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PLEASE COME TO WORLD 367.. AT CORPOREAL BEAST.!!! there is a guy called ( doe giovanni ) just running a bot farm..!!! there is alot of corporeal beast bot farms in many worlds though...
i stopped playing osrs since 85% of whats online is probbly a bot edit : also game is wayyy to slow and had to play on 2 accounts at the same time to keep it interesting xp gain is so slow it takes over 2 years to complete the fucking game wich is stupid as fuck edit 2 : those t shirts are stupidly expensive dont buy them.
They really gotta add a notification whenever a report is successful and the bot is banned. I lose morale when I see that 95% of lms players are bots and they never get banned despite me reporting them all. But I especially lose morale when I see vids like this 😔
You want jagex to have good customer service? You're insane, that'll never happen. You gotta be an important youtuber with an audience to get anything done.
They used to do this so long ago back in classic. It takes so little effort for them to implement this again and it raises so much morale to see a report you made actually worked.
The soul wars thing is something known as Taxi games. Basicly a carrying service. All you have to do is follow the main person (the taxi), and he leads everyone to areas to capture to maintain your activity bar and give points at the end of the game. When you get to the boss, you stop following and attack the boss for some additional points and you're done. This is very useful for grinding the pet with very minimal effort, and also for xp for snowflake accounts. I've seen Rendi use it on his defence pure because it's his best xp/hr
@@Sahbab11 doesn't look great but ugliest pet? eh there's some pretty bad ones. Nightmare looks like a gas station crackhead. KQ flying version is pretty bad too.
I LOVE finding and crashing these. I love bot busting in general, but there's something even better knowing I'm hurting people who use RWT to skip content. I also usually end up with max points on the winning team. "Hooooooooooopppppppppp" "outtttttttttttttt" xD
@@iamjesus8fearme It's not RWT when you pay them In-Game with In-Game money to boost you. It's boosting. People have been boosting BB assault for like half a decade. I didn't want to do the mini game so I payed like 10m for them to do the work so I could get the fighter shirt for diaries. There's no rules in the game against using in-game incentivization to have people do things for you. You're paying for a service, in game. It all happens in game. It never leaves the game. Do you even know what RWT means?
@@toolittletoolate Sorry, I see how what I said can be mistaken. I mean accounts that are planning to get sold and using SW to level/get imbues. I see boosters doing it and I leave them be unless I see a lot of bots in the group. At that point, you're not much better than the botter.
The best solution: once Jagex flags the bots they let them continue running, they change the loot table for those accounts flagged so they can only get useless items, and then they attempt to use those flagged accounts and IPs to link other bots to the same IP/accounts. Someone running a ToB bot will be running other bots too, no reason they wouldn't diversify. Its a win win because they can catch more bots and the ToB bots wouldn't know they've been caught so theyll just keep wasting time and resources running that character instead of a new one that would actually be able to get the drops.
This would result in the bot getting only mega rares and all other players getting soda ash. Have you seen Jagex try to fix or update anything? Good idea in theory though
I know two of the different groups that run the soulwars games. One of them has a bad staking addiction and I get the impression may rwt. The other uses all the gp to pay for mega scales and leeches on his 10hp hcim.
Yeah dude STAKERS, people who gamble large sums of money are sitting in soul wars making 400K an hour on this boost world to fund their habit. Makes sense ???
I'm someone who had emailed you regarding the Soul Wars bots but it wasn't at Soul Wars - instead they were trading a mule account below the GE on a certain world. Not just 1 mule, but 2 of them ended up showing up and the 2nd mule traded the 1st mule to get something. It was an obvious bot farm because they each had hundreds of thousands of zeal and wore the same outfit, with the same silly name and there were probably 50+ accounts. Normal people won't really have 50+ accounts just to farm Soul Wars.
I found and reported a farm of bots killing lizard men shamans in the lizard men temples. The usernames all used the same naming structure and were across multiple worlds.
The solution to bots in runescape is to start mandating a digital ID where creating an account is tied to the person's verified identity IRL. This can be done privately using zero knowledge proofs and start having control over which accounts are connected to individual botters. Once one bot is banned, the player is banned.
Instead of actually doing something against bots, jagex bright idea is to nerf rewards for stuff, as if real players dont suffer enough with all these bots, they make it worse for them. Jagex the corrupted strikes again
I've said it so many times that more action needs to be done about bots because they're everywhere now i've made posts everywhere about it and instead of admitting there's an issue people just act oblivious to it or relentlessly kiss the ass of Jagex pretending they already do everything about it that's possible. Total bullsh*t excuse my french the sooner people open their eyes and realize the game needs drastic action about bots the sooner we'll get the game we love back. I don't think that will ever happen now it's too far gone and Jagex are way past the point of caring and have given up to allow them to bot all they want sadly.
@@DTM93 no your right it for sure is a problem. but the only way to fight against bots is to attack RWT. OSRS is doing very good for itself and with that more and more players join. those players look at the price of a bond. and realize with a single google search there is 10 websites selling 4x that amount of gold for less money. why on earth would u buy a bond that goes for 11 mil if u can fetch 45mil instead so fighting the bots just gets harder and harder. for every ban wave they do gold farmers have 100 new accounts ready to go. also i think jagex bot detection is @ss. pardon my french but i see 12 year old andy's getting perm banned for auto klicking those 5 mage lvls yet there 5 zulrah bots per world XD
Jagex knows bots keep the game alive. We are all adults, we don't have time to waste gathering resources in the hundreds of thousands for training one skill.
@@joker432 Idk man it seems like most people just don't know how to manage their time or want instant gratification. Runescape is the exact opposite of instant gratification so the people with money waste their money paying for things they could do themselves. There's a lot that can be done in runescape with minimal effort that people pay for. It's less that people don't have time and likely more that people find the things they need to do to get where they want boring.
@@joker432 I don't know who you mean by, "we"... Are you admitting that you bot and you're projecting that on to everyone else to justify you cheating? I'm 29 with a full time job and a girlfriend and I have a late game ironman. I've never needed to use bots, because I enjoy the game. If you don't enjoy the grind, don't bot: just play a different game.
So many bots doing blood runes. All with around 1400-1500 total, 200-500 guardians of the rift games for the runecrafting set and 93 agility for the shortcuts. Some have slightly lower agility and always eat and then drop agility pie dishes in the exact same spot
Come nex's bank and stay on any world for couple minutes u will see many bots login in for a secound and immediately log out cause they see u, u need to be quick and right click them so u got their nickname. I reported this bots everyday when im searching for teams and the problem is that im checking for example bots which i reported months ago and they have thosunds nex killed and still are not banned, okey i know, in this game are so many bots and its impossible to ban them all, but its one of the best money per h if not the best and they didnt get banned for a months its rediciolous
I've said it so many times that more action needs to be done about bots because they're everywhere now i've made posts everywhere about it and instead of admitting there's an issue people just act oblivious to it or relentlessly kiss the ass of Jagex pretending they already do everything about it that's possible. Total bullsh*t excuse my french the sooner people open their eyes and realize the game needs drastic action about bots the sooner we'll get the game we love back. I don't think that will ever happen now it's too far gone and Jagex are way past the point of caring and have given up to allow them to bot all they want sadly.
Idk what corner of the internet you’re in where you’re finding people defending jagex. I’ve never seen a single person brain dead enough to think that jagex is actually doing everything they can to ban bots. They aren’t. They purposely let them roam free because they bloat the player count which looks good for investors. Jagex only bans the ones that make a huge difference to the economy (like the CoX bots getting constant purples driving the price of rares into the dirt). I’ve been doing barrows on my iron for months and I’ve seen the same fucking 13k kc bot on w485 the entire time. I reported it so many times and nothing happened so I just leave it alone and consider it a friend now since I see it every single time I go 🤣
@@Shiestey "I’ve never seen a single person brain dead enough to think that jagex is actually doing everything they can to ban bots." Reddit bro it's full of those idiots bum licking them denying it's an issue. It pisses me off too i see the same 99 hunter etc bots the same 120m rc xp bots it's a disgrace reporting does nothing.
It wouldn't surprise me if Jagex actually does have a honestly working bot banning system that they will never implement because the bots bloat the player count. If they did then over half of their playerbase would be gone in an hour 😂
Jagex aren't doing much if anything about the bots, just go to lunar island bank and u will see an endless line of vorkath bots with around 41 slayer and max combat stats, some with 50k+ vorkath kills and no other boss kc. obv bots and nothing being done about them.
Those accs are pr9lly buying a massive amount of bonds for all the other bots that they are being ran with so jagex don't ban them , also at this point I'm thinkin jagex runs their own bots just to buy bond they make the company millions a month and I bet if they reach a x amount quota they prolly get big bonuses a month
COX always had bots but it was risky to do because jagex had an eye on it, that changed. i told it many times jagex made it REALLY easy to bot in the games in recent years. - your friendly botter. Edit: also if you want how easy, i give you a tip F2p yew log farms.
@@ivog2256 Well i did bot on my main account when i started (i only had 1 account at that time) now i got 6 main accounts 1 played myself the other 5 are botted to max, i never caught a ban on any of my bots i got a warning ONCE when i started and was still learing how to write stable scripts that i dont have to touch, now i own entire farms and automated the account creation i sell the accounts when im done with them and while i my farms are active i already bot the next generation for my projects up, its a circle at this point.
They need to start doing a sort of shadowban for bots where they just throw them onto a god awful loot table. Botters would never know and just think they're getting terrible RNG
With that bit pray flicking the entire time while perfectly moving and never really taking unnecessary damage, I’m not sure how it’s not just the easiest thing to detect and ban
It is easy, they just refuse to implement those systems because they all bots would be auto-banned and their sub numbers would no longer be artificially inflated.
@@Lollaksyotuubeeh not really. I've played since Aug 2001, over 20 years jagex stance on botting has never changed. Was a Pmod for 4 years as well, would personally report 100s and see little action taken. If jagex don't care, why should we?
Just logged in for the 1st time since Christmas and found my 200 hour character banned for “macro/botting” I’ve never once done either so I’m pretty pissed :/ apparently happened to a lot of people in January? I play every few months for nostalgia so only just noticed :’( last thing I did in the game was that ice skating chekpoint Christmas event in December then was banned near the end of jan. Would this be a false positive to the bot detector or was my account hacked and used for botting??
appeal, if you were compromised and are telling the truth you will be unbanned. Botters use proxies on their accounts to achieve the same thing, they run a proxy and if they get banned claim they were compromised and get unbanned, ive heard of people doing this up to 10 times on the same account.
Im a friend of that soul wars clan, and they are not bot. They play legit one person per 8-10 account manually moving each account one by one. They have higher level accounts with bis gear to pk anyone thats not part of the group. Follow the taxi rules, and you will be fine.
AYOOO idk if you read these, but there's a MASSIVE corp botfarm going on world 351. I teleported to Rimmington house portal on accident and there's at least 100 bots teleporting there to go into someone's house after they do a corp kill. All with more than 1k corp kc already
Idk when you started playing, but back in the day I crafted Nature runes for money. They were around 500-700 each, depending on who you were selling them to. That was before the abyss, after the abyss came out they went down a little, but not too much still got around 400-550 if I remember right, I quit playing a couple months after the abyss came out.
SirPugger, you do not realize the viscous cycle that goes on. Sure the account can get banned, but it was hacked or phished in the first place. When the owner of the account reaches out to Jagex they will get their account unbanned or they wont. If they do the account owner will most likely have a cleaned account with low amount of GP on it. The amount of people who change their password to something they have previously used or is already leaked is mind numbing. So they recover their accounts. It gets unbanned. Then it gets hacked again. Repeat over and over.
Not that its very serious, but a little while ago, i got a konar task to kill blue dragons in the ogre city dungeon and there was 100% a bot farm in there. several randomly named accounts all wearing the same gear on any world i logged in on.
How can I get jagex to look in to my account it got hacked and who ever hacked it botted it to the ground. Recovered my account just to see they filled in the one time request for bann appeal
The reason someone isn't taking care of this at Jagex is because someone basically is the replacement "Mod Jed" right now. Including the zombie pirate update that they had to then make a justification blog post about "we're not supporting bots" It's only a matter of time before we find out who the replacement "Mod Jed" is that's f'ing all of this up
I think the bigger reason is cause the bots inflate the player count which looks good for investors. It wouldn't surprise me if jagex actually has a banning system that would work perfectly, but won't implement as it would decimate the number of players
The economy is one of the best parts of RS, but it’s such a shame this hasn’t been solved in decades of play. Idk if they just can’t figure it out, or they don’t care as long as the bots pay membership.. but I feel like it’s solvable. Any smart nerds confirm or deny possibility?
They won't ever truly fix it because it helps boost player count which improves business. I'm betting they actually have a competent system that won't ever be put into use because their numbers would plummet.
We need people like Sir Pugger and all of you RUclipsrs to make a coalition, and to have the ability to make a difference. Because we are the ones who really truly deep down care about the game, and the vast majority of the players are people we need to keep safe from what they don't know..
Pressure needs put on jagex to actually do something. They do not allow people to buy gold. So why continue to allow these bots to infest our entire game?
Just to correct you about your profit/day stats for those TBOW bots. Drop chance is a little different that what you described. Lets say 1/1000 drop rate, that means at 1000 kills, you would have about a 66% chance to have had drop within that time. So while the chance is still >50%, over a 100 day period, the bots would average about 60-70 TBows. Still a ton of money but less profitable than what you are implying. This goes for all drop rates btw, and why its so common to go "over" the drop rate
it would be easy to have a ML model to spot bots, they simply don't want to tackle the problem. It's profitable there are no incentive to attack all bots, they just need to make sure it doesn't go out of control. The biggest issue is the people buying gold for money irl, if there's no demand there won't be any offer.
Some of these groups are definitely bots, you can just hop a few worlds and find them. The ones I run into usually speak Hindi and have prayer switching bots.
@@catra56 Not sure why you're getting defensive. I'm not saying ZealGains uses bots. When they speak, it's probably the service seller trying to get the buyer to hop worlds because other people are in it. They have to have private off so people don't follow them and they might not want to use discord. ZealGains may be legit, but the issue Pugger is trying to show definitely exists.
@@iamjesus8fearme lol, jesus. you are just claming stuff that isnt even true... stop telling your self that people get deffensive, just because they dont aggree All i am saying is that the ones in his video is zealgains nothing else.
Just go there and hop down the list. Sometimes they'll be in an active game, but I don't personally think it's worth waiting around. Just keep hopping until you find one. Note down the world and time.
The whole sunfire splinter situation is created for botters. There's no reasonable alternative for where to get sunfire splinters, each main that gets a quiver needs to buy 150,000 of them with most successful runs only giving you a couple thousand (before accounting for the other uses for splinters), and most mains won't do more than 1 kc of the Colosseum. Makes you wonder which Jmod has the bot farm
ive seen a lot of really shitty bots, or super good trolls that really commit to a bit. dude at priff iron ore, was bashing away until suddenly he moved north too far, now it looks like "hes off track" idk how else to describe it, he clicks in a pattern, click north (click 1 rock, click 2 rock, click rock 3,(til invy is full)) click south to bank, click deposit all. i witnessed him click too far north, then he 1 2 3 stepped right out the mining area up into the trees in the middle of town. where he stayed for 2 raids and a star because i came back and he was still in the trees. another dude was just yesterday, did another "off track" situation, at the anvil, then i see a dude walk up against the varr bank wall and thats when he broke loose, now hes stuck in a loop of trying to bank but also zero out on the anvil that he cant locate even tho he walked right next to it 4 times. eventually he back and forth walked himself into varrok castle. i got him to click outside the wall of the castle heading toward the wildy but one of the stupid castle doors closed on him and started him all over so instead i shut the doors on him and told him he was the most commited troll ive ever seen
This has nothing to do with the video brother, but I just wanna let you know that the launcher is currently bugged. If you have a Jagex account - DO NOT SIGN OUT. I and many others on Reddit and personal friends are stuck in a Captcha loop when trying to open the Jagex launcher. I've sent emails and haven't heard anything back yet but I'm just warning you and others not to log out of their Jagex accounts on your PC until this is fixed. This issue is PC only as of right now, mobile is still able to use the Captcha without an issue.
This is what kills me about jagex. These botters are using this as their livelihood. If jagex could ban them rapidly enough for only like a month it would financially ruin half these people. The whole arms race argument is stupid with how much the company makes. Its clear whats going on
Not necessarily true. I bot for fun; I don't even transfer gold to my main account. Botting something like a boss is just as fun as doing it on your main account. It's really cool to see some script beat a boss so easily after you struggling with it. Then you bring in the lower levels, and see how low you can go. Or sometimes you bot it so you can learn the strategy. It's not all soulless geepee-making.
There seems to be a ton of bots doing Vorkath, constantly seeing them teleport to Lunar Isle, banking, talking to the next banker to get kicked off the isle, and then running over and taking the boat that goes to Vorkath. Some of them have different gear, and have slightly different paths, but its all just repetitive behavior.
@@sprungs no, zealgains are people. They do collaborate with Royals to get multiple worlds going, but it all seems to be clicked manually. Otherwise games could go much faster than waiting on the Royals guys to click out of the portal one account at a time lol
only problem with your gp calcs is that some of the bots are getting banned before they get a rare drop like a tbow, which accounts for a lot of that gp/hr.
world 489 has a skeletal wyvern bot farm 110-122 combat all in torags with whip and mind sheilds along with minimal stats for ele workshop and 72 slayer
Can they track which tiles you click on? I mean they could track that and there is no way that normal player does same tile click all over. Then again do bots click on same tiles?🤔
There’s an actually absurd amount of Vyre pickpocket bots right now. Every world has 2-3 bots in it. Most running 24 hours a day. They all have over 99 thieving and many are 110+. I can only imagine how many blood shards have come into the game from them.
Hey Sirpugger pls investigate the vorkath bots at free world ge. Those bots have like 32k kills for vorkath and the trade a low account then log off. They wear full bandos,dfs and dragon hunter lance.
Just wait till the AI bots are released they are/will be 100% undetectable unless multiple are in one location.. but you can set it every account doing something different. These accounts can play 2-3 hours and have human movement chat like you based off Facebook data. Use data set from your regular game play plus use data set from the hundreds of bots. Emphasizing your data set.. 100% undetectable with current detection. However this is hours of training.. and currently would need higher processing costing a lot or you could make using a virtual server like AWS.. 1-4 accounts possible on cheap end but the ROI will be non existent
@6:40 Venezuelans and Pakistanis. I know quite a few of them, a buddy played 5 accounts at once. They don't like outsiders in because they don't pk eachother
It’s not big but I feel there’s a lot of bots at blast furnace, every time I hop to a world someone mid run logs out or hops world themselves or sometimes they hop to my world and leave a dynamite and leave😮
More reason to do away with bonds, the clever and sneaky method that makes this game pay-to-win, earning Jagex heaps of cash. Surely it would make these end game bots more difficult to make/use. I’ve always maintained Jagex need bots bc they make them more money. I know the devs don’t want it, but the wallets higher up certainly do.
if you remove bonds, a ton of actual players will drop the game. unless you remove the membership as well, casual people would rather play the game for free and sink some gp into bonds than actually pay for the funny early 2000's pixelated point and click
@@neilu7132 Yea they'll never remove them, and sure some players would quit bc of that, but the game will loose more players bc they can't buy their scythes/tbows/shadows for hundreds of pounds rather than bc they can't pay £5 a month
Im always so excited when i hear about a new bot. Its always awesome to see how these coders crack these challenges. My runescape days are behind me but i love seeing the automation. Plus, i have never cared if prices plummet. Im not a gate keeper of the end game
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PLEASE COME TO WORLD 367.. AT CORPOREAL BEAST.!!!
there is a guy called ( doe giovanni ) just running a bot farm..!!!
there is alot of corporeal beast bot farms in many worlds though...
i stopped playing osrs since 85% of whats online is probbly a bot
edit : also game is wayyy to slow and had to play on 2 accounts at the same time to keep it interesting xp gain is so slow it takes over 2 years to complete the fucking game wich is stupid as fuck
edit 2 : those t shirts are stupidly expensive dont buy them.
Wonder when this guy is going to make a video without a sponsor. Just leaching the viewers at this point...
They really gotta add a notification whenever a report is successful and the bot is banned. I lose morale when I see that 95% of lms players are bots and they never get banned despite me reporting them all. But I especially lose morale when I see vids like this 😔
You want jagex to have good customer service? You're insane, that'll never happen. You gotta be an important youtuber with an audience to get anything done.
They used to do this so long ago back in classic. It takes so little effort for them to implement this again and it raises so much morale to see a report you made actually worked.
Pmods have a page in the Pmod section of the forums which shows status of current reports, but its not even updated correctly.
95% of the whole game is bots why you suprised?
Totally dude been wanting this for ages
The fact that even the bot types out “fuck” when getting an arcane is so real
Lol no that was me
@@WKPlugins can i get some gp for teaching u solo cox? my mains a bit poor and i dont wanna get kicked out of my clan
The soul wars thing is something known as Taxi games. Basicly a carrying service. All you have to do is follow the main person (the taxi), and he leads everyone to areas to capture to maintain your activity bar and give points at the end of the game. When you get to the boss, you stop following and attack the boss for some additional points and you're done. This is very useful for grinding the pet with very minimal effort, and also for xp for snowflake accounts. I've seen Rendi use it on his defence pure because it's his best xp/hr
It’s the ugliest pet in the game by far who tf would want that pet? Looks like a RS3 reject pet and doesn’t visually belong in OSRS at all
@@Sahbab11 doesn't look great but ugliest pet? eh there's some pretty bad ones. Nightmare looks like a gas station crackhead. KQ flying version is pretty bad too.
I LOVE finding and crashing these. I love bot busting in general, but there's something even better knowing I'm hurting people who use RWT to skip content. I also usually end up with max points on the winning team. "Hooooooooooopppppppppp" "outtttttttttttttt" xD
@@iamjesus8fearme It's not RWT when you pay them In-Game with In-Game money to boost you. It's boosting. People have been boosting BB assault for like half a decade. I didn't want to do the mini game so I payed like 10m for them to do the work so I could get the fighter shirt for diaries. There's no rules in the game against using in-game incentivization to have people do things for you. You're paying for a service, in game. It all happens in game. It never leaves the game. Do you even know what RWT means?
@@toolittletoolate Sorry, I see how what I said can be mistaken. I mean accounts that are planning to get sold and using SW to level/get imbues. I see boosters doing it and I leave them be unless I see a lot of bots in the group. At that point, you're not much better than the botter.
The best solution: once Jagex flags the bots they let them continue running, they change the loot table for those accounts flagged so they can only get useless items, and then they attempt to use those flagged accounts and IPs to link other bots to the same IP/accounts. Someone running a ToB bot will be running other bots too, no reason they wouldn't diversify. Its a win win because they can catch more bots and the ToB bots wouldn't know they've been caught so theyll just keep wasting time and resources running that character instead of a new one that would actually be able to get the drops.
This would result in the bot getting only mega rares and all other players getting soda ash. Have you seen Jagex try to fix or update anything?
Good idea in theory though
As a botter: proxies, virtual machines and hwid spoofing is a thing :p
@@practicaltoon6589 Found the uselss virgin
lol u act if jagex actually cares to do that
These bots use proxies and SMART clients.
I know two of the different groups that run the soulwars games. One of them has a bad staking addiction and I get the impression may rwt. The other uses all the gp to pay for mega scales and leeches on his 10hp hcim.
how we do join them?
@@daltsfishing via the login mechanic
Yeah dude STAKERS, people who gamble large sums of money are sitting in soul wars making 400K an hour on this boost world to fund their habit. Makes sense
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Fkn oath up the mega scales. Sounds like u might be jealous idk
This is what happens when 75% of your player base is bots and you allow it. Can’t be surprised.
This is what happens when you make an idle game and expect people not to play with autoclickers.
@@cooldud7071 This is what ends up happening when players are allowed to play on more than 1 account at a time
@@joker123796this is what happens when it happens
When jagex removed free trade and the wilderness all bots were gone... Money is a powerful incentive that always breeds crime/rule breaking
@@shinji1264they also lost every real player lmao
I'm someone who had emailed you regarding the Soul Wars bots but it wasn't at Soul Wars - instead they were trading a mule account below the GE on a certain world. Not just 1 mule, but 2 of them ended up showing up and the 2nd mule traded the 1st mule to get something. It was an obvious bot farm because they each had hundreds of thousands of zeal and wore the same outfit, with the same silly name and there were probably 50+ accounts. Normal people won't really have 50+ accounts just to farm Soul Wars.
The wildy is a cesspool right now. Auto Pray switch bots at pretty much every location.
I found and reported a farm of bots killing lizard men shamans in the lizard men temples. The usernames all used the same naming structure and were across multiple worlds.
how do you feel knowing your reports do literally nothing?
The solution to bots in runescape is to start mandating a digital ID where creating an account is tied to the person's verified identity IRL. This can be done privately using zero knowledge proofs and start having control over which accounts are connected to individual botters. Once one bot is banned, the player is banned.
Identity thiefs laugh at this dumb idea
Jagex has to do something about the revenant bots! It's almost impossible to kill any revenants, there's 3-4 bots in every word at every location wtf.
Instead of actually doing something against bots, jagex bright idea is to nerf rewards for stuff, as if real players dont suffer enough with all these bots, they make it worse for them.
Jagex the corrupted strikes again
Real players should stop buying gold from those bots and goldfarmers
@@Zehiret impossible, they too busy gambling it over at runecasino's and DMing lmao
I've said it so many times that more action needs to be done about bots because they're everywhere now i've made posts everywhere about it and instead of admitting there's an issue people just act oblivious to it or relentlessly kiss the ass of Jagex pretending they already do everything about it that's possible.
Total bullsh*t excuse my french the sooner people open their eyes and realize the game needs drastic action about bots the sooner we'll get the game we love back.
I don't think that will ever happen now it's too far gone and Jagex are way past the point of caring and have given up to allow them to bot all they want sadly.
@@DTM93 no your right it for sure is a problem. but the only way to fight against bots is to attack RWT. OSRS is doing very good for itself and with that more and more players join. those players look at the price of a bond. and realize with a single google search there is 10 websites selling 4x that amount of gold for less money. why on earth would u buy a bond that goes for 11 mil if u can fetch 45mil instead so fighting the bots just gets harder and harder. for every ban wave they do gold farmers have 100 new accounts ready to go. also i think jagex bot detection is @ss. pardon my french but i see 12 year old andy's getting perm banned for auto klicking those 5 mage lvls yet there 5 zulrah bots per world XD
sadly quite few player base is bots and they pay money to bond up say quite few bot accounts, so of course jagex wont stop them.
Love a SirPugger vid, it's all about the content, no intro, abrupt endings, spicy content
There's no way Jagex isn't just allowing bots to live. They must make money from bot loot.
Jagex knows bots keep the game alive. We are all adults, we don't have time to waste gathering resources in the hundreds of thousands for training one skill.
@@joker432 I maxed my first account while working 50 hours week and had a girlfriend to boot. Adults have some time too
@@joker432 Idk man it seems like most people just don't know how to manage their time or want instant gratification. Runescape is the exact opposite of instant gratification so the people with money waste their money paying for things they could do themselves. There's a lot that can be done in runescape with minimal effort that people pay for. It's less that people don't have time and likely more that people find the things they need to do to get where they want boring.
@@joker432 I don't know who you mean by, "we"... Are you admitting that you bot and you're projecting that on to everyone else to justify you cheating? I'm 29 with a full time job and a girlfriend and I have a late game ironman. I've never needed to use bots, because I enjoy the game. If you don't enjoy the grind, don't bot: just play a different game.
@@Stickmanzed yea, you were able to max it because of all the resources that you bought from bots…. I see critical thinking isn’t your forte.
runescape issue 20 years later... still the same
So sad to see bots at the chambers. Cox is my favorite acivity in the game, and seeing it is botted is so sad.
Same man
Just be an ironman then... muh integrity
95% of the whole game is bots why you suprised?
@@MrQuadGameproof please
@@kjax139he doesnt have any 🤣 another idiot osrs doomer touting the end, theres a lof em but its not even close to 50% tbh
So many bots doing blood runes. All with around 1400-1500 total, 200-500 guardians of the rift games for the runecrafting set and 93 agility for the shortcuts. Some have slightly lower agility and always eat and then drop agility pie dishes in the exact same spot
thats a classic move with the granite gloves. People who write bots or run bots for the game and dont even know about combat bracelets lol.
If you mean the bots using Dinh's bulwark the equipment makes sense.
Come nex's bank and stay on any world for couple minutes u will see many bots login in for a secound and immediately log out cause they see u, u need to be quick and right click them so u got their nickname. I reported this bots everyday when im searching for teams and the problem is that im checking for example bots which i reported months ago and they have thosunds nex killed and still are not banned, okey i know, in this game are so many bots and its impossible to ban them all, but its one of the best money per h if not the best and they didnt get banned for a months its rediciolous
I've said it so many times that more action needs to be done about bots because they're everywhere now i've made posts everywhere about it and instead of admitting there's an issue people just act oblivious to it or relentlessly kiss the ass of Jagex pretending they already do everything about it that's possible.
Total bullsh*t excuse my french the sooner people open their eyes and realize the game needs drastic action about bots the sooner we'll get the game we love back.
I don't think that will ever happen now it's too far gone and Jagex are way past the point of caring and have given up to allow them to bot all they want sadly.
Idk what corner of the internet you’re in where you’re finding people defending jagex. I’ve never seen a single person brain dead enough to think that jagex is actually doing everything they can to ban bots. They aren’t. They purposely let them roam free because they bloat the player count which looks good for investors. Jagex only bans the ones that make a huge difference to the economy (like the CoX bots getting constant purples driving the price of rares into the dirt). I’ve been doing barrows on my iron for months and I’ve seen the same fucking 13k kc bot on w485 the entire time. I reported it so many times and nothing happened so I just leave it alone and consider it a friend now since I see it every single time I go 🤣
@@Shiestey "I’ve never seen a single person brain dead enough to think that jagex is actually doing everything they can to ban bots."
Reddit bro it's full of those idiots bum licking them denying it's an issue.
It pisses me off too i see the same 99 hunter etc bots the same 120m rc xp bots it's a disgrace reporting does nothing.
It wouldn't surprise me if Jagex actually does have a honestly working bot banning system that they will never implement because the bots bloat the player count. If they did then over half of their playerbase would be gone in an hour 😂
We might as well join them since we cant beat them and jagex clearly doesnt give a flying fuck anymore.
Jagex aren't doing much if anything about the bots, just go to lunar island bank and u will see an endless line of vorkath bots with around 41 slayer and max combat stats, some with 50k+ vorkath kills and no other boss kc. obv bots and nothing being done about them.
As somone who plays on a private server I can confirm it's easy to make the bots go away jamflex won't do it because the world's will be emptier
@@mattbeckley9483so what's the solution?
Those accs are pr9lly buying a massive amount of bonds for all the other bots that they are being ran with so jagex don't ban them , also at this point I'm thinkin jagex runs their own bots just to buy bond they make the company millions a month and I bet if they reach a x amount quota they prolly get big bonuses a month
COX always had bots but it was risky to do because jagex had an eye on it, that changed. i told it many times jagex made it REALLY easy to bot in the games in recent years.
- your friendly botter.
Edit: also if you want how easy, i give you a tip F2p yew log farms.
Do you have a main account or do you just run bots? Wouldn’t you be worried of your main getting banned
@@ivog2256 Well i did bot on my main account when i started (i only had 1 account at that time) now i got 6 main accounts 1 played myself the other 5 are botted to max, i never caught a ban on any of my bots i got a warning ONCE when i started and was still learing how to write stable scripts that i dont have to touch, now i own entire farms and automated the account creation i sell the accounts when im done with them and while i my farms are active i already bot the next generation for my projects up, its a circle at this point.
What site do you use?
@@Naraxis1433 sorry i got a main rule, never give information to others when it comes to money.
Can I please have some gp man?
At 0:45, the claim of instant bans is inaccurate. From my own experience, using the right robots at ToA doesn't lead to immediate bans.
What do you do when you want to loot, just drop important stuff?
They need to start doing a sort of shadowban for bots where they just throw them onto a god awful loot table. Botters would never know and just think they're getting terrible RNG
Ayy we had the same idea!
Welp shit I'm not a bot and I think they've already done that to me
Theres a Salarin the Twisted botfarm in Yanille Agility Dungeon
With that bit pray flicking the entire time while perfectly moving and never really taking unnecessary damage, I’m not sure how it’s not just the easiest thing to detect and ban
yeah you'd think that but it's been going on for YEARS like this
Mine got 10k kc and toped the ironman charts before I stopped, detection only matters when Jagex is loosing money.
It is easy, they just refuse to implement those systems because they all bots would be auto-banned and their sub numbers would no longer be artificially inflated.
@@xoxoDonkey Sad
@@Lollaksyotuubeeh not really.
I've played since Aug 2001, over 20 years jagex stance on botting has never changed. Was a Pmod for 4 years as well, would personally report 100s and see little action taken.
If jagex don't care, why should we?
Why did the raids bot type at the end of the clip?
They just need to ban anyone that can click the exact prayer pixel like that 50,000 times a raid lol
I don’t think jagex will ever beat bots which is very sad for our game
I never realized how cute SirPugger was! Golden on the inside, gorgeous on the outside!
Just logged in for the 1st time since Christmas and found my 200 hour character banned for “macro/botting” I’ve never once done either so I’m pretty pissed :/ apparently happened to a lot of people in January? I play every few months for nostalgia so only just noticed :’( last thing I did in the game was that ice skating chekpoint Christmas event in December then was banned near the end of jan. Would this be a false positive to the bot detector or was my account hacked and used for botting??
appeal, if you were compromised and are telling the truth you will be unbanned. Botters use proxies on their accounts to achieve the same thing, they run a proxy and if they get banned claim they were compromised and get unbanned, ive heard of people doing this up to 10 times on the same account.
How are there even bots if jagex accounts are mandatory on account creation now.
Im a friend of that soul wars clan, and they are not bot. They play legit one person per 8-10 account manually moving each account one by one. They have higher level accounts with bis gear to pk anyone thats not part of the group. Follow the taxi rules, and you will be fine.
the name of it is zealgains no need to hide their name. and yes they bot. anyone with a pair of eyes will see how obvious it is.
AYOOO idk if you read these, but there's a MASSIVE corp botfarm going on world 351. I teleported to Rimmington house portal on accident and there's at least 100 bots teleporting there to go into someone's house after they do a corp kill. All with more than 1k corp kc already
Idk when you started playing, but back in the day I crafted Nature runes for money. They were around 500-700 each, depending on who you were selling them to. That was before the abyss, after the abyss came out they went down a little, but not too much still got around 400-550 if I remember right, I quit playing a couple months after the abyss came out.
they are 150 each now. normal was 300-400
SirPugger, you do not realize the viscous cycle that goes on. Sure the account can get banned, but it was hacked or phished in the first place. When the owner of the account reaches out to Jagex they will get their account unbanned or they wont. If they do the account owner will most likely have a cleaned account with low amount of GP on it. The amount of people who change their password to something they have previously used or is already leaked is mind numbing. So they recover their accounts. It gets unbanned. Then it gets hacked again. Repeat over and over.
Not that its very serious, but a little while ago, i got a konar task to kill blue dragons in the ogre city dungeon and there was 100% a bot farm in there. several randomly named accounts all wearing the same gear on any world i logged in on.
How can I get jagex to look in to my account it got hacked and who ever hacked it botted it to the ground. Recovered my account just to see they filled in the one time request for bann appeal
i was afraid the background music wasnt added at the beginning. Makes the video more spooky 👀
The reason someone isn't taking care of this at Jagex is because someone basically is the replacement "Mod Jed" right now. Including the zombie pirate update that they had to then make a justification blog post about "we're not supporting bots"
It's only a matter of time before we find out who the replacement "Mod Jed" is that's f'ing all of this up
I think the bigger reason is cause the bots inflate the player count which looks good for investors. It wouldn't surprise me if jagex actually has a banning system that would work perfectly, but won't implement as it would decimate the number of players
Great vid man hopefully Jagex keeps the ban hammer tight on the raids especially.
Sir pugger! The bots at the end might be doing the abyss rune thing for shards to make way more natures than you think! Look further into it!
Bots make up a large part of the games' revenue. Whose surprised?
When Osrs dies, the last "player" active on the game will be a bot.
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The economy is one of the best parts of RS, but it’s such a shame this hasn’t been solved in decades of play.
Idk if they just can’t figure it out, or they don’t care as long as the bots pay membership.. but I feel like it’s solvable. Any smart nerds confirm or deny possibility?
They won't ever truly fix it because it helps boost player count which improves business. I'm betting they actually have a competent system that won't ever be put into use because their numbers would plummet.
@@ciderhat2760 have wondered the same thing.
same thing as nikita from tarkov said. cheaters make money. why ban them?
Anyone know where I can download it?
WK plugins
How soon do I get a purple in toa at 150?
AD STARTS AT 3:03 AD ENDS AT 3:58
First clip raids bot is also doing challenge mode in case you didn’t notice
where can I get this bot/?
We need people like Sir Pugger and all of you RUclipsrs to make a coalition, and to have the ability to make a difference. Because we are the ones who really truly deep down care about the game, and the vast majority of the players are people we need to keep safe from what they don't know..
Pressure needs put on jagex to actually do something. They do not allow people to buy gold. So why continue to allow these bots to infest our entire game?
What if Jagex blocks connection from third party softwares (besides runelite), wont this solve the bot problem??
Just to correct you about your profit/day stats for those TBOW bots. Drop chance is a little different that what you described. Lets say 1/1000 drop rate, that means at 1000 kills, you would have about a 66% chance to have had drop within that time. So while the chance is still >50%, over a 100 day period, the bots would average about 60-70 TBows. Still a ton of money but less profitable than what you are implying.
This goes for all drop rates btw, and why its so common to go "over" the drop rate
it would be easy to have a ML model to spot bots, they simply don't want to tackle the problem. It's profitable there are no incentive to attack all bots, they just need to make sure it doesn't go out of control. The biggest issue is the people buying gold for money irl, if there's no demand there won't be any offer.
the soulwars thing is a CC called ZealGains, and i think is not bots
Some of these groups are definitely bots, you can just hop a few worlds and find them. The ones I run into usually speak Hindi and have prayer switching bots.
@@iamjesus8fearme so the bots speak hindi? lol
sure
but the ones in this video is ZealGains.. used them my self, taxi for the pet
@@catra56 Not sure why you're getting defensive. I'm not saying ZealGains uses bots. When they speak, it's probably the service seller trying to get the buyer to hop worlds because other people are in it. They have to have private off so people don't follow them and they might not want to use discord. ZealGains may be legit, but the issue Pugger is trying to show definitely exists.
@@iamjesus8fearme lol, jesus. you are just claming stuff that isnt even true... stop telling your self that people get deffensive, just because they dont aggree
All i am saying is that the ones in his video is zealgains nothing else.
@@catra56 Sorry, just the "lol sure" seems defensive. And all I'm saying is that bot farms like this definitely exist.
can you look into the hallowed sepulchre bots? its out of control
how can i find the soul wars bot worlds?
Just go there and hop down the list. Sometimes they'll be in an active game, but I don't personally think it's worth waiting around. Just keep hopping until you find one. Note down the world and time.
GOLD prices are worth nothing. who cares about botting now. They have already ran the price of gold down from 1.15 to .14
The whole sunfire splinter situation is created for botters.
There's no reasonable alternative for where to get sunfire splinters, each main that gets a quiver needs to buy 150,000 of them with most successful runs only giving you a couple thousand (before accounting for the other uses for splinters), and most mains won't do more than 1 kc of the Colosseum.
Makes you wonder which Jmod has the bot farm
Anyone have the name of the COX bot or where to get it?
I’m asking for a friend
Apparently the video says it's WK Scripts in the footage
ive seen a lot of really shitty bots, or super good trolls that really commit to a bit. dude at priff iron ore, was bashing away until suddenly he moved north too far, now it looks like "hes off track" idk how else to describe it, he clicks in a pattern, click north (click 1 rock, click 2 rock, click rock 3,(til invy is full)) click south to bank, click deposit all. i witnessed him click too far north, then he 1 2 3 stepped right out the mining area up into the trees in the middle of town. where he stayed for 2 raids and a star because i came back and he was still in the trees.
another dude was just yesterday, did another "off track" situation, at the anvil, then i see a dude walk up against the varr bank wall and thats when he broke loose, now hes stuck in a loop of trying to bank but also zero out on the anvil that he cant locate even tho he walked right next to it 4 times. eventually he back and forth walked himself into varrok castle. i got him to click outside the wall of the castle heading toward the wildy but one of the stupid castle doors closed on him and started him all over so instead i shut the doors on him and told him he was the most commited troll ive ever seen
Sounds like shitty bots with stupid people piloting them sometimes.
That sunfire splinter price hurts my soul... That was my best money maker for a while now it's like half as good :(
This has nothing to do with the video brother, but I just wanna let you know that the launcher is currently bugged. If you have a Jagex account - DO NOT SIGN OUT. I and many others on Reddit and personal friends are stuck in a Captcha loop when trying to open the Jagex launcher.
I've sent emails and haven't heard anything back yet but I'm just warning you and others not to log out of their Jagex accounts on your PC until this is fixed. This issue is PC only as of right now, mobile is still able to use the Captcha without an issue.
What is this upload time?!?!
I've seen the soul wars thing as a boosting service
yup. sad ass clan named zealgains
at like 9:00 i had to check my game screen and see if someone hit the fuckin bandos door wth BONGGGGGGG
Why do they wait to ban any bots? always bothered me they wait for ban waves instead of just banning when they detect them. Is there a reason?
Why does the bot write "fuck" at 2:59 lol.
Still amuses me that people don't realize OSRS would of died years ago without bots
Could it be the same guy who created rhe colosseum bot 3 days after release?
No that’s Detuks, this is from WK Plugins
This is what kills me about jagex. These botters are using this as their livelihood. If jagex could ban them rapidly enough for only like a month it would financially ruin half these people. The whole arms race argument is stupid with how much the company makes. Its clear whats going on
Not necessarily true. I bot for fun; I don't even transfer gold to my main account. Botting something like a boss is just as fun as doing it on your main account. It's really cool to see some script beat a boss so easily after you struggling with it. Then you bring in the lower levels, and see how low you can go. Or sometimes you bot it so you can learn the strategy. It's not all soulless geepee-making.
@@didiervanhessen577You bot because you're a loser with too much time on his hands. Glow up buddy.
Huh, I had never thought about this perspective
There seems to be a ton of bots doing Vorkath, constantly seeing them teleport to Lunar Isle, banking, talking to the next banker to get kicked off the isle, and then running over and taking the boat that goes to Vorkath. Some of them have different gear, and have slightly different paths, but its all just repetitive behavior.
I don’t doubt there’s bots that do this but that’s just the normal way to get to Vorkath after resupplying.
Prices have also dropped from around 11k for the bones to around 9.3k for the bones
There are definitely a million vorkath bots out there
yup , i saw one with 72k vorkath only
The soul wars farm is the Royals cc, it's a few vennys manually playing like 50 accounts
zealgains bot farms it too
@@sprungs no, zealgains are people. They do collaborate with Royals to get multiple worlds going, but it all seems to be clicked manually. Otherwise games could go much faster than waiting on the Royals guys to click out of the portal one account at a time lol
only problem with your gp calcs is that some of the bots are getting banned before they get a rare drop like a tbow, which accounts for a lot of that gp/hr.
been seeing lots of corp farms lately using rimmy poh. all i the same gear and similar kc. all wearing guthix coif
world 489 has a skeletal wyvern bot farm 110-122 combat all in torags with whip and mind sheilds along with minimal stats for ele workshop and 72 slayer
Why is the elder expensive now?
Special attack that's better than dragon warhammer.
Can they track which tiles you click on? I mean they could track that and there is no way that normal player does same tile click all over. Then again do bots click on same tiles?🤔
There’s an actually absurd amount of Vyre pickpocket bots right now. Every world has 2-3 bots in it. Most running 24 hours a day. They all have over 99 thieving and many are 110+. I can only imagine how many blood shards have come into the game from them.
100 bot fees + osrs membership + inventory runs + account bans - this is an incredible feat and in the 1000’s of costs
Check out the skeletal wyvern bots in port sarim dungeon near the ice giants
Hey Sirpugger pls investigate the vorkath bots at free world ge. Those bots have like 32k kills for vorkath and the trade a low account then log off. They wear full bandos,dfs and dragon hunter lance.
Where's the video about the level 90 ish runecrafting bots using castle wars bank every few seconds in almost any world.
I hope they don't ban them, i don't wanna pay a lot for these prayers and items.
Every time pugger said "hopefully it doesn't crash item prices" I laughed in ironman :^)
Just wait till the AI bots are released they are/will be 100% undetectable unless multiple are in one location.. but you can set it every account doing something different. These accounts can play 2-3 hours and have human movement chat like you based off Facebook data. Use data set from your regular game play plus use data set from the hundreds of bots. Emphasizing your data set.. 100% undetectable with current detection. However this is hours of training.. and currently would need higher processing costing a lot or you could make using a virtual server like AWS.. 1-4 accounts possible on cheap end but the ROI will be non existent
Fang currently at 18m. Toa bots still doing damage despite jagex claiming to be solving it
theres a bot farm going at the undead druids in forthos dungeon as well. think its new. great videos/content keep it up
@6:40 Venezuelans and Pakistanis. I know quite a few of them, a buddy played 5 accounts at once. They don't like outsiders in because they don't pk eachother
Stand at the Remington house portal for a few mins and watch all the corp bots tele same tick
It’s not big but I feel there’s a lot of bots at blast furnace, every time I hop to a world someone mid run logs out or hops world themselves or sometimes they hop to my world and leave a dynamite and leave😮
More reason to do away with bonds, the clever and sneaky method that makes this game pay-to-win, earning Jagex heaps of cash. Surely it would make these end game bots more difficult to make/use. I’ve always maintained Jagex need bots bc they make them more money. I know the devs don’t want it, but the wallets higher up certainly do.
if you remove bonds, a ton of actual players will drop the game. unless you remove the membership as well, casual people would rather play the game for free and sink some gp into bonds than actually pay for the funny early 2000's pixelated point and click
@@neilu7132 Yea they'll never remove them, and sure some players would quit bc of that, but the game will loose more players bc they can't buy their scythes/tbows/shadows for hundreds of pounds rather than bc they can't pay £5 a month
Theres tons if bots at the flesh crawlers at the stronghold of security. theres 2 to 4 bots per world very hard to find a world to train.
Im always so excited when i hear about a new bot. Its always awesome to see how these coders crack these challenges. My runescape days are behind me but i love seeing the automation. Plus, i have never cared if prices plummet. Im not a gate keeper of the end game
Bots are a huge issue.
theyre the reason that the game exist still lmao.
Hey Mr Pug. I've been seeing bots at tower of life spidines pretty much everytime I've been there recently