The intent of Carb Cheater is to make the tuning experience much more enjoyable, to mitigate all the annoying guess work which always puts a negative spin on Carbs. I hated it for years, but loved classic cars - I tried to make the thing I always with I had when I was learning, plus its just handy to have anyway. It was something I wanted myself, and to this point it had never existed.
@@fifthlomat717we don't make any money on carb cheater, but im also one of those weird people that loves going to work. I don't feel like I accomplished anything otherwise and it's always a good challenge at my current place. 🙂
it sounds to me like you have funny words. you never mention the actually mixing of fuel and other than it's dynamic air bleed/leak. so in that case it sounds like it might be best to adjust the carb slightly rich since the cheat can't actually add fuel to the intake runners but, it can add more air! EDIT: unless the metering blocks add fuel based on vacuum.
This devise was a great idea, but the supposed carb tuners and carb makers might hate it. Think about how it might cut into their little scams and bucks they lose, if the devise fixes peoples tunes or does so mostly on their carbs.
Oldskool carb guy here...whoever gives this guy flack over this needs a reality check. We need guys like this on our side, he's sharp as a tack, and has an inventive brain, hell ya...nobody should be giving him flack for simply trying to invent something that helps our cause. Kudos to you man...keep making stuff.
I believe that the AFR is as steady as it is displayed on his phone. It makes since because it is a static leak, only adjusting what comes out of the carburetor which is doing the leg work well enough on it's own. I could only imagine carb tuning was absolutely essential before EFI was standard, and that EFI actually sucks for efficiency, because controlling the smaller volume positively is ridiculous, and also because volumetric efficiency is not efficient at all, because expansion volume is greater than the intake, so VE will make an engine more power dense, but less efficient, the only way to get greater efficiency that way is if the power to weight ratio was much higher, in which case 2 strokes would be more efficient.
So Luke, I have not read all the comments, but I am one of the older guys... 63 to be exact. I grew up with hot rods in the 60's and 70's along with a lot of drag racing. I have seen so many people that did not understand how to setup their car, or for that matter know how to size or tune a carb! This device, the CC, is just the tool to help with getting the carb set correctly. I am not sure why that is not understood. They need to take Derek "VGG" advice, "I got to believe it, because it's right there in front of me"! BTW - I am a software/program guy in the aerospace industry. I for one am really interested to be able to analyze data from the CC. Looking forward to getting my CC in the next round. Thanks again to you and Joe.
I love it, it give the user to see what is going on with their vehicle with out having to go and buy $1000 worth of EFI stuff... This is something we needed.
With EFI you would be spending over $1000 just to make your car more complicated, and less reliable as well. With the CC if it breaks down, you just don't care and run the car like a normal carburetor. Simplicity is what we like!
The fact it's an entirely passive system in the case of failure is really what sold me. Carbs are my jam for the sake of simplicity and the right to repair. I don't like black box devices that will leave me stranded, so when I saw Luke actually selling this kit he's talked about for a while now; I just bout lost my mind. Proudly on the wait list for the beta tester units! 😊👍
Uncle Luke you are doing the Lords work for the young lads of today. Carbs, manual trans, old cars kept on the road all these things are TRUE Environmentalism Keep up the good work
All i have ever wanted (im 48) is to be able to trim my carb's just that extra little bit that the CC brings. Thanks for taking the time with your knowledge and making this happen.
I pre-ordered a Carb Cheater because I like to know where I'm at with my carb tuning. I think I have it tuned pretty well by ear but with out a wide band, which I was going to buy before you developed the Carb Cheater, I didn't really know for certain. The automatic vacuum tuning was the cherry on top. Thank you for inventing the Carb Cheater and for your informative videos.
Sir, was it you that did the video and explained it’s like a controlled vacuum leak? If so, that’s what sold me. Let me understand what in the hell is going on and how it works sold me.
Be proud of what you've made, bro. I plan one purchasing one soon. I love the idea that it gives you some flexibility like EFI, but if it goes bad, you're not stuck like you would be if an ECM goes nuts. I've always wanted to learn more about carbs and plan on picking up a classic soon to enjoy. I love the self sufficiency of being able to maintain your vehicle without the need of thousands of dollars in scanning equip. The fact you still have to know how to get your carb right, even with the carb cheater, for everything to work is great. Just takes the weakness of changes in variables that carbs inherently have. Thanks for following through with this project. Been follow8ng for a while.
You and your partner created an amazing device, someone like me who doesn't have the experience of veteran mechanics truly appreciate your efforts. I can't wait til I can save up the money and buy one for my 67 mustang convertible, don't let anyone put down what you created!
I’m 55, been watching your videos for alongtime. When i saw the carb cheater and realized what it is, i got excited about the possibility it represents. I’ve always felt carbs are a compromise in a daily driver application. If you set your carb to perform it’s absolute best at w.o.t. It may not perform as well at lower rpm’s or midrange…if you find the perfect cruise setting, w.o.t. Might not be as good….not saying it would be bad, i just think for a carb to be good all around, you have to compromise a bit. I think carb cheater can help get us closer to a really good tune with less compromise. Therefore, i like it. I’ve been talking to my friends about it, so far only a couple like the concept as much as me. I can’t explain that. What’s not to like? Thanks for your effort!
@@ThunderHead289 man i got a kick out of the comment you made about the technology difference in the old feedback carbs and the technology in carb cheater. I can’t tell you how many feedback carbs and electronic spark control distributors i removed in the late 80’s early 90’s. The technology just wasn’t there back then. And for sure….in the 80’s it would have taken a building full of computers to amount to the electronics of the carb cheater and the phone interface. That’s where respect comes into play. I’ve been tuning carbs of all kinds sense i was very young. But when it comes to utilizing the technology that you have used make our old friend the carburetor easier to work with and function better, i’m not knowledgeable enough to get it done. But i think i can figure out hooking it up and using it! Lol
Great video, the fact that the carb cheater can be removed or fail entirely and the car will still run on the old-fashioned carburetor is why I find this so much more enticing than an EFI swap. The best parts of the reliability of an all-mechanical carb and the superior control of modern computers. Keep it up man, grumpy old boomers are gonna be grumpy no matter what you do....
Thank you so much, looking forward to purchasing one of your carb cheaters soon I've been Following you for quite a while I've been building cars almost my entire life. All cooperated, and I've learned more from you over the years than anything I've ever read.
Keep up the great work Luke! This is my FAVORITE RUclips channel! Pre-ordered my Carb Cheater and can’t wait for it to arrive. I’ve dialed in my dual Dellorto carbs for idle and WOT, but the progression circuit and transition to the main jets for efficient cruise has been tricky. The Carb Cheater’s “dynamic vacuum leak” will get me that last little bit of fine tuning and auto adjustment I’ve been searching for. THANK YOU!!! I’ve shared your videos with all me friends and can’t wait for them to test drive my car with the Carb Cheater installed. The data logging is worth it’s weight in gold.
Thanks Luke, you answered a lot of my questions. I'm retired and now build old mustangs, sometimes these old carburetors can be very tricky. You have come up with the perfect solution. Been checking reviews of people who have tried your product, and those who have tried Carb Cheater have given you a high approval ratings. I'm almost sold! Love your channel.
Keep up the good work! This will help hot rodding with out a doubt. In its truest form innovation is what the hobby / lifestyle is all about. This whole thing stared when the lads came home from the war and slapped a V8 in a Model A. There were a few raised eyebrows back then too.
Im 42 years old, I just got into muscle car building a few years ago (software engineer by day). I have struggled a bit with carb tuning, so I think a product like this is brilliant! I especially like being able to tune to different parameters on the fly, makes the process of experimenting or dialing in the car much more efficient, and probably more accurate too! Don't let the old dinosaurs discourage you. You have a brilliant product here that will help many people, allowing the hobbyist mechanic to do more for themself (like me!!). Think I'm going to get one of these to see if it can help me out with my '83 camaro with a street demon carb that I have managed to get close but not perfect. Thanks for all that you do!
Luke to hell with them, you're doing a great job. I just ordered one of your kits, not because I don't know how to tune but more so as a tool. I was get ready to buy an afr gauge kit, and after watching what you have done with carb cheater, this just made more sense. With carb cheater and its data logging alone, I will be able to fine-tune my advance curve and vacuum pot so much easier! It's hard for one guy to drive down the road and pay attention to a vac gauge while operating a mighty vac while maintaining a certain speed and logging that info in your head! We are dealing with people who think the vacuum advance just needs plugged. These people are missing the point anyway! Keep up the good work! I support you, brother!
I think it’s cool as hell what you’re doing, I’ve never had a carbureted car, but I understand the struggle, and fully support what you’re doing brother keep pushing 🤘
Luke, you are AWESOME! I'm 62 yrs. old and I love my carburated engines and would love to get one of your carb cheaters for my '84 Dodge truck, but I'm so old school that I don't have a smart phone...I still carry a flip phone...maybe one day. Keep up the good work.
I sent your video on the carb cheater to my Ford buddy, who’s newest vehicle is a ‘78 Bronco. He really loved the idea and is thinking about getting one for his’77 LTD to try it out. Despite any negatives you may be receiving, this is a great product. 👍
Don’t worry about the haters. Most of it is jealousy, I’m sure. It’s a great, economical way to improve your carburetor experience. Always look forward to your videos and you’ve helped me tremendously over the last few years on dialing in my Holley.
This is great I've got the 440 dodge Mopar big block in my RV tuned pretty close I will absolutely buy and install a carb cheater to help increase my efficiency even more for when I'm traveling highway. Will also be running methanol injection it increase efficiency even more.
I love this idea! I'm young and new to the hobby and don't have a clue what I'm doing. I've learned everything I know from family, old gear heads, and RUclips. I just bought one of these and I'm super excited to try it out on my carb. I can't believe how close I was to buying fuel injection nonsense until I stumbled upon your channel. I hope this catches on because it's super slick!
Uncle Luke, First off love the informative content. Ill be the first one to say I hardly know what there is to know about Carbs. What i do know is with mine its a delicate process and alot of factors come into play. As mentioned in my last comment on your last carb cheater video your kickin a** an takin names. With that much (99%) of what I know is from you and your videos. Im extremely grateful for. Your someone I admire a and strive to be (in my own way) but your admiration and ability to do what you do is amazing. Dont let those keyboard warriors get under your skin or the ones thst dont believe in what your doing. You have created a HUGE game changer which I am proud of you for. If I could I'd nominate you for the automotive noble award if there was such a thing. I dont want to see those people ruin a great person in this community and the things your doing for our community. Keep doing what you do and hold your head high my friend. Thank you for all you do. OG thunderhead289 fan for atleast 8-9 years
Can you go over all of the non stock items in the interior of the Maverick? I like the screwdriver holding the gate latch closed on the glovebox, and the bungee cord on the visor, mostly because that’s how my cars end up being. Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix that works.
@@ThunderHead289 i converted my El Camino to hydraulic clutch, so I’ve got a master cylinder from a 93 camaro, with a custom made pushrod, bolted with a sandwich plate to the original pedal arm. It’s ghetto as heck, but works like a charm. I’d love to see yours lol.
I think it's great! I'm with you. Carburetors for life! Too many people are afraid to think outside the box or to even take a chance on something being better than what's out there. Great video. Your world's tallest intake video was amazing as well. Just goes to show there's always something to experiment with and be totally surprised by the results.
As soon as you guys make a cheater for a Motocraft carb that is attached to an AMC I-6 258 lm getting one. I’m over 50 yrs old and bought an old Jeep with a carb so I could learn about tuning. I think you bringing this to market is a great idea.
I like your idea and giving it to everyone at cost is great. You guys should make a lil something on it. The efi guys will be lawyering up, looking to stop this. Great idea.
I’m excited for CC, got my order in. Can’t wait to see how it works on my Stroker high hp BB Mopar. Also want to try it with a six pack as well. I’m 29 and getting into tuning carbs, glad I didn’t go Efi. Can’t wait, keep up the good work Luke.
Ok, I've got to say this. Luke, you are way to nice a guy. I'm a 60+ year old cranky millwright, so take this from where it is coming. 85% of these internet genius's don't know whether their ass is punch, bored or drilled. I've listened to men of all trades, all my adult life. Some of which all I can only wonder, how many times they have been dropped as a child. Older men should know better, and I'm talking about well known RUclips "stars". We all know who those are. Personally, I'm into efficiency. That was my forte as a maintenance mechanic. One thing I have learned, and that I have suspected all my life but grown to know in the past few years, is that most all science is at best skewed and at worst corrupt. I don't know how the stoichiometric ratio in automobiles was determined, or under what context, but if anyone believes this they probably believe in Santa Claus. I think it was put in place as a limiting factor for...(fill in the blank). That lawnmower carb, that you had on your earlier videos, works excellent on a 351 modified in a 4x4 f150. Thanks for the info and having the guts to try it. It gave me a little push. This is a message to all men. Shut up, listen and learn. If you don't, eventually you will end up looking stupid. And that is just embarrassing.
@@track1219 You do know that those Penthouse letters aren't real either, do you? Really?? You think everything that is written is true? Are you freak'n brand new? I can only hope you are a 12 year old troll and don't know any better.
I am 48 years old and I have messed around with a lot of carbs and I am glad to see that you took the time and effort to improve the quality of the carburetor I like carbs you get that quick snap and quick drop when you rev the engine with fuel injection when you rev and let off the rpms hang for a few before they drop Great job I'm ordering 1 soon
I JUST TOLD EVERYONE. ITS LIKE THIS YOU ADJUST YOUR FUEL SCREWS IN THE MORNING THEB WHEN ENGINE IS HOT IN TRAFFIC AT 12:00 NOON YOU HAVE TO TURN THE FUEL SCREWS DOWN. THEN TURN THEM BACK UP IN TBE EVENING WHEN YOU GET OFF WORK AGAIN. YOUR PRODUCT DOES ALLLLL THAT FOR YOU BY ADDING MORE AIR WHEN ITS GETTING TO MUCH FUEL WHEN THE ENGINE IS HOT IN TRAFFIC. I THINK ITS REALLY REALLLYYY. BRILLIANT AND I LOVE YOU AND CARB CHEATER
I love what you've come up with and the work you've put into it. The smartphone/live integration reminds me of an app for EFI BMWs that's really awesome called MHD that you should check out if you're not familiar with it's features, that one is SO easy to use and makes adding HP so easy and live datalogging w/ a web hosted CSV to go back and analyze runs and diagnose other issues. I've always been an EFI guy, but I've been wanting to try a nice, simple carb setup on my next project and your technology put me over the edge no question about it. If you have a decent carb in decent shape, this will help make it so much less of a mystery and take so much annoyance out of getting everything running right.
Can't wait to have this in my hands. It makes a lot of sense and brings tons of benefits with reasonable money. Knowing this was coming available, I sold my Holley Sniper setup before I ever installed it. Back in carb and this time for good 👍
Unfortunately I am not surprised that you are catching negative feedback. I have followed along this whole project watching each video and within the first few minutes of your into of CC my thoughts were, wow someone actually did it and had the basic principle of what you verified in this video. It's great that you are deomonstrating what it can and SHOULD be intended to be used for...and to me, its a brilliant product for people who actually want to daily drive, or be able to comfortably drive a carbureted car safely and easily into varying temps & air density, and get a cleaner exhaust and better mpg while doing so. I have some potential ideas for further testing this in other applications...like on my 83 Rabbit GTI that I have running on Weber DCOE45's, and maybe even old motorcycles (I own a few 70's sohc4 honda CB's) which could potentially bring you to a bigger audience that may work well in other applications. Keep doing what you are doing, I think this is a much needed support product to improve carb application for regular use and may take some time to catch on. I know there are many others like me who truly appreciate the engineering and thought that went into it.
SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON, FOLKS! Luke, don't let these armchair mechanics steal your joy and sense of accomplishment for your awesome invention. Some folks just get more crotchety the older they get! I truly think in some of their minds they don't want other people to learn how to do technical things because they somehow feel less important and needed in general?? You keep being you. THAT is why we are here! I am excited about this product and have been a gearhead for over 40 years! Keep up the good work!
Luke - I have spent more than two years plating around with EFI being controlled with a Speeduino controller that I built and programmed myself. I enjoyed that process and learned a lot through it. When I heard of the Carb Cheater it made an instant connection with me as while the EFI was a fun exercise I really do like the simplicity of a carb and to my mind the CC offers the best of both worlds - well done Luke.
Thanks so much - that's where I was at, I wanted the simplicity and robustness of a carb, but some of the adaptability of fuel injection. I also wanted to couple that with the ability to see what's going on and informed tuning decisions based on data instead of playing educated guess
The big three had this tech years back. I'm from California. Grew up with a 85 Bullnose, 300 six. I remember in 1988 when carbs where dead for production cars . remember when your local collage would teach carb tech. Yes I'm that old. Love how you made it adaptable to the old carb cars. Good luck. I hope you sell the hell out of this !
Long ago, Hot Rod magazine ran an article on carburetors. They rated the prowess of carburetor tuning from average enthusiasts all the way up to Pro Stock. When Pro Stock was running dual carburetors. The average person with just a modest set of tools would be to tune a carburetor merely by seat of the pants. The Pro Stock folks, they referred to them as Wizards. I believe your invention takes all the wizardry out of carburetors for the average enthusiasts. Folks don't have to spend thousands on EFI that they truly are not going to exploit to its fullest.
You are a genius for coming up with this. Don't let some other company (China) steal your idea, before you know it, ebay will be flooded with it. Great freekin job dudes! I wish i needed one, or maybe pull the factory FI off & buy a Holley 😅
I like the idea. I too really only concern myself with altitude when adjusting my carb, as I live at 5000’ plus, but regularly mosey on down to sea level, but my issue was the opposite of yours running rich in the mts., as I would lean out. Initially I fattened up my mixture so I didn’t worry about heading to the lowlands, then I considered buying a carb plate, that ADDS fuel. Ultimately I bought a second carb. So now I run a summit 500 jetted for my home in the mountains and a summit 600 jetted for the valley/beach. The swap takes 5 minutes
I am very impressed Luke from what I've seen. I do understand carburetors quite well and what you have basically done was made an adapter to make to make a carburetor function very similar to what the predator carburetor back in the 60s and 70s did..... It used vacuum control and air flow to control fuel and air inlet mixture...... Which ensured the af mixture.
No idea who would be against this kid. He young bright and excited about old school shit. He’s adding another tool of endless tools in our tool box. Keep it up Luke, you’re doing fine.
Luke I am also an older gearhead as several others have mentioned here. I'm a decent carb tuner but not as good as this thing is. The difference between us is that you have a huge technology advantage vs when we were your age. I'm thrilled that someone like you has the desire and expertise to design and build a product like this that will greatly improve the carburetor experience for many people of all ages and experience. This product is a winner and so are you. Ignore the criticism unless it is constructive and beneficial to your Carb Cheater device. Keep up the great work! Cheers from Canada.
@@ThunderHead289 Stay focused on what you are doing and good things will happen. Regarding the skeptics: "Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. Most fools do".......famous words from Dale Carnegie
I’m going to give this a go. Really digging this concept! I can see the potential! Done the variable valve to eak out some extra mpg in the long flat runs on a big block. This is a game charger. I work in the IT world myself and relish my analog time with my vehicles. This is innovative!
Thanks. I started watching a while ago and I’m sure a fan of what you do. I don’t know why people give you grief over the carb cheater. Perhaps they don’t understand it. I started tuning carbs on dirt bikes about 1980 myself. My neighbor owned a bike shop and taught me lots about it. I’d like to think I’m half decent at it myself by now. The problem is that it just can’t be done perfectly no matter how good you are. If it could, no one would show up to a race with a box of jets, springs, air bleeds, and screwdrivers. The best you can do is find a compromise and live with it. Probably my situation is tougher than most. I live in southern AZ. Just to drive to town I go through almost a 3000 foot elevation change. It’s totally not uncommon for the temperature in one day of driving to range from 60 to 115. I’d love an expert to explain how to make the tune perfect for all that. It took me about 3 seconds when I first saw your product to realize how cool it was when you said it’s basically an IAC for a carb. I was like how genius is that? The cost of gas and parts these days makes me think this unit will pay for itself pretty quickly, especially for people that live in extreme situations. Don’t let people who don’t understand get to you. Maybe they live somewhere flat without weather. I don’t know. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
I really appreciate comments like this because I can see that you are the type of person who understands this. Folks like to think of carb tuning and conditions as a 1 or a 0 scenario, but it's so much more dynamic than people realize. The compromises, oh the compromises ... carb Cheater was designed after I ran a wideband and saw that there was no way to perfectly tune around the variability. Does that make carbs bad? No - they make up for it on other fronts. But CC is a bid to "have our cake and eat it too"
@@ThunderHead289 the carb cheater is the best version of fuel injected technology for a carbureted situation I’ve seen. No one wants to run rich but no one wants to run lean more. I know the program thinks faster than me. Proud but realistic.
Running a lean mixture during cruise conditions is not hard on the engine. The rule "Lean is Mean" only applies when the engine is under heavy load and/or wide open throttle. That's why carbs have some type of enrichment (power valve or vacuum controlled metering rods) to provide extra fuel while the engine is under load.
I do not know what is the motivation of the nay-sayers, but that is neither my problem nor yours. You have come up with a simple, fool-proof-as-possible, response to the problem of how to make a statically functioning carburetor responsive to the dynamics of changing use in an everyday environment. Genius is the ability to see what is right in front of us that others cannot. You saw a way, and more importantly, you found a way to make it work for anyone with a drill, a screwdriver, a set of wrenches and a cell phone. Pretty cool. Keep it up, young dude, we got your back.
Congrats on project! I hope you make a ton of money… tuning (to me) was difficult, always had old / affordable cars.. lots of “worn out parts”.. if it ran, got me to work I was happy. Your bringing carb “tuning”efficiency/ reliability to a much easier realm.. a good constant AFR makes a “healthy” motor.. you should call it a “pacemaker”.. your giving older motors an extended life..
I don't know why anybody would give you grief about it, there are tons of aftermarket parts for old cars to make them a little easier to work with and more reliable. On that note, how soon will they be shipping? I pre-ordered mine for a Q-jet as soon as you dropped the first instruction video.
Screw the haters and ignore them. You made something awesome and you should be proud of that. Your videos have been instrumental in my educational experience as a hobbyist. Thank you for all that you do.
I personally think that CC is genius. Not sure how someone didnt come up with this before. Ive tried explaining CC to some friends and they dont really believe in it mainly because 1. Its "a computer" and 2. They say that its not changing the timing or changing the fuel mixture screws to give the ability to basically have horsepower on demand. CC is simply a helpful tool to make carb tuning a little easier. Its not an like an LS engine where everything is fully computer controlled.
Technically it is a computer..so they aren't completely wrong lol Tell them that if your carb has a vacuum leak(say on intake) it will also change fuel ratio to be very lean, and now tell them that CC is a controlled intake leak..simple enough
I think it’s important for you to understand that most people that make negative comments about some thing so great that you’ve done is that they don’t really understand the details or the complexity behind the dynamic environment. You’re a computer guy and have attention to detail and understand the complexities behind those details, and I think the people you’re probably getting flack from are those people who believe in tuning by ear and feel. I like you a muzzle computer person and believe everything needs to be measured and analyzed to affect change so with that congratulations I think what you’ve done is outstanding so please do not stop doing what you’re doing.
I have never had any problems tuning a carb, and have no idea why people would have, because they are really simple machines. That said, I really like this whole thing you have done because it really helps fine tune to a whole new level.
this project reminds me of programmers. we often have issue with software from companies/others, so we write our own wrapper or version of it to suit our needs and sometimes give it to the community to use as well for anyone who prefers your approach over what is already there.
Good morning Luke 🌞 been working on cars since 1980, yes I'm a dinosaur and I don't like fuel-injected computer-controlled undependable vehicles. Your idea is brilliant. Keep up the great and innovative work 👍✌️🇺🇲
Been following you along time. Love your take on ideas that are off the wall. What I am wondering is with such control over the AFR what does this do for fuel consumption? Has there been any fuel mileage tests done on with and without the carb cheater?
Love the idea of Carb Cheater. I also like that it's basically "disaster proof", unlike an EFI system. If it goes kaput you still have a regular carburetor.
I’m 100% gonna pre order when I get a couple of decent paydays in. A decent wideband gauge kit is like £200 anyway, so a couple of tanks of fuel more to get datalogging and see where the jetting is at, AND active fuelling correction is amazing.
Luke, I’ve tuned both my carbureted mild hot rod cars with a wideband sensor and an A/F gauge. It worked wonders on both of them for getting the tune remarkably good, but I never went the extra step to set it up for true data logging (just took notes at different drive conditions with a clipboard and adjusted from there. Got an order placed for one of your CCs, I’m really looking forward to (1) having the data logger function to better see what happens in the transitions and (2) I’m hopeful that the feedback control can help me break the idle / accel pump / steady state compromise on one of the cars which is a challenge to tune (draw-through Roots blower, old B&M supercharger setup). Keep up the cool videos and amazing work!
@@Jonathan_Doe_ I'm guessing probably not - but I've tended to take most of my vacuum signals from below the carb but above the blower (everything but manifold vacuum/pressure for ignition timing, that is). I would put the CC air bleed above the blower, to start with...
My solution to my high compression engine was a high torque starter. Made a big difference and saved me some grey hairs worrying about getting started.
This is amazing, I just preordered mine. In a way the device is adjusting the "holes in your fuel map" but for carbs! Carbs only have so much tunability on the fly. I try to picture this in my head kind of like the difference between a reimann sum and an integral on a curve.
Should be out in a month 🙂 we have to say pre-order because of shopify rules, but we're shipped out up to order number 1650 or so of the 1873 orders. We're catching up slowly but surely
Old guy checking in. I've been there for feedback carbs, variable venturies, lean burns, the introduction of EGR and a bunch more silly things Detroit did to appease the federal government. Seen all the magnets, gas swirlers, air swirlers, pressure regulators, and mystical devices that didn't work. This doo-dad appears to be based in logic, I may try one some day. I have a daily driven 350 Chevy that will occasionally be bracket raced. If I were to tune the car for strip performance, would this allow me to lean it out for highway trips and better MPG? Looks like it would. Next I'd like to see a Pingy Thingy. A knock sensor hooked to a timing control.
I enjoyed your video and i glad you said you was a manual guy i been driving manual cars and trucks for 55 years my truck and Mustang GT are both manuals
Hey this is like another amazing tool in the toolbox and it helps ease the tuning and take the guess work and headaches of tuning. Also less likely to burn valves and too rich tp foul plugs❤
What i like about this system is that it’s basically the same price as a high end Wideband gauge and sensor. But it has the ability to autotune or you can set it on manual if you wanna practice tuning it yourself. Sometimes when the weather changes I don’t have time to be adjusting my carburetor on my k5 blazer i just run it and go even if it’s running a little rich. But with this system it seems like you can just set to auto tune and it’ll correct the air fuel ratio for you. This is huge especially if you’re a off road enthusiast or live in higher elevation. Not to mention if the system ever fails you can still drive your vehicle home. Also did I mention that its basically the same price as a high end Wideband gauge 😂. If you’re planning to install a Wideband gauge you’re probably better off getting this unit.
Thank you and Joe for the work you've done with this. One of the things efi brought to cars was more consistency in fuel delivery and O am thinking Carb Cheater will have similar benefits plus putting data into our individual hands and heads. As a data scientist myself, data is king and with the feedback from Carb Cheater we can tune our carbs to provide the best performance, reliability and economy.
It never ceases to amaze me how some people will come up with a way to complain about any new product, no matter how much it may be able to improve a person's state. A vocal minority. Stupefying.
The intent of Carb Cheater is to make the tuning experience much more enjoyable, to mitigate all the annoying guess work which always puts a negative spin on Carbs. I hated it for years, but loved classic cars - I tried to make the thing I always with I had when I was learning, plus its just handy to have anyway. It was something I wanted myself, and to this point it had never existed.
Can’t wait to buy one soon keep up the good work and you might not have to work for someone else
@@fifthlomat717we don't make any money on carb cheater, but im also one of those weird people that loves going to work. I don't feel like I accomplished anything otherwise and it's always a good challenge at my current place. 🙂
So when is the dual carb version that has control of the mixture screws coming out ;)
it sounds to me like you have funny words. you never mention the actually mixing of fuel and other than it's dynamic air bleed/leak. so in that case it sounds like it might be best to adjust the carb slightly rich since the cheat can't actually add fuel to the intake runners but, it can add more air! EDIT: unless the metering blocks add fuel based on vacuum.
This devise was a great idea, but the supposed carb tuners and carb makers might hate it. Think about how it might cut into their little scams and bucks they lose, if the devise fixes peoples tunes or does so mostly on their carbs.
Oldskool carb guy here...whoever gives this guy flack over this needs a reality check. We need guys like this on our side, he's sharp as a tack, and has an inventive brain, hell ya...nobody should be giving him flack for simply trying to invent something that helps our cause. Kudos to you man...keep making stuff.
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Absolutely!
There all just jealous.
@@lordsauto oh yeah. They pissed that they have no idea on how to produce this kind of product.
I believe that the AFR is as steady as it is displayed on his phone. It makes since because it is a static leak, only adjusting what comes out of the carburetor which is doing the leg work well enough on it's own. I could only imagine carb tuning was absolutely essential before EFI was standard, and that EFI actually sucks for efficiency, because controlling the smaller volume positively is ridiculous, and also because volumetric efficiency is not efficient at all, because expansion volume is greater than the intake, so VE will make an engine more power dense, but less efficient, the only way to get greater efficiency that way is if the power to weight ratio was much higher, in which case 2 strokes would be more efficient.
It’s a marvel of engineering that will save our classics for generations to come!
Thank you Luke!
Please patent this!
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Bit of an overstatement 😂😂😂
@@AndyL940 yeah but he’s one smart kid! 😄
So Luke, I have not read all the comments, but I am one of the older guys... 63 to be exact. I grew up with hot rods in the 60's and 70's along with a lot of drag racing. I have seen so many people that did not understand how to setup their car, or for that matter know how to size or tune a carb! This device, the CC, is just the tool to help with getting the carb set correctly. I am not sure why that is not understood. They need to take Derek "VGG" advice, "I got to believe it, because it's right there in front of me"! BTW - I am a software/program guy in the aerospace industry. I for one am really interested to be able to analyze data from the CC. Looking forward to getting my CC in the next round. Thanks again to you and Joe.
I love it, it give the user to see what is going on with their vehicle with out having to go and buy $1000 worth of EFI stuff... This is something we needed.
With EFI you would be spending over $1000 just to make your car more complicated, and less reliable as well.
With the CC if it breaks down, you just don't care and run the car like a normal carburetor. Simplicity is what we like!
@@estonianperson1112this thing doesn't add fuel u need a closely tuned carb, so if u can't tune its for u it will help a little
@@alltherpm yes, and this is why I do want it sometime soon
The fact it's an entirely passive system in the case of failure is really what sold me. Carbs are my jam for the sake of simplicity and the right to repair. I don't like black box devices that will leave me stranded, so when I saw Luke actually selling this kit he's talked about for a while now; I just bout lost my mind. Proudly on the wait list for the beta tester units! 😊👍
Uncle Luke you are doing the Lords work for the young lads of today. Carbs, manual trans, old cars kept on the road all these things are TRUE Environmentalism Keep up the good work
"Don't wanna get passed by a Volkswagen..." 😂😂😂
You win the internet for today!
All i have ever wanted (im 48) is to be able to trim my carb's just that extra little bit that the CC brings. Thanks for taking the time with your knowledge and making this happen.
I pre-ordered a Carb Cheater because I like to know where I'm at with my carb tuning. I think I have it tuned pretty well by ear but with out a wide band, which I was going to buy before you developed the Carb Cheater, I didn't really know for certain. The automatic vacuum tuning was the cherry on top. Thank you for inventing the Carb Cheater and for your informative videos.
Sir, was it you that did the video and explained it’s like a controlled vacuum leak? If so, that’s what sold me. Let me understand what in the hell is going on and how it works sold me.
Be proud of what you've made, bro. I plan one purchasing one soon. I love the idea that it gives you some flexibility like EFI, but if it goes bad, you're not stuck like you would be if an ECM goes nuts. I've always wanted to learn more about carbs and plan on picking up a classic soon to enjoy. I love the self sufficiency of being able to maintain your vehicle without the need of thousands of dollars in scanning equip. The fact you still have to know how to get your carb right, even with the carb cheater, for everything to work is great. Just takes the weakness of changes in variables that carbs inherently have. Thanks for following through with this project. Been follow8ng for a while.
Luke: "I like to party"
(Rips Carb Cheater outta the car and chucks it in the front yard) 🤣
You and your partner created an amazing device, someone like me who doesn't have the experience of veteran mechanics truly appreciate your efforts. I can't wait til I can save up the money and buy one for my 67 mustang convertible, don't let anyone put down what you created!
I’m 55, been watching your videos for alongtime. When i saw the carb cheater and realized what it is, i got excited about the possibility it represents. I’ve always felt carbs are a compromise in a daily driver application. If you set your carb to perform it’s absolute best at w.o.t. It may not perform as well at lower rpm’s or midrange…if you find the perfect cruise setting, w.o.t. Might not be as good….not saying it would be bad, i just think for a carb to be good all around, you have to compromise a bit. I think carb cheater can help get us closer to a really good tune with less compromise. Therefore, i like it. I’ve been talking to my friends about it, so far only a couple like the concept as much as me. I can’t explain that. What’s not to like? Thanks for your effort!
You have it exactly figured out. Personally I want folks to tune for a good hard throttle and leave the rest largely to cc
@@ThunderHead289 man i got a kick out of the comment you made about the technology difference in the old feedback carbs and the technology in carb cheater. I can’t tell you how many feedback carbs and electronic spark control distributors i removed in the late 80’s early 90’s. The technology just wasn’t there back then. And for sure….in the 80’s it would have taken a building full of computers to amount to the electronics of the carb cheater and the phone interface. That’s where respect comes into play. I’ve been tuning carbs of all kinds sense i was very young. But when it comes to utilizing the technology that you have used make our old friend the carburetor easier to work with and function better, i’m not knowledgeable enough to get it done. But i think i can figure out hooking it up and using it! Lol
@@ThunderHead289you designed the world's coolest vacuum leak
Great video, the fact that the carb cheater can be removed or fail entirely and the car will still run on the old-fashioned carburetor is why I find this so much more enticing than an EFI swap. The best parts of the reliability of an all-mechanical carb and the superior control of modern computers. Keep it up man, grumpy old boomers are gonna be grumpy no matter what you do....
Thank you so much, looking forward to purchasing one of your carb cheaters soon I've been Following you for quite a while I've been building cars almost my entire life. All cooperated, and I've learned more from you over the years than anything I've ever read.
Carbureted I hate spell check
Well done, feel your pain, please don't get down, I personally love this idea, it's tough trying to teach old dogs new tricks. 👍
Hey Luke! I always appreciate your no nonsense approach to these old rigs. Keep up the great work. I hope to get our of these for my 76 F150 shortly.
Keep up the great work Luke! This is my FAVORITE RUclips channel! Pre-ordered my Carb Cheater and can’t wait for it to arrive. I’ve dialed in my dual Dellorto carbs for idle and WOT, but the progression circuit and transition to the main jets for efficient cruise has been tricky. The Carb Cheater’s “dynamic vacuum leak” will get me that last little bit of fine tuning and auto adjustment I’ve been searching for. THANK YOU!!! I’ve shared your videos with all me friends and can’t wait for them to test drive my car with the Carb Cheater installed. The data logging is worth it’s weight in gold.
Theres always gonna be critics, This is an amazing piece of hardware that alowes you to do so much for just a couple hundred dollars.
Thanks Luke, you answered a lot of my questions. I'm retired and now build old mustangs, sometimes these old carburetors can be very tricky. You have come up with the perfect solution. Been checking reviews of people who have tried your product, and those who have tried Carb Cheater have given you a high approval ratings. I'm almost sold! Love your channel.
I'm a Mopar guy, but really enjoy your channel. This carb cheater is pure genius. Don't listen to the naysayers.
Keep up the good work! This will help hot rodding with out a doubt. In its truest form innovation is what the hobby / lifestyle is all about. This whole thing stared when the lads came home from the war and slapped a V8 in a Model A. There were a few raised eyebrows back then too.
Im 42 years old, I just got into muscle car building a few years ago (software engineer by day). I have struggled a bit with carb tuning, so I think a product like this is brilliant! I especially like being able to tune to different parameters on the fly, makes the process of experimenting or dialing in the car much more efficient, and probably more accurate too! Don't let the old dinosaurs discourage you. You have a brilliant product here that will help many people, allowing the hobbyist mechanic to do more for themself (like me!!). Think I'm going to get one of these to see if it can help me out with my '83 camaro with a street demon carb that I have managed to get close but not perfect. Thanks for all that you do!
Luke to hell with them, you're doing a great job. I just ordered one of your kits, not because I don't know how to tune but more so as a tool. I was get ready to buy an afr gauge kit, and after watching what you have done with carb cheater, this just made more sense. With carb cheater and its data logging alone, I will be able to fine-tune my advance curve and vacuum pot so much easier! It's hard for one guy to drive down the road and pay attention to a vac gauge while operating a mighty vac while maintaining a certain speed and logging that info in your head! We are dealing with people who think the vacuum advance just needs plugged. These people are missing the point anyway! Keep up the good work! I support you, brother!
I think it’s cool as hell what you’re doing, I’ve never had a carbureted car, but I understand the struggle, and fully support what you’re doing brother keep pushing 🤘
I am 51, been working on cars for 30+ years. I think this device seems fantastic. Good job, and God bless!
Luke, I am 130 years of age and I have been working on cars ever since they came out I cannot wait to see what you come up with next!
Luke, you are AWESOME! I'm 62 yrs. old and I love my carburated engines and would love to get one of your carb cheaters for my '84 Dodge truck, but I'm so old school that I don't have a smart phone...I still carry a flip phone...maybe one day. Keep up the good work.
I sent your video on the carb cheater to my Ford buddy, who’s newest vehicle is a ‘78 Bronco. He really loved the idea and is thinking about getting one for his’77 LTD to try it out. Despite any negatives you may be receiving, this is a great product. 👍
Don’t worry about the haters. Most of it is jealousy, I’m sure. It’s a great, economical way to improve your carburetor experience. Always look forward to your videos and you’ve helped me tremendously over the last few years on dialing in my Holley.
Luke, this is amazing concept and product. Congrats, what a game-changer!
This is great I've got the 440 dodge Mopar big block in my RV tuned pretty close I will absolutely buy and install a carb cheater to help increase my efficiency even more for when I'm traveling highway. Will also be running methanol injection it increase efficiency even more.
I would love to see the carb cheater set up with that custom lawnmower carb intake you had set up! Do it!
I love this idea! I'm young and new to the hobby and don't have a clue what I'm doing. I've learned everything I know from family, old gear heads, and RUclips. I just bought one of these and I'm super excited to try it out on my carb. I can't believe how close I was to buying fuel injection nonsense until I stumbled upon your channel. I hope this catches on because it's super slick!
Uncle Luke,
First off love the informative content. Ill be the first one to say I hardly know what there is to know about Carbs. What i do know is with mine its a delicate process and alot of factors come into play. As mentioned in my last comment on your last carb cheater video your kickin a** an takin names. With that much (99%) of what I know is from you and your videos. Im extremely grateful for. Your someone I admire a and strive to be (in my own way) but your admiration and ability to do what you do is amazing. Dont let those keyboard warriors get under your skin or the ones thst dont believe in what your doing. You have created a HUGE game changer which I am proud of you for. If I could I'd nominate you for the automotive noble award if there was such a thing. I dont want to see those people ruin a great person in this community and the things your doing for our community. Keep doing what you do and hold your head high my friend. Thank you for all you do.
OG thunderhead289 fan for atleast 8-9 years
Just wanted to say hope YT is paying out on this one, 7 commercials in 10 min i almost shut it down,
Keep up good work.
That's dumb. I'd I don't intensively place ads, I get the auto populate - usually in the dumbest spots
Can you go over all of the non stock items in the interior of the Maverick? I like the screwdriver holding the gate latch closed on the glovebox, and the bungee cord on the visor, mostly because that’s how my cars end up being. Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix that works.
You should see my clutch pedal and turn signal lever 😄
@@ThunderHead289 i converted my El Camino to hydraulic clutch, so I’ve got a master cylinder from a 93 camaro, with a custom made pushrod, bolted with a sandwich plate to the original pedal arm. It’s ghetto as heck, but works like a charm. I’d love to see yours lol.
I think it's great! I'm with you. Carburetors for life! Too many people are afraid to think outside the box or to even take a chance on something being better than what's out there. Great video.
Your world's tallest intake video was amazing as well. Just goes to show there's always something to experiment with and be totally surprised by the results.
absolutly amazing achievment with the cc ! you have definatly added some years to the life of carburation !
As soon as you guys make a cheater for a Motocraft carb that is attached to an AMC I-6 258 lm getting one. I’m over 50 yrs old and bought an old Jeep with a carb so I could learn about tuning. I think you bringing this to market is a great idea.
I like your idea and giving it to everyone at cost is great. You guys should make a lil something on it. The efi guys will be lawyering up, looking to stop this. Great idea.
I’m excited for CC, got my order in. Can’t wait to see how it works on my Stroker high hp BB Mopar. Also want to try it with a six pack as well. I’m 29 and getting into tuning carbs, glad I didn’t go Efi. Can’t wait, keep up the good work Luke.
Ok, I've got to say this. Luke, you are way to nice a guy. I'm a 60+ year old cranky millwright, so take this from where it is coming. 85% of these internet genius's don't know whether their ass is punch, bored or drilled. I've listened to men of all trades, all my adult life. Some of which all I can only wonder, how many times they have been dropped as a child. Older men should know better, and I'm talking about well known RUclips "stars". We all know who those are. Personally, I'm into efficiency. That was my forte as a maintenance mechanic. One thing I have learned, and that I have suspected all my life but grown to know in the past few years, is that most all science is at best skewed and at worst corrupt. I don't know how the stoichiometric ratio in automobiles was determined, or under what context, but if anyone believes this they probably believe in Santa Claus. I think it was put in place as a limiting factor for...(fill in the blank). That lawnmower carb, that you had on your earlier videos, works excellent on a 351 modified in a 4x4 f150. Thanks for the info and having the guts to try it. It gave me a little push. This is a message to all men. Shut up, listen and learn. If you don't, eventually you will end up looking stupid. And that is just embarrassing.
Read up on the stoichiometric ratio. It’s real, not Santa Claus.
@@track1219 You do know that those Penthouse letters aren't real either, do you? Really?? You think everything that is written is true? Are you freak'n brand new? I can only hope you are a 12 year old troll and don't know any better.
This comment was entertaining as heck 😂
I am 48 years old and I have messed around with a lot of carbs and I am glad to see that you took the time and effort to improve the quality of the carburetor I like carbs you get that quick snap and quick drop when you rev the engine with fuel injection when you rev and let off the rpms hang for a few before they drop
Great job I'm ordering 1 soon
I JUST TOLD EVERYONE.
ITS LIKE THIS
YOU ADJUST YOUR FUEL SCREWS IN THE MORNING THEB WHEN ENGINE IS HOT IN TRAFFIC AT 12:00 NOON YOU HAVE TO TURN THE FUEL SCREWS DOWN. THEN TURN THEM BACK UP IN TBE EVENING WHEN YOU GET OFF WORK AGAIN. YOUR PRODUCT DOES ALLLLL THAT FOR YOU BY ADDING MORE AIR WHEN ITS GETTING TO MUCH FUEL WHEN THE ENGINE IS HOT IN TRAFFIC. I THINK ITS
REALLY REALLLYYY. BRILLIANT AND I LOVE YOU AND CARB CHEATER
You have the concept absolutely nailed 👏
I think this is a great idea. It cleans the burn throughout the variables in operation. I dont understand why people give you criticism. Good job.
I love what you've come up with and the work you've put into it. The smartphone/live integration reminds me of an app for EFI BMWs that's really awesome called MHD that you should check out if you're not familiar with it's features, that one is SO easy to use and makes adding HP so easy and live datalogging w/ a web hosted CSV to go back and analyze runs and diagnose other issues. I've always been an EFI guy, but I've been wanting to try a nice, simple carb setup on my next project and your technology put me over the edge no question about it. If you have a decent carb in decent shape, this will help make it so much less of a mystery and take so much annoyance out of getting everything running right.
Your invention is AWESOME......the only reason some people are disagreeable is HUMAN NATURE.....
keep on going your own way and you will PROSPER 👍
The sheer amount of information it gives I feel is invaluable, especially for someone like me who is about to swap to a carburetor for the first time
Can't wait to have this in my hands. It makes a lot of sense and brings tons of benefits with reasonable money. Knowing this was coming available, I sold my Holley Sniper setup before I ever installed it. Back in carb and this time for good 👍
Just when you thought the Carb is at its maximum evolution..... This guy comes out with a neat thing for the gadget age....
well done sir...
Unfortunately I am not surprised that you are catching negative feedback. I have followed along this whole project watching each video and within the first few minutes of your into of CC my thoughts were, wow someone actually did it and had the basic principle of what you verified in this video. It's great that you are deomonstrating what it can and SHOULD be intended to be used for...and to me, its a brilliant product for people who actually want to daily drive, or be able to comfortably drive a carbureted car safely and easily into varying temps & air density, and get a cleaner exhaust and better mpg while doing so. I have some potential ideas for further testing this in other applications...like on my 83 Rabbit GTI that I have running on Weber DCOE45's, and maybe even old motorcycles (I own a few 70's sohc4 honda CB's) which could potentially bring you to a bigger audience that may work well in other applications. Keep doing what you are doing, I think this is a much needed support product to improve carb application for regular use and may take some time to catch on. I know there are many others like me who truly appreciate the engineering and thought that went into it.
SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON, FOLKS!
Luke, don't let these armchair mechanics steal your joy and sense of accomplishment for your awesome invention. Some folks just get more crotchety the older they get! I truly think in some of their minds they don't want other people to learn how to do technical things because they somehow feel less important and needed in general?? You keep being you. THAT is why we are here! I am excited about this product and have been a gearhead for over 40 years! Keep up the good work!
Thank God for your ingenuity. If this system does what you say, I will be ordering several units. I will be placing an order shortly. Thank you!
Luke - I have spent more than two years plating around with EFI being controlled with a Speeduino controller that I built and programmed myself. I enjoyed that process and learned a lot through it. When I heard of the Carb Cheater it made an instant connection with me as while the EFI was a fun exercise I really do like the simplicity of a carb and to my mind the CC offers the best of both worlds - well done Luke.
Thanks so much - that's where I was at, I wanted the simplicity and robustness of a carb, but some of the adaptability of fuel injection.
I also wanted to couple that with the ability to see what's going on and informed tuning decisions based on data instead of playing educated guess
@@ThunderHead289 Precisely!
The big three had this tech years back. I'm from California. Grew up with a 85 Bullnose, 300 six. I remember in 1988 when carbs where dead for production cars . remember when your local collage would teach carb tech. Yes I'm that old. Love how you made it adaptable to the old carb cars. Good luck. I hope you sell the hell out of this !
I really like the thought of this. I plan to buy this to better understand my carb and how my engine is running. Many thanks for your hard work
Long ago, Hot Rod magazine ran an article on carburetors. They rated the prowess of carburetor tuning from average enthusiasts all the way up to Pro Stock. When Pro Stock was running dual carburetors. The average person with just a modest set of tools would be to tune a carburetor merely by seat of the pants. The Pro Stock folks, they referred to them as Wizards. I believe your invention takes all the wizardry out of carburetors for the average enthusiasts. Folks don't have to spend thousands on EFI that they truly are not going to exploit to its fullest.
You are a genius for coming up with this. Don't let some other company (China) steal your idea, before you know it, ebay will be flooded with it. Great freekin job dudes! I wish i needed one, or maybe pull the factory FI off & buy a Holley 😅
I like the idea. I too really only concern myself with altitude when adjusting my carb, as I live at 5000’ plus, but regularly mosey on down to sea level, but my issue was the opposite of yours running rich in the mts., as I would lean out.
Initially I fattened up my mixture so I didn’t worry about heading to the lowlands, then I considered buying a carb plate, that ADDS fuel.
Ultimately I bought a second carb. So now I run a summit 500 jetted for my home in the mountains and a summit 600 jetted for the valley/beach. The swap takes 5 minutes
If you are going to run a carburetor and drive the car I think it is a great investment. There are only positive results.
I am very impressed Luke from what I've seen. I do understand carburetors quite well and what you have basically done was made an adapter to make to make a carburetor function very similar to what the predator carburetor back in the 60s and 70s did..... It used vacuum control and air flow to control fuel and air inlet mixture...... Which ensured the af mixture.
No idea who would be against this kid. He young bright and excited about old school shit. He’s adding another tool of endless tools in our tool box. Keep it up Luke, you’re doing fine.
Just ordered one. Thank you Luke and Joe for taking the time to make this!
Im with ya on this one!
I think this simple concept is ingenious 👌
Even made a video on it myself lol
Luke I am also an older gearhead as several others have mentioned here. I'm a decent carb tuner but not as good as this thing is. The difference between us is that you have a huge technology advantage vs when we were your age. I'm thrilled that someone like you has the desire and expertise to design and build a product like this that will greatly improve the carburetor experience for many people of all ages and experience. This product is a winner and so are you. Ignore the criticism unless it is constructive and beneficial to your Carb Cheater device. Keep up the great work!
Cheers from Canada.
Thanks so much, trying to not be distracted by the bs and keep my nose to the grindstone
@@ThunderHead289 Stay focused on what you are doing and good things will happen.
Regarding the skeptics:
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. Most fools do".......famous words from Dale Carnegie
I’m going to give this a go. Really digging this concept! I can see the potential! Done the variable valve to eak out some extra mpg in the long flat runs on a big block. This is a game charger. I work in the IT world myself and relish my analog time with my vehicles. This is innovative!
Great job on design and programming. If I ever have another car with a carburetor I will have to get one.
You are legit my idol dude. Lots of love and I excitement for the future!!!❤
Thanks. I started watching a while ago and I’m sure a fan of what you do. I don’t know why people give you grief over the carb cheater. Perhaps they don’t understand it. I started tuning carbs on dirt bikes about 1980 myself. My neighbor owned a bike shop and taught me lots about it. I’d like to think I’m half decent at it myself by now. The problem is that it just can’t be done perfectly no matter how good you are. If it could, no one would show up to a race with a box of jets, springs, air bleeds, and screwdrivers. The best you can do is find a compromise and live with it. Probably my situation is tougher than most. I live in southern AZ. Just to drive to town I go through almost a 3000 foot elevation change. It’s totally not uncommon for the temperature in one day of driving to range from 60 to 115. I’d love an expert to explain how to make the tune perfect for all that. It took me about 3 seconds when I first saw your product to realize how cool it was when you said it’s basically an IAC for a carb. I was like how genius is that? The cost of gas and parts these days makes me think this unit will pay for itself pretty quickly, especially for people that live in extreme situations. Don’t let people who don’t understand get to you. Maybe they live somewhere flat without weather. I don’t know. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
I really appreciate comments like this because I can see that you are the type of person who understands this.
Folks like to think of carb tuning and conditions as a 1 or a 0 scenario, but it's so much more dynamic than people realize. The compromises, oh the compromises ... carb Cheater was designed after I ran a wideband and saw that there was no way to perfectly tune around the variability. Does that make carbs bad? No - they make up for it on other fronts. But CC is a bid to "have our cake and eat it too"
@@ThunderHead289 the carb cheater is the best version of fuel injected technology for a carbureted situation I’ve seen. No one wants to run rich but no one wants to run lean more. I know the program thinks faster than me. Proud but realistic.
I for one think the carb cheater is unbelievable new tech for carburetors.. keep it up luke
Running a lean mixture during cruise conditions is not hard on the engine. The rule "Lean is Mean" only applies when the engine is under heavy load and/or wide open throttle. That's why carbs have some type of enrichment (power valve or vacuum controlled metering rods) to provide extra fuel while the engine is under load.
I mean, your preaching to the choir.
I do not know what is the motivation of the nay-sayers, but that is neither my problem nor yours. You have come up with a simple, fool-proof-as-possible, response to the problem of how to make a statically functioning carburetor responsive to the dynamics of changing use in an everyday environment. Genius is the ability to see what is right in front of us that others cannot. You saw a way, and more importantly, you found a way to make it work for anyone with a drill, a screwdriver, a set of wrenches and a cell phone. Pretty cool. Keep it up, young dude, we got your back.
Congrats on project! I hope you make a ton of money… tuning (to me) was difficult, always had old / affordable cars.. lots of “worn out parts”.. if it ran, got me to work I was happy. Your bringing carb “tuning”efficiency/ reliability to a much easier realm.. a good constant AFR makes a “healthy” motor.. you should call it a “pacemaker”.. your giving older motors an extended life..
I don't know why anybody would give you grief about it, there are tons of aftermarket parts for old cars to make them a little easier to work with and more reliable. On that note, how soon will they be shipping? I pre-ordered mine for a Q-jet as soon as you dropped the first instruction video.
Great way to end my Sunday a awesome uncle luke video
Screw the haters and ignore them. You made something awesome and you should be proud of that. Your videos have been instrumental in my educational experience as a hobbyist. Thank you for all that you do.
I personally think that CC is genius. Not sure how someone didnt come up with this before. Ive tried explaining CC to some friends and they dont really believe in it mainly because 1. Its "a computer" and 2. They say that its not changing the timing or changing the fuel mixture screws to give the ability to basically have horsepower on demand. CC is simply a helpful tool to make carb tuning a little easier. Its not an like an LS engine where everything is fully computer controlled.
Technically it is a computer..so they aren't completely wrong lol
Tell them that if your carb has a vacuum leak(say on intake) it will also change fuel ratio to be very lean, and now tell them that CC is a controlled intake leak..simple enough
I think it’s important for you to understand that most people that make negative comments about some thing so great that you’ve done is that they don’t really understand the details or the complexity behind the dynamic environment. You’re a computer guy and have attention to detail and understand the complexities behind those details, and I think the people you’re probably getting flack from are those people who believe in tuning by ear and feel. I like you a muzzle computer person and believe everything needs to be measured and analyzed to affect change so with that congratulations I think what you’ve done is outstanding so please do not stop doing what you’re doing.
Good video and surprised you’re getting any flak. I wouldn’t worry too much though, plenty of us ‘electronic’ ignition fans out here!
I have never had any problems tuning a carb, and have no idea why people would have, because they are really simple machines.
That said, I really like this whole thing you have done because it really helps fine tune to a whole new level.
this project reminds me of programmers. we often have issue with software from companies/others, so we write our own wrapper or version of it to suit our needs and sometimes give it to the community to use as well for anyone who prefers your approach over what is already there.
I'm 36 n driving a 73 460 can't wait to get one! This man is on it! ✊🤠👍💯
Good morning Luke 🌞 been working on cars since 1980, yes I'm a dinosaur and I don't like fuel-injected computer-controlled undependable vehicles. Your idea is brilliant. Keep up the great and innovative work 👍✌️🇺🇲
Been following you along time. Love your take on ideas that are off the wall. What I am wondering is with such control over the AFR what does this do for fuel consumption? Has there been any fuel mileage tests done on with and without the carb cheater?
Love the idea of Carb Cheater. I also like that it's basically "disaster proof", unlike an EFI system. If it goes kaput you still have a regular carburetor.
I’m 100% gonna pre order when I get a couple of decent paydays in. A decent wideband gauge kit is like £200 anyway, so a couple of tanks of fuel more to get datalogging and see where the jetting is at, AND active fuelling correction is amazing.
Luke, I’ve tuned both my carbureted mild hot rod cars with a wideband sensor and an A/F gauge. It worked wonders on both of them for getting the tune remarkably good, but I never went the extra step to set it up for true data logging (just took notes at different drive conditions with a clipboard and adjusted from there. Got an order placed for one of your CCs, I’m really looking forward to (1) having the data logger function to better see what happens in the transitions and (2) I’m hopeful that the feedback control can help me break the idle / accel pump / steady state compromise on one of the cars which is a challenge to tune (draw-through Roots blower, old B&M supercharger setup). Keep up the cool videos and amazing work!
That raises an interesting question, is the carb cheaters solenoid rated to handle boost on a blow through?
@@Jonathan_Doe_ I'm guessing probably not - but I've tended to take most of my vacuum signals from below the carb but above the blower (everything but manifold vacuum/pressure for ignition timing, that is). I would put the CC air bleed above the blower, to start with...
My solution to my high compression engine was a high torque starter. Made a big difference and saved me some grey hairs worrying about getting started.
This is amazing, I just preordered mine. In a way the device is adjusting the "holes in your fuel map" but for carbs! Carbs only have so much tunability on the fly. I try to picture this in my head kind of like the difference between a reimann sum and an integral on a curve.
Should be out in a month 🙂 we have to say pre-order because of shopify rules, but we're shipped out up to order number 1650 or so of the 1873 orders. We're catching up slowly but surely
Old guy checking in. I've been there for feedback carbs, variable venturies, lean burns, the introduction of EGR and a bunch more silly things Detroit did to appease the federal government. Seen all the magnets, gas swirlers, air swirlers, pressure regulators, and mystical devices that didn't work. This doo-dad appears to be based in logic, I may try one some day. I have a daily driven 350 Chevy that will occasionally be bracket raced. If I were to tune the car for strip performance, would this allow me to lean it out for highway trips and better MPG? Looks like it would.
Next I'd like to see a Pingy Thingy. A knock sensor hooked to a timing control.
I enjoyed your video and i glad you said you was a manual guy i been driving manual cars and trucks for 55 years my truck and Mustang GT are both manuals
I think you’ve come up with a great idea here. I’ll be getting a carb cheating in the coming months for sure
I am very interested in what y’all are doing. Frigging cool
Hey this is like another amazing tool in the toolbox and it helps ease the tuning and take the guess work and headaches of tuning. Also less likely to burn valves and too rich tp foul plugs❤
What i like about this system is that it’s basically the same price as a high end Wideband gauge and sensor. But it has the ability to autotune or you can set it on manual if you wanna practice tuning it yourself. Sometimes when the weather changes I don’t have time to be adjusting my carburetor on my k5 blazer i just run it and go even if it’s running a little rich. But with this system it seems like you can just set to auto tune and it’ll correct the air fuel ratio for you. This is huge especially if you’re a off road enthusiast or live in higher elevation. Not to mention if the system ever fails you can still drive your vehicle home. Also did I mention that its basically the same price as a high end Wideband gauge 😂. If you’re planning to install a Wideband gauge you’re probably better off getting this unit.
Great video and explanations Luke, thank you!
Thank you and Joe for the work you've done with this. One of the things efi brought to cars was more consistency in fuel delivery and O am thinking Carb Cheater will have similar benefits plus putting data into our individual hands and heads. As a data scientist myself, data is king and with the feedback from Carb Cheater we can tune our carbs to provide the best performance, reliability and economy.
It never ceases to amaze me how some people will come up with a way to complain about any new product, no matter how much it may be able to improve a person's state. A vocal minority. Stupefying.