I just love what they did with Hyrule and Lorule in TLOZ:ALBW Zelda (Wisdom) - Hilda (Foolishness) Gannon (Power) - Yuga (Weakness) Link (Courage) - Ravio (Cowardness)
@Zeltik Tell 'em to fix them mistakes. For example, at 13:25 they say that Ganondorf kills the WW sages to "not be taken down by the descendant of the Hero of Time". How can they rectify that statement with the fact that the Hero of Time was not around in the Adult Timeline to create any descendants?
Ganondorf in the adult timeline (wind waker timeline) had the hundreds of years between Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker to reflect on his past actions and probably realized that his actions caused the opposite of what he intended to cause. He wanted to give the Gerudo a chance to prosper but instead he gave them ruin and he probably realized that so he became determined to make up for his past actions but both Demise’s Curse and his inability to let go of the past made him take actions that turned those he wanted help against him.
Also something I thought of regarding Majora, is it possible that initially the spirit of Majora was neutral as it had seen what his death had created but the use of the mask for hexing rituals corrupted Majora? This is assuming you consider the Majora’s Mask Manga as the canon origin of the mask.
There is no timeline just play oot again zelda explains it all once the sword is returned the 2 times combined once again and everything link dose is set in stone meaning there is no timeline besides what happens after oot also the creator him self has openly said each story with few exceptions are completely separate
Realize that the gerudo tribe are the most prosperous, during the events of Breath of the wild, the only time we get the gerudo while having beast ganon, meaning that as ganon he had no political power over the gerudo. With their own political leader in power they were able to focus on their own will and became prosperous.
Perfect Cell the creators also release the "Zelda oficial timeline" a couple of years ago (timeline this video uses btw) and are aparently making serious efforts to stick to said timeline in any future way the timeline was released alongside Skyward sword (the first Zelda game chrinologically) and the creators have made múltiple references to it (for example they say that breath of the wild place in the timeline is a secret that gamers will have to discover)
@@Fae2705 No... Let's not make that an official game if anything I at least want Young Link to have a mask costume in SSBU U.... The one you get at the end of Majora's Mask.. I forgot it's name LOL
They point is that this was changed in the HD version. No idea how old you are but in the N64 version Link's final strike clearly lands inside Ganon's mouth. Maybe that's why he said this but used the wrong footage.
Ever noticed how the Triforce on Demise's sword is upside down? What if Demise was in fact Lorule's fallen god? What if he once was Lorule's counterpart of Goddess Hylia, and took this demon form and became evil after Lorule's ruler destroyed their Triforce? Lorule's ancient hero may have then proceeded to banish Demise to another realm in order to save Lorule from destruction... thus, opening a rift between the two parallel worlds, allowing for Demise and his army of demons to enter Hyrule. What if, by seeking to obtain Hyrule's Triforce... Demise was (secretly and unconsciously) wishing to return to his former self, to transform back into the god he once was?
This would mirror the Bible, where Lucifer was once an angel and God's right hand man, but then was cast to Hell after attempting to betray God, thus creating their duplicity.
I think it would be sickly and frail sounding when he doesn’t have his mask on, and when his mask is on he would have a more menacing voice. His voice would change as it is revealed to us that he is not this competent enemy, but just an incredibly deluded person
A final confrontation with Demise could be epic. Combining all the Heros‘ Powers, revisiting iconic places throughout the Timelines (Yes, Time Travel/Dimensional Travel) and casting an ultimate form of the Master Sword to brake the course once and for all!
Spicy_ Riker if they do that I really hope they go back to the linear formula... BotW was really strenuous for me as it was... That game should be the longest zelda yet
How breath of the wild felt is how the original zelda felt for all the people back in 1987 i think. Exploration was what the game was all about and had almost no formula. I feel like if the original zelda game was linear botw wouldn't exist.
@A B not all Links are related so it's a good question. OoT Link and TLP Link are the only Links to be related for sure and seeing how BOTW takes place at the end of all timelines and TLP is only in the child timeline it would probably be safe to say it is unlikely for the hero of the wild to be directly related to the hero of twilight
@@anonymouspumpkin8296 Since BoTW takes place at the end of all timelines, this Link is almost CERTAINLY a descendent of a previous hero. Over the course of tens of thousands of years, a prosperous bloodline would have thousands or millions of descendants. Kind of like how everyone is everyone else’s cousin if you go back far enough.
I was about to say this, the official Japanese line explicitly says that dark beast Ganon is formed by his refusal to give up on reincarnation, so how did the localization mistake happen?
Great video! It always bothered me that we essentially blamed Vaati in FSA then killed him, only to be met with "ah but it was actually me!" by Ganon. One of only other reoccurring villains, and Nintendo killed him off without issue. As much as I love Ganondorf, we need variation again.
I think this Calamity Ganon creature is the 'real' Ganon behind the prior games, and that we are seeing 'it' for the first time. This Ganon may be more an a recurring entity or a force of nature, and I suspect there is much more to this Calamity Ganon and it's history then what we have with the games. I think with the Skyward Sword elements like Hylia , this creature might be tied more to it's demonic origins then to the Gerudo one in future games.
@@Obozo_Gaming Actually no. Thats a mistranslation from the Japanese version. The English version says: "He has given up on reincarnation and assumed his pure, enraged form." and yet the Japanese original says: "This form was born from his obsessive refusal to give up on revival…" I'm not sure why the meanings are opposed here but I interpreted it as Ganon not giving up and assuming another form, one that is less useful than the one he was creating inside the Hyrule Castle sanctuary. The form that was seen in Hyrule castle was clearly incomplete and might have eventually looked more humanoid again. A Gerudo even comments that an earlier reincarnation of Ganon took the form of a Gerudo (Ganondorf) so I imagine Calamity Ganon's goal was to create a humanoid, droid like body made with Sheikah technology that resembled Ganondorf yet was able to use the Guardian weapons and stuff. The fact he cut himself loose from the cocoon he was making the body in rather that emerging from it normally says to me that Link battled him before it was ready and after we destroyed it he didn't give up and assumed a spirit like form made entirely of malice which was more vulnerable to light magic than that of the half Sheikah half malice one he was making.
There is some fanon in this video. The legend of the Interlopers is connected to the creation myth, meaning it likely happened before the Great Cataclysm. For all we know, Demise could have even been one of the Interlopers. As for the war before Ocarina of Time, all canonical information we have about it is the Deku Tree Sprout's words, "...before the King unified this country...". That indicates that it was a unification war, not a civil war. If anything that makes Zelda's father the aggressor. Of course he likely did it to end an era of continuing warfare.
Roderic Kingfield Agreed. There's also using non-canon translation changes like "Ganon giving up on reincarnation" or using the name "Ganondorf Dragmire" or the awful "Mandrag Ganon".
I feel kinda sorry for Ganondorf. I’m pretty sure he was being used by Demise. Ganondorf had legitimate grievances with the royal family, but under the control of Demise, he was basically led down a path he didn’t necessarily seek.
Yeah I agree. Although I love the cutthroat portrayal of the Ganondorf from twilight princess and Hyrule warriors as well, as well as the terrifying prescence of calamity ganon from botw.
He is definitely the Ganon with the most depth and motivation in the series. You actually understand why he became so obsessed with power, the triforce and why he wanted to rule Hyrule. Consumed by jealously over the kingdom of Hyrule while his people lived in squalor in the desert.
I love the ending on the wind waker the game is cartoonish but stabbing ganondorf in the head in gerudo form has be the most brutal yet dark final blow in the series(in my opinion)
It's a time line about the villian. I think you can't describe the windfish as a villian. It was a sleeping creature and not a bad villian trying to optain the world
I’d love to see Vaati get a Winder Waker Ganondorf moment, where after a long time as a mindless monster, he suddenly has a moment of sincerity and clarity that catches you off guard
Ninjaananas you know what I mean. He went from being a sort of humanoid character to a big ol’ evil cloud. I want to see the humanoid character come back, and I want to see a moment where that humanoid character is appealing to the player, where you sympathize with him.
Literally Why well out of all the villains, he is the one that got sealed for the longest amounts of time, and each time he was sealed and released, his mind was destroyed more and more. Its no surprise that at the end, he was no more than a mindless beast, his mind no more.
Literally Why He had his demon form in Minish Cap, too. That form is not related to his mind but his power. He can transform at will and he was still sentient at the end of the timeline.
Wow amazing video! I recently started playing Zelda Breath of the Wild and Instantly fell in love with the story, this basically sums up all the games I have missed, thank you, this helps me makes sense of everything that is happening in breath of the wild.
I have an argument here. In the Adult timeline, the Hero of Time vanished after the defeat of Ganon, sent back into the past by Zelda's magic. This is why when Ganon broke free, no incarnation of the Hero appeared to face him. The Spirit of the Hero no longer existed in that timeline. The Hero of the Wind was not related to the other heroes at all. He was just a boy trying to do what he could. Also, In the Child Timeline, Link Returned to the past, shutting the Gate of Time before Ganondorf could pass it. As a result, Ganondorf never touched the Triforce. Because of this, I suspect that the symbol on his hand in Twilight Princess was more a showing of Demise's influence rather than the actual Triforce of Power.
@@snbeast9545 I am pretty sure you have misinterpreted that scene. Ganondorf was not given the Triforce of Power by the Sages. That would be idiotic on a Catastrophic level. The statement the sages make is that, in a cruel twist of fate, as they were about to execute him, Ganondorf became one of those chosen by the Goddesses, a state that is commonly taken to be that he had somehow drawn the Triforce of Power to himself. The issue with that is that we know that Ganondorf never broke the Triforce in that Timeline, because the door was shut. He could not reach it (if he could, he would not have needed Link to get the stones and open the door for him in the first place), so he could not break it, and there was no way the sages would ever be dumb enough to hand an inmate such a powerful weapon. Foolish enough to Underestimate his power with Demise's curse backing him up, yes, but handing him even a part of the Triforce? Not a chance.
@@Trueknightofblades I don't know how Ganon got a part of the Triforce, then, but we do that Link has a part of it, since that's what saved him when he first entered the Twilight. Also, Ganon must have had some other way to survive his execution and some other way he could have appeared to Zant as a god.
@@snbeast9545 I maintain that being "Chosen by the Gods" does not need to be synonymous with "Having part of the Triforce". Yes, it bears the same symbology, but in each of the games where the Triforce was involved, it was called the Triforce, and one of the goals of the villain was to use it to make a wish. There is no indication of that in Twilight Princess, which is why I say it can easily be something else related to the Goddesses, since the Triforce is never shown to be active in that timeline. Honestly, it could just as easily be the influence of the Spirit of the Hero, and the Power of Demise's Curse, or something else, unique to Twilight Princess.
@@Trueknightofblades ruclips.net/video/ksHrg_tSGqw/видео.html Note how the Sages refer to Link as "You who possess the crest of the Goddesses." And, vastly stronger proof, note how, at 2:26, YOU SEE THE TRIFORCE OF POWER FLASH ON GANONDORF'S HAND. Refute that. Also, Demise never had the Triforce of Power (that we know of), so it's not symbolic of Demise.
I'm only 2 mins in and thought I must have had Dirty Jobs or Mythbusters playing X"D He sounds SO MUCH LIKE THEIR NARRATORS :O PS...Also, awesome work everyone, this is EPIC
My goodness, this is like watching a history Channel documentary. My respects for your hard work. How can I not like and subscribe for your detailed work.
Very intricate storyline. I've played every Zelda game except the NES and Game Boy versions. I swear I thought each game was somehow connected but not to this degree. Amazing. I was always left reflecting on what Link (or the hero) had to go through to restore peace and all the characters involved. I marvel at the similarities to real life,like how we all have problems and how we can do good for others that they themselves aren't aware of. The fact that Link or Zelda sometimes are played by characters that have little connection to Link and Zelda bothers me a bit. I remember buying and starting Wind Waker and just being let down when I learned that the kids I thought was Link wasn't Link. Still loved the game.
I think that's only in the timelines where ganon was sealed and not killed. Since the gerudos only have one male for their entire population, and in the timelines where ganon didn't die he'd still be the one male gerudo and thus not allowing another to be born.
Nice video! One thing though: Majora's Mask cannot have originated from Termina because the Hyrule Encyclopedia states that Termina was a parallel universe created by Majora's Mask based on the memories of Skull Kid.
It certainly says no such thing. You clearly saw a theory somewhere and rolled with it. Regardless, it's a bad source for "canon," as many moments on the official timeline have been brought into question since the book came out. You can kinda be left to interpret it any way you want, in almost any order as long as you keep skyward sword at the beginning and wind waker closer to the end. But the whole Termina being created by Majora is utterly incorrect. The only theory that even mentions Termina being a fabrication is from the "link is dead" theories, all proven wrong by Nintendo.
I read something the other day that (using quotes and evidence from actual in-game dialogue) explained how a few of the non-Ganon villains, including Majora, were all corrupted Gods from before Demise even appeared. Anyone else know of this?
It would be cool but also terrifying if in the next Zelda game (most likely Botw 2) if the developers made Ganondorf more like Majora’s mask. It would make him a truly terrifying villain and would make the player want to defeat Ganondorf over and over.
Although a Zelda which resolves around time has already been done, it would be pretty cool to see a villain who somehow manipulated time in which Demise won the battle against Link. Not sure, I just really liked the idea of Demise and wouldn't mind seeing him as a villain again.
You know what I want? I want some villain other than Ganon to make a comeback. Because seriously, so far there's mostly been either Ganon or a one-shot villain, and there are a lot of problems with constantly using both. Face it, Ganon is becoming really over-saturated by now, and it would be nice to get a breath of fresh air over him. On the other hand, bringing in brand new villains is fine, but they don't really get to reach their full potential if they're only ever used in one game. Someone like Vaati, Ghirahim, Zant, Majora, Bellum or even Yuga would be awesome to see make a return in a future Zelda game. And don't say that it's impossible for them to return. If Ganon can come back after being killed a couple dozen times then so can the others.
HeavyDonkeyKong, sure, but it's been even longer since Vaati's last appearance...who is pretty much the only other reoccurring villain in the series. Ganon may be a good villain and all, but his best showing have already been used. If he died for good at the end of Wind Waker, I would have honestly been happy for it, because that was such a satisfying ending for him. But no, they had to bring him back again...mostly just to steal the spotlight from Zant, Vaati and Cia. Believe me when I say that we really don't need more Ganon.
Flufux to be fair, twilight princess was a different timeline, but I get what you mean. I think it would be cool if ganons influence was still felt, tho. Like the yiga clan from botw wanting to carry on his legacy.
I'm just amazed by the amount of research and dedication you guys put into your videos, you deserve waaaay more views and I'm sure you'll get there eventually but I'm happy you keep up your quality no matter who's watching, means you really enjoy what you're doing. Kudos to everyone involved in this and I hope you guys keep it up!
It's kinda sad to think that Gannon felt remorse for his actions, and maybe wasnt cruel in his intentions at least. But through time and being caught up in Demise's curse of reincarnation just devolve into a beast that couldn't do more than destroy on Demise's behalf
I recommend you get into the series. Botw is my fav, but the series as a whole is masterfully crafted. I'd recommend starting with ocarina of Time and/or a link to the past personally. I feel that they are the best jumping on points from a gameplay perspective. From a story perspective, ocarina of Time is likely the best jumping on point imo. And the old titles still hold up today imo. I like twilight princess and wind waker better than ocarina and link to the past, but ocarina and lini to the past are still great games.
Vladislav Klimaševskij ocarina has a 3ds port if your interested in that. I'm not sure about link to the past tho. Maybe it's on virtual console, but I havent really followed that as much as I should have.
HeavyDonkeyKong im on a lookout for cheap good condition 3ds all the time :) don't want to drop 200+ on it and really hope switches virtual console will bring some of the titles
Ganon will return, he always does. The Zelda series will continue, more villains will show up time and time again. We may get old foes in the form of Aghinim, Ghirahim, Yuga and so many others. Darkness rises with light to meet it!
Robin McCormack Yuga was just the Lorulian Ganondorf, maybe a next game in Lorule "the Legend of Hilda". I believe that Ghirahim is not dead and is the Trident of Ganon. Aghanim was just the half of the soul of Ganon in disguise, an alter ego, since Ganondorf was also a sorcerer as he learn magic from his step mothers, the Twinrovas. He used this form to break the seal of the Sages over the Dark World.
It would be dumb to have ganon reappear after BOTW since ganon only exist because of demises curse, and calamity ganon represents that curse, and is destroyed by link in botw
Little Narwhal No, Calamity Ganon represented Ganon's Hatred powered by Demise's curse. That said, I agree that it would be stupid for them to have either Ganon or Ganondorf show up in a game set after BotW in the timeline. But there are hundreds or even thousands of years before Ganon became Calamity Ganon in each of the timelines in which new games could be added with him as part of it. Post-BotW games will have new incarnations of Demise's curse, while the Pre-BotW games can still be the Ganon(dorf) show.
Post-BotW, someone comes across the remains of Majora's Mask and the ancient ritual that was botched giving the Fallen timeline its Ganon. Then they carry out the ritual and again botch it resulting in another mindless Ganon. The person then somehow reconstitutes Majora's Mask which quickly takes over Ganon's powerful yet mindless body.
That is a lot of coincidence to find both the remains of Majora's Mask and the ancient ritual (texts?) that brought Ganon back to life in the Downfall timeline. Besides, at the end of MM, the mask no longer houses evil. Sounds like bad fan fiction more than something you would find in a Zelda game.
Majora is a Dragon that grants wishes but gets corrupted because the other two wishes were never wished for sinced Deity sealed his armor plating into a Mask and Majora dies dancing, which this part of the story is found in the Japanese manga.
So the manga is a spin-off. But one question remains. How the heck did the Oracle games connect to Link's Awakening if Link set sail to Hyrule but got into a storm and in the Oracle games he is near Hyrule bordered by Death Mountain in both Holodrum and Labrynna. And if that doesn't convince you then how did Twinrova get the flame of despair if it just appeared in thin air.
I kinda want them to really mix the formula up for the next big Zelda. Maybe, just maybe - entertain the thought - actually make a reincarnation of Demise the protagonist and player character. The story is then about how everyone stands against you because you are fated to be evil and Zelda and Link are your enemies even though you don't really plan on getting your hands on the triforce or taking over the kingdom. The whole game could be a beautiful and tragic tale of an incarnation of evil born into a good intentioned character who everyone persecutes then for the past atrocities his previous incarnations comitted. Hell, the game could even end with the player character dying as usual and just weeping and accepting his fate even though he never had any bad intentions. This would also give us a whole new perspective on the world of the Zelda franchise since we could ally with usually bad intentioned creatures and races as the new incarnation of Demise. We could find out that maybe Bokoblins, Moblins and the Lizalfos aren't as primitive as we thought they were as the player befriends them and wins them over for his cause and they swear allegience to him etc.
Hmm since seeing this I hope that the next Zelda game has a new villain instead of Ganon(or Ganondorf). Maybe the next villain could be the equivalent of Demise, Zant or Vaati! (Edit) And when I meant equivalent to Demise, I meant some villain that looks as badass or someone we haven’t seen before(not to say that Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time Ganondorf didn’t look badass. In fact Twilight Princess Ganondorf looked waayy badass)!
Robin McCormack oh? That could be quite interesting. But how would that ever be accomplished? Denise’s residual energy was sealed in the Master Sword! Unless maybe there might be a route taken like in 4 Swords, how Vaati broke free of the four sword, that could be possible!
I doubt Ganondorf in Wind Waker was dead set on righting his wrongs. I imagine if that were the case, he would not resort to killing the sages and kidnapping people to see if they're Zelda's descendant. He would be a lot more subtle about it and only become more drastic once it becomes apparent to the Hero about who he is.
I think the cycle will never end. I would love to see the next Zelda to be a sorta 1800s magic filled adventure. And have Ganon be more Reasonable in his thinking up untill is true ententions are reviled.
Demise's Hatred is spread over the whole Demon Tribe(in the Original JP speech of Demise), and Vaati turned into a Demon after being corrupted by the darkness in men's hearts, so Vaati is also an incarnation of Demise's Hatred. Even a simple Bokoblin bears some of Demise Hatred, since Demise is the father of all Demons.
Aidan Or Vaati is a particularly dangerous incarnation. Having Stolen 3/4 of Hylia's power which was never returned. No wonder Zelda keeps getting sealed and has to rely on the triforce of wisdom.
Nonoctoro that is incorrect actually. With how the light force manifests, who it manifests in, and how it operates, points to it being Hylia's power. Not a simple artifact.
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When do you think the next game will drop?
The hero is twilight you mean? Just helping to correct future versions!
This video is just too long.
Z Katt how? Do you want it to just be a short summary? Then watch other people. Commonwealth realm is about explaining everything!
SpadeZap oh I know, but they could've just broken it up into like 3 15-minute videos.
I just love what they did with Hyrule and Lorule in TLOZ:ALBW
Zelda (Wisdom) - Hilda (Foolishness)
Gannon (Power) - Yuga (Weakness)
Link (Courage) - Ravio (Cowardness)
Pedro Fellipe huh, never noticed that
It's arguable, but that's actually a cool theory.
Little bit of correction, There is no such word as Cowardness. The proper word for it is Cowardice
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@Zeltik Tell 'em to fix them mistakes. For example, at 13:25 they say that Ganondorf kills the WW sages to "not be taken down by the descendant of the Hero of Time".
How can they rectify that statement with the fact that the Hero of Time was not around in the Adult Timeline to create any descendants?
Zeltik! :D
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Ganondorf in the adult timeline (wind waker timeline) had the hundreds of years between Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker to reflect on his past actions and probably realized that his actions caused the opposite of what he intended to cause. He wanted to give the Gerudo a chance to prosper but instead he gave them ruin and he probably realized that so he became determined to make up for his past actions but both Demise’s Curse and his inability to let go of the past made him take actions that turned those he wanted help against him.
Also something I thought of regarding Majora, is it possible that initially the spirit of Majora was neutral as it had seen what his death had created but the use of the mask for hexing rituals corrupted Majora? This is assuming you consider the Majora’s Mask Manga as the canon origin of the mask.
There is no timeline just play oot again zelda explains it all once the sword is returned the 2 times combined once again and everything link dose is set in stone meaning there is no timeline besides what happens after oot also the creator him self has openly said each story with few exceptions are completely separate
Realize that the gerudo tribe are the most prosperous, during the events of Breath of the wild, the only time we get the gerudo while having beast ganon, meaning that as ganon he had no political power over the gerudo. With their own political leader in power they were able to focus on their own will and became prosperous.
He also realize that Demise tried using him.... that's why he didn't lose control and turn into Gannon as the final boss.
Perfect Cell the creators also release the "Zelda oficial timeline" a couple of years ago (timeline this video uses btw) and are aparently making serious efforts to stick to said timeline in any future way
the timeline was released alongside Skyward sword (the first Zelda game chrinologically) and the creators have made múltiple references to it (for example they say that breath of the wild place in the timeline is a secret that gamers will have to discover)
I read a bunch of comments on next game ideas in here.
All i can say is, im glad none of you work at nintendo.
XD
It's true! most of them would end the series! Personally I wanna see link go to space! Or a Gerudo Link.
@@Fae2705 No... Let's not make that an official game if anything I at least want Young Link to have a mask costume in SSBU U.... The one you get at the end of Majora's Mask.. I forgot it's name LOL
N Galaxy there’s a spirit in the adventure mode that is fierce deity link. It gives you sword attack
@@cdz3210 I know but I want young link to have a costume of it... I think Link has one that looks like it thou... Oh and I have that spirit
"Piercing it straight into the beast mouth"
*Shows scene of Link ramming the sword into Ganon's HEAD*
Jackson George well, it probably just like... stuck through his WHOLE head so if you look into his mouth you can see the sword I guess :/
Also that's Sharp not Flat
@@emery-gaming Not the point
They point is that this was changed in the HD version. No idea how old you are but in the N64 version Link's final strike clearly lands inside Ganon's mouth. Maybe that's why he said this but used the wrong footage.
i love how the voice sounds like a voice from the history channel, lol
He does a bunch of nice fallout storytelling as well look it up.
Same
LOL ikr
Rion Wilson. Me too.
I think that’s what they were going for...maybe
Ever noticed how the Triforce on Demise's sword is upside down? What if Demise was in fact Lorule's fallen god? What if he once was Lorule's counterpart of Goddess Hylia, and took this demon form and became evil after Lorule's ruler destroyed their Triforce? Lorule's ancient hero may have then proceeded to banish Demise to another realm in order to save Lorule from destruction... thus, opening a rift between the two parallel worlds, allowing for Demise and his army of demons to enter Hyrule.
What if, by seeking to obtain Hyrule's Triforce... Demise was (secretly and unconsciously) wishing to return to his former self, to transform back into the god he once was?
This would mirror the Bible, where Lucifer was once an angel and God's right hand man, but then was cast to Hell after attempting to betray God, thus creating their duplicity.
Bruh...
That's such a good theory
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A Game Theory!
@ Its called a theory. We understand your brain can't process anything.
you genius
27:01 I really think that Zant's voice would be nothing like that
I think it would be sickly and frail sounding when he doesn’t have his mask on, and when his mask is on he would have a more menacing voice. His voice would change as it is revealed to us that he is not this competent enemy, but just an incredibly deluded person
This guys voice is sooo boring
Demise: My hate will give me power!
Link: No...EXERCISE does. You haven’t moved from your coach for millennia!
I'd love to see a game set in Lorule playing as Ravio (now more courageous), having to save Hilda/Lorule from a new threat.
That would be fun
Could work as a spin-off like the tingle games
@@mattr0fact949there are tingle games?
A final confrontation with Demise could be epic.
Combining all the Heros‘ Powers, revisiting iconic places throughout the Timelines (Yes, Time Travel/Dimensional Travel) and casting an ultimate form of the Master Sword to brake the course once and for all!
Spicy_ Riker if they do that I really hope they go back to the linear formula... BotW was really strenuous for me as it was... That game should be the longest zelda yet
How breath of the wild felt is how the original zelda felt for all the people back in 1987 i think. Exploration was what the game was all about and had almost no formula. I feel like if the original zelda game was linear botw wouldn't exist.
That would be the ultimate zelda game
I used to have this idea that all the past incarnations of link would show up and combine into the new one to stop ganon
They came close to something like that with Hyrule Warriors
I'm not gonna lie. I'd put on Majoras mask.
Yeah I would, it looks cool.
Definitely worth putting the whole world under threat of annihilation.
Same, It looks so smooth
And this is why we don't have those things in our world. 👍🏻👍🏿👍🏻👍🏿
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Hero of Twilight killed Ganondorf in TP, not the Hero of Time.
The production quality of this channel is insane!
17:25 YES, FINALY SOME LOVE FOR SPIRIT TRACKS
It goes without saying how much we all appreciate the work you put into these
I love how you guys work so much this videos. Keep it up, we love them!!!
Whoever it is talking at the start of the video and other certain points I just wanna say your voice is awesome!
Ummm didn't the hero of time beome the ancient hero in twilight princess and the ancestor to the hero of twilight?
Jaxon Moreno exactly i was thinking the same
Yeah. They said it in their previous timeline video.
Could the Link in BOTW be related to the Hero of Time and Hero of Twilight?
@A B not all Links are related so it's a good question. OoT Link and TLP Link are the only Links to be related for sure and seeing how BOTW takes place at the end of all timelines and TLP is only in the child timeline it would probably be safe to say it is unlikely for the hero of the wild to be directly related to the hero of twilight
@@anonymouspumpkin8296 Since BoTW takes place at the end of all timelines, this Link is almost CERTAINLY a descendent of a previous hero. Over the course of tens of thousands of years, a prosperous bloodline would have thousands or millions of descendants.
Kind of like how everyone is everyone else’s cousin if you go back far enough.
Dark Beast Ganon was a result of the Calamity refusing to give up on reincarnation. Zelda's claim to the contrary is a localization mistake.
I was about to say this, the official Japanese line explicitly says that dark beast Ganon is formed by his refusal to give up on reincarnation, so how did the localization mistake happen?
The more I see him the more I see that Ghirahim was probably the influence for Zamasu’s personality
28:08 he say "the hero of time" and not "the hero of twilight "
Technically, the hero of time DOES appear in TP
And the hero of time technically taught him the move that ended the final battle with ganondorf so
He also said hero of masks even though it is still the hero of time.
TBH, he said Oracle of Ages Link was a different generation to ALTTP Link. So...
Great video!
It always bothered me that we essentially blamed Vaati in FSA then killed him, only to be met with "ah but it was actually me!" by Ganon. One of only other reoccurring villains, and Nintendo killed him off without issue. As much as I love Ganondorf, we need variation again.
I think this Calamity Ganon creature is the 'real' Ganon behind the prior games, and that we are seeing 'it' for the first time. This Ganon may be more an a recurring entity or a force of nature, and I suspect there is much more to this Calamity Ganon and it's history then what we have with the games. I think with the Skyward Sword elements like Hylia , this creature might be tied more to it's demonic origins then to the Gerudo one in future games.
I thought calamity ganon was a botched resurrection
@@Obozo_Gaming Actually no. Thats a mistranslation from the Japanese version.
The English version says: "He has given up on reincarnation and assumed his pure, enraged form." and yet the Japanese original says: "This form was born from his obsessive refusal to give up on revival…"
I'm not sure why the meanings are opposed here but I interpreted it as Ganon not giving up and assuming another form, one that is less useful than the one he was creating inside the Hyrule Castle sanctuary.
The form that was seen in Hyrule castle was clearly incomplete and might have eventually looked more humanoid again. A Gerudo even comments that an earlier reincarnation of Ganon took the form of a Gerudo (Ganondorf) so I imagine Calamity Ganon's goal was to create a humanoid, droid like body made with Sheikah technology that resembled Ganondorf yet was able to use the Guardian weapons and stuff.
The fact he cut himself loose from the cocoon he was making the body in rather that emerging from it normally says to me that Link battled him before it was ready and after we destroyed it he didn't give up and assumed a spirit like form made entirely of malice which was more vulnerable to light magic than that of the half Sheikah half malice one he was making.
No it’s note even ganon. If it was you would need the master sword
There is some fanon in this video. The legend of the Interlopers is connected to the creation myth, meaning it likely happened before the Great Cataclysm. For all we know, Demise could have even been one of the Interlopers.
As for the war before Ocarina of Time, all canonical information we have about it is the Deku Tree Sprout's words, "...before the King unified this country...". That indicates that it was a unification war, not a civil war. If anything that makes Zelda's father the aggressor. Of course he likely did it to end an era of continuing warfare.
Roderic Kingfield Agreed. There's also using non-canon translation changes like "Ganon giving up on reincarnation" or using the name "Ganondorf Dragmire" or the awful "Mandrag Ganon".
I feel kinda sorry for Ganondorf. I’m pretty sure he was being used by Demise. Ganondorf had legitimate grievances with the royal family, but under the control of Demise, he was basically led down a path he didn’t necessarily seek.
the older mans voice in this series could be the voice of big box office movies for the next 10 years he should certainly do voice work very iconic
Wind waker gannon is the best villan btw
Yeah I agree. Although I love the cutthroat portrayal of the Ganondorf from twilight princess and Hyrule warriors as well, as well as the terrifying prescence of calamity ganon from botw.
Agreed. My second favorite is Ghirahim, and I also love Majora’s Mask and the mystery behind it.
Vaati is one of the villains with the farthest reaching consequences. Having stolen 3/4 of Hylia's power.
He is definitely the Ganon with the most depth and motivation in the series. You actually understand why he became so obsessed with power, the triforce and why he wanted to rule Hyrule. Consumed by jealously over the kingdom of Hyrule while his people lived in squalor in the desert.
I love the ending on the wind waker the game is cartoonish but stabbing ganondorf in the head in gerudo form has be the most brutal yet dark final blow in the series(in my opinion)
What about Links Awakening? And you totally forgot about the Zelda series greatest villain: Phillips.
You really want the Unholy triforce in this story?
It's a time line about the villian. I think you can't describe the windfish as a villian. It was a sleeping creature and not a bad villian trying to optain the world
@@kawaisoubaka1942 the windfish isn't the villain, the nightmares are.
What about the Tingle games?
No cuccos are the worst enemy. Or the flower lady
I love the Storyteller's voice
Fallout fan too?
This guy can legit do documentaries for big tv channels with a voice like this.
Pretty sure it's Dennis Prager.
He's a great storyteller
I wish Vaati would make a return.
I’d love to see Vaati get a Winder Waker Ganondorf moment, where after a long time as a mindless monster, he suddenly has a moment of sincerity and clarity that catches you off guard
Literally Why
Vaati was never mindless.
Ninjaananas you know what I mean. He went from being a sort of humanoid character to a big ol’ evil cloud. I want to see the humanoid character come back, and I want to see a moment where that humanoid character is appealing to the player, where you sympathize with him.
Literally Why well out of all the villains, he is the one that got sealed for the longest amounts of time, and each time he was sealed and released, his mind was destroyed more and more. Its no surprise that at the end, he was no more than a mindless beast, his mind no more.
Literally Why
He had his demon form in Minish Cap, too. That form is not related to his mind but his power. He can transform at will and he was still sentient at the end of the timeline.
One of the voices in this video sounds so much like the narrator's voice in Star Fox 64.
G O O D L U C K !
I love your videos! You obviously work your ass off. I’m honestly impressed with how much research and work you put into these! Keep it up!!!
you made that Dark Beast Ganon fight sounds so much cooler than it is x)
Wow amazing video! I recently started playing Zelda Breath of the Wild and Instantly fell in love with the story, this basically sums up all the games I have missed, thank you, this helps me makes sense of everything that is happening in breath of the wild.
Feel like I’m watching a real documentary from the History Channel
Thanks!
I have an argument here. In the Adult timeline, the Hero of Time vanished after the defeat of Ganon, sent back into the past by Zelda's magic. This is why when Ganon broke free, no incarnation of the Hero appeared to face him. The Spirit of the Hero no longer existed in that timeline. The Hero of the Wind was not related to the other heroes at all. He was just a boy trying to do what he could.
Also, In the Child Timeline, Link Returned to the past, shutting the Gate of Time before Ganondorf could pass it. As a result, Ganondorf never touched the Triforce. Because of this, I suspect that the symbol on his hand in Twilight Princess was more a showing of Demise's influence rather than the actual Triforce of Power.
For the second one, no. Ganon was given the Triforce of Power by the Sages as a cruel joke, which went awry when it allowed Ganon to survive.
@@snbeast9545 I am pretty sure you have misinterpreted that scene. Ganondorf was not given the Triforce of Power by the Sages. That would be idiotic on a Catastrophic level. The statement the sages make is that, in a cruel twist of fate, as they were about to execute him, Ganondorf became one of those chosen by the Goddesses, a state that is commonly taken to be that he had somehow drawn the Triforce of Power to himself. The issue with that is that we know that Ganondorf never broke the Triforce in that Timeline, because the door was shut. He could not reach it (if he could, he would not have needed Link to get the stones and open the door for him in the first place), so he could not break it, and there was no way the sages would ever be dumb enough to hand an inmate such a powerful weapon. Foolish enough to Underestimate his power with Demise's curse backing him up, yes, but handing him even a part of the Triforce? Not a chance.
@@Trueknightofblades I don't know how Ganon got a part of the Triforce, then, but we do that Link has a part of it, since that's what saved him when he first entered the Twilight. Also, Ganon must have had some other way to survive his execution and some other way he could have appeared to Zant as a god.
@@snbeast9545 I maintain that being "Chosen by the Gods" does not need to be synonymous with "Having part of the Triforce". Yes, it bears the same symbology, but in each of the games where the Triforce was involved, it was called the Triforce, and one of the goals of the villain was to use it to make a wish. There is no indication of that in Twilight Princess, which is why I say it can easily be something else related to the Goddesses, since the Triforce is never shown to be active in that timeline.
Honestly, it could just as easily be the influence of the Spirit of the Hero, and the Power of Demise's Curse, or something else, unique to Twilight Princess.
@@Trueknightofblades ruclips.net/video/ksHrg_tSGqw/видео.html
Note how the Sages refer to Link as "You who possess the crest of the Goddesses." And, vastly stronger proof, note how, at 2:26, YOU SEE THE TRIFORCE OF POWER FLASH ON GANONDORF'S HAND. Refute that. Also, Demise never had the Triforce of Power (that we know of), so it's not symbolic of Demise.
That was sweet. Very accurate. As a zelda fan that's played through all of those, I really enjoyed it.
I'm only 2 mins in and thought I must have had Dirty Jobs or Mythbusters playing X"D He sounds SO MUCH LIKE THEIR NARRATORS :O
PS...Also, awesome work everyone, this is EPIC
My goodness, this is like watching a history Channel documentary. My respects for your hard work. How can I not like and subscribe for your detailed work.
“But that’s a story for another day!”
This was actually a really good video, I learned a lot. Now all I wanna do is just dig deeper into this lore lol
28:34 they seriously named their new guy ganondorf, what are they crazy? Lol the should have name him Larry or something
Did not expect the majestic voice of the Storyteller.
This voice makes it feel like I'm watch the History channel
Very intricate storyline. I've played every Zelda game except the NES and Game Boy versions. I swear I thought each game was somehow connected but not to this degree. Amazing.
I was always left reflecting on what Link (or the hero) had to go through to restore peace and all the characters involved. I marvel at the similarities to real life,like how we all have problems and how we can do good for others that they themselves aren't aware of.
The fact that Link or Zelda sometimes are played by characters that have little connection to Link and Zelda bothers me a bit.
I remember buying and starting Wind Waker and just being let down when I learned that the kids I thought was Link wasn't Link. Still loved the game.
Skull kid for super smash bros ultimate!!
YEET
YES!!!!!!
Ganon Tice if they add him I will main him
You got a plant
@@cggcggbutfake9189 i will main the plant!
18:38 New Hyrule Wasn't In Ruins. Actually once you restored the Spirit Tracks, the whole place was peaceful, only the Dark Realm was destroyed.
I mean, they did say Link from Oracles is a different generation to ALTTP, which is not, is the same Link. So...
No male Gerudo was born after ganondorf. This is stated in the games.
Except for the other Ganondorf.
I think that's only in the timelines where ganon was sealed and not killed. Since the gerudos only have one male for their entire population, and in the timelines where ganon didn't die he'd still be the one male gerudo and thus not allowing another to be born.
Well nabooru said a gerudo male is born every 100 years
@@luketube7207 yeah but another gerudo male can't be born if Ganondorf is still alive and he's in botw 2
@@HeroFromHyrule98 ok
Ganondorf: infests dungeons with many very powerful spirits and monsters and... an amoeba...
I feel like I'm watching Hansen vs. Predator with this commentary. Good stuff though, love this!
That Hussar in the thumbnail tho!
Very nice!
Nice video! One thing though: Majora's Mask cannot have originated from Termina because the Hyrule Encyclopedia states that Termina was a parallel universe created by Majora's Mask based on the memories of Skull Kid.
archer55mage and yet Nintendo themselves have proven their own timeline from the book to be wrong, so we can’t entirely rely on that info
It certainly says no such thing. You clearly saw a theory somewhere and rolled with it. Regardless, it's a bad source for "canon," as many moments on the official timeline have been brought into question since the book came out. You can kinda be left to interpret it any way you want, in almost any order as long as you keep skyward sword at the beginning and wind waker closer to the end. But the whole Termina being created by Majora is utterly incorrect. The only theory that even mentions Termina being a fabrication is from the "link is dead" theories, all proven wrong by Nintendo.
That is impossible because there are flash backs of the skull kid before he was possessed by Majora.
Seriosuly?! He narrates this too?! That's dope!!!
This should be on the history channel
better than Ancient Aliens
@@thegreygoblin5165 no that r 10/10 sho
I read something the other day that (using quotes and evidence from actual in-game dialogue) explained how a few of the non-Ganon villains, including Majora, were all corrupted Gods from before Demise even appeared. Anyone else know of this?
Begins watching...
Robert Stack was a Zelda fan? Who knew!
It would be cool but also terrifying if in the next Zelda game (most likely Botw 2) if the developers made Ganondorf more like Majora’s mask. It would make him a truly terrifying villain and would make the player want to defeat Ganondorf over and over.
This was a very good 44 minutes of my life used
Although a Zelda which resolves around time has already been done, it would be pretty cool to see a villain who somehow manipulated time in which Demise won the battle against Link. Not sure, I just really liked the idea of Demise and wouldn't mind seeing him as a villain again.
You know what I want? I want some villain other than Ganon to make a comeback. Because seriously, so far there's mostly been either Ganon or a one-shot villain, and there are a lot of problems with constantly using both. Face it, Ganon is becoming really over-saturated by now, and it would be nice to get a breath of fresh air over him. On the other hand, bringing in brand new villains is fine, but they don't really get to reach their full potential if they're only ever used in one game.
Someone like Vaati, Ghirahim, Zant, Majora, Bellum or even Yuga would be awesome to see make a return in a future Zelda game. And don't say that it's impossible for them to return. If Ganon can come back after being killed a couple dozen times then so can the others.
Flufux and the curse hasn't ended yet, Gannon was just one incarnation.
Botw was the first time in ages that ganon or Ganondorf was the big bad, unless you count Hyrule warriors.
I want GanonDORF to come back.
HeavyDonkeyKong, sure, but it's been even longer since Vaati's last appearance...who is pretty much the only other reoccurring villain in the series. Ganon may be a good villain and all, but his best showing have already been used.
If he died for good at the end of Wind Waker, I would have honestly been happy for it, because that was such a satisfying ending for him. But no, they had to bring him back again...mostly just to steal the spotlight from Zant, Vaati and Cia. Believe me when I say that we really don't need more Ganon.
Flufux to be fair, twilight princess was a different timeline, but I get what you mean. I think it would be cool if ganons influence was still felt, tho. Like the yiga clan from botw wanting to carry on his legacy.
liked it?
Loved it!
great job on this one guys!
especially with the deep voice narrators and voice overs ;)
I'm just amazed by the amount of research and dedication you guys put into your videos, you deserve waaaay more views and I'm sure you'll get there eventually but I'm happy you keep up your quality no matter who's watching, means you really enjoy what you're doing. Kudos to everyone involved in this and I hope you guys keep it up!
I love this video, confusing in parts but love it. Very enjoyable to watch
It's kinda sad to think that Gannon felt remorse for his actions, and maybe wasnt cruel in his intentions at least. But through time and being caught up in Demise's curse of reincarnation just devolve into a beast that couldn't do more than destroy on Demise's behalf
This is a phenomenal timeline. Your videos are fantastic
Really nice video! As a guy who only played BOTW everything prior it is new and interesting :)
Sad. Go back and play the rest. :)
I recommend you get into the series. Botw is my fav, but the series as a whole is masterfully crafted.
I'd recommend starting with ocarina of Time and/or a link to the past personally. I feel that they are the best jumping on points from a gameplay perspective. From a story perspective, ocarina of Time is likely the best jumping on point imo. And the old titles still hold up today imo. I like twilight princess and wind waker better than ocarina and link to the past, but ocarina and lini to the past are still great games.
I am thinking to play other games, but first i needt find cheap systems to play them on :) Don't realy want to use emulators.
Vladislav Klimaševskij ocarina has a 3ds port if your interested in that. I'm not sure about link to the past tho. Maybe it's on virtual console, but I havent really followed that as much as I should have.
HeavyDonkeyKong im on a lookout for cheap good condition 3ds all the time :) don't want to drop 200+ on it and really hope switches virtual console will bring some of the titles
Well done! Definatley helped me with the timeline.
Is.. is the deeper voice the narrator from Star Fox 64?
This was awesome, fantastic work guys
Ganon will return, he always does. The Zelda series will continue, more villains will show up time and time again. We may get old foes in the form of Aghinim, Ghirahim, Yuga and so many others. Darkness rises with light to meet it!
Robin McCormack Yuga was just the Lorulian Ganondorf, maybe a next game in Lorule "the Legend of Hilda".
I believe that Ghirahim is not dead and is the Trident of Ganon.
Aghanim was just the half of the soul of Ganon in disguise, an alter ego, since Ganondorf was also a sorcerer as he learn magic from his step mothers, the Twinrovas.
He used this form to break the seal of the Sages over the Dark World.
It would be dumb to have ganon reappear after BOTW since ganon only exist because of demises curse, and calamity ganon represents that curse, and is destroyed by link in botw
Little Narwhal No, Calamity Ganon represented Ganon's Hatred powered by Demise's curse. That said, I agree that it would be stupid for them to have either Ganon or Ganondorf show up in a game set after BotW in the timeline. But there are hundreds or even thousands of years before Ganon became Calamity Ganon in each of the timelines in which new games could be added with him as part of it. Post-BotW games will have new incarnations of Demise's curse, while the Pre-BotW games can still be the Ganon(dorf) show.
Ah, i thought calamity ganon was demise's curse in pure form, guess i was wrong.
If you actually pay attention after the fight in BotW Zelda state's that she only sealed Ganon again and that he WILL be back some day.
Ganondorf: I'm alive again now I will destroy the world
Link: Aww shit here we go again
How does everyone feel about Skull kid in the Realm?
Little did you know that we would be pitted against the terrifying Redead Ganon!
Ganon did nothing wrong.
Kids on the Internet today don't know what this is in reference to, lool
I didn't do a thing!
Heil Ganon!
@@PinkShades explain to me the reference
@@PinkShades oh thanks for responding
Holy god your voices are relaxing
Dude you sound like the narrator from star fox 64! Corneria. Fourth planet of the lylat system...
Whoa wait, Storyteller?? How did I not know about this channel?
Imagine a game wher Majora comes back and teams up with Gannon and possesses a new Skull Kid again.
imagine ganondorf wearing the majora's mask
Takeninake That'd be nuts
Ganondorf doesn't need Majora's Mask. He is more powerful than it.
Post-BotW, someone comes across the remains of Majora's Mask and the ancient ritual that was botched giving the Fallen timeline its Ganon. Then they carry out the ritual and again botch it resulting in another mindless Ganon. The person then somehow reconstitutes Majora's Mask which quickly takes over Ganon's powerful yet mindless body.
That is a lot of coincidence to find both the remains of Majora's Mask and the ancient ritual (texts?) that brought Ganon back to life in the Downfall timeline. Besides, at the end of MM, the mask no longer houses evil. Sounds like bad fan fiction more than something you would find in a Zelda game.
One of the narrators sounds like the narrator from Lylat Wars (Starfox 64)
giving me dem goosebumps
I swear the narrator in this video sounds like the guy who reads the opening to Star Fox 64! I love it! (Not Zeltik)
I love the deep voiced narrator's voice, it reminds me of the narrator from Tenchu 1 - 3 and the opening line from Soul Edge/Blade's opening
the narrator with the corny voice modulator really reminds me of the voice narrating the prologue in Starfox 64.
Majora is a Dragon that grants wishes but gets corrupted because the other two wishes were never wished for sinced Deity sealed his armor plating into a Mask and Majora dies dancing, which this part of the story is found in the Japanese manga.
The Manga isn't canon.
@@lancepate Well I guess the Manga was fan made then. :3
@@jeremygraffox7762 Non-canon doesn't mean fanmade; Link's Crossbow Training and the Tingle games generally aren't considered canon either.
@@jeremygraffox7762 ":3"
So the manga is a spin-off.
But one question remains.
How the heck did the Oracle games connect to Link's Awakening if Link set sail to Hyrule but got into a storm and in the Oracle games he is near Hyrule bordered by Death Mountain in both Holodrum and Labrynna. And if that doesn't convince you then how did Twinrova get the flame of despair if it just appeared in thin air.
I kinda want them to really mix the formula up for the next big Zelda. Maybe, just maybe - entertain the thought - actually make a reincarnation of Demise the protagonist and player character. The story is then about how everyone stands against you because you are fated to be evil and Zelda and Link are your enemies even though you don't really plan on getting your hands on the triforce or taking over the kingdom. The whole game could be a beautiful and tragic tale of an incarnation of evil born into a good intentioned character who everyone persecutes then for the past atrocities his previous incarnations comitted. Hell, the game could even end with the player character dying as usual and just weeping and accepting his fate even though he never had any bad intentions. This would also give us a whole new perspective on the world of the Zelda franchise since we could ally with usually bad intentioned creatures and races as the new incarnation of Demise. We could find out that maybe Bokoblins, Moblins and the Lizalfos aren't as primitive as we thought they were as the player befriends them and wins them over for his cause and they swear allegience to him etc.
SmilePlease sins of the father m8
I played all of these while I was so young and had no idea that this was happening. Good vid.
Hmm since seeing this I hope that the next Zelda game has a new villain instead of Ganon(or Ganondorf). Maybe the next villain could be the equivalent of Demise, Zant or Vaati! (Edit) And when I meant equivalent to Demise, I meant some villain that looks as badass or someone we haven’t seen before(not to say that Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time Ganondorf didn’t look badass. In fact Twilight Princess Ganondorf looked waayy badass)!
Chillin’Dylan 1999 But Ganondorf is Demise reincarnated...
Froilan Fuentes oh I meant someone that looks as badass as either one of them. A totally new villain we haven’t seen before
Demise could appear again!
Robin McCormack oh? That could be quite interesting. But how would that ever be accomplished? Denise’s residual energy was sealed in the Master Sword! Unless maybe there might be a route taken like in 4 Swords, how Vaati broke free of the four sword, that could be possible!
Froilan Fuentes Gannondorf is just one incarnation. The curse hasn't ended yet.
I love the older man's voice. Keep him narrating please. It sounds like the old DBZ narrator
Simply wishing the curse placed by Demise gone with the Triforce? Or is that not possible?
Demise is just as strong as the goddesses. He was around with them. The Triforce controls the things they made nothing else. So nah probably not.
@@cruxbucket Damn, really hoped for a way out
I doubt Ganondorf in Wind Waker was dead set on righting his wrongs. I imagine if that were the case, he would not resort to killing the sages and kidnapping people to see if they're Zelda's descendant. He would be a lot more subtle about it and only become more drastic once it becomes apparent to the Hero about who he is.
There is many villans, but...
who is the most powerful? I think Majora, as he PULLED A MOON OUT OF ORBIT
I disagree. The Cuccos are definitely stronger.
@@augustjonker1015 master khoga for the win
Zant with Ganondorf's powers is definitively stronger
Zant without the mask is definitely the most powerful being ever
Obviously the strongest villain are the cuccos
And now we have a mysterious Ganondorf
Why did they completely skip Links Awakening?
Jay Howard technically the nightmare thing was not a villain
Actually For completeness it would make sense even though it was all a dream.
@@MegaUnavalible It is an embodiment of an antagonistic force, how is it not a villain?
Convenience, so that they could say that Oracle Games were a totally different generation to ALTTP.
I think the cycle will never end.
I would love to see the next Zelda to be a sorta 1800s magic filled adventure.
And have Ganon be more Reasonable in his thinking up untill is true ententions are reviled.
Small idea, What if Demise grew tired of Ganon and decided to posses someone from the Hero's bloodline. Legend of Zelda TWIN OF THE TRIFORCE.
38:40 its rewind time
How do you know Vaati wasn't a previous incarnation of Demise's Hatred before Ganondorf?
Demise's Hatred is spread over the whole Demon Tribe(in the Original JP speech of Demise), and Vaati turned into a Demon after being corrupted by the darkness in men's hearts, so Vaati is also an incarnation of Demise's Hatred.
Even a simple Bokoblin bears some of Demise Hatred, since Demise is the father of all Demons.
Aidan Or Vaati is a particularly dangerous incarnation. Having Stolen 3/4 of Hylia's power which was never returned. No wonder Zelda keeps getting sealed and has to rely on the triforce of wisdom.
Andres Marrero Hylia's power ? No, it's not, Vaati wanted the Light Force, a minish-made artefact.
Nonoctoro that is incorrect actually. With how the light force manifests, who it manifests in, and how it operates, points to it being Hylia's power. Not a simple artifact.
Andres Marrero
In the end of the Minish Cap, all of Vaati's doing were undone because of Zelda's wish.
OMG, your videos so so good. The voice to the text boxes. It's all right :).