned its capital, not gonna lie, it was a disaster, country practically ceased to exist
▪︎ Casimir I Restorer (1039-1058) - with German help reclaimed half of the country, second half by himself
▪︎ Boleslaw II Bold/Generous (1058-1079) - many foreign imterventions, usually effective, some failures
▪︎ Wladyslaw Herman (1079-1102) - relative peace, failure in Pomerania
▪︎ Boleslaw III Mouthcurved (1102-1138) - repelled German invasion, conquered Pomerania, blundered in Hungary
▪︎ Boleslaw III divided country between his sons, 182 year fragmentation period, to complex to talk about, most of territory were annexed by neighbours, periodically Czechia controlled 2/3 of Poland
▪︎ Wladyslaw I Elbow-sized (1320-1333) reunited country (well, half of it), unresolved battle with Teutonic Order at Płowce
▪︎ Casimir III Great (1333-1370) - doubled country's się, partly by dyplomaci, party because of victories against Lithuania
▪︎ Louis I Hungarian (1370-1382) - no wars
▪︎ Wladyslaw II Jagiello (1386-1434) - battle at Grunwald 1410, most celebrated Polush victory, three other wars which ended in a draw
▪︎ Wladyslaw III Warnesee (1434-1444) - loser from Warna
▪︎ Casimir IV Jagiellonian (1447-1492) - won 13 years war, effectively neutralizing Teutonic Order
▪︎ John I Olbracht (1492-1501) - defeat in Moldova
▪︎ Alexander I Jagiellonian (1501-1506) - no wars
▪︎ Sigmundus I Old (1506-1548) - lost territory to Grand Duchy of Moscow, though Poland won battle at Orsha
▪︎ Sigmundus II Augustus (1548-1572) - won 1st Northern War, incorporated Inflants
▪︎ Stephen I Batory (1576-1586) - repelled Russian invasion of Inflants
▪︎ Sigmundus III Wasa (1587-1632) - Kircholm 1605(+), Kluszyn 1610(+), Poland occupies Moscow, Dywilin armistice(+), biggest territorial extent, Cecora 1620(-), Chocim 1621(+)then humiliating defeat by Sweden in 1629, but c'mon it was Gustavus Adolfus
▪︎ Wladislaw IV (1632-1648) - repelled Russian invasion
▪︎ John Casimir II (1648-1668) - Poland was costantly at war with Cossacks, Sweden or Russia, few defeats - Korsun, Yellow Waters, Pilawce, Batoh, few victories - Beresteczko, Warka, Polonka, overall lose of territory but I'd call Finał result success
▪︎ Michael I (1668-1672) - lose of Kamieniec Podolski and humiliating peace treaty, victory at Chocim
▪︎ John III Sobieski (1676-1697) - siege of Vienna(+), 1st battle at Parkany(-), 2nd battle at Parkany(+)
▪︎ August II Strong (1697-1706, 1709-1733) - disaster in III Northern War
▪︎ Polish-Lithuanian Commenwealth has becomed through the years very weak country and puppet of Rusdia, efforts to fight failed in Polish-Russian war in 1792
▪︎ 1795 - Poland lose independence
▪︎ Pish help Napoleon, battle at Somosierra(+), battle at Raszyn(+), Polish troops were first to enter Moscow
▪︎ 1830-1831 - November Uprising (-)
▪︎ 1848 - Greater Poland Uprising (-)
▪︎ 1863-1864 - January Uprising (-)
▪︎ after WW1 Poland had succesful uprising in Greater Poland against Germany and eventually victorius war against bolsheviks, battle at Warsaw 1920 (+)
▪︎ September 1939 - invaded from two sides, not much could be done, though commanders were really bad
▪︎ Polish Air Division 303 was best in the Battle for England
▪︎ Polish troops won the battle at Monte Cassino
▪︎ 1944 - Warsaw Uprising (-)
Overall, most of the campaigns and battles were won, although it's like 60%, not 90%. Definitely, you can't say Polish military record is a joke.
As a German who lost grandfathers and great grandfathers in that war, I can really appreciate that you took the time to distinguish between ordinary Germans and real Nazis. We know most about just half of the family, the other half is kind of shrouded in mystery due to chaos, family splits etc. but of the ancestors I know about who fell/fought in WW2, none of them were real Nazis. The real Nazis are those engaging with the Nazis/Nazi party from its inception until 1939. One even was a communist, resisting the Nazis as much as possible, but he eventually had to back down and serve to protect his family and children. He spent years in soviet work camps and would never speak a word of the war, but the trauma was always visible for everyone.
I take it as a personal insult when people gernalise all Germans who lived through the war as "Nazis", in fact, most of the actual army personnel were no nazis but were forced or coerced into serving for the Nazi regime. Fighting back is not as easy as some people make it out to be, you not only run the risk of being killed yourself but also your entire family being executed or sent off to the camps. If you have the choice of going to war with a slim chance of survival, most people would take that over certain death for you and your peers.
*27 Million Soviets*
*20 Million Chinese*
*7.4 Million Nazis*
*6 Million Jews*
*4 Million Dutch east Indies*
*3.1 Million Japanese*
*2.5 Million Indian Soldiers(under British Army)*
*3 Million all others combined*
I remember watching this in my college history class. We were all so shocked and dumbfounded that once the video was over, it was SO quiet you could hear a pin drop
damn the Soviet union really fought for their country
You forget with the mobile extermination group the soldiers would suffer alot too so that was also a reason why they stopped. I've seen documentaries about Ukraine it was horrible to watch and that is what I really appreciate about you that you can see that you think about the families and the individuals. Thank you for these vids I've been stuck watching you for the whole day today
Poor dears, how the butchers suffered! They could have refused and would have been transferred to other duties as happened in a very small number of cases
I don't think Stalin would invade Germany as he was taking a defensive position and trying to keep the germans calm as much as he could, while in fact building fortifications and setting up landmines along the border. In fact, since the fall of France, the Soviet High Command already knew the germans would attack due to the huge amount of divisions and planes moving to the german side of Poland, it was Stalin that made the war preparations slow and thought he could solve the problems with Germany in a diplomatic way. In june 22nd he even gave the order to the soldiers not to attack any german territory until they were sure that diplomacy wasn't going to work.
The Allies also would send to Stalin details about the german divisions preparing to attack and Churchill even offered Stalin to send a British Expeditionary Force to Russia when Germany attacked, to which Stalin said no thinking it was a provocation to escalate tensions between Germany and the USSR.
Another fun fact is that, a german scout plane was flying over the occupied Baltic countries pre invasion in 1941, when the soviets shot the plane down, Stalin directly intervened and told the soldiers to treat the pilot, they later gave him dinner, medical treatment and allowed him to go back to Germany. War between the two powers was the last thing Stalin wanted.
he was building up an invasion force in 1941, and had plans to invade. (thats why his defense was so bad intially, most of his units were concentrated on the border in prporation for a soviet attack, which made it easier for the germans to encircle them)
The part about peace in Europe sadly isn’t all true. Apart from Georgia there is the Balkan wars, Cyprus and in 2014 Crimea(Ukraine)
Crimean takeover was more or less peaceful though. The civil war in the Eastern Ukraine is definitely not peaceful though, yeah.
Some people think Europe means Germany, France, UK and Benelux countries.
@@kacperwoch4368 yeah, probably true.
@@Someone-lr6gu peaceful? Go watch some footage of that small war. Far from peaceful.
@@direct2397 Russian soldiers in the area literally had no magazines/ammo with them, because there was no need for them. Almost all the ukrainian garrisons peacefully surrendered. Only 4 people died during the entire thing due to minor conflicts, and 2 people died because of conflicts between 2 different protests groups, while the other 2 died during an assault on UAF's photogrammetric center. Even then, it's unknown as to why that assault even started in the first place. So yes, this was relatively peaceful.
In the video's comments he apologizes for using the term Nazi.
9:20 earned my respect.
The mobile killing groups remind me of the Khmer Rouge and their “killing fields” the Khmer Rouge killed about a quarter of all Cambodia. Amazing (not in the good sense) that one could kill so many.
I didn’t know I would appreciate the differentiation between nazis and germans so much. what’s often forgotten is that Germany annexed austria and Austrian soldiers were forced into the war. my great grandfather was 19 when Germany annexed Austria and he had to fight on both the western front and eastern front and never once adopted the nazi ideology - he was a communist before the war and after.
Salute to the German's that tried to assassinate Hitler and Germans that helped Jews.
Half of my 4 grandgrandfathers’ brothers and uncles are in those Soviet military column.
And it is impossible to find their graves, because most of them are missing
I just want to say in the original video he expresses the aspect of him saying nazi soldiers and saying it was a mistake and it didn’t occur in the foreign version of the videos
I just wanna add, that starvation of Leningrad was a German means of ... let's say population control. Hitler planned to starve Moscow and Leningrad to death and completely destroy the cities. Tsarist palaces in outskirts of Leningrad were purposefully destroyed by them. Surrendering would never help the people of Leningrad.
I alway find it sad and almost unfair, that on 26th January, the Holocaust remembrance day, hardly ever someone tries to remember the Leningrad siege. Yet Leningrad and Auschwitz were liberated on the very same day by the Red Army. Only Auschwitz a year later
Don't worry, some of us still remember....us from the soviet union countries remember
@@ak-77 Thanks to your predecessors for fighting the evil. My country (Slovakia), unfortunately, joined it.
The USSR and Hitler unleashed this slaughter! Don't write nonsense, see Warsaw. This is a joint work of Hitler and Stalin. View the clip City of Ruin Warsaw. This is a false interpretation of the numbers concerning the Second W.W. A distorted picture of history. Giving absolute numbers changes the true dimensions of the tragedy. I come from the country. who suffered the most during the Second W.W. During World War II, Poland suffered the greatest biological losses (for every 1,000 inhabitants, it lost 220 people). For comparison: USA - 2.9, Belgium - 7, Great Britain - 8, France - 15, Netherlands - 22, USSR - 116. It estimated the total personal losses at 6.028 million people, including 3.2 million Polish citizens of Jewish origin. The death losses of the Slavic Polish population under the German occupation amounted to approximately 2,770,000 people. This group does not include the victims of Soviet crimes in the territories incorporated into the USSR after 1939, and it does not include the victims of the UPA crimes in Volhynia. The post-war census showed 24 million, and the census covered 2 million Germans and about 1-1.5 million Poles living in Germany before World War II. Before the war, Poland was inhabited by 35 million citizens. Of which 13 million in the lands annexed by the Soviet Union, 22 million in the areas occupied by Germany. Poland suffered the greatest material losses during World War II. Material losses per capita, which amounted to $ 626 compared to the second Yugoslavia with $ 601. According to materials presented at the International Reparation Conference in Paris in 1946, material losses in Poland amounted to $ 16.9 billion, respectively, in Yugoslavia - $ 9.1 billion. (Losses are given in 1946 value of money.) 2/5 of Poland's cultural assets were completely destroyed and stolen. Under pressure from the great powers, Poland also had to cede 48% of its territory to the Soviet Union, losing about 178,000 km² in the east. Most of the losses resulted from the German occupation, the USSR was responsible for the other part of the losses. One sentence at the end. Stalin killed many more USSR citizens in 1923-39 than they died during the Second World War
@@yakeosicki8965 Don't bother me with your falsehood
@@yakeosicki8965 dumb pole, I understand your losses, but since of your facts are wrong, stalin did not kill more people than ww2, he killed about 20 million soviet people, which wasn't just Russians, 25+million died in ww2, the whole Eastern European countries lost huge amount, Soviets lost 25 million can u imagine that, yes compared to the population of not as high of a percentage but the sheer amount of people slaughtered by nazis is insane and a massive loss, what the comment here is saying is that even tho stalin did do horrible things and I absolutely despise him, without Soviets there probably wouldn't be such a thing as polish or Russian etc people anymore, they would have all been killed, I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for them and u probably wouldn't either, just remember that ok
15:10 Aushwitz. Over 1M only jewish killed. I'm calculate just to imagine if collect 1 million bodies 50kg(110 lb) each (not only adults was captured and low weight due starvation) in one place you get pile of dead bodies over 81ft (24.5meters, 8-9 store building) height.
It is almost same size as Pyramid of Ameny Qemau located in southern Dahshur.
And those bodies can more than 4 times fill volume of Elizabeth Tower (aka Big Ben) up to the roof.
And from all fallen in WWII bodies can be collected pile comparable with Great Pyramid of Giza.
P.S.:
16:54 Every 5th or 6th(16.7-19.8%) Polish citizen and (almost) every 6th(16.2-17.1%) Soviet citizen has die due WW2
The threat of nuclear war essentially brought relative peace. None of the wealthy nations see the potential losses of a nuclear conflict as worth the potential gains of a successful war.
We must be thankful to nuclear weapons and people who invented it.
@@danielunnamed9438 And yet the UN has made a treaty to prohibit and ultimately eliminate these weapons. I worry this might be a terrible mistake.
@@yashjoseph3544 yeah. Nukes keep us from WW3.
@@danielunnamed9438 Or they are the first and last weapon.
@@danielunnamed9438 There are many more weapons of mass destruction other then nuclear bombs. Think of chemical warfare.
24:25 Incredible to watch this scene from the perpective of 2022, that this peace was broken by the Russians invading Ukraine.
Unfortunately (or not, depending on your perspective), it was not - we are still in the long peace, as it was presented in the video. There's a reason the cutoff was a deliberate, human cutoff "44th largest economy" - and unfortunately, Ukraine's economy was the 74th largest economy in the world prior to invasion according to Wikipedia. The war in Ukraine by Russia would be part of the calculated long peace cost, and a subset addition to the 3.5 million deaths in interstate war. I'm not trying to minimalize it, it's a global catastrophe and tragedy, but rather point out how the numbers for it would be reflected in the video.
And let us hope that, for the sake of all, my comment here will not age poorly, and the large powers will not go to war.
Try to find info about Donetsk, Odessa, Lugansk. Watch this numbers and think about ukr nazi.
@@LeMontAgr stop trying to push that
Привет из России/Hello from Russia
Тоже в рекомендациях выпало?
@@Alikfox27 да
i jusdt don't like the fact that he detailed so much about nazi warcrime but excused japan but he still mentioned about their warcrimes. in my view japan are mucn more evil in their warcrimes compare to the nazi