A Volkswagen ID.3 Driver Tries A Tesla For The First Time
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2022
- I've owned a Volkswagen ID.3 for 18 months now and I recently test drove a Tesla Model 3 Performance to see how they compare...
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Title of next video - "Why I swapped my ID-3 for a Teslar" !!
Haha. Probably
Well clearly he did since he said that the speed sign recognition was fixed 2 weeks later. Otherwise that’s a very long test drive!! 😂
Nailed it 😂
Well...would you look at that (he actually just uploaded that 😂😂😂) 😉
No surprise here though 🤷♂️
@@martinandreaskruse4446 thanks. Watching it now……
With respect to build quality: over time, Tesla has been improving build quality. When you showed the exterior of the car I saw chrome door handles, which identifies the car as a 2020 or earlier car. A newer Model 3 with the black door handles might have better build quality. I think most people are expecting the new Model 3 cars built in the factory in Germany to have excellent build quality (although there might be a learning period so the earliest cars might not be up to scratch).
The MIC model 3 are very good build quality winning awards in china so I expect the German one to be good too
My MYLR that I got in June 2022, I could not find anything that was missaligned or any flaws or odd gaps. The build quality is very very good. I have not missed my VW Tigron 2019 for even one day. The Y is sooo much nicer to drive and much much more fun.
Have you heard anything about when they will start building the Model 3 in Germany? I unfortunately haven't heard anything yet... Really wish that they could have started already...
The models built in China are the ones to own as their build quality is far superior to that of the American ones - it shouldnt be that way with all the automation but i guess the human touch stll counts for something...
Just try not to get an American build one. Shanghai has way better buildquality and Berlin will be on par too.
As the owner of a Model Y LR, I'd definitely recommend checking it out too. We looked at both, but the Y gave us so much more utility with very little performance hit. And yeah, the fact we get software updates seemingly weekly which generally fix or improve things is extremely valuable. Also, the Superchargers and simple home charging (which also probably applies to the ID3 too), Tesla mobile service, and abundance of other, knowledgeable owners make owning it a no-brainer.
Not sure about where you are, but in the US the Model 3 is offered in RWD at $47k vs. the MY LR starts at $66k now. I originally planned to go with a Model Y, but can't justify nearly $20k extra for a slightly larger vehicle. I'll grab a Model Y once they launch a RWD version in the US in the future or when prices come back down for them. When I test drove the two of them, I enjoyed driving the model 3 a lot more as well, but the MY is def more of a practical vehicle.
Even Elon Musk has stated multiple times that their vehicle prices are embarrassingly high right now.
LR model 3 and Y seem to generally sell for the same price in UK (Y is actually more cost-optimized, so it is indeed "newer" but also cheaper on a per feature basis). With 3LR, you might run into roadblocks shortly, sale is already suspended in US for rediculous demand/wait time - so don't wait or Tesla might make the 3/Y decision for you :-)
@@percurious defender
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I hope he drives it too! The only thing that we wish was better, is the sizeof the back window,. It is smaller than that in the M3.
I prefer driving the M3 because it is a bit smaller and is more nimble. That said- the lift back on the Y is nice and it is plenty fast enough, just depends on how important driving dynamics are to you over utility. I came from driving a Cayman S so utility has increased 10x with the M3 :)
Having driven the ID.4 as an EV shopper, I thought it was lovely. *Until I drove the Model Y LR.* The Tesla handles much better, and once you use that big screen it's game over. TECH + PERFORMANCE + RANGE = Tesla.
.. and supercharger network, for US at least... Europe much better w/ common CCS network helps
Once you drive a Tesla there is no going back! I bought one immediately after test drive, and so did my father after trying mine. It's one of those products that's just so good you just need it
The overall engineering also Tesla is miles ahead of any ev. And safety. Did you know that Teslas are the absolute safest cars on the street?
I like the Mach E and the Kia EV6 better. I like the model 3 but want a hatchback and just cant take the looks of the model y. It basically looks like a pregnant model 3.
@@jeffk464 You are right. It risks getting a ticket for defacing public property every time it takes to the road. The proportions just…don’t…work.
I had an ID3 and now have a RWD LFP Model 3. Zero regrets. Much better car. More practical as long as you aren’t carrying a fridge.
Other than battery life, range, performance, syle, interior, autonomous driving/autopilot and value the VW ID3 is better choice.
Well said 🤣
And tech in general 😅
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Everybody forgets safety.
Pat W ! 😂👍
I hated the sat nav in our id3 until I realised that once you set your destination, just ignore the main screen and watch the head up display and it’s unbeatable but the software in my sons model 3 is light years ahead of the id3. Volkswagen get your finger out
Does the id3 do trip/charge planning properly now? I heard initially it was very poor and routed to level2 slow chargers ignoring neighboring fast chargers, etc...
Tesla trip/charge routing is dead simple and accurate, though not always optimized (wish they'd auto-update the supercharger usage/free stall count on the map, you have to click it to refresh it I found... but the nav now DOES check in background and reroute if busy/full, apparently)
I don’t know as we are still on original software
this is a 2-3 year old Model 3 Performance, more recent examples have ditched the chrome trim around the windows and are much nicer inside
That's the fundamental difference between a Tesla and all other EVs on the market, and frankly, I think that's why they are so ahead of the game. When someone puts their foot down on the accelerator in a Tesla, the G-forces experienced makes everyone. EVERYONE. React with an "oh my god." You go back 5 years and every single first time sitting in a Tesla or first time driving a Tesla and you hit the acceleration and not a single person is not left speechless. Then you go ride in the other EVs, and while they may perform to an extent, it fails to encompass the speed felt. A Model 3 performance is by no means a cheap car, but it's effectively the upper end trim of a mass production model (inflation and supply chain issues affecting prices aside). For it to then wow people unconditionally, relative to all other models in the market, is what allows Tesla to "market" to people without spending any money on ads. Sure they have other, clever ways, of "marketing", but that statement: "oh my god" is alone enough to speak a thousand words, tell a thousand stories, and sell a thousand vehicles. Until legacy auto is able to provide that kind of a rush with their own models, I fail to see them "catching up" as "competition".
.. and the amazing thing to me as a driver, not just the acceleration, but the fine sensitive control both accel and regen.. even with the awesome power, you can be super-smooth and gentle, as long as your foot fine-motor control is good :) The regen is just about right- strong, but not too harsh; and does very nice job coming to smooth stop w/ hold mode, not jerky at all, as good as I can do manually. Driving down winding mountain curves is a blast, super control accel & decel, like stick shift engine braking but infinite speed low gear!
Other EVs have strong regen and varied acceleration, but I don't think any have done a better job mixing raw power and finesse that Tesla have done.
and the UI interaction/smoothness and features, and supercharging experience, should give a lot of other EV owners the same "oh my god" reaction (like vs VW's /Hyundai slow screen and horrible trip planning.)
@@cgamiga the irony is that Ford and GM likely do have app teams that make apps for Android and iOS and they have the knowledge and know how in satisfying customers at the phone level. They just have to then take that knowledge and apply it to the vehicle with the understanding that you're not building a car, but a smartphone on wheels. The moment they can fully abandon the idea of a car and embrace the idea of a smart phone, then I think they'll be able to succeed. Essentially, legacy car makers need to do the same thing Jobs did with the first iPhone. Be different. People who want EVs don't want a car. They are sick of cars. They want a platform that can grow to suit the needs of a rapidly changing world. That's why sales in China for LICE makers are doing poorly even for their EV models, because they're still building only cars. They're not getting it.
Perfect summation!
@@channelforadventures8583 yup, though Tesla makes darn good and fun and fast cars, too :) but ugh, the software on some others... VW seems to lag (and plan!) horribly... my parents still figuring out Ford UI and android auto too...
Tesla simple PC_like "always-map home page/desktop" w/ simple "car/start menu" and app/taskbar tray,works MUCH better as a UI metaphor than all these mismash of modal and overlapping windows/tiles/menus etc. Just watch Sandy Munro try to find the Home & Nav buttons on VW id4... or my parents trying to find map button on MachE.. !
@@cgamiga what's hilarious is that apparently Electrify America is owned by VW and said chargers don't seamlessly talk to VW EVs either.
Rear visibility is never an issue as you can open a giant view of the rear camera (and side cameras) on the center screen, and it's much better visibility than physically looking back. Also don't forget the voice commands! They're very convenient and people always forget about them.
Yep but then you can't use the screen for anything else like Navigation and it's way easier to glance up at the mirror every so often to get an idea of what is around you. I wish the FSD visualization was better for cars behind you but you can't rely on that. Maybe Tesla could display the rear view without taking over the right side (in US) of the screen.
You're backing up, your concentration should be about that task, not fiddling with the navigation...
@@sylvaing1 you don't fiddle with anything, the backup camera pops up automatically when in reverse
I drive with the rear camera on in my Teslas all the time - I like having the rear visibility. But it is better in the X than the 3 or Y having the drivers display screen as a second screen with the Nav open.
Bought our first Tesla 10 years ago and we're still in love.....
Love the videos mate, very informative keep them coming!
This is a pre-2021 model. Lots of changes to the interior since then, as well as some exterior. Generally the build quality has improved much, since they started to be shipped in from Shanghai instead of Fremont.
I work with the ID.4 daily, servicing them. Nice machines, really like the AWD version with the additional front electric motor. We don't have the ID.3 in the states.
I'm on the fence with the aesthetics of the Tesla, but I really appreciate that you can "uncork" the electric drive a bit and enjoy a satisfying sprint now and again.
I must agree, the sluggishness of the infotainment screen is the Achilles' Heel of the VW. Looking forward to getting that bit sorted.
Good review. I just rented a 2021 Model Y with the latest software and the variable speed limit works quite well. Also the autopilot keeps slightly to the left off centre but moves to the right off centre when passing a truck which is quite impressive. It also doesn't slam the brakes when someone crosses from the left lane across my lane to the right fast lane. That one really impressed me over my Mercedes's Distronic (autopilot) system. Would I buy a Model Y as my next car. YES!!!
Now that’s you called Tesla! That’s the reason why I got my 2022 Model Y Performance last July! It’s too fast! I tell you! I’m enjoying my Model Y performance! I recommend everyone to have a test drive in a nearby Tesla Centers nearest you. The highly advanced technology in driving plus the AI crash Technology is mind blowing for me because my MYP predicted a crash infront of me in Highway 101 here in Monterey California. The advance and supersonic sensor is so responsive that it can detect an off cars from the highway lanes. I prefer Tesla from the makers of Space rockets 🚀 and where intelligent and best engineers, AI scientists and employees are working right now!
If budget is a problem you might want to look at the standard model 3 which still has a decent range and is plenty fast enough. Also bear in mind that has an LFP battery so you can continuously charge it to 100% without issue. Build quality has improved since the model you tested, slightly, with a better center console and no more piano black.
I have a brand new M3 RWD, LFP collected March 22 . My only gripe is the driving position. Right leg and ankle aches after an hour of driving. It’s bad enough that I’m going to get rid of the car.
Not true about 100% all the time with no extra degradation. Tesla WANTS you to charge to 100% so BMS can be properly calibrated. LFP cells have a very low slope voltage curve and unless you regularly charge to 100% the BMS will lose ability to determine correct current range. Charging to 100% is still less than optimal for battery health as compared to 80%.
Looks like your car might be on some older firmware as they just enabled variable speed limit and motorway temp sign detection in the latest update. It's pretty flawed, but it's a start.
Since I got my car in 2019 the whole screen has had a design change 3 times. Feels like a new car each time. Personally I like this, keeps things fresh, but some people may not. :)
For the auto lane change, though we get a very limited version of Autopilot here in the UK, it is amazing for reducing fatigue on long journeys! By EU regulations, it must make 3 indicator blinks before moving over and move at x lateral rate, etc. etc. - Really cripples what we get compared to the US unfortunately.
If Autopilot was registered as proper level 3, EU regulation wouldn't mind and let it drive... But Tesla did not, and won't take liability yet
At 5:31 we can see the 30 sign for a branching road, it's on the visualisation screen and then applied instead of the 40... So I suspect it wasn't on such an old firmware. Still a large area for improvement.
At 10:02 it doesn't see the two signs at all, so it's likely coming from the offline navigation data
@@seb. Because Level 3 is such a weird "level", since you can't really relax, as you need to be ready to take over, but it should be so good, thst you don't need to keep your hands on the wheel. Kinda defeats that level altogether.
What it smells of though, is European automanufacturers' anti-Tesla lobbying at play. seeing how Mercedes brags about level 3, that is limited to 60 km/h at specific highways, where you're allowed to drive between 110km/h to Autobahn speeds ("unlimited"), meaning it's useless unless used specifically in rush-hour, where the Tesla performs as well or better than the Mercedes anyway... 🤷♂️🙄
@@martinandreaskruse4446 even at 60kph you can't confuse level 2 and 3.
2 can disengage at any time, in case of accident it's always on the driver.
3 will provide heads up notice, in case of accident liability is on the carmaker.
Big differences!
In the US, the best part of the Tesla is actually the Super Charger network.
My model 3 LR always sees the speed limit signs here in America so I think you were right about the speed limit signs not being seen sometimes because UK signs look different.
Good comparison from a ID.3 owner, thanks. 5:01 Creep mode doesn't have an auto hold, but if you are at a stop light and press firmly on the brake you should see a H signifying "hold mode" and you can take your foot off of the brake. The Performance does have thinner tires (20") so your ride is a bit stiffer. The Long Range non performance is smoother. And yes, the acceleration will take your breath away - even after 4 years of driving mine it puts a smile on my face every time. 11:01 it is nice how Tesla has continued to update the car over time.
To turn off the indicator, you can flick it the same way you pressed it in the start. That stops the risk of then indicating the other way.
I believe you guys in the UK call the front boot a "froot". Also, the window switches and turn stalks come from the Mercedes parts bin. Great comparison video!
Robert Llewelyn calls it a "froot". I think the rest of us stick with "frunk" 🤷🏻♂
I think the Model S and Model X stuff came from Mercedes originally, but Tesla designed their own stalks and switches for the Model 3 and Y, and now the Model S and X too. Or am I wrong?
Interesting to see someone in the UK experiencing the Tesla Model 3. Some of the things you mentioned (like speed limit recognition) have been completely resolved here in the United States. I think Tesla - now becoming a large global company - will need to increase their software teams to dedicate more resources to each country. It seems the US is ground zero for all of Tesla's latest features. For instance, FSD beta is starting to get pretty good here in the United States - but there have certainly been growing pains from the first iteration. i imagine the same will be true as it is rolled out to new countries.
Oh man, how I could dream about that.
In the UK the speed limit sign recognition regularly detects phantom signs or ones on incorrect roads. For example, you'll be on a 50mph road but a road that turns off yours will have a 30mph sign on it, this sign is at a near 90 degree angle to the car but as it passes it detects it and limits Autosteer down to the 'speed limit'.
On motorways, last month they enabled the ability to read temporary road work signs on motorways as well as average speed limit signs on overhead signs which are on digital displays and can be changed. However... The car will set the speed limit back to 70 if it doesn't see a new sign after x number of seconds, resulting it changing to say 40 for road works, then changing back to 70 after a few seconds.
In the UK the functionality of everything is pretty much crippled. The FSD package basically sums up to 'Confirmation-required automatic lane changes on specific roads' - Can't turn off confirmation, still have to confirm green lights, due to regulations it has a g-force limit which prevents it from taking even mediocre turns at speed, Smart Summon is limited to moving 20 meters per session and your phone must be within Bluetooth range to use it (You usually end up blocking its path as a result, if it doesn't hit the distance limit before it managed to reverse out of a parking bay), and I suppose to top it off, Navigate on Autopilot and automatic lane changes can only be used on 'Limited access' roads such as motorways, can't be used on any other multi-lane road.
As much as I love my car, it's a little disheartening when I see the UK release notes for an update, then we get the same version in the UK and the release notes are:
- Cold weather improvements
...And that's it. :)
@@VoxelLoop That is awful... We have SOME looming regulation hovering over Tesla's features here, but nothing like that. It sounds like UK regulatory authorities are exhaustively aggressive. I don't know or understand the atmosphere around loosening regulations in the UK, so I can't speak to that... but I will say... the current climate in the U.S. (while prone to a lot of lawsuits... the U.S. is a very lawsuit-happy country) allows for innovation to prosper. I have experienced some edge cases with FSD, but I love that I can just submit the video to Tesla and they can run it through their AI simulations. I hope Tesla is - at least - running shadow simulations on cars in the UK. I know they do this in the U.S. to prep next-gen software releases without putting it into the real world. I guess the only issue is that you don't really know how well something works in the real world until a real human experiences it. I hope the UK will loosen up a little bit. On another note, I hope all countries start creating autonomous lanes on highways --- much like the autobahn. I can only imagine -- the speed limit could be... only limited by the limits of the vehicle.
@@VoxelLoop I can definitely agree that the USA speed limit recognition is rock-solid. I have been in the FSD Beta since November 2021, and prior to the beta it was really hit and miss. They have changed a few things with the car's control in relation to speed limits. Previously, if you were going 45mph and you passed a 35mph, it would slow down drastically.
These days it will slow down gradually and comfortably, which is too slow for my tastes. Many police officers like to sit just outside such a speed change, handing out fines.
@@tstan6827 I agree. I'm hoping they teach them to start slowing down at the "reduced speed ahead" sign.
@@tstan6827 Sure but for those of us who aren't using the beta, AutoPilot still has issues with speed limit signs. I think there is a new AP release that is rolling out that is supposed to read the signs and integrate that into the navigation data they have on the car. I don't have that version yet, sadly. Can't wait for the beta to go live.
Glad you liked it. Small note on build quality. That’s a pre refresh p3d it looks like 2018-2019. Those were notoriously rough builds years. Still good but definitely has some issues. Manufactured has matured quite a bit. Not perfect but definitely matured in todays Builds.
"Those were"... American built.
Chinese and German cars get glowing reviews.
I’m getting the standard range base model. With the LFP battery you can charge to 100% every time and get the mileage you would with the long range at 80%.
Congratulations on possibly switching to model three from ID3 like we did. The only thing I would tell you about the navigation system is that it will try to maximize your charging stops to give you as few as possible to complete a journey. We prefer to stop much more often instead. We still use the navigation but we tell at our next stop for charging instead of planning the whole route in one go.
Love how it throws u back in the seat. 😆
My Tesla Model 3 reads UK speed limit signs like your ID.3, even on the square boards and has done for months (Got mine in April 2022) and the auto-lane change does work beautifully
Speed limit signs in my Tesla have got better this last 2 weeks. Prior to this it was awful, now it is OK, bit good but a massive improvement.
In terms of wanting to see more behind press the lens icon and you see the back and side cameras views on the screen also automatically comes on when you're reversing
Tesla sets the bar on safety as well as acceleration. Not surprised you are surprised. ;)
A recent over the air update enabled Tesla model 3/y in Europe to read speed signs via the car's cameras I believe. This feature has been active in USA cars for a while and works great. Perhaps the car you drove had not received the software update.
Good video! Subbed
Tesla have just enabled reading speed limit signs in the UK. So far it seems to work quite well
We took delivery of our 2022 M3LR and didn't have any quality issues!
Brilliant video; I’m subscribing - I’d be interested what you think of the BMW i4
You can cancel the indicators by using it the same direction as you originally indicated. My last BMW had the same system.
The normal regen is much better than the low that you had it set to.
Recent update they seem to have improved the indicators, either direction now cancels it
@@cgamiga I’ve had my Model 3 for almost 3 years and it’s always worked in either direction.
The benefit of cancelling by going the same direction is that you don’t end up alternating your indicators.
@@SirHackaL0t. y I hated the flip-flop game :) It seems to be smarter now , at least w/ half tap either way, just cancels and doesn't do other direction.. or maybe just me
1:09 pretty much sums up the experience . 🤣
It made me order by the end of the test drive .
Intetesring comparison between the two cars and learned somethings about tesla as well
Yes! Very keen to know what do folks in the UK call that space in the front? Froot?!!
9:57 there you have it - the standard round 40 speed limit sign… So the square signs is not the only problem 🤣
My OCD wants that rear driver's side seat belt adjusted to rest flat on the seat back!
To turn off the Indikator you do not have to flik it in the opposit direktion. You can simply klick in the same direktion agan.
So you also prevent to falsly turn it on in the wrong direction.
Have to many issues over the last 3 years with my id3 . Last one the entire console was replaced. 3 Tyres blow out as well and now I'm hearing there is a recall. Just going to get a telsa
8:16 Uhh, to end the signaling, u r supposed to engage the signal stock the same direction rather than the opposite direction. Engaging the opposite direction will inevitably signal the opposite side (instead of cancelling the existing signal)
I hired a model 3 on the Turo app, 69 plate, and my first couple of drives I did the wrong direction thing with the indicators. So much better when I accidently went the right way which figured it out for me. Also the car did recognise all road signs including roadwork lower limits. IMO Tesla is years ahead of the so called 'competition' - free charging at the hotel I stayed in too was a bonus, which applied to any EV for residents... lovely car, my 4 day trip up to and around North Yorkshire was brilliant. I will definately buy a Tesla for my next purchase.
Took me a while to figure your driving round my home city lol
1:18 - yep, there it is, the good ol' Tesla Smile. Nice.
An American watching you drive on the other side of the road gives me anxiety
You have the constant rear and side camera you can use anytime. Even when navigating it’s a single tap to switch. Unless driving to new location everytime, do people always have nav on?
I do wish we have access to front camera as well(outside dashcam and sentry)
Did you try out the stereo on high levels. It’s as impressive as the acceleration as the stock stereo.
Yes. Tesla sound system is amazingly good.
Yup. Best sound system in my house: clean, powerful, and the immersion mode is amazingly good.
I sit and relax in my car to tunes, seriously... seat heaters... just missing a massage function :)
@@cgamiga and you don’t have to worry about running the engine to avoid draining the battery 👍
As you’ve never driven one before you wouldn’t have seen the camera icon to enable you to fill the screen with the rear view if you want to see more.
I tried the acceleration on a 2022 Plaid and I was literally in shock thinking how is this possible. The only way to describe it is that it’s pleasantly violent.
Until 2022, Performance Model 3 was slightly lower than long range model 3 and performance model 3 has slightly stiffer springs. However sometime in 2022 Tesla altered the build so performance model 3 has same suspension setup as long-range. The performance model y is still lower (just 0.5" about) than long range model y and has slightly stiffer springs. The performance cars also have larger wheels and lower profile tires.
I rented a Model 3 and loved it, but am in an older Model S now. You should check out the S some time just for another comparison. Great cars all around.
We just traded in our 3 for an S. Let me tell you, the S is next level.
Owned a Tesla Model S from 2014 now 125,000 UK later, incredible car, amazing customer support, staggering charge network / sat nav. Have ordered Roadster and Plaid S courtesy of Tesla shares (thank you Elon my retirement appreciated) Whats not to like..........Tesla for me still love my "classic" S.
The latest software makes a big difference with thy speed limit spotting or so I have found
Alex, you are looking like this is a fitness channel! I imagine that is what you have been working on this time away?
You can change map setting on the tesla :-) And you have self driving witch is amazing...
Voice command is easy, and save time touching the screen. You can tell it to open glove box and it will do, also the front 'fruit' or the boot.
You need to try one of the Plaids, either the Model S or Model X. It's a whole different world of violent acceleration!!!
The Plaids haven’t arrived in Europe yet.
Also if you want Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in the Tesla, there are some aftermarket options. I have a 9" Hansshow Linux console which sit behind the steering wheel. I was considering changing my steering wheel to a Yoke for easier access but I found I did not need it. There is also an open source project which uses two raspberry pi mini computers that bring both options to the big center screen in the Tesla cars. I'll be setting that up soon myself. There are rumors that Tesla might add an Apple Music app to the car...but I take that with a grain of salt.
Auto lane change needs the indicators pushed fully. Speed limit sign reading is not available on freeways in some countries.
I am willing to bet you will get a Tesla, probably the Model Y, because it has the hatch back option and a lot more space, not that the Model 3 doesn't have a lot of space. It has tons of space, it is just limited by the silly boot. If the Model 3 was a hatch back it would be the perfect hatchback in my opinion. BTW, the speed limit software update has fixed that problem with reading speed signs of all shapes and sizes, fixed or temporary. I have it on my Tesla Model 3 for a little over a month and it works perfectly now (UK). It was an odd thing to leave off the Tesla, considering my previous dumb vehicle of 10 years had it working perfectly. In some of your video clips on the motorway when you said the auto-lane changing wasn't working, that was because you were on a road that didn't support the lane changing option, that is when the double blue lines appear on either side of the car. It only works when there is a single blue line in the middle of the lane. That is when you are on a motorway like the M25, M3 etc. On A roads it doesn't work or shouldn't. There is a difference. The software package in the Tesla is by far the main thing that drew me to buying a Tesla. It works all the time, is intuitive, and makes the car what it is. Combined with the excellent mobile app, it is a brilliant. That is the key difference between a Tesla and any other car (EV or ICE). Oh! and the availability of fast super charging. Those three things make it the right choice!
To have the tesla do lane changes automatically in FSD mode, you need to have a destination set in the navigation system
Would you say the batteries, drivetrain and BMS in the ID.3 is of the same quality than in a Tesla?
It's called the Froot in the uk - front boot H2H ;-)
I have an e-208 (warm at best). Is it worth the extra few hundred a month though? Day to day you put your foot down once or twice a drive pulling off next to some knob.
He‘s right about the hatchback. They are just very popular in Europe. Would love a Tesla Cyber Golf.
So far the non-existing hatchback on the M3 is the dealbreaker for me. MY is too fat looking. It was "hate at first sight".
really helps because i do that drive a12
Well done, very fair comparison. I've driven most of the comparable EV's appart from the ID3. I'm a performance car and tech guy and the VW software has been a poor point from the start so it was never a consideration. I love the performance of a Tesla and how it drives. The tech is fantastic and the voice control is the best I've tried. The constant updates will keep the car fresh for many years and they are one day an update away from self driving on city streets. Others you be lucky to get the maps updated. Second to the Tesla I would put the Ev6 feels sporty, good performance but hasn't got the same level of tech.
Is there a vibration in the door when you are at high speed
Great Vid, interesting and beautiful route, appreciate your comp. US=Frunk. UK=Froot (tongue in cheek).
Cheers from San Diego
the problem with the speed limit recognition is a patent problem tesla cant use camera sign recognition because of it. It mostly have to use the google maps data.
Rear visibility? You can use the cameras
Just buy it, I have the M3P for a year now and love it, I have owned many more expensive cars and this one beats them all.
Model 3 P is a sports car, ID3 is family sedan...
Notice that the names of accelleration modes are different. You have Chill and Sport, while I have Chill and Standard. I guess it is a performance thing?
If you had FSD on that car, you would see an amazing upgrade from that regular screen to the FSD screen, especially in town. My wife saying it looks like crayons had drawn all over. You should look up what we see here in the US.
It has FSD, that’s why it does auto lane changes and navigate on autopilot.
It has FSD, that’s why it does auto lane changes and navigate on autopilot.
@@frangalarza You can do auto lane change with advanced auto pilot. You don’t have to have FSD for that.
Was car shopping a while ago, no EVs were on the list. Friend encouraged me to test a Model 3. Nothing to lose, I thought, so booked a drive in a Performance. Zero intention of following through, but was bored so what the hell. Got into the car. What the hell is this screen? (Started driving out of the lot.) Why is there no speedo in front of me? (Turning out to main road.) Dunno, seems too bare. (Arrive at front of red lights.) Feels like a bizarre novelty, not a car. (Light turns green). Okay, let's push this thing then and see wha... F%&@#£%#@!!!!!!! OH MY GOD! Order placed 30 mins later, and 18 fantastic months with the car later, couldn't be happier.
In a nutshell. In any EV, if the software isn't top-end, build quality is irrelevant. Full stop.
And Tesla's software is on a whole different level than everyone else's.
Just compare Tesla to Apple but with wheels...simple answer.
Just got my id3 tour pro 77kw delivered after 10 months of waiting and have always said VW could have done better interior wise especially on the Tour pro as it costs £43000 and screen could have been bigger plus a sub woofer too,and just put vegan leather at least but we all know they want diesel gate money back right.
Don't forget they moved the price up to slow down the demand, which is insane (I mean the demand).
I have a family and need a minivan. The first affordable minivan to market with reasonable range will be mine, no matter the brand.
When in creep mode, when you stop press the brake and you’ll go on hold.
I am currently renting a model 3 and my biggest gripes is the bad navigation (no alternative route options such as Shortest/Fastest/Most efficient; no avoiding highways; not taking other charging operators into account on automatic route planning…), phantom braking, no speed limiter, wrong speed signs, cannot put in the cruise when standing still or in low speeds in most situations (unless you are on a marked road with good street markings) and a few mir other things. This makes the car not an option for me.
It’s scary fast!
You probably don’t have an ID3 Max with the Dynamic Chasis Control and TravelAssist? It’s far better in normal roads and you can stiffen it up on the Sport-mode. It has very good Matrix-lights and working automatic wipers. And the TravelAssist works very well, no complaints there. It’s also quieter. For commuting ID3 is a better choice.
I wish there was a heads up display for the Telsa and an option to turn the tablet off. I just want the basic info for driving. I spend all day in front of screens in the office. I don't want it on all the time in the car. I don't think these screens are safe, you should have your eyes on the road.
welcome to the real technology
Recently, the speed limit signs in the USA are messed up too. One of my drives it recognizes a 75mph sign as 35mph.
I really do like the model 3 but one of the biggest reasons why I haven't brought one. The car isn't cheap and he offers no ambient lighting no Sunroof or HUD, no power sliding rear shade when the Ionic 6 arrives it will offer all those things plus some for a cheaper price and it's expecting to have the same range or more than a model 3 or Y.
You said at least 4 times "I'm a tech guy." It seems like a no-brainer to buy the Tesla, even at the higher payment. Unless it is going to cause you issue paying your other bills, just spend the extra money. Look at your budget and your "unnecessary expenditures," considering what you actually need to spend. Hopefully you can get a good trade-in value for your VW.
You don’t need navigation assistance but many people prefer to have it. Same with CarPlay.
You need fsd to get speed sign recognition in teslas
Latest software update has changed the car's ability to pick up speed signs in the UK
Tesla hardware (car, superchargers) and software are FAR BEYOND everyone else, especially gas cars. Driving one for the first time is an eye opener. I regard my Tesla higher than some of my family members, it's like a second child. I love both my Model 3 and Model Y !!
I would still chose only a base Tesla for it’s LFP value proposition and charging simplicity, but with the sharing of superchargers, and assuming the others survive, I’m not so sure about it still being the best of the best in a couple of years time.
The extra range from the LR is quite useful.
One issue with charging to 100% with the LFP is the lack of regen so your brakes will get more wear and tear.
@@SirHackaL0t. my regen is perfectly good @100% in cold weather.
It’s been reduced because of the phantom braking issues that NHTSA has with Tesla.
@@davidpearn5925 How does your car regen at 100%? Where is it putting the extra energy if the battery is full? Do you see a dotted line on the left side of your power meter at 100% or is it solid? Mine has limited regen until it gets to ~85% as it can’t add the energy back to the battery in large amounts in the same way that charging slows at higher states of charge.
@@SirHackaL0t. commonly it’s into the buffer of around 3-5 kWh - ie above the net (useable) capacity.
@@davidpearn5925 Even if it can go higher the real problem is that you can’t just push 70kW/h into a full battery. A full battery can only be trickle charged regardless of where that energy is coming from.
And... there is that Tesla smile! :D
This is definitely older than an id3…. I’d guess 2019/20. The very late 2021 onward is far superior with lots of options which are now standard. Even the LFP Battery pack is superior to the VW. The overall package even on the Standard model seems way ahead still over the id3. Catching up still to do.
Put it back in Chill Mode before I spend $70,000. (*5 min. later) I think I need this.