Make a SELF-TUNING Holley/Edelbrock Carb! (Carb Cheater: Installation & Setup)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • learn more or buy a Carb Cheater kit at: thecarbcheater.com
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  • @ThunderHead289
    @ThunderHead289  Год назад +223

    Carb Cheater is now publicly available!
    This video is posted for those who own, or have ordered a Carb Cheater kit, and like me, you dont like reading instructions!
    to learn more about carb cheater, go to thecarbcheater.com or stay tuned!
    (Go to "store" on website to buy a kit)
    Currently no ios app, a cheap 50 dollar amazon tablet works just as good.
    Tailored to V8 or big 6's at the moment.
    big thanks to all the Beta Testers who participated and helped Joe & I bring carb cheater to the public :)

    • @estonianperson1112
      @estonianperson1112 Год назад +7

      Who reads instructions?!?!?!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +21

      ​@@estonianperson1112I can't even read

    • @estonianperson1112
      @estonianperson1112 Год назад +6

      @@ThunderHead289 Looks like we're about even then. I'm allergic to reading instructions!

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce Год назад +2

      Good thing you are a programmer.

    • @davidbisnette7673
      @davidbisnette7673 Год назад +4

      Do you make a kit that will work on a carter bbd

  • @kevinbialkowski3694
    @kevinbialkowski3694 Год назад +415

    Ive said it before, i really hope your patents and stuff are in line because all the big dogs in the industry are going to absolutely HATE this. Love what youre doing bud keep it up. Truly genius

    • @schwuzi
      @schwuzi Год назад

      Patents are useless when someone in China picks this up. You basically have to tell all your products secrets in a patent and the guy in China doesn't give a damn about stealing your intellectual property.

    • @Shadetreehack57
      @Shadetreehack57 Год назад +15

      Patents actually make stuff easier to steel. Since they could just change one thing and call it something else. If they don't have one the big companies would basically half to start from scratch. Also they would never steel it anyway since they pretty much want everyone to go efi.

    • @snake_eyes_garage
      @snake_eyes_garage Год назад +27

      Not to slag on Edelbrock and Holley but their products are about 10 years behind. So even though they do have EFI solutions they are not sophisticated. And this carb cheater isn't really something they'd be interested in anyways as the EFI systems force you to upgrade everything and are much more profitable. And this market is really small, so the risk of a knock off is fairly low but our Chinese friends can paper-engineer anything, so if they wanted to do it they could. Buy USA (or Australia, Canada, UK).

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger Год назад +19

      lmao. a pwm controlled vacuum leak beneath a carb jetted too rich IS NOT going to put any OEM on its ear. lmao.

    • @kevinbialkowski3694
      @kevinbialkowski3694 Год назад +9

      @@DieselRamcharger i mean i agree, but i still think its awesome to have an affordable way to stay carbed and be able to deal with the subtle changes in environment like barometric pressure, altitude, temperature, heat soak etc. Market is smaller but if i was going to do something like power tour, this would definitely be my option over a 2 or 3k dollar tbi system lol

  • @casselts1
    @casselts1 Год назад +13

    Getting ready to place my order- it’s an honor to be able to pay you back in a small way for all the knowledge you’ve given so many people. I can’t wait to install it on my daily Fairmont (302/T5 with a Summit M2008VS) that lives in the mountains and sees a 1,000 foot change in elevation with just my work commute! I’m sure I’ll be buying one for my Galaxie in the near future as well.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +5

      We both thank you very much and I hope cc serves you as well as it has served me 🙂

  • @odahithedubious2017
    @odahithedubious2017 Год назад +7

    I've been watching you and Kevin for quite a while. I really appreciate your videos and all the tech tips. I hope you make big piles of money from this, and I wish you and Joe all the best.

  • @scottsullivan1464
    @scottsullivan1464 Год назад +2

    "it is just a static metering device in a dynamic environment" Now all I can think about is Mongo is just a pawn in the game of life. Your product looks really interesting, I am glad you are sticking with this idea.

  • @sssrp80
    @sssrp80 Год назад +4

    You did it man!!!! I've been watching your videos for a lot of years and have always liked how you explained to people how engines tie and work. I have been around engines my whole life and am shocked at how well you explain things and also even back in the day just showing how a vacuum gauge helps tune and mpg. This is so cool to me that you have pu all this together. Technology has came along to the point of you capitalizing on it and making this work!!! Very cool man, very proud of what you have created!!!!

  • @victorthecarguy3126
    @victorthecarguy3126 Год назад +1

    You forgot to mention one other permutation on the carb studs. Sometimes they are JB welded in the stripped out aluminum manifold. Very interesting setup and another great video.

  • @oikkuoek
    @oikkuoek Год назад +8

    Suggestion for improvement: For the mid-plate, smoothen, bevel, trumpet or cone the holes on your 3D-model. This way you'll have solid indication which side of the plate needs to face down, and overall better flow and performance on your kit. For the already existing plates, you can mill the underside to resemble a cloverleaf pattern, just round the outside edges, if the middle seems too thin to round off. 5-10 hp more on top of the fuel savings is worth it. Just don't call it "the cloverleaf" to avoid any legal actions.

    • @pablotharpalo5685
      @pablotharpalo5685 Год назад +5

      "double bubble butt bevel" I think could work 😉

  • @LucoreAuto
    @LucoreAuto Год назад +2

    Installing ours this weekend so we can play with it next week! Looking forward to trying this little bit of dark wizardry out!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      It's treated me well, hope it does the same for you - almost have the majority of the content on it I want out there. Definitely not on the front end of it now 😅

  • @SteveWyatt
    @SteveWyatt Год назад +5

    Id love a break down of how this works. Because this looks like a really cool system.

    • @MrXyzasdf
      @MrXyzasdf Год назад

      Modern EFI regulates fuel delivery among other parameters to achieve a consistent and optimal operation curve. Carburetors have a static fuel curve. This device uses a wide band air fuel sensor as feedback with a idle speed regulator to control manifold vacuum, introducing more or less bypass air to achieve optimal operation.

  • @TheGlottis
    @TheGlottis Год назад

    Just installed a 4-hole spacer under my Holley, and now i have to change the gasket under it from a 4 hole to an open one. You always learn something from uncle Lukes videos.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      Better than sucking a peoce of gasket into a valve and bending it potentially 🙂

  • @G_Machine_Joe
    @G_Machine_Joe Год назад +3

    Thanks Luke! Looking forward to diving deeper into the app. The system worked great right out of the box for me but now I need to PLAY with it. 👍

  • @amadafaka
    @amadafaka Год назад +1

    I'm glad Luke decided to make this for purchase. I am not a fan of carburetors but definitely understand their is a need. Good luck.

  • @username-mk8gf
    @username-mk8gf 3 месяца назад +1

    After seeing him work on the prototype build, I thought it be really fun to make a rudimentary version. Obviously just amping the O2 sensor output into the valve soleniod isn't going to work, but it'd be interesting to see what that does and start from there, maybe then try adding, subtracting or compounding the O2 output with the MAP sensor output... Kind of like a CDI doesn't need to be perfect, it just generally needs to increase the timing with RPM. Some carbs may not need much correction, just to lean out at higher rpm or something

  • @travisfries8311
    @travisfries8311 Год назад +2

    Absolutely love the tech tips, helps with keeping the old iron running good and easier to maintain

  • @williamcharles9480
    @williamcharles9480 Год назад

    Wow! What a cool invention and a nice kit. It pleases me to no end to see an honest working guys come out on top for a change and hope you sell a million kits.

  • @PortHolio408
    @PortHolio408 Год назад +1

    Very interesting alternative to just jetting the carb correctly

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      Drive a carbed car in the morning and then home from work. Your afr will be different - strikingly.

    • @howardmosebar987
      @howardmosebar987 4 месяца назад

      He's got a blown power valve on his Holley. It's running full rich on him and he doesn't know it.

  • @vortecturbo
    @vortecturbo Год назад

    Keep up the great work man. I've been in this business 30 years I'm quite impressed and that says a lot. Follow your dreams

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад +1

    Me being old and was alive and rode around in the late 60's cars growing up, would have never believed you if you told me this 30 or 40 years ago.

    • @Milner62
      @Milner62 Год назад

      Should cause 40 years ago was the 1980s and auto manufacturers were using feedback carburetors that had sensors to monitor and adjust the carburetor on the go.
      It just wasn't that big of a jump so it was dropped in favor of true EFI.

  • @dalelockett2619
    @dalelockett2619 9 месяцев назад

    This is sick! The wave of the future for carbed engines..................👍

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Год назад

    Holley has all these engineers and still haven't come close to something this brilliant.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +3

      I dont think it's that brilliant, there's no money to be made in order to keep the price affordable so a big company won't do it. It's basically a public service at this price

    • @FJ40Jim
      @FJ40Jim Год назад

      Holley came out with an electronic AFR adjustment in the 1980s. It was called Dia-a-Jet and used a PWM mixture control solenoid like many OEM smog carbs. It was a slow seller because without a modern WB AFR guage it wasn't that useful.

    • @chrispompano
      @chrispompano Год назад +1

      I did a search, & a company called Thunder Products makes a device for power spots called Dial-a-Jet. It seems like doesn't use any elect feedback....... I'd like to read about that old Holley gizmo!

    • @robertwest3093
      @robertwest3093 Год назад

      I remember the Dial a Jet. Never saw one in action personally but the magazine write ups were always positive.

  • @jasoninpersonam3664
    @jasoninpersonam3664 Год назад

    Carburetor retrofit Idle air solenoid actuated off of wideband O2 sensor. I like it. Saves a little fuel economy at idle and maintains ideal idle characteristics.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      It also does quite a bit at cruising, especially low speed- which when I made it I didn't think would work out that way.

  • @nickboers5272
    @nickboers5272 Год назад

    I truly love your channel, inhave learnt so much from you. The way you explain things, making something potentially complicated simple and easy ro understand is an art. What you have done here with carb Cheater is amazing and fantastic, I want one. I will be e mailing you as your shipping doesn't include Canada. So I am hoping we can sort something out so I can get one as well. I live in Alberta not far from the mountains, and I own and operate a small landscaping business using a square body chevy truck as my daily work truck ( 1980 K20 ) I got the tune as good as i can as I got an afr a few years back after watching your vids about them. I maintain a good 14.7 however living where i do those temp changes amongst preasure changes mess with the tune all year long. I also plow snow with this truck, so Temps change 10 to 20 degrees over the day to night especially where I live when we get a Chinook. Anyway I had thought about getting efi but the guy said if i am diled in with myncarb as i am efi won't do much better. So seeing what you have made here will look after those changing variables that I deal with over the course of my day. Looking forward ro your response and thanks you for all the time and energy you have put into your channel and development of carb cheater.

  • @car_ventures
    @car_ventures Год назад +1

    This coupled with your buddies customisable distributor will lead to some sweet running vehicles

  • @WildcatWarrior15
    @WildcatWarrior15 Год назад

    Holy cow, as an engineer this is impressive! I've got a 302 powered boat that could use this right now!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      Would probably do well if you could find a place to plumb an o2 sensor!

  • @taylorclark3954
    @taylorclark3954 Год назад

    This has made my year, been keeping my eye on it and am super excited, wish my brain was as big as yours, will be ordering soon

  • @Captgreatvalue
    @Captgreatvalue 14 дней назад +1

    What you didn’t mention luke is the adjustment screws on the carb… do I just leave them the way they come out of the box from the new carb?

  • @Dark_Knight_USA
    @Dark_Knight_USA 6 месяцев назад

    Greetings: Suggestion- Do not connect on the battery terminals. Since U have a FoMoCo, U have a convenient high current connection point. Use the supply side of the start relay and mount . Just a thought. Thx 4 the share . Bsafe.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  6 месяцев назад

      Definitely should just go the battery, at least with the ground - the only issues we have are when people don't.
      If the ground connection is poor, the ignition will ground through the board to the wideband in the exhaust frying everything.
      It's why sniper efi and msd both say to go to the battery

  • @ThePr8head
    @ThePr8head Год назад

    Now I have to buy an old Jeep so I have something to put it on. AWESOME IDEA!!! LOVE IT!!!

  • @RobertDickens2002
    @RobertDickens2002 Год назад

    I knew you were gonna do great things when I seen the technology you designed in that mower carb video.

  • @SpocksBro
    @SpocksBro Год назад +1

    Probably a small target demographic but there seems to be no competition with a similar product out there yet. I hope you filed any possibly new patents and wish you much success!

  • @beauwood9770
    @beauwood9770 Год назад

    Excellent product demo video! You are an excellent technical salesman!

  • @Delm21
    @Delm21 Год назад

    Congrats Luke, what a great idea

  • @Screw_This
    @Screw_This Год назад

    Just purchased the kit. Get here already!

  • @RabeHighPerformance
    @RabeHighPerformance Год назад

    I get one for my 1986 Pontiac Grand Prix LE 396 sbc stroker with Edelbrock VRS 750 CFM carburetor.

  • @calvinevans8305
    @calvinevans8305 Год назад +1

    I like it when the blow through carb turbo people work with the fuel system to achieve enrichment under boost and still keep part throttle AFR where it needs to be. Carburetor Systems Unlimited are really good for boost sensitive fuel delivery.

  • @davidlobaugh4490
    @davidlobaugh4490 3 месяца назад

    I always toss a penny in my Intake when the carbs off, like a gearhead wishing well. 🤠

  • @joshuagies4900
    @joshuagies4900 Год назад

    Love the tech tips. Never mad to get more. Thanks, Luke!

  • @rodneybrand8521
    @rodneybrand8521 Год назад

    Hey Luke..is that a 65 galaxie fastback...one of the finest galaxies of them..i own one myself..my first car was a 65 galaxie..so i bought another..wish i would have a carb cheater back in the day..see you one the next one sooner i hope..Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @ercost60
    @ercost60 Год назад

    Amazing project! Good luck selling this. Very exciting!

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 Год назад

    3/8npt is close enough to M14 that pipe fittings can be re-tapped to allow oxygen sensors to bolt in…
    I have a street elbow in the O2 bung hole, then the O2 sensor in the elbow, on my daily driver. (I did that for the post-cat sensor & my check engine light turned off…
    That should be useful info for putting an O2 sensor on a car that doesn't have one.

    • @chrispompano
      @chrispompano Год назад

      Would a spark plug anti fouler work the same way, & drill it out larger? Then screw it into the exhaust pipe ?

    • @Iowa599
      @Iowa599 Год назад

      @@chrispompano yeah, it works, that's what a "street elbow" is. NPT, pipe thread, an elbow with male one one end & female on the other.

    • @Iowa599
      @Iowa599 Год назад

      *instead of drilling the defouler, I cut the protective grating off the sensor.

  • @miketanner1920
    @miketanner1920 Год назад

    Thank you brother for all your help
    Now that you've Concord the carburetor
    When can we expect your next unraveling
    Maybe the automatic transmission
    Please 😊😁😁😁😁😁👍✌🇨🇦
    Hope you have a fantastic day brother
    God bless
    Just saying

  • @merc6
    @merc6 Год назад

    This is a really cool product.

  • @Trz57816
    @Trz57816 Год назад

    I cannot wait for more videos with this product!! Falcon next?

  • @jeremyadkins8025
    @jeremyadkins8025 Год назад +1

    Just ordered one. Can't wait to check it out

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +2

      It's a ton of fun I think - I don't have enough time these days to play 20 question guess and check with a carb

    • @jeremyadkins8025
      @jeremyadkins8025 Год назад

      Just out of curiosity as I plan to just put it on a stock v8, but am curious how much horsepower do you think it would be able to efficiently tune? I understand there's not a lot of moving parts, but I have to assume the computer can only work so fast. BTW think its great what you are doing. Found a great gap in the market place to fill while helping people out.

    • @Milner62
      @Milner62 Год назад

      @@jeremyadkins8025, there is no HP limit on a system like this that falls to your carburetor.
      This is no different than how feedback carbs of the 1980s worked. Had sensors that monitored the engine and an IAC that would open and close creating a controlled vacuum leak to allow more or less air into the engine effectively adjusting AFR and idle speed.

    • @jeremyadkins8025
      @jeremyadkins8025 Год назад

      I get its only following the carb so the carb would handle majority of the load and carb cheater is just adjusting. I just assumed it could only adjust so fast under high rpm's with high HP

    • @toviyalovelightlife6180
      @toviyalovelightlife6180 Год назад

      We're are they sold?

  • @garageofscrap
    @garageofscrap Год назад

    Just an idea for marketing, but Matt from demolition ranch has just restored a Camaro with a carb, and I would say something like this would be absolutely up his street. I’d say he’d probably buy this even at full price to keep his car easy to drive, and it would really market this to a lot of people

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +2

      We have so many orders 😅 we never thought people would be this interested, was just a fun project originally

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake7915 Год назад

    Nice piece of work Luke.

  • @jeffsr8300
    @jeffsr8300 Год назад

    Absolute genius.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @fredred8371
    @fredred8371 Год назад

    I've never seen a strap on bung hole before (for an O2 sensor)

  • @coolestchannel4413
    @coolestchannel4413 8 месяцев назад

    Quick question once you set and forget how is it with cold start and multi-season?...running 1970 383 2 bbl holley... Dodge.

  • @Sir.AdamsVIII
    @Sir.AdamsVIII Год назад

    Please make a spacer for 2 barrel weber 32/36 with vacc tube

  • @1cumminsdiesel
    @1cumminsdiesel Год назад

    2/3 lit 🔥 and watching thunderhead I can approve! (Don’t judge my certificates) I will definitely invest in one I have a tendency to look into car pre fuel injected. (When the wife doesn’t know)

  • @harleyleeps6696
    @harleyleeps6696 Месяц назад

    I would have stayed with a carb if this had been out a few years ago! Work good with E85 carbs?

  • @mafosa8519
    @mafosa8519 10 месяцев назад

    Wouldn’t be surprised if you get bought out! Pretty fast!

  • @CommonBovine
    @CommonBovine 6 месяцев назад

    This is amazing!

  • @patrickherbert1018
    @patrickherbert1018 Год назад

    I love this product. Question I have will it work in a HP Street application? I have a Big block Chevy 402 CI engine with 11:1 compression high lift low vac producing cam. When I run a Holley 750 I have to run a 3.5 power valve. I'm currently running a Edelbrock 750 in which I virtually have no change in rpm when adjusting the idle air screws and I have no vacuum leaks anywhere. I have a bog when full throttle accelerating from about 2k rpm momentarily. Besides adjusting A/F ratio would this product help solve the bog issue. Congrats on a great innovative idea

  • @isaaccan3155
    @isaaccan3155 Год назад

    You say v8 and big 6’s. But do you think this could be adapted to a stroker vw bug flat 4cyl with twin dual carbs?

  • @giantpune
    @giantpune Год назад

    Cool deal. How does this work with HEI distributors?

  • @michaelclark7378
    @michaelclark7378 Год назад +1

    Are they currently available to order? The website says something about pre-order and a 2-3 month delivery time, is that right?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      Everyone blew us out of our stock so we have parts on order and being manufactured currently, probably be quicker than that honestly.

  • @poohssmartbrother1146
    @poohssmartbrother1146 Год назад

    I'm interested to see if this works better than old 80's and 90's early efi applications. When I slap a new 350 in the ole 2500 I think I'm gonna ditch the TBI and try this instead. Makes the intake and heads easier to get too

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      Gm had a great idea with feedback carbs but the tech of that day just wasn't there to really do it - just think of what a personal computer was like in the early 80s. Heck widebands didn't even exist till 95, the modern style not even till the late 00s really

  • @jameslong1644
    @jameslong1644 Год назад

    What kind of mpg improvements are we talking?

  • @danhoy8356
    @danhoy8356 Год назад

    This would be nice for my wife’s mustang. Single barrel…
    That way I’d know what needs adjusting so I can tune the carb correctly 😂

  • @YoshimoshiGarage
    @YoshimoshiGarage Год назад

    I'm going to buy the kit but, man, I'd really like to see it open sourced so I can extend it.

  • @TheMEXICANBEEF
    @TheMEXICANBEEF Год назад +1

    Have you tried this system with a larger cam engine?

  • @richardmoerke9329
    @richardmoerke9329 Год назад

    I have a question for you.? Could you put this on a stock car?? Cause I don’t think it’s going against any rules. You still have the same carb. It’s just going to keep you at good turns. Right or wrong? So how do I get this? How much? Does it work with a cam?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      No idea what it would look like racing - numerous features would be handy for racing like the datalog alone.
      Can buy one at thecarbcheater.com
      Could let us know how it goes - wasn't the original intended purpose, but it's worked out to be fairly versatile

  • @travislandsman
    @travislandsman Год назад

    good explaination

  • @FrankenVega
    @FrankenVega Год назад

    This sounds interesting but I'm curious how it works. Is it a vacuum control? Would you have any product soon for dual quads?

  • @GnarlyBlade
    @GnarlyBlade Год назад

    Is there a reason you wouldn’t want to tap the map sensor straight to the intake? I don’t have much experience with carb engines, younger guy here, just recently started looking into stuff because I’ve got a 77 camaro project and (I think) a 406 to go along with it. This product seems great for helpin someone like me tune the engine. (Have a holley efi system on a twin turbo street truck so I’m familiar with the wiring at least)

  • @paulthompson1654
    @paulthompson1654 Год назад

    Can you store and download to pc the overlayed graphs of Afr /vacuum /rpm / road speed . I have looked into this and the only other method would be stand alone data recorder with the option of a dash display. Well done U may well receive an order from me.

  • @richardhatcher7206
    @richardhatcher7206 Год назад

    Hi Luke I'm Richard in new Zealand do you do fuel injection cars I have 4cyl injection but can't find a way to get better fuel economy any clues done everything timing is factory 6degress it is a 96 Mazda pickup

  • @gdfitzgibbon
    @gdfitzgibbon Год назад

    Speaking of money’s worth, how much longer before I get mine?

  • @samhicks97
    @samhicks97 Год назад

    Really glad you made your project into a reality, being an engineer paid off eh?
    Also get the Carb Cheater patented, Would hate it if someone stole all your well earned glory, or thunder. (No pun intended)
    Wouldn't be surprised if you got offers or sponsorships relating to the Carb Cheater, this kit will definitely tune in with the people that don't like to fully embrace the Carburetor as it is & tinker and tune on a weekly basis without some form of "Instruction" or information, Off the path here but either way, if you don't like embracing the concept of a carburetor, i'd say your in the wrong hobby.
    Anywho, good deal.

  • @MattsRageFitGarage
    @MattsRageFitGarage 6 месяцев назад

    I'm really tempted to buy one of these for my 64 galaxie. The issue with that car is the under-hood heat buildup and the AFR goes rich on hot days with extended idling. How well will the carb cheater help with situations like this? for example, if I set the idle AFR at 13:1 once the engine is fully warm and I sit there idling in gear on a hot day after a while it'll be at 10-11:1 and idling poorly because of the heat buildup under the hood. Once I get going for about a mile and everything cools back off idle AFR returns to normal and of course driving on cold days in the winter/fall it will be leaner. I know its not the carb or a carb insulating issue as I have a good heat spacer setup under the carb and have had a couple different carbs on it with the same issues on hot ays.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  6 месяцев назад +1

      You must already have a wideband - that type of stuff is indeed what I made Carb Cheater to do. We are currently sold out though until early April.
      Most people are like "you set it and forget it" anyone with a wideband (like you or myself) knows it moves around based on conditions.
      Static metering device, dynamic environment

    • @MattsRageFitGarage
      @MattsRageFitGarage 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThunderHead289 Yeah, I have an AEM wideband in all of my carbureted vehicles. How well does this work with engines with huge camshafts? I have a 445 FE stroker with a comp cams 294S that makes 6-8" vacuum at idle and am interested in maybe putting one in that car as well.

  • @johnmichael4105
    @johnmichael4105 Год назад

    I think that this is awesome.

  • @jgallo600
    @jgallo600 Год назад

    Great stuff

  • @mikemchaney1003
    @mikemchaney1003 Год назад

    I liked the idea, until the app. Basically an idle air control motor that allows you add air to the fuel mixture under the carb making this a simple TBI style set up has it place. But having to have a specific phone tied to the vehicle or having to have a second device for another vehicle is what turns me off. What if I have multiple vehicles that I am having driven in a group (I own 6 and we still do cruise in's in our small town) using this product. That means that each person driving my other vehicles (say my wife in my second vehicle and so on) would also have to have this app downloaded on a device to run that vehicle. What happens if I do not take my phone with me? Which I often do. I also do not use my phones GPS. I have all those permissions turned off. I live way out in the country and half the time the GPS and cell reception doesn't work any way so we do not rely on our phones. Of course I feel this could be a better product if it came with a mini dash controller like the Holley or other set ups. Even the cheap "power programmer/ speedo healers" come with a small hand held screen. I understand this would up the price of the product. You are already asking $383 for this set up. Say someone was going to upgrade their project vehicle with a new intake (est $400) and carb (est $400) and then add your product, the total cost is not much less than going to a TBI style fuel injection set up which is self tuning as well. The major difference is that you need to have a well tuned carburetor first for your system to work properly. Don't get me wrong, I love watching your videos and I play them when I can and I would love to try this out on my old F100 that I just inherited with a 352 that is going under the knife getting a factory 4 barrel intake, cam, HEI style distributor and a Street Demon carb. Just do not want somethin that is tied to my phone or other device that I have to keep with the vehicle when it is driven.

  • @ronalddavis7711
    @ronalddavis7711 Год назад

    Will this work on 272 56 Ford truck

  • @ezalku
    @ezalku Год назад

    don't forget ac input

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Год назад

    How does this actually adjust the carb settings without having anything installed inside the carburetor? Am I missing something?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      Think about a pcv valve how it's a metered "vacuum leak" in a way.
      Carb cheater is the same deal in a simple sense, just a complex control circuit and program that automatically proportionally adjusts based on a comparison of actual afr and target afr. There's actually a weird scientific phenomenon that happened with this valve that I'll get into in a video in the near future - ironically i accidentally discovered this relationship by accident the effects of which not being my initial intent.

  • @GbodyMedia
    @GbodyMedia Год назад

    Very Interesting

  • @austinmiller1540
    @austinmiller1540 Год назад

    So there is a clifford performance intake manifold that uses 2 two barrel carbs. Any chance this could work for that? Or is it strictly 4 barrel carbs for now?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      We had enough requests for two barrels that were making the standard autolite/holley 2 barrel as well as spread bore

  • @vcmdpropulsion126
    @vcmdpropulsion126 8 месяцев назад

    nice system. did you create it? if you did i have diagrams and EZ EFI teck we should develop

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  8 месяцев назад

      I did create it, I programmed and designed the process flow and r&d on the components and circuitry while another guy I work with made it mass producable (machined parts and so on)

  • @chazmister56
    @chazmister56 Год назад

    Hah, good to see the ol f100 head bump at 27:46. I do have at least one question regarding this setup vs the beta setup, I'm assuming the extra wires you excluded are for the limiter control? If so I'd love to find out if that can be easily added back on the normal versions. Either way, I'll be placing my order and cant wait to throw it on my own f100! Gonna really put the system to the test here in the Rockies. Great job Luke!
    EDIT: I rewatched just incase and you mentioned choke circuit/etc, still would love an answer!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      I'm not sure what you mean with the choke circuit but the on board relay could definitely be used for choke power.
      Also it has no ill effects on choke from everything I tested this winter. But that's only two vehicles Also

  • @jdrods1519
    @jdrods1519 Год назад

    This is AWESOME!!! 🇺🇸💪🏼

  • @TheSouthdownband
    @TheSouthdownband Год назад

    my edelbrock carb has a spreadbore design so that spacer would not work,i found out the hard way as i had a 4 hole spacer like that and tossed it on not even looking at the bottom of my carb 1st and after not getting the secondaries to open i found out they was hitting the spacer, so what would i do in that case? run my spreadbore adapter on top of this adapter? that may be a bit hard with already having my air cleaner nearly touching my hood.

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +1

      We're working on a spread bore adapter - we didn't realize how many people would be interested in this deal 😅

  • @THNKKY
    @THNKKY Год назад

    That’s dope!

  • @karimettala7256
    @karimettala7256 Год назад

    Unfortunately no shipping to europa.Shipping not available

  • @milkhouse01ja
    @milkhouse01ja Год назад

    How do the coil wires connect if I'm just using an hei distributor?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      Yellow to BAT green to TACH. Real easy 👍

    • @milkhouse01ja
      @milkhouse01ja Год назад

      @ThunderHead289 awesome! Thank you. Sorry I'm an idiot. Still learning

  • @kday-5263
    @kday-5263 Год назад

    Hey Luke,Can the Carb Cheater be used with HEI Ign. (in cap coil)?

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      Easy, that's what the maverick has. Yellow wire to BAT, spliced to existing lead, and green wire to TACH (if already a wire on tach, land ours and splice original tach to ours. Easy Easy

  • @jamesmcrobert3286
    @jamesmcrobert3286 Год назад

    Really Nice!

  • @cartermackenzie1135
    @cartermackenzie1135 10 месяцев назад

    Would this work with an MSD box ? I want to use one an a carbureted LS motor i have

    • @cartermackenzie1135
      @cartermackenzie1135 10 месяцев назад

      You would use the tach wire and ignition 12v instead of plugging into the coil right?

  • @isaiahloy8831
    @isaiahloy8831 Год назад

    What's the intro song 😁

  • @petehenderson
    @petehenderson 5 месяцев назад

    Very informative great tipa

  • @MunchinMaQuchy
    @MunchinMaQuchy Год назад

    Does this work on a holley demon 625? Also i was going to put this on my ls and those coils are controlled by an msd box. How do you think i could wire that up?

  • @hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542

    I have no portable spyware device...
    Will this not work for me then?

  • @dosman01302
    @dosman01302 Год назад

    Points and condenser is okay with that device right? Asking for a 65 Galaxie 352 😊

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад

      Yes absolutely 👍

    • @dosman01302
      @dosman01302 Год назад

      @@ThunderHead289 okay uncle Luke. I'll put my order in

  • @jamesbond-iu4ig
    @jamesbond-iu4ig Год назад

    Now we need a fuel injection cheater. well don't hate some of my cars are carb some are injected. LOL great vid

  • @tubatits
    @tubatits Год назад

    So I will be ordering this for my Chevy G10 250 cu van, but Im now thinking if this would work on my twin Weber air cooled VW Beetle?
    I already have sandwich plates with nipples for the MAP sensored digital ignition on it, but the nipples are smaller. Not sure what if any issues there could be with CC in a multiple carb system.
    The compact data display alone is making this very appealing.
    So no shipping to Canada at the moment?

  • @bstwarlock87
    @bstwarlock87 Год назад +129

    Thank you so much Luke for all you've taught the carburetor community, you sir are a true national treasure and a genius!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +29

      No genius - just a guy who can beat his head against a wall a lot and a good support team in Joe ternus behind me on this project 👍

  • @VetteComp
    @VetteComp Год назад +49

    Hey Luke, just wanted to thank you so much for the continous resource and guide you've been on carbureation over all these years. I really hope carb Cheater as a brand is a big break for you and your team/family. You've given so much over the years, and it would make me super happy to see this product take off stratospherically in the car community for your sake. Keep on doing amazing things brother!

    • @ThunderHead289
      @ThunderHead289  Год назад +22

      I just hope it helps people to stop bad mouthing carbs when we're in a sea of aftermarket injection failures - it's put a negative spin on old cars for the next generation I've seen and that's been sad to watch. Hoping to poke some holes in that mentality 🙂

    • @PaulThomas-qo9vy
      @PaulThomas-qo9vy Год назад +5

      @@ThunderHead289 Amen to that! As you say, Carbs are a fixed metering device, (I add: pressure differential fuel mover) in a dynamic (variable) world! Your Carb Cheater adds instantaneous & continuous adjustments far faster than anyone could adjust the carb while living under the hood while someone else drove! It's pure genius Luke & Joe!