These are great but just find them a bit bulky, especially when fitting in a ceiling with pir insulation. Haven’t used the collingwood ones but click flow ones
Great video. Could you make another video please explaining how to run a 2 way switch with the power at the first switch? Be a great help. Thanks in advance. Keep it up.
Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method How to Connect up 2 Way Switches (Connections Explained) ruclips.net/video/t_tFDV9K0Sw/видео.html This link is available for a limited time 🦾. Hope it helps. Gaz
Hi great video! What if it’s a loop in at the switch similar to this but there is a switch live, neutral, earth at the ceiling rose ? Would you just need to take the switch live , N and earth straight to the first down light ? How would it work Thanks
Hi Gary - another great video. This shows us how to add more than one light (e.g. downlights) in the same room controlled by 1 switch but can you also use the 2 plate method to control the lights in another room controlled by its own switch? How do you get the power to the second switch or do you simply need to run another cable from the consumer unit?
Wiring Diagram 2 Plate Method - Taking the Feed to Another Room or Switch Connection Explained ruclips.net/video/R3_eXKo1NFQ/видео.html Hope this helps 🦾
Hi, can you just keep adding lamps? I’m looking at putting 5 LED down lights in the bathroom. Also, in my old house the lights had transformers. You don’t need them for these?
This may be a stupid question. If you were rewiring a lighting circuit in a house using the two plate method, the aim being to cut down on wires to the light at the ceiling, do you have to use junction boxes, or have three cables into/out of each switch plate? Or is there another cunning method? Thanks
Complete novice here but in theory if I brought 10 of the light fittings and everything in this video could I fit them as you’ve done just continuing the chain?
Hi. I'm a complete beginner when it comes to wiring lights. My questions are: 1. What cable is required 2. What size fuse for led 3. What replaces a transformer to get from 240v to LED voltage
1.5mm² 6A BS 60898 MCB is most common and RCD protection is vital for lighting circuits as we need to make sure the neutral is continous at all times. This will be perfect for LEDs but other lamps possibly might need thinking about. 240V to ELV transformer is within the downlight itself I believe. Us sparks hate joists for that reason, if the transformer bit wasn't there they wouldn't be as big and much easier to install but downlights would never be made this way.
Hi I am trying to get my head round a problem. I have an led bar light that I am using on an aquarium it's rated at 860 watts????. I am also using an ad to dc transformer that is rated at 1.2 kW on the output side. When I attach my watt plug to this unit it only shows me 80 watts approx on the meter, on the mains side. Am I correct in thinking that the unit at 860 watts is incorrect or is there some difference between wattage at 12 volts wattage and wattage at 240 v. I hope you can understand my meaning here does the wattage decrease at 240 volts. The reason is I want to add another 860w unit but if they are in fact 860w it will overload my transformer. Although it would take a hell of an led light to actually give 864w. Regards Martin steele
@@GSHElectrical Or you buy a fitting that takes G10 bulbs and save trashing the plasterboard ceiling every time you pull the fitting out. Hate those b******d spring clamps.
@@b21playa No, the "receiver" for the cable core is too deep inside the unit. But they are great for extending lighting circuits and wiring up a rose (i.e. loop in / loop out, switch and load). If the light has stranded cable then I would use some Wagos inside a Wago lighting box just before the light fitting.
Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Connections Explained for 2 Way and Intermediate Switching (3 Way) ruclips.net/video/B4m-dn6PKQU/видео.html This link was private I will turn it off again later today. Hope it helps. Gaz 🦾
I have made a 2 way and 2 way and intermediate videos but not yet released - it’s just a case of taking line, neutral and cpc from the switch to the next room and you start again. Gaz 👍
@@GSHElectrical GREAT videos Gav thanks .. on extending into the next room ... are you simply taking the next feed from the switch COM (so now two wires here) and an additional neutral connection ?
@@GSHElectrical I also asked this question on another of your videos, what would be the easiest way to distribute the cabling from one switch to the other in the scenario of masonry walls and RCC slabs and not dry walls?
Do the maths. You know the current rating of an MCB/RCBO for a lighting circuit and the current rating of the wire (NOT 2.5mm^2). You should know how many watts each LED lamp draws.
@@GSHElectrical sorry to hear that. Sounds like covid. P.s if you don't need the earth then why can't you just replace with 2core and then wire lights in series with wago. Rather than use big old expensive quick conecotors? Or was wago not about 2years ago?
Yous are the boys but here is one for you how to fix, when apprentice drills into a cable plastered and running thu plastic trunking OK it was me but were is the point of having a apprentice if you can't blame him always test before drilling hole, battery was dead good answer I got a emergency phone call and had to go home immediately of course haha jacked the job in.How to fix your mistakes we have all done them yip
Worst connectors ever made, if you place 2 twin and earth, one ends up not biting. And comes out, causing the lights to flicker. The t connector case doesn’t even close properly, feels cheap and flimsy material. Without doubt the worst type of connector I’ve ever used, would even use screws rather than this garbage
hy im new in uk . im studing in electrical . im watch your videos and learn better . thanks
Thank you so much for crystal clear explanation.
Thanks for the great comment 👍🏻
Thanks Gary. Great demo.
Thanks 👍🏻
Absolutely brilliant as always
Thanks 👍🏻
These are great but just find them a bit bulky, especially when fitting in a ceiling with pir insulation. Haven’t used the collingwood ones but click flow ones
Excellent video, thank you for sharing. Just what i needed :-)
Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻
Nice video.
Question... In your opinion how many downlights can you have on one circuit?
Great video. Could you make another video please explaining how to run a 2 way switch with the power at the first switch? Be a great help. Thanks in advance. Keep it up.
Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method How to Connect up 2 Way Switches (Connections Explained) ruclips.net/video/t_tFDV9K0Sw/видео.html
This link is available for a limited time 🦾. Hope it helps. Gaz
Hi great video! What if it’s a loop in at the switch similar to this but there is a switch live, neutral, earth at the ceiling rose ?
Would you just need to take the switch live , N and earth straight to the first down light ? How would it work
Thanks
Great video, nice and neat 👍
Excellent video Gaz, tell me can I house these easy fit connectors amongst loft insulation and the loft flooring safely?
Hi Gary - another great video.
This shows us how to add more than one light (e.g. downlights) in the same room controlled by 1 switch but can you also use the 2 plate method to control the lights in another room controlled by its own switch? How do you get the power to the second switch or do you simply need to run another cable from the consumer unit?
Wiring Diagram 2 Plate Method - Taking the Feed to Another Room or Switch Connection Explained ruclips.net/video/R3_eXKo1NFQ/видео.html
Hope this helps 🦾
would we still get continuity and polarity with these class 2 lights if they require no earth wire?
I love the very easy to follow videos. Can you please recommend a touch 1 gang 2 way touch dimmer switch for my led dimmable downlight?
For those of us unsure, do you need to press those levers down holding each conductor? It looks like once the cable is in it should be pressed down
No, you press them down when you want to remove the conductor.
@@haydandraper6290 Thanks that's really helpful to know!
Hi, can you just keep adding lamps? I’m looking at putting 5 LED down lights in the bathroom. Also, in my old house the lights had transformers. You don’t need them for these?
This may be a stupid question. If you were rewiring a lighting circuit in a house using the two plate method, the aim being to cut down on wires to the light at the ceiling, do you have to use junction boxes, or have three cables into/out of each switch plate? Or is there another cunning method? Thanks
Wish you had this for U.S. current.
Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏻
The downlights are marked as SELV, are they suitable to be connected direct to mains voltage?
Complete novice here but in theory if I brought 10 of the light fittings and everything in this video could I fit them as you’ve done just continuing the chain?
Hi. I'm a complete beginner when it comes to wiring lights. My questions are:
1. What cable is required
2. What size fuse for led
3. What replaces a transformer to get from 240v to LED voltage
1.5mm²
6A BS 60898 MCB is most common and RCD protection is vital for lighting circuits as we need to make sure the neutral is continous at all times. This will be perfect for LEDs but other lamps possibly might need thinking about.
240V to ELV transformer is within the downlight itself I believe. Us sparks hate joists for that reason, if the transformer bit wasn't there they wouldn't be as big and much easier to install but downlights would never be made this way.
LED strips have a seperate transformer as they can not be built within (unlike downlights). This works just as effective
Hi I am trying to get my head round a problem.
I have an led bar light that I am using on an aquarium it's rated at 860 watts????.
I am also using an ad to dc transformer that is rated at 1.2 kW on the output side.
When I attach my watt plug to this unit it only shows me 80 watts approx on the meter, on the mains side.
Am I correct in thinking that the unit at 860 watts is incorrect or is there some difference between wattage at 12 volts wattage and wattage at 240 v.
I hope you can understand my meaning here does the wattage decrease at 240 volts.
The reason is I want to add another 860w unit but if they are in fact 860w it will overload my transformer.
Although it would take a hell of an led light to actually give 864w.
Regards Martin steele
Hi great video.
Can I ask you what is the current rating of the fuse in the plug top of the mains test lead that is used for RCD testing at the socket
Not sure you would need to be up a ladder to fit plug to downlighter. Do any on table before hand and then plug them in.
Could I use the same method to connect 10 led around my conservatory ceiling?? Thank you
Yes
Might be stupid question, how on earth do you change the bulb?
You replace the fitting 👍🏻
@@GSHElectrical
The whole thing, it's just been put in!
@@GSHElectrical Or you buy a fitting that takes G10 bulbs and save trashing the plasterboard ceiling every time you pull the fitting out. Hate those b******d spring clamps.
I have used the Quickwire connectors at home for lighting. Really nice and compact and far easier to use than these IMO.
Justin Phillips can you connect a flex with those type of connectors?
@@GSHElectrical Good point, no you cant, just solid core.
Justin Phillips could you use ferrules on them ?
@@b21playa No, the "receiver" for the cable core is too deep inside the unit. But they are great for extending lighting circuits and wiring up a rose (i.e. loop in / loop out, switch and load). If the light has stranded cable then I would use some Wagos inside a Wago lighting box just before the light fitting.
They are bringing out a adaptor to over come this
what if the power input is only live and neutral?
Do we not use chocolate boxes and tape anymore?
🤣🤦🏻♂️👍🏻
Can you do the intermediate 2 way light switch vid please Gazz?
Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Connections Explained for 2 Way and Intermediate Switching (3 Way) ruclips.net/video/B4m-dn6PKQU/видео.html
This link was private I will turn it off again later today. Hope it helps. Gaz 🦾
@@GSHElectrical Thanks, Gazz, it's still private!
Is there a version of this video where you show how to wire multiple rooms using the two plate method?
I have made a 2 way and 2 way and intermediate videos but not yet released - it’s just a case of taking line, neutral and cpc from the switch to the next room and you start again. Gaz 👍
@@GSHElectrical GREAT videos Gav thanks .. on extending into the next room ... are you simply taking the next feed from the switch COM (so now two wires here) and an additional neutral connection ?
@@GSHElectrical I also asked this question on another of your videos, what would be the easiest way to distribute the cabling from one switch to the other in the scenario of masonry walls and RCC slabs and not dry walls?
If I had a penny for every time I’ve had to go down a ladder to find those pesky screws 😂
😂👍🏻
Can you use this method to fit numerous downlights to a single switch, also is there a max number. Thanks
Yes you can 👍. This will help for the maximum number of LED downlights www.efixx.co.uk/Know%20How/part-l-domestic-lighting-cpd
How many led down lighters can we run off the single 2.5 cable power source pls guy's?
Should be 1.5 ... its all depend on the wattage. But loads anyway
Do the maths. You know the current rating of an MCB/RCBO for a lighting circuit and the current rating of the wire (NOT 2.5mm^2). You should know how many watts each LED lamp draws.
Shakey jake! What you cold or something?
I had a medical issue at the time
@@GSHElectrical sorry to hear that. Sounds like covid.
P.s if you don't need the earth then why can't you just replace with 2core and then wire lights in series with wago. Rather than use big old expensive quick conecotors?
Or was wago not about 2years ago?
This would be far easier or quicker if both sides were push fit still need to mess about up steps with small grub screws and screwdrivers
And I’ll hufff and I’ll pufff!! And I’ll
I have a medical connection 🦾
Cpc??
Yous are the boys but here is one for you how to fix, when apprentice drills into a cable plastered and running thu plastic trunking OK it was me but were is the point of having a apprentice if you can't blame him always test before drilling hole, battery was dead good answer I got a emergency phone call and had to go home immediately of course haha jacked the job in.How to fix your mistakes we have all done them yip
so this is not a ring main ,u just connect the last light
God this stuff makes my eye twitch.
I don't mean to be rude or impose, why are you shaking..
You are being rude and imposing. It's none of your business. Great vid GSH, always learning something new.
Shaking and breathing heavy… it was hard to watch.
Why are you a bellend
Shaky
why ur hands shaking so much
Medical issue
Worst connectors ever made, if you place 2 twin and earth, one ends up not biting. And comes out, causing the lights to flicker.
The t connector case doesn’t even close properly, feels cheap and flimsy material. Without doubt the worst type of connector I’ve ever used, would even use screws rather than this garbage