Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Taking the Feed to the Switch and Connecting a 1 Way Switch & Light
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2024
- In this video we look at a lighting circuit using the 2 plate method and I explain the connections within a one gang 1 way switch. The 2 plate method takes the feed (supply) to the switch and is often used in installation that have lots of downlights fitted (LED) because it reduces the number of cables at the lighting points..
== 🕐 Time Stamps - Cut to the action 🕕 ==
00:00 - 2 plate method
00:35 - The reason the 2 plate method is used in new domestic installation when LED downlight are installed
00:44 - Only one cable at the lighting point
01:06 - Connections in the consumer unit
01:36 - Consumer unit with a 30mA for additional protection of the lighting circuit
02:05 - 6 amp type B MCB
02:24 - 6 amp type B MCB 30mA type A RCBO
02:57 - 6 amp type B MCB 30mA type A RCBO and AFDD device
04:02 - Feed coming into the switch and cable going out to the lighting point
04:37 - Both blue conductors at the switch are neutrals
04:45 - Connecting the CPC's at the switch
06:33 - Connecting the neutrals at the switch into a Wago connector
07:58 - Connecting up the one way switch
09:33 - Summary of the connection at the switch when using the 2 plate method
09:55 - Connection in the lighting point when using the 2 plate method
10:54 - Summary of learning when using the 2 plate method when wiring lights
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This has got to be one of the most straight forward switch video I have come across especially for a novice 👍
Thanks 👍🏻
Absolutely fantastic video... clear precise and not condescending.
All tutors should be like this... great job Gaz
Thanks for watching and the great comment 👍
I wish all instructional videos on RUclips were this good. Thank you!
Mike massive thanks for watching and the support. Gaz 👍🏻
These are awesome videos, really helped me over the past 2 years coming up on the tools!
I think this is one of the best videos you have produced Mr GSH 🦾
You mate single handily helped me wire my garden office. From switches to lights to sockets. Thank you very much.
What a great teacher. Fantastic video! Thank you. I will be watching your others before I wire up my new shed.
Excellent video. I taught joinery for many years and used the same mantra: state, re-state, re-enforce. I look forwards to learning more from your great presentations.
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This is just beautiful to watch. Have been close to burn out with work for the last months and now my job ended and I can focus on my apartment, replacing lightswitches, adding new lights and sockets and to watch/listen to you, is super calming as too, informative. Thank you very much for your efforts!
Thanks for the great comment and watching 👍🏻
Super-clear, and super-useful. Thanks for making it simple and elegant.
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Another great clip to help thank you Gary
The best tutor by a country mile. I wish he could be cloned and put into every classroom.
Massive thanks for the positive comment 👍🏻
Great video, thanks for taking the time to create and share. Used this technique to wire in the lights for my garden cabin.
Had to do this in college and was so confused. This helped a lot.
Wiring Diagram Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Taking the Feed to the Switch - 1 Way Switch & Light ruclips.net/video/A19SCa6FUss/видео.html
This may also help 🦾. Thanks for commenting. Gaz
Thanks for explaining the 2 plate method so clearly.
Why is it called 2 plate
@@davidseed2939 it's using 2 plates in the ceiling rose instead of 3
What an excellent instructor. Thank you for a very helpful video!
middleagedpunk thanks
Agree nicely explained.
Hi as a sparky in Austraila, have been taking the cables to the switch for years, one cable at the light fitting and most connections can be done on the floor, not up a ladder. The earth conductor, sorry CPC has been insulated for about 35 years. Great to see how different countries carry out electrical works. England appears to use a lot of SWA, where we use PVC conduit and single/double insulated cables.
Been looking for this simple explanation all day, thank you.
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Great video and teaching, thanks for posting it.
Brilliant well explained and easy to do I want to do this in all my bedrooms to make them safe as I have an old house with old wining thanks buddy well done cheers
Thank you for this video, had to wire up two lights in my garage, you made this make complete sense!!
Thanks Gaz familiar with the wiring but always forget the terminology. Thanks for reminding me of two plate method. Good video for new learners and a reminder for old boys like myself.
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Ive been en using method for a while now,mainly because it makes the whole circuit servicable with no hidden junction boxes or things to fail.
Interesting stuff. I now use dry liner boxes instead of metal, to reduce any effect on smart devices used.
Great point 👍🏻
Absolutely fantastic.
thank you.
These tuition presentations are a great help and very easy to follow, many thanks.
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@@GSHElectrical thank you, brilliant 👏
Explained so well.. love it
Great method, used it years ago when wall lights were all the rage! no room for loop-in behind a wall light normally.
Great comment
Thanks very much for this video and well explain of the two plate method. I have learn more from this video.
great video, both concise but with all the detail.
A very neat installation and in many circumstances, this is so much better than having lots of cables at the ceiling rose.
The only thing I am not keen on and I do realise they have uses is the traditional shallow back box, if I was chopping this into a wall I would go for a 25mm socket back box if it was possible.
Great advice 👍
Gaz .. I have been watching all your new lighting vids .. Thanks .. they are excellent 🏆 . A vid that goes on to show connections to multiple downlighters, and also 2-way, using 2 plate would be ace 👍 (when you have a gap in your 14 hour working day !!)
Really straight forward, currently an apprentice and these videos help !!
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Clear and easy to understand. Excellent channel.
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Thanks for sharing this, very helpful. 👍🏽
Spot on in every way, just so easy to understand ! Many thanks & keep up the good work.
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I am still amazed at the archaic use of the twin and earth cables.... but at least finally I see the use of RCBO’s adopted
brilliant video, explanation, visuals 👌
You should make a video on how to install a CU and keep the fire rating , all these videos and pictures on youtube off nice neat boards but leaving big holes everywhere.
Thanks for sharing 😎
Good to see you doubling the conductor ends. I worked out that was the best way when I first learnt electrics - at the age of 13 ;) !!!
Brilliant this video was exactly what I was looking for 👍
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Great man & great video.. Thank you so much
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Thank you so much mate you dont understand how much you have helped me
Not a problem 👍
Brilliant teaching method , better then collage
As usual Gaz, excellent presentation. Thanks.👍
Massive thanks 🦾
@@GSHElectrical do you know it's Sunday? Put you feet up and sip a beer. Stop working. But, the trouble you took to reply was appreciated.
Just sat down with a large glass of wine... my wife has a channel so no rest for me 🤣.
These videos are golden mate great work
Massive thanks for the kind words 👍
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Very helpful thankyou
fantastic loved it
clear concise perfect thANK YOU
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
very helpful, thank you!
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I feel good! Pro proving I'm correct to do what I do. I've had to redo sloppy work by most registered professional electricians I've ever used so I worked out how to do it this way - long wires in box, fold over, keep wires as clean as possible, sleeving the correct size for wires, Wago connectors And I scrape out every trace of plaster or paint.
I think I've found a solid, diligent domestic electrician for my next job - new up to the minute consumer units with separate circuits for each kitchen appliance.
Fab as usual, thanks!
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Great video Gaz as always 👍 I've bin using this method alot recently with all the rewires having down lights ..... acne of the ceiling 🤣
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Exceptionally clear Gaz well done GSH.
I am glad you are recommending installation of AFDD-RCDs Type A breakers for circuits. That’s also the latest advice in the USA NEC 2020 standard. I would also put in for the socket and lighting circuits, AFDD-RCDs at the first socket protecting the downstream sockets and lights thereafter. Not sure these have taken off in the UK - Leviton do that here as do Schneider, Square D, Hubbell, Eaton, GE.
Offering two points of equipment and personal protection
1.) From breaker to socket/light
2.) from first socket to all other sockets/lights.
This provides two safety points and protects against failure. Latest version of RCD and AFDD are much better in handling Mix of AC and DC equipment in residential circuits especially transient and over voltages. Add surge protection class 1 and 2 and you’ve layers multiple protection making residences more stable and safer.
Once that’s sorted you move onto power quality issues but that’s a whole different ball game but one that’s going to be very important in the future.
Thanks for the very detailed comment 🦾. Gaz
Very Sad that it AFDD will become more prominent in the UK in the years to come in lieu of investing in the training of skilled electricians and stop allowing cheap crap to be sold in the UK. AFDD will only make suppliers rich, but will not make any difference to a fire started or deaths in the household due to electrical fires.
Fantastic Video , helps a lot on my course . Thank you
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Great vid once again, thanks for sharing.🐵
Excellent thank you
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Undoubtedly the best way of doing it for several reasons. Firstly you're not working above your head trying to wire up a load of cables into a pendant that will probably be removed to install a fancy fitting so all the wires end up in a mess in a choc block and secondly you don't have the issue of confusion with a blue switch return invariably not sleeved being wired to the neutral but you did mention that. Also the wago connectors are brilliant.
What if you needed an unswitched line conductor at the ceiling position for a fan or life and safety detection like smoke, heat or CO2 ?
You'd be stuffed with the two plate method.
Excellent👍
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Excellent video ,thank you very much.
How things have changed since I was doing this!
Very well explained thanks, a big help.
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Thank you mate much appreciate should be able to keep my job now haha 😂 ⚡️
I moved from the UK to NZ and here we always have the feeds through the switches. No old UK ceiling roses here. I prefer it, even though switches can get very busy. Just my personal choice, but I don't use the loop terminal for the neutral. I put common neutrals and Earths all in their own connector block stuffed into the back of the flush box, so there are only lives at the switches. I like deeper boxes too. I hate having to stuff cables into tight areas. Also I never use 1.0m for lights. Always 1.5.
to add another benefit to this, this is future proof as many smart switches require both L&N to work so having this at the switch is handy and future proof :)
very good video thank you for sharing this video.
Nice one, thanks!!
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Gary many years ago when I was an apprentice taking a neutral through the switch was a no no. Never did understand why, makes wiring much simpler. Trouble is picking a new feed up from a wall switch plastered in switch box could be messy.
Most lighting circuits were spidered out from one of those square BICC junction boxes. Happy days !
That's why you put brown sleeve on the blue wire to tell you it's not two plate.
Brilliant as always Gaz. Can you demonstrate how you would add a 2 way and intermediate switches to the 2 plate system.
I find it funny people say doesn’t matter what way feed and switchline go but always put feed in common, when I use a 2 way switch for a 1way light I always put feed in L1 and switchline in common that way L2 is not live when switch is off, also make sure switch is up correct way before screening back to box
I wish I had your skill and knowledge...
Cool stuff, thanks
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This is the best way for modern light fittings as well as smart switches needing a neutral to operate. Another note you don’t need to double over those CPCs if you have 2 in the same terminal.
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Thanks Gary, very clear video, but are you allowed to have a “floating ” connection inside the switch box (the cpc is fixed but the N is not). I appreciate it’s common practice, but does it strictly comply?
thanks really helpful. how would you take that switch to another room with a separate switch and spotlights would you connect a live to l2 and neutrals to the connector block and then move it to the next switch?
Hi I'm doing my am2e next week. When I was originally at college you didn't have to double over. Do you have to do it now as I thought it came and went.
definetly intereting watch. been looking at reskilling into a trade as been stuck in unskilled roles for a while. just need to find an apprenticeship somewhere.
Using a knife to strip that cable is like using a fork to eat soup!
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Great video. So clear!.
I have a question. Ive swapped switches to smart switches requiring no neutral in my 1st bedroom. I have 3 brown wires going in at the switch. Neutral (Blues) not used & are blocked off. I identified 1 of the 3 browns as live, guessing that makes the others a switched live? I've put the 2 into the L1 and the single live into the com. (also switched this combo). But now the other lights upstairs (bathroom bedroom) have no power when I switch off the bedroom light.
From your video, I am thinking that one of the two brown wires that have no current running through, must be the feed out of this room to the rest of the upstairs? Any suggestions on how I can identify what each of the brown wires do, so I can fix this?
Thanks
Neutral at the switch allows for retrofitting of smart switches that require a neutral.
One of the biggest things to come through the industry behind your decision to include it.
Nice video, thanks. I followed this for a simple light under our stairs using a live feed terminated there by previous owner. The little tester pen shows current to the bulb when the switch is on but the bulb doesn’t light - any ideas!?
Have checked bulb and the fitting also.
Really enjoy the content. Spot on for an improved like me 👌
Thanks
Thanks for this, just what I needed. Quick question….
I have used this exact layout for a new bathroom area in an out building. Can I add an extractor fan to the switch?
You doubled over them browns spot on 😂👌
Great video, I have a 2 gang 1 way light switch I need to change from a dimmer to a normal switch. It has been faulty for a while so I am not sure it is currently wired up right (therefore I cannot just copy the config of the wires. I have a set of feed wires and 2 sets of switch wire. Is there a way that I can tell them apart. Two of the grounding cables have been sleeved together on one side of the box and the other set of wires is on the otherside - should I assume that the two sleeved together are the two sets of switch wires?
Great video, very well explained. Thank you. Question though if you have multiple switches to feed (multiple rooms) from this single circuit, presumably you would have 3 cables coming in/out of the switch I.e. feed in from the consumer unit, supply out to the light fitting and a feed out to the next switch?
Yes, take another feed from this switch to the next switch and so on
So well explained if i understand it anyone can LOL. Just a quick question .can a live from the consumer unit go directly to an accessible junction box in the loft then from the junction go directly to the switches in 2 separate rooms.
Brilliant Video
I think you should do the 2 way sockets video with same settings as an add on
I have seen the one you posted but this Camera Angle is more clearer and accurate
Thanks for the feedback - trying to get better each video 🦾
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You are beacon of light, a teacher who is pouring his knowledge for free.
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If you were to use this method for a 2-gang switch, would you bridge the line-in to the second switch.
I have one ceiling rose light and LEDs, I brought the line-in down to the switch and wondered how I would add the live line in to the second (LEDs) switch in the gang. Thanks
Remembering things is easier when taught the logic behind them.
3-plate: line goes to light (1), switch(es) (2), back to light (3)
2-plate: line goes to switch (1) and then to the light (2)
Thanku