@@alexwhicker2337 They weren't given serums tho. They just had some modifications that allowed them to run faster and be stronger, if they did have a supersoldier serum then there would be a very low amount of them.
“Congratulations on becoming a Death Trooper Solider.” “Thank you sir, what are my orders?” “Stand around, look cool, and do absolutely nothing.” “……….Okay.”
@@dodecahedron1 No I'm not. Death troopers had cybernetic implants, making them more cyborg/half robot than human. They're elite special forces stormtroopers, but still were given augmentations to make them deadlier and more loyal (More loyal considering they are known to only be body guards for high Imperial officials). I know the difference between dark troopers and Deathtroopers.
@@brodyking7095 They're practically robots and extremely in intelligent, the force mind trick only works on the weak minded, they're were plenty of regular people during the clone wars who were smart enough to resist. Put the strong minded aspect and the fact the Deathtroopes are basically more robot than human, they should/and were immune to such Jedi tricks
Honestly, after watching Rogue One, I believe that Grand Admiral Thrawn should have been guarded by a much more elite and lethal force of troopers. Watching Death Troopers die so easily from an Asian guy barely moving in Rogue One made me lose all respect for the death troopers. If anything, a man of such high rank (Grand Admiral) should be guarded by Phase 3 Dark Troopers or hell, even Imperial Shadow Guards, although I think that may be a bit too extreme.
@@TheNobleFive No, that’s not who I’m talking about. 🤦♂️ I’m talking about the man who avenges him, the guy with the big ass gun. That’s why I say “an Asian guy barely moving” because he was already weak and was BARELY MOVING, yet the death troopers weren’t able to hit him with first like 4-5 shots at close range. BTW this was towards end of the movie.
I think that of all the movies and series, the ones that take the most advantage and show how efficient Stormtroopers can be are Rogue One, Andor, Bat Batch and the Force Awakens. In other movies and series they are humiliated too much and that bothers me. Lucas' intention was never to make them clowns.
I find it amazing that the description of their height, weight, etc. have been completely ignored after their first appearance. It went from “ The few, the proud, the elite” to “anyone who wants to be can be.”
They really stifled this show for any kind of violence. Its not like youre seeing a battle in clone wars where one shot clone = a dozen destroyed battle droids
Lol why is everyone blaming Disney for nerfing death troopers? You do know that it was Dave feloni that nerfed them right? Pretty sure the ceo of Disney didn't write a 4/10 kids cartoon nor ever watched star wars
"They wore black suits of body armor and specialized helmets with vocal scramblers, micro-motion sensors (i can't see through smoke....), and heads-up displays with data on enemy and friendly positions on the battlefield. Death troopers were trained in unarmed combat, heavy weapons, demolitions, improvised weaponry, guerrilla warfare, and marksmanship. They were experts at covering their tracks, and left little to no evidence of their missions." ahh yes Disney now create a new OP unit and nerfed it every way that thay wants when they need it. So what purpose is to create a new stronger unit that is week after one stronger epizode ?
@@96fiqtumtum_48 no, even stormtroopers were very good soldiers. Its because disney nerfed them even more than what they already were compared to clones. In the death star they were ordered to not kill luke and his team but on the tantive iv they totally decimated the rebels while fighting in a chokepoint.
@@NguyenReactions They are nothing compared to republic commandos. Republic commandos are in their own seperate squads. I would say they are comparable to maybe some type of nerfed arc trooper. But republic commandos had better training, better armor, better weapons, and better combat. If they went up against delta squad or the bad batch they would be doomed, even if it was the rogue one version of the death troopers.
You know what pissed me off about was how Disney totally nerfed them. Death Troopers were supposed to be the elite, and they straight up made them like weak regular Stormtroopers.
So did with the stormtroopers, but nobody talks about that it seems... In RO the death troopers decimated the rebels until "force force, bullshit plot armor excuse" and the missed every shot... i am... starting to hate star wars...
Clone wars nerfed Commando Droids. Started out as scarily competent droids, ended up getting scrapped by regular clones just as easily as the show went on.
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Jedi I understand, if he was dodging bullets. An experienced rebel doesn't make sense unless she was using cover or something. She was in the open. The death troopers were just missing every shot for some reason.
Honestly I’m fine with them not speaking in garbled voices, considering most of their lines aren’t towards other Death Troopers, so it makes sense that they would disable the encryption. The fact that they can go down in a single hit is stupid though
Going down in 1 hit makes sense, as the Death Troopers only area that they are barely improve by is their armors defensive combat functionality. They do have added bits of armor, but the way Storm Trooper style armor works it does little to support them in taking a hit, considering their armor operates the same. - The armor spreads the pain of the shot, this will remove the trooper from the fight, but massively increases survival, and gets them back into the field by the next week. The real injustice is how lacking their active combat abilities were, as they were displayed as barely any more competent than storms. All we really see in rebels is their greater strategic choices of using cover and barebone communicative tactics, rather than being clearly the elites they are. The bad aim and inability to see through smoke is horrendous. Death troopers should have been used to add suspense, which could have helped pressure the characters to better drive the struggle they go through: a result of the troopers improved combative abilities and gear.
@@bigpapan.g3245 I agree with your second point. Death Troopers were used completely wrong. However, while their armor itself wasn’t really stronger compared to standard stormtrooper armor, it had built in electromagnet shields. These aren’t as good as the shields on something like Katarn-class armor, because their main use it scrambling electronic frequencies, but it did still reduce the power of most blaster bolts to the point pistols were practically useless. Look at the finally battle in Rouge One, for example. Baze unloads a burst into a DT at one point with his blaster (which, as a reminder, needs a battery backpack because it outputs so much energy), and it takes a good half dozen shots before he goes down. If an overcharged MG takes that long, I doubt Kanan’s hand blaster could take them down in one shot.
@@ClonedGamer001 Rogue One does a better job at giving the Death Troopers justice to their elite status. Considering how Rebel's has ignored many of their more advanced aspects, going as far as to limiting them to be blinded by smokescreens. We are then left with 4 routes of possible outcomes to explain why. 1- The blasters that did defeat the Death Trooper's were powerful enough to bypass their defenses. 2- Rebel's takes place at an early phase of Death Troopers, a time where their further improved armor systems had yet to be employed. Rebel's displays give additional reasons to prove why they would be improved in later years during the Empires reign: adding defense, vision, and more. 3- The weapons used against the DT in Rogue One were weak enough for the DT to fight through. Which is possible, as the rebel forces did struggle to obtain viable weaponry, and we have more consistent displays of Death Trooper's troubling with more capable blasters: as seen in both Rebel's and The Mandalorian. 4- Inconsistent and/or Bad Writing
@@bigpapan.g3245 My take on each of your four points 1- I mean, obviously you have to break the shield before you actually hit what’s behind it. My point is that the blaster used by Baze in Rouge One (an MWC-35 repeating cannon) was designed to be mounted in place as an _anti-vehicle cannon,_ and still took several shots to take down one Death Trooper. The MWC-35 supposedly had the power of five blaster rifles per shot, for reference. 2- Both Rebels and Rouge One take place in 0 BBY, so unless the equipment upgrade was developed impossibly quick, that’s out 3- While it is true that the equipment used by the Rebels varied from stolen imperial equipment to kit-bashed weapons that barely functioned, Baze’s blaster was purpose built, and once again, was intended to take down light vehicles. If one of those needed several shots to take down a Death Trooper, I really doubt one shot from Kanan’s blaster (a DL-18) or a deflected shot from one of the DT’s own weapons (a E-11D carbine) would break through 4- The correct option. Lazy writing is the only reason, full stop.
This is just the worst....their entire distinct sound is because of encrypted channels to talk to each other. Secondly these are the best the Empire has to offer yet they're no better than Stormtroopers here, and lastly their visors have the ability to see through an impairment like smoke, that's kind of the whole point of them....I can't believe how bad they butchered these guys.
Considering none of the characters knew what they were saying it’s safe to say that is audience perspective, they did have scrambled voices to the characters just not to us so we understand them, like in movies when aliens aren’t speaking English but to us viewers they do so we understand them, I believe halo did that with elites at some point, as for power level they only really get seen fighting Jedi and the likes of saw Guerrera who’s fought them constantly, like look how weak mandos look in TCW but that’s only cause they’re seen fighting each other and the best of the best clones, and in s3 finale until bendu showed up the empire won
Also at 2:45 look how clear the voice through the com link on the receivers end is, she sounds completely different because on the death troopers side it’s scrambled still but the comlink unscrambles it for the officer
Would it have been cool if death troopers were kept mysterious by having them always speak in garbled noises? Maybe, but it would’ve been annoying having to decipher conversations between an officer and a DT. It would be like watching Luke talk to R2, just hearing him go “hm, good point” and being left to infer what the droid said to him. I guess it could’ve been a fun challenge for the writers but I think they decided it would’ve limited them somehow.
Its likely audience perspective when we hear them talk, but still scrambled for the rebels, and I imagine they probably toggle on and off their scramblers when talking to officers that don't have a helmet on and wouldn't be able to understand them
Disney has to ruin everything right? if you're gonna make Death troopers lose cause they're fighting the good guys, atleast make the good guys struggle so you can give the Death troopers some proper respect
@@darkwolf4434 tf? no he's the only one keeping this franchise relevant. He made the clone wars great and the bad batch amazing. the only reason rebels was tolerable was his influence. Rebels is as shit as it is because disney censored it hard af
1:30 remember how the whole point of that thing on the side of the death troopers helmet is to allow them to see through smoke and shit? Disney? Anyone?
Apparently according to Pablo he said that Sabine’s Smoke Grenades are specialised, hence why the Death Troopers aren’t able to see properly. But seriously though, they should at least show it instead of just explain it behind the scenes.
You know, this is just disappointing and highlights the problems in rebels, the enemy never feel like a threat, in the clone wars the commando droids were elite troops and felt like a constant threat to our protagonists when they were on screen, whilst the rest of the droid army were incompetent the elite troops in it put Our heroes in danger and were not just another battle droid The death troops should play a similar part to the commando droids. A large threat that isn't easily defeated like an average stormtrooper. This version of death trooper's is just a re-skin of this shows depictions of stormtroopers, easily killed and humiliated with nothing special about them, just cannon fodder
Also another point is that droids could still be an incredible threat due to their numbers allowing to kill clones who didn’t have many allies at that moment
@@macvadda2318 I know witch is why I find it funny that people complain droids are useless in a 1v1 I mean they are meant to be lol, but yeah totally agree with you
I know this is late but that's why the clone wars were designed so well, the fact that they are clones allows them to have the same feeling as characters we love like rex or cody, but still allows death without killing off a main character.
No shit droids are shit. They're supposed to be shit. They're supposed to be cheap, weak but easy to mass produced. The idea stems from the Clone wars where the Republic prefers Quality while the CIS prefers Quantity. CIS army are able to beat Clone armies and Jedi through numbers
@@noahmaldonado5461 bro same here but on yavin I held down a control point until I say I believe a prequels obi-wan I was so confused I didn’t see the 13 enemies rushing the point
Most Battlefront gamers have never held a real weapon, have never been in a life threatening situation let alone actual combat, have the luxury of seeing around corners in 3p, have the luxury of being able to fight after being shot several times in the body, all while sitting in an air conditioned building with a controller in their hands.
One thing that always makes me laugh is that, we’re supposed to support the rebellion and hate the empire, yet we never see the “good guys” not automatically shoot or leave imperials aboard ships about to blow. Like, why not take some prisoners of war, maybe show the imperials that your not just savages who want to topple the government. Idk, just seems funny to me
In my opinion the Empire were the good guys. I have plenty of reasons but a big one is that they actually cared about establishing order and actually having a presence on just about all of the empires worlds and crime and corruption isn't nearly as bad during the Republic Era. Also the Republic that the rebels make is pretty much just the same as before with barely no presence on other Republic worlds other than the core worlds. Also the new republic is so incompetent even moreso than the Empire with the new republic allowing and barely doing anything about the reveal of a Empire remnant military junta just emerging to conquer and destroy the new republic not to mention desolving roughly 90% of their military.
@@adamisacomedian6344 huh???????? What???? The empire condoned slavery, made life hell if you weren’t a rich human, and the reason they cared about “order” is because Turns out being insane oppressors causes a shit ton of rebellions. What sort of awful comment is this?
The helmet thing was probably a joke they left in, but the only reason they never hit the main cast is because of plot armor, and the storm troopers let them escape the Death Star so they would lead the empire to the rebel base
I'm suprised they didn't blame Kathleen Kennedy. All the good episodes and scenes: God bless Filoni. All the bad Episodes and scenes: Kathleen Kenmedy ruined Star Wars.
Theory: The death troopers on board the cargo transport are just regular storm troopers with normal equipment painted black. The kyber crystal onboard was meant to lure rebel Jedi and the guards had to look important as to not appear suspicious. It would not make sense for regular storm troopers to be guarding a kyber crystal. Thrawn probably planned the mission after finding out about about Kanan knowing exactly where kyber crystals were stored amongst 3 ships in season 1. The size of the crystal ensures that transporting it would be somewhat difficult or dangerous and the prisoners were on the ship to ensure that the rebels did not try to destroy the unstable crystal. What Thrawn did not expect was for Saw to be there to accept civilian casualties. This theory is dumb, but I’m doing the best I can to make sense of things.
@@firingallcylinders2949 Well, I know, but it still hurts. I mean they could have managed to make the rebels escape in a more realistic way. They could have let it be less Death Troopers or the troopers could have just arrived when the rebels were already in the ship or something like that.
20 or so rounds at stationary targets between 3 elite death troopers at about 20 meters with the element of suprise and the high ground and they all miss. Hera grabs a blaster, does a 180 while landing on her back and one shots them with 100% accuracy. I hate plot armor so much.
1:30 I thought Death troopers had the ability to see through smoke, these rebels would have never defeated them that easy. Disney has to nerf them soo much because it’s a kids show. Bruh
Krenic: Stormtroopers secure the area Stormtroopers: YES SIR Krenic: Hovertank pilots uh pilot your hovertanks Hovertank pilots: Yes sir Krenic: Death troopers stand in the back and look really menacing Death troopers: *Silence*
"What about me, sir?" "Ah, shore trooper, you have the best job of them all." *"Four years in the academy for this, they didn't even give me a whistle."*
@@ventris425productions5 Even Thrawn was largely underwhelming in Rebels. His performance, voice acting, and only some of his participation was great, but compared to other media, Thrawn here wasn't all that great.
@@Imperialstorm03 Thrawn is artificially good in the story. By what I mean is that the Rebels lose half their brain cells when he's around. He doesn't win because he's smart, he wins because the Rebels become flaming retards when he's around.
Design-wise, I actually really love what they did with the death troopers, the normal ones are supposed to have attachments on the sides of their helmets, but without them, like seen here, they manage to look alot sleeker and (in my opinion) cooler, where as the death trooper specialist (seen at 1:28) has the thing on their helmet along with their extra combat gear. Normally it's the other way around, but like this, they look better in my opinion
@@ventris425productions5 Yeah, but they're too thin for my taste. I mean, their physical capabilities are supposed to be "somewhat beyond human". Do their stick legs and noodle arms look super human to you?
Fun fact: The reason the Death Troopers couldn't see through the smoke was because Sabine tampered with the smoke grenades to scrabble the sensors like she said in the episode since she was a former member of the empire.
@@omarbaba9892 It doesn't make much sense to why they would do that, since they can hear each other over comms so I just like to pretend they didn't have those yet
@@edgyplays0290 When in the episode does she say this? And is it this specific Part 2 Episode of In The Name of The Rebellion because I rewatched the episode and didn’t hear her say anything about it.
Notice in the smoke scene that they can't see through smoke and their voice modulator is disabled? You can see that the Rebels disabled these, because the normally luminescent green eyes on the helmets are off. Saw Garrera is truly smart
Death Troopers in Wiki, Rogue One, and everything else in the SW universe: elite troops picked from the best of the Stormtrooper Corps, given advanced survival training, physical fitness regimens and top of the line imperial weapons and tech. Death Troopers in Rebels: Barely more useful than the Inquisitors. All Disney had to do was insert some significant characters that didn't have plot armor to die and not make DTs seem so pathetic...smh
Everyone says they’re mad because the Death Troopers were nerfed and that they’re supposed to be a super solider... I could care less. No, what really makes me made is... They can speak, and people understand them......... *Angry Tron Noises*
My complaint with death trooper 1: armor still cant take much of a hit 2: no thermal scanner to see in smoke like wtf that’s like the basic for advance full cover helmet 3: PLOT ARMOR STILL SCREW YOU
1: it’s actually just regular stormtrooper armour painted black 2: the smoke grenade might have doubled as an EMP grenade as its Star Wars 3 plot armour is literally in everything you can’t have an action series with main characters without it
@@andruspolanco6935 even if that’s the case they would have stuck behind cover and a shot from a small hand blaster is not enough to kill a death trooper
I wish they would make a death trooper series where we actually see them winning battles, successfully accomplishing top secret missions, and other cool stuff.
Fun fact: Death Troopers can see through smokes and solid walls with their helmets
O_O shit
Regular Stormtrooper helmets can already do that, they got nerfed so hard
they also have night vision, infrared and a targeting system
But can they see through plot armor
@@MrEvilTag a little bit
I feel like they have a lot more potential than what was shown on screen. I mean they’re literally super soldiers
Yeah they should be as powerful as Captain America probably more since they have a super high tech
@@alexwhicker2337 They weren't given serums tho. They just had some modifications that allowed them to run faster and be stronger, if they did have a supersoldier serum then there would be a very low amount of them.
If it was realistic these troops would take on the whole rebellion themselves
@@thedarkknight5239 and the war would have been done
this whole show had a lot more potential than what was shown on screen
“Congratulations on becoming a Death Trooper Solider.”
“Thank you sir, what are my orders?”
“Stand around, look cool, and do absolutely nothing.”
“……….Okay.”
"At least its better than be an Imperial Guard, they killed themselves to stay there..."
"What is my purpose?"
You stand around and look cool"
"Oh my god..."
@@_MaZTeR_ "I can't believe it... IT'S THE BEST. JOB. EVER!"
Actually they would respond “SHRBSMANBCBEBCKCKSK”
I mean they are mostly security detail and bodyguards, so it makes sense.
Funny how Ezra was able to mind trick a Deathtrooper when Deathtroopers are more cybernetic than human.
They still can be tricked.
@@brodyking7095 but they aren't much of a threat if they're just repainted stormtroopers
you're thinking of phase zero dark troopers, death troopers are just elite storm troopers
@@dodecahedron1 No I'm not. Death troopers had cybernetic implants, making them more cyborg/half robot than human. They're elite special forces stormtroopers, but still were given augmentations to make them deadlier and more loyal (More loyal considering they are known to only be body guards for high Imperial officials). I know the difference between dark troopers and Deathtroopers.
@@brodyking7095 They're practically robots and extremely in intelligent, the force mind trick only works on the weak minded, they're were plenty of regular people during the clone wars who were smart enough to resist. Put the strong minded aspect and the fact the Deathtroopes are basically more robot than human, they should/and were immune to such Jedi tricks
Sorry but these aren't Death Troopers, they're Stormtroopers in cosplay
They’re emo stormtroopers
@@Person-mk7tk YES!!!
@@chasgalaxy6721 There E Troopers.
More like death trooper first day at work and having 0 experience
3:52
4:05
And they said all clones were removed in Imperial army
They were phased out. Not removed
@@MrEvilTag New Filoni lore changed a lot of things
@@Fulcrox yeah and that wasnt one of the things changed. The first wave of stormtroopers were a mix of clones and actual recruits
@@MrEvilTag he is going for a full replacement as far The Bad Batch went
@@Fulcrox yeah thats the point. There were still clones during the first few years like the purge troopers
6:04 IMPOSTER SUS!?!?!?!?!
Amogus?!?😳
They did the death troopers dirty in this show 😤
Honestly, after watching Rogue One, I believe that Grand Admiral Thrawn should have been guarded by a much more elite and lethal force of troopers. Watching Death Troopers die so easily from an Asian guy barely moving in Rogue One made me lose all respect for the death troopers. If anything, a man of such high rank (Grand Admiral) should be guarded by Phase 3 Dark Troopers or hell, even Imperial Shadow Guards, although I think that may be a bit too extreme.
Cope.
You mean a martial artist at peace with himself tapping into the force? That's like how half of stormtroopers in this franchise die lol.
@@TheNobleFive No, that’s not who I’m talking about. 🤦♂️ I’m talking about the man who avenges him, the guy with the big ass gun. That’s why I say “an Asian guy barely moving” because he was already weak and was BARELY MOVING, yet the death troopers weren’t able to hit him with first like 4-5 shots at close range. BTW this was towards end of the movie.
Considering how they are in Battlefront 2... It makes sense why these guys guard Thrawn
It doesn't matter how elite the imperial troopers are, when facing the plot armor on the rebel side, there just isn't a single way to win.
I think that of all the movies and series, the ones that take the most advantage and show how efficient Stormtroopers can be are Rogue One, Andor, Bat Batch and the Force Awakens. In other movies and series they are humiliated too much and that bothers me. Lucas' intention was never to make them clowns.
Wrong. Have you not watched the 6th movie where they got defeated by overgrown Teddy Bears.
I find it amazing that the description of their height, weight, etc. have been completely ignored after their first appearance. It went from “ The few, the proud, the elite” to “anyone who wants to be can be.”
Man they really made Deathtroopers into another canon fodder but with cool armor
these guys should not have been in rebels if they’re just gonna nerf them into the ground like a vast majority of imps
Honestly, I think I know why they had voice modulators now
6:04
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ARE YOU IMP😭OSTER YOUR A😭😭😭CTING SUS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Mogus
I refuse to believe they weren’t stormtroopers cosplaying as death troopers
One is a woman so it makes sense they ain't legit
6:04 amogus moment
These guys are like stormtrooper thrawn and its scary
Thrawn with death troopers should've been the end of any alliance or rebel group
They were regulars in stolen armor. It was their death.
They really stifled this show for any kind of violence. Its not like youre seeing a battle in clone wars where one shot clone = a dozen destroyed battle droids
God the incompetence
What bothers me about death troopers
They don’t have armor improvements like Shock troopers
You would think a specialized unit would have better armor
Plot armor is rather annoying
What a joke lmao
They’re good in season 3 but bad in 4
Imposter? AMOGUS
Hey
I love rebels but they did death troopers dirty in season 4 but I don’t think the voice is a problem since they could probably turn the scramblers off
And these comments are pretty terrible and very toxic like you
Those were robots or cyborgs, not night sister zombies
Lol why is everyone blaming Disney for nerfing death troopers? You do know that it was Dave feloni that nerfed them right? Pretty sure the ceo of Disney didn't write a 4/10 kids cartoon nor ever watched star wars
It’s kinda sad how a death trooper is easily mind tricked despite their undying loyalty yet others in clone wars who are facing stronger Jedi aren’t.
They aren't as trained.
@@idksom8928 but they literally are
@@idksom8928 I see someone is a normie
P l o t a r m o u r
@@paris5663 I don't think that word applies here :/
"They wore black suits of body armor and specialized helmets with vocal scramblers, micro-motion sensors (i can't see through smoke....), and heads-up displays with data on enemy and friendly positions on the battlefield. Death troopers were trained in unarmed combat, heavy weapons, demolitions, improvised weaponry, guerrilla warfare, and marksmanship. They were experts at covering their tracks, and left little to no evidence of their missions." ahh yes Disney now create a new OP unit and nerfed it every way that thay wants when they need it. So what purpose is to create a new stronger unit that is week after one stronger epizode ?
Logically, they're just stormtroopers painted in black .
@@96fiqtumtum_48 no, even stormtroopers were very good soldiers. Its because disney nerfed them even more than what they already were compared to clones. In the death star they were ordered to not kill luke and his team but on the tantive iv they totally decimated the rebels while fighting in a chokepoint.
These guys were supposed to be kinda like the Republic Commandos of the Empire
@@NguyenReactions They are nothing compared to republic commandos. Republic commandos are in their own seperate squads. I would say they are comparable to maybe some type of nerfed arc trooper. But republic commandos had better training, better armor, better weapons, and better combat. If they went up against delta squad or the bad batch they would be doomed, even if it was the rogue one version of the death troopers.
And don't forget , they're genetically modified
You know what pissed me off about was how Disney totally nerfed them. Death Troopers were supposed to be the elite, and they straight up made them like weak regular Stormtroopers.
Disney wanted it to be kid friendly. Such bullshit from them
So did with the stormtroopers, but nobody talks about that it seems...
In RO the death troopers decimated the rebels until "force force, bullshit plot armor excuse" and the missed every shot... i am... starting to hate star wars...
@@michelecastellotti9172 I can make a case that the same thing happened with Commando Droids in Clone Wars.
Clone wars nerfed Commando Droids. Started out as scarily competent droids, ended up getting scrapped by regular clones just as easily as the show went on.
@@SwordsmanMercenary yes, and i replied to that
They literally took almost every cool aspect away from them. Voices, skill, presence
And appearance, kinda. I get that Death Troopers are supposed to be sleek and thin, but these guys literally look like their arms and legs are sticks.
@@floriansteininger347 That's Rebels in general tbh. Simultaneously thin and yet also lumpen character designs.
3:16 “thoi are trying to accomodate thee shottle”
Imagine explaining to your boss that your elite troopers lost to a blind man and a drunk woman
I'm not sure what you mean with blind man and drunk woman
@@Jodacro-it4zz Kannan Jarrus (blind)
Hera Syndulla (drunk because of torturing, it's complicated)
@@gabrijelbosnjak8196Ones a Jedi and ones an experienced rebel
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Jedi I understand, if he was dodging bullets. An experienced rebel doesn't make sense unless she was using cover or something. She was in the open. The death troopers were just missing every shot for some reason.
Honestly I’m fine with them not speaking in garbled voices, considering most of their lines aren’t towards other Death Troopers, so it makes sense that they would disable the encryption.
The fact that they can go down in a single hit is stupid though
Going down in 1 hit makes sense, as the Death Troopers only area that they are barely improve by is their armors defensive combat functionality. They do have added bits of armor, but the way Storm Trooper style armor works it does little to support them in taking a hit, considering their armor operates the same.
- The armor spreads the pain of the shot, this will remove the trooper from the fight, but massively increases survival, and gets them back into the field by the next week.
The real injustice is how lacking their active combat abilities were, as they were displayed as barely any more competent than storms. All we really see in rebels is their greater strategic choices of using cover and barebone communicative tactics, rather than being clearly the elites they are.
The bad aim and inability to see through smoke is horrendous.
Death troopers should have been used to add suspense, which could have helped pressure the characters to better drive the struggle they go through: a result of the troopers improved combative abilities and gear.
@@bigpapan.g3245 I agree with your second point. Death Troopers were used completely wrong.
However, while their armor itself wasn’t really stronger compared to standard stormtrooper armor, it had built in electromagnet shields. These aren’t as good as the shields on something like Katarn-class armor, because their main use it scrambling electronic frequencies, but it did still reduce the power of most blaster bolts to the point pistols were practically useless.
Look at the finally battle in Rouge One, for example. Baze unloads a burst into a DT at one point with his blaster (which, as a reminder, needs a battery backpack because it outputs so much energy), and it takes a good half dozen shots before he goes down. If an overcharged MG takes that long, I doubt Kanan’s hand blaster could take them down in one shot.
@@ClonedGamer001 Rogue One does a better job at giving the Death Troopers justice to their elite status.
Considering how Rebel's has ignored many of their more advanced aspects, going as far as to limiting them to be blinded by smokescreens.
We are then left with 4 routes of possible outcomes to explain why.
1- The blasters that did defeat the Death Trooper's were powerful enough to bypass their defenses.
2- Rebel's takes place at an early phase of Death Troopers, a time where their further improved armor systems had yet to be employed. Rebel's displays give additional reasons to prove why they would be improved in later years during the Empires reign: adding defense, vision, and more.
3- The weapons used against the DT in Rogue One were weak enough for the DT to fight through. Which is possible, as the rebel forces did struggle to obtain viable weaponry, and we have more consistent displays of Death Trooper's troubling with more capable blasters: as seen in both Rebel's and The Mandalorian.
4- Inconsistent and/or Bad Writing
@@bigpapan.g3245 My take on each of your four points
1- I mean, obviously you have to break the shield before you actually hit what’s behind it. My point is that the blaster used by Baze in Rouge One (an MWC-35 repeating cannon) was designed to be mounted in place as an _anti-vehicle cannon,_ and still took several shots to take down one Death Trooper. The MWC-35 supposedly had the power of five blaster rifles per shot, for reference.
2- Both Rebels and Rouge One take place in 0 BBY, so unless the equipment upgrade was developed impossibly quick, that’s out
3- While it is true that the equipment used by the Rebels varied from stolen imperial equipment to kit-bashed weapons that barely functioned, Baze’s blaster was purpose built, and once again, was intended to take down light vehicles. If one of those needed several shots to take down a Death Trooper, I really doubt one shot from Kanan’s blaster (a DL-18) or a deflected shot from one of the DT’s own weapons (a E-11D carbine) would break through
4- The correct option. Lazy writing is the only reason, full stop.
@@ClonedGamer001 well, CW showed us that filoni is a good righter when the ristrictions aren’t massive
Who would win:
Elite storm troopers with lots of training led by the best admiral in the Empire.
Some rebel bois with plot armour
to be fair phoneix squad are the finest rebels.
Lmao it’s not that hard to fight the Empire
@@NickMartinproductions uh? the only reason why rebels won due to luke and vader gave his life for luke. without that rebels would not win
This is just the worst....their entire distinct sound is because of encrypted channels to talk to each other. Secondly these are the best the Empire has to offer yet they're no better than Stormtroopers here, and lastly their visors have the ability to see through an impairment like smoke, that's kind of the whole point of them....I can't believe how bad they butchered these guys.
Considering none of the characters knew what they were saying it’s safe to say that is audience perspective, they did have scrambled voices to the characters just not to us so we understand them, like in movies when aliens aren’t speaking English but to us viewers they do so we understand them, I believe halo did that with elites at some point, as for power level they only really get seen fighting Jedi and the likes of saw Guerrera who’s fought them constantly, like look how weak mandos look in TCW but that’s only cause they’re seen fighting each other and the best of the best clones, and in s3 finale until bendu showed up the empire won
Also at 2:45 look how clear the voice through the com link on the receivers end is, she sounds completely different because on the death troopers side it’s scrambled still but the comlink unscrambles it for the officer
@@connorgarvin2056 thats honestly overthinking it
Would it have been cool if death troopers were kept mysterious by having them always speak in garbled noises? Maybe, but it would’ve been annoying having to decipher conversations between an officer and a DT. It would be like watching Luke talk to R2, just hearing him go “hm, good point” and being left to infer what the droid said to him.
I guess it could’ve been a fun challenge for the writers but I think they decided it would’ve limited them somehow.
Plot armour, nothing can save you from it.
Give the Deathtroopers their own show, then we'll see.
Star Wars Rebels just sucks as a show
They can talk now!
Yup, they talk now!
Turn it off TURN IT OFF
Its likely audience perspective when we hear them talk, but still scrambled for the rebels, and I imagine they probably toggle on and off their scramblers when talking to officers that don't have a helmet on and wouldn't be able to understand them
They talk now!
They talk now?
tHeY tAlK nOw!!
How Death Troopers actually talk: Alien Morse code
@@yadude_log well yes but how they talked in RO was to each other so no one would know what they were planning,
Disney has to ruin everything right? if you're gonna make Death troopers lose cause they're fighting the good guys, atleast make the good guys struggle so you can give the Death troopers some proper respect
Well tbf it was Disney who created the Death troopers in the first place
@@bulbobaggins doesn't justify how they can butcher their own lore.
@@Kimi-uk6lf but its disney
Do you think they should fire Filoni?
@@darkwolf4434 tf? no he's the only one keeping this franchise relevant. He made the clone wars great and the bad batch amazing. the only reason rebels was tolerable was his influence. Rebels is as shit as it is because disney censored it hard af
1:30 remember how the whole point of that thing on the side of the death troopers helmet is to allow them to see through smoke and shit? Disney? Anyone?
Apparently according to Pablo he said that Sabine’s Smoke Grenades are specialised, hence why the Death Troopers aren’t able to see properly. But seriously though, they should at least show it instead of just explain it behind the scenes.
Bullshit
It's not entirely unbelievable.
Paint bombs are definitely harder to see through than smoke bombs.
@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758 Frankly death troopers just shouldnt have been in this show.
@@mrplotarmour5393 it’s believable, irl multi spectral smoke is used to block thermal sensors from detecting heat signature.
You know, this is just disappointing and highlights the problems in rebels, the enemy never feel like a threat, in the clone wars the commando droids were elite troops and felt like a constant threat to our protagonists when they were on screen, whilst the rest of the droid army were incompetent the elite troops in it put Our heroes in danger and were not just another battle droid
The death troops should play a similar part to the commando droids. A large threat that isn't easily defeated like an average stormtrooper. This version of death trooper's is just a re-skin of this shows depictions of stormtroopers, easily killed and humiliated with nothing special about them, just cannon fodder
Also another point is that droids could still be an incredible threat due to their numbers allowing to kill clones who didn’t have many allies at that moment
@@ventris425productions5 tbh, the droids were kinda meant to be strength in numbers
@@macvadda2318 I know witch is why I find it funny that people complain droids are useless in a 1v1 I mean they are meant to be lol, but yeah totally agree with you
I know this is late but that's why the clone wars were designed so well, the fact that they are clones allows them to have the same feeling as characters we love like rex or cody, but still allows death without killing off a main character.
No shit droids are shit. They're supposed to be shit. They're supposed to be cheap, weak but easy to mass produced. The idea stems from the Clone wars where the Republic prefers Quality while the CIS prefers Quantity. CIS army are able to beat Clone armies and Jedi through numbers
Battlefront gamers can make the Death troopers much more efficient than what was shown here.
I once got a 50+ killstreak while playing as a death trooper on co-op jabba's palace
@@noahmaldonado5461 bro same here but on yavin I held down a control point until I say I believe a prequels obi-wan I was so confused I didn’t see the 13 enemies rushing the point
And most gamers haven’t even had combat training
Fr I always get tons of kills with Death troopers it’s so fun
Most Battlefront gamers have never held a real weapon, have never been in a life threatening situation let alone actual combat, have the luxury of seeing around corners in 3p, have the luxury of being able to fight after being shot several times in the body, all while sitting in an air conditioned building with a controller in their hands.
One thing that always makes me laugh is that, we’re supposed to support the rebellion and hate the empire, yet we never see the “good guys” not automatically shoot or leave imperials aboard ships about to blow. Like, why not take some prisoners of war, maybe show the imperials that your not just savages who want to topple the government. Idk, just seems funny to me
Yep, that’s why I always try to root for the empire but we all know how cliche movies go. The good guys always win in kids cartoons 🙄
@@henrysmith4323 yep
In my opinion the Empire were the good guys. I have plenty of reasons but a big one is that they actually cared about establishing order and actually having a presence on just about all of the empires worlds and crime and corruption isn't nearly as bad during the Republic Era. Also the Republic that the rebels make is pretty much just the same as before with barely no presence on other Republic worlds other than the core worlds. Also the new republic is so incompetent even moreso than the Empire with the new republic allowing and barely doing anything about the reveal of a Empire remnant military junta just emerging to conquer and destroy the new republic not to mention desolving roughly 90% of their military.
I mean I believe it ends with them straight blowing up tens of thousands of people on a ship, Rebels? More like Terrorists
@@adamisacomedian6344 huh???????? What???? The empire condoned slavery, made life hell if you weren’t a rich human, and the reason they cared about “order” is because Turns out being insane oppressors causes a shit ton of rebellions. What sort of awful comment is this?
Dude,these guys were nerfed heavily.
Nah man.
@@pogusamogus1114 They weren't that strong. They were just better in comparison to a normal soldier.
Go to the 5:00 mark. You couldn’t be more correct
@@valleyforgeproductions broi think their aim is as shit as an reg stormtrooper
@@aaronchang4190 and now they are worse than the normal soldier lmao
I like how these comments all blame Disney but never specifically blame Dave Filoni for this...........
The helmet thing was probably a joke they left in, but the only reason they never hit the main cast is because of plot armor, and the storm troopers let them escape the Death Star so they would lead the empire to the rebel base
I'm suprised they didn't blame Kathleen Kennedy.
All the good episodes and scenes: God bless Filoni.
All the bad Episodes and scenes: Kathleen Kenmedy ruined Star Wars.
Well if felonies had his way these guys would be more of a trouble for the rebels
@MUHAMMAD AZLAN SHAH BIN HAZIZUL - well they can’t be super op
@Mr Glass Finally, someone smart.
Reminder that even standard stormtrooper helmets can see through smoke
When is that showcased in the movies or shows?
@@dachshund_gamingeverytime in the first movie they litteraly shoot in the smoke against rebelle and hit him
@@dachshund_gamingthe very first scene in Star Wars when the door blows open in a new hope and the stormtroopers shoot through smoke
Theory: The death troopers on board the cargo transport are just regular storm troopers with normal equipment painted black. The kyber crystal onboard was meant to lure rebel Jedi and the guards had to look important as to not appear suspicious. It would not make sense for regular storm troopers to be guarding a kyber crystal. Thrawn probably planned the mission after finding out about about Kanan knowing exactly where kyber crystals were stored amongst 3 ships in season 1. The size of the crystal ensures that transporting it would be somewhat difficult or dangerous and the prisoners were on the ship to ensure that the rebels did not try to destroy the unstable crystal. What Thrawn did not expect was for Saw to be there to accept civilian casualties. This theory is dumb, but I’m doing the best I can to make sense of things.
I think you might be giving them too much credit (both the directors of the show and the imperials) but nice theory :)
@@delta9685 Thank you, I still think my theory is dumb though.
@@PureGarbageWithCheese Whaaaat nooo. It's interesting at the very least. It makes this show deeper than it is tbh.
Nah bro its just bad writing. Just make your own headcanon and ignote that tbid sctually happens
@@lucasart328 theories are literally headcanons 💀
5:20 I love how he just accepts his own failure😂
That’s what an idiot working for the Empire does LMAO
5:00 What is this crap, where the hell is there aim, they're elite troopers!
This is plot armor, and naturally Syndulla hits her first shot.....if this was true to canon the rebels would have been dead in seconds.
@@firingallcylinders2949 Well, I know, but it still hurts. I mean they could have managed to make the rebels escape in a more realistic way. They could have let it be less Death Troopers or the troopers could have just arrived when the rebels were already in the ship or something like that.
Disney rusined storm troopers
@@bloq6758 absolutely
They really could’ve set this up better without making the death troopers look blind af
20 or so rounds at stationary targets between 3 elite death troopers at about 20 meters with the element of suprise and the high ground and they all miss.
Hera grabs a blaster, does a 180 while landing on her back and one shots them with 100% accuracy. I hate plot armor so much.
I kinda like the new armor for imperial cadets....
Man these cadets, my goodness they've grown
1:30 I thought Death troopers had the ability to see through smoke, these rebels would have never defeated them that easy.
Disney has to nerf them soo much because it’s a kids show. Bruh
disnet rusined storm trooper even in the new show
"Kids' show"
*Litterally warcrimes in every single episode*
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 war crimes like throwing Stormtroopers from platforms while everyone laughs for the 272882 consecutive time lmao
@@Fulcrox It's not a war crime if we like it
Based moment
You do realize the Rebels literally disable a scene before?
Stormtroopers: the empires Elite
Death Troopers: The Elite of the Elite
Come on, this Death Trooper would have just fired at him 1:59
Pretty late to say anything but the Death Trooper don't seem weak minded so its unclear why the mind trick worked on him.
After watching Rogue One
Let's pretend these are Stormtroopers in cosplay
Krenic: Stormtroopers secure the area
Stormtroopers: YES SIR
Krenic: Hovertank pilots uh pilot your hovertanks
Hovertank pilots: Yes sir
Krenic: Death troopers stand in the back and look really menacing
Death troopers: *Silence*
"What about me, sir?"
"Ah, shore trooper, you have the best job of them all."
*"Four years in the academy for this, they didn't even give me a whistle."*
@@ic0nic707 "Hey! Kid! No running by the pool-AHHH" **splash**
First Stormtroopers, now Death Troopers. We cannot trust Rebels to do anything right lmao
At least thrawn exists
@@ventris425productions5 Even Thrawn was largely underwhelming in Rebels. His performance, voice acting, and only some of his participation was great, but compared to other media, Thrawn here wasn't all that great.
@@Imperialstorm03 I know but compared to the rest of rebels
@@ventris425productions5 I'll have to agree there.... Somewhat.
@@Imperialstorm03 Thrawn is artificially good in the story. By what I mean is that the Rebels lose half their brain cells when he's around. He doesn't win because he's smart, he wins because the Rebels become flaming retards when he's around.
As if people didn’t hate this show already they did this 😂😂
This was the best animated star Wars show wym
@@thelookingcat what are you one lmao not the best by far
@@thelookingcat clone wars is way better
@@pepdemora3395 what this guy is saying
@@thelookingcat BULL!!! The Clone Wars is better
“mom can we have death troopers?”
“we have death troopers at home.”
3:41 3:54 4:07 Is the coolest voice imo, almost sounds like an Aperture bot.
Aren’t Death Troopers supposed to have scramblers so that most people wouldn’t understand what they were saying?
Yes
They can probably turn them off when they’re not on a mission
Any movie: *Creates elite new Troopers that are trained to kill rebels*
Disney: Best I can do is get shot once and die
I like the insane detail on the comms, The female death troopers voice doesnt have the usual muffle when she is talking to the bridge
We saw very different Death Troopers in Rogue One. Those were actually bad ass. Gave the rebels hell.
7:32 Are these the two undead death troopers we see in Ahsoka?
I would assume so
They're not supposed to talk it's supposed to be scrambled like how the royal guards have their own language
I get they were fodder in this show, but damn his voice is cool
5:11
I agree
They were too weak.
This is not canon in my book
No one asked
Death Troopers. The Empire's Commando droids.
Why do they have to use them if they don’t differentiate them at all from normal stormtroopers?
I love death troopers on Rogue One but they just look funny in Rebels and Mando
Design-wise, I actually really love what they did with the death troopers, the normal ones are supposed to have attachments on the sides of their helmets, but without them, like seen here, they manage to look alot sleeker and (in my opinion) cooler, where as the death trooper specialist (seen at 1:28) has the thing on their helmet along with their extra combat gear. Normally it's the other way around, but like this, they look better in my opinion
I think the sleek ones look better in rebels but the armoured ones look better in rogue one
@@ventris425productions5 Yeah, but they're too thin for my taste. I mean, their physical capabilities are supposed to be "somewhat beyond human". Do their stick legs and noodle arms look super human to you?
@@floriansteininger347 I’d agree there too thin, but considering they through everything about them out the window I don’t mind the stylistic choice
@@ventris425productions5 Yeah, these guys weren't Death Troopers. They were cosplayers.
@@floriansteininger347I agree with that, even if saw did take down that first one, the other 4 should've made quick work of the rebels
2:16 I feel like that’s the same death trooper from episode 15 of the Bad Batch when she escaped from Tipoca City
No, That Elite's name was ES-02, this is DT-16
Fun fact: The reason the Death Troopers couldn't see through the smoke was because Sabine tampered with the smoke grenades to scrabble the sensors like she said in the episode since she was a former member of the empire.
Also they could probably turn the voice scramblers off
@@omarbaba9892 It doesn't make much sense to why they would do that, since they can hear each other over comms so I just like to pretend they didn't have those yet
chaff right?
@@shernweilee5576 Pretty much
@@edgyplays0290 When in the episode does she say this? And is it this specific Part 2 Episode of In The Name of The Rebellion because I rewatched the episode and didn’t hear her say anything about it.
They were wasted on this show.
I love the death troopers, massively underrated in the show. One thing I do love is the sound of their blasters at 1:21 1:24 1:46
Its called e - 11d
Notice in the smoke scene that they can't see through smoke and their voice modulator is disabled? You can see that the Rebels disabled these, because the normally luminescent green eyes on the helmets are off. Saw Garrera is truly smart
Death Troopers in Wiki, Rogue One, and everything else in the SW universe: elite troops picked from the best of the Stormtrooper Corps, given advanced survival training, physical fitness regimens and top of the line imperial weapons and tech.
Death Troopers in Rebels: Barely more useful than the Inquisitors.
All Disney had to do was insert some significant characters that didn't have plot armor to die and not make DTs seem so pathetic...smh
Fact: this show would have done much better with clone wars/ bad batch animation
Speak death trooper I do
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the Death Trooper voice is different in live-action
Voice scamblers
5:24 (Scrambled Voice) Alright you two, Numbers and Clearance Codes Now.
Everyone says they’re mad because the Death Troopers were nerfed and that they’re supposed to be a super solider... I could care less.
No, what really makes me made is...
They can speak, and people understand them......... *Angry Tron Noises*
Its probably audience perspective
6:03
My complaint with death trooper
1: armor still cant take much of a hit
2: no thermal scanner to see in smoke like wtf that’s like the basic for advance full cover helmet
3: PLOT ARMOR STILL SCREW YOU
1: it’s actually just regular stormtrooper armour painted black
2: the smoke grenade might have doubled as an EMP grenade as its Star Wars
3 plot armour is literally in everything you can’t have an action series with main characters without it
This show tbh was a joke
British Troopers.
Worse part is there’s a scene in smoke where the rebels fool them when the death troopers Literally have night vision and something else
It's literally said that Sabine did something so they can't do that
@@andruspolanco6935 even if that’s the case they would have stuck behind cover and a shot from a small hand blaster is not enough to kill a death trooper
@@andruspolanco6935 ok yes, your right but the death troopers should have moved back to a more advantageous position
I wish they would make a death trooper series where we actually see them winning battles, successfully accomplishing top secret missions, and other cool stuff.
1:43 I'm sorry but did that death trooper just SPEAK?! God what happened to speaking in a language only they could understand
Filoni forgot
I don’t understand why they made it so we can hear what they are saying. Their voices are supposed to be scrambled.
they did not do the death troopers justice in this show
For being called “Death troopers” there isn’t much death any time they’re around..
Rebels kinda ruined death troopers
I like the commander’s voice, the helmet makes her sound less human.