Police Texts May Reveal Why McMichaels Went After Ahmaud Arbery | Court TV
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- Police texts reveal new details in the #AhmaudArbery case. Does this show why Greg and Travis McMichael were going after Ahmaud?
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This shouldn't have happened to anybody no matter what the color of your skin!
true
100% TRUE!!
But it did, because of skin color... Literally skin color.
skin color? so you think these guys wanted to shoot him cause he was black, but drove past him on 911 and didn't shoot
in fact he only shot when he attacked and stopped shooting when he stopped attacking? and just they happened to know he was on that property twice as was right
you might not know what ahmaud was doing, but he did.
first, GA allows anyone to make an arrest like police IF IT'S A FELONY? doesn't apply here
but the prowling law has it's own part, it says anyone can ask what you are doing, and if you run, it's an admission of guilt, by law, not by actual guilt, you could own the property and still violate this law. being on a jobsite without a vehicle or tools is prowling by the laws definition.
ahmaud knew he was on the property, ahmaud knew he didn't own it, ahmaud knew they weren't gonna shoot since they already had the chance, ahmaud heard them on the phone with police, he attacked cause he knew eventually police would show up. not because these guys had chose not to shoot him, but he gave them a reason after attacking
committing the crime of prowling and fleeing, does not give you the right to assault and take away guns. at most ahmaud could call 911, not attack
people don't have to run and hide form criminals fleeing crime scenes.
but morally, murder for trespass, they should have kept their distance, and someone died for it
@@ihatecrackhead I pray you leave this world early
74 days to arrest. THE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT FAILED US
NO not the police department. The entire county law apparatus.
@@trinityflintstone7902 that's exactly what I meant! America! We the people
EVERYBODY ON THE TEXTS SHOULD BE FIRED AND LOSE THEIR PENSION NOW.
they aren't here for u
@@VrJunkie 🙄
Ashley is leaving out the part about McMichael not being certified to make any arrests his last 8 yrs on his job, which he only kept because an attorney got him a special waiver
Wow. This is another example of why citizens don’t trust the police. They take care of their own no matter what.
They're good at whitewashing the past misdemeanours.
Investigators in the District Attorney's offices in Georgia do NOT have arrest powers. McMichael failed to attend basic police training on 2005, and failed to attend yearly required inservice training at LEAST 4 years between 2005 and 2019, this included firearms training and REQUIRED requalification testing. In February 2019 he was given the option to retire or be terminated. Maybe if he had attended the required yearly training, he would have known that his actions regarding his pursuit of Mr Arbery were illegal from the beginning. Maybe Ahmaud would have been left alone to finish his run instead of pursued, blocked his path, rerouting him by force, hitting him with their trucks and eventually murdering him..he would be alive today.
Just like movie stars for they weren't stars anymore
exactly
*It was an old fashioned Georgia lynching.*
I believe all 3 of them are "full KKK"!!
@@ellapresley8634 *Exactly.*
And still People Vote for the Demon Rat KKK Party. Lol AMAZING
No it wasn't. They had no intention of shooting the guy. They just wanted to detain him, and they forgot that he has rights.
@@deannawiederhold333 , Democrats
They treated the death of a human being as if that was a pardoned speeding ticket that your cop buddy let you get away with.
No. They did an investigation and came to the correct decision--BASED ON THE VIDEO EVIDENCE THAT IS THERE FOR ALL TO SEE!
@@jamesmcginn6291 yeah the cops... im talking about the father and son!
xtscarface M Arbery tried to rush the McMichaels. Everybody can see that. It's right there in the video. You too can see it. All you have to do is be reasonable.
@@jamesmcginn6291 are you excusing them??? You do know they hunted him before the video starts? They found his prints on the truck where they cornered him with the truck somewhere before the video shows.... thats why he launched almost immediately because he was already aware they wanted to shoot him. Does sure sound like you trying to excuse their actions. Hmmm
@@xtscarfacem8255
are you excusing them???
If you aren't guitl\\lty you don't need an excuse.
You do know they hunted him before the video starts?
They were trying to detain him.
They found his prints on the truck where they cornered him with the truck somewhere before the video shows....
Right. They were trying to detain him.
thats why he launched almost immediately because he was already aware they wanted to shoot him.
Only a moron would assume they were trying to hunt or murder him.
Does sure sound like you trying to excuse their actions. Hmmm
Sounds like you want to convict an innocent man.
The police didn’t even attempt to save his life all of them are guilty
Ahmaud was alive when the police got there. Did they even call an ambulance, did they rinder him help?
@@ywoodsmall He was still gasping for breath and the officer took pictures instead of applying any medical attention. It was sickening
The cop said he was not going over to Ahmaud, while Travis was behind him. Handcuffs....duh!
@Richard You have any proof? You are misinformed. Even if he had mental illness it was no reason for any of this to happen. Question: Are you a part of the racist thinking? Do tell..We'll wait...
@Richard And so the dodging of the answer begins, huh Richard? As the prosecutor said so eloquently "you know who you are, and now so do we" (paraphrase of course) ..As you were. Have a great week ahead 😀
There’s absolutely nothing that could be shown in any other video recorded by 1 person or 100 people that will justify killing an UNARMED man. Not to mention that he wasn’t committing a felony. Period.
Try telling these so called professionals. Playing dumb dumbs is not going to change the fact that it is not okay to murder him. An arrest will suffice.
-- There wasn’t even grounds for them to even talk to him let alone “arrest him”..”trespassing” doesn’t require an arrest and he wasn’t even “trespassed” from the property so he literally committed no crime 🤷♂️
@@eriv4735
Literally, NO CRIME. It's disgusting.
Great point I forgot he was unarmed
Shame the jury didn't get to hear. Gingernut. Brag saying '. The fk n is dead '
Did the Mac's pay Ashley for PR? She is advocating like their attorney.
Thats what i was thinking!
I was thinking the same as well
Right? She played devil's advocate when the video surfaced of the cops harassing and attempting to assault Mr. Arbery in the park, too. I find that a little disturbing.
I kinda see her point BUT.....the officer promoting ex cops services is highly unusual. Perhaps the cop could suggest (as many do) for the resident to get to know his neighbors and ask them to look out for the place when he’s gone.
king Yah I know right that bitch. Who in they right mind gonna chase a jogger in a car to kill him????
They all took part in a cover up for them and need to be charged with corumption of investigation of a murder
Amazing, all of them! Just freakin amazing!
dont be such a dope. the psycho was trying to possess tm's gun.
the reporter in the top right corner act like she would have participated in the "Cover-Up" if given the chance. All she trying to do is save those rabid dogs necks.
@seamo9000deBuilder SUPERBEING no blue
Everytime she comes on here she defended them he blatantly turn right to avoid the gun went around the vehicle and the man chased him with the gun
You must be uneducated to not know she is on the show to give an opposing opinion. That's how these shows work. Everybody gets paid to give an opinions. She could care less about those rabid dogs necks. She just wants to get paid. You're clueless.
i wanted her name to see her response and reaction to a reverse case
Speak English asshole.
You know what's fascinating about our town Brunswick, Georgia?
Nearly all of us have wondered around construction sites because we're a small town that's been growing really fast in the last 20 years. Those of us who were born and have been around during this time have watched the safe place we called home change so much. All of us as teenagers/young adults would explore construction sites for houses because it was something interesting and new. For those of us that are around Maud's age knows that him wondering around in that site isn't surprising at all
If you read some of the other comments on some other videos you will see that many people have done the same all over the country because they are curious, nothing more, nothing less.
@@TheVuduYuDu I know. I'm from Brunswick though, and I'm roughly in the same age group as Maud (I'm three years younger than him). I felt like giving an insiders explanation as to why he was checking the place out. Lol
Actually one of my friends back in highschool lived in a neighborhood that was still being built and he would go out to the construction sites and use some of the beams to do pull-ups and such. He was a football player so he was always working out lol
@@callanightshade8079 LOL I did the same thing too as a kid. I appreciate your perspective and your voice. To often it's the local ones and their perspective which get lost in situations like these. Please keep on speaking up.
@@TheVuduYuDu I will. Honestly I only met Maud once in my life. But he was a nice guy that one time.
I'm someone who has no personal gain from any of this. I'm just someone who knows what it was like in our town over the last two decades and I feel like people need to hear from a citizen of Glynn County. Cause all of us in this area live outside of the city limit, and Satilla Shores is outside the city limit but our mailing addresses always say Brunswick, Ga.
I know it's weird but I feel like people should know that lol
@@callanightshade8079 thank you Carla for the insight!
I think the FBI needs to conduct an audit; it is obvious that the "Good Ol' Boy" system is still alive and well in America.
sherman mcclesky The Hate Crime all three defendants have been charged with inciting is a Federal crime, leaving possibility for further Federal charges…
Yes the good oh boy Demon Rat Party is still alive and well since they are the Party of KKK
Needs to end take everything from them leave their family on the street homeless penniless it will stop
@@deannawiederhold333 please crack open a history book or, I dunno, ask your local klan members who they vote for.
Strange though that Greg Carr and the GBI did the right thing!
When the cop showed up to the scene, he didn't bust his ass to render Arbury any aid.
That is where the injustice of Aubrey murder is underlined and finalized. These cops were aiding and abating the murder of Aubrey. They called on a monster to do their jobs, then when the monster felt entitled to slaughter Aubrey they got to the scene and not only watched him die a horrific death, but walked around while he was in excurciating pain and took pictures of him dying. They did not render any aid to him. He was probably going to die from 3 gunshots, but compassion and humanity and their oath to protect & serve was tossed to the street where Aubrey laid. The cops should be accountable for even asking the monsters to look out for the construction site, for not arresting the monsters and for not giving aid to Aubrey.
Agree and I was horrified to see this just recently. This should have gotten more discussion, and first responders should be cited for this added cruelty.
@iMagUdspEllr Did they look for a pulse? Did they attempt cpr? No, when it's murder you do nothing....I'm so glad they were convicted. Those demons need to die in prison.
*Some* people prove that they are complete nincompoops, when they are, actually, trying to *appear* to be intelligent
@@eh3477
That's it!!! "CRUELTY" is the word and the ONLY word to describe the lack of offering aid to Ahmaud!!! BUT...BUT... IF AHMAUD WAS A "WHITE GUY" he'd have got all the aid in the world!!! IM "WHITE"...just sayin!!! ✝️✝️✝️
They saw something the rest of us didn’t see, they didn’t think they could prosecute this case in this county. Sounds like they knew a jury in that area wouldn’t find two white men guilty for killing a black man regardless of the circumstances. It’s the head quarters for the good ol boys club.
How could they have "KNOWN" what a jury would have done?
yeah, he was just jogging! 12miles from his house... I also seen a video where he was jogging out of a walmart, using a tv for weights, and they charged him for shoplifting! old boys club at it again! this madness must end!
Unfortunately, I agree with you
I expect these comments from narcissists
@@-maccabee it was actually 2.5 miles away but go ahead an keep spewing false information
Ashley"s acting like police work is a interchangeable Groupon option.
😩🤣💯
She was so pressed to justify their actions 🤦🏽♂️ Not hard to see who she's more 'sympathetic' towards!
"It's really dangerous for ppl to anoint themselves csi experts"
Not to jump in the back of a truck and ride around with a shotgun. That's not the dangerous part. What another despicable piece of human trash. 🤢
Sounds more like a family business, than a Justice System.
NEPOTISM
@The Light Bringer :You are right and the Black Militia came up with that proven conclusion. They all are exmilitary!
@Bret Pritchard :They got more legal firepower than you will ever have! (White Boy)
@Bret Pritchard : Come and march in the ATL!
It's the "good ole boys club". They treated this county as if it was their playpen.
The "former cop" was booted from his position, his POST certifications suspended, his badge and gun taken away, so that he could in no way be confused for a law enforcement officer in any capacity, all before given a very quiet retirement. So yes, it is quite damning for more than one (1) reason, for the police to pass the buck to that dip-shit. Any defense of the criminal justice system in this jurisdiction, that tried to bury this case repeatedly, speaks volumes about the person's character.
@hot100easypack It's information that's been widely reported. And, it's entirely relevant to the discussion. Not quite Columbo, but sure.
Oh dammm......facts.....
And his unwillingness to take the firearms and use of force training is clearly an issue. He was a Liability as an officer but even more so as an associate
wanting to play cops and robber
Ego is EVIL!
Keyser Soze - very well said.
the Fed needs to step in and prosecute all those who tried to cover up this brutal murder.
Cover up 😮
Fed need to step in and correct this unlawful conviction.
@@crand20033so murdering someone who was not bothering you or on your property is not a crime. You do Travis said Ahmaud never threatened him or said anything to him. Ask Gregory doesn't he know what Ahmaud do. He told the Police Officer on the scene he didn't know what Ahmaud had done on February 23rd. So can you now ask him why he stop working on his boat cushions ?
@@geraldineallen8060 The fact is Arbery attacked Travis after he was just trying to get him stopped for the police who were on their way to question him and give him a trespass warning. A normal person like you or me wouldn't attack a man holding a gun. But Arbery wasn't normal. Abery was a convicted felon out on probation and getting into any more trouble would mean going back to jail for his original sentence of 5 years.
@@crand20033the fact is Travis murdered a person who was not bothering him or on his PROPERTY. You may not understand that but I bet Travis knows why he is in Prison. Also he knows that he should have listened to the homeowner Larry English when he told them and Officer Rash on February 11th Ahmaud NEVER STOLE ANYTHING FROM HIS PROPERTY. If he would have believe him about his stuff then there would never need to leave his son on the couch. One day he will understand all the Laws of Gerogia and that the Constitution of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BELONGS TO EVERYONE. I hope he lives a long time believing he did the right thing. He lost his freedom over someone else stuff that never happened. Larry English is at home with his family.
I’m confused Ashley wait for all the 😳FACTS
but you are commenting without ALL
the FACTS as more to this (trying to cover up) story seeps out..
gerard henry uhhhhh 🤔 is the comment under my comment towards another video...
Sounds like she is with them....i have coos friends they do favor for me 😒
gerard henry please elaborate it seems white boys and black men and women see things differently please help me see what you see
Tyrone Koumoundouros 👀 Switch your WHOLE self to Ahmuad Arbrey..
matter of this FACT... SWITCH ANY of your love ones
Still blinded? or sun glasses still on?..
Murder vs Self Defense
gerard henry lol if they would have not chased him down this situation does not happen
Saying everyone had good intentions doesn't negate the Crime of Murder, The road to HELL is paved
with good intentions. SMFH
dont be such a dope. the psycho was trying to possess tm's gun.
Since when is murdering someone no grounds for an arrest?
Oh Donna.
When someone assaults you and tries to take your gun
Abortion? Right?
When the person is black who care the justice department don't. Just think if the shoe was on the other foot.
@@wesleybrown23 Shouldn't have chased him down...youre no fucking vigilante.
If there’s other footage and Arbery did something it would be out here! The police always tell people in my neighborhood if you see something suspicious call the police. In my neighborhood we are not the police I’m not strapping up to protect a construction site. I would intervene if someone was beaten, if a child was getting kidnapped, if a rape was occurring, or if actively entering my property. Citizens are not sanctioned to be patrol guards. We cannot as citizens take the LAW into our hands, period! Whenever a person does something wrong, evidence will be hidden. Otherwise, tapes are released immediately, an arrest is not forced, and dead people are not put on trial. I wonder how the narrative would play out if a white man was pursued and shot in a black community.
Listen, there’s no video footage that can possibly play that will justify murder. None.
Personally, had 3 men chased me down and attempt to kidnap me, I’d fight like hell for my life
@@deniselee1527 😂😂 good one bro, good one lol!!
Could you imagine
If three black guys approach a white guy because he was running in their neighborhood...
Then they cornered him and killed him...because they thought he was a thief....
@None of your Business yours is a white trailer park, lol
She acts like she has no empathy for the man that lost his life. She is waiting for more evidence
More evidence is fine. But, with what there is so far it's obviously all kinds of messed up.
Collusion and conspiracy after the fact. They should be arrested and charged for their complicity to cover up a crime.
If it was a black man kill a white man the entire situation would have been handled differently.
dont be such a dope. the psycho was trying to possess tm's gun.
You say that because you are white. You have no idea what is like to be a black person in America. We as have been stereotyped for years and we have had four different names over the past 120 years. Now we are called African American. But we have never just been called Americans.
@@samuelknight886 i say that bc i care about truth and justice. ppp, have not blacks been the ones determining what they should be called? i figure blacks like african american bc it makes them feel superior when peeps use so many syllables to identify them.
As I said before, you don’t know how it is to be a black man in America. Until you put yourself in my shoes, then you will see.
The lady in a white top 😳 no no no! Police work became casual here... it’s not OK! Lady it’s not ok!
The police gave him a go ahead to think that he rules the community and he used that to kill. They shouldn’t have done that,...
OMG
Even the police chief said so. Not police policy outside the norm.
She’s bias.
David Sherman how are you going to detain somebody when you had no power to do so? Typical white people thinks they own everything
David Sherman he didn’t steal anything. The home under construction owner released video of him looking and leaving. So what if he trespassed? There were also a couple, bunch of kids, and other white people trespassed on the same property. They chose ahmaud to go hunt after
I'm a licensed contractor in Michigan and when we have a property that we're working on in a problem area we secure the property-BOARD IT UP- secure your property and put up signage that reads no trespassing video surveillance and we rarely have any issues after that..
WTF??
This is what I cannot understand.
If as they say people have been trespassing on the property and stealing from it for a long time, why weren't the precautions you mentioned done? Something is very fishy here.
Still, many people walked in and out of this place (on video too).It was only a black guy that set them off.
@@korbendallas7181 And it didn't even set the property owner off. It set the neighbors off, which is even crazier.
THIS IS AN EXCLUSIVE AREA. NEAR THE BEACH AND NOT NEAR THE INNER CITY. BESIDES THEY SHOOT FIRST AND ASK questions later.
@@msg4141 the video show a compound saw on a work bench .. if theft was a problem no worker would leave tools laying around like that and if he was a thef the saw would definitely have been stolen..
Use your heads..
Dudes spot on the police should also be held responsible and charged for empowering the McMichaels.
Personally I feel the police are liable for even suggesting the home owner involve anyone else. The police are the ones who are tasked with the job of protecting and serving.
💯
Ditto
The cops are a part of the corruption
Legend has it that McMichael was retired cause he couldn’t meet the requirements to be a cop.
Arter 30 years on the force.
Only in America does someone gets murdered and people don't see it as a murder but focus on the victims past smh
Not everyone has brought a gun to school. Led a underage gang to steal a TV then tried to get into a physical confrontation with the law. Not everyone violated thier probation . Not everyone then got into another confrontation with law and get tasered by acting aggressive in word and deed . Not everyone charges a group of armed men telling you they are making a citizens arrest. Then try to disarm one and die in the struggle for a gun In a open carry state...But if they had .....it would paint a picture of a angry male/part time criminal and a Darwin award that was inevitable
@@edstringer1138 Imagine if we held white people to the same standard. Y'all wouldn't be here 😂😂😂
@@edstringer1138 do you feel the same about Mr. Floyd?
They want to defend these law enforcement workers at all cost .....
@@refillz5281 umm the police do hold all other RACES to the same standard. The 13 % is the only one that consistently defends thier own bad actors and uses it as a excuse to riot and loot
An inside look at systemic racism.
A black man can't even look at a house under consideration lord help us...
Thank You so Much
If we looking at one we better have enough money to buy it...might not get harassed or killed then..
Smdh 🤨 wow
@@willharper7888What if that individual is going to school to be an architect?
When the kids went in to that house, they clearly don’t have the means to buy the house.
Your argument is weak and nonsensical. You are also judging a person by appearance whether they could afford the home or not. That is profiling and stereotyping which is the epitome of racism.
@@publicuser2534 ok..✌
Even the coroner should be charged for lying!
What did the coroner lie about? Not being a smart aleck; I'm not 100% caught up on everything in this case. I remember the illegal activity of cops & DAs from last year, but I don't remember anything about the coroner.
@@southbug27 they said there was nothing done wrong in Ahmad's death. That there was no need for arrest. That it was a ok death to do and then basically say "self defense". When it was clearly murder
@@JeanneMarie_Bby The first prosecutor said the coroner's finding confirmed his judgment that there wasn't enough evidence to move forward with a prosecution. I thought it was a weird thing to say. How could the coroner's findings support or not support the prosecution of this case? She could determine that the Arbery died because he was shot three times with a shot gun. Maybe the coroner's report has more in it than I would have expected.
Yep he changed his entire report after the DOJ got involved and gave their report!
@@davefoc Could the ‘possibility’ of those findings from the 1st autopsy have been a DIRECT result of being closely ‘influenced’ by the 1st District Attorney assigned to the case and also had strong ties to Greg McMichaels???
When you get an alert you don’t go out to serve some type of vigilante justice for someone else’s property 🤨🧐 girl sit down your making this up as you go.
gerard henry yeah it’s called neighborhood watch. Neighborhood watch means you see something and call the police and lets them handle it.
@gerard henry but they ran in the direction of arbery with guns! So he has the right to defend himself when others went into the house to see the inside but Travis didn't do anything.
@gerard henry I doubt that. A black man, his son, and his neighbor wouldnt of stalked a white man running around there peaceful neighborhood. Probably would of waved and kept it moving. If the situations were reversed the police would of killed those black men in cold blood. They would of laid dead right next to the MCMicheal's.
@gerard henry they killed the man and the D A tried to let them walk. Depending where the trial is they still may get off. They had no right to do what they did
@gerard henry he didnt encounter nobody, they ran up on him, dont try to make it sound like they all met by chance because they didnt they were following him.
Even if they caught him red handed carrying stuff out of that house. None of them were in danger in anyway. They had no right to "police" their neighborhood themselves and certainly have no right to condemn a man to death without due process.
Well said
I don't have a problem wth people wanting to secure their towns but you have a racist area, you have extreme deadly force, and they played judge and jury. No, you bring them to the people of the town to judge whether they need to be handed over to law enforcement. Police can't be trusted let alone a bigoted police or ex police. They can say what they want, this was hunting a black person.. disgusted.
The homeowner said that he saw him walk towards the water connection when he went off angle but he heard water running and then when he got back in the frame he wiped his mouth with his bandana so he thinks that he might've been trying to get water to drink... you know, for his jog smh...I guess we'll see what happens but I find it interesting they don't report that!
yoohoo my tutu I did hear about having water hooked up in the house on 2 TV newscasts, suggesting a drink might well be why he stopped there the times he was seen.on tape.
@Danny Watson lol idk what vid you're watching
Reflecting on the verdict and the judge's comments; it's disturbing to see how ready Ashley was to consider the best in the Mcmichaels and the worst in Mr. Arbery.
Ashley comes off as very racist.
God bless the Arbery family.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Especially since the owner of the place under construction didn’t seem overly concerned since he was made aware of previous trespassing on property with nothing apparently taken or no apparent damage. Owner could have ramped up security if he was worried. This father and son murdering this young man is an absolute disgrace. Hopefully justice is served with a life sentence for both
@mak 10 The facebook page has been released by the cops to the media, I've seen them, and Mr English never supplied any videos to it. He was aware the neighborhood had some concerns about 'suspicious' people in the neighborhood but he had next to zero contact with anybody there as stated by Mr English to the investigating officers while they were viewing his surveillance videos (this is mentioned in several news articles)
The Officer, the same one that lied to Ahmaud's mother about how he got shot, didn't contact Mr English, *he* *contacted* *Gregory* *McMichael* and asked him to keep an eye out at a property for any suspicious activity since the owner made *1* report about trespassing (Mr English stated he only made *1* mention to the police to the police who were investigating the shooting).
Mr English was not concerned since construction activity had been suspended for a few months and he had no possessions there.
You haven't researched this very well; you're creating your own narrative.
@mak 10 I usually pay attention to that.
@@VP_A-Team
so you think these guys wanted to shoot him cause he was black, but drove past him on 911 and didn't shoot
in fact he only shot when he attacked and stopped shooting when he stopped attacking? and they happened to know he was on that property twice as were right
you might not know what ahmaud was doing, but he did.
first, GA allows anyone to make an arrest like police IF IT'S A FELONY? doesn't apply here
but the prowling law has it's own part, it says anyone can ask what you are doing, and if you run, it's an admission of guilt, by law, not by actual guilt, you could own the property and still violate this law. being on a jobsite without a vehicle or tools is prowling by the laws definition.
second, ahmaud knew he was on the property, ahmaud knew he didn't own it, ahmaud knew they weren't gonna shoot since they already had the chance, ahmaud heard them on the phone with police, he attacked cause he knew eventually police would show up. not because these guys had chose not to shoot him, but he gave them a reason after attacking
finally, committing the crime of prowling and fleeing, does not give you the right to assault and take away guns. at most ahmaud could call 911, not attack
people don't have to run and hide form criminals fleeing crime scenes, not in north america, maybe in south america
but morally, murder for trespass, they should have kept their distance, and someone died for it!!!
@@ihatecrackhead I believe you need to brush up a tad bit more on your prowling laws. Prowling laws in the state of georgia most be committed in the front officers, not in the front of citizens or a "GUT" feeling of a citizen. He may have trespassed, but not was not prowling. I can give you the Georgia State link if you'd like?
@@majesticdetail3422
you don't get a gut feeling and chase someone with a gun and they just happen to be the guy who did prowl on the property
regardless, ahmaud knew he was on the property when they asked him what he was doing, and he ran
if they both knew, and he ran, that's an admission of guilt according to GA law.
so ahmaud can call 911 is someone chases him for breaking the law, fleeing a crime scene doesn't mean you can takes guns from anyone you see
Exactly! It's innocent up until grabbing a 357 Magnum, shot gun, and chasing the young man along his jog. I don't care how this woman is trying to find a way to excuse the murderers, it still shows they followed him, stopped him, harassed & fought him while the other guy recorded them shooting him. ✋🏾STOP IT Lady! They're GUILTY AF!!!! 😡
dont be such a dope. the psycho was trying to possess tm's gun.
@@sticksbass so if someone approached you threateningly with a gun you'd just stand there? Arberry couldn't turn around and run because there was a car behind him with the occupant possibly in possession of a firearm. So naturally he chose to fight his way out. If anyone is being a "dope" here its you. Travis would have never been in that situation if HE didn't bring HIS gun and attempt an extrajudicial arrest. If he'd stayed his ass at home and let the police do their job, this wouldn't have happened.
@@humanitysreject5233 he knew they werent trying to shoot him or they already wouldve. but since i had to explain this to a bunch of you maybe aa was that stupid too but i doubt it considering he unnecessarily jogged up to their truck and attacked. they couldve shot as he approached... are you just playing dumb or are you really this dumb?
@@humanitysreject5233 why cant you get it through your head they werent trying to shoot him and he knew that or they already wouldve.
@@sticksbass are you dumb? Then why bring the guns if they had no intent of ever using them.
The first thing we need to say is that this was a closed case. And if that video had not surfaced these men would of never been charged with anything. This young mans mom and family would of been left to believe Ahmaud was killed by a home owner after breaking into their house. When really he had been seen looking in a house that was under construction. "Which so many of us do I might add"The men who saw him with a friend chased Ahmaud down and killed him. The fact that the people who are in charge of handling, this looked at that video and know one went to jail. Is a cover up in it's self. And then to throw salt in the families eyes once the video is leaked. They then turned the killers into the victim. And made the real victim here the criminal. The justice system is bull. For over 400 years it has been used to target black american's. We complained no would listen. Now we have it on video and they tell you your eyes aren't see what you saw. Amazing
LMAO.
I guess you haven't seen the new videos of the jogger and his previous interactions with the police.
The man was highly volatile and threatening and it's no surprise he attacked a man holding a shotgun.
It was only a matter of time before he met his maker or ended up doing a long stretch in prison.
@@workhorse7134 Amazing.
@@workhorse7134 So ... the McMichaels were taking retribution on Arbery for alleged previous misconduct?
@Rafael Felan Bullshit ... the man with muslim name is a criminal, looks like a criminal, and ended his life in such a fate ... he is very volatile, provocatively wearing underpants with pants slid down, cursed at the police, was sentenced 5 years probation in 2013. for bringing a gun to school ... he dared everybody acting like he did, and he eventually found same kind of people who accepted his challenge.
Keeana Rainey you said a mouthful of truth there is no justice for black people in this country and it never has been those words should be ingrained into to the minds of all black people this is nothing but a lynching of another black man in that racist state black folks will never learn to not interact with white folks i work with them as a lot of black people do but that is where my interaction ends.
Ashley is trying to find all kinds of excuses for the Mcmichaels. I feel like they got the wrong man and it was an unnecessary murder.
They didn't get the wrong man. Arbery had an extensive juvenile and adult criminal record, and was a thief.
Vigilantes don't get to murder people for trespassing, even if they did get the right person. Do your neighbours get to murder your kids if they nip over the fence to grab some apples?
B pott....
The crime of Murder itself is UNNECESSARY
And murder is
ALWAYS a crime
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We all know exactly why he was chased!!!
Greg was a police officer that should've been fired way before any of this happen, he failed to go through police training on several occasions. Which he was not certified to be a police officer or to even have a badge or gun. All of his cases need to be investigated
He wasnt even a credentialed so called officer mam too lazy to go to training that was required
still qualified him to be their hitman !
Even if he was the must credentialed person that attended all training that would have made no difference here. He killed an unarmed man in cold blood.
Yes, it does go terribly for the McMicheals. There was no reason for them to chase someone down with their guns and truck because he walked onto a working construction site. I hope both McMichaels get life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty.
They thought it was still 1850, gotta catch that escaped property.
Even 1950.
@@niapaulino3310I was gonna say that. Legit true though. Lynchings were huge from the end of slavery into the middle of the 20th century.
WHY COVER THIS UP WHEN IT'S ON VIDEO. I MEAN THEY'RE MAKING IT OUT TO BE AN RACIST ISSUE INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING .
mik rof
Quaint. So quaint. If you think a black man is going to stop for two inbred hicks armed in a pickup... nah, he did the right thing. I love how you people think that not having a gun = not having the right to defend yourself... that’s just low IQ talking.
@mik rof right so we can do that to you and say it was self defence!
@@romancultist6089 We brits call them Gammon. Look it up in urban dictionary it's PERFECT for those two.
@J Leicht theft of WHAT he had nothing in his hands.
The homeowner said people did sneak in and use his water hose. He stole a drink of WATER🙄
@J Leicht we are both white we don't face the shit he did FROM white people.
Bad enough ILLEGAL searches of his car by cops WHY should he comply with white fat guys poking guns PLUS HE OBVIOUSLY HAD NOT stolen anything The daughter took pictures of him lying there in his own blood NOTHING WAS STOLEN.
It’s crazy how many conspirators had written that the distance from Ahmaud’s home to the construction site was 10 miles when it was actually 2.5 miles....a huge and significant difference from what was being led by the conspirators. I have in many cases jogged more than 2 to 4 miles when I was younger and healthier. I have to admit that when I read the “10 miles”crap, I was more inclined to not believing that Ahmaud had been just jogging for such a distance. But now with this new correctly measured distance that is broadcasted, I can see that many were indirectly trying to discredit Ahmaud by painting him to being more less a victim. The fact the autopsy reveals that his system was clearly absent of any substance, including alcohol, clearly bolsters a defense for the victim (Ahmaud Arbery). People, I lived at Westside of Chicago during my younger years, and I use to jog into the Oak Park and River Forest suburban neighborhood where I would jog way pass 3 miles on a regular basis. It’s really not fair for people to try to smear the image of a young man whose interest might have simply been just the admiration of the beauty of a house under construction. This is a thing that is far more common than we are led to believe. I truly feel sorry for his family, especially his mom who’s having to deal with the unwanted publicity.
I figured that ten miles was bullshit.
I knew it too, I live on the west side too born and raised and run, rollerblade and skateboard thru oak park
@@DJRenee marathon runners do more 😉
The issue I see here is that you call it jogging while the rest of us call it casing the joint.
@@workhorse7134 really well that sounds "about white" WE don't even know for a fact it was him.
“Innocent “? Really!,,,more and more like premeditated posse
Laura D. Bueford I think it was planned for weeks, but even if it was random, it's still murder.
Brilliant minds think alike. The real truth will come out eventually.
@@margorolle9453 Yup, new info comes out day by day that shows this murder for what it really was. By trial, 'Roddie Brian' will be telling the state everything to save himself and destroy Travis McMichael. I'm sure that's how this will play out.
If the two da was going to recuse themselves, personal opinions of the case should have been kept just that personal
I don't care how many videos or text's comes out this man was jogging minding his own business
And was ambushed from a mad man you see on video he fighting for his life he had no chance at survival perioddddd
hot100easypack you sound like the racist asshole!
At least he tried to fight for his life. He wasn’t submissive. He wasn’t pleading for leniency. He fought. He was winning with his bare hands, UNTIL a coward (sore loser) shot him
@@mtio2807 Yep, they usually are cowards that can't fight like REAL men. Those losers were punks.
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SKIP MCBURNEY ....... was he running/jogging already? Was he trying to escape some jerks with slave catcher mentality? Who knows? We surely don’t. The defendants won’t talk. The victim CAN’T talk. Facts are, you cannot use deadly force to protect property. Nothing will bring back this young man. Nothing. Smearing his character is low
They made it sound like a home invasion,,, the house wasn't even finished being built 🤨
Yes it was the walls were up her broke in the front door ..the inide wasnt done
@Mark Calous that is a lie just youtube it ..it had walls and doors the inside did not have the sheetrock but that doesnt mean its open to the public. Yall are so misinformed its mind boggling. The house is on video . Research before you open your pie hole. Stop letting cnn think for you
It wasnt a museum it was someones home . You cant just go in peoples homes..jesus
Wesley Brown FALSE..completely and utterly FALSE 🤦♂️
@@wesleybrown23 walls were up but no windows or garage door. Nobody broke in. The owner didn’t have a problem, said many people came in, no thefts.
How the hell can they find a man dead in the street and not even investigate? That's appalling! And the police have no business appointing a civilian to perform police duties, period! That's ridiculous! The lady in white is really reaching for an excuse for this abhorrent behavior!
They're all members of the same "clan".
The most striking image is seeing elder McMichael standing in the bed of the pickup with his pistol out. In addition, the son behind the driver’s door pointing his weapon at Arbery as he approaches from a long ways off. That dude was in the Coast Guard. If the Coast Guard is truly military, he would have been trained to never point a weapon unless ready to shoot. The fact he was doing so probably increased Arbery’s fight or flight level. He had already tried running, and he was gassed. Only one option left at that point being outnumbered, fight for his life.
Just like Trayvon Martin, he was hunted and killed.
@@J_Allen3556 Did you ever go to a different neighborhood?
@@why-even-try-brotendo to steal? No. if I did and someone confronted me with a gun to stop, and I started punching them and grab for the gun, they have every right to shoot.
Had the race has been reversed, you wouldn't see any white people protesting that a thief was shot because we don't protect criminals.
@@J_Allen3556
Nothing was stolen bonehead sociopath.
@@toxophilite6804 he was casing the construction site and ran when he was caught. And he actually dropped a hammer.
If the DA's are allowed to go unconvicted or allowed to resign, will be the continuation of the injustices in America! All of the DA's are allowed to put their story together!
Pretty much neglection is meant involvement
I cant believe you are dismissing the fact fact that the owner lied when he said he had no knowledge of the McMichael's, this is explosive!!!!!
Take her ass off the show
@@coreyrobinson9438 she is fair
Jack Ass Perhaps he misspoke in that interview but I believe that what he was trying to say is that he hadn’t known the McMichael’s beyond the McMichael’s initial solicitation...in what I would call an attempt to gain confidence in policing the area that included the construction site. What’s actually troubling is that the McMichael’s could have cared less if the home owner had given them the permission to do so because at the end, they had the boldness in doing as they were pleased. But then again, it appears that we’re all speculating with fragments of evidence in the entire case. I still feel that because of the high level of said coverups within the district, it is likely that the videos are being released in drip drop mode to gauge from the public discourse and mood.
Larry English stated on CNN, that he never had knowledge of Arbery B&E, never heard of him. Why aren't they widely showing the white couple entering the construction site? Why isn't media giving us Travis's background? Why did Larry English state the Fishing pole story was blown out of proportion and was stolen from a boat? You are right; she needs to be removed from the show she had the position bc of Mama, not her qualifications. Intelligence does not apply to a law degree.
Well, if she was FAIR how can she speak if as she says all the evidence isn't in? That means she is opinion talking not law talking and that's BS!
The homeowner didnt have a problem though! Stop making excuses!
@moose boy How?
@GuildBankLooter All he did was walk around and He didnt even touch anything. What about all the other videos showing other people enterung the home under construction. Are they Thugs too? Shouldn't they have been hunted down and murdered too?
@GuildBankLooter they didn't have to kill him if they thought he was breaking the law they could have just held him and waited for the police to come he didn't deserve to be shot and killed period
@GuildBankLooter he didn't deserve to die that man fought for his life and those slave patrol neighborhood officers are going to prison even the house owner wasn't concerned about him being on his property they hunted down that young man and killed him they could have let the law deal with him his death was senseless period and l bet you don't feel mass white shooter that are taking in alive should be killed while your saying he deserved to be killed but you and l can agree to disagree
@GuildBankLooter You probably thought Trevon Martin deserved to die too!
Lady in white....You keep telling us not to rush to judgement,aren't you rushing to accept the killers and the polices' narrative after they've had weeks and weeks to get their story straight...White privilege creeping in here me thinks.
Exactly
Mr. English has never said that Mr. Arbery was the person or persons in any of those night-time videos, and he cannot identify the person now. He never used the word "burglary." He never shared any of this information with the McMichaels, whom he did not even know. Nothing was ever stolen from the house -- which, again, was a construction site.
The only crime that the homeowner has seen captured on video is the senseless killing of Mr. Arbery.
On February 23, the English family was two hours away from the Satilla Shores neighborhood and was unaware of the tragedy that was unfolding. Mr. English was working with his bees when he received an alert that the camera had activated. He had honey all over his hands. He continued working for about 20 minutes, then washed up and viewed the video. When he saw a person captured on video inside the house, he telephones another property owner in Satilla Shores and asked whether he could see someone in the house and whether he should call the police. That property owner informed him that a man (later identified as Mr. Arbery) had been killed.
When Mr. English saw photos of Mr. Arbery, he did not even recognize him as the man in the video captured inside the house.
Again, nothing was ever stolen from the English property. Even if theft or damage had occurred, however, the Englishes would never have wanted a vigilante response. The Englishes did not know the McMichaels. The Englishes never enlisted the McMichaels to do what they did and do not want to be part of any effort to justify the McMichaels' actions.
I am emphasizing these facts to address the impression that some people have that the homeowners took part in the McMichaels' actions. The homeowners were shocked and deeply saddened by these events, which they learned of after-the-fact. The homeowners are parents, and they are heartsick for Mr. Arbery's mother and father. Larry English and his family are praying for the Arberys."
Elizabeth Graddy, attorney for homeowner Larry English, said it appears the man may have been getting water on the property.
Graddy wrote there is a water source at the dock behind the house and a water source near the front of the house.
Graddy writes that although the water sources don’t appear on camera, the man moves to and from their locations. Also in the video, Graddy says what sounds like water can be heard on the tape.
Attorneys for Ahmaud Arbery wrote in a statement Friday:
"We have reviewed a number of videos released by the attorney for the owner of the home under construction. We are able to confirm that Ahmaud Arbery appeared in one video, however we are unable to confirm that he appeared in any other videos."
Other video obtained by First Coast News shows children and adults walking into the house at different times.
These are two statements made by the homeowner through his lawyer. The homeowner never contacted the mcmichaels and asked them to do anything.
Well said and 100% truth!!
The good ol boy system is having problems surviving the internet age...
Why didn’t they investigate the white couple ? That were shown entering the property.
If there is any self defense argument here, it is in favor of the jogger who was confronted by an armed man standing in his way. I would have tried to get that gun too because the guy was obviously deranged. And as for Dad riding in the truck bed with his deranged son at the wheel, he is just as much at fault in the death.
Waycross DA needs to be fired for how he's handling things down there. Get him out of here. He serves himself and his friends, not the average citizen of the community.
Wow Ashley!! Your slip is certainly showing!!
The police had no business involving a citizen. Hey your neighbor is a ex cop. He'd be willing to blah blah. Totally wrong.
They always make the victim look guilty
The prosecutors license should be taken and charges should be filled on all 3
For them to make a argument defending the 2 DAs is BS. This was a cover up period. No stupidity, no error, no bad judgment , what they both did was a crime PERIOD !!!!
But not enough to drop the case…. The defense is trying to use it to their advantage. Listen to the information
Jackie Johnson, George Barnhill and Glynn County Police Department, all have to be prosecuted. Disband the police department
Question: They have many movies and real life stories of kids going in to “haunted houses” to look around... So if you stand by them are you essentially saying it’ll be ok for me to gun them down? Because, after all, it’s not their property and they were trespassing... man I swear it’s soo hypocritical...
Good point Joshua Roper ! I used to go into abandoned houses as a kid Didnt take anything
@SKIP MCBURNEY I'm a 33 yr old black man I own 2 houses before I got my 1st house built I use to look around houses just to get a ideal in that was before I had money or credit to get my own ppl look n houses just to look n be like dang there rooms big so on you have to understand and by the way kid was fighting for his life nobody n there right mind would just fight a person with a gun n they have others with them that's armed think about it
@SKIP MCBURNEY i dont think theyre saying that he should have trespassed. Those two guys just didnt have the right to attack him and shoot him dead and then have the police department cover it up.
@@jasminerubin6026 right
SKIP McBURNEY 🤦♂️
Wow, Ashley...go testify for the defense.
Asking for advice from a retired LEO is one thing. Asking favors are another. And if you are giving McMichaels info because the neighbor has offered is inappropriate.
I am from GA, although not from this community, I simply ask one thing PLEASE do not judge all of us by these racists. I was appalled and sickened when I saw the video of this murder. I watched this trial on TV and when the the murderer was on the stand I found myself yelling at the TV. I cried and clapped when the verdicts came in. People like this will always give the South a bad reputation.
You sound like a good person Carol. There are a lot of evil manipulative people in this land. Don’t allow yourself to be manipulated by them. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.
@@desertmonsoon1 You are right about there being evil people in this world. I have fairly good radar when it comes to recognizing evil people. I guess I must be a natural born skeptic. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.
@@carolpearson6179 God bless you Carol. God is about love and understanding. Many wolves dressed in sheep clothing will praise God. While spreading hate, fear and manipulation. These are not God’s people. They are hypocrites of God. God is about love, peace and understanding. These wolves try to spread fear. To gain corruptive support. This is how these people operate.
The south is no different than the north, midwest or west. Evil and genuinely good people are everywhere. The problem with people. Is most people honestly feel they are better than other types that don’t share their same back grounds. Racism is very real. it’s not something that people falsely claim or dream up. Racism exists all over the world. Always have been, always will be. It’s bad up here in the north too. I know exactly what happened in this neighborhood in Georgia. Make no mistake. These so called close knit neighborhoods are are extremely politically corrupt. People in these neighborhoods act however they want. Because they have residential, political and police support through manipulation and corruption. This is why these idiots act this way. It’s a political corruption problem mainly. Supported by racism. If you have followed this story closely in its entirety. You will learn. This community was picking on this kid for months. This wasn’t a first time occurrence. This neighborhood was manipulating against him for several months. Had nothing to do with thefts accurring or not in this neighborhood. The police were picking on him outside this neighborhood also. All motivated by this corrupt neighborhood. It’s all related. Very bad people. This is how evil people operate. Kid never did a damn thing. He feared for his life. People have been oppressing other people, using the police for centuries. We are supposedly an advanced civilization. Oppression using the police hasn’t changed a bit.
Trash the law enforcement. Move to another county and try the perps.
Right
Less than 24 hours, DA Barnhill says that there's no probable cause to bring charges against the Mcmichaels .
We're talking about the Death of a human being and it took less than 24 hours to investigate?!😡😡
These experts got it wrong about the prosecutor being held accountable. Ashley sounds like she's cosigning this cover up.
Without the video and public outrage, all these DA ‘s and cops and the murderers would be Sitting around laughing and bragging about what they did. It blows my mind you can’t hold a DA accountable for their complicity in a murder cover up.
74 day's better than nothing at all, I'm glad his Mom didn't give up, it took time but Ahmaud can finally rest in peace and justice has been served!!!!!
The judges and District attorney's are well known for enabling cops and their own when it comes to protecting them from criminal charges.
Ashley Banfield is telling a boldface lie. Civilians do NOT have a right to detain, question, pursue or arrest alleged suspects. Yes, there are certain citizen"s arrest statutes that exist in the extreme circumstance of a felony being committed, witnessed by the person making the arrest UNTIL THE PRESENCE OF THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. A person in the neighborhood, nor retired detective, nor former military service member or whatever, can serve as an independent private militia endowed with the authority to pursue, interrogate and detain alleged suspects. Only the police can do that PERIODT
Actually she didn’t lie. They are going to have to present a defense and it’s likely they’ll claim they made a valid citizens arrest. She’s explaining how the facts of the case may fit into that defense, as twisted as that is.
@@msandsss She said she saw no problem with a police officer recommending Greggory McMicheal as a first responder contact in case of possible crimes being committed, which is illegal
Normally good coverage of cases, but the disconnect of privilaged white people able to ask neighbor cops for "favors" is NOT something many people have access to. I found it amazing your commentators would admit to this, while attempting to understand the dynamics of the case
She says this very casually with a few laughs. She isn’t seeing a problem at all, I am shocked. The lady’s attitude towards this case is interesting...
She sounds like her support is for the racist killers.
*privileged
@Bobby Edenfield N
@David Michael the phone calls on the day of his murder says alot...."its a black man running down the street". The operator had to ask them what was he doing wrong and no one had an answer except the first caller which wasn't travis or Gregory. Prejudice at the least
I pray for all parties involved in taking Mr. Aubrey's life to be found Guilty and sentenced to LIFE!!! 🔒⚰
well another reason why I don't trust this system.
Several minutes of running for your life. How terrifying!
Move case out of this county .
@@deeward729 defense won't let that happen
@God Fire Inferno I never said it did. It happened in the U.S. When did I ever say it differently?
@God Fire Inferno its been done before. Remember the Rodney King case? It was moved from Van Nuys which is closest to where it happened in Pacoma to Semi Valley where most LAPD live.
@God Fire Inferno it happens to us all
Did it ever occur to the homeowner to put up a NO TRESPASSING sign given that it is normal for people to be curious about the progress of new construction. Also there are cameras equipped with audio so you can verbally get out, you are trespassing.
Ashley sounds crazy too . These people make me literally sick
Doesn’t MATTER if the guy had committed actual CRIMES before. On THAT date, the ONE in question? He stole nothing. Had NOTHING in his hands, no one is even ALLEGING criminal behavior ON THAT DAY. So to ASSUME you still have the RIGHT to act AS law enforcement (like McMullet) did, and to detain, corral someone where it ULTIMATELY LED to him feeling threatened, grabbing for the gun, even punchin’ Lump-Lump in the face, what ENSUED is ON the McMichaels. Too many liberties being taken. In fact, if I was Prosecutor, I’d add IMPERSONATING a law enforcement officer to the list of crimes.
Good thing your pool temperature iq isn't being utilized in a court of law.
They were parked in the middle of the road for 3 minutes before homie came jogging up to inspect the shotgun.
I've seen video of this guy get arrested, I've seen him dealing with police when they are on a call for service, he had a hood mentality and was quick to escalate things.
He didn't want to go to jail and tried to fight his way out of ending up in the back of a cop car.
@@stankaus You seem to have missed the point that each and every uncorrelated *alleged* crime, or conviction of a crime, is initially treated and tried separately.
Whether or not he had these past interactions, even remotely close to how you described them (sourcelessly), unless the plaintiffs joined together and the crimes are quite similar, all of the claims you are making are irrelevant to _the day in question_ , whence the McMichaels followed an unarmed person jogging, with loaded weapons and confronted them, based upon their own suspicions, and against their county's, state's, and federal citizens' arrest policies and regulations.
So, I refuse to beg to differ on this matter with you. Instead, I will plainly state, with every bit of knowledge and fortitude that I have, that you are incorrect in your interpretation of how law and justice works in The United States of America.
Please make sure to reference *this exact* digital conversation if you are ever called for jury duty, because it will easily get you out of it. And I do not want you ever in charge of a person's freedom or convictions.
In addition, your use of "hood mentality" has already been, in court, proven discriminatory. Thus making you a racist, by legal definition. So piss off, you jackhole!
I am not a Legal authority, I have passed no BAR and these statements are not meant to be interpreted as legal advice of any kind. Please speak with proper legal council before making any law or legal decisions.
Ps: Please reread the last paragraph. Because *_that_* is the protection that your claims, based upon your opinion, and not evidence, are missing. When you are alleging criminal behavior without any personal experience, with, around, against, etc. the deceased, based upon *your* personal opinion of past events; without the above caveat, you could be held liable, depending on a person(s)'s actions; based upon your statements. So be careful there, buddy ol' pal.
And maybe read an actual judge's opinion vs their ruling(s) instead of whichever program told you that the past events occured, as you claim; to have watched via video recording, because, surprise surprise, I cannot find such information to watch myself. Neither Video nor Audio, the likes of which you have, as far as I can tell, claimed to have experienced.
Have a lovely day, Jack...hole.
@leigh
Place a "_" on *both* sides of a word (doesnt work if next to another symbol) to make the words italicized. What people use _air quotes_ for should actually be italics, as quotation marks are for titles and quotes only.
To *bold* place a "*" on both sides of the word(s) or statement(s).
These are the rules for RUclips comments' section(s).
@@stankaus follow up: jacuzzis are classified as pools, so even your insulting is incorrect.
And since, I am going to assume, you do not know the following is also a fact, from the inventor of IQ tests: "IQ is used to approximate one's ability to retain and learn new information *and not* (bold added by me) ones knowledge or comprehension of those facts, facets, and factoids..."
Mine is 136. This means, essentially, nothing, because in today's world, the need to retain facts is severely unnecessary compared to the past. For I am currently holding most of humanity's collective knowledge in my hand. Thusly, am I inherently more intelligent than you? No, not at all. IQ is your ability to learn not how much bullshit you can memorize. Do I believe I know more facts than you? Absolutely; without a doubt in my mind. Does this make me better than you? I don't think so, but based upon *your* assertions above, the answer would be: yes.
@@druid_zephyrus not even worth my time addressing the pedantic nature of the majority of your posting, if I meant jacuzzi temperature that's what I would have said, there's a reason we have specific words for things, average pool temp is between 78 and 82, right around the cut off for where the *army* used to say no thank you.
Also riddle me this, would you say that one's ability to learn and retain new information might lead to one developing the skills with which to comprehend such information?
What you're saying is just because you have a fast car doesn't mean you're speeding, what I'm saying is at least you have the capability to speed. Lazy comparison but I can't be assed. I don't care about you having a high iq, statistically speaking you're likely very depressed if you have a iq coming up on 140, not trying to throw that in your face or anything.
As far as the legal nature of the case let me ask you this, do you need to steal something for it to be a burglary? Would there not be reasonable and probable ground for suspicion of felonious activity based on the observed behavior of Arbery, lurking up to the building and checking to see if the cost was clear before entering and spending 3 minutes inside. When he noticed the neighbor across the street on the phone he takes off running not really leaving them time to assess the scene that he was leaving. Would it not be reasonable to assume that he was breaking some law based on his actions if you were observing? Then would it be reasonable to attempt to keep track of him while the police make their way there? If they were concerned for their safety would they not be allowed to bring means to defend themselves? When he ran at them from down the road the gun wasn't pointed at him, it was when he made it to the truck and came close enough to Travis to touch him that the first shot goes off.
I'm not claiming to know all the facts or have the legal history of citizens arrests on standby but you can't tell me this whole thing isn't getting polarized while the details get obfuscated for the sake of driving an agenda of division. I think the last thing they were expecting when they were sitting in that truck was for him to run up to them and try and take their gun because anyone with a brain knows trying to take a gun from someone who isn't trying to kill you is the fastest way to change that.
It took a sister to get the job done!!!!💪🏾✊🏾
Just like in nyc only officer getting charged cuz the da black
To everyone this offended this was Miss road I apologize to everyone have a good day
no zimmerman was ghetto hunting, trayvon has a right to stand his ground
these guys responded to a crime.
trayvon wasn't clearly trespassing like ahmaud
///!!!let's look past your racism and see what you are asking!!!\\\
these guys are fat and old, they aint chasing anyone, so they will bring their gun, and where they go, the guns go
if you are peeking corners, prowling, then take off running
someone might ask you what you are doing and if you don;t answer, you know you are caught, it's obvious what's up
so at that point you are fleeing a crime scene and want to charge at someone and take their guns, cause you didn't want to stop and answer for your actions, cause he didn;t want to get caught.
///!!!so your asking people to hide in their houses or drop their guns when a black guy flees a crime scene!!!\\\
AHMAUD KNEW HIS LIFE WASN'T IN DANGER UNTIL HE ATTACKED, THEY COULD HAVE SHOT HIM ANYTIME
SUPPOSEDLY THEY DRIVE RIGHT PAST HIM TO BLOCK HIM IN, you don;t need to block anything for a shotgun to work
WHY DID THEY STOP SHOOTING WHEN HE STOPPED ATTACKING
AHMAUD DIDN'T ATTACK IN SELF DEFENSE, HE GOT CAUGHT
@@ihatecrackhead you know the whole story right ?😂
Zimmerman wasn't charged with assault but he was clearly guilty of it since he gave chase after he was told not to
GuildBankLooter what neither one of them was armed, or gang members, they didn’t call the police on anybody else but Ahmaud Arbery because he was a young black man, didn’t call about anybody else
Right!!
That Zimmerman bullshit was kinda worse in a way yeah..Wish Trayvon's case woulda got the reaction of some groups as this one did.
Neighbor group chat turning into vigilante group with the AOK of law enforcement! Not so innocent, Ashley! That one needs to retire!
Hiding in that beautiful neighborhood is such ugliness!
COURTTV STOP WITH THAT RACIST ASHLEY, SHE IS TRYING TO HARD TO DEFEND
THE MC MICHAELS, WE WANT SOMEONE WHO IS UNBIASED. DON'T RUIN THIS SHOW
READ THE COMMENTS, BE FAIR AND UNBIASED. ASHLEY IS NOT!
yah u really sound unbiased
@@christianpervert525 so do you
@@christianpervert525 if you don't realize that she has already found them not guilty, you're not listening
We need all views. Just because she doesn't see what others see doesn't mean she's racist. I love Ashely. I think there is something she can learn from this case but there is something we all can learn from other perspectives.
@@ambermay6884 do you actually think she's going to learn something
But didn’t the home owner says he didn’t know them wow
Yes he did! obviously he's a liar too. Boy this rabbit hole goes deep, but it's a bunch of weasels in the tunnel no rabbits to be founded.
He said he know of them but dont know them he probably never use dude number I believe him but they hunted us black man down like a deer smh it's hard to not wanna kill them
His son, Travis was law enforcement in the USCG. So he was trained. You guys should bring me on. I am a former police officer.
B Tatum your the best Dam thing to Hit You tube .... You are all Facts....
Did you think the McMichaels did what they had to do and therefore innocent?
You know... I have watched some of your videos, and today as I have just discovered this comment... I will say that I deeply dislike black men that are like you. You speak of Travis being ex military (Coast Guard) as to give this lynching some type of reasonable excuse. These KKK members killed an innocent, unarmed young black man... and for some reason, we have black men like yourself that support these Clampett's. I just hope it's not your son next... because these white folks don't love you.
In 1970 three morons tried to stop me on a country road while riding my bicycle.
I was carrying a.357 mag S&W model 19 and a badge issued by the city.
Those three clowns made a big mistake.
Imagine how many innocent blk MN are sitting in a jail cell or have a felony record because of this bunch!!
Why don't blacks act like this when they are killing each other?? Because that race card don't work then. If you all are serious how about the lives of these young men, protest all the killings of them. This is why whites don't give a shit about the blacks protesting. Just like the race card they have used so much that no one believes it anymore. Good luck with that protest again, and again and again
@@mikemuncy9567 do you not know history and the fact that black men, women, and children have been brutalized by white people. I'm so serious, do you not know the history of America. What other race has to train their young boys and men how to act and respond around white people to ensure their safety. Speak with a soft low tone not your natural voice because someone may get intimidated. When pulled over for anything by a police officer, use that same tone and add yes sir no sir so they don't feel disrespected. All of this and more to ensure father, son, grandpa, nephew, brother, uncle, makes it home. Open your eyes, your son, my son, does not deserve to die for being inside a house under construction. If you think someone is up to something wrong, call the police
@Debra Winston he didn't steal anything
@@mikemuncy9567 sounds like you're basically saying white people don't care about black injustice. Do you even realize how prejudice you sound. To not care about people whom you see with your own eyes being brutalized is a shame. Just being on RUclips, how many wrongful deaths do you see. Are you really this oblivious. Everyone should be protesting the mistreatment of everyone. Just being a person, seeing stuff like this happen to anyone should be bothersome. You should be upset, why aren't you?
@@michaeljohnson9897 I don't give a crap. Where I live everyone has it rough. Blacks, whites, Asian everybody. Blacks always play the victims and the race card. Every body is tired of it. Faking hate crimes for attention. Blacks are always taking diversity about everything but they don't say shit about diversity when I comes to the military. Come on blacks pull the race card they are not enough blacks in the Army. You won't hear that cry. STFU.
The fact it took 74 days reveals truth of the matter! He’s less then HUMAN!
It would have been swept under the carpet but for social media.
Funny how Everyone in the comments has more sense then these lawyers and police
Venancio Silva you know what's funny as a smoker myself I know there is no way he is a "real " jogger if he's smoking weed like me.
Probably because everyone looks at things sensibly.
Eventhough Mamichle was retired and he was forced to retire he was striped of his authority to conduct investigations or make a citizens arrest. He had no authority whatsoever and the DA that involved him was lazy and unwilling to do his job.
Keeping an eye out for a neighbor is one thing, but to shoot and kill someone is another.
A 357 gun and a shotgun, my GOD, seems like they went to kill this man. They should have had a sign saying black don't have the freedom to jog . Bottom line they had not right to murder this young man. May God bless his family and may he rest in heaven in peace. I hope the killers get everything they deserve.