The LGBT "I Don't Care" Song
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- So you're on the internet and you've asserted that Christians aren't being Christlike for opposing the New Sexual Orthodoxy? Before we debate that, there's something else we should probably discuss first.
"Did God really say you shall not eat from any tree in the Garden?"
What the "Don't Judge" crowd don't understand is that the Devil has literally been misquoting God from the beginning.
The devil tried to misquote God to God himself (when Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights)!!!!
@@brittanymadelianne9247 granted he didn't know if Jesus was God or not at the time. He thought he was just another prophet. Which is why the Devil always started with "if you are truly the son of God".
Or they *do* understand that
okay "but did god really tell you to spend all of your time hating on gay people and assuming they hate god instead of having an actual discussion with them" is a legitimate question
y'all need to stop abusing that scripture from genesis as an excuse to never question the personal biases you've already built up for yourselves
@@Netbug009 spoken as someone who has never actually considered the Christian position.
this may come as a surprise to you, but most Christians do not spend all our time "hating on gay people" anymore than we spend all our time hating on Adam and Eve for eating the forbidden fruit. Part of your confusion, I suppose, comes from an ideology which equates sexual desire and behavior with identity. The Bible and Church teaching are clear that certain behaviors are fundamentally disordered (it's not a "personal bias," as you put it). We ought to hate sin because it damages persons and it is actually unloving to ignore sin, or worse, celebrate it. But you're not content with toleration (the practice of allowing the existence, occurrence, or practice of something that one does not necessarily like or agree with); you demand celebration.
Bye
"Messiah turducken deathmatch" would get ten likes from me all by itself, but sadly I can only hit the button once. 🤣🤣🤣
We'll help you.
I had to stop the video from laughter. I'm shamelessly stealing that.
Every like on this comment is the equivalent of 10 messiah turducken deathmatch likes
I regret that I have but one upvote to give to "messiah turducken deathmatch."
This. Exactly this.
That's a nice way to turn the conversation towards the main issues at stake.👍👍
Also, making up "Messiah Turduckin Death Match" deserves an Oscar hands down... 😁🤣
This.... Actually has helped me with dealing with some issues I've had with friends lately... Thank you
@Richard Fox I'm 99% sure they were issues relating to his friends being indistinguishable from the person described in the song
Jesus loves you my friends, have a nice day
@CMSSmh is everything okay my friend?
@Richard Fox Lutheranism and rationalism are at odds with each other. I spoke with a LCMS pastor who admitted he was trained by a 19th church to preach to a 16th century audience. They’re not all out of touch, some do care and try to get the message across to see Christ in others. They can try and put up walls around themselves to insulate themselves from others, but those walls are not impermeable. I know because they hold onto the fear of rediscovering that the Lutheran seal is symbolic of the 8-year orbital cycle of Venus revolving around Earth from the human vantage point. The Holy Sacrament, Christ’s body and blood is “in, with, and under” the bread and wine, is a metaphor for Venus in retrograde. Jesus is the morning star and was resurrected from the dead as the evening star- Jesus is feminine love. It was the women who stayed, knowing full well that those who hated Jesus without cause would hate them too. It was the women who stayed at the foot of the cross- unnamed, unseen, and overlooked- they did not desert him. It was the women who cared for Christ’s beaten, bloody body, and gave him a proper burial. It was the women who were first to witness the Resurrection. ✝️
Why do men of the church fear allowing women as pastors? It’s because the women who stay are closer to Christ. I never abandoned Jesus Christ, the divine, I left the church that was perverted by man. I am incredibly hurt by the church where I was confirmed, they feared me and treated me as if I did not understand the truth of God’s love. Here I stand. Peace be with you.
If this video helped you then it's clear that you're the problem not them.
Cope harder bigot.
I’m not Lutheran, I’m not a satirist, I’m not a singing puppet, I’m not a piano player, and I’m not gay but I really like this video 👍
Jesus gave the invite to follow Him
God gave the commandment when Jesus said to warn- Truly ! Verily! You must BE born again
Holy Spirit is the Witness and does the wonderful work of it
Coming to each of us as Jesus went to the people
Living withIN
Building His people
Tabernacle- Temple- Tent of Meeting seen of all men- living and having our being with Him
God is going to stop all this name calling
There was only ‘8’ saved on the ark
A depiction of the True Church - Ephesians Ch 4!!! 💖👑
Gays think we are trying to make them straight. No. We are just telling them gay is not ok. God does not play favorites. He tells us all, repent and believe.
Exactly that. Log in my own eye means I don't get to be the one trying to cleanly help people with the specks in theirs. All I can do is affirm the same standards that would apply them would apply to me and the only reason I have to think I'll escape the fires myself is because sin and its consequences were dealt with on the cross.
But for the Grace of God go I.
I'm not Lutheran at all, I'm catholic (meaning I have obvious disagreements), but this is just.... perfect!
Catholic*
have you paid your fees yet to have your sins forgiven by church corp. ?
@thorstenmarquardt7274 not catholic anymore I'm Eastern Orthodox now, so the answer is are my sins forgiven idk, but I know money isn't going to solve it.
Why do you not know?
Messiah Turducken Deathmatch - to be found on forgotten Christian Nu Metal Classics Vol. 3
Fantastic video as always. I was little disappointed that it wasn’t a Donnell and Connell video or Frank the hippie pope but oh well maybe next year.
How many of us are not kind of expecting Frank to be getting the world to worship an AI religious robot with something extra by next year? Not meant to be especially funny.
I love this!
i've been saying something like this in debate. When someone says "Jesus would do/say XYZ" I'm like "do you even beleive in Jesus to begin with?" Gets em every time.
that doesn't even make sense. "I believe a hypothetical first century rabbi who in my opinion didn't even exist would totally support my political views"
it makes no sense on any level.
What do you think about Christian people who do say they believe that Jesus is God/the Son of God, and based on their read of Scripture, do not believe that God the Father, the Son, or Holy Spirit condemn people for being queer, or for being a transgender man/woman? I understand if you've never met someone with this viewpoint to talk through theological differences and similarities. Would things look a little less black and white if you could share a pot of coffee and a box of donuts with such a person to talk?
And everybody clapped. That's not even a hard one to rebut: we're talking about your belief, not ours. Your scripture. And not every atheist is a mythicist who believes a Rabbi Yeshua ben-Yoseph couldn't have possibly existed in the first century CE. We believe Julius Caesar existed, we don't believe he ascended into the pantheon of Roman gods.
@@NieroshaiTheSable you don't have any grounds to talk about my beliefs. in a liberal democracy, I am entitled to have a say in law regardless of if you think my opinion is valid or not, just like you, and since you aren't a part of my faith community, you have no right to debate the teachings of someone you don't even believe is right.
@@NieroshaiTheSable Can you know a religion by studying it from the outside? I think it's more likely that a man could know what it's like to be pregnant just by reading a book about it
I’m a baptist, yet these are hilarious to me.
Hey, y’all ain’t too different from us. Lutherans are just what happens when a Baptist and a Catholic have an elderly and boring baby
Mere Christian Humor!!!
The differences between baptist and lutheran churches arent really big. Satan is the one who makes these differences look big.
@@WayneClark baptist is not a religion, its a church. Every church has its flaws, but local churches are biblically Gods plan. Those who doesnt want to be a part of a local church rebel against the Bible.
Any Christian will find this hilarious and true. No matter if you're Baptist or Catholic or Lutheran or Orthodox or Anglican.
I love how its a muppet telling you this.
And a sane muppet at that.
I'm Catholic and I _love_ these videos.
Same, this was spot on.
I'm Presbyterian and I love these too.
I am almost Eastern Orthodox and I love these videos
Christendom for all. God bless us.
@@cameron4339 ... Midwest Orthodox then? I understand there are many fine churches in Iowa... ;D
"Messiah tur-duck-in death match" might be the best phrase coined this millennia.
It's sad. I've had these conversations. And when you ask that question - "do you want to talk about the real issue here," the answer is always no.
I did have one guy try to take me up on my challenge though, and he spent some time reading through a bit of the NT to see if Jesus in the NT actually matched his conception of Jesus. It turns out (unsurprisingly) that he didn't like Jesus as he was portrayed in the NT.
Not surprising at all, lol.
"What? You mean Jesus actually had standards, profound theological points, he told Peko a out sin and told people to change? He wasn't just some cuddly-wuddly jelly bear who exists to tell you you're a-okay just the way you are no matter what you do? Forget that" lol
This is not only hilarious but a really helpful point to use in debate, thanks!
Not really, those of us with an extensive education on your bible can bludgeon you with it even if we don't believe in Jesus.
@@AlexHernandez-ee5hd careful! That horse is so high I don't think you can survive a fall!
Reminds me of an old meme that goes something like this:
"Did Jesus say you love others? No, I don't believe the Bible and have nothing but contempt for your backwards beliefs. This argument wouldn't work on me but I hope if I can twist your book's words against you, you'll just go along with whatever I want."
Nice Strawman.
Why can’t we all just get along?
@@Netbug009 if only it was a straw man, there are literally millions of people out there for whom the only Bible verse they know is judge not lest ye be judged', and they use it as a bludgeon to try to refute everything
@Richard Fox Once again, see the video.
@Richard Fox PFFT! I see now lol.
Great video as usual. I'm Catholic and I LOVE your channel! I think there are unfortunately too many believers who listen to secular media over Jesus' own words, and think Christianity is simply about being nice. I hope your channel continues to share the Truth in our troubled times, we certainly need it.
Ah, yes the classic 'Jesus was just a nice guy who wanted everyone to be kind a loving' take on Christianity. If that's all he was nobody would have wanted him dead, he was a revolutionary who was fighting for major societal changes, if we were to accept the premise that Jesus wasn't divine then he's a madman and a failed revolutionary whose opinion we shouldn't care about.
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj The key -- if we were to accept the premise. The trouble with the premise is that it's not supported by evidence. We have a 1st-century man who was raised Jewish and claimed to be God. This person then uniquely backed up that claim by performing miracles, fulfilling Messianic prophecies that had been around for centuries, and being raised from the dead.
Jesus was killed because He equated Himself with God; any cursory reading of any of the Gospels makes that obvious.
And Jesus did want people to be kind and loving; He even instructed followers to love their enemies -- those who would imprison and kill them. The last words on many Christian martyrs' lips are those of forgiveness.
@@PianoForte9096 Yes he wanted people to be kind and loving but to reduce his mission to that is an attempt to reduce Jesus into a comfortable easy to handle non entity who fits easily into whatever shape best suits our own preferences or desires without challenging us to do anything we don't want to.
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj I think we're on a similar side here. Jesus came to reconcile all of humankind to its Creator -- by becoming the path to salvation and inviting us to follow Him with all of our being. I wasn't trying to downplay anything.
@@PianoForte9096 Yes, I wasn't disagreeing, just trying to clarify that some people want to reduce Jesus into a 'nice guy' because then they aren't challenged to really make a change :). We follow a saviour who wants so much more than 'kindness', while I don't disagree that kindness is part of it sometimes the kindness involves correcting, sometimes it involves rebelling if laws/rules are unjust (e.g. laws preventing people from feeding the homeless). And he also wants more from us than being kind, as you say, he wants our whole being and our whole life.
I'm native San Franciscan. And self-proclaimed LBGSBC.
It's a counter to the culture in which I grew up. It means, "loved by God saved by Christ" take THAT ! LGBT...
Borrowing -stealing- that!
@@__.Sara.__ I take that as a compliment, thanks for letting me know.
Oooh! I didn’t know you had more videos posted! I loved this! Gonna share with everyone. If they don’t think he’s God, they’re not worth debating.
I’m an atheist and I respect religious people who at least believe in something.
Look into CS Lewis and George MacDonald.
@moonlitlove As a Christian, you go too far. To accuse an atheist of being hateful merely for their atheism is absurd.
Atheism is certainly an philosophy, if not an ideology, and there are good arguments that it takes about as much faith to claim that there is no god whatsoever than that any given god is the one true God.
The scripture you quoted is true, but there is no reason to bring it before this individual. They show clear respect for ideas different than their own, and for simply stating that they have a differing opinion you accuse them of hate? What purpose does it serve but to drive people away?
Hey! Don't bring logic, reason, and facts into this. Affriming someone's emotions are FAR more important!
Well done Pastor Hans! 👍😎
Why do you call him Pastor? Matthew 23:7-10
@@c-LAW It’s a courtesy because he is a called and ordained pastor of a congregation. We are a Confessional Lutheran Synod, not fundamentalists.
@@c-LAW Because that is his title. Your comment and quote is out of context. That passage is saying not to place any man equal to God. Throughout the Bible the leaders of people are called shepherds, often calling out the bad ones. Pastor means shepherd. The leaders of the church are to care for their flocks: us. Jesus is the Good Shepherd who gave His life for His sheep. Our Pastors are the subshepherds.
I think using the title pastor with a first name is kind of cringy, especially when “Master Hans” was the state executioner example in the Catechism.
@@tcschenks Whose Catechism? Not Luther's. Lutherans do not follow the RCC Catechism. Very few of us have read it and those for educational purposes only. (or to be able to accurately refute it) Why should we be influenced or restricted by something we do not accept?
Thank you for coming back, Lutheran Satire! This is spot on, as always.
Genuenliy thank you for reminding me that I should not care what non Christians think about the teachings of Christ.
I’ll have to remember to use this question to get to the heart of the debate. Encouraging, thank you!
Amazing video. Even as a Calvinist, I love this channel.
Hi. What is current Calvinism like?
@@sabinal17 please elaborate
it was inevitable. 😝
@@just-dl God is sovereign 🙏
Im not lutheran but I love your content it's always spot on.
I’m Reformed and I love Lutheran Satire!
Do you want a cookie?
@@1689solas I like chocolate chip or white chocolate macadamia. The bigger the chips, the better. Double chocolate and peanut butter are also good.
A reformed gay alcoholic ? But which one is it ?
@@peterflood8999 Not what he said or meant...
@@thomasecker9405 Get over it.
Those who go out of their way to openly blasphme Christ are in some ways easier to approach and deal with than those who claim he was basically the Buddha of the West who loved gay marriage and socialism.
Like they’re not trying to please everyone, unlike the faux-Christians
I think the Buddha points in the direction of Christ though.
@@christophersnedeker2065 Very different guys. Buddha was about escaping desire because desire leads to suffering, while also working to clean our own sin away; Christ was about us accepting Him so that we’d work with God in the spirit of the law, post-salvation, as pictured in Genesis 2 and Revelation 22. It’s works-based salvation vs faith-based.
@@jlupus8804 There are certainly differences but I think they where working along similar lines philosophically, I think Christianity's answer to Buddhism is why not suffering? Is there not some desires worth suffering for?
@@christophersnedeker2065 Okay, i think i see what you mean. Like "Buddha posed the problem and Jesus posed the solution"? Or "Buddha revealed the God-shaped hole and Jesus filled it"? Or the fact they both believed guilt and sin were more real than honor and shame?
This is more refined then what I came up with. Especially when they claimed they were raised Christian
"some warmed over Unitarian talking points". I'm crying.
What's your problem with Unitarians? Like really what could it be haha
Awesome. As Frank Turek puts it, when someone raises from the dead I'm inclined to believe what He says. So, as your satire points out, if people haven't come to that point, then they are the ones that don't have a leg to stand on. (and Satan said, "Sssstop talking about me pleasssse)
@Richard Fox That is a real problem. When Jesus rose from the dead, He didn't do it in a corner. In fact over 500 people saw Him at one time. If you lived back then you could interview these people, and they'd think you were crazy NOT to think He rose from the dead. It comes down to this, if Jesus didn't rise from the dead then there is salvation for NO ONE, but if He DID raise from the dead, salvation is available to everyone. Oh you can still reject it and His salvation. That's up to you. Now I have a personal relationship with Him, which would be pretty impossible if He did not rise from the dead. Think what you said through. On what basis do you make your claims? On what basis do we, as Christians, make ours?
@Richard Fox If I name the 11 apostles you won't accept the, although most of them were there at the time. Instead study your ancient historians. Tacitus wrote the following in 64AD, "Therefore, to stop the rumor, Nero substituted as culprits and punished in the utmost refinements of cruelty, a class of men, loathed for their vices, whom the crowd styled Christians. Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus, and the pernicious superstition was checked for a moment, only to break out once more, not merely in Judea, the home of the disease, but in the capital itself, where all things horrible or shameful in the world collect and find a vogue." Josephus wrote around 93AD, "There was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works-a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day." These are but 2 of non-Christian sources, both historians, that all but proclaim the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Now consider, we have all kinds of technology to get information to us almost immediately, but that wasn't the case 2000 years ago. Practically all the news was lost. Only those things that were outstanding remain written down. Of most of those 120 who were filled with the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, it seems only John died of natural causes, but not before they tried to boil him in oil first and then sent him to Patmos. Now ask yourself. Wouldn't it be much easier to say, "Yeah I was just making things up, than to die at the hands of the Romans?"
@Richard Fox I'm short on time, but if Tacitus actually wrote about the incident in 64AD he would be a journalist, not a historian, albeit a very young journalist. We can conclude that later in Tacitus' life he looked back and investigated the incident and wrote it as a historian.
@Richard Fox We only seem to have greater access because ot the Internet. At the time, most news never made it across the town or city. Some say that 99% of Tacitus' works were lost because of this.
You won't accept Tacitus because he was writing what "the Christians believed about Jesus." Yes, with an angry tongue. Now tell me why you won't consider Luke? Yes, Luke wrote 2 books in the New Testament, but he was NOT an apostle of Jesus or even Jewish. He was a Gentile who, it would seem, became a Christian under Paul's ministry. Luke was both a physician and a historian. The Gospel that carries his name begins by saying that he has investigated all these matters. The Acts of the Apostles, his 2nd book, is a history of how the church grew, from when Jesus was with them, to Peter's first sermon, the conversion of Sau[ of Tarsus and much more. If you want a non-Jews depiction of those times, read Luke. These people died for their belief. You don't die for a made up story.
@Richard Fox There are 4 Gospels and you are having trouble identifying their human authors. While Luke doesn't address himself by name in the Gospel that bears his name, we can see it is a letter he is writing to a person named Theophilus. He addresses this same person when he begins the book of Acts. Both times he sets himself outside those that knew Jesus personally, so everything he wrote down he has learned from those who have known him. I believe he's from Lystra, although I'm not sure about that, but was a Gentile who became a believer. Mark is usually assumed to be the earliest Gospel written, but who is Mark? Mark is better known as John Mark, a nephew of Barnabas. He was wealthy, young, and it is widely believed that he served under the Apostle Peter, and it was Peter's account of Jesus Mark wrote down. In Mark 14:51-52 it reads, "A young man followed Him, wearing a linen cloth around himself. And the young men laid hold of him, so he left the linen cloth, and fled from them unclothed." This is the only reference of a young man running away when Jesus was arrested. It is believed Mark was that man and added his part to the Gospel. Matthew, like Luke was educated, but not for an esteem position as Luke was. Matthew, also called Levi, was a tax collector, and as such had to know Aramaic, Greek, and Latin to make sure people made their payments. It's altogether possible he knew some Hebrew. He certainly knew the Law and the genealogy of Joseph. Matthew's Gospel may have been written in Aramaic first, but in order to spread it Gentiles translated it into Greek. This was not necessary with Mark or Luke. This brings us to John, whose style of writing differs from the other three. His Gospel comes later, but he focuses on Jesus' divinity rather than Jesus' humanity (both were needed for our salvation) This Gospel may also have originally have been written in Aramaic. John was a fisherman, not a NY Times best seller. Throughout this Gospel John refers to himself as the disciple that Jesus loved. Read John 21:20-25) and you will see that John is the author of this Gospel.
Thank you. As always, a great point stuffed inside humor.
So simple, yet so true. This will help prevent a lot of headaches.
👍 Excellent!!! Perfect apologetics!!! Oh how much I love Irony, how much this world does not understand it!!
Unfortunately I haven’t had much use for it, but the phrase “Messiah turducken deathmach” will forever be in my lexicon.
"Are you feeling lucky?"
"Well, do you, punk?"
No, I don't wants to talk about about Jesus, but if you wish to try and oppress people, we will debate bigotry.
Lol you're just proving his point.
@@movieforceofficial I really don't care if I misunderstood a book that plays no role in my life, I do care if people try and use said book to justify the withholding of human rights.
@@movieforceofficial The point is weak as all hell.
"You don't believe my book is fact, and I do, therefore my opinions outweigh yours".
That's just plain stupid. Someone could research the history of Zeus, and know almost everything there is to know about Zeus, all the books, fables, ect. And just because some guy thinks Zeus is a real god, who actually does whatever Zeus is supposed to do, in the real world, doesn't mean that guy knows more ab
out Zeus, and what Zeus would do.
Its just not a good point.
I wonder if Hans means he only cares what you have to say if you only agree with him?
I doubt very much he’s interested in a respectful debate about Jesus and the Bible since he deleted my previous comments, even though I didn’t call anyone names or say anything obscene.
I think it's less that, and more of him saying that if you don't accept Jesus as God, it's not worth it to debate what Jesus commanded His followers to do.
- A Catholic who does not share his opinion
@@PianoForte9096it would be nice if he clarified his position
@@Sonjacrow It would be, but considering that he's a full-time Lutheran pastor and a RUclipsr with 59k subscribers, it's unlikely. I just choose to give people the benefit of the doubt. Even if you weren't being intentionally provocative before, he's within his rights to delete comments from his videos. That can stink as the commenter, but at least it's better than "comments are turned off for this video."
@@PianoForte9096 he’s replied to other videos. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did that next. Christians usually say, “believe” and just expect that to happen.
When someone asks, “why” or “prove it,” they usually get bent out of shape
@@Sonjacrow I'm sorry that your discussions have been unfruitful if you're truly seeking. I know that RUclips comments are notoriously bad for discussions, but if you have any specific questions, I can point you to some resources.
Ok, so as a Christian who believes Jesus is God as the Second Member of the trinity and holds to orthodox theology, will you now care and have the conversation about how the verses in the New Testament which appear to condemn homosexuality have most likely been mistranslated, whether by accident or on purpose? I'm not even gay, but my commitment to understand the original message of Scripture has brought me to a position where I can't condemn those who are LGBT and at the same time are committed to following Christ and His ways. Note that I'm not talking about "Christians" who reject the deity of Christ and the authority of Scripture.
This song really minimizes and throws under the bus a huge ton of LGBT Christians who both believe and follow biblical inerrancy and the deity of Christ. It's not Christlike, and it isn't loving. Even if you continue to disagree with them on their interpretation of Scripture, you have to give them the respect as brothers and sisters in Christ, created in the image of God, who yes, DO want to talk about the nature of Jesus.
Quite right about not condemning people for any speck in their eyes who are part of God's creation. I also try not to condemn the bigots because of the log in my eye.
@@vinceturner3863 that is what I try to do as well, and as you said, it can be difficult. It's very easy to go from one version of fundamentalism to a completely opposite version of fundamentalism, where although one's positions change, one's attitude doesn't.
Never clicked so fast
Would you, please, help evangelicals understand how satire is supposed to work. As an evangelical, I have to commend you for hitting the nail on the head over and over again.
You cannot really help a whole group understand something. It has to be done one man at a time.
Ah, classic. “If you don’t agree with my ideology, I don’t want to have a discussion with you, because I’m scared you might bring up logical points that I can’t defend.”
As someone who has actually read the Bible and was Christian for most of my life, this video is honestly silly.
I've many profound disagreements on what the person making the video believes, but his point still stands that if you quote the bible to make a point without actually believing in it it's nothing more than a manipulation tactic unless you can cite scholarly sources or show your own accreditation (which the people doing that won't)
@@renren1641 you can criticize a piece of media without believing it’s good or true. As long as you’ve read it and understand the context surrounding whatever you’re quoting, there is no problem with quoting the Bible to prove a point. Jesus said to love the sinner and hate the sin, but people have used the Bible to justify slavery, ostracizing people for things they can’t control, and treat people like garbage (hate the sinner)without even addressing the sin.
Is it wrong to say that using the Bible to justify terrible acts is bad, just because you don’t believe that the thing is true?
No. The argument presented in this video is silly and nonsensical. You can criticize peoples hypocrisy without having to subscribe to their belief. Saying otherwise is ridiculous.
So, did you read and understand the context surrounding the verse in Scripture where Jesus said to love the sinner, hate the sin? Doubtful since Jesus never said such a thing.
I’m still met with comments from people who have never read the Bible saying “Do not judge.”
Exactly. Unbelievers quoting the Bible: Priceless.
"Hey man, like, even Jesus said not to cast the first stone..."
Okay but what if they do affirm the deity of Christ
Then their mouths will be shut...
Then we talk about that stuff!
@@TheLutheranSatire fair. I guess in general we move from orthodoxy (affirming the Trinity, the Bible as the inerant word of God, salvation by grace alone through faith alone) to secondary issues and that's the main point of the video.
We need a 2nd and possibly a 3rd video on THAT subject.
@@TheLutheranSatire no you don't you insist they aren't "real christians" then pull this same nonsense lol
do you think lgbt christians don't already know this came dude
Thank you Pastor Fiene! this is great!
Once again I'm an atheist guy romantically interested in men and I find this entertaining I set it on the next video but I saw that one first.
Anyway don't care to debate you on this on any topic whatsoever just keep making these videos and I'll laugh right along with you
@@Mygoalwogel What you don't seem to realize is that the first and second halves of this comment contradict each other
@@henrylansing9734
Yes, I stated that badly. Thanks. I'll try to clarify.
I know a Confessional Lutheran pastor who is attracted to men. He believes he ought not act on it and that God has called him to celibacy. Lutherans_satire's point is that no Christian who wishes to obey the plain sense of the New Testament may give themself license to obey same-sex attraction.
I hope you've over come this sin. It's been a year since you posted but I really will pray for you.
I appreciate the bluntness here.
Well done Hans, didn’t know you had a nice singing voice! 😃
Watch his Christmas songs video where his Luther sings a hymn.
Nah, dude. Jesus was totally about love and stuff and was, like, a really cool guru, basically. I mean, I’ve literally never read a single Gospel account in its entirety or bothered to do any research on the historical Jesus whatsoever, but I can speak authoritatively about what Jesus taught because reasons. Also, Jesus was a communist and totally liked all the things I like. “Love is love.”-Jesus, probably.
Lol
💀💀💀
real Jesus : don't you fucking dare go eating Prawns.
@@ThatGuy-eu2vt Not quite.
“And he called the people to him again and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.” And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.””
Mark 7:14-15, 17-23
I'm a devout, dyed in the wool, hard core, card carrying, infidel. And I absolutely love your channel. Keep it up!
Also, more Donall and Conall (sp) please.😊
Hehehe ... lost it at "warmed over Unitarian talking points." Thank you from a Baptist.
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If you’re gonna bash us over the head with your ideology, the least you can do is show you’re consistent.
Love your content. Thanks for sharing your talent this way.
“Messiah turducken death match” is a phrase I have heard now 🤣🤣
Well, this is when I think YT algorithm is not completely ruined.
I think we'd all prefer to get back to typing in all caps, using all the swears, and relying on name calling. Thank you.
Well that's what it really comes down to. Good point.
I've had debates about what Jesus said about the poor, gays, economics, etc. with atheists who say that Jesus never even existed.
Finally a new video! Excellent as always
On a serious note.....I like how you presented this..not a political jab...just saying do you believe Jesus is God....no....then clearly we don't have the same Jesus in mind
actually a banger tho
Brilliant! I honestly never thought of it this way
"Well Jesus is a gay socialist."
-The atheist who listened to a Neo Marxist podcast one time and has no affiliation with Christianity at all beyond the "i was religiously traumatized." Melodrama.
Welp, ya just got another subscriber!
I'll def share so keep it coming!!
One need not even use belief in Christ as the litmus test, but rather simply belief in the existence of sin. Like, if somebody gets mad because you think _x_ is a sin, but they don't even believe in the _existence_ of sin, then what the heck are they really complaining about? Or if somebody gets made because you think people who commit _x_ will go to Hell, but they don't even believe in the existence of Hell, once again what the heck are they really complaining about?
(Presumably, what they're _really_ mad about is that they're afraid you believe people who commit _x_ should be _punished_ here on Earth by the Earthly authorities, but that doesn't necessarily follow and is usually a strawman argument.)
Even an Atheist's arguments about The Bible are relevant if they claim to be using the book itself as a source. They could be right and in the western world many if not most non-believers grew up around or in a religion that they had to examine before deciding to leave.
Only if they read in light of the context of scripture and the context of the way of the Faith
The only true cruel sin going on here is reminding us of Unitarian talking points. Oh the horror...
So How how do you know the Gospels are accurate or reliable at all?
Gary Habermas demonstrates that if we whittle down the NT to only those portions that secular scholars agree are authentic, we still come away with the very earliest Christians worshiping Jesus and insisting that he returned from death in a literal bodily way.
Because the witnesses to the events of the Gospels were tortured to death rather than recant their testimony.
Yes, all other major religions have martyrs as well. But none of them faced that kind of persecution for things that they would know were absolutely, factually false. That's what sets the Christian narrative apart.
Messiah Tur-duck-en Deathmatch! Always great to see an update!
Protestant/Baptist here because of RUclips computer magic:
This is fantastic.
Ironic that Christians will often insert their own beliefs onto God too. Everyone seems to want to tell you what God thinks.
To quote my favorite musician. "Never trust a man who puts his words into the mouth of God and says it's absolute truth. It's lies and it smells like death!"
I have been watching your channel for a while and like your videos, but I gotta ask, what do you think about Neo-Marcionites like me? I affirm Jesus is God but reject YHWH as being a completely alien god to that of Christ.
Hmm, what do you mean by that?
Messiah turducken deathmatch
Three words I never though I'd hear in one sentence.
Well, guess I can’t bring the Old Testament into this then…
My cousin is a Bishop of a certain British-related American denomination. He and his wife differ on politics, making a dashing James Carville and Mary Matlin kind of pair. My cousin wanted to set me straight, that he was not one of the more liberal bishops, not affirming gay marriage or ordination. But when it came to Jesus, He was kind of a subject of ridicule, as if He was a silly figure, obviously nothing but the Noble Lie for Americans, and it was ridiculous to believe in Him. When other family members laughed along, I was broken-hearted. I wanted to talk about it, but when I tried, the whole family got very angry with me. I had just been told to consider myself a sister, but when I tried to discretely voice my concern, they dropped me like a hot potato. It seems one's Christianity always being about salvation and the Savior, as if He is real, and we need Him, is offensive.
The wife (they live 220+ miles away) even brought Meals on Wheels to my building, with another sneering woman, to mock me and gnash their teeth upon me on the elevator ride down! This is the more liberal member of the family, who plays old hymns on the piano every week, yet hates anything more Christian than _The Secret Lives of Bees, Harry Potter,_ or _The Life of Pi._ Anyway, I've seen it for myself: "The Church of the Holy Gentrification" is all too real.
As the bumper sticker says, sadly, "E_______ianism Saves!"._ If I could, I would ask them, Saves what or whom? Saves from what, for what? Saves face? What possible difference could it make? They could never imagine that you _care_ for them, and that the opportunity to use them for holiday food and presents and company, and a regular drive out into the country twice a year, was not worth keeping quiet about this most important issue in life. Caring about _their souls_ is _insulting_ and absurd. There is absolutely no way to make them get it. I could try not mentioning them in public to prove it, I guess, but this is the only way I can think of that they'd have to hear me out. I'll probably never talk to them in person, again.
Is there going to be a remake of Shut Up About Covid This Christmas Song this year?
Why am I only getting this notification now 😭
Love your videos!
the word homosexual wasn’t in any bible until the last century. you’ve been had
Is your brain working alright?
It described the action. This is a bad argument. The word Trinity isn't in the bible, why do you believe it?
It is described that's why.
@@Dominic-Atkinson it was “man shall not lie with child” until the 1900’s
@@beebo- That is false. The bible condemns homosexuality in the new testament too.
Paul literally made up a word to very specifically describe homosexuality in Greek. We know what it translates to, and it's homosexuality not pedophilia
This video is the perfect length to post as a response.
1:00 stand by for Unitarian roast 🤣😂🤣. This is actually a very helpful approach. 👍🏻
“Messiah turducken deathmatch” 😂🤣☠️💀
I love Lutherans especially in October and November. ❤️❤️
So this video is about how to evade the debate.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In Him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
The Bible says that God created the Heavens and the earth. It also says that Jesus was the Word in the beginning, was with God and was God. It goes on to say that through Jesus all things were made. Jesus is the Creator of all things. Pretty clear. Jesus is Lord, the Creator of all things, the Great I Am, El Shaddai. Jesus is God.
Love this video.I would have loved to hear Donnell and Connell's take on this.
RUclips served me up an ad about polyamory. They must be going based off keywords.
May I recommend something about homosexuality in the Bible? It’s called GeekyJustin’s great debate. It’s an article. The guy also has a YT channel. May I have y’all’s opinions on it?
No matter how many articles they write on how it's OK to have homosexual sex and the bible is outdated and if Jesus was alive today he'd be cool with it......according to the bible homosexuality is a sin. That's the word of God.
Messiah Turducken Deathmatch!!! Perfect little song. Thank you!
Messiah Turducken Death Match for the win!
"Messiah Turducken Death Match" would make a great band name.
Nailed it! Great video!
This might be my favorite song ever
When does this go on spotify😆 I would listen to it
Anybody want to form a band called Messiah Turducken Death-match?
Wow. Saved me a lot of time debating people where there is no foundation to build on. Thanks 😊
Strong work as always Pastor Hans.
Do a song about feminism and Mary.
0:52 You forgot Revelation 1:8 = I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
I think a part 2 song is in order well done.
I like how he’s not even anti lgbt. He’s just saying to not abuse religion for politics.