I was diagnosed "BPD traits" and GAD, adaptive disorder. My therapist said I just have CPTSD from my abusive upbringing and it just clicked. Made complete sense to me
hey! when you would split, how would u react as seeing the people involved? they say if u see your mind what it thinks while seeing black or white can help u know ur illness. As many mental disorders split not just bpd
@@Luke-Emmanuel I never heard of that before. I would see them as untrustworthy and as generally bad people with bad intentions toward me. Not in a paranoia way but how I saw their personalities
Wow…I cannot tell you how significant this is for me. I received a BPD diagnosis thirty years ago-from a man who described himself as a BPD expert in our small town-and everything I read about it describes it almost like a death sentence. I refused to allow it to define me and what you say here makes me realize it was so not me! The interpersonal conflict was because I was dealing with people who were quite possibly narcissists and psychopaths who were entitled and seemed to enjoy hurting others. I had also been dealing with the death of a child, an enormous amount of stress running a business and raising a family, and a spouse who was pretty much absentee. “Emotional disregulation” is more of what I was really experiencing. After separating from my spouse, I stumbled upon narcissism videos and realized how badly I had been gaslighted over the years, separated from my children, and controlled in the most subtle of ways. I knew all along that something wasn’t right and would often experience him denying he said things and telling me I was crazy, which perpetuates the cycle… He also hd a habit of weaving untruths around 2% of the truth, the latter of which made me believe I was wrong… Thank you for all the work you are doing to help people heal a world of hurt and to give fresh information to those of us who have been wrongly misdiagnosed. 🙏
There’s no safeguards against misdiagnosing, or over diagnosing BPD. All literature I find when looking for this about missing BPD, and/ or over diagnosing bipolar. When will the mental health system learn from their mistakes?
Decade before a lot of women were misdiagnosed as bipolar that had BPD but now BPD has gained awareness it somewhat has gained popularity so now it seems like both disorders have switched diagnosing bipolar, anti social,depression with BPD.
It’s not just emotional disregulation… It’s splitting.. The splitting and discarding is ridiculous.. they can drop a person in an INSTANT. This isn’t normal
“Because of the cultural filters we use, men typically are not given the diagnosis of BPD” Interesting because society also tends to gloss over male anger but judge females crying…. On the flip side, women are sometimes recognized as healthier in being more in touch with their emotions and men being overly intellectual…. I also like how it was pointed out on this video how all of the criteria for BPD, if looked at closely, can apply to so many people as general descriptions of what people in the world 🌍 generally go through.. So was this a convenient diagnosis that got pushed through for political reasons which has done more harm than good??
absolutely. imo, "BPD" is most of the time, more accurately another Axis I disorder. I had a really, really bad therapist that tried to give me the BPD label man years ago even though it did not fit me and she did not do any tests. I have a childhood diagnosis of asperger's syndrome, but she didn't acknowledge, and I didn't realize that she didn't acknowledge it until she tried to dx BPD. The diagnostic rule back then was: if the symptoms such as "emotional dysregulation" appeared in childhood, before adolescence, then it was autism/other developmental disorder, not personality disorder. In BPD the symptoms don't emerge until the person is older. I think what happened to me, is that my therapist was trying to get rid of me...I don't think she liked me personally, but she had no choice to treat me as this was a government agency, and I think there was serious miscommunication between us because of my autism and her refusal to acknowledge my autism and how it affects my communication.
Yes she has to reexperience those emotions !because! : ) Through reexperiencing smth. (Ex. through dreams , recolection, flashbacks etc.) the mind actually integrates the traumatic experience, it has less and less of an emotional weight attached to it, and consequently it fades away, it doesnt hurt anymore. And besides, the technique that you just mentioned, pretending smth. happened to somebody else, a child.. its also reexperiencing the trauma, only indirectly ❤
their seems to be a misunderstanding for many folks out their that those with ptsd can just snap out of it and all they got to do is be strong and reprogram them selfs you can't get no more stupid than that
Is it really true tho that narcissists aren't people pleasers??? Aren't they also codependents? Or can be? Cuz the covert one I know was a narcissist (and BPD) and my counsellor friend confirmed, was also a people pleaser. But also manipulative and exploitative. I see the same in ppl i suspect are on the spectrum for narcissism, but that are also surely codependemts, hell could be a mascot for it. So it seems to me codependents can definitely be narcissists/BPD, that is exploitative. I went one further and thought they'd all be codependents, but from what I can understand from Sam's work haha perhaps not all...
6.28 the disordered side of the personality describes the person i knew. He would say things and literally say he didnt say it or he may have said it. Total mind fuc*. He had most of the symptoms of BPD no rage though. He was child like and would talk about "Mr Robin" and "Mr badger" that lived in his garden. He had lack of object constancy. He'd split. He had terrible linear memory. Had a history of child abuse that he told me about on the first date. He is also a high functioning millionaire. I don't know if this is BPD. Or covert narcissist. He was entilted and grandiose (at times) He was masochistic too. He'd also be confused and needed someone to provide identity. Very sick individual and severely disordered. He married someone 3 months after i broke up with him. It's taken me 15 months just to be able to go on one date. Stay away from love bombing fantasy based people. None of it is real! They can take away your will to live
Richard hit the head on the nail when he said men are very predatory I suffered a huge blow thinking others would care about the Yuman body as much as I once did... Tp them its a game. Head games a d the person gets do disregulated trying to just survive the abuse thw cultural forger us " attack boy for that abuse. Pat on the back "
While it's important to stop misdiagnosing I don't agree we should lump all ppl that are emotionally deregulated and not label differently the ones that are exploitative. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply place MORE weight on exploitative behaviour in diagnosis
Demons in the temple, is what our culture calls "Bipolar Personality Disorder." If afflicted people run to the Messiah to ask Him to be their Savior, then make Him the Master of their temple/body, these people can call out the demons, in the Name of the Messiah. However, one must make the Messiah their Master, but always putting the Creator above all, nonetheless. If a person calls out demons from his temple, but continues to sin by choice, for example, the demon leaves, wanders, then returns, bringing 7 more vile demons with him (the demon). // All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Hayah (Romans 3:23). The wages for sin is death but the gift of ALaHYM is Everlasting Life through Messiah Yahushgh our Master (Romans 6:23). That if you confess with your mouth the Master Yahushgh and believe in your heart that ALaHYM raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved (Romans 10:9). He Himself is an Atoning Offering for our sins, and not for ours only but also for all the world (1 John 2:2). The Messiah died on the cross, & Resurrected three days later (presenting Himself as First Fruits to the Father). Please ask Him to be your Savior. He is the ONLY way to Everlasting Life.
What you say is ill-informed and dangerous. Please do not purport to be an expert on personality disorders when you lack the credentials and expertise; this is a highly complex area. I ask that you think a little more responsibly and carefully about your choice of words and inflammatory language.
While it's important to stop misdiagnosing I don't agree we should lump all ppl that are emotionally deregulated and not label differently the ones that are exploitative. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply place MORE weight on exploitative behaviour in diagnosis
I was diagnosed "BPD traits" and GAD, adaptive disorder. My therapist said I just have CPTSD from my abusive upbringing and it just clicked. Made complete sense to me
hey! when you would split, how would u react as seeing the people involved? they say if u see your mind what it thinks while seeing black or white can help u know ur illness. As many mental disorders split not just bpd
@@Luke-Emmanuel I never heard of that before. I would see them as untrustworthy and as generally bad people with bad intentions toward me. Not in a paranoia way but how I saw their personalities
Wow…I cannot tell you how significant this is for me. I received a BPD diagnosis thirty years ago-from a man who described himself as a BPD expert in our small town-and everything I read about it describes it almost like a death sentence. I refused to allow it to define me and what you say here makes me realize it was so not me! The interpersonal conflict was because I was dealing with people who were quite possibly narcissists and psychopaths who were entitled and seemed to enjoy hurting others. I had also been dealing with the death of a child, an enormous amount of stress running a business and raising a family, and a spouse who was pretty much absentee. “Emotional disregulation” is more of what I was really experiencing. After separating from my spouse, I stumbled upon narcissism videos and realized how badly I had been gaslighted over the years, separated from my children, and controlled in the most subtle of ways. I knew all along that something wasn’t right and would often experience him denying he said things and telling me I was crazy, which perpetuates the cycle… He also hd a habit of weaving untruths around 2% of the truth, the latter of which made me believe I was wrong…
Thank you for all the work you are doing to help people heal a world of hurt and to give fresh information to those of us who have been wrongly misdiagnosed. 🙏
There’s no safeguards against misdiagnosing, or over diagnosing BPD. All literature I find when looking for this about missing BPD, and/ or over diagnosing bipolar. When will the mental health system learn from their mistakes?
I appreciate that you said we don't need to "feel" that again... because it was in the past
Decade before a lot of women were misdiagnosed as bipolar that had BPD but now BPD has gained awareness it somewhat has gained popularity so now it seems like both disorders have switched diagnosing bipolar, anti social,depression with BPD.
It’s not just emotional disregulation…
It’s splitting..
The splitting and discarding is ridiculous.. they can drop a person in an INSTANT.
This isn’t normal
“Because of the cultural filters we use, men typically are not given the diagnosis of BPD” Interesting because society also tends to gloss over male anger but judge females crying…. On the flip side, women are sometimes recognized as healthier in being more in touch with their emotions and men being overly intellectual…. I also like how it was pointed out on this video how all of the criteria for BPD, if looked at closely, can apply to so many people as general descriptions of what people in the world 🌍 generally go through.. So was this a convenient diagnosis that got pushed through for political reasons which has done more harm than good??
absolutely. imo, "BPD" is most of the time, more accurately another Axis I disorder. I had a really, really bad therapist that tried to give me the BPD label man years ago even though it did not fit me and she did not do any tests. I have a childhood diagnosis of asperger's syndrome, but she didn't acknowledge, and I didn't realize that she didn't acknowledge it until she tried to dx BPD. The diagnostic rule back then was: if the symptoms such as "emotional dysregulation" appeared in childhood, before adolescence, then it was autism/other developmental disorder, not personality disorder. In BPD the symptoms don't emerge until the person is older. I think what happened to me, is that my therapist was trying to get rid of me...I don't think she liked me personally, but she had no choice to treat me as this was a government agency, and I think there was serious miscommunication between us because of my autism and her refusal to acknowledge my autism and how it affects my communication.
Yes she has to reexperience those emotions !because! : ) Through reexperiencing smth. (Ex. through dreams , recolection, flashbacks etc.) the mind actually integrates the traumatic experience, it has less and less of an emotional weight attached to it, and consequently it fades away, it doesnt hurt anymore. And besides, the technique that you just mentioned, pretending smth. happened to somebody else, a child.. its also reexperiencing the trauma, only indirectly ❤
I agree
their seems to be a misunderstanding for many folks out their
that those with ptsd can just snap out of it and all they got to do is be strong
and reprogram them selfs you can't get no more stupid than that
The one thing that I think guarantees it is the splitting…
Grand work Mr Grannon 👑💫👊
Is it really true tho that narcissists aren't people pleasers??? Aren't they also codependents? Or can be? Cuz the covert one I know was a narcissist (and BPD) and my counsellor friend confirmed, was also a people pleaser. But also manipulative and exploitative. I see the same in ppl i suspect are on the spectrum for narcissism, but that are also surely codependemts, hell could be a mascot for it. So it seems to me codependents can definitely be narcissists/BPD, that is exploitative. I went one further and thought they'd all be codependents, but from what I can understand from Sam's work haha perhaps not all...
Kinda surprised someone so brilliant as to create thr concept of cptsd would think of something so dumb :)
6.28 the disordered side of the personality describes the person i knew. He would say things and literally say he didnt say it or he may have said it.
Total mind fuc*. He had most of the symptoms of BPD no rage though.
He was child like and would talk about "Mr Robin" and "Mr badger" that lived in his garden.
He had lack of object constancy. He'd split. He had terrible linear memory.
Had a history of child abuse that he told me about on the first date.
He is also a high functioning millionaire.
I don't know if this is BPD.
Or covert narcissist. He was entilted and grandiose (at times)
He was masochistic too.
He'd also be confused and needed someone to provide identity.
Very sick individual and severely disordered.
He married someone 3 months after i broke up with him.
It's taken me 15 months just to be able to go on one date.
Stay away from love bombing fantasy based people.
None of it is real!
They can take away your will to live
Richard hit the head on the nail when he said men are very predatory I suffered a huge blow thinking others would care about the Yuman body as much as I once did... Tp them its a game. Head games a d the person gets do disregulated trying to just survive the abuse thw cultural forger us " attack boy for that abuse. Pat on the back "
While it's important to stop misdiagnosing I don't agree we should lump all ppl that are emotionally deregulated and not label differently the ones that are exploitative. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply place MORE weight on exploitative behaviour in diagnosis
Stroking a BPD persons ego is a brilliant start to this interview, cut the crap & get real,call her out on it & move forward.
I still really think the process to becoming NPD/BPD is [often] just becoming more and more bitter in codeodekcy
Demons in the temple, is what our culture calls "Bipolar Personality Disorder." If afflicted people run to the Messiah to ask Him to be their Savior, then make Him the Master of their temple/body, these people can call out the demons, in the Name of the Messiah. However, one must make the Messiah their Master, but always putting the Creator above all, nonetheless. If a person calls out demons from his temple, but continues to sin by choice, for example, the demon leaves, wanders, then returns, bringing 7 more vile demons with him (the demon). // All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Hayah (Romans 3:23). The wages for sin is death but the gift of ALaHYM is Everlasting Life through Messiah Yahushgh our Master (Romans 6:23). That if you confess with your mouth the Master Yahushgh and believe in your heart that ALaHYM raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved (Romans 10:9). He Himself is an Atoning Offering for our sins, and not for ours only but also for all the world (1 John 2:2). The Messiah died on the cross, & Resurrected three days later (presenting Himself as First Fruits to the Father). Please ask Him to be your Savior. He is the ONLY way to Everlasting Life.
What you say is ill-informed and dangerous. Please do not purport to be an expert on personality disorders when you lack the credentials and expertise; this is a highly complex area. I ask that you think a little more responsibly and carefully about your choice of words and inflammatory language.
While it's important to stop misdiagnosing I don't agree we should lump all ppl that are emotionally deregulated and not label differently the ones that are exploitative. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply place MORE weight on exploitative behaviour in diagnosis